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with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones. Tonight we are joined by a couple we

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did not expect to be working together. After all, he was not that

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keen about her the last time he was on here. Lisa Riley? I have put her

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just above. I don't know, I think she might be our sort of possible

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comedy moment. Yeah, maybe!A sort of Ann Widdecombe thing. It is Craig

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Revel Horwood and possible comedy Sorry, that was a bit of a...

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proved them wrong! You get an absolutely fine now, like a house on

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fire. Absolutely! It is really good. Have you seen all the Brucie news in

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the paper? Please, he is leading entertainment in this country, do

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you think he would miss the opportunity of performing live in

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front of 4 million people just to son himself in Barbados? I don't

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think so. It did say that he might come back to his Strictly duties.

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really don't think so. I know he took one week off last year, but I

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cannot see him leaving. He is the trademark for the programme, isn't

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he? He is Strictly. He is the last of a dying breed, you know, he

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really is, full long variety entertainer. There you go. You both

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are still living the Strictly dream, and we will be revealing all later

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on. All very exciting! Shortly we will be getting the latest on the

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explosions in Boston, talking to Iwan Thomas, who is training for

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London marathon, and a former police officer, Martin Bayfield. The police

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used a whole array of techniques to track down perpetrators, and Marton

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has been investigating one of the latest forensic techniques.

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This trade in Stoke-on-Trent was the scene of a house fire that shocked

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the local community. When the fire brigade arrived they discovered a

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father and two children have escaped the blaze. Tragically, the mother

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to firefighters how he had saved his two children and battled the flames

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to rescue his wife Amanda from the loft bedroom, but it was to no

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avail, she had died in the blaze. But like the recent high profile

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Philpott case in which six children died, when the emergency services

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started to investigate the fire, certain things just did not stack

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up. The Fire Brigade went into the premises, and they realised her body

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was not in a natural position. She had been incapacitated in some way,

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and the fire had been tampered with. Tests showed that the blaze had not

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killed Amanda. She was already dead when the fire began. This left

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police with a number of questions, how and when had she died?

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Throughout the day, more than a dozen text messages were sent from

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her phone, the last one at 7:48pm in the evening. When family members

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read the messages, they thought something was wrong. The text did

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not look like they had been written by Amanda. Could they give a clue as

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to what had happened that day? Detectives began to question

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Christopher's story. Could it be possible that he had murdered his

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own wife and used her mobile phone to send text messages to cover his

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tracks? Police needed expert help. So they came to linguistics

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specialist Dr Tim Grant. When he is not teaching, he works with police

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forces from all over the UK. He analyses the use of language and

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written documents, everything from e-mails to letters to group who

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wrote them. -- prove. Staffordshire police asked him to look at the text

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sent from the phone. Could he establish who had written them?

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first thing you need to do is establish what is consistent in each

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of the text in styles, and you need a large collection of messages for

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each of them. For Amanda, her phone was destroyed in the fire, so the

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police had to collect those messages from friends and work colleagues and

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family members, and they collected a set of 200 messages. We had a

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similar set of 200 text messages from Christopher Berks. Tim got to

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work scrutinising the text in styles used by Christopher and Amanda. So

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we have got some examples of the disputed text messages that

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Christopher claims Amanda sent. What is it about them that leads out to

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you? We have got this first message, sent at about one o'clock. This

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message says, not sure yet, I am just talking with Chris. We have the

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spelling which is typical of Christopher's style. And we have the

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spelling of with, which is also a Christopher style beach that only he

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uses. So that was at one o'clock. We then roll on, the clock is ticking,

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there is another text. This spelling is definitely a Christopher feature,

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he only spells it that way. analysed more texts sent from

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Amanda's bone that day. He concluded that Christopher probably wrote all

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of them. Was there a time where suddenly they started to appear?

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Yes, after 12:39pm there are no messages that you would attribute to

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Amanda. So detectives believe that he probably killed his wife some

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time before 12:39pm in the afternoon, and later that night he

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set fire to the house to cover his tracks. Forensic linguistics was

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crucial to helping police solve the case. It is important because it

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shows a full picture of what happened. There was some sort of

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planning post Amanda being murdered to try to cover his tracks. Although

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he initially pleaded not guilty to murder, when prosecutors put all the

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evidence to him, he changed his plea to guilty on the first day of his

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trial. Christopher Berks must surely have thought he got away with

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murder, but he was nailed by his own words and is now serving a minimum

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of 19 years in prison. Proof that techniques like that are

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vital, and all eyes will be on the capital for bomb threat this week,

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but tech we sought there have been used to deal with previous threads,

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haven't they? Yes, and Dr Tim Grant, who we sought there, was

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called in by the police a few years ago to try to a nurse who was

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responsible for a bomb threat in London. Police had a guy in custody,

