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Hello and welcome to The One Show with Alex Jones.

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Tonight's guests have both 'Got Talent' in bucket loads.

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One is the current Olympic, World and Commonwealth women's

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The other is a comedy heavyweight, making millions laugh

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But Matt, I wonder what it would be like if their worlds collided?

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So do I. . OK, we're ready to see what you're going to do. You're

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right to counter that. Is COMMENTATOR: Great left hand. Do you

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work out at all. Telling punches. There is real potential for you to

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do really well. COMMENTATOR: Good left hooks there.

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A lot of showing off your muscle. COMMENTATOR: Nicola Adams gets the

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win that she wants. Please welcome Nicola Adams

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and David Walliams! Fresh from the win. How are you?

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Welcome, welcome. How are you, I've missed you. Are you well? I'm great.

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You heard music you are not the only guest tonight. Singing live we have

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music from Erasure. Keep it going team. Here we go.

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# # I hear you calling

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# Oh, baby, please # Give a little respect to me... #

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Love it. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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That's perfect. Are you a big fan? I'm very excited.

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I met them in the corridor. I am a genuine, huge fan. Me, too. I'm a

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pet shop fan. There is rivalry. Some people say you correspondent be a

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Erasure and a Pet Shop Boys fan. Yes, the Pet Shop Boys say that. Do

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Erasure say that? Andy, what is the answer to that question. Is it OK to

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like Erasure and the pep shot boys? I think it's fine to like both. I

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really like them. I'm big fan of theirs. We've met them a couple of

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times and we get on really well with them.

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APPLAUSE Yes. Boring. We wanted to know if

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they hate each other. Were you not in a Pet Shop Boys video in 2006.

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Ufr' done your research. I was with Matt Lucas in I'm With Stupid. What

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are your memories? Strange little theatre. It was fun. I was a fan

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from childhood. I was a teenager in the 80s when they started out. To

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come full circle, get to meet them, get to know them and be in one of

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their videos was amazing. Pinch yourself moments. Now you have met

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Erasure we will see if we can get you in one of their videos. Thank

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you. Erasure will be performing their new song at the end of the

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show. Nicola, you are fresh from your win at the weekend?

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APPLAUSE Your fight against Maryan Salazar.

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Fighting in your hometown as well, Nicola? Yeah, the crowd was

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unbelievable. I bet. Couldn't believe. It better than I dreamed.

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It was the noise, the chants. I loved every minute of it. How badly

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did she duff you up in relation to how badly you duffed her up. How

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were you feeling a few days after that fight? I don't look too bad.

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Yeah, I'm all right. We will talk about David's new book, World's

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Worst Children. On that note, we were wondering. We love the

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character names. We were wondering whether you have some nicknames for

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your children, maybe after something they've done today. For example,

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right, Matt used to be. I was Spiller Baker. Every time a glass

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was put on my table it was split everywhere. I was Ally Bongo. Let us

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know their neighbouring names we will show them later on. What! Cries

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of "what" from the One Show team. In 2014, a One Show investigation

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found that some taxi companies were charging wheelchair users up

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to four times as much as other The law changed last month

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to try to put a stop to this overcharging,

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but has it made a difference? Enema of us have to rely on taxis to

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get around from time to time. It can be an expensive business. Surely,

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the fares should be the same whether you are in a wheelchair or not.

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Wheelchair users have long campaigned for an end to

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discrimination on public transport, and it seems they've finally been

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heard. A major change in the Equality Act, brought in last month

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if a driver of an accessible taxi refuses to take someone in a

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wheelchair anywhere or charge them more they could be find up to

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?1,000. Is it making a difference? I have come to Nottingham toll see if

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the cabbies are happy to take me around the city and whether they

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will charge the same as my able bodies One Show colleague. There we

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go. No problems getting a ride at the taxi rank. All the city's

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Hackney carriages are accessible to wheelchair users. Because they are

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on a meter charges should be the same. How much was yours? ?4.60. So

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was mine, bang on. Perfect. So far so good. What about much uber. That

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is not an option in Nottingham. They don't have wheelchair accessible

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cars. They are working to expand their cars across the UK. We will

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pre-book a private hire company through a local term. Good morning,

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I was hoping I could get a car please, I'm in a wheelchair I will

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need an accessible cab. We haven't got one available straightaway. You

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are being looking at half an hour. How much ?12. How much is that? ?3.

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50. That will be here straightaway. I have to wait half an hour and pay

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four times the prif ledge. The cab arrives and, to be fair, the driver

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can't do enough for me. -- privilege. My taxi ride was full of

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extras. He made sure I was safe. It was four times the effort. It was

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four times the price for me. It's not my fault. Overcharging isn't

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just a problem here in Nottingham. We called 40 different private hire

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firms across the UK and nearly half quoted a higher fare for a

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wheelchair user, sometimes three times as much. That's despite the

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changes to the law brought in last month specifically to prevent this.

