20/10/2011 The One Show

Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.

And tonight, darlings, an Eddie?! Come on, I have got a

bottle! I will need to Dun there! cannot find the stairs, land just

here, come on, sweetie! It is You were there in New York. It was

extraordinary, the 67th floor, and I have really bad vertigo. Jennifer

Saunders is terrified of flying, but she wrote to fly in a

helicopter. She was so close to the building, she came zooming up, but

was real acting! We were shaking. You were petrified. And about 120

degrees, the middle of a heatwave. Brilliant news, a brand new series

of Ab Fab. A mini-series, three episodes. The good news is Jennifer,

Joanna, June, Julia and Jane are back. Not only that, quite a lot of

the old people, their former husbands, plenty of the board you

will recognise. And has Patsy dried out? Oh, darling, honestly! They

have kept apace with what is going on, so life has moved on, but as we

have seen an informer episodes as terribly old women, we know they

are going to live forever, so this is just another step along the

journey. I can't wait. Later we have an exclusive on what you look

like today. If you for your mum is a secret fancy, you know what we

mean, we want to see your photos. - - Patsy. Joanna will give us her

verdict later. Most City bankers are going out of their way to avoid

the demonstrators camped outside of St Paul's Cathedral in London

protesting against the global economic crisis. But Justin Rowlatt

has found a man with 49 years' experience in the City who is

willing to go down there and tell them why they are wrong. Starting

just over one month ago in Wall Street, the so called Occupied

demonstrations have spread around the globe, campaigning against what

they see as corporate power and greed. And this is the latest

occupation, outside St Paul's Cathedral in London. The protesters

here are saying it is time the money may not change their ways.

think everybody here stands for what the majority believes, what is

happening is not the right thing. would like to see more regulation

of the banks. It is about replacing the idea of capitalism with a

different system. David Buik has been one of Britain's top bankers

for 49 years, working with billions and making millions. We were

wondering if he would come down and tell the people why you think

Britain's bankers are brilliant and should be supported. Life is a

debate, bring it on. I would like to introduce you to Mr David Buik,

and he is here to tell you why he thinks that Britain's bankers are

absolutely brilliant. I would like to know what he thinks the British

taxpayer should be doing about the fact that we have been trillions of

pounds to the banks on the basis that they said that they would

probably give it to people who needed it, small businesses.

cannot actually expect the management at the very senior

levels of banks to countenance lending money to people who

probably cannot repay it. You are saying the bankers are not at fault.

No, the banks made some contribution... UN more than 25

times a single worker in your company. -- You earn. Everything

emanates from a bank. Your baby's hat, some company borrowed money to

manufacture that. Whether you like it or not, the financial sector,

just one alone, employs two million people. It does not matter about

employment, it is about the environment and sustainability.

need an economy that creates sufficient wealth... We need a

resource based economy, where we work out what is sustainable.

Basically, the financial sector generates �54 billion the year in

terms of revenue for the taxman. minutes in, the crowd is now well

over 100, but David is still holding his ground. If there were

no banks generating profits, there would be no money led to business,

industry or commerce. Nobody would be able to manufacture anything, we

would have anarchy. Our debt increased massively in the Paige.

When we bailed out the banks, it rocketed, and we went into a

recession that neo- liberalism and the policies of this Government are

sending us hurtling into an abyss! The first bank bail-out in 2008-

Dimock nine was because it was a problem all over the world. Pretty

vigorous debate, but I think David has quite long way to go before he

persuades the skies that Britain's bankers are brilliant. You got out

of their safely, thank goodness, what was your impression? It was

interesting, there were the anarchists you would expect, but

most of the people were really interested in having a debate, and

when we brought David along, they all gathered around. You could see

that they listened to what he had his say. He agreed with some of

their points, they agreed with some of his. There was a sense that

these people felt there was a big problem in Britain and around the

world, and they wanted to talk about how to solve it. What is

going on there right now? There is a little bit of a stand-off with

the Church, which is saying there is a problem of access. The number

of people going into St Paul's has fallen. They have said, they have

threatened to possibly close the church. They have said, the

consequences of a decision to close Ed Balls cannot be taken lightly,

which is a very polite, Anglican way of saying they have had enough.