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Dhiren Barot, and they got hold of some plans, they thought this guy

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was going to plant gas canisters in cars around the capital, but they

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could not link the two. He got hold of some letters that he knew Dhiren

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Barot had written, compared them with the plans that they had got. It

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took him 36 hours to piece it all together and he said, in all

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probability, he wrote those plans. The guy was found guilty, a crucial

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part of it, piecing it altogether. It is going to be a particularly

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busy day for the Metropolitan Police over the next few days with the

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funeral tomorrow and the London Marathon on Sunday, are there

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substantial measures in place to keep the capital safe? Well, there

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will be. Listening to the Metropolitan Police commissioner,

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they are putting more officers on the ground. There is huge experience

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from the London Olympics. Of course. Baroness Thatcher's funeral as well.

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But the big thing is, at the moment there is no specific threat, but

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police are saying they will be doing everything they can to make sure

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that the public is safe, but they are also asking the public to do

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what they can to make their job a lot easier. So don't leave bags

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lying around, don't cause trouble, don't drag policeman away for petty

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problems when their aim is to make sure everyone is safe. Iwan, like

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many others, you have been putting in enormous effort for the weekend,

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are you worried? What was your reaction when you saw Boston?

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Shock, devastation and sadness, my heart goes out to everyone in

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Boston. I then thought, what about London? Will lightning strike

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twice? I think we have got to stand strong as a nation, I am definitely

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going to compete, I'm going to be there, I have trained so hard, I am

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raising money for charity, and that is the sad thing. There is evil

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people in this world, we have seen that in Boston, how can you police a

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26.2 mile route? It is open.That is the joy of London, the people who

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come out to support you, so, like Martin said, you need the public to

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be vigilant, and hopefully people will not be deterred, and as a

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nation we need to come together and be strong. What is the latest news

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on a marathon? There is a campaign in place. The organisers have said

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we are going to have a 32nd silence at the beginning, and everybody who

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picks up their race pack will get a black ribbon to wear in memory and

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respect of Boston. I've heard people don't buy Boston Red Sox tops, they

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are all sold out, because want to show support. Sport is a great thing

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to bring people together, and hopefully in London we can do Boston

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crowd. Good luck on Sunday, and thank you again. Very quickly, what

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time are you going for? Oh! Between 3.40 and four hours. Go for it!

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the next two days Ruth Goodman will be going on a very moving real-life

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journey into the past. She will be hearing the story of people who were

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treated in ways that would now be thought of as barbaric.

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It is views like these that make the Brecon Beacons in south Wales a

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popular holiday spot, but this stunning landscape was once seen

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through very different eyes. Between 1922 and 1959, hundreds and hundreds

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of children were brought here, separated from their families not

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just for days or weeks, but in some cases for years on end. All in the

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name of a duo. -- AQ. This Castle was a sanatorium, a remote haven

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where children were taken to recuperate from tobacco loses, a

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disease that was killing tens of thousands of people in the early

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20th century. -- tuberculosis. Sanatorium's were often the only

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option before antibiotics. You were placed in an environment where you

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could be able to heal. The big problem is that you are isolating

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people from their families and friends, perhaps for years at a

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time. Over 40 years, hundreds of children were treated here. Roy

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spent 18 months at the Castle. He arrived here when he was three.

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was such a long journey, it seemed to take all day. I remember when I

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got out of the vehicle and I saw the side of this Castle, it was a bit

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frightening, you know, it was a big building. Ann Peters was 11 when she

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came and spend two years. I was put to bed, my mother said goodbye and

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she was gone and that was it. not believe she was going to go. My

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mother started saying, I will have to go back and look after your

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brothers. I was in Ward two, it was a huge room. When I first went in, I

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was behind the door, I couldn't see anything, I didn't like it there.

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were the same group all the time, now and again a new person would

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come in. Sometimes someone would pass away in the night, you would

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say, where has Dave gone? They would say, his mum came for him. With no

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queue up for TV, the treatments, while at the ministered with the

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best of intentions, were undeniably harsh. -- cue for TV. They included

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immobilisation, forcing active children to lie flat on backs day

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and night. Pamela was eight years old when she was admitted. I have

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plaster of Paris from my head to my feet so I could not move. I could

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move my hands, that was it for two and a half years. I had to lie flat

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on my back, I did venture up on my elbow one day, and the doctor found

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me and said, if she caught me doing it again, I would be put in plaster

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of Paris and taken upstairs to be looked after in her room. She

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frightened me so much I never sat up. Cold, fresh air was thought to

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be curative, so the sickest children actually lived outside on the

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balcony. They were never brought indoors, and some spent years

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outside in all weathers. At the front there was a railing and a

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glass roof and Nottingham, just the elements. It was so cold, I can only

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remember the cold and the wind. Rain, shine, snow, everything, you

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would have a tarpaulin to put over your bed to keep it dry. The birds

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used to come in, robins and sparrows. You would throw crumbs to

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them, they would just come onto the bed, they would hop on your hand.