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Why are they not being enforced? This law only works if the councils

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involved produce a form al list of wheelchair accessible vehicles. If

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they don't produce a list, then the law doesn't come into effect in

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their area at all. A substantial proportion of councils have said

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they don't have any intention of creating such a list. It's bonkers,

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really. One of those councils that doesn't have a list of wheelchair

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accessible taxis is, you guessed it, here in Nottingham. I wanted to ask

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the council why they are not doing what they need to make sure this law

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is enforced. They couldn't provide anyone to talk to me. A spokesperson

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told us that the council takes discrimination seriously. It's

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developed a strategy to drive up standards and is intending to create

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a list to prosecute drivers in the future. It seems that list can't

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come soon enough. Is despite our earlier positive experience, as we

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tried to take a Hackney carriage back to the station we encounter a

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problem. The driver wants to charge us ?10 fixed fee for taking a

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wheelchair. When challenged, he reluctantly agrees to put on the

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meter and struggles to get the ramp out of the back of the vehicle. On

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arrival at the station, he almost doubles the meter fare he claims

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it's standard policy to charge extra for a wheelchair. The wheelchair...

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OK. Thank you. Twice the price because you made him take me. Isn't

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it a shame the wheelchair was an inconvenience for him. It's a joke.

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We asked the local taxi drivers association for it is thoughts on

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the sdpint. They failed to provide a response. I'm fortunate, I can get

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out of my wheelchair, a lot of people can't. Until these laws are

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enforced properly, there is still a long way to go.

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Steve is here with us now to talk about this a little bit more.

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Shocking. What happened to you there at the end, Steve? The whole

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situation... Being in a wheelchair isn't my fault. It isn't the fault

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of anybody in a wheelchair. To be charged four times as much as you

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saw there, it's unreal. You have to remember this isn't always the case.

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It's the same as anything, you get good people and bad people, people

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who take advantage of situations. I was in a cab the other day on the

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way to a charity dinner they said, don't worry about the fare, give it

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to the charity. It isn't to say that everybody does this. It's the shame

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there is the opportunity to do it. In your general every day are you

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ringing up to get the best price are you getting quotes as opposed to

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jumping in a cab? IPhone around and get the best price I can. You know

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that you're being charged more than other people. It's just unfair. Tell

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us then about this loophole that means that cab companies can get

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away with charging you more? So, there was a new law brought in last

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month that says for - from the Government, saying, please, can

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local councils put together a list of taxi companies that have got

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accessible cabs when their fleet. Right. Now, there is no law to say

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that this list has to be enforced. The thing, is once you are put on

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that list, you then have to charge the same for an able-bodied

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passenger and a wheelchair passenger. Once you are on the list

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you have to charge the same. There is no law to be put on this list in

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the first place. Is it mandatory or mandatory to be on this list as far

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as local councils are concerned. You have a reply? I have a reply here.

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We asked the Local Government Association about this. They

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represent 371 councils. We asked them to give us their findings. They

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told us they encourage all their members to draw up a list of

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designated vehicles. Encourage means it's not mandatory of course. They

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told us the councils require drivers to undertake disability awareness

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training when there has been complaints or when wheelchair users

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have been refused entry to the taxi. We will keep an eye on this. Are you

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getting a taxi home? Hopefully! Good luck. We will talk about Britain's

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Got Talent. Are you watching? I love the show. Wonderful. Job done.

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Here's the highlights from this year so far.

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Place the dog on the top of your thighs.

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APPLAUSE Feelgood, feelgood, feelgood all the

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way, David. I mean, it never disapoints this show, does it? It's

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really fun to do. We have genuine chemistry as judges together, we

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have Ant and Dec the idea that anyone can come on the show and do

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absolutely anything. Most people have something. You have an uncle

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who can play the spoons. You don't have to be talented to do well on

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it. We saw the man who did the hula hoops. These are my favourite acts.

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The talented people bore me. I like people with no talent. What about

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harpy Gardner. I was in school and asked about one of the children, who

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is the untalented person you have on Britain's Got Talent. I said Simon

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Cowell. He judges other people's talent. He has no talent.

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His own, has he? We haven't seen you press the golden buzzer. You said it

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yourself, you are not necessarily looking for talent. No. What are you

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looking for? I've liked using the golden buzzer, the buzzer we press

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to get someone through to the live semi-finals, to give someone a

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chance who won't otherwise get through. The other judges have made

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it very competitive because they think - if my golden buzzer wins

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somehow that reflects well on me. This year it's quite an interesting

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story. You will see it unfold on Saturday night at 8.00pm on ITV.

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Don't know what's on the BBC. No-one will be watching because they are

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watching ITV. It's quite an interesting story and quite

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different golden buzzer for me. Someone coming back on the show to

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prove me wrong. Is this person as good as Lorraine who was singing

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while ironing. She was amazing. I loved Lorraine. Everywhere I go

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people sing the Crumble show to me. Are you in touch? We are in touch

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she did warm-up for me on my sketch show. I really like her. She's a

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really, really funny lady. I really like Izzy Simpson, the magician. She

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produced one of your books, didn't she? That was great. A free bit of

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advertising. It moves us nicely on to the new children's book. It's

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World's Worst Children 2 it follows number one. This is the line-up. The

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ten here. Which one of those is your favourite?