-- closer St Paul's. And they depend on donations. Why don't they

use speakers corners? That is the sacred place that everybody wanted

to use, get the cameras at there, draw them away. Unfortunately, the

commitment to the movement is to stay until Christmas, so that is

what they are saying. There is a potential for conflict. These

protests are spreading around Britain, Nottingham, Edinburgh,

Glasgow, Bristol, Newcastle. At the heart of all of this is the concern

about the eurozone and about the Greek economy. As you know,

hundreds of thousands of people have been on the streets and Greece.

As John Anne Owers. You have been out there. What did you see? We

went to pay Salonika and Athens, when they had strikes, and people

were absolutely desperate. The extraordinary thing is the level in

society which it has reached. You know, middle-class people sitting

on the ground, selling their household things just to get enough

money to buy food. I talked a great teacher whose pay had been cut by

25% in real terms, but everything else had gone up by 20% as well, so

they are only getting half, they cannot pay their rent, their

mortgages, they have children at school. It is a real problem.

terrible situation. Thank you, Justin. Now, some people go on ad

infinitum about how marten is dead and ergo we should not be teaching

it in schools. -- Martin. It is a bona fide point of view which is

unlikely to affect the status quo. Gyles Brandreth says carpe diem and

as rush of the sea if we need the old language of Latin. Or vice

versa. One of the few places you are

likely to hear that in these days Friends, Romans, One Show viewers,

lend me your ears, because we are on a mission to discover whether

the Latin language is dead or I do not think it is a dead

language. I think it is immortal. The pleasure that you have been

working out what it means is the same sort of pleasure as you might

get in doing a cryptic crossword puzzle, except at the end of it you

have a piece of literature and not just a grid with a whole load of

The verb to love, in the present, perfect and in perfect tenses,

starting now. Amo, amas, amat... 1960, 60,000 people stood Latin O-

level. This year, the number had dropped to 10,004 GCSE. What on

earth is the relevance of learning Latin in the 21st century?

encourages them to develop a precision and day-care with words

and what language, but they also have to study the literature and

history and culture. They study Cicero, for example, Virgil. One

former pupil loved a poet so much that when he was at university, he

had a couple of tattooed on his side. I mean, Catullus wrote poems

that are so... How does one put this politely? They are obscene,

you cannot read them in schools. But in his London stage school,

Latin is becoming more popular than ever. It helps with many other

languages and different aspects of grammar. Obviously, it has its

challenges, but some people enjoy Latin was the language of education,

church and international politics right across Europe for over 1,000

years. But how on earth did ordinary people ever cope with a

language that has three genders, 7th noun cases, four verve

conditions, six persons, three moods and two voices? If you have

German as your first language, you would be quite accustomed to it. I

suppose, yes, it is challenging, but there is something very logical

about Latin. When you have learned the rules, you can translate

anything, it is incredibly satisfying. Some people think it is

snobby, for posh people, their leaders. I am with Bettany Hughes

on this, she says, how to make something elitist except by

teaching it only to people who can afford to pay? I thanked that is

absolutely right. If it were available for all, it would not

have that image anymore, would it? In the last 10 years, the number of

comprehensives in England offering Latin has started to climb again.

Take note, modern speech is littered with little Latin nuggets,

status quo, vice versa, and Labour, eg, I could go on, etcetera, ad

nauseam! But not as skilfully as this little group of Latin lovers

who meet every month for a spot of I must run, as Julius Caesar might

of said, I bid you farewell, good Brilliant stuff, and as we have

been talking, you are a huge fan. loved it, I did it at school, O-

level and A-level, and I am a great support of his classics for all

thing, because apart from anything else it is the basis of our

language. It gives you the basis of all the other Latin languages,

French, Italian, Spanish. It makes you understand it, it is a suitcase

that carries knowledge within it, it is beautiful, brilliant. You are

currently rehearsing for your new project, The Lion In Winter, the

play opening on 5th November. It is very Christmassy, festive. It is a

huge family row over Christmas, only the family happens to be a

Royal Family, and their children just happen to be Richard the

Lionheart and John who becomes King of England as well. And there is a

king of France in there, but it is like a family squabble. You do not

see any of the courtiers, Barron's On nights, just family. And they

are squabbling with Robert Lindsay. Yes, it is not bad, is it? He is

fantastic. It is directed by Trevor Nunn, what can you say? Just the

business. This play has never been performed in London, because the

playwright did not want it to be done until he thought it was

perfect. His widow has taken over and decided this casting is the one

that London shall see. It is running through Christmas, isn't

it? We run from November right through to the end of January. It

is a grown-up pantomime. But the film version with Katherine

Hepburn and Peter O'Toole that was massively successful, wasn't it?

