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$:/STARTFEED. Hello. Welcome to the One Show with Alex Jones. And Matt

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Baker. It's easy to imagine if our three guests weren't here they

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would be on their own having a brilliant night in. Feathers might

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just fly as the evening went on. Please welcome Pauline Quirke,

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Linda Robson and Lesley Joseph. APPLAUSE

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It's lovely to see you. It's not true that you are all sick of the

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sight of each other now? Maybe! know what, restarted rehearsals on

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Monday and we are not getting a lot done, because we're doing too much

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rabbiting. We had to say to the director, "Where there's a gap say

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something." Coming up the stairs it was just talking. We are still

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talking when we get here. It's lovely. You've all gone off to do

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separate projects, but who's best in keeping in touch? Linda and I

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have worked together a lot since we finished. Some people say too much.

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Probably, yes. She is mad about the old Twitter business now. Are you

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one of them? I've got 10,000 followers. It was 12,000. It's

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12,000. Matt's not keen on it. I was going to talk about the title

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sequence, which has to be one of the most memorable especially from

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our growing up, but so many people have seen your childhood

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photographs. I know, yeah. Look, there we are. Arh. Bless us. Lovely.

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I love the hair cut. When they did the titles they were talking about

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using our daughters, but they said they didn't look enough like us, so

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they cast two little girls who looked like us. That was for the

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end. You've been friends for 46 years? We were - I'm 54 this year

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and Linda is 72. We were at primary school together. It's 45 years in

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the business this year. So a long time. It's strange when I first met

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these two to work with them, they'd known each other all their lives.

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We went to the Ritz and you were wearing trainers. Wait a minute.

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It's absolutely true. I was so scared. We didn't think I would get

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in. We got in and we had champagne and you put water in it. They

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bought us this expensive champagne over, pink. The wine waiter was

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devastated because we poured Perrier water in it. It sounds like

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an episode of Birds. It's wasted on us. I think I had to finish all of

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this. You are back with a stage show which we'll talk about later

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and the family is extended. It is. Your son is part of the cast and

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he's here tonight. I bet his mum's gorgeous. What a good-looking lad!

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We'll find out where you left the story, but we'll remind ourselves

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of the last episode ten years ago. Oh, my God! Oh, no! Oh, yes. Shot

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out quicker than... It's two fingers up to the NHS. Hello

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beautiful. Oh, my God, get this child away from me before I get mad

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cow disease. APPLAUSE

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This is the weird thing, we did over 100 episodes and I do not

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remember anything about that episode. I think I can remember

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that green top. I remember giving birth in the stable, but I can't

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remember the sex of the child until we did the stage show. It's a boy.

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You had a different reaction there. Also tonight, in honour of our

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guests, whose characters lived next door to each other, we want you to

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take a photograph of yourself and your neighbour, so send it with

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send it in. If you've never said hello before, well, now's your

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chance. We'll reveal the story of how this enormous photograph was

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taken. Go, on Dave. We believe this is the world's largest-ever

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Panorama and there's quite a story to tell. Of the many places hit in

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the recent floods, an unexpected casualty was an inkent bridge in

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Somerset called the Tarr Steps. It was constructed from huge stones

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laid hundreds of years ago, but it was still torn apart. Here's Matt.

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Around us is Exmoor and running through is the river. Going across

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the river used to be the Tarr Steps, an ancient stone-slab bridge. I say

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used to, because on 23rd December last year the river smashed a hole

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in here. The water would have been up to here. I wouldn't have been

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here. It would have been foolish. The damage that did to the Tarr

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Steps is plain to see. Massive slabs carried all the way down the

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river. No, somebody's got to put it back together. It's a bit like

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jenga. That task has fallen to Kenny Higgins, who with his team,

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has been working around the clock to put the Tarr Steps back together

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again. What we will do initially is salvage all the stones and set them

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to one side and identify them. Find all the pier stones and where they

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originated and we'll re-install the actual stop slabs. You've got the

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pier stones which are the uprights and then the slab stones sitting on

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top of those. How do you know where they go? We have a file, which has

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a lot of specifications and details on the individual stones. There's

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photographs. Some have a chip on one corner, maybe a slight crack

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and we use that to move the slabs. We get them in. No one knows when

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the bridge was built. Some believe it's 3,000 years old, but it's most

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likely to have been constructed 500 to 600 years ago. Personally, I

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like the local legend which says it was built by the devil to win a bet.

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A lot of people will look and think it's a pile of stones, why should

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we bother putting it back the way it was? It's very, very unusual.

