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Hello and welcome to The One Show, with Alex Jones. | :00:15. | :00:17. | |
Tonight we're joined by a man who became famous on both sides | :00:18. | :00:22. | |
of the Atlantic in the hit US spy drama, Homeland. | :00:23. | :00:27. | |
You admitted to being complicit in some kind of fling with you? But | :00:28. | :00:35. | |
illegal surveillance, the continuing harassment... That's a | :00:36. | :00:40. | |
mischaracterisation. These gentlemen are here to do the same. | :00:41. | :00:46. | |
When I saw you downstairs I was shocked that you didn't have a | :00:47. | :01:01. | |
Birmingham accent. Everybody expects to hear you and you sound American, | :01:02. | :01:07. | |
but that isn't the case. So if you're alright with this we are | :01:08. | :01:12. | |
going to play this clip with you in the American accents but we want the | :01:13. | :01:17. | |
original Harewood accent. This, ladies and gentlemen, a | :01:18. | :01:21. | |
Birminghamland. Here we go. You've been complicit in some kind of fling | :01:22. | :01:27. | |
with you, the illegal surveillance Carrie, the harassment... That's a | :01:28. | :01:32. | |
mischaracterisation. Listen, love, get yourself up the Blues ground on | :01:33. | :01:36. | |
Saturday. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. Brilliant! It | :01:37. | :01:40. | |
gives it a whole different feel. Doesn't it. But you do credit | :01:41. | :01:45. | |
Birmingham for your career, because you say because of the salt of the | :01:46. | :01:49. | |
earth attitude there. They are salt of the earth people. You can't get | :01:50. | :01:54. | |
too above yourself in Birmingham. We like people to be real and as they | :01:55. | :02:00. | |
are, as it were. You do though have a star on the Broad Street walk of | :02:01. | :02:06. | |
frame, do you not? I believe we have a picture of it. I was enormously | :02:07. | :02:12. | |
proud, really proud. It is half pride and half trepidation, because | :02:13. | :02:16. | |
I know exactly what people do on a Saturday night to those stars. What | :02:17. | :02:22. | |
do you mean? I dread to think what goes on the Broad Street on Saturday | :02:23. | :02:27. | |
night, but I'm proud that my star is there. We are going to talk all | :02:28. | :02:31. | |
about The Night Manager shortly. Matt can hardly contain himself. I'm | :02:32. | :02:37. | |
a big fan. He doesn't like much telly but he loves that. | :02:38. | :02:41. | |
Today a British company unveiled to the press something its creators | :02:42. | :02:43. | |
And, as Lucy found out, it is a flying machine that | :02:44. | :02:53. | |
This is the Air Lander. This is Lucy's story behind the world's | :02:54. | :03:02. | |
biggest aircraft. We've long been obsessed with conquering the skies. | :03:03. | :03:06. | |
By the turn of the 20th century the dream of flying had helped create | :03:07. | :03:09. | |
one of the most extraordinary structures the world had ever seen. | :03:10. | :03:21. | |
The airship. At 92 metres long, it dwarfed a 747 jumbo, can carry 10 | :03:22. | :03:26. | |
tonnes offing o and will hold 48 passengers. And this monster is | :03:27. | :03:31. | |
officially the biggest aircraft in the world. Chris Daniels is part of | :03:32. | :03:37. | |
the team that's helped get this project off the ground. It was | :03:38. | :03:41. | |
originally made for a US Army programme. The Government Government | :03:42. | :03:50. | |
spent about ?300 million. The Obama administration withdrew from | :03:51. | :03:53. | |
Afghanistan, took swingeing budget cuts so cancelled the programme. The | :03:54. | :03:59. | |
company offered to buy it for 44 million in instalments, but the | :04:00. | :04:03. | |
Americans could only sell it for a one-off payment and so accepted the | :04:04. | :04:11. | |
best offer on the table. We ended up buying it back for 301,000 dollars | :04:12. | :04:15. | |
and brought it back to the UK. What do you want it for? It does two | :04:16. | :04:19. | |
things no other aircraft can do. One, it stays in the air a long | :04:20. | :04:23. | |
time. That's weeks at a time. The second thing it does is lands and | :04:24. | :04:28. | |
takes off from anywhere and burns very little fuel. So it is very | :04:29. | :04:34. | |
