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Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.

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And tonight, darlings, an Eddie?! Come on, I have got a

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bottle! I will need to Dun there! cannot find the stairs, land just

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here, come on, sweetie! It is You were there in New York. It was

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extraordinary, the 67th floor, and I have really bad vertigo. Jennifer

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Saunders is terrified of flying, but she wrote to fly in a

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helicopter. She was so close to the building, she came zooming up, but

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was real acting! We were shaking. You were petrified. And about 120

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degrees, the middle of a heatwave. Brilliant news, a brand new series

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of Ab Fab. A mini-series, three episodes. The good news is Jennifer,

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Joanna, June, Julia and Jane are back. Not only that, quite a lot of

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the old people, their former husbands, plenty of the board you

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will recognise. And has Patsy dried out? Oh, darling, honestly! They

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have kept apace with what is going on, so life has moved on, but as we

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have seen an informer episodes as terribly old women, we know they

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are going to live forever, so this is just another step along the

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journey. I can't wait. Later we have an exclusive on what you look

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like today. If you for your mum is a secret fancy, you know what we

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mean, we want to see your photos. - - Patsy. Joanna will give us her

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verdict later. Most City bankers are going out of their way to avoid

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the demonstrators camped outside of St Paul's Cathedral in London

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protesting against the global economic crisis. But Justin Rowlatt

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has found a man with 49 years' experience in the City who is

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willing to go down there and tell them why they are wrong. Starting

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just over one month ago in Wall Street, the so called Occupied

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demonstrations have spread around the globe, campaigning against what

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they see as corporate power and greed. And this is the latest

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occupation, outside St Paul's Cathedral in London. The protesters

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here are saying it is time the money may not change their ways.

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think everybody here stands for what the majority believes, what is

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happening is not the right thing. would like to see more regulation

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of the banks. It is about replacing the idea of capitalism with a

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different system. David Buik has been one of Britain's top bankers

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for 49 years, working with billions and making millions. We were

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wondering if he would come down and tell the people why you think

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Britain's bankers are brilliant and should be supported. Life is a

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debate, bring it on. I would like to introduce you to Mr David Buik,

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and he is here to tell you why he thinks that Britain's bankers are

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absolutely brilliant. I would like to know what he thinks the British

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taxpayer should be doing about the fact that we have been trillions of

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pounds to the banks on the basis that they said that they would

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probably give it to people who needed it, small businesses.

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cannot actually expect the management at the very senior

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levels of banks to countenance lending money to people who

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probably cannot repay it. You are saying the bankers are not at fault.

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No, the banks made some contribution... UN more than 25

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times a single worker in your company. -- You earn. Everything

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emanates from a bank. Your baby's hat, some company borrowed money to

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manufacture that. Whether you like it or not, the financial sector,

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just one alone, employs two million people. It does not matter about

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employment, it is about the environment and sustainability.

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need an economy that creates sufficient wealth... We need a

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resource based economy, where we work out what is sustainable.

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Basically, the financial sector generates �54 billion the year in

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terms of revenue for the taxman. minutes in, the crowd is now well

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over 100, but David is still holding his ground. If there were

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no banks generating profits, there would be no money led to business,

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industry or commerce. Nobody would be able to manufacture anything, we

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would have anarchy. Our debt increased massively in the Paige.

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When we bailed out the banks, it rocketed, and we went into a

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recession that neo- liberalism and the policies of this Government are

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sending us hurtling into an abyss! The first bank bail-out in 2008-

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Dimock nine was because it was a problem all over the world. Pretty

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vigorous debate, but I think David has quite long way to go before he

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persuades the skies that Britain's bankers are brilliant. You got out

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of their safely, thank goodness, what was your impression? It was

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interesting, there were the anarchists you would expect, but

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most of the people were really interested in having a debate, and

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when we brought David along, they all gathered around. You could see

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that they listened to what he had his say. He agreed with some of

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their points, they agreed with some of his. There was a sense that

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these people felt there was a big problem in Britain and around the

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world, and they wanted to talk about how to solve it. What is

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going on there right now? There is a little bit of a stand-off with

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the Church, which is saying there is a problem of access. The number

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of people going into St Paul's has fallen. They have said, they have

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threatened to possibly close the church. They have said, the

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consequences of a decision to close Ed Balls cannot be taken lightly,

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which is a very polite, Anglican way of saying they have had enough.

