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Hello and welcome to the One Show with Alex Jones. And Matt Baker. We

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are nervous. Tonight's guest has his own minder. He sent us this message.

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You look after him because I know where you are, alright! Alright, no

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worries. We will. It is George Cole! APPLAUSE

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He is still looking after you now. Yeah. We know you have a heart of

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gold because he did go on to say this. My dear old King Cole, how are

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you? They caught me while I'm doing a bit of a New Tricks, a new show

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I'm in. When we started Minder, I have to tell everybody I was a huge

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fan of this man and it grew and grew all the time I worked with him. He

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was just brilliant. He was a wonderful actor and a really

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wonderful bloke and I love him dearly. Ah! George, you are on

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tonight to talk about your autobiography, which you have

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finally written at 88? -and-a-half! So thinking back to everything that

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you have done in your career. We know you for so much. How do you put

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Minder in context? Right at the top. Do you? Yeah. You can't do something

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for 107 performances unless you love it. Sure. It was wonderful. There's

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a whole chapter in the autobiography dedicated to Minder, so we will talk

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a bit about that later on. Yes. Alex is very talented. She read a lot of

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it on the running machine... This morning! She will tell you more

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about that. At the beginning of the year, you might remember that

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Richard III was found buried in a Leicester car park. Well, what we

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are about to show you goes further back. It is the discovery of a

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sarcophagus in Lincoln that's been buried for 1,000 years. We were

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there when it was opened for the very first time.

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This is Lincoln, famed for its gothic cathedral and 11th century

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castle. But archaeologists have discovered a church which is older

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than both and is one of the UK's most important historical finds. The

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church is thought to be 10th Century and was found with skeletons and a

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limestone sarcophagus. Today is the day they are planning to unearth the

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remains for the first time so they can start to figure out just who

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this person was. This is an amazing find. How did you come across it?

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The reason we are excavating this trench is to form a foundation for a

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lift shaft. The trench has opened a tiny window on a late Anglo Saxon

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church. Did you have no knowledge of this snnchts it is pure chance. The

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archaeologists have the Normans to think. When they came to build their

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castle, they cleared the area and in doing so, sealed the burials

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underground creating a time capsule. Seven skeletons have been taken away

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for testing. What do we know about them? There is a mixture of men,

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women and children. The burials are all in wooden coffins so these

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people were relatively important in their day. We make a trip down the

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hole so I can get a look at the sarcophagus. It is incredible. It is

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really beautiful. It is. Very nicely made. Also, you can see some of the

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tool marks of the mason who made this thing. That will give us a lot

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of information about the late Saxon stone industry which, at the moment,

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we know little about. Just how significant is this? Late Saxon

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stone sarcophagi are not something you come across very often at all.

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This is really unprecedented. After the scanning specialists have made a

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full 3D scan of the coffin, the team prepare to raise the lid. It is so

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close to lifting the lid. This is incredibly exciting. This is

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historical theatre and it is such a privilege to be here to witness it.

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The lid is cracked so it has to be taken out in three pieces. With the

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lid removed from the trench, finally the team get a first look at this

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1,000-year-old skeleton and they make a very unexpected discovery. We

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have shoes. Shoes were made of leather. The leather is terribly

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decayed and there is another preserved for us to see that they

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are stitched together, which is consistent with the date we are

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looking at. It means they weren't an ordinary person. They were either a

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member of the clergy, or a pilgrim, if not both. They were the people w

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afforded the right to be buried with some form of clothing. Next, a bone

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specialist examines the skeleton to determine what she can about who he

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or she was. What I have seen is that it's possibly a very young

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individual. Really? Maybe early 20s. That is from the pelvic area. It

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seems it is an adult male, early 20s. What would happen next? I need

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to do a full analysis and we will be doing carbon and nitrogen isotope

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analysis to construct the diet to get an idea of what type of food

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they were eating at that point. Right. After 14 months of

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excavating, the team here are one step closer to finding out exactly

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who this mystery man was. Leicester may have its King in a car park, but

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Lincoln has its cleric in a courtyard.

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What a moment to witness. Incredible moment. We've got shoes! Can you put

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this into context? The Normans came in, they built the castle. What was

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there beforehand? What was Lincoln like the time when this person was

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alive? Under the Romans, it would have been a fortified city. When the

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Romans leave, it is a smaller settlement until it has a

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resurgence, you have the Vikings around, they like some of the old

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Roman fortifications. It becomes a much bigger urban centre, a trade

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centre, both regionally and nationally. There's lots of

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agriculture surrounding it. OK. A good place to go shopping? A very

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good place to go shopping! How often then are sarcophagi found? This is

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very rare. I've been assured that in terms of undisturbed sarcophagi,

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this stands on its own. I don't know of any other examples. There has

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been a handful in the area that Lincoln is in. They are really

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broken up. This is one of a kind to find one in tact like this.