green. We think we can make this electric powered and ultimately put | :04:35. | :04:37. | |
solar panels on the top of the aircraft and have a completely zero | :04:38. | :04:41. | |
carbon aircraft. Let's talk about the facilities. What will passengers | :04:42. | :04:47. | |
experience? You've got pretty much floor to ceiling glass. You can see | :04:48. | :04:52. | |
everything. There is virtually no noise. There is no vibration. You | :04:53. | :04:57. | |
could safely hold a full gin and tonic in there without spilling a | :04:58. | :05:03. | |
drop. Airships of old were used in warfare for transatlantic travel and | :05:04. | :05:08. | |
Arctic exploration. It seems strange now, but these silent giants were | :05:09. | :05:12. | |
once a pretty common sight in our skies. And they were a symbol of | :05:13. | :05:19. | |
modernity. But by 1936, after a number of high-profile accidents, it | :05:20. | :05:23. | |
was the beginning of the end for airships. David Burns is chief test | :05:24. | :05:29. | |
pilot. Are they safe? Do you feel safe? Absolutely, it's very safe, | :05:30. | :05:35. | |
yes. We have all the airships nowadays are helium gas as opposed | :05:36. | :05:39. | |
to hydrogen, which they used in the past. It has four independent | :05:40. | :05:46. | |
engines and if anything fails, I can cope with almost any failure. How | :05:47. | :05:53. | |
does it work? The airship weighs 36 tonnes. Most of that is helium gas. | :05:54. | :05:57. | |
This can do a job that nothing else can do right now. It can move into | :05:58. | :06:03. | |
areas with no infrastructure, disaster relief. Aeroplanes have | :06:04. | :06:07. | |
limited endurance. It can stay airborne for days if you want to. | :06:08. | :06:13. | |
What appeals to you about flying airships? Looking out of the window, | :06:14. | :06:17. | |
the view. For many years, it has been a pipe dream to get the air | :06:18. | :06:23. | |
Lander back in the air, and now the engine has been attached the next | :06:24. | :06:28. | |
stage is to do just that with a test flight. Airships have been built | :06:29. | :06:32. | |
here at cardington for nearly a century now. Although it hasn't | :06:33. | :06:36. | |
always been a happy history, our obsession with conquering the skies | :06:37. | :06:40. | |
continues. Once again the sky is the limit. Thank you Liszt. With the | :06:41. | :06:49. | |
final engine in place the first test flight outside the hangar should be | :06:50. | :06:53. | |
taking place within the next couple of months. Let's talk about The | :06:54. | :06:57. | |
Night Manager now. It is a big, big hit.ening people are feeling it. It | :06:58. | :07:01. | |
is strange for me, because I've been in Los Angeles for the last 8 | :07:02. | :07:05. | |
months. I've watched it on my computer but I had no idea how | :07:06. | :07:08. | |
people were taking to it here. It's been fantastic. Yes, the majority of | :07:09. | :07:12. | |
people have seen it. A small section haven't yet, but you are going to | :07:13. | :07:16. | |
tell them what they are missing out on and why they should be watching | :07:17. | :07:23. | |
it. And why you and Olivia Coleman are trying their best to get Richard | :07:24. | :07:28. | |
Roper. Richard Roper senior an arms dealer. These people exist and some | :07:29. | :07:33. | |
of them are extremely wealthy. They make a lot of money selling horrible | :07:34. | :07:37. | |
weapons to rather dubious regimes all around the world. They are given | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
red carpet treatments around the world, sit at top tables around the | :07:42. | :07:46. | |
world. They a seem to navigate their way through society making a living | :07:47. | :07:53. | |
off these truly awful weapons. And you play an American character in | :07:54. | :08:00. | |
the CIA. I've become a professional American. I play Joel Steadman and | :08:01. | :08:03. | |
myself and Olivia Coleman, who I think we've had a bit of a | :08:04. | :08:05. | |
history... Oh, do you?! Yes, think we've had a bit of a | :08:06. | :08:16. | |
have. Hang on... I saw the way her hair went behind her ear. Olivia | :08:17. | :08:21. | |
Coleman is pregnant, so is the baby yours? Not in real life! | :08:22. | :08:24. | |
Coleman is pregnant, so is the baby LAUGHTER It is suggested we may have | :08:25. | :08:28. | |
