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Hello and welcome to

The One Show with Matt Baker.

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And for the first time in 2018,

she's back - it's Alex Jones!

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Thank you very much.

All the the way

from New Zealand.

We had to go see

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Ted's grandparents. It was really

nice.

What was his highlight.

Going

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in the sea. Three weeks with Ted was

brilliant.

There was a point I

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thought you weren't coming back.

I

know. It's very far.

We are back

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together tonight.

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We're joined by a pair

rarely seen apart.

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They first appeared on our

screens 18 years ago.

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They're so close they can

finish

each other's sentences.

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So tonight we thought we'd let them

write each other's introductions.

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They're so close they can

finish

each other's sentences.

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So tonight we thought we'd let them

write each other's introductions.

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Please welcome, Kirstie

Allsopp and Phil Spencer!

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APPLAUSE

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Welcome.

Lovely to be here.

Nice to

have you both at the same time.

We

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have never been here at the same

time. It's a treat.

Terrible snowy

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conditions in Scotland. It left some

drivers stranded in their cars

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overnight. More snow coming. Stay

safe everybody. A lot of kids off

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school.

Schools will be closed

tomorrow. Stay safe.

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If you were stuck inside a car

together on a snowy road,

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who would be the first lose it

and jump out?!

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We would be good. I'm a cautious

snow driver. When it's at all cold I

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have the wellies the blank ket. All

the stuff you are advised, I really

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do that. Jool we spend long enough

travelling together we would be all

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right.

Have you floral wellies?

The

full range.

Every welly and sock to

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match.

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In the same year Kirstie and Phil

first worked together,

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Carillion was launched and went

on to become the UK's second

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biggest construction firm,

X years on and the walls have come

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crumbling down with the announcement

this week that they were

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going into liquidation.

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The ripples of this are being felt

all over the UK, affecting thousands

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of individuals as well as numerous

public projects, from

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new hospitals to HS2.

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Here's Iwan with the

far-reaching consequences

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of Carillion's collapse.

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You probably know from yesterday

that we've had to let about ten

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people either laid off or made

redundant in the business.

Andy has

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had to lay off ten stay and owned

£800,000 from Carillion?

What about

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our jobs are they safe.

In the short

to medium term we have been told the

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contracts will continue.

I've worked

Andy for 28 years.

28 years. Did you

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have a time like this in the company

where you have been fearful before?

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Never before. This is the worst time

we've ever had.

Are you conscious

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this could be your last day or last

week at work?

My wife is worried to

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see what will happen, basically, we

have three kids at home. I keep

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reassuring her we are fine sfwlchlt

how was that talking to the workers?

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It's quite difficult. You can see by

their reaction how concerned they

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are.

Do you expect to see any money

back?

My experience in these matters

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is we will be lucky to get 1p in the

£1.

Should the Government step in

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and subsidise that?

Questions have

to be asked about whether Carillion

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were fit for purpose. The Government

have thrown contract and contract at

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them. They are safe to trade with.

That's the hes mage we were getting.

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If it's good enough for the

Government. They have done their do

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you diligence we should be fine. I

think we've been let down.

Behind me

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is an empty building site. £165

million project sits in silence due

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to the collapse of Carillion on

Monday putting tens of thousands of

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jobs at risk. What do they do? Well,

they are not just a construction

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company. They are a middle man

winning contracts but

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sub-contracting other companies to

fulfil them.

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fulfil them. A leader campaigner

joins me. What company are they?

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They don't do any of the work

themselves. They existed by paying

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late. They simply utilised their

supply chain to fund them. The

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writing has been the wall for a long

time. They were selling off it is

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head office to raise money and they

leased them back.

Before they

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collapsed they were the UK's second

largest construction company. Kevin

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is one of many who are suffering

from the demolition of their

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business.

Six months ago they were

£1 billion company. Monday morning,

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they went into liquidation.