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Initially, the hopes were that it may have been a King. You talked

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about the fact that it was a member of the clergy. Any more light being

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shed on this, of who he was? High status. This is an area of Lincoln

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where there were rich people, these were the who's who of Lincoln. Can

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you tell that by his shoes? Yes, the shoes, as you saw, have religious

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significance. I see. The fact you will be in a limestone sarcophagus,

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this kind of - it is almost harking back to Roman burials. This is

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someone who wanted to be remembered, someone of real status. Somebody

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with a minder, perhaps? Yes. Maybe. George, what do you reckon? What

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about the members of the public, like us, can we visit this

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sarcophagus? This is how it came about - this was a regeneration.

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They had no idea they were going to find this. They had no idea there

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was a church underneath. They have been finding all this stuff and when

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it is finished, this will go on display at Lincoln Castle so

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everyone will be able to see this person. Thank you ever so much. What

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a thing to have experienced. A remarkable moment. Now, recently,

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Gloria Hunniford met two One Show viewers who are angry with the cost

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of their holiday. Who wouldn't be at a price of HE MUMBLES Sorry? Who

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wouldn't be angry if their holiday costs HE MUMBLES What you saying,

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Matt? Gloria will explain. Searching for a holiday online can

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be frustrating. Sometimes you want someone else to get the deal for

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you. You may like to try a company like this, Sunsave, after all they

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do promise to try and get you the best possible price and they also

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guarantee an exceptional level of service. What could go wrong? Dave

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was one of a number of viewers who e-mailed us about Sunsave. All were

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complaining about two big problems. Firstly, when you book a holiday,

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you think you know the total price. When you check your bank account, a

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number of transactions appear and the total cost is much higher.

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Secondly, once you have paid the money, it doesn't turn out to be the

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holiday you were expecting. This year, Dave booked a holiday with

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Sunsave to Turkey for 12 days. I went on to the Sunsave website,

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chose the flights, the accommodation and it came to a full price of ?380.

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The next day, an adviser contacted me. She said that the price had

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increased slightly. It would be with two different airlines, one going

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out which was charged in pounds and the other one, which would be

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charged in euros. What amount was that she was quoting? ?462. I went

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on to the bank account the next day to find out that three different

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payments had come out. One to the first airline for ?135, one to the

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other airline for ?255, and one to Sunsave for ?305. I was not amused

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by. Dave was charged a total of ?695 for his holiday. That's ?233 more

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than he thought. So Dave queried the price and requested a recording of

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the phone call in which he confirmed his booking. This is something any

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disgruntled customer can do. It works out, everything included, the

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total is... That is interesting. I hear sterling very clearly and there

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was a mumble about euros, it wasn't clear to me anyway. I asked her

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again what the total price was, it was still that ?421 for the full

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holiday. Let's have a listen. That's what... ? The total in sterling for

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everything, with the one bag, two transfers and everything... Is 421

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and twopence. That's for the flights, for the baggage... The

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whole holiday. Very clearly in that conversation. She said the total is

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that. We received other complaints where the price increase was

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confusing. One nearly ?600 more than the customer was expecting to pay

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and more than double the original online quote. People were also

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getting in touch with West Yorkshire Trading Standards. Margaret made it

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clear she needed disabled facilities for her husband. When we went on

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holiday, the wheelchair wouldn't fit in the room. We looked out on the

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balcony, there must have been 100 steps to the pool. It were like, "We

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can't stay here." I rang her immediately and she said, "No, you

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will have to wait three days. We can't do anything at the moment." I

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said, "Get us flights back then. " If you want one back, you will have

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to do it yourself. Here is some of Margaret's conversation on the

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phone. He has to take one with him. When he takes his leg off, he needs

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to get out of bed into toilet, so he needs his wheelchair. Alright, I

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see. I will put a note... But that will be fine. West Yorkshire Trading

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Standards say they have been working with Sunsave to improve its

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services. They got involved just before Dave and Margaret booked

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their holidays. They say that since then, they have seen an improvement

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but will be continuing to work with them. So what kind of service should

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you expect when booking a holiday like this online? Before you confirm

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that booking, I would always check exactly what are you going to be

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charging me and if they tell you it is going to be various separate

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amounts in separate transactions start querying why. Most agents will

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charge you one amount even though they are piecing it together and so

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to see transactions coming through in different currencies for each

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element on somebody's card is unusual. Most companies do not work

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in that manner. Sunsave told us they underwent a change of ownership in

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September 2013 and customers will now receive e-mail confirmation of

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their booking and one single receipt for their transaction. Dave and

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Margaret have been fully compensated for their holiday.