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Nurses and doctors, I had a big smile on my face, they say I loved

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it, but I hated it! In hindsight, we know that none of the treatments

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were really very helpful. That is quite a sad thing to have to admit.

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Today an active tuberculosis infection can be treated with a

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course of antibiotics, but the powerful memories of those were

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experienced a very different treatment are still with us, and it

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is not just memories that survive. The Castle still stands today, and

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tomorrow we will be going inside with some of the former patients who

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were treated here. We will hear more fascinating stories from a radically

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I love anything like that. I've just done Waterloo Road and my

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character has TB. You are back on the road with a brand new show

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about Strictly, but give us an idea about how the show goes? People go

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to the tour, but what people don't know is what goes on behind the

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scenes. You two were in it, you know everything. We do! We are

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going to lift the lid on that. very much - it's your personal

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journey and you are playing yourself in this and Craig, this

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was your idea? I thought it could go on another journey. I know we

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use that word a lot, but you've had a fantastic and amazing and

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incredible life as well and you had to deal with your mother's death

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two weeks before you went on to do Strictly and you don't shy away

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from that. You don't shy away from that then? No, when the show was

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going on, I didn't want it mentioned at all. It was in the

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papers, but I wouldn't want anyone to think to vote for me because of

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my mum and she would have hated that. I did it in a courageous way

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and thanks to Craig's writing we will embrace my mum's life through

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dance and music. It's a dance spectacular that has a gear to it.

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It gives the professional dancers, and Ian Waite, who people haven't

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seen on the telly for a year or so and it's great to see him with

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Natalie and they'll do all the ballroom and Artem, who is going to

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be your Robin Windsor. It's not a bad thing. They've tried the

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dancing and it's great. We have a lot of ten fantastic performers,

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five of which play the instruments and sing and dance and they act.

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It's going to be interesting seeing Artem doing his acting. They've all

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got dialogue and it's telling their life story of how he grew up in

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Russia and got to America and finally ended up on the series and

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what happens back stage. They get nervous. Does Artem get to do what

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Robin did so fantastically. Let's # You better think

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# What you're going to do to me... APPLAUSE

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It took us a while to get there. Does eget to jump into your arms?

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He will be jumping in my arms, yeah. It's that exact routine. I can't

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wait to see the transfer. That's why we have called it Strictly

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Confidential. It's confidential information about the personal

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lives and it comes to a head in a series of dance routines. It's not

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ballroom and Latin, but All That Jazz and musical theatre. Yeah.

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It's loaded? Shakespeare. It's going to be great fun. You have

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outfits on display. All of that. That's live on stage. That is the

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cha-cha one. Any excuse for the costumes. We love the sparkle.Good

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luck with it all. Thank you.For years, the professional dancers on

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Strictly have worked their magic, teaching certain contestants how to

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appear graceful and in time. Not me, I was a natural, wasn't I Craig?

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You were indeed. How do you get the same result out of a horse?

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Brilliant. Cheers, Bruno. That was fantastic.

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LAUGHTER For thousands of years, controlling

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a horse in battle was a matter of life or death. A single wrong step

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would spell disaster. As such, porst manship -- horsemanship

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involved into an armform. But as the centuries passed, these knights

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on horseback became wealthy courtiers and it symbolised not

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just a riders talent as a soldier, but his status as a gentleman. The

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leaps and bounds that had once saved a soldier's neck now drew

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excited gasps from the Lords and ladies. So, what began as a water-

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time survival, slowly transformed into a more peaceful performance,

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known today as dressage. It was at the London 2012 Games that the

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British public witnessed the climax to this journey of animal mastery,

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when the UK won gold. It was here in Derbyshire during the 17th

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century that the art of horsemanship first made its way off

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the battlefields and on to the lawns of the English country house.

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Boll sover was rebuilt by William Cavendish, the Duke of Newcastle.

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As horse master to King George II, he was a great lover of the animals

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and devoted his home to their training. This is now just one of

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four schools of classical dressage in the world. This is not your aver

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rang riding arena? It's so impressive. If you step further

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back, you can get an even more fantastic view of it. Look at the

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size of it. It's one of the grandest stables you can imagine.

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Tell me did Cavendish. He sounds colourful. How can one describe

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him? Fantastic. Born into an age in 1593 and grew up being trained in

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the arts, art of riding horses, and he took it one stage further and

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really provided a transitional period from being a battle

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manoeuvre into something much more refined and a gentleman's pursuit.

