15/01/2018 The One Show

Hello, and Welcome to The One Show,

with Matt Baker...

And Angela Scanlon.

Today is Blue Monday - some say

the most miserable day of the year.

Well, not this year it's not.

Who could watch this and not feel

an irrational surge of happiness?

This is good, look at this! Magical

stuff!

Oh, yes!

This is what happens when pet cats

watch Big Cats on BBC One.

Plenty more from them later.

And topical comedian

Matt Forde's here.

What's it like when you see things

like Spitting Image, or

impersonation is on TV, they have

picked up the mannerisms what...

He'll be putting his spin on 2018.

Our sofa guests tonight

from Silent Witness

are are already corpsing -

which is appropriate!

It's Emilia Fox and Liz Carr!

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Louw to you both. -- hello to you

both.

Welcome back.

Has Blue Monday got the best of you?

I don't agree with that, it's more

gloom January or early February? --

or Luke February. I think by the end

of March...

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The most exciting thing for you

today?

I've come here!

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The green couch is a bit of a lift.

We are not going to disappoint!

We are going to catch up with One

Show viewers...

Let's start by catching up

with a group of One Show viewers

who we turn to when we need

new technology tested

and no-nonsense questions asked.

So far, they've tackled smart tech,

online security and electric

cars on your behalf.

Now, they're entering the world

of crypto-currencies.

So have we pushed them

too far this time?

You can't physically touch Bitcoin.

Does this thing actually exist?

It's

not actually money.

The One Show

viewers know next to nothing about

Bitcoin, so we set them a challenge,

to see if they can make it big in

the Bitcoin world.

That an ordinary

cash machine, that's not it.

Their

first task is to get their hands on

some. Frank and Annie are at one of

the few Bitcoin ATMs.

I've got to

get this done!

As Bitcoin only this

online, they have to use a

smartphone to receive their currency

digitally. -- Bitcoin only exists

online.

Dunnett!

We can put the

money in a now -- done it.

Yes, I've

done that.

They call for back-up.

You just need to get up this code,

which looks like this.

Insert that.

And again!

The exchange rate is a

whopping £13,500 to one Bitcoin.

Where are we going now?

I don't

no...

Lets go and have a coffee!

Bitcoin at the ready. They are keen

to have a go as spending it.

Do you

take Bitcoins, love? Do you take

them in payment? Is it like

contactless? Do you except Bitcoin?

Most Bitcoin transactions occur

online, but they find one of only

three places on the High Street in

Leeds which take it. Meal finished,

it's time to settle the bill.

I have

generated the receipt in pounds. It

will automatically convert it into

Bitcoin.

It incurs a charge. A hefty

transaction fee adds another £13 45

to their bill.

It was virtually

double what was on the menu.

Absolutely stupid, in my eyes.

I'll

let you into a sequel, I will never

Bitcoin ever again!

-- a secret.

Spending Bitcoin comes at a cost,

but what about investing it?

but what about investing it? Linda

and Dave are meeting and investment

director and Bitcoin sceptic.

This

is a potential get rich quick

scheme, in all fairness, it's worked

incredibly well. It is not an

investment, for me. What happens if

it goes wrong? Can I afford to lose

the money, permanently? You are not

compensated by the mine and services

compensation scheme. What's gone is

gone.

In the spirit of our is --

experiment, they take the risk. With

such little regulation, you could be

at risk of identity fraud. Dave and

Linda are using a reputable website.

It's going to go up, and we are

going to make money, this is what we

hope!

The key to making money from

any investment is timing.

The price

of the

of the coin -- Bitcoin has

plummeted.

It can go up or down by

thousands.

That is what your £40 is

now worth. £31 57.

Groups!

It's time

to cash out. In the months since

they have bought their Bitcoin, it

has dropped to ten point £5,000.

Dave and Linda's at Gwent website

doesn't pay out in sterling, they

end up with 27 euros.

It is easy to

put the money in, but getting it out

has proved mega problems.

After

fees, Frank and Annie have just £17.

We have lost half of the money.

Nora

has been stung with more charges.

They have taken someone money out of

my account.

Not a very good

investment, as far as I'm concerned.

Banks, team.

-- thanks.

Gavin Brown is here -

a bitcoin expert and Senior Lecturer

in Financial Economics

at Manchester Metropolitan

University.

And you have invested some of your

own money in Bitcoin. As we saw from

the video, is not great for

day-to-day, Bitcoin.

So, apart from drug dealers

and other shady types,

is there any reason for anybody

to actually use bitcoin?