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Thank you, Gloria. George, let's talk about your autobiography. You

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were saying it's been a labour of love. It's taken you the best part

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of a year to write it. It started with you as a young boy in London.

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How then does a working-class London boy become an actor? Tell us the

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story. Well, I went to a Surrey Council School in Morden. From the

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age of 12, you were allowed to do a job either in the morning, at the

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crack of dawn, or in the evening, after you finished school. And I got

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a job selling newspapers, and delivering papers, at the end of

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every day. I would take home with me one of each of the evening

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newspapers, the evening news, the Start and the Standard. And then,

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when I left school, you had to go into the headmaster's study and meet

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someone from the board of trade. And I went in and they said, what do you

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want to do? I said, I want to go on stage. And the headmaster said, get

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out, go to the back of the queue. So, I went to the back of the queue,

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and by the time I got to the head of the queue, they did not even ask me

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what I wanted to do. The man from the Ministry of Labour said, go to

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the butchers in Morden, Monday morning, eight o'clock, they need an

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errand boy and a bike. I went home and again read these three papers,

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and they are jumping out at me was an advertisement which said, small

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boy wanted for musical show. And that was it. I was going to say,

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where does Alastair coming to all of this? Funny thing was, the first

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time I became aware of him was when I went to Rosehill in Morden, and

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there was a film on called something afloat, in which he played a Genie

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in a bottle, with the crazy gang, and it was wonderful. But he was so

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good and so fascinating, I wanted to know what his name was. I was still

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sitting there reading the end credits when everybody else had

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gone. Alastair Sim, it sounded such a strange name. Let's have a little

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look at you in St Trinian's. What on earth are you doing here? I do not

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want anybody to see me! There is something going on in this joint you

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ought to know about. It is this letter, I opened it this afternoon,

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posted in the school box by one of your mistresses. And the book is

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called The World Was My Lobster, and there is a picture of you on the

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cover. Where did that phrase come from? Well, my eldest son was a

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script writer, he came to have dinner with us one night and said, I

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heard the most wonderful line in a pub today, and he said, it is

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straight out of Minder. I said, what was it? And he said, the older man

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said to the younger one, I am telling you, my son, the world is

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your lobster. I took out my wallet, took out ?25, gave it to my son, and

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I said, that is mine. Did you know at that stage that that was what you

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are going to call your autobiography? No. And I said, don't

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give that to anyone else at all. And so I put it to the back of my mind

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and I sat on it for about two years, and then suddenly, we had a boxing

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episode, and in the dressing room afterwards, when I went to see

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Terry, his face was pouring with blood and he was moaning and I said,

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stop worrying, Terry. From now on, the world is your lobster. I have a

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feeling that the person who said that either did not know the

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original or did not like oysters. But a few months later, the man who

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created the series said to me, I hear I owe you ?12 50 people I said,

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what do you mean? I thought it was the best line ever written!

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George's is out now. It is full of stories, including about his first

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breakthrough role, as an evacuee, when he was 15 while George was

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telling this story, millions of children were getting evacuated for

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real. Ruth Goodman has met one of those children. From Victorian

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times, the General Steam Navigation Company? offered paddle steamers as

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a fashionable way to cross the Channel as well as to cruise the

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River Thames. But in 1939, with the outbreak of war, these paddle

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steamers would have a dramatic reinvention. In Dagenham, they took

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part in Operation Pied Piper, evacuating children to the

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countryside. On the same day that Hitler invaded Poland, thousands of

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children from nearby Gravesend and Tilbury gathered here at the Ford

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motor company jetty in Dagenham. They stepped aboard paddle steamers

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and said goodbye to their families, with no idea of where they were

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going. Children who came here and went off on the paddle steamers were

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the only ones who used this mode of transport. Some of them may never

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have seen one before, so the children were just going on a voyage

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into the unknown. One of the workers on the docks that morning was Walter

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Muir. He had his camera with him and took photographs of the

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extraordinary scene taking place in front of him. His images give a real

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sense of the scale of the Exodus. Over three days, nearly 17,000

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children were evacuated by eight paddle steamers heading to Yarmouth,

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Lowestoft and Felixstowe. 84-year-old Thomas Burt was just ten

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when he walked to the docks with his brother Ernest from Easterbrook

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School, three miles away. I do not think I had ever been up at that

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hour before. We traipsed along in one long convoy, escorted by the

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teachers. I think perhaps there was a policeman at the front of the

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column, because they needed to stop traffic and whatever. Thomas had no

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idea that there was a photographer there that day, and has never seen

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the photographs. Actually, we have something we thought you might like

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to have a look at. Believe it or not, the day you were getting on

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that boat, somebody was taking photographs. It was amazing to watch

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Thomas transported back to that frosty September morning at the

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jetty. There are the mothers with their children. That is terrific . I

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might be in one or two of those. I remember boarding that boat. It was

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an adventure. I was too busy to cry. Too busy taking it all in. You see,

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they are not large, but it was to me. It was an oceangoing liner! And

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there is the gang planks. I remember on the boat, leaning over the

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handrail most of the time. Oh, that is one of them, I wonder which one

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that is. And there is another one. Queen Of The Channel, that was one.