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-- closer St Paul's. And they depend on donations. Why don't they

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use speakers corners? That is the sacred place that everybody wanted

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to use, get the cameras at there, draw them away. Unfortunately, the

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commitment to the movement is to stay until Christmas, so that is

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what they are saying. There is a potential for conflict. These

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protests are spreading around Britain, Nottingham, Edinburgh,

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Glasgow, Bristol, Newcastle. At the heart of all of this is the concern

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about the eurozone and about the Greek economy. As you know,

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hundreds of thousands of people have been on the streets and Greece.

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As John Anne Owers. You have been out there. What did you see? We

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went to pay Salonika and Athens, when they had strikes, and people

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were absolutely desperate. The extraordinary thing is the level in

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society which it has reached. You know, middle-class people sitting

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on the ground, selling their household things just to get enough

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money to buy food. I talked a great teacher whose pay had been cut by

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25% in real terms, but everything else had gone up by 20% as well, so

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they are only getting half, they cannot pay their rent, their

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mortgages, they have children at school. It is a real problem.

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terrible situation. Thank you, Justin. Now, some people go on ad

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infinitum about how marten is dead and ergo we should not be teaching

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it in schools. -- Martin. It is a bona fide point of view which is

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unlikely to affect the status quo. Gyles Brandreth says carpe diem and

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as rush of the sea if we need the old language of Latin. Or vice

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versa. One of the few places you are

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likely to hear that in these days Friends, Romans, One Show viewers,

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lend me your ears, because we are on a mission to discover whether

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the Latin language is dead or I do not think it is a dead

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language. I think it is immortal. The pleasure that you have been

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working out what it means is the same sort of pleasure as you might

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get in doing a cryptic crossword puzzle, except at the end of it you

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have a piece of literature and not just a grid with a whole load of

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The verb to love, in the present, perfect and in perfect tenses,

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starting now. Amo, amas, amat... 1960, 60,000 people stood Latin O-

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level. This year, the number had dropped to 10,004 GCSE. What on

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earth is the relevance of learning Latin in the 21st century?

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encourages them to develop a precision and day-care with words

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and what language, but they also have to study the literature and

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history and culture. They study Cicero, for example, Virgil. One

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former pupil loved a poet so much that when he was at university, he

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had a couple of tattooed on his side. I mean, Catullus wrote poems

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that are so... How does one put this politely? They are obscene,

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you cannot read them in schools. But in his London stage school,

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Latin is becoming more popular than ever. It helps with many other

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languages and different aspects of grammar. Obviously, it has its

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challenges, but some people enjoy Latin was the language of education,

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church and international politics right across Europe for over 1,000

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years. But how on earth did ordinary people ever cope with a

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language that has three genders, 7th noun cases, four verve

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conditions, six persons, three moods and two voices? If you have

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German as your first language, you would be quite accustomed to it. I

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suppose, yes, it is challenging, but there is something very logical

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about Latin. When you have learned the rules, you can translate

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anything, it is incredibly satisfying. Some people think it is

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snobby, for posh people, their leaders. I am with Bettany Hughes

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on this, she says, how to make something elitist except by

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teaching it only to people who can afford to pay? I thanked that is

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absolutely right. If it were available for all, it would not

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have that image anymore, would it? In the last 10 years, the number of

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comprehensives in England offering Latin has started to climb again.

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Take note, modern speech is littered with little Latin nuggets,

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status quo, vice versa, and Labour, eg, I could go on, etcetera, ad

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nauseam! But not as skilfully as this little group of Latin lovers

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who meet every month for a spot of I must run, as Julius Caesar might

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of said, I bid you farewell, good Brilliant stuff, and as we have

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been talking, you are a huge fan. loved it, I did it at school, O-

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level and A-level, and I am a great support of his classics for all

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thing, because apart from anything else it is the basis of our

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language. It gives you the basis of all the other Latin languages,

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French, Italian, Spanish. It makes you understand it, it is a suitcase

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that carries knowledge within it, it is beautiful, brilliant. You are

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currently rehearsing for your new project, The Lion In Winter, the

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play opening on 5th November. It is very Christmassy, festive. It is a

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huge family row over Christmas, only the family happens to be a

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Royal Family, and their children just happen to be Richard the

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Lionheart and John who becomes King of England as well. And there is a

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king of France in there, but it is like a family squabble. You do not

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see any of the courtiers, Barron's On nights, just family. And they

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are squabbling with Robert Lindsay. Yes, it is not bad, is it? He is

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fantastic. It is directed by Trevor Nunn, what can you say? Just the

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business. This play has never been performed in London, because the

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playwright did not want it to be done until he thought it was

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perfect. His widow has taken over and decided this casting is the one

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that London shall see. It is running through Christmas, isn't

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it? We run from November right through to the end of January. It

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is a grown-up pantomime. But the film version with Katherine

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Hepburn and Peter O'Toole that was massively successful, wasn't it?