had previous dealings. I missed that bit. It must have been when I fell | :08:29. | :08:36. | |
asleep temporarily. The finale is on Sunday and so far your characters | :08:37. | :08:38. | |
aren't having much Sunday and so far your characters | :08:39. | :08:43. | |
to the bottom of it. We are going to she an exclusive clip. We can't show | :08:44. | :08:46. | |
you in it, because that would give the game away, but please introduce | :08:47. | :08:51. | |
it. Tom Hiddleston's character has so far managed to avoid being outed | :08:52. | :08:53. | |
as the spy he really is, but so far managed to avoid being outed | :08:54. | :09:00. | |
back in the Nefertiti Hotel in care oi where all this began. And boy is | :09:01. | :09:03. | |
this tense Ultimatum the prodigal wife brought to heel. Brought to | :09:04. | :09:13. | |
heel by what Roper left me an offer, let bygones be bygones. Maybe he | :09:14. | :09:18. | |
wanted someone to spy on his girlfriend. Careful, carree. The | :09:19. | :09:27. | |
sun's hot out there. APPLAUSE. Oh! | :09:28. | :09:35. | |
CHEERING. I completely underestimated how difficult it was | :09:36. | :09:40. | |
going to be being an American in amongst so much British voices. That | :09:41. | :09:45. | |
was probably one of the eest things I've done as an actor, trying to | :09:46. | :09:49. | |
keep this character. It is based on a book. Are there any rumblings of | :09:50. | :09:58. | |
any more? More?. There's a rumour of a Night Manager 2. | :09:59. | :10:02. | |
CHEERING. It would be fantastic to be a part of. Hopefully things work | :10:03. | :10:06. | |
out and I get to reprise the role. That's music to my ears. I'll be | :10:07. | :10:13. | |
having withdrawal symptoms. It is a classic British spy drama. We wish | :10:14. | :10:20. | |
we did more of them. Le Carre, he's second to none. Back to Homeland for | :10:21. | :10:26. | |
a second. You say getting that role saved your career. Yes. You did a | :10:27. | :10:30. | |
documentary all about failure and how it is good for you in some ways | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
to experience that. You've met, well, Olivia Coleman is one of the | :10:36. | :10:39. | |
people you feature in the couplery. Tell us a bit about it. I want to | :10:40. | :10:50. | |
the do not a warts and all expose about the business, people think we | :10:51. | :10:56. | |
are choosing which script we want to do next and turning scripts down, | :10:57. | :11:00. | |
but for most actors it is a struggle. Even when you reach a | :11:01. | :11:03. | |
certain level, there is no guarantee you will go on to have a successful | :11:04. | :11:08. | |
career. I wanted to give people a feel of what it is like to audition, | :11:09. | :11:12. | |
particularly in America. It can be brutal. You can walk into a room | :11:13. | :11:18. | |
with 8 people, some looking at their phone or out of the window. You | :11:19. | :11:22. | |
could be Ian MacShane or a beginner, but you one into the room and you | :11:23. | :11:26. | |
are treated the same. You get 8 minutes or 3 minutes, and you are | :11:27. | :11:30. | |
out. They don't say fantastic, or well done, just thank you, and you | :11:31. | :11:34. | |
are gone. Sometimes you get the role and sometimes it is cheers, all the | :11:35. | :11:41. | |
best. The documentary is for younger actors and for people who are | :11:42. | :11:46. | |
perhaps experiencing tough times to say that that's just part of the | :11:47. | :11:50. | |
process. That's just what we do. Don't take it personally. It is not | :11:51. | :11:54. | |
something you should take to hear. It is just what we do as actors And | :11:55. | :12:02. | |
that's on Sky Arts? You can download it and watch it again. You can catch | :12:03. | :12:06. | |
the final episode of The Night Manager on Sunday 9 o'clock on BBC | :12:07. | :12:15. | |
One. Shortly Frank Gardner will be helping us separate surveillance | :12:16. | :12:19. | |
fact from fiction. But first a report from one of our own agent, | :12:20. | :12:27. | |
who has gathered inedge on the song which saved the careers of two boys | :12:28. | :12:30. | |
from your neck of the woods. Fantastic. 20 years ago a young band | :12:31. | :12:38. | |
from Birmingham was riding the gravy train to the top of the charts when | :12:39. | :12:44. | |