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Well, I tried to you know, have terrible traits for children, I

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think Spoiled brat fun one, his parents are

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billionaires -- spoilt Brad, he wants more presents every day but he

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ends up drowning in chocolate cake at the end of the story. They are

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cautionary tales about naughty children and what happens to them.

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And this is your 17th Burke, including the picture books. You

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must cough them out, David? Well, you know what? I met Michael

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alacrity who wrote What Was, he taught me to get going! It too is

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about whether I've got the time to write the books, I am working on new

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books for the autumn, I love it. I bring out a book, and I get a tweet

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on that date from a child saying, I just finished your new book, when is

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the new one coming out? And its birds you on? It is a real thrill, I

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never thought it would happen during my career. You have written for a

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long time, you wrote for Ant and Dec? Yes, I would write on their

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sketch show in 1995. And how different is it too when you started

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on the children's books? I suppose that you trust your instincts a bit

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more, when you have had a bit of success with something. And I

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realise that you can take the story anywhere. The only limit is your

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imagination. I have had to learn that. I was used to writing for

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television where they turn up and say, we cannot do this, it is too

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expensive... I've began to make the bug is epic. There are no limits.

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Where you a big reader as a child? A little bit... Who was your

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favourite? My favourite character in... No, when you were younger.

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Have you read this one? It would probably be Competitive Colin! We

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know another one of those, don't we? We do! We do! We wanted to find out

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how you can purchase of the characters in the book, David, maybe

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you would qualify as one of the World's Worst Children? The thing

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is, to find out, we obviously needed to get someone on who knew David as

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a boy... Please welcome David's mum, Cathleen! APPLAUSE

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It is lovely to see you, are you all right? Come on in. Cathleen, how are

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you? Don't be nervous. She is never off our screens! How do we think the

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series of Britain's Got Talent is going? Umm... It is OK. I am dying

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to see what his golden buzzer is. Yes, aren't we all? I think it is

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Berry good. My mum was on last year. -- very good. She stood in for Simon

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Cowell. And why didn't you have her back? He was quite angry, my mum got

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a great response. People on Twitter said that she needed to come on

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every week. He did not like it. He is insecure? Let's move on to your

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son... As a young lad. Fussy Frankie is one of the characters, he does

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not like fruit or vegetables. Is that something like David when he

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was younger? David was not good with fruit or vegetables when he was

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younger. And in fact, I remember picking him up from school one day,

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and he had a large swelling in his cheek. And I thought, my goodness,

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has he hurt himself? No, they had had apple crumble for pudding which

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he did not like. He had got a piece of Apple which he kept in there all

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afternoon... All afternoon? Cause he was too frightened to spit it out! I

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was going to spit it out between the cafeteria and the classroom but I

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did not get the chance! It was there for three hours. It must be a world

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record for how long someone can keep Apple in their mouths! We mentioned

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Competitive Colin, the most competitive child, was David a

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competitive boy by nature? Yes, I think so. He has an older sister.

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She was very much into performing. She liked to recite poetry, so we

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had a little puff in the living room. She would stand on it and

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recite a poem but David decided he did not like that, so he pushed her

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off! David! He stood on it himself and did not know any poems, so he

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just won't pa pa pa pa pa pa! What was he like doing his homework, was

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he into his writing as a little boy? As additional boy, I don't think so.

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He was into his writing, -- as a little boy. He wrote for the school

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magazine. Was he a goody two shoes? No. Was he naughty? No, not

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particularly. The Miller in the middle? No, he was not a bad sign.

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Not one of the worlds worst? Definitely not! We are going to talk

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about your new autobiography shortly, Nicola.

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And the worlds worst children is out next Friday. We will be inundated

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with tweet saying, keep Cathleen on! APPLAUSE

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From one chapter in life to another...

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For elderly people who have to make the move into a care home,

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the last thing they want is to be split up from their partner

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Just last week, Britain's most senior family judge said more should

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be done to keep couples together, and in this next film Esther hears

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two stories that show exactly why this is so important.

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The marriage fell promises that a loving couple will stay together in

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sickness and in health, until death do us part. But when a loving couple

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is forced to separate towards the end of their lives it is

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heartbreaking for them and their families. Our story is of two older

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couples, each linked by love, yet faced with the prospect of being

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forced apart. Two couples, two very different outcomes. John and

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Marjorie Smith from Blackburn had been inseparable since they married

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in 1950. But after nearly 65 years together they could no longer care

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for themselves at home. So their daughter, Gill, was delighted when

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they were both admitted to the Ravens wing man are

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-- wing care home in 2014. They were given a front bedroom and a double

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room, and they were allowed to live together as a married couple. I

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looked after myself in that time and John. Did you? Even here when you

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were together? Yes. In January 2016, John suffered a major stroke and was

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hospitalised. Because of his medical needs, the local clinical

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commissioning group said that he could only be discharged to a

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nursing home. They agreed to find one where both he and his wife could

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live together. But there was a problem. Of the two nursing homes

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they found, one could not take couples with different care needs

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and the other did not have nurses trained to deal with John's medical

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needs. So nowhere, it seemed, had the facilities for John and Marjorie

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to stay together. I spoke to the owner of the care home here. He

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suggested that we put forward to them that maybe my father came back

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here and we brought the nursing to him. It sounds sensible? It seemed

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to tick all of the boxes. But when the local NHS body met to cost the

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proposal, they made their final decision. They said when my dad left

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the hospital it would be to a nursing home and nowhere else. John

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had to stay in hospital for ten weeks while they were waiting for a

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home that could look after both him and his wife. When he was ready for

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discharge, if he could have been somewhere together, he would have

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lasted an awful lot longer I think. He spent his last hours with me

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holding my hand all the time. She sat by his bedside from Easter

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Saturday to the following Wednesday when he died. There's nothing you

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can do. He's not going to get better. So there. But I believe to

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word, because I loved him. -- believed that he would. He didn't.