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It's unique. A claper bridge is basically stones laid across a

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river. They're not in mortar together or fixed together, but

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it's very different to all the other bridges, because it's much,

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much bigger. It has 17 spans, rather than one or two. It's an

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ancient monument, so it's legally protected. There's a duty to repair

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and people feel strongly about the Tarr Steps. People have family

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memories of coming here perhaps when they were children and it's in

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the national park and it's beautiful and it's probably one of

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the most iconic sights on Exmoor. To complete the work, Kenny has had

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to bring in a specialist piece of equipment. A first inspection may

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look like Kenny and the boys are inflating some kind of inflatable,

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but no, this is a boomer to go across like a dam and it unfurls

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like a frog's tongue to divert the flow of the river away from the bit

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that they want to work on. Bearing in mind this has been around for

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centuries, do you look and think amazing, so long ago, they got it

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right really? Absolutely. The privileges we have of using the

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heavy machinery to lift these things and what did they have? I'm

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not opposed to modern structures, but this thing does the job. It's a

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damn sight cheaper than building in concrete. You get satisfaction of

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doing something like this. By the time we have finished we have

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reconstructed the Tarr Steps. Within a week, the last slab was

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put in place. The Tarr Steps were now back to as they were, to be

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peshed, but more importantly, -- appreciated, but more importantly

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used as an important bridge. What a bridge that is. Very proud. You

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were saying, that you've been spending some time down in the West

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Country, Pauline? Would you say it's your favourite place? I loved

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it. I've been filming down there for three months. I've never been

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to that part of the world before, I'm ashamed to say. Lime Regis and

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all the coast and I absolutely loved it. Really did. What a

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beautiful part of the world. What were you filming? It's called

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Broadchurch. It's a drama for ITV beginning next month. We are there

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from August up to December. You had a bit of time to enjoy the place?

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was staying right on the beach. Lovely. Girls, do you enjoy

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holidaying in Britain? I do. I love it down there, but I learnt to swim

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in Weymouth and I used to go to the beach with my parents. We always

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went down to Devon and Cornwall and I love it. There is a theatre in

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Cornwall, which is right on the cliff. I played there. There were

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storms and lightning. It's fantastic. I absolutely love it.

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you go on holiday together then, girls? No. No. No! We spent 17

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weeks together last year. It's nice to get away. Being on tour is like

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being on holiday. We are in hotels or digs or cottages. When we went

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to L and Berlin and Majorca. That was all together on the series.

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think it would put an end to the friendship! We have a nice time. We

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went to Bath last year. That's the first time I've ever been and I

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absolutely loved it. Beautiful place. You were there for Christmas.

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The Roman baths. Shut up, Linda! They're only on for an hour!

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hasn't mentioned the granddaughter yet. That's coming up. We look

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forward to that. In 1993 Kate Hoey confirmed what we all thought that

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the BT Tower didn't exist, but as we discovered up until then it was

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supposed to be a secret, despite having had five million visitors.

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Opened in 1965, the Post Office Tower was Britain's tallest

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building for the following 15 years. Despite being some 620 feet high,

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its looming presence was expected to go unnoticed. Because, due to

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the role it played in beaming sil defence messages across the nation,

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-- civil defence messages across the nation, it was protected by the

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Government. Today, it's not the case that it's illegal to take

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photographs, and I'm on a mission to discover a fresh angle on

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London's original supertower. And find the photographic beauty in the

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detail. It was a war photographer, Robert Capper who said if your

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photographs aren't good enough, you're not good enough. That

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applies perfectly here. Looking straight up, it's not the most

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comfortable position to take photographs from, but all of the

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surrounding buildings create this amazing pattern of lines that

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converge on the very top of the tower. And zooming in reveals a

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telling detail. The circular shape of the tower, which was used to

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give it the strength to withstand the force of an indirect nuclear

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blast. But, you can't fully appreciate the tower from down here.

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I'm giving most of the 842 steps a miss. -- 843 steps a miss.? What is

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one of fastest lives in Europe. -- in what is one of the fastest lifts

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in Europe. But even this can only take us so far. 36th floor. Where

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we're going it's a last set of stairs, a ladder and through the

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air conditioning room. I think we're nearly there, before one last

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climb to freedom. No now, that is what you call a view -- now, that

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is what you call a view and when this was first built it needed to

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be. The tower was one of many of a network designed to carry phone

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calls and sing nals via microwave radio links across the -- signals

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via microwave radio links across the UK. Each needed a clear line of

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sight to the next tower in the chain. Today the Post Office Tower

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is the BT Tower and the microwave dishes that did encircle this

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entire floor has been replaced by a modern network of fibre optic

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cables and they're buried in the ground, but the unparalleled pan

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rammic vistas it offers over the capital remain. Back in 1965, all

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of this could have been yours for the grand admission fee of just

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four shillings. More than one million people went to see the view

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during the first year of operation. London had never had a view like

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this before. And neither had they had this particular dining

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revolution, a rotating restaurant floor, that having been tested for

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smoothness in an aircraft hanger by pouring cups of tea, offered diners

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a complete view of the capital in Minutes. Here it would seem the

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sky's really the limit. Sadly, the public viewing galleries and

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restaurant are no more, but the floor did still turn. To capture a

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sense of that 1960's glamour, we've We should get our own panoramic

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shot in no time. It is not every day that you get to use a landmark

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building as your very own motorised panoramic tripod and this for me is

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the beauty in the detail of the BT Tower. I can't help thinking that

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we could do better though. Don't put yourself down, I thought

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it was a lovely photographs. This is a trip down memory lane. You

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won't reminiscing about having lunch there? We got taken there for

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lunch to the BT Tower and then we went to a pantomime in the West End

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so it was quite an exciting days. It goes round reduce lonely. It is

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good because you can wait until you pass the toilet to get us. -- it

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goes round very slowly. We sort where you left us ten years ago in

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Birds of a Feather so bring us up to date. I am in a North people's

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home. But...! -- in an old people's home. Turn your hearing aid up!