their second album scored four top 20 hits, including this one. But | :12:45. | :12:49. | |
just a few years earlier the fallout following the release of their first | :12:50. | :12:53. | |
album nearly derailed their whole career. It started here in Moseley | :12:54. | :12:58. | |
Birmingham, this renowned restaurant was once a music venue called the | :12:59. | :13:06. | |
Jug of Ale. This was our HQ. It is was where all of our friends were. | :13:07. | :13:11. | |
All the bands came here at some point. We were quickly the best band | :13:12. | :13:15. | |
in Birmingham. We were one of the only band in Birmingham in all | :13:16. | :13:20. | |
honesty. Just us and UB 40. They were soon being feted on TV. This | :13:21. | :13:25. | |
week we leave you with Ocean Colour Scene. They give the Late Show a | :13:26. | :13:32. | |
sneak preview. They reported their first album and the record company | :13:33. | :13:37. | |
brought in a top producer, Jimmy Miller. He was The Rolling Stones | :13:38. | :13:44. | |
producer from '67 to '73. He lieblgd to drink. A bottle-and-a-half of | :13:45. | :13:48. | |
whisky a day. Despite the band's admiration for Jimmy the record | :13:49. | :13:52. | |
company quickly removed him from the project. Ocean colour scene felt | :13:53. | :13:57. | |
directionless and it hased the end result. The album went nowhere. It | :13:58. | :14:01. | |
doesn't sound like us. It was made by a record company and we were bit | :14:02. | :14:06. | |
parts nit. I think everyone said let's leave this, this isn't | :14:07. | :14:10. | |
working. Looking back I'm glad it didn't happen for us Thirsk time | :14:11. | :14:15. | |
round. We weren't good enough. During this time, Steve started | :14:16. | :14:18. | |
working with another musician who had become a good friend of the | :14:19. | :14:23. | |
band, Paul Weller. With Steve away on tour, Simon was inspired to write | :14:24. | :14:29. | |
a song about the Who's rock opera, Quadrophenia. What was it about | :14:30. | :14:33. | |
Jimmy from Quadrophenia that you connected with? He was the classic | :14:34. | :14:39. | |
everyman, the rebel in every teenage lad, which I used to be. But the | :14:40. | :14:46. | |
song was also strongly influenced by another Jimmy. Jimmy Miller, their | :14:47. | :14:51. | |
former producer who the band greatly missed. He was a fascinating bloke. | :14:52. | :14:58. | |
In many ways an appalling person but one of the most entertaining people | :14:59. | :15:04. | |
I've ever met. We were proud that he was our mate really. He would come | :15:05. | :15:07. | |
everywhere with us. He was brilliant. He was brilliant. | :15:08. | :15:14. | |
Despite being sacked by the record company, Jimmy Miller made a lasting | :15:15. | :15:22. | |
impact on the Ocean Colour Scene sound. And it worked. In 1996, their | :15:23. | :15:29. | |
second album, Moseley Shoals, was released to critical acclaim, | :15:30. | :15:35. | |
swiftly followed by chart success. The Day We Caught The Train became | :15:36. | :15:43. | |
their biggest hit. I remember the chorus, it basically goes... And I | :15:44. | :15:49. | |
said, who do you think is going to sing one? When it came to that part | :15:50. | :15:54. | |
at Knebworth, there was 125,000 people doing it! Did it feel | :15:55. | :16:01. | |
different the second time around Emily yes, it did, it felt like it | :16:02. | :16:06. | |
was our time. Within weeks, we were pop stars, which seemed most Julia, | :16:07. | :16:13. | |
after seven years. This year, the band is celebrating the 20th | :16:14. | :16:19. | |
anniversary of that hit album, Moseley Shoals, joined by the new | :16:20. | :16:26. | |
bass player, Ray Mead. For a lot of people, it was one of the albums | :16:27. | :16:31. | |
which mark that period. And I guess it makes us very proud, really. | :16:32. | :16:46. | |
Good song, that! I swear, you can't stop... Another Birmingham band. Did | :16:47. | :17:01. | |
you like them? Fantastic, fantastic. David's new series is a good | :17:02. | :17:05. | |
old-fashioned spy thorough. And of course, surveillance is high in the | :17:06. | :17:10. | |
news at the moment, and Frank Gardner joins us now. It looks like | :17:11. | :17:16. | |
the Investigatory Powers Bill is going to get passed? It looks like | :17:17. | :17:20. | |
very much it will happen. Some people have insultingly called it | :17:21. | :17:25. | |