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We asked the clinical commissioning group why they could not find

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somewhere where John and Marjorie could stay together. They gave this

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reply... But is it really so difficult to

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accommodate a couple with different needs in the same home? Eric and Joe

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Gregory from Worthing met 33 years ago. They had both been married

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previously and felt incredibly lucky when they found each other through a

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dating agency. Within a matter of a week or two... We were driving down

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to Central Brighton to book a slot at the registry office! No! It was

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settled within the month! Fabulous! Sadly, at 74, Jo developed dementia

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and Eric became her full-time carer. Suddenly I felt everything was on

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top of me. And I just can't cope. Jo was admitted to the local care home,

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while Eric stayed alone at home. What was it like, being separated?

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Lonely. And I'm on my own. So, after 16 months apart, Eric joined his

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wife at Linfield house care home. Because of Jo's severe dementia, she

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has to stay in a secure unit while Eric sleeps in a separate section of

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the home. The important thing for Eric is that in the day, they are

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together. After Eric has had his breakfast he will come to the sweet

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word Jo is living. He can spend a whole day with her. They don't need

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to ask permission. And it makes a difference? Definitely. Is it

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important to have her with you all day so you can hold her hand and

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kissed her good night? Yes. It is heartbreaking. Eric and Jo are

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watching, we know because they sent this picture earlier today and they

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wanted to say thank you. They wanted to say thank you to everyone who has

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done a great job of looking after us. Nicola's new autobiography

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explains how she went from this... We have a cute picture! To this! We

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will chat about it in a moment but first, let's remind ourselves of

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your historic victories in London and Rio...

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What a stunning right cross from Nicola Adams, a driving red cancan.

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An amazing shot! If that did not catch the eye of the judges, I don't

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know what will! An amazing backhand! A straight shot from Nicola Adams...

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Hitting the opponents as she comes...

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CHEERING Nicola Adams! APPLAUSE

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CHEERING Nicola, in your book you say that

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after your first fight when you were only 13 years old, even though

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women's boxing was not an Olympic sport, you knew that she wanted to

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be an Olympic champion? I did. What was it about that fight that gave

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you that belief? It was just seeing the reruns Earth Muhammad Ali, my

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hero, seeing him when his Olympic medal, turning a pro and getting the

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titles. In the ring myself I love the crowds and entertaining. When I

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got a nice thought, this is for me and what I want to do. Weirdly,

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wasn't it an exercise class that your mum did, which was the

:29:29.:29:33.

beginning of your boxing? We have a lovely picture of your mum. She

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won't thank us for this! This is your man... Here is Dee. One night,

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she could not get a baby-sitter for me and my brother, they had an

:29:48.:29:51.

after-school class at the same place, they took us down and we

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loved it! And you said that Muhammad Ali was a big influence for you, as

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was your mum. What were the similarities between your mum and

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Muhammad Ali? They are both very confident and both went to the gym!

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My mum is not a boxer but he was. She is very determined. She is

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really strong minded. So was Muhammad Ali. I took that, and they

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have both inspired me. You have really been pushing for women's

:30:22.:30:25.

boxing to be recognised. What has been tougher, the struggle to do

:30:26.:30:30.

that or winning in the ring? I think the struggle to do that! I can

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imagine! I haven't done too badly on winning...! But we had to go through

:30:35.:30:42.

all sorts to get women's boxing lifted. We did not have funding. To

:30:43.:30:48.

the point where we would be sent away with kit and there would only

:30:49.:30:53.

be a couple of bits. One goal would box and where the kit, and we would

:30:54.:30:57.

have to go in next with it. It was bad. And sweaty!

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You are renowned for your smile. When you go into a a fight, when do

:31:02.:31:10.

you get focused, first thing in the morning or before you go in it. The

:31:11.:31:13.

determination and you lose that smile? As soon as the bell goes,

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that's it. I'm ready to go. Focused on my opponent. The competitiveness

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comes out. I'm ready to - I want to win. How did you get into the zone,

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David? Back to the swimming. You know, you have done some massivive

:31:32.:31:37.

challenges in your time. How did you prepare yourself mentally then?