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your character is? Obviously! You have to come and see the show but

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rest assured, the eyelashes are still on and the skirts are even

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shorter. I have not seen them for how many years? Ten years.

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finished in 1999 so it is 14 years since the television series

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finished. And what about you? are still living Together, Sharon

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and Tracey. Other men still in jail? They are out. They do get

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mentioned a lot but you do not see them. Tracey and Daryl are not

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together any more, they had a bitter a.. Her son lives in

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Australia and Travis, the one she gave birth to in the stable, he is

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in the show, played by our son's, they share the part. How is it

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working with your mum? Which one? It is like having three! No, it is

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really good. Is she very demanding? She is sitting at there. You can be

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honest. In the interval, we have to make cups of coffee and make sure

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it is cool enough for them when they get us. We have got them well-

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trained. It has been lovely. It was always like a family. Now to have

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the two boys there, it feels even more like family. We have various

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rituals that keep grubbing before we come on stage. I don't know how

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they got to be what they are -- keep growing. Is always has to say

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the same at every night. He said donkey once and now we have to say

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that every night. We do pelvic thrusts, we grab hands... People

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are having their tea at home! Let's keep something private! We put to

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the cameras into rehearsal. Let's What are you giving me evils for?

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You had better not go near the windows with that, the paparazzi

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are outside and they offered me 50 quid to dish the dirt on new. I

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told them to get lost. That stuff is worth at least a grand. After

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the Leveson Inquiry, I did not think this was allowed. A suppose

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it is inevitable. A young glamourous woman involved in an

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unexplained death. What young glamourous woman? You?! Brilliant!

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It is just like you are having the same conversation. Your editors

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have been very kind to us. We did not merit any of the lines! And you

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had your script in your hand! it shot in front of a live studio

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audience, Birds of a Feather? Is it very similar to how you would

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do it in the studio? No. In the theatre, sometimes things have

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happened like we have forgotten our lines and we stopped for five

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minutes while we giggle, but in the studio it has to be quite precise,

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with the lives. Thinking through the camera to about 12 million

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people. It is very different. first night was absolutely terrible.

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We got to the second half and we said one line three times. Then we

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kept going round in circles. In the end I just said, I haven't got a

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clue what to say next and the stage manager gave us the next line. We

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were so scared. DU at lib? No. Only when things go wrong. -- Do you ad

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lib? We discovered last year on tour that when it does go wrong,

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and that got less and less as the weeks went on, the other two are

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there for the people who has gone wrong. We have so much history.

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can see the panic in their lives. There is one line that Pauline has

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and I can see the panic! Sometimes the audience get it and sometimes

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they don't. Are you wearing leopardskin? Yes, I am. The shorter

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but you have ever seen in your life. And the high heels. I remember it

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very well from my younger days. A did you have a crush on her? I

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think a lot of us did! I can feel the electricity. Can you? The Birds

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of a Feather tour starts next Tuesday in Coventry.

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Earlier on today we asked ourselves if it was too shameful to show a

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bird film with the girls from Birds In the animal kingdom, it is

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generally accepted that it is the male of the species that rules the

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roost, yet on the highest peaks of the cane crops national park there

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is a bird whether traditional roles are reversed and it is the girls

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leaving the boys holding the babies, and that Birt is the -- that bird

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is the dotterel. They belong to the plover family and come here in the

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spring in order to breed. Kathy from Scottish National Heritage has

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brought along her expert tracker Nelson. I will need his keen eyes

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in this weather if I will have a chance of finding the dotterel.

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What is it that is so special about the tops of the mountains in the

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Cairngorms? It is adamant landscape from the Ice Age. Not quite but

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very close to being glacial. Not many predators up there. So they

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have less chance of being killed when they are breeding in this

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hostile environments. What are the chances? It is a difficult boat to

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find. We are probably going to be the ones that find it harder than

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they are -- it is a difficult bird to find! The top of the Cairngorms

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is more than 1,000 metres above sea level. What was rain at the bottom

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is falling as snow on the summit. Searching in these conditions is

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going to be task. -- toughed. Thankfully after three hours, the

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clouds lift but we were still not having much luck. Looking for the

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dotterel is trying to find a needle in an enormous haystack. We are

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Have a look at this. The mountain crane fly. That is food for the

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dotterel and a really good sign that we might just find the bird.

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After another four hours of searching, it is our expert Nelson

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who finally senses something in the I can't believe it! We have got a

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pair of dotterel ats. You can see the difference in their feathers

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and the size. She is the one in front and he is the one that is

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following. In almost every other bird, it is the male that is the

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show will. Why it is the role reversed with this one? You will

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have heard of polygamy, where a man takes several wives. This is the

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opposite. Polly Andre. Where a female will mate with several males.

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She mates with one male and produces a clutch for him, his

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chicks, but she then mates with another male and possibly a third

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and possibly even a fourth, so she literally doesn't have all of her

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eggs in one basket. Leaving de male in charge of rearing, the scheme

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are his three to find new mates and lay more eggs. These birds have

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developed this strategy to allow as many chicks as possible to

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successfully fled during the short summer breeding season. --

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successfully breed. That his courtship behaviour. That is lovely.