Unfortunately, there will be people

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who will lose their job. We've lost

the actual money of £230,000. Half a

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million worth of contracts. They

have been cancelled. Carillion are

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notorious for extended payment

terms. The banks pay you, not

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Carillion. The big major companies

are good at competing with each

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other - how cheap can we do it? They

are left with a situation where

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people lose money on jobs, or they

lose money. We then have a situation

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like this.

We have the doctors being

paid vast amounts of money up until

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the end of the year. It looks like

their bonuses have been protected

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yet when you compare that to the

small firm who is going to now go

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down I think people should now

really listen and watch this space

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and decide - OK, we will take

measures to avoid these problems in

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the future.

It's in the hands of the

administrators who will try and sort

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this mess out. Like the downfall of

BHS before the good people to lose

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out are the good people, the loyal

workers who are now jobless. That is

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exactly right.

Our thoughts are with

those loyal workers at the moment.

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The story will keep developing so

many repercussions.

18 years since

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you worked together we did digging

into the Channel 4 archives.

We did.

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We found the first ever episode of

Location, Location, Location from

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2000.

Here it is. Phil we love the

way that you just... Keep appearing!

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London, one of the most lucrative

property market in the entire world.

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This house, for example, in two

years it doubled in value. It hes

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was worth £120,000, now worth

£240,000 which is a nightmare for

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first-time How do you buyers.

Get on

the property ladder if you have less

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money to spend than the average

London house price?

That's the

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challenge to find someone a home

here in the city for £100,000.

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APPLAUSE

There you go.

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You never change the pair of you.

That's lovely.

Lovely to see that.

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Kate, I remember her name in East We

knew nothing London.

About

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television presenting.

We knew a

little bit about property.

That is

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why you got the gig.

No, we were

approached as a result of an article

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that was in the papers about our

property searching. Looking at it

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I'm like... How did they point a

camera at us and let us get on with

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it?

It survived those years. It's

still brilliant my top three Homes

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under the Hammer and that. I can't

name the other one... Countryfile.

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Of course.

Now the third series of

Love It or List It. You advice think

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couple, one wants to stay at home

and the other wants to move on find

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a new property you are on the

respective people's teams. Phil you

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are on the moving side.

Correct.

Kirstie you encourage them to stay

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and renovate.

Yes.

How did you

decide? You stick to those sides?

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Never in any doubt.

Absolutely not.

It plays to our strengths to be

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perfectly honest. It's a natural

debate that people have.

Yeah.

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Everyone at some point who owns a

property - shall we move? Shall we

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do it up? Shall we stay? It's a

fascinating process to be involved

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in.

I'm obsessed with how people use

their space. A lot of us have space

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we don't use effectively and that

flow and in and out of family life.

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Your home is supposed to be the

thing which enables you to lead a

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happy life. To go to work, to go to

school, to entertain to be with

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family and friends.

Yes.

It's a

vessel. It's not supposed to control

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you. So often we get into a

situation where it's making us

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unhappy. I think that can be fixed

very often. Although sometimes, I

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have on one or two of the shows. A

show tonight I walked in and I said

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- move.

Really? What was so awful

about the house?

It's not an awful

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house at all. I didn't think it was

suitable for them or could be fixed.

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Can you come round to my house

directly after this show.

Any time.

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It's life-changing for the couples.

You did a series yesterday and that

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moment when they are sitting and

deciding. Do you know which way it's

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going to go?

Not at all. Sometimes I

don't think they know right up until

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the fine al moment. Yesterday the

couple had only just moved back into

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their house having finished with the

builders. They were - does it work,

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doesn't it work? Recently I'd shown

them nice houses they could have

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moved to. It was fresh. They were

having the debate there and then.

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Let us see a Phil and Kirstie

moment.

This is an ingenious use of

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space.

Do you want to come up?

I

know I'm going to come round a

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corner and see you sitting on a loo.

I know you so well. I'm not looking.