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Well, I think actually it's something that people don't talk

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about. I wonder if you will share this, Nicola. With athletes it's a

:31:44.:31:48.

different class. You are an Olympic gold medal winner. It is a battle in

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the mind as much as the body, right? Yeah it is. So many points you want

:31:54.:32:00.

to give up. You have to think about winning and visualise the good

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feeling if you get - for me, it was reach France. For you I guess it's

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beating your opponent? Definitely. 50% mental and 50% physical. I can

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get into the ring sometimes and look my opponent in the eye and I'll know

:32:16.:32:19.

if they are up for it or if they've already lost. Raising the row file,

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is it about you winning medals, you have done everything, or putting the

:32:28.:32:30.

sport into a pedestal where people will notice it. What is your drive?

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Yeah, I want to really raise the level of the women's professional

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boxing. I want to get it up there so it's at the point where there will

:32:40.:32:44.

be women headlining the big shows in Vegas or Wembley. I'd love to be

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able to do that for women's boxing. There are so many great stories in

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Nicola's autobiography. It's called Believe, out tomorrow.

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Nicola isn't the only person who's been a trailblazer for women's

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We'll find out how she transformed the sport in the 40s

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First, here's Patrick Ayree on a British island where the

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closest they get to rush hour is the regular periwinkle scramble.

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Sounds like it has come out of one of your books, David.

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At the mouth of the Dee Estuary, in the Wirral peninsula, lie the Hilbre

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Islands. Over thousands of years crashing waves have skrupted and

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shaped these islands into a beguiling wildlife haven. During the

:33:56.:34:03.

summer months, pink carpets the island. Bees begin their busy work.

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Swallows nest. The Hilbre Islands are surrounded by

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one of the fastest tide al estuaries in Europe and it's the tides that

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determine the rhythm of life here. -- tidal. At low tide, the islands

:34:29.:34:35.

are connected to mainland Britain. The shallow water around Hilbre

:34:36.:34:39.

becomes a foraging ground for oyster catchers. Muscle catchers would be a

:34:40.:34:50.

more appropriate name. Their long bills are perfectly adapted to prize

:34:51.:34:57.

them apart to provide a tasty treat. The birds search for food, flipping

:34:58.:35:08.

over rocks to locate a meal. The exposed shore becomes a hive of

:35:09.:35:13.

activity as thousands of periwinkles scramble to find the best place to

:35:14.:35:20.

wait for the water to return. Barnacles close up to conserve

:35:21.:35:26.

moisture, but a few still take their chance to filter feed as tiny

:35:27.:35:33.

trickles of water pass by. Sea Slaters, large relatives of the wood

:35:34.:35:38.

louse feed on seaweed and dead material that's been washed ashore.

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Life may seem idyllic, but the serenity here can be deceiving.

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Twice daily the tide rises and sea level can change by up to ten meters

:35:55.:35:58.

in just a few hours. At high tide during the day the sky is filled

:35:59.:36:03.

with flocks of birds, some looking for a safe place to land. Like many

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British islands, summertime here provides a resting place for

:36:09.:36:17.

feathered visitors. These birds will soon be on their way to the Arctic.

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As summer hes comes to a close and autumn arrives the life here will

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continue as time and tides wait for no man, barnacle or bird. Thank you,

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Patrick. Lovely shots in that film. Very nice.s time Beautiful. Now to

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welcome a woman who has a lot in common with Nicola. Real name,

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Barbara Buttrick. In the ring she's known as...

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COMMENTATOR: Please welcome Barbara The Mighty Atom. . Why are you

:36:58.:37:02.

shouting. Welcome. Nice to see you. A legend. A hero of Nicola's as

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well. Yes. You were the first woman to win a World Championship in

:37:09.:37:13.

boxing in Texas, 1957. That is right. What do you remember about

:37:14.:37:18.

that day? It was a great day because I won the fight. Of course! Yes. How

:37:19.:37:24.

much fuss was made. This was the first time that that had happened,

:37:25.:37:31.

wasn't it? Yes. We managed to get licences from the Texas Commission,

:37:32.:37:35.

we had a promoter that wanted to put on the fight. So that was the main

:37:36.:37:39.

thing. Who was your opponent and what do you remember about her?

:37:40.:37:47.

Phyllis Kugler, she was bigger and heavier than I was. What are you

:37:48.:37:55.

fighting in there? Bikinis. We were posing for publicity shots. We

:37:56.:37:59.

didn't fight like that. We wore boxing trunks and a T-shirt. Women's

:38:00.:38:07.

Bocking wasn't recognised to the mid to late 90s. How did you find

:38:08.:38:11.

opponents to box in the UK? In the UK you couldn't get on shows and you

:38:12.:38:18.

couldn't get in the gyms or anything so I went on the Bocking booths. I

:38:19.:38:30.

wnt on a bootn in 1949,. Epsom Downs. All fairs. What does it sound

:38:31.:38:37.

to work the circuit like that? It sounds like hard work. Very

:38:38.:38:41.

controversial in the 50s and 60s? Yes. What would you come up against?

:38:42.:38:46.

I challenged the crowd. If I got somebody to fight me, a woman to

:38:47.:38:50.

come up andifying me, then I'd take her on. If I didn't, then I would do

:38:51.:38:56.

an exhibition with one of the boxers on the shows. We'd maybe do three or

:38:57.:39:02.

four shows a night. I did three seasons with the booth one in

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Cornwall and Devon and one in Yorkshire I went over to France and

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travelled in France for a season. I figure I must have done at least

:39:12.:39:17.