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The male is chasing the female. looks as if he wants to mate with

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her. They are in a difficult phase, do you want to be with me?

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Courtship behaviour is a great sign. The Scottish titles are the

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dotterel stronghold -- Scottish Highlands. Let's hope this couple

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of successful and the male turns out to be a devoted father. What a

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fascinating life style and what a treat to finally find the

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If the dotterel is the Dorien of the bird world, who are the Sharon

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and Tracey? Yes, very decorative, quantitative with men, the dotterel.

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She will fly all the way to Norway and leave the men with the babies!

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We have a sparrowhawk, bossy, controlling. Females are much

:27:20.:27:25.

larger than the male but particularly the sparrowhawk. She

:27:25.:27:31.

needs to be big and put a lot of weight on to bring up their chicks.

:27:31.:27:39.

Or you are not saying that Linda is big. No! The male is much smaller

:27:39.:27:46.

and more agile so they can go so the smaller birds. Definitely the

:27:46.:27:50.

females are bossing the males in the sparrow world. We thought long

:27:50.:28:00.
:28:00.:28:02.

and hard about Sharon with the cuckoos. Taking it easy, letting

:28:02.:28:06.

everybody else take the strain, the cuckoo is well known in the natural

:28:06.:28:10.

world. They come from Africa, they will breed in the spring, the

:28:10.:28:16.

female cuckoo was said there and she will look for a nest, she will

:28:16.:28:24.

go him, lay one holes her own eggs inside the nest. Then the chick

:28:24.:28:28.

were oust the chicks of the warblers have. That is the sum

:28:28.:28:34.

total of the cuckoo's involvement. Nice! I think I did best out of the

:28:34.:28:41.

three of us! Sparrowhawk is all right! You have some other

:28:41.:28:51.
:28:51.:28:53.

examples? Yes, a bossy females. The rain. -- wren. The theme are just

:28:53.:28:59.

sits and watches what the male makes their nest -- the female just

:28:59.:29:05.

sits and watches. If she does not like it, she will walk away. The

:29:05.:29:10.

male will make up to seven nests. In this case, the female is happy

:29:10.:29:16.

enough. That is one of my favourites. We have pigeons in the

:29:16.:29:22.

rehearsal room. We can hear them in the chimney breast. A sudden you

:29:22.:29:32.
:29:32.:29:33.

realise I have never seen a baby pigeon. They're squabs. They can

:29:33.:29:36.

meet and greet any month of the year, they do not have a specific

:29:36.:29:44.

breeding season. And I have never seen a grown-up sparrow. Because

:29:44.:29:50.

they are hidden away. Do you think sparrows are baby pigeons? How can

:29:50.:29:57.

I put this? No. We should be celebrating a 62-year-

:29:57.:30:04.

old's birthday. Yes, the oldest boat in the northern hemisphere. An

:30:04.:30:14.
:30:14.:30:14.

albatross in the end all -- Northam R picker Lago of Hawaii. It was

:30:14.:30:22.

ringed as a five-year-old in 1956. All albatrosses are monogamous.

:30:22.:30:26.

Wisdom has had several partners because she is so old. She has

:30:26.:30:33.

probably raised 32 chicks fourth dog that his footage they specially

:30:33.:30:43.
:30:43.:30:49.

shot for the One Show full of dog And when it is five or 62, it looks

:30:49.:30:55.

exactly the same, they do not have the problem of ageing! It will

:30:55.:31:05.
:31:05.:31:13.

carry on and carry on. Looking good $:/STARTFEED. The retirement age is

:31:13.:31:18.

rising and by 2026 it's planned to go up to 67 for both men and women.

:31:18.:31:23.

What happens when you get to call it a day at work. As we discover,

:31:23.:31:27.

things could be very different from what we're pecting. Retirement,

:31:27.:31:31.

it's the time of life when you could put your feet up, or spend

:31:31.:31:37.

more time doing the things you love. But young people today, they don't

:31:37.:31:40.

do jobs for life and their works pensions aren't as secure or

:31:41.:31:47.

generous. So, is retirement for them just a fantasy? 28-year-old

:31:47.:31:52.

Florence is a PR consultant living in London. I don't have any money

:31:52.:31:55.

or savings. Pension savings has fallen across all age groups with

:31:55.:32:00.

11 million of us not saving enough for our retirement. The age group

:32:00.:32:06.

saving the least are those aged 22 to 29. I like two to three holidays

:32:06.:32:11.

a year and love going out for dinner with my friends. Florence

:32:11.:32:16.

still knows what she wants. I would like to have around �30 a year when

:32:16.:32:22.

I retire. I would like to live in a two-bedroom cottage in a nice

:32:22.:32:28.

village. She earns under the average salary, but doesn't save a

:32:28.:32:34.

penny. We asked her to keep a diary and I'm bringing Sarah pen nels

:32:34.:32:43.

along to -- Pennells along to see. I went to a gallery and out for

:32:43.:32:52.

dinner. It wasn't expensive. What's that? Festival tickets. �32 on food.

:32:52.:32:56.

You are looking on banking on it never raining. What would you cut?

:32:56.:33:02.