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I'm close hes my eyes. One set of

doors there. Are you sitting on a

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loo?

Surprise!

Honestly, it's sad

how predictable you are. It's really

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sad.

We've been doing this too long!

APPLAUSE

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That was before the renovation,

wasn't it?

There is a sweet story

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about that. Her mum sent a hes mage

saying her daughter who had some

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learning disabilities watched that

and thought it was absolutely

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hysterical and has watched it again

and again and was having a difficult

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day, didn't want to go to school.

Her mum showeded

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Her mum showeded - showed it to her

and it stopped her crying and she

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went to school.

If you want to feel

as good as that Love It or List It

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continues at 8.00pm tonight on

Channel 4.

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As Phil and Kirstie know,

finding the right home is always

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a challenge for a family,

but so too is finding

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the right school.

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This has certainly been

the case for Carrie

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and her adopted son Nathan.

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We asked them to explore a recent

survey that suggests many adopted

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children in the UK are struggling

to integrate into

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mainstream education.

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There you go Master Grant.

Yummy,

yummy.

Today marks an new adventure

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for our eight-year-old son, Nathan.

He is starting his first full day at

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school. I can't send Nathan to

school if I can't see him. Nait arch

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was two years old when we adopted

him. We were never under an illusion

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things would be easy. Who was made

in my heart?

I love you.

You were

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made in my heart.

You were made in

my heart.

You don't take a child

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away from their parents unless will

are good reasons. Often they are

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abused, neglected and traumatised.

That trauma then later begins to

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make for behavioural issues. Trying

to fit into mainstream education can

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be really difficult for adoptive

children. Sadly, that's what

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happened with Nathan at his previous

school. Look at me, I'm not doing my

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job. In Nathan's case if someone

knocks his building tower over he

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will punch him. It was those

situation that is meant he was

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constantly being taken out of class.

The parents started a WhatsApp group

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to speak about Nathan. Someone

advised them the way to get the best

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result was to get a petition to have

Nathan excluded from the school. So

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it was decided that he would have to

go to a different school, a

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specialist school, and that wasn't

our choice. I want you to have the

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best day ever. Each adopted child

has their own story. While many

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won't struggle with behavioural

issues and sail through their

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education a recent survey suggests

adopted kids are 2 o 0 times more

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likely to be permanently excluded

from school than their classmates --

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20. I have come to chemical weapon

beachlodge School which specialises

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in supporting adopted children.

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It was founded by Daniela Shankly

after her 14-year-old son was

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excluded from three schools. What

was it like at school for him?

Full

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of anxiety. He was dis- regulated.

He would throw things, spit, and be

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violent to other children. His

teacher said it was not the right

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school for him and there was not a

right school. So that is why I set

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up the school.

Tell me some of the

different things from mainstream?

We

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group children in cohorts according

to emotional age, rather than

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chronological. Most classrooms are

low stimulation. We have a speech

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and language therapist to help them

develop relationships.

I want to

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hear from the children what

difference they think this approach

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makes?

I would keep things inside me

and it would make me angry and

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worked up. What is it like in this

school? If I am upset I can talk to

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the teacher and they understand.

It

is easy to make friends. People do

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not judge as much.

The teachers

understand you more and you feel

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more free, you do not feel trapped.

We do not know how separating

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children from their peers now will

affect their future but these

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adoptive mums think it is the best

option.

My son would not cope in a

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mainstream school. What do you do?

Here he can cope.

Those social

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skills, they are coming. I try to

mix it up out of school, taking

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George to different groups, doing

swimming and things with other

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children.

Our schools under pressure

to meet the needs of

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to meet the needs of these children?

Yes, how can one teacher be an

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expert in different children's

needs. Colebourne Primary School in

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Birmingham is trying to tackle the

issue. Headteacher Stuart Guest has

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been teaching his staff on

attachment and trauma.