1,000 exhibition boxing matches as well as... The reputation of women

:39:18.:39:22.

boxers back then was very different to what it is today. How did you

:39:23.:39:29.

cope with that? Well, I mean, it got a lot of criticism. The papers were

:39:30.:39:33.

against us. The Board of Control wouldn't allow it. You just had to

:39:34.:39:41.

be fighting it all the time. Eventually I went to the States

:39:42.:39:46.

where it was more acceptable because there was quite a few girls training

:39:47.:39:52.

in gyms throughout the States, the small promoters would put the fights

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on. We heard, Nicola, one of your heroes is Muhammad Ali. You will

:39:59.:40:03.

love this. Barbara said he was training in one of the same gyms as

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you in Miami. Yes. All the great fighters trained in that gym. Chris

:40:11.:40:18.

put fight on every two weeks. Angelo was his trainer. We were good friend

:40:19.:40:22.

too right up to a couple of years ago when he died, you know. So it

:40:23.:40:31.

was more action over there. You were there when Nicola won Olympic Gold,

:40:32.:40:37.

weren't you, Barbara? I came over to London shech did erterrific in the

:40:38.:40:41.

Olympics. This must be a dream come true for you to see what Nicola's

:40:42.:40:45.

doing these days? Yes, it's developed to the point that it has.

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I think it has to go a lot further. Yeah. We'd like to see more weight

:40:50.:40:54.

classes for the girls in the Olympics because it's really not

:40:55.:40:58.

fair that some of them can't go in the Olympics because they can't get

:40:59.:41:03.

near the three weight classes they have. Do you follow that?

:41:04.:41:08.

Definitely. I used to box bantamweight. When the free Olympic

:41:09.:41:12.

weight classes came out I had to move down a weight division to go to

:41:13.:41:15.

the Olympics. It's quite tough if you are in the middle and you are

:41:16.:41:19.

too small to make the bigger weight and too big to make the smaller

:41:20.:41:24.

weight. Hopefully it's a matter of time before they change that. We

:41:25.:41:28.

have lovely footage of you Barbara training back in the day. Fantastic

:41:29.:41:33.

footage here. I mean, I think we know the answer already, could you

:41:34.:41:39.

still spar a bit? Well, a little bit. We've seen you. I've been out

:41:40.:41:47.

of the ring for over 50 years. I could throw a few punches. I love

:41:48.:41:52.

your earrings. Boxing gloves. I'll have to get some of them. Have a

:41:53.:41:56.

chat. Thank you for popping in. Lovely to meet you.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Your story is being told in the City

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of Culture in Hull? Hull is now the City of Culture, it's coming along

:42:10.:42:15.

good. They have got a play that interacts with my day and the

:42:16.:42:20.

present day, some women training in a gym they put on a show because the

:42:21.:42:29.

pub that the gym was in was about to close. They wanted to keep it open.

:42:30.:42:35.

So they put on a boxing show in it so it can raise money to keep the

:42:36.:42:40.

pub open. There you are. You can see that in Hull during the festival.

:42:41.:42:41.

Thank you. Maintaining an exact weight

:42:42.:42:45.

is a vital part of a boxer's life - go over the limit at the weigh

:42:46.:42:48.

in and you face disqualification. Miranda's met some more

:42:49.:42:51.

competitors who share that same focus and determination -

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but they aren't boxers. No, they are after the title

:42:54.:42:55.

of Pet Fit Club slimmer of the year. Overweight dogs and fat cats.

:42:56.:43:06.

Britain's pampered pets are piling on the pounds. Pet obesity is on the

:43:07.:43:13.

rise, one in three dogs and one in four cats in Britain is overweight.

:43:14.:43:18.

But there's a national competition to find the animal Slimmer of the

:43:19.:43:23.

Year. And, it's time for the annual weigh in. The This year, some of the

:43:24.:43:35.

most obese animals in the UK will be taking part in a six month weight

:43:36.:43:40.

loss programme before one of them is crowned winner of the Pet Fit Club.

:43:41.:43:46.

Since its launch in 2005 more than 100 animals have lost 68 stone

:43:47.:43:56.

between them. Pets like Mikey. They hail from all over the country, some

:43:57.:44:00.

of them have gathered here today in Derby for a photo shot to kick-start

:44:01.:44:08.

the competition. Competing in Pet Fit Club 2017, Diesel, the sta

:44:09.:44:14.

Staffordshire bull terrier. He loves scraps and stealing food from his

:44:15.:44:23.

owner's grandchildren. His weight: Lola eats too many carrots. Ideal

:44:24.:44:30.

weight, 12 lb. Actual weight 1 stone 2. Alfie the Beagle loves chips from

:44:31.:44:36.

the takeaway. Ideal weight 2 stone 12. Actual weight 4 stone 10. And

:44:37.:44:47.

Barnaby the cat so big he broke his cat carrier. Ideal weight 11l. His

:44:48.:45:01.

downfall are their owners, Deborah and Dave. He would sit next to the

:45:02.:45:06.

cooker looking at the oven because he knew there was something in the

:45:07.:45:09.