Maybe a lit bit. There's barely any there. Whether you want savings for

:33:02.:33:07.

a deposit on a house or retirement, put some money in the account

:33:07.:33:13.

before you get your paws on it. Do you save in a pension? I don't. My

:33:13.:33:17.

employer pays into a pension for me. I think if I paid into it they

:33:17.:33:22.

would match what I put into it. That would leave Florence relying

:33:22.:33:28.

on a State pension, that's �107 a week and her income. If she stays

:33:28.:33:32.

with the same employer until 65, their contributions means she'll

:33:32.:33:36.

get around �160 top-up. But if she matched that �100 a month they pay

:33:37.:33:45.

in, that would bring the top-up up to �3040. She'll have to put aside

:33:45.:33:49.

between �400 a month, including her employer's contributions.

:33:49.:33:55.

taking Florence on a journey to see what her future could hold. This

:33:55.:33:59.

community centre offers a luncheon group for local pensioners, costing

:33:59.:34:04.

them �2.35 each. It provides a social opportunity to those, but

:34:04.:34:08.

it's a far cry from what she's used to. I believe in living from day to

:34:09.:34:13.

day. I lived in those days. I used to go out every night. When you

:34:13.:34:18.

were thinking about when you retire what would you dream? I wanted a

:34:18.:34:23.

cottage in the country. That's your dream. My husband and I spoke about

:34:23.:34:30.

that. When it came to the mortgage, I could not afford it. I lived in a

:34:30.:34:39.

flat. It's a little flat. Like every pensioner, but it's up to the

:34:39.:34:44.

youngsters today, what they pay. you think I should be saving now?

:34:44.:34:50.

When you've got a chance. You've got a chance. You should do it.

:34:50.:34:56.

Florence is looking in a mirror. She has met Ada who enjoyed herself

:34:56.:34:59.

and spent her money. She told Florence they wished she hadn't and

:34:59.:35:05.

saved a bit more. If Florence wants that pension of �30,000 a year she

:35:05.:35:11.

better start saving now. To get that had she started at 25, she

:35:12.:35:16.

needs �5,000. If she starts now it rises to �9,000 a year. This is the

:35:16.:35:20.

type of house you want. That's right. With no savings at all in

:35:20.:35:23.

order to get on the property ladder, Florence needs to get together a

:35:23.:35:29.

deposit. Ing saving �300 a month would give her �20,000 in five

:35:29.:35:32.

years' time, but even that's not going to be enough for the sort of

:35:32.:35:41.

places she wants, so I'm showing her a more realistic proposition.

:35:41.:35:47.

She could afford a one-bed flat. A mortgage of �600. She would own it

:35:47.:35:51.

outright when she retires, but if she wants the pension as well,

:35:51.:35:56.

she'll need savings of �500 a month, including her employer's

:35:56.:36:00.

contribution and tax relief, so she'll have just over �100 to spend

:36:00.:36:05.

a week. Ironically, the same as today's State pension. She'll not

:36:05.:36:08.

have the kind of retirement that most people dream of. It's

:36:08.:36:11.

definitely become apparent that I need to think more about exactly

:36:11.:36:14.

what I want when I retire and the sort of place I want to live and

:36:15.:36:19.

how I'm going to get there using my current circumstances. I'm clearly

:36:19.:36:25.

not saving enough money to be where I want to be when I retire. It's

:36:25.:36:30.

frightening. I'm not being very sensible in that department. I'm

:36:30.:36:33.

not mentioning ages, but who out of you three is ready for retirement?

:36:33.:36:41.

That's got to be me then. Hello! I get my pension. She's been getting

:36:41.:36:46.

it for over 20 years. Only you can get away with that. I do, but the

:36:46.:36:50.

trouble is if you're working then you'll pay tax on it anyway and I

:36:50.:36:53.

think whichever way you go, property, there's no guarantee it

:36:53.:36:58.

will go up. Whatever you do, it's never going to be worth it. Did you

:36:58.:37:01.

feel well prepared and invest throughout your whole life?

:37:01.:37:06.

Coming to Birds was a bit later in my career so I think it's wise to

:37:06.:37:09.

start planning for the year dot, but all the rules are changing now,

:37:09.:37:13.

so it's never going to be this wonderful panacea that you'll be

:37:13.:37:18.

able to retire and what do you do about old age and care homes

:37:18.:37:22.

wherever you are? Are you two prepared and putting money aside?

:37:22.:37:27.

little bit. Not a lot. Probably started in my 40s, which was maybe

:37:27.:37:32.

too late to start. What age would you recommend? This is the thing

:37:32.:37:37.

about pensions, that the earlier you start, the easier it is. My

:37:37.:37:40.

financial adviser talks about a rule he calls the half and half

:37:40.:37:44.

rule, that if you want half your salary when you retire you save

:37:44.:37:51.

half your age when you start. If you start when you're 20 you save

:37:51.:37:56.

half 20,10%, if you're 40, you save half, 20%. The longer you leave it

:37:56.:38:00.

the harder and harder it is to build up a big fund in your pension

:38:00.:38:03.

pot, because you're money hasn't got as long to work for you as it

:38:03.:38:09.

would be if you started when you were younger. My kids are going to

:38:09.:38:16.

look after me. Charlie? Hang on. You'll look after mummy, won't you

:38:16.:38:21.

son? Yeah, definitely! We'll get a bit more advice for you while

:38:21.:38:27.