That's a good point. For small level

transactions on a day-to-day basis,

it cannot be efficient in terms of

time and transaction costs, it has a

lot of connotations with the

criminal element and that sort of

thing. But Bitcoin itself is a

fantastic innovation. It allows you

to do banking without the need for a

bank. You can move money around

instantly without any transaction

fees, regulatory oversight, tax

authority looking at the

transaction. For a lot of

institutions, it is an empowering

thing.

We saw in the film that the value

of bitcoin dropped.

What makes bitcoin go

up and down in value?

It is the volatility that gets the

headlines because it is such an

embryonic and Newmarket. It only

takes a small announcement by a

country or regulator to say

something negative or positive and

the price will fluctuate wildly.

I

couldn't cope with the stress!

This

is why you wouldn't have a lot of

your wealth in it, you wouldn't

sleep at night!

It was bad time for

our group, who invested at the wrong

time. As soon as the cameras stopped

rolling, the price shot up again.

Back in the game!

In a one-month

period since we filmed that, Bitcoin

lost a third of its value, but over

a 12 month period it has gone up

1300%, which is significant.

How is it made?

What mind, as they say?

There are

two choices, we could create a coin

here and now, make a new coin. You

can put it onto the market in one go

and hope that people started used it

as a transfer of value or release it

slowly, release it in blocks, one

blogs every ten minutes. -- blocks.

It is a Bitcoin inside a puzzle,

your job as a minor is to use a

computer to solve the puzzle to win

the Bitcoin. You may say, what's the

point in that? What that is for is

because computers cost money and

have to be powered, which also costs

money. When you get out of the

Bitcoin, you have spent a lot of

money getting it. That value

transfers to the coin itself, which

gives the currency some values the

point there's a lot of machinery

that generate this. It's huge.

People are starting to shout about

this. If Bitcoin was a country, it

uses more electricity in the last 12

months than 150 other countries

globally. From a green perspective,

very poor. The mining will see is

what the maximum number of points

are in circulation.

Liz, your

character's husband, Max, he is a

tech genius.

Just the name of it,

crypto-currency! That's really it.

Every time I want to get Max back in

the series, trying to find ways of

getting him back. I think that would

be a great crime that we could be

looking at, Bitcoin.

Happy to have

helped! Will be on the next series!

In tonight's episode,

your characters are juggling solving

a crime and keeping an eye

on Jack's love life.

Jack, I will ask Kelly some

questions and need you to do the

full number, computers, phones,

cameras... I will need to...

It will

my pleasure.

my pleasure.

And need asking price,

did he?

What?

Jack, not normally

this attentive -- didn't need asking

price. Cancel his toxicology

results. All normal except for very

high levels of...

She was planning

to terminate the pregnancy.

Yes.

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In general, the good news is, you

are back. Emilia Clarke your

character did make it, she went

through with the whole De Bock Eoin

go. You must have spent so many

months with your character saying,

is she alive?! -- each with the

whole De Bock. Not many people

thought it was a dream.

All this

past year I have had people saying,

is she coming back? She was left in

the box. It was a very serial,

dreamy sequence on the beach.

Did it

happen or didn't it?

People finally

got it, and now we are back.

I'm

relieved that we are back!

And the first two-parter of

the new series did not disappoint.

What can we look forward to tonight?

Following on from the personal story

of Nikki, she is still recovering

from the aftermath of Mexico. You

see a little bit about Jack and the

relationship that he has with the

detective on the case. And the crime

story is about the hacking of a

hospital database, and the

blackmailing of patients.

We often

get asked, how is it in George Weah

21 series? When we were doing this

NHS data hacking case, it was

happening in the news last year --

how has it endured. It is so

topical, that's part of it. These

stories are written months, even one

year in advance. We were doing it,

it was almost like somebody had

foreseen the future!

Strangely, the

last time you want, you were talking

about the fact that we might get to

see more your personal life. That's

going to be happening, too. Your

character is at the centre of one of

the can't coming episodes.

There is

an episode coming up, -- up and

coming episodes. It is a disability

hate crime that takes place in care

homes. We have always avoided

talking overtly about disability. I

will into a scene, we know I'm a

wheelchair user, but we've not

addressed that fact, I've never had

to confront it. But this time there

are crimes that are around disabled

people and Clarissa can't help but

get involved. There is a lot of

soul-searching, it is a painful

episode. She revisits her past, as

well.

On the flip side, we see

Mickey having a love interest, which

doesn't happen regularly! So will we

see Nikki.