Oven. Beef joints. Chicken or anything. Looking at it. He would

:45:10.:45:14.

just sit there, quite patiently thinking - well, if I wait a little

:45:15.:45:18.

bit longer, mummy and daddy will give in and I will get my own way.

:45:19.:45:26.

Spoilt. So a very, very spoilt cat. That's not Barnaby's fault. That's

:45:27.:45:31.

the fault of us. That's true. When you are told that we're potentially

:45:32.:45:36.

putting him at risk by overfeeding him, with illnesses such as diabetes

:45:37.:45:41.

and heart problems, it struck a few heart strings with us, didn't it?

:45:42.:45:47.

Basically, we were putting him at risk from certain illness. We want

:45:48.:45:52.

him around for a lot longer. We want to enjoy him as much as he enjoys

:45:53.:45:54.

us, basically. So, yeah. As the portly pets line-up for the

:45:55.:46:10.

way in, how do you tell if your pet is overweight? Rather than worrying

:46:11.:46:14.

about the exact weight of your pet, if your body condition score is done

:46:15.:46:19.

instead, it sounds posh but is a simple way of looking at the shape

:46:20.:46:24.

of your pet. You want to see a nice waistline. Also, feel the ropes but

:46:25.:46:28.

don't see them. Any extra folds or fat rolls at the base of detail or

:46:29.:46:35.

around the neck are signs that they are over what they should be. -- at

:46:36.:46:42.

base of the tail. Human food can catch people out. You underestimate

:46:43.:46:47.

the number of calories in those foods and how different it is for

:46:48.:46:54.

our eating a biscuit compared to our pets. If we give our cat a tin of

:46:55.:47:00.

tuna, even a couple of times a week, it is like a human eating 35 chicken

:47:01.:47:05.

nuggets... You would not do it twice a week and expect to stay at a

:47:06.:47:10.

normal weight. Each of our contestants will now be given a

:47:11.:47:14.

tailored diet and exercise programme, and will go to a monthly

:47:15.:47:17.

weigh in. We will be back to see how they have got on!

:47:18.:47:24.

Alfie the Beagle joins us now with his owner, Emily. Emily, we are a

:47:25.:47:33.

month on. As far as the diet regime is concerned, what is it and how is

:47:34.:47:38.

he getting on? He is being fed a lot less than what I was feeding him. He

:47:39.:47:43.

has a new low-calorie food which makes him feel fuller compared to

:47:44.:47:47.

what I fed him before. He is on two small meals per day compared to one

:47:48.:47:52.

big meal. I was doing one long walk a day with him. Apparently that is

:47:53.:47:57.

just that he needs to be on six short bursts rather than long walks.

:47:58.:48:04.

Everyone in the family is taking him every ten minutes? Six walks is a

:48:05.:48:07.

lot but you are seeing results, is Alfie enjoying it and feeling better

:48:08.:48:11.

for it? Yes, you is loving it. He has got a lot more energy and is a

:48:12.:48:17.

lot more awake. He is a lot more alert. I really like him! He is

:48:18.:48:21.

really well natured. What a good lad! To give Alfie a bit of

:48:22.:48:26.

'thin-spiration', this is last year's winner Oscar before he went

:48:27.:48:30.

into the competition... Look at that! Here he is now with his owner,

:48:31.:48:39.

Karen. APPLAUSE My word! Award winner, Oscar by name

:48:40.:48:44.

and Oscar by nature! He is hardly recognisable. He is. It's hard to

:48:45.:48:52.

believe that he lost over a stone! Yes, 39% of his body weight. Go on,

:48:53.:48:57.

what happened previously? What have you done differently? He does not

:48:58.:49:01.

have a Sunday lunch any more... That is what dad used to do! But since

:49:02.:49:08.

then he has gone and so has mum! We do regular walks... 20 minute walks

:49:09.:49:21.

and he is down to ten minutes with that one. He walks for miles now...

:49:22.:49:28.

Uphill, downhill... Stairs... Alfie is having a little cough down there,

:49:29.:49:32.

he is all right. He is off his collar. If he wants to have a

:49:33.:49:37.

wander, you can. I think he is being a little too friendly! He has taken

:49:38.:49:43.

a shine to Oscar, he really likes him! Hydrotherapy was a big part?

:49:44.:49:47.

Yes, we did that on a weekly basis with Simon. Local to where we are.

:49:48.:49:53.

Apparently, for every minute that they are in the water is equivalent

:49:54.:49:58.

in muscles of a ten mile walk. You know all about this committee have a

:49:59.:50:03.

Pomeranian who likes a dip? -- you have a Pomeranian, Bailey? Yes. But

:50:04.:50:13.

even cuter after he has had a blow-dry! Post-swim, there you go!

:50:14.:50:20.

And David, we must mention your dog at this part, you been having

:50:21.:50:25.

hydrotherapy as well, here you are with him and Rob Brydon. If you zoom

:50:26.:50:29.

in you have a classic case of dogs looking like their owners! He's a

:50:30.:50:37.

lovely dog... Isn't he gorgeous? How long have you had him? Five years. I

:50:38.:50:42.

love him so much. The snorting made me think of him, he loves to snort.