Declan's here. You are begging to be put in a home. The thing is, the

:38:27.:38:31.

word itself is a turn-off. If it was an invest in your future scheme,

:38:31.:38:37.

more people would be putting their money in. It's normally called the

:38:37.:38:42.

old-age pension and when you are really young you don't think you'll

:38:42.:38:46.

get old and you'll never work like you are now. It's the future that -

:38:46.:38:49.

you could say test better to spend because you've only got one life

:38:49.:38:56.

and worry about what when the time comes. Yeah. It depends how much of

:38:56.:39:01.

a burden you want to be on everyone else when you reach that stage. The

:39:01.:39:07.

word is such a bore. Who wants to save for a pension when they're 20

:39:07.:39:11.

or 30? There are other fun ways of spending money and if you are

:39:11.:39:15.

younger, there are other demands on the cash, the mortgage, the car and

:39:15.:39:19.

perhaps a wedding or babies. There are huge demands on money. If you

:39:19.:39:22.

thought about it differently, stop calling it a pension, start

:39:22.:39:26.

thinking of it this way - you're not spending today so that you can

:39:27.:39:33.

spend and enjoy yourself when you're older. It's deferred

:39:33.:39:39.

gratification rather than instant. What about the risks? There are

:39:39.:39:45.

always risks. Some that are tied to the value of the markets, you saw

:39:45.:39:48.

when the markets tumbled at the start of this particular century,

:39:48.:39:52.

anyone retiring at that point relying on the stock market got far

:39:52.:39:55.

less than they expected. The thing you have to remember with pension

:39:55.:39:59.

is this - the state pension is never as generous as people expect

:39:59.:40:03.

and in today's money it's six grand a year. The other thing is, the

:40:03.:40:08.

amount of money you need in your own private pot to have a

:40:08.:40:11.

comfortable retirement is always staggering greater than you imagine.

:40:11.:40:15.

The earlier you start, the easier it should be. What about putting

:40:15.:40:20.

money in property? You can do that. For some people that works. You buy

:40:20.:40:23.

a big property when you're working and move somewhere smaller. But

:40:23.:40:26.

what tends to happen for some people the money runs out a lot

:40:27.:40:31.

faster than they expect. Declan, it's such a shame you didn't come

:40:31.:40:36.

on earlier, like two years ago. Thank you so much. Earlier on, we

:40:36.:40:41.

asked you to nip next door have have a photograph with your

:40:41.:40:45.

neighbour. This is Nicky C and T and they've been neighbours in

:40:45.:40:53.

Cornwall for two-and-a-half years. This is John and neighbour Rudy who

:40:53.:40:57.

is 101 years old. My mum is 100 and she got a telegram from the Queen

:40:57.:41:02.

and if I may say, talking about pensions, she got a telegram from

:41:02.:41:07.

Iain Duncan Smith, Minister of Works and pensions. How bizarre is

:41:07.:41:14.

that? Love it. Was he asking for money? She is 101 in May. Bless her.

:41:14.:41:18.

Talking of investing in the future, they say that one is born every

:41:18.:41:22.

minute, but of the 33,000 registered midwives in the UK, only

:41:22.:41:27.

132 of them are male and in Scotland, there's just three, with

:41:27.:41:33.

just one man delivering at home. We went to meet the man flying the

:41:33.:41:38.

flag. If you asked me to choose the perfect midwife for this baby I

:41:38.:41:41.

would have said someone kind, patient, good at quelling nerves,

:41:41.:41:51.

but I would never think of a man. Meet David Cunningham. David is

:41:51.:41:55.

currently the only practising community male midwife in Scotland.

:41:55.:41:58.

And he's been helping women to deliver babies for the past 25

:41:58.:42:06.

years. Can you hear that? That's a good one there. Over the years,

:42:06.:42:12.

David's delivered hundreds of babies. What was your husband's

:42:12.:42:17.

reaction to your midwife being a man? I think we both were a bit

:42:17.:42:22.

like that. My first midwife that I had didn't have children, and in

:42:22.:42:25.

some respects there was absolutely no difference because she had never

:42:25.:42:30.

been through the process either. Have you bver been mistake for

:42:30.:42:34.

somebody else? -- ever been mistaken for somebody else One of

:42:34.:42:38.

the girl's mum thought I was a gas man. They don't know who you are.

:42:38.:42:45.

What did she say? Oh, right. She was shocked. Shows like Call the

:42:45.:42:49.

Midwife, mean the profession is in the spotlight as perhaps never

:42:49.:42:59.
:42:59.:42:59.

before, but men make up a tiny majority of midwives. You went to

:42:59.:43:05.

train as a nurse? Yeah. While you were training you loved mid-

:43:05.:43:09.

wievery? It appealed to me. There are more healthy women and I was

:43:09.:43:18.

interested. It was something different at that time. Caroline

:43:18.:43:24.

had a daughter nearly three weeks ago, called Isla. This is her first

:43:24.:43:34.
:43:34.:43:39.

born. I'll have a wee check and get the scales. Sometimes you open the

:43:39.:43:43.

door and it's not always happy mums? No. Some mums have been up

:43:43.:43:47.

all night and feeding and it feels like they're at the end of their

:43:47.:43:53.

tether, but I just come in. I think sometimes they need a helper and

:43:53.:43:57.

helping with breast-feeding. You can sit down and they are frb often

:43:57.:44:03.

doing a good job. You tell David as much as you tell Mark? Probably

:44:04.:44:08.

more! Despite his day job, David's still very much a man's man after

:44:08.:44:12.

work. I like to go to the pub with my mates and out with the wife at

:44:12.:44:19.

the weekend and friends. I don't do anything different. I don't do

:44:19.:44:24.

anything different. I don't think differently, but when I go to work

:44:24.:44:29.