the Snooper's Charter. It modernises and updates the existing legislation | :17:26. | :17:30. | |
and throws in something new, which is to force internet service | :17:31. | :17:33. | |
providers to keep a record for up to 12 months of every single website | :17:34. | :17:38. | |
everybody has accessed. That is very controversial. But it does have | :17:39. | :17:43. | |
checks and balances. There will be a new judicial commissioner, as well | :17:44. | :17:46. | |
as the Secretary of State, who has got to sign off. We will come back | :17:47. | :17:50. | |
to that. But while we are talking about getting your hands on | :17:51. | :17:54. | |
information, and with David here as well, we're going to look at some | :17:55. | :17:58. | |
techniques used by spies in the movies and what have you. But we | :17:59. | :18:03. | |
need your help, Frank, in separating fact from fiction. The first one is | :18:04. | :18:11. | |
The Night Manager. We are seeing a champagne bottle being emptied, with | :18:12. | :18:17. | |
Sim cards. This is the character of Tom Hiddleston who has taken these | :18:18. | :18:22. | |
from a wastepaper bin, passed them to the security services, so that | :18:23. | :18:26. | |
the spooks can actually access the phone records. This is comms data. | :18:27. | :18:33. | |
This is pretty vanilla stuff, not actually very high-tech. Is it | :18:34. | :18:39. | |
legal? Well, actually, he is not actually an operative at that stage, | :18:40. | :18:42. | |
Tom Hiddleston, but this is potentially misuse of the act. So in | :18:43. | :18:46. | |
order for them to do that, they would actually have to get some kind | :18:47. | :18:51. | |
of a warrant to do that. So the idea that they can listen to our phone | :18:52. | :18:56. | |
conversations, the idea of metadata, is it true, is it something we | :18:57. | :18:59. | |
should be wary of, that the Government are sleeping? It depends | :19:00. | :19:04. | |
if you listen to Edward Snowden, who would say, absolutely, yes, you | :19:05. | :19:09. | |
should be wary. Others would say, no, it is the spooks keeping you | :19:10. | :19:13. | |
safe. It is a question of who gets the information. If it is spooks and | :19:14. | :19:17. | |
counter-terrorism, most people do not have a problem with that. Who | :19:18. | :19:21. | |
wants to see another Paris event here? If it gets passed on to other | :19:22. | :19:27. | |
people, it is a problem. Let's now have a look at another one, Enemy Of | :19:28. | :19:33. | |
The State. What is going on, Frank? This is nearly 20 years old. Will | :19:34. | :19:39. | |
Smith as been bunged by the National Security Agency. In the soul of the | :19:40. | :19:48. | |
shoe, there is a little bug. This is old school. They do not really need | :19:49. | :19:52. | |
to do that any more these days. What do you carry around every day, all | :19:53. | :19:58. | |
day, which tracks everywhere you go? Your mobile phone. So they do not | :19:59. | :20:02. | |
need to do that kind of intrusive, personal budding. They could do, but | :20:03. | :20:07. | |
they do not need to. Is there any truth in the rumour that Google | :20:08. | :20:10. | |
listens to your conversation? People say they could be talking about | :20:11. | :20:15. | |
butternut squash and then three days later, butternut squash pops up, an | :20:16. | :20:20. | |
advert for it, in their internet browser. Is that true? I don't know | :20:21. | :20:26. | |
about Google, but if you are online, if you are using the internet, then | :20:27. | :20:30. | |
almost certainly, yes, because they will look at your browsing tips. But | :20:31. | :20:35. | |
I think you are talking about the spooks. Sure, they can listen to | :20:36. | :20:39. | |
your phone as a potential listening device, and so is your laptop. Thank | :20:40. | :20:46. | |
you so much, Frank. On the 23rd of June, we will all be asked what on | :20:47. | :20:49. | |
the face of it sounds like a very simple question - "Should the United | :20:50. | :20:52. | |
Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European | :20:53. | :20:55. | |
Union?" But how many of us really know what effect leaving all | :20:56. | :21:01. | |
remaining will have? We have got Chris Mason, AKA Mr Referendum, the | :21:02. | :21:08. | |