Is that good? A lot of people hate

the love scene thing.

It is good

because the relationship she had

with Harry really meant something. I

get asked every series, I knew going

to have a relationship, but this

series you do see her with a smile

on her face and it helps with

getting through Mexico, moving on,

then we get back into Silent Witness

as we know it.

Is your love

interests have always died! A lot of

people want you to be with Jack as

well.

Yes, exactly. There have been

a few moments between us.

And where

do you sit, with the format of the

two parter, do you enjoy that?

Because there are now so many boxed

sets you can gorge on but now you

have the nation on tenterhooks until

the next episode, do you enjoy that?

I think it's a luxury. There are so

many series, the forerunner is

really things like CSI which is just

one hour, it is not much time but we

are allowed to tell stories in two

ours. We often think of them as

films.

Tuesday morning must be a

nightmare, do people badger you?

A

lot of them wait and watch it in one

go.

It is nice to be doing something

different from the box set thing

because you get satisfaction in the

Monday storytelling, and the fact it

is two hours you get really great

guest casts coming along because

they can get into the meat of their

characters. You get.

It to tell. We

haven't got long to wait until the

first of the two part coming in the

next couple of days but we are going

to move onto another love of yours

right now, c - cat owners.

They have long realised

that their pets have plenty

in common with their wild cousins.

But until the Big Cats

series started last week,

they might not have realised

exactly how much.

Here's Patrick.

Watching big cats on TV helps us

learn about their lives but we can

see similar behaviour is a little

closer to home.

closer to home. Just like their

fellow fierce felines, these

13-week-old kittens use their

excellent hearing and sight to lock

onto a target, closing... Before the

pounds. -- pounce.

Much like lions in the wild, play

fighting is all about learning. All

rules are off. Neck biting, head

locks, kick boxing are all fair

tactics. These behaviours would be

used to bring down prey in the wild,

but for these kittens it's about

figuring out how far one can push

the other.

the other. Cats will often follow up

a scrap with a clean. Up to a tenth

of their waking hours are spent

grooming but it's not just about

keeping their first in top

condition. Grooming helps to calm

each other and creates a communal

sent to show they are part of the

same gang. All cleaned up, there is

still much to explore. Climbing

isn't just fun, it helps keep their

claws sharp. Solitary cats can be

vulnerable to attack in the wild

which is why kittens instinctively

head for high lookout points. New

objects need to be explored,

ensuring their curious nature is

satisfied. Even if it means changing

the channel.

Cats instinctively know that Prodi

move away from them, and with

razor-sharp reactions and new toy

gives them chance to practice. One

giant leap for cat kind. Kittens

developed strong muscles, but by the

time they are fully grown that will

help them jump vertically 2.5 metres

from a standstill, which would be

used in the wild to capture an

escaping meal. A burst of activity

is usually followed by an out,

something that comes most naturally

to all cats. At this age, they will

sleep for more than 13 hours a day,

just like their wild cousins.

Dreaming of their adventures around

the house.

That's what we are like on the sofa

after the One Show.

Big Cats is back

on Thursday on BBC One.

C, we

mentioned you are cat lover and you

brought in some photos. You

introduced the nation to this lovely

feline.

This is cat Fraser.

I was

going to say, you've got a panther!

Named after Matt, and like Matt,

they don't have thumbs. It's a

lovely sofa, it was velvet, it is

now shreds. She is tiny, we have

three cats, all black. She is the

smallest and we are terrified of

her.

Matt Forde is here!

You're about to embark

on the fourth series of Unspun -

your topical political comedy chat

show on Dave.

Starting shortly.

What are your predictions for 2018?

I should say I am all for our

predictions. I take no

responsibility.

Shall we not do it

then?

Europe will continue to drive

the Tory party apart. I think Boris

Johnson specifically will continue

to misbehave. That's not a great

revelation. He will continue... It

is the self-promotion. Let me just

say no, no, no what, it is to be

here today. Watch him, next time

he's interviewed, always three

different things going in his head

at any one point. I want to say

about Jeremy Corbyn, no, no, no, the

BBC... My favourite has always been

the chocolate hob knob. Not

necessarily an exclusive. I think

Labour will continue to be torn

apart with Europe. Jeremy Corbyn has

walked the line but increasingly he

will become more pragmatic. You have

seen this with sucking Chris

Williamson who talked about council

tax. My big prediction for the year,

and I talked to a lot of MPs as you

know, this is a real exclusive,

there will be a general election

this year, guaranteed. It will be in

Russia. If you do fancy an outside

bet on a lad called Vlad Putin.