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It's more than 300 years since classical dressage has been

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performed publicly here at the castle, but all that is about to

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change. As a world-famous riding school re-opens its doors to the

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public. Preparing for that is the modern-day horse master, Alan

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Larson. Menage as it was known then or dressage as it is known now, is

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the ultimate co-operation between the horse and rider. In the 15th

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and 16th centuries it had been all about breaking the horse's spirit.

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There had been ridiculous techniques involving hedgehogs on

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the end of polls and using them to provoke the course. Cavendish

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worked with the horse. His methods were about empathy with the horse.

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He writes about the way in which you pet a horse, or certain words

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that you use with it. It is said that when he entered the stables

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his horses would whinney in delight as he recognised him. How on earth

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can something so beautiful evolve from what was happening on the

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battlefield? A lot of modern manoeuvres in dressage, even a

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simple half-pass, or being able to turn, was incredibly helpful in

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getting the drop on your opponent. Today, especially for the One Show

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and ahead of the grand re-opening, this is the first time that

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classical dressage is going to be performed at the castle for over

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300 years. Thank you very much. Today, thanks to no small part to

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William Cavendish, the Duke of Newcastle, horsemanship have moved

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from battlefield to big screen, a sport for kings gone global. I can

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see you doing that. I love a bit.I like the dancing. We can do it in

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the opening. Lovely.The poor horse. Having me on it. It's not fair!

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Well, guess what, though, horses aren't the only animals that can

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dance. It's true.If you would like to give some scores and comments on

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the following performances, that would be much appreciated. First up,

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what about this bird of paradise, wielding its cape in the paso doble.

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I'm loving the cape action, darling. You can't deny that. The woman

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should be the cape and that lovely bird is being a fantastic matador.

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I think the technique there is absolutely sensational and it does

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remind me of some your dancing actually. Thank you, Craig. I

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thought it was brilliant. Next, dancing the foxtrot we have a

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delightful pair of Clarks Grebes. Look at that. Look at the posture.

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High in the chest. Beautiful. All the heel leads. I thought about

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Alex here. You and James. fantastic unison. That is what it's

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all about. Grace, style, elegance and beauty. You've got all.

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Matching costumes. If only I was as good the the goose. It's not a

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goose. I tell you what, this is my favourite. What about this flai

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buoyant creature? -- flamboyant creature? Oh, no.Is that you?

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Sadly. This is for international os procyst. This is boogy for --

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osteoporosis and this is the campaign, boogy for the campaign. -

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- Boogie for the campaign. It's the hairstyle. Look at that. You've

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been very honest, so you have to give a mark for yourself out of ten.

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Well, ten obviously. You know I'm always honest. Speaking of tens,

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tomorrow morning from 10am the world's media will broadcast the

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funeral of former, Baroness Thatcher. -- Prime Minister,

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Baroness Thatcher. Tonight we catch a different side of the Iron Lady,

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one from behind the cameras. Richard Stone and I've painted Lady

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Thatcher's pore trait six times. -- portrait six times. This is the

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last portrayal. This sitting took place in a in the garden of the

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Royal Hospital Chelsea, where her ashes will be scattered. We decided

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to work with the title Retirement. She did give me one of her sort of

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steely gazes and said, "Retirement?". It's not the

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portrait of a Prime Minister any more. This is a portrait of an

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elderly lady in her twilight years but I think it captures that aspect

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of Lady Thatcher that very few people ever saw. The first time I

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met Lady Thatcher, of course, I was nervous. The very fact that I

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didn't spill paint on the carpet and I was on time. We got along

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then. Actually, the conversations that we Peteed itself so often was

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the joys of home cooking. I took along my wife's recipe for we'll sh

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rarebit and we include beer in ours and Lady Thatcher thought for a

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moment and said, "I don't think we have any beer in the house. Will it

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still work with gin?". There was more serious talk about the

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violence and she was trying to explain the SAS invasion at the

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Falklands. She would get the teapots and cups on the table and

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she would get extremely emotional and there would be a catch in her

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voice and sometimes close to tears, recalling the very difficult times.

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Here's a photograph of the very first picture. I wanted to get

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really the fire behind the ierz. It was that sort of -- eyes. It was

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that sort of steeliness that one wanted to get. He pleased he hugely

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when she took a long look at the picture and said, "It is at one

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would like to be remembered." What a hell of a compliment. That is a

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compliment. Thank you so much, Richard. You two have both sat for

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portraits yourselves, haven't you? I did mine in drag. Of course. Have

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you got it at home? It's at my mum's house. In which room?In the

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livingroom, above the fire place. Where else would it be with me

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looking delicious? What about you? They did me as Audrey Hepburn, the

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famous picture and it was my face. I really enjoyed it and it was nice

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to see it. Is it a photograph or a painting? A painting. It's at my

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house. Not above the fire place. Well, that's it for tonight.

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