I switch on and when I feel protective to the people who I look

:44:29.:44:39.
:44:39.:44:44.

David has certainly shown me that male midwives are just as effective

:44:45.:44:53.

and supportive as the now one's definitely. -- as a female ones.

:44:53.:45:03.

You have all given birth. Would you feel comfortable with a man? Mine

:45:03.:45:06.

were women. My daughter had a baby and I don't think she would have

:45:07.:45:12.

minded as long as she felt comfortable with the midwife.

:45:12.:45:15.

such an amazing experience, you don't really care who is there as

:45:16.:45:20.

long as the baby is delivered safely and you are in so much pain

:45:20.:45:25.

anyway, you just think, help me. is just important you feel

:45:26.:45:31.

comfortable with the person. We are getting inundated with people

:45:31.:45:36.

asking if there will be another TV series of Birds of a Feather.

:45:36.:45:42.

the moment, there is a script with the BBC, it was delivered last week.

:45:42.:45:48.

Fabulous. And at the moment we are waiting. There is the answer.

:45:48.:45:53.

is somewhere at the BBC. Maybe if the BBC don't want it, maybe

:45:53.:45:58.

someone else will. They all came along to Richmond when we did it

:45:58.:46:04.

last year and it was phenomenal. will watch this space and cross our

:46:04.:46:11.

fingers. A you had been busy doing your own

:46:11.:46:16.

separate projects as well. You did "I'm A Celebrity, Get Me Out Of

:46:16.:46:21.

Here!". I have watched it for the last 12 years. I did not do it last

:46:21.:46:25.

year because my daughter was pregnant but I thought, this year

:46:25.:46:31.

is my last year, I will be on his timber-frame any later. The first

:46:31.:46:38.

two days were so hard. You cannot believe you actually there. The

:46:38.:46:44.

creatures and the rats, everything you see, it is as awful as it seems.

:46:44.:46:48.

People think, you would give him food and drinks. What you see on

:46:48.:46:54.

the telly is what you get. After the third morning I thought, you

:46:54.:46:58.

know what? This ain't as bad as I thought it was going to be. We got

:46:58.:47:04.

on really well. We got on really well. Once I knew my kids were in

:47:04.:47:12.

Australia, I could not wait to get out! And that hotel was waiting as

:47:12.:47:20.

well. But I loved it and I have no regrets. Calendar Girls? Yes,

:47:20.:47:26.

stripping for the nation. It was wonderful. It is a bit like this,

:47:26.:47:30.

you all there together. Can I just say I was actually naked behind

:47:31.:47:39.

that as well. Yes, I was! I do not know why I chose to share that with

:47:39.:47:45.

everybody. I am so sorry. But it was an amazing experience. It was

:47:45.:47:51.

really invigorating. And a lot of money goes to cancer research. It

:47:51.:47:56.

is an amazing story and we met a Calendar Girls. I just absolutely

:47:56.:48:01.

loved it. And then I came to this. It is like doing two wonderful

:48:01.:48:07.

shows, it is bliss. You also have done a documentary about looking

:48:07.:48:13.

after the elderly. That was really tough but a lot of that money we

:48:13.:48:17.

raise money for on the elderly, maybe it resonates because of my

:48:17.:48:24.

mum. It was heartbreaking. I went into dementia hospital wards. It is

:48:24.:48:28.

really important that they get it out there. Some people say, like

:48:28.:48:32.

when they gave up smoking, it is terrible, and now nobody even

:48:33.:48:37.

thinks about it. It is like that with older people. We have got to

:48:37.:48:43.

get to a stage where we look after them. Very have got a message from

:48:43.:48:50.

two special people. Hello, Lesley. It is packed. I really enjoyed you

:48:50.:48:59.

You did everything from Malcolm. You got up in the night and we

:48:59.:49:02.

really did appreciate you been here but the highlight for me is when we

:49:03.:49:08.

went down the bingo, and I won. I know you wanted to win but it was

:49:08.:49:13.

my time. And with that money I went on a cruise and I thoroughly

:49:13.:49:17.

enjoyed it and it could not have happened without you. Thank you

:49:17.:49:27.
:49:27.:49:29.

very much, darling. APPLAUSE. Sorry. That was the most

:49:29.:49:35.

extraordinary thing because we me when to bingo, she won �1,000.

:49:35.:49:40.

Everybody thought we had done it on purpose. It was a national game,

:49:40.:49:46.

you cannot state and national game, they would kill you! We were in at

:49:46.:49:51.

Dartford -- you cannot staged the national game. I said, you have

:49:51.:49:56.

won! They said, we have got a winner in Dartford. It was

:49:56.:50:05.

extraordinary. It was heartbreaking but wonderful. Bless you. And you

:50:05.:50:10.

said how nervous you get, which is incredible. You have done so many

:50:10.:50:15.

different productions. When we started the tour last year, I

:50:15.:50:21.

cannot tell you how it scared I was. I had not done theatre for 25 years.