What

about Nigel Farage?

He could be

back. The current Ukip leader is in

trouble, just days after Nigel has

called for a second referendum. I

don't think there's any coincidence

in that. I have interviewed him

before, Nigel. It is fair to say he

will just throw grenades out there,

not literally, although let's see

how desperate he gets. I interviewed

him years ago and on climate change

he said this, "People talk about the

greenhouse effect. Have you seen a

greenhouse? I mean stuff actually

grows in there."

Oh dear!

I just

went, fair point.

One man who has

been accused of misjudging

situations and offending people,

Donald Trump. Is there any way you

can spin it to a positive in the way

only Matt Forde does.

Getting the

next series has been helped by

strong. A lot of people would say he

has kept some of his promises. He

pulled out of the Paris climate

change agreement which delighted

Nigel Farage. Apart from

contributing to perhaps economic

growth, so there are some positives.

His greatest achievement is the

sowing of confusion, he is almost

impossible to campaign against

because people never know by the way

where he stands. And I want to say,

it is the norm, it is an honour to

be on the top rated show on the BBC

at 7pm, it really is.

at 7pm, it really is.

I'm afraid we

are going to shut you up!

Thanks for joining us.

What sort of man refuses to pay

a ransom for his kidnapped

grandson even though he has,

as the film title has it,

All The Money In The World?

With the film starring

Christopher Plummer expected to do

well at the Baftas and Oscars,

Gyles has been delving

into the world of John Paul Getty.

Money is secondary. I like the

company of women, I like to think

I'm average.

John Paul Getty. By the

1960s, the richest person in the

world, the first privately made

billionaire. He grew a vast oil

empire and spawned a Dynasty still

renowned today, but he had a

reputation as a miser and a

womaniser, cohort, callous and

calculating. Unfortunately I cannot

interview him, he died in 1976 aged

83, but I knew a man who did

interview him.

interview him. I knew him well. Alan

Wicker. Deep in the BBC archives...

Is an extraordinary, electric

interview with the richest man on

earth, conducted at his man --

mansion in Surrey. At the time it

was like being invited to the Court

of a king.

Did you set out to become

the richest man in the world?

No, I

never had any interest. I was the

only child and I had to carry all

the business.

Alan wasn't just

interested in how Getty inherited an

oil empire and grew it into

something vast, he wanted to know

what made the man take.

There are

great many stories of your care with

money, for example you've installed

up a telephone box to prevent your

guests abusing your hospitality by

drunken calls.

My guests would think

that the benefit. It is daunting

when you have to put in a

long-distance call and charge your

host with it.

What came back was

measured, calculated, so cool that

seemed devoid of everything.

It does

seem you have been fairly ruthless

in your personal relationships. You

left your wives at the time of the

birth of your children to go back to

your business. Have you always put

business first?

Not any kind of

business but important business.

What would be important enough to

take you away?

Informed decisions

have to be quickly made. They always

say business before pleasure and

maybe there is too much of it in my

marriages.

How do you think your

relationship with other people would

change if by some catastrophe you

lost all your money?

I hope I would

have three or four friends laughed.

Getty ran his billion-dollar

business from his 72 room mansion.

Denise worked there in the 1970s,

counting the cash for one of his

many companies.

The own written rule

would have been you don't talk about

Mystic Getty's personal life. He was

a private man and I respected his

status. We would see him about the

Estates occasionally, particularly

when he went to visit his lion. We

used to have an office party every

year and one year he came to it, and

to an extent he was very friendly

with some of his employees, those

that were above me.

Eventually Alan

Wicker asked the question you have

to ask the richest man on earth,

does money make you happy?

Using to

be a melancholy man, Mr Getty, in

fact you often look so miserable

people must believe the money has

not brought you much happiness?

That

is the effect of responsibility.

Ever since my father died, I haven't

had the buoyant feeling I had

before.

Presumably you believe money

doesn't buy you happiness, what else

does it not buy?

It cannot buy you

health. Some of the best times I had

don't cost any money, down on the

beach on the surfboard, not spending

any money there.

Fascinating insight into

John Paul Getty, a decade before

the kidnap of his grandson.

Well, that's all we've got time for.

A big thanks to our guests.

You can see Emilia and Liz in Silent

Witness tonight at 9pm on BBC One.

And to Matt Forde,

who is back with Unspun

on Dave from January 28th.

Before we go, we were sorry to hear

of the sad death today of the

unforgettable Dolores O'Riordan. She

performed on the show with her band

last year, the Cranberries.

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