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was huge. Phenomenal. Peter, the extraordinary thing, you see people

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who are your heroes, then you get to meet them and know them. I have

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played his wife in something. The strangest thing, Peter is a great

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fan of Absolutely Fabulous. He came along to a recording! Peter, bigger

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and for fabulous than anything. So, he has seen the up to date

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Eddie and Patsy. We are having a look now. Here they are.... They

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are out shopping again! They can't be stopped. At the drop of a hat. I

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don't think that they have very much money, but off they are. They

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are in South 34089on Street. They have the car the size of the

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Ritz. In your autobiography you do say

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you nearly didn't play Patsy is that right? The truth is that I am

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wet. If I think that they don't like me or I'm doing it wrong, I

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run away. I had been invited to meet Jennifer Saunders, who I had

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never met, but she offered my the part of Patsy. We sat and did a

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read through. Jennifer didn't seem to be smiling or laughing. I didn't

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know what was the funny bit. Patsy didn't exist like that, she was a

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friend, but didn't have a thing. So I went thom say to my agent, that I

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didn't think that I liked that part. That I should maybe get out of it,

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but she told me to do it, to take it up. Thank God I Z

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What is the first episode? Well, it will be at the end of the year.

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It will be 20 years. This is our anniversary present.

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Brilliant and we can sit there and enjoy it with a glass of champagne.

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You mentioned in your autograph that you had a difficult time

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workwise? I was an unmarried mum. I had been a model, the worst thing

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you could do if you wanted to get in agting. I had no equity card.

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-- acting. I was really scribbling away,

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shouting please let me in. So I was sneaking me way, lying as I went to

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pretend I had the experience. Starting, starting, starting, so I

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then went to film, then to stage and then to television.

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Well, it was not bad. You can catch Joanna Lumley at The Lion In Winter

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in the Theatre Royal Haymarket in London in November.

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Now, Joanna, look at this picture, look at this! Unbelievable. A lorry

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driver's sat nav let him down. Surely he would know that the lorry

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did not fit on that street. Well, if you have never been there

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and you trust the sat nav, that is what you get. So, Joe Crawley is

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ditching the technology and going back to basics. Today I'm going to

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see one of the first maps aimed at a new market of local tourists. It

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is thought that the maps were used by tradesmen and coachmen in the

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18th century. How will it work for me, 300 years later? This is a

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precursor to the modern roadmap. This was produced in 17206789

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So, would people have taken this traveling with them? That is the

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secret of the success of the book - - This was produced in the 17th

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century. It was modestly priced at about �30

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in those days. There is not much detail. The

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landscape has changed much, so I think this will be tricky.

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All I can say is good luck. The map is a ribbon map, made up of

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three long thin sections, which if you joined them up are like a

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ribbon. My map is one of many that were coloured in in the 20th

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century. The map charts a journey from Bristol to sorm tonne. My

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journey is starting in Bristol. In 1720, Bristol's population was over

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25,000 and growing, fast-becoming England's second city. Why?

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Business was booming. The docks coming up from the rise of the

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American colonies and the massive trade in human cargo. In the 18th

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century,000 slave ships from fitted out in Bristol.

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Half a million Afro-Americans were transported on the ships.

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While this was the slave trade, it was here that Thomas Clarkson, a

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leading campaigner for the abolition of the slave trade

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gathered his evidence. The beginning built is the easy

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part. The map says Bedminster, but that has been consumed by modern

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Bristol. So we know which part of the city we are leaving. After that

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it gets murky. I'm not sure any of the main roads take us where we

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want to go. We are heading due- south, to hochfully end up towards

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Bishop's Tew. South of Bristol I travel through Chew Magna. The

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small strip of blue south the town has to be the River Chew. Today

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this is more than a river, it is Chew Valley Lake. It is a reservoir

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created in the 19'50s. To think that was once farmlands

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and buildings, and we believe that the old Bristol/Wells route from

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this map runs across the bay. The map goes to great pains to detail

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hills, windmills and churches, in other words obvious visual markers

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for the 18th century traveller. Along those line, Wells with its

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stunning cathedral and Birb yop's Palace is something of a beacon.

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-- Bishop's Palace. Wells holds much historic

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architecture. There are roads here almost unchanged from the time of

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the map. This is the oldest residential street in Europe,

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dating back to the 14th century. It was assigned for the men of the

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choir to live to keep them away from the temptations of town!