referendum's biggest fan. He loves it like only a mother could! He is | :21:09. | :21:12. | |
here to help us through the confusing detail! Before we speak to | :21:13. | :21:17. | |
Chris, here are four people who have already made their minds up. | :21:18. | :21:24. | |
I am Tom Jones, I am a Welsh sheep farmer, and I am voting out. I think | :21:25. | :21:32. | |
we should leave the EU, from a farming industry point of view, I | :21:33. | :21:36. | |
think it would help build a more resilient, more sustainable | :21:37. | :21:40. | |
industry. I am not saying it would be easy. There are some tough times | :21:41. | :21:45. | |
ahead, but as an industry, we should be standing on our own two feet. | :21:46. | :21:49. | |
There might be some drawbacks to leaving the EU, but I don't think | :21:50. | :21:55. | |
the culture of support payments is breeding a progressive, | :21:56. | :21:58. | |
forward-thinking industry. The EU is a massive consumer of Welsh lamb, | :21:59. | :22:02. | |
one of our biggest customers. An exit from the EU might put that into | :22:03. | :22:07. | |
jeopardy, but we produce a world-class product and I am | :22:08. | :22:10. | |
confident that there will still be consumers therefore it. What it will | :22:11. | :22:15. | |
open up is new markets, be it Asia or the Americas, for our lamb or | :22:16. | :22:18. | |
beef, reduced to world-class standards, in some of the best | :22:19. | :22:20. | |
conditions you will ever find. Hi, I am Sharon, Gtech of Crystal | :22:21. | :22:35. | |
Clear International. We make skin care products, and I am voting to | :22:36. | :22:43. | |
stay in. I think it is absolute madness to even consider breaking | :22:44. | :22:47. | |
away from the European Union. It is all about growing business in the | :22:48. | :22:50. | |
UK, and we are putting a lot of money and support into growing | :22:51. | :22:54. | |
business. Why would we even consider coming away from 28 countries, which | :22:55. | :22:58. | |
does make us a lot stronger, and all the protection that it offers, even | :22:59. | :23:04. | |
to the regulations? I know, with skincare, we are bound by European | :23:05. | :23:09. | |
rules, which is good thing, because it protects the British consumer. | :23:10. | :23:13. | |
Also, for me as a company, we do a lot of innovation, a lot of our | :23:14. | :23:18. | |
products, we own all of our own patents. Suddenly to have to start | :23:19. | :23:21. | |
looking at each member state and say, we are going to protect it in | :23:22. | :23:27. | |
Germany, in Spain, would be an absolute nightmare. But more | :23:28. | :23:30. | |
importantly, it would cost us a fortune. | :23:31. | :23:38. | |
Hello, I am an entrepreneur and I run a PR company. And I say we need | :23:39. | :23:47. | |
to be out of the EU. Too many reasons. From a personal post, one | :23:48. | :23:54. | |
of them is trade and talent. Trade, I feel, why should we just be | :23:55. | :23:58. | |
focused on Europe's stagnating economy when we have the rest of the | :23:59. | :24:02. | |
world, and the Commonwealth which Britain already has relationships | :24:03. | :24:08. | |
with? And with the economy moving eastwards, with India and China, I | :24:09. | :24:12. | |
think it is silly for us to be insular and only look to Europe. | :24:13. | :24:16. | |
From a talent perspective, we are, beating with the rest of the world. | :24:17. | :24:20. | |
Why restrict our talent pools to Europe? I think there will be | :24:21. | :24:24. | |
jitters, issues to be resolved. There will be a lack of confidence | :24:25. | :24:29. | |
in Britain leaving the EU, which will result in an impact on the | :24:30. | :24:34. | |
stock market and foreign investment. However, once everybody comes to | :24:35. | :24:38. | |
terms with the exit, I think in the long term it will be better for the | :24:39. | :24:40. | |
I think in the long term it will be better for the UK. | :24:41. | :24:47. | |
Hello, my name is John. I am a taxi driver in Manchester and I am voting | :24:48. | :24:57. | |
to stay in. Hello, where are you going? Being part of Europe is | :24:58. | :25:03. | |
essential for our growth and development and future. I personally | :25:04. | :25:08. | |
have benefited from being in Europe. I have been on courses which have | :25:09. | :25:11. | |
been funded by the European Union. I have also noticed as I have driven | :25:12. | :25:15. | |