We have

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introduced attachment friendly

approaches such as having not having

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behaviour charts which can induce

shame and having a homework approach

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to enable children to succeed, not

berating them if they do not bring

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it in and since we have introduced

the approaches we have noticed

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improvement in behaviour and a

reduction in exclusions.

I am keen

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to find out how Nathan's day went at

the new school. How was it? Good. 18

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children in Nathan's School, 30

children in the school I went to see

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today. What about the thousands of

others? Thanks, Carrie and Nathan.

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Good news, Nathan has settled in

well and made lots of friends. It is

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going well.

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We're joined now by

Becky White, the schools development

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officer from Adoption UK.

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The results from the survey are

shocking. Is there a key point when

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you start to look for a solution?

Three quarters of children who are

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adopted have experienced abuse and

neglect in the early part of their

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life and at Adoption UK we are

concerned to raise awareness of this

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and the fact the early experiences

of children change how they develop

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so that many years later their

foundations are different from

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children who had a secure childhood

and in school it might come out of

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surprising behaviours you cannot

explain but if you have an

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understanding of attachment and

trauma, it becomes clear why the

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behaviour is happening and there are

strategies to be more supportive and

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help the child to increase their

tolerance and unable themselves to

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manage their own emotions. Awareness

in education and across society that

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it is an invisible disability.

It

was said in the film it is hard for

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one teacher to deal with all the

needs of the different children, but

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how can mainstream schools ensure

they are as equipped as possible?

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There is a lot of training available

on attachment and trauma and we

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found the techniques that will help

children who have experienced early

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trauma and neglect will do no harm

to any child will be beneficial to a

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lot of children. Many children in

care will have experienced abuse and

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neglect will benefit. So seek out

training and come to organisations

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like Adoption UK. We would want to

call for this to be included as part

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of teacher training so when teachers

begin their first year of teaching

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they know this, because it affects a

significant number.

And it would

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help generally with teaching.

We

know teachers are good at holding

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these things in mind. They manage a

lot of different needs and we

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believe this could be a key for many

children.

What do you say to

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adoptive parents. It must be

heartbreaking for them. They are

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turning up at the school and hoping

their child will get through the

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day.

And undergoing the walk of

shame to the Headteacher's office.

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Many children adopted, the average

ages three and a half. And then

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almost immediately they have to take

them to school make the choice of

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which school would be the best. We

recommend broadening your horizons

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to what you think the ideal school

is. A small village school might be

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good but a bigger school might have

more resources and experience to

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deal with unusual behaviour. We

suggest you visit the school, get a

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feel for it and talk to staff and

tell them your child is adopted and

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might need extra help. If they say,

I am sure it will be fine, you might

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want to look elsewhere. If they say

we have had training and understand

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something about attachment, you can

have a conversation with the school.

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You are an adoptive mum of two. It

should not put people

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should not put people off, it is

tricky but there are ways around the

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school?

We have wonderful stories of

Adoption UK members who have found a

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great school and their children are

thriving. There are challenges when

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adopting but if you cant you can

seek in the initial stages to seek

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out support from organisations like

Adoption UK. You have your eyes open

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to what is out there and then

adoptive families can thrive and

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adopted children can do well.

Thank

you.

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Now, wouldn't it be great to make

a name for yourself by saying

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something profound that gets quoted

by millions of people

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and is remembered for generations?

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There's some great

quotes we all know.

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Churchill, "We shall fight

them on the beaches."

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Martin Luther King,

"I have a dream."

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A personal favourite.

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"Let's see what happened

when it went...

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under the hammer!"

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Arthur's been finding

out about someone whose

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wonderful words we know,

although the author

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is now largely forgotten.

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What is this life if, full of care,

We have no time to stand and stare?

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Surely the familiar lines of poetry.

Their Victorian author WH Davies has

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slipped off the literary radar along

with the rest of his famous poem

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written at the height of his

popularity in 1911 and recorded

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three years before his death.

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No time to stand beneath the boughs,

And stare as long as sheep and cows.