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Clearly some areas have changed beyond recognition, but I think

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this was the location of the Brook Gallows it would have been here

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that nine local men were hanged by the neck for their part in the

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rebellion against the King in 1685. Well, I'm on to the last section of

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my map, heading for sorm tonne, a busy market town in the 18th

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century. With many coaches passing through, many purchasing cattle for

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the London markets. I played the role of the 18th century tourist,

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covered 30-odd miles and centuries of history it must have been

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breathtakingly unspoiled back in 1720, but I have to report, it is

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still absolutely beautiful today. Everybody is saying absolutely on

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tonight's show. Joanna, it goes without saying you

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have a beautiful voice it would be lovely on a sat nav. As a fellow of

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the Royal geographical society, I would love to combine the two. So

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would you do a route for us? Yes. Go on, then.

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Take the second left, darling, that's right. At the next

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roundabout take the fourth exit, it is Lumely Lane. That is absolutely

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fabulous, you have now reached your destiny! Loads of people willing

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going on to the website! How is your sense of direction, is it

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good? It is quite good. I like it. I like carrying come passes, I like

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they. We all love maps! We sound so geeky.

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Now, on to a subject that is close to my heart and a growing concern

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for farmers across the country. Sheep rustling has doubled in six

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months as the price of meat soars. We have had Kate Bevan travel to an

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area of farmland to see how the police are helping to stop this

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problem. The police are stopping a farm

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trailer, the reason to crack down on a fast-rising rural crime, sheep

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rustling. It is being driven by rising meat prices. A visit to a

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local sheep market like this one in firm nar shows why. The problem is

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that sheep are woolly bundles of cash. These are good breeding ewes,

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they could make up to �150. Being dosile animals it is easy to fit

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half-a dozen of them in family hatchback. If you know a butcher,

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lifting a council of sheep is easy money if they are willing to turn a

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blind eye it is a headache for farmers such Aspalla O'Neill. Have

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you an increase in thefts? Earlier in the year we had a batch of 30

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taken from us. It is a big loss? Financially and

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psychologically. It is not nice to someone to -- for someone to come

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into your area to take the sheep. One sheep is stolen every eight

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minutes. Thefts could top 66,000 by Christmas it is costing all of us

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over �5 million a year. With their livestock increasingly

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vulnerable, farmers will do almost anything to beat the rustlers.

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On Dartmoor John Heard dyed 20250 of his black face ewes bright

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orange. Now the police and the farmers are using a piece of hi-

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technology to put a stop to it. Paula an John are piloting a system

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you are more likely to see on an airport than on a farm. It is the

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idea of local police sergeant Scott Pawliss.

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Each sheep has different marksing - - markings, they this is a scan

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that scans the eye. Each retina is unique to the sheep it is like our

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fingerprints. Once that is done it goes tonne a database. The retinas

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are then paired off with the GPS location of where we have scanned

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so that ties a sheep Downton an owner. It means if they are stolen

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we can identify the sheep very easily. So you can stop a trailer,

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scan a sheep and no exactly where it is from and who it should belong

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to? Yes. That is brilliant.

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The police here are getting inquiries from other forces as news

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of the deterrent spreads amongst farmers and the thieves.

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Registering on the system costs �1 a sheep. So protecting over 1,000

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is a big outlay. Paula, is it worth doing? It is. We

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have found it is very successful. This is the first time in a long

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number of years we can say we have not had any sheep taken. On the

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daily count now we are present and correct. So we have to thank the

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sergeant for introducing the pielt scheme to the area.

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Tradition -- introducing the pilot scheme to the area.

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On my family farm we feed the sheeps away from the gates to stop

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them being an easy target, but as the war against the rustlers steps

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up, some farmers see that technology could be a useful weapon.

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Until the retina scanning takes off, there is something else we have to

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think about, good old fashioned neighbourliness and looking out for

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each other. Hopefully this technology will be rolled out

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across the country if it works. We are staying on the subject...

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Mutton dressed as lamb! Oh! mentioned we should embrace this

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fashion? I tend to be mutton dressed as lamb, but the truth is,

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I think a lot of us. We tonight want to be dressed up as pensioners,

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we are, but we don't like to dress up as it. I often get the kids

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stuff, not kids, children, and pop on a gorgeous thing like that!

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you think that women are expected to dress a certain way? Not anymore,

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but there was a thing, never have your hair over your shoulders after

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you are 40 but I intend to have it down to here! Here is somebody

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getting ready for her 0th birthday. We asked for pictures of Patsy,

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this is Laura and her 30th birthday party and she says she can't wait

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for the new episodes. Who do you have here? This is Tom

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and Danny from Liverpool. There is Patsy and Eddie, looking very, very

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good indeed. Look at Margaret Ray, fab! Go

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Margaret. This is sent in by Tess, she is

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getting married at the weekend, that is richel on the right.

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