:50:43.:50:49.

Anyway tissues? I probably feed him a different too much... It is hard,

:50:50.:50:55.

what they love more than anything is being fed! And Bielik human food...

:50:56.:51:03.

Well, good luck to Alfie, -- and they liked human food. Thank you to

:51:04.:51:09.

your wonderful children with nicknames that you have sent in,

:51:10.:51:16.

inspired by David's book. Annabel's son, Ralph, is also known as

:51:17.:51:23.

Ralph-asaurus, because his first proper sound was a raw, and he is

:51:24.:51:28.

two and a half years old. This is Lewis, who is the skinniest little

:51:29.:51:37.

thing but insists that he is called Muscles! Thank you for all of the

:51:38.:51:40.

photos that you sent in, sorry that we cannot show them all.

:51:41.:51:44.

In a moment Erasure will be performing a new song

:51:45.:51:47.

And another Nicola with her eyes on the prize tonight...

:51:48.:51:53.

Here's Nicola Sturgeon, leader of the SNP, explaining

:51:54.:52:00.

We have five other party leaders the chance speaking in their own words

:52:01.:52:06.

about their political roots and motivations. He is the leader of the

:52:07.:52:10.

Scottish National Party... -- here is the leader. I grew up in a

:52:11.:52:22.

working-class community in Ayrshire, I remember a childhood that was

:52:23.:52:26.

secure and very happy. When I was at school I was quite shy. My mum tells

:52:27.:52:30.

the story about my fifth birthday party when I sat under the table

:52:31.:52:34.

reading a book while everyone else played Ring Ring of roses! It was

:52:35.:52:42.

while I was at secondary school that I became interested in what was

:52:43.:52:46.

happening around me, this was in the 1980s when unemployment was

:52:47.:52:50.

sky-high. These were all things I could see having an effect on the

:52:51.:52:58.

community I was living in. I had the interests that other teenage girls

:52:59.:53:01.

would have had. I had posters on my wall of Wham and cadger. I had all

:53:02.:53:18.

of that and it gave way to my interests in politics. I was 16

:53:19.:53:23.

years old when I first joined the SNP. I campaigned for the local

:53:24.:53:28.

candidate in my constituency at the time, a wonderful lady called Kate

:53:29.:53:35.

all. I have wonderful memories of driving

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with her with a cigarette in one of her hands and the loudspeaker in the

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other! She has been a huge influence on my political life. At that stage

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there was never any expectation in my mind I would become a politician.

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At that point I was focused on passing my exams and getting to

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university, and becoming a lawyer. I came to Glasgow University in 1988

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to study law. I haven't been in the law school for a good few years. It

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brings back a lot of memories. I was first in my family to go to

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university, which was a big thing. To this day I have a great picture

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of me in my graduation gown and I remember being very proud of that

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day. Then, I worked in the community centre in Glasgow. It was social

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welfare, work housing, really helping people with debt problems in

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a community that had really high levels of poverty. The experience I

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had other law centre there, I carry that over into life as an elected

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politician. It wasn't until Scottish parliament was established that I

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saw a career in politics as something that was realistic. It was

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at that point I knew that I wanted to do that. I met Peter 20 years ago

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or more. We worked very closely together in the election campaign.

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That developed from there. He is the most calm and Zen like

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unflappable person you would ever meet.

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A bit more fiery, with the tendency to be hot-headed. Very good for me

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in the sense that he calms me down! No doubt it is different for women

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in politics. You are judged differently.

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Most recently, I had that meeting with the Prime Minister and the

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Daily Mail the next day is focusing on our legs! You can laugh at that,

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but there is a serious point there. If we are constantly reducing women,

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even a woman Prime Minister and First Minister, to their clothes,

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shoes or their legs, what message do we send to young women about how

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they are valued in society? Proud of what we have achieved but there is

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still a lot of work to do... Nicola Sturgeon there in her own words.

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Jeremy Corbyn will be here and made a 30th. -- on the 30th of May.

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We'll be hearing from the co-leader of the Green Party, Jonathan Bartley

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on Friday followed by the leaders of all the main parties

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A huge thank you to to David and Nicola for being with us tonight.

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David's new book 'The World's Worst Children 2' is out next Thursday.

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And Nicola's autobiography 'Believe' is out tomorrow.

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But right now - here with their new song

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'Love You to the Sky' from their brand new

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album 'World Be Gone', which is out this Friday...

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# And I want to climb inside your head

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# I love you to the sky, sky, sky, sky

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# You can be my summer romance lies, lies, lies

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# Know that I miss you baby, ooh woah

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# And you know that I'm laughing inside

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# And I want to climb inside your head

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# I love you to the sky, sky, sky, sky

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# Baby say it's me you're holding lies, lies, lies

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# I love you to the sky, sky, sky, sky

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# You can be my summer romance lies, lies, lies

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APPLAUSE CHEERING

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Hello, I'm Elaine Dunkley with your 90 second update.

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The Lib Dems launch their election manifesto - in a nightclub -

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