:50:21.:50:26.

The girls have both done lots of the attack. It is just that are

:50:26.:50:30.

built up. Because Charlie was with me, I didn't want him to see what a

:50:31.:50:38.

state I can get myself into. So I gave myself a talking-to. It is

:50:38.:50:48.

healthy. Nothing wrong with a bit of an Airbus. -- a bit of nerves. A

:50:48.:50:55.

thin as we get out there, we love it. -- as soon as we get out there.

:50:55.:51:01.

The pressure is on now. No! We have got some old footage, a blast from

:51:02.:51:08.

the past. We will take you back to 1976 and we want to see if you can

:51:08.:51:11.

identify the man you were starring opposite.

:51:12.:51:15.

�1.50 and I will carry your shopping home. We cannot say fairer

:51:15.:51:23.

than that. You will do anything I want? Anything. I will have him.

:51:23.:51:29.

Lovely. I hope you will be satisfied. I can't wait until I get

:51:29.:51:36.

home. Basically, that lad with the chains around him, you chopped his

:51:36.:51:45.

head off with a magic trick,... All sorts of things. He is one of the

:51:45.:51:51.

four gentleman we have got in the studio. There he is! Don't spoil

:51:51.:52:01.
:52:01.:52:02.

it! Is it number one? Number two? Number three, a feathered friend?

:52:02.:52:11.

Or number four? Who are you going for? You have got to know us.

:52:11.:52:18.

I have got my glasses on. Number two! Step forward, the real Mike

:52:18.:52:28.
:52:28.:52:29.

Holoway! Did they really make you do all

:52:29.:52:35.

that? Thank you. How lovely to see you. I know everybody says you

:52:35.:52:41.

haven't aged but you really haven't. What a lovely looking lad! It was

:52:41.:52:45.

extraordinary. I signed up to be a singer and drummer of a pop band

:52:45.:52:50.

and they threw everything including the kitchen sink at me. Are you

:52:50.:52:56.

still traumatised? At that age! can't believe a word of it. Good to

:52:56.:53:05.

see you. Good luck to you. Many of you will know how to take a

:53:05.:53:13.

panoramic photo on your phone. We took one only yet on in the studio.

:53:13.:53:17.

-- A earlier. But back up the BT Tower, Jamie Crawford's doing a

:53:17.:53:24.

supersize one. At the BT Tower what, we we started

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the 1960s revolution, and captured a time-lapse of London by night.

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And by stitching together the shots, we have made a 360 degree panorama

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far wider than can be achieved in just one shot or stop but I am not

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the only one to spot but how will's unique photographic potential

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because a team of specialist photographers are setting out to

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create the most detailed panoramic image of his city ever made.

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were asked to create the largest photo in the world. I thought the

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BT Tower will would be a perfect location for that because it is

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like a giant tripod. And on that tripod, four computerised cameras

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will snap a grid of images which will make up one-quarter of the

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Panorama. 160 pictures across by 76 pictures in increments. It will

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take more than 12,000 pictures on each position. Nearly 50,000 photos.

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It is a process that will take over an hour and in theory, in that time

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a single person could be photographed multiple times in

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different places across the city, so detests the resolution of the

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final image, we are dispatching our One Show target-man on a mission to

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try to appear, first nearby the BT Tower and then to race the cameras

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across London to another landmark two miles away. The building that

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before the BT Tower was billed was the nation's tallest, St Paul's

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cathedrals all-star the race is on. The team must take all of the

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50,000 photographs they need before the light will have changed too

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much for the shots to match. If they can do this, their final image

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will be so detailed that my own effort would sit inside there's

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5,000 times of. Our man reached St Paul's just in time. This reveals

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the full extent of the most detailed photographs of the city

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ever taken. I can't wait to see this.

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We are now going to look at the whole thing in the studio.

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Hang on! We have gone wonky! Look Absolutely extraordinary.

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We have got Geoffrey Martin. This is a small version of what you can

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produce. The full-size would be 93 metres long and 20 metres tall.

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With that detail. And this was commissioned for a particular event

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but it took a bit longer to do then you anticipated. Right. It took

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over three months to put it together. It was supposed to take

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As we know, this is the world's largest Panorama. That's right.

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Which are the ones have you done? did one previously of London. And

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another one of Prague,... How does that relate to a normal photo?

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is made of 48,000 individual photos. We have got Simon over here for

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Simon Rodway is a London tour guide. Over here we have to One Show! That

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is television centre. Of course, the BBC is coming back to its old

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This is Regent Street. You can just make up the famous round Church.

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How nice for you to be flying all over this of. And coming down here,

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Fitz Roy via, fantastic. You have this, this is the old Middlesex

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Hospital. To walk round that, we have a big fence. Brilliant.

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asked rig your photo of your Steph and Maddie. Best friends as

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well as neighbours Foster. Abigail and Cheryl Cole Thanks to

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Pauline, Linda and Lesley, and the Birds of a Feather tour starts in

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Coventry next Tuesday. Tomorrow we'll be joined by the man with a

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