around Manchester and various places in the north, funded by the European | :25:16. | :25:20. | |
fund for this or that. So it really makes a difference. I feel that | :25:21. | :25:25. | |
being part of this huge marketplace as well as the economy, and | :25:26. | :25:29. | |
culturally it gives us benefits as well. Most people in Europe love the | :25:30. | :25:34. | |
UK. Everybody I speak to who comes over to Manchester from anywhere in | :25:35. | :25:38. | |
Europe seems over the moon that they are in the UK, it is a great place | :25:39. | :25:42. | |
to visit. Surely being a member of this club must be worth it. I think | :25:43. | :25:46. | |
it is a question of being in this European market, where we have got | :25:47. | :25:50. | |
free travel and we can come and go as we please throughout Europe. I | :25:51. | :25:53. | |
think it is a club which is definitely worth being in. | :25:54. | :25:58. | |
Those four were clearly concerned about the effect the result will | :25:59. | :26:05. | |
have on their business. We will be looking at other aspects of the | :26:06. | :26:08. | |
debate in the coming weeks. We have got Chris Mason with us. Your job... | :26:09. | :26:15. | |
Is a nightmare! It is a bit of a nightmare, because on behalf of the | :26:16. | :26:20. | |
BBC, your job is to get people excited about the referendum, which | :26:21. | :26:24. | |
let's face it is not easy. It is a tough gig, because the EU can be | :26:25. | :26:28. | |
baffling and a bit boring, because it is so complicated. People think, | :26:29. | :26:34. | |
I'm not sure I want to engage with that! It is a bit like when you take | :26:35. | :26:39. | |
your car in for an MOT, and you turn up to collect it, and the mechanic | :26:40. | :26:43. | |
has got the keys on the desk, and he says, you can have it back, but do | :26:44. | :26:47. | |
you want this carburettor or that carburettor? I just wanted to go! It | :26:48. | :26:52. | |
is a political institution, you expect it to get on with itself and | :26:53. | :26:56. | |
either have a relationship with the UK or not. And suddenly we have got | :26:57. | :27:01. | |
to come to a judgment in three months and two days. As we saw from | :27:02. | :27:06. | |
the film, it is clear that there is no right answer for everybody. Is | :27:07. | :27:10. | |
that what struck you? Yes, when you look at the film, you see the kind | :27:11. | :27:15. | |
of conversations which are going on, when people ARE willing to engage! | :27:16. | :27:18. | |
And white at the heart of it are facts which can be contested. You | :27:19. | :27:22. | |
can hear two facts and you think, they contradict each other. One of | :27:23. | :27:26. | |
them surely must be wrong. Take John in the film, who was saying, he | :27:27. | :27:31. | |
would go along to a course paid for by the EU. So he will say, thumbs up | :27:32. | :27:36. | |
to Brussels. Others would say, hang on, we pay more into that club then | :27:37. | :27:41. | |
we get out because we are relatively rich, and it is kind of British | :27:42. | :27:44. | |
money which has gone into a European bank account and been sent back. The | :27:45. | :27:49. | |
lady who was saying, time to get out, we have got a great | :27:50. | :27:53. | |
relationship with the Commonwealth, who needs EU? And yet others, people | :27:54. | :27:59. | |
on the inside, would say, maybe you can have a bit of both. So those | :28:00. | :28:03. | |
facts can contradict each other, all over this debate. I was thinking, | :28:04. | :28:09. | |
what side are you on? Looking at your tie first of all, talk us | :28:10. | :28:14. | |
through that. This is strict BBC impartiality. The EU flag normally | :28:15. | :28:18. | |
has 12 stars on it, so this one has got five and two halves of the other | :28:19. | :28:25. | |
thing is, BBC reporters always say, on the one hand this, on the other | :28:26. | :28:30. | |
hand that. Never mind that. On the 1ft this... On the other foot that! | :28:31. | :28:38. | |
He is good, isn't he?! You will have to come back, my friend. | :28:39. | :28:40. | |
That's all we've got time for tonight. | :28:41. | :28:42. | |
The final episode of The Night Manager is this Sunday, | :28:43. | :28:47. | |
Join us tomorrow, when Daniel Mays will be here. | :28:48. | :28:53. |