was huge. Phenomenal. Peter, the extraordinary thing, you see people

who are your heroes, then you get to meet them and know them. I have

played his wife in something. The strangest thing, Peter is a great

fan of Absolutely Fabulous. He came along to a recording! Peter, bigger

and for fabulous than anything. So, he has seen the up to date

Eddie and Patsy. We are having a look now. Here they are.... They

are out shopping again! They can't be stopped. At the drop of a hat. I

don't think that they have very much money, but off they are. They

are in South 34089on Street. They have the car the size of the

Ritz. In your autobiography you do say

you nearly didn't play Patsy is that right? The truth is that I am

wet. If I think that they don't like me or I'm doing it wrong, I

run away. I had been invited to meet Jennifer Saunders, who I had

never met, but she offered my the part of Patsy. We sat and did a

read through. Jennifer didn't seem to be smiling or laughing. I didn't

know what was the funny bit. Patsy didn't exist like that, she was a

friend, but didn't have a thing. So I went thom say to my agent, that I

didn't think that I liked that part. That I should maybe get out of it,

but she told me to do it, to take it up. Thank God I Z

What is the first episode? Well, it will be at the end of the year.

It will be 20 years. This is our anniversary present.

Brilliant and we can sit there and enjoy it with a glass of champagne.

You mentioned in your autograph that you had a difficult time

workwise? I was an unmarried mum. I had been a model, the worst thing

you could do if you wanted to get in agting. I had no equity card.

-- acting. I was really scribbling away,

shouting please let me in. So I was sneaking me way, lying as I went to

pretend I had the experience. Starting, starting, starting, so I

then went to film, then to stage and then to television.

Well, it was not bad. You can catch Joanna Lumley at The Lion In Winter

in the Theatre Royal Haymarket in London in November.

Now, Joanna, look at this picture, look at this! Unbelievable. A lorry

driver's sat nav let him down. Surely he would know that the lorry

did not fit on that street. Well, if you have never been there

and you trust the sat nav, that is what you get. So, Joe Crawley is

ditching the technology and going back to basics. Today I'm going to

see one of the first maps aimed at a new market of local tourists. It

is thought that the maps were used by tradesmen and coachmen in the

18th century. How will it work for me, 300 years later? This is a

precursor to the modern roadmap. This was produced in 17206789

So, would people have taken this traveling with them? That is the

secret of the success of the book - - This was produced in the 17th

century. It was modestly priced at about �30

in those days. There is not much detail. The

landscape has changed much, so I think this will be tricky.

All I can say is good luck. The map is a ribbon map, made up of

three long thin sections, which if you joined them up are like a

ribbon. My map is one of many that were coloured in in the 20th

century. The map charts a journey from Bristol to sorm tonne. My

journey is starting in Bristol. In 1720, Bristol's population was over

25,000 and growing, fast-becoming England's second city. Why?

Business was booming. The docks coming up from the rise of the

American colonies and the massive trade in human cargo. In the 18th

century,000 slave ships from fitted out in Bristol.

Half a million Afro-Americans were transported on the ships.

While this was the slave trade, it was here that Thomas Clarkson, a

leading campaigner for the abolition of the slave trade

gathered his evidence. The beginning built is the easy

part. The map says Bedminster, but that has been consumed by modern

Bristol. So we know which part of the city we are leaving. After that

it gets murky. I'm not sure any of the main roads take us where we

want to go. We are heading due- south, to hochfully end up towards

Bishop's Tew. South of Bristol I travel through Chew Magna. The

small strip of blue south the town has to be the River Chew. Today

this is more than a river, it is Chew Valley Lake. It is a reservoir

created in the 19'50s. To think that was once farmlands

and buildings, and we believe that the old Bristol/Wells route from

this map runs across the bay. The map goes to great pains to detail

hills, windmills and churches, in other words obvious visual markers

for the 18th century traveller. Along those line, Wells with its

stunning cathedral and Birb yop's Palace is something of a beacon.

-- Bishop's Palace. Wells holds much historic

architecture. There are roads here almost unchanged from the time of

the map. This is the oldest residential street in Europe,

dating back to the 14th century. It was assigned for the men of the

choir to live to keep them away from the temptations of town!