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No time to see, when woods we pass,

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Where squirrels hide

their nuts in grass.

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Today I am travelling to his

birthplace in South Wales to find

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out about this maverick soul. By

turns a petty thief and hobo who

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became one of the most established

poets of his day. I have always had

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a romantic vision of where WH Davies

might have been born, but, true to

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form, it is a pub in Newport. The

poet himself unveiled this in 1937.

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It is very impressive, although he

was not actually born here. It seems

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he got his dates wrong. A local

historian has been doing detective

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work.

If you look at this document,

his birth certificate, you can see

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he was born in number six Portland

St and the plaque is on number 12,

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the church house pub in Newport. He

went to live there when he was young

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and lived with his grandfather and

assumed that is where he was born.

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He was a naughty boy, he was caught

stealing. He was dealt six strokes

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off the birch.

He spent his 20s

hitching rides on transatlantic

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cattle boats but still writing

nature poetry.

Poetry was pouring

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out of him but he could not find

anybody interested and then he heard

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about the gold rush and joined it in

Canada and while he jumped trains

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with a

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with a friend, Three Fingered Jack,

he fell onto the train and his leg

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was severed.

Disabled and penniless,

WH Davies returned to London to try

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to sell his poetry.

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No time

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to see, in broad daylight,

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Streams full of stars,

like skies at night.

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Tree surgeon Matthew is on a mission

to reintroduced under which Davies

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to the British public. How did a man

who live in DOS houses become a

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pillar of society?

Even in his

wildest days, WH stayed true to his

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roots as a poet and freethinking

poet. He used Who's Who and centre

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mailshots to everybody, it in this

scene, and George Bernard Shaw

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picked up his writing put him in the

spheres he needed to get his work

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out there.

Why is his poetry less

red now than others?

There is an

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argument that some of his verse is

so simple, it is almost doggerel

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verse. That is a shame and I see

through it to see the ethos life is

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tough, let's celebrated and live as

happily as we can.

This provocative

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sculpture was commissioned for

Newport on the 50th anniversary of

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the poet's death. It is called Stand

And Stare but the figure has a

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blanket.

It is not a blanket, it is

a tree form that has pushed up into

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the skin of a man like form. I

wanted to say something about the

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seriousness of the poet, a great man

who wrote simple things and as you

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know simple things are not that

simple.

I do not think Davies would

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have minded the sculpture. He was an

unconventional man who lived a life

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like no other poet.

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A poor life this if, full of care,

We have no time to stand and stare.

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Thank you. Gyles, the man who knows

everything there is to know about

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quotes is here now.

I love messing

about in quotes and I have a quote

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from my two other favourite

presenters. The top four in the UK.

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Location, location, location.

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Who said it first? Probably us.

It

was a long time ago. It was. Often

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attributed to Lord Samuel, a

property developer from the 1970s

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but not, he liked to attributed it

to himself. It goes back to at least

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the 20s, in the Chicago Tribune in

1926.

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Float like a butterfly,

sting like a bee.

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Who said it first? Muhammad Ali. No,

it is part of a poem. Float like a

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butterfly, sting like a bee, the

hands cannot hit what they cannot

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see. A phrase invented by Drew

Brown, one of Muhammad Ali's

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trainers. He heard it and thought, I

will take that and because he had a

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bigger system than the trainer he

got away with it. Survival of the

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fittest. Darwin. You think? Writer

of the great origin of species.

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Rhondda. A friend -- that is wrong.

A friend of his Herbert Spencer said

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it would be a better title than the

title he gave the book. So we should

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give credit to Herbert Spencer.

I am

not answering any more.

Have we

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time?

For one more.

No, I am sorry.

Thanks, Gyles.

Always good to see

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you. It is always good to be seen.

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Thank you Gyles.

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Thanks to Kirstie and Phil.

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We'll be back tomorrow

with Monty Don.

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See you then.

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