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That was not the only contribution to the war effort made by the paddle

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steamers of the General Steam Navigation Company?. Most of them

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then were involved in another if evacuation in June 1940, taking part

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in Dunkirk. So, they played quite a significant role within the social

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history of the war. A few months after Dunkirk, Dagenham and London

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were hit hard by bombs . Thomas and Ernest were in the relative safety

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of the countryside, but they got news that a bomb had landed on their

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parents was no street as they took cover in their Anderson shelter. The

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bomb probably hit the shelter of the people next door, but three children

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were killed instantly. The mother died two days later. Our shelter had

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been lifted out of the ground, laying on its side. Had we been in

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there, perhaps one or two of us would have been killed. At the end

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of the walk the fate of the paddle steamers had also been hit. One of

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them was destroyed, others were damaged. Those that remained

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returned to normal service. The world had changed, and trips by

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paddle steamer no longer had the same image. By the 1970s, the steam

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company had closed. Today, not a single one of these steamers is on

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the water. The photographs, however, remain a real testament to the lives

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saved. Remarkable images. To overcome to

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cry, those were his words. They, we have a very special One Show,

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because we are going to be celebrating the 40th anniversary of

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That's Life. We will be joined by some familiar faces, and Esther

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herself will be presenting the show. We want you to tell us about some

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things you have seen recently which have made you laugh, or if somebody

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who has made you furious or something. Tell us about it. We want

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to see badly worded adverts, spelling mistakes, talented pets,

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funny shaped beds, we will have it all. And if you have got any strange

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musical instruments which you have invented, even better. Anyway,

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basically, if it is the kind of thing you have been dying to tell

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the world about, if only they brought back That's Life. That is

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exactly what we are doing, we are bringing back That's Life. George is

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over the moon about that! Here is how you get in touch in true That's

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Life fashion. The address is... Thanks. You can use e-mail if you

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want but this is a nostalgic show, so we would like some proper

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letters, please. Now, it is time to join Iwan Thomas for some DIY with a

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difference. Smoo Cave in Durness is one of

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Scotland's best kept secrets. With Chambers only accessible by boat, it

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is one of Scotland's greatest natural wonders. But this normally

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peaceful place has some industrial invaders. Restoration works are

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currently under way to stop the cave from crumbling down, and to preserve

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this treasured area. The good news is that I am getting to meet some of

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the team to see the work they are doing. The bad news, apparently they

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want me to help, which means I have got to go up there. Before I get to

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work on the outside, I want to check out the inside of the cave to see

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what makes it such a special place. Smoo Cave tour guide: Has worked at

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the cave for 26 years. There we go, into the cave. It is a bit of an

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adventure just getting to the adventure, if that makes sense! Wow!

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It is huge! That is beautiful. Smoo Cave has a complex make-up. It has

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this spectacular waterfall, several chambers and the largest entrance to

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a C cave anywhere in the UK. It is also the only British cavern where a

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sea water cave joins a freshwater cave. Any interesting, famous

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visitors who have come here? In a team 14, Sir Walter Scott stood

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right where you are. And he said there were paintings inside the

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cave. I have searched every square inch of it and I cannot find any

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paintings. -- in 1814. But that is a penicillin bacteria, it is not a

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Neolithic venting! Next, I am joined by an engineer and geologist who

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explains what is going on. Why is this work necessary? It is a visitor

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attraction, and there have been some blocks falling down, and we do not

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want those to land on anybody's head. We are putting some netting in

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to help stabilise that, and removing any of the box which look like they

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might be loose at the moment. Was now time for me to get to work. What

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is this netting actually doing, simply stopping the rocks? Yes, and

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once we have taken the loose rocks away, this will hold everything in

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place. Shall I cleared the pathway? That's it. Are you going to put this

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last plate on? Yes, these are the bankers. These will be drilled four

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metres into solid rock. -- the anchors. That is a huge spanner.

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It is days like this that I love The One Show. I am so delighted this

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work is getting done. It is a great feeling of relief, knowing you do

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not have to worry about someone getting injured. The big thank you

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to Iwan Thomas. George, thank you so much for your company this evening.

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George's autobiography is out now. And tomorrow, Adam Hills, Dr Who's

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Jenna Coleman and John Hurt are in the studio. See you tomorrow.

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