Clearly some areas have changed beyond recognition, but I think

this was the location of the Brook Gallows it would have been here

that nine local men were hanged by the neck for their part in the

rebellion against the King in 1685. Well, I'm on to the last section of

my map, heading for sorm tonne, a busy market town in the 18th

century. With many coaches passing through, many purchasing cattle for

the London markets. I played the role of the 18th century tourist,

covered 30-odd miles and centuries of history it must have been

breathtakingly unspoiled back in 1720, but I have to report, it is

still absolutely beautiful today. Everybody is saying absolutely on

tonight's show. Joanna, it goes without saying you

have a beautiful voice it would be lovely on a sat nav. As a fellow of

the Royal geographical society, I would love to combine the two. So

would you do a route for us? Yes. Go on, then.

Take the second left, darling, that's right. At the next

roundabout take the fourth exit, it is Lumely Lane. That is absolutely

fabulous, you have now reached your destiny! Loads of people willing

going on to the website! How is your sense of direction, is it

good? It is quite good. I like it. I like carrying come passes, I like

they. We all love maps! We sound so geeky.

Now, on to a subject that is close to my heart and a growing concern

for farmers across the country. Sheep rustling has doubled in six

months as the price of meat soars. We have had Kate Bevan travel to an

area of farmland to see how the police are helping to stop this

problem. The police are stopping a farm

trailer, the reason to crack down on a fast-rising rural crime, sheep

rustling. It is being driven by rising meat prices. A visit to a

local sheep market like this one in firm nar shows why. The problem is

that sheep are woolly bundles of cash. These are good breeding ewes,

they could make up to �150. Being dosile animals it is easy to fit

half-a dozen of them in family hatchback. If you know a butcher,

lifting a council of sheep is easy money if they are willing to turn a

blind eye it is a headache for farmers such Aspalla O'Neill. Have

you an increase in thefts? Earlier in the year we had a batch of 30

taken from us. It is a big loss? Financially and

psychologically. It is not nice to someone to -- for someone to come

into your area to take the sheep. One sheep is stolen every eight

minutes. Thefts could top 66,000 by Christmas it is costing all of us

over �5 million a year. With their livestock increasingly

vulnerable, farmers will do almost anything to beat the rustlers.

On Dartmoor John Heard dyed 20250 of his black face ewes bright

orange. Now the police and the farmers are using a piece of hi-

technology to put a stop to it. Paula an John are piloting a system

you are more likely to see on an airport than on a farm. It is the

idea of local police sergeant Scott Pawliss.

Each sheep has different marksing - - markings, they this is a scan

that scans the eye. Each retina is unique to the sheep it is like our

fingerprints. Once that is done it goes tonne a database. The retinas

are then paired off with the GPS location of where we have scanned

so that ties a sheep Downton an owner. It means if they are stolen

we can identify the sheep very easily. So you can stop a trailer,

scan a sheep and no exactly where it is from and who it should belong

to? Yes. That is brilliant.

The police here are getting inquiries from other forces as news

of the deterrent spreads amongst farmers and the thieves.

Registering on the system costs �1 a sheep. So protecting over 1,000

is a big outlay. Paula, is it worth doing? It is. We

have found it is very successful. This is the first time in a long

number of years we can say we have not had any sheep taken. On the

daily count now we are present and correct. So we have to thank the

sergeant for introducing the pielt scheme to the area.

Tradition -- introducing the pilot scheme to the area.

On my family farm we feed the sheeps away from the gates to stop

them being an easy target, but as the war against the rustlers steps

up, some farmers see that technology could be a useful weapon.

Until the retina scanning takes off, there is something else we have to

think about, good old fashioned neighbourliness and looking out for

each other. Hopefully this technology will be rolled out

across the country if it works. We are staying on the subject...

Mutton dressed as lamb! Oh! mentioned we should embrace this

fashion? I tend to be mutton dressed as lamb, but the truth is,

I think a lot of us. We tonight want to be dressed up as pensioners,

we are, but we don't like to dress up as it. I often get the kids

stuff, not kids, children, and pop on a gorgeous thing like that!

you think that women are expected to dress a certain way? Not anymore,

but there was a thing, never have your hair over your shoulders after

you are 40 but I intend to have it down to here! Here is somebody

getting ready for her 0th birthday. We asked for pictures of Patsy,

this is Laura and her 30th birthday party and she says she can't wait

for the new episodes. Who do you have here? This is Tom

and Danny from Liverpool. There is Patsy and Eddie, looking very, very

good indeed. Look at Margaret Ray, fab! Go

Margaret. This is sent in by Tess, she is

getting married at the weekend, that is richel on the right.