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Hello and welcome to

The One Show with Alex Jones.

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And Matt Baker.

People are saying our guests

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tonight have just filmed

the worst movie ever made.

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And, after seeing it myself today,

I see what they mean.

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Action!

You have to say a cloud, I

can't hear you. -- say it loud.

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Action!

I didn't hear you. Oh, hi,

Mark.

Where are you looking?

It

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doesn't work if you're looking at

the camera.

What?

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They're brothers so let's see

if they blame each other!

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It's James and David Franco.

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Brilliant.

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We should explain.

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The action in your film, it is

hilarious, it's not often that I

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laughed out loud.

Did you say that

we were making a movie about the

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worst movie?

It is about a famously

bad movie made in 2003 called The

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Room.

Not to be compared with the

Brie Larson Oscar-winning film!

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Which was great, incredible

performance, deserving the Oscar.

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For a while, they had to say "The

Room, not the Brie Larson...". But

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the director and star of The Room in

the film I star in that it out in

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theatres for two weeks even though

nobody saw it, he paid for it

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himself, so he would qualify for the

Academy Awards.

Was never going to

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happen, was it?

It has cult status,

the original film.

Since then.

The

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rituals that people have when they

see Ed, the cutlery?

In a way it's

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the new Rocky Horror picture show,

there is this audience

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participation. It has gone on for 14

and a half years and there are

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specific call-backs to the screen.

One thing people do, they bring

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plastic spoons because in the film

there are these picture frames with

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spoons in them.

How did you notice

that?

You've got to watch The Room

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with people who have seen it a bunch

of times, there are a bunch of

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Easter wrecks.

When they made the

original movie they said to Tommy,

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the director, shouldn't we have some

pictures on the wall, make it look

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like people live here -- Easter

eggs. There were stock photos of

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spoons and they said, Tommy, should

we put photos of the characters so

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it looks like they live here? He

said, don't worry, if they are

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looking at the spoons they are

looking at the wrong thing. 14 years

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later, whenever the spoons come up,

people yell spoons in the theatre

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and throw plastic spoons.

It could

be real knives and forks which would

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be more dangerous. We would like

photos of you with your brothers,

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because we have James and Dave with

us. Tell us what you do together,

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send us a photo and we will show you

at the end of the show.

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In a moment we'll be meeting

a lurcher called Red

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who is looking for a home.

He was abandoned by hare

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coursers, criminals who use

dogs to hunt wild hare.

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The practice is illegal but,

as Matt Allwright's been finding

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out, it's still flourishing,

particularly in Lincolnshire

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where innocent farmers are powerless

to stop their fields being used

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These men are taking part in the

hare coursing, placing bets on which

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of their dogs will catch wild hare

in a chase to the death. Hare

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coursing may now be illegal but that

hasn't stopped its popularity and

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this is the perfect place for it.

Driven by the high-stakes gambling

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of this blood sport, criminal gangs

are prepared to travel miles to

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trust pass on farmland like this in

Lincolnshire. The rural policing

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team is led by Chief Inspector Jim

Tiner.

2000 incidents last year,

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this is what criminals do on their

day off, it is enjoyed by people

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with links to organised crime.

But

the police are now taking action to

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stop it. I'm hitting the road with

wildlife crime officer Nick Willie

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as part of a special operation to

stop the hare coursing.

Often they

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will drive through gates to stop us

because they know that our policy is

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that we will arrest and sees dogs

and we cause.

We get our first call.

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Locals have spotted what they

suspect is a carload of hare courses

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in a nearby fee. And sure enough, we

spot them too. The vehicle is just

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up there on the right.

Yes, I've got

the vehicle in front of me, whiskey

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01. Going across fields at speed.

This gang clearly don't like being

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hunted themselves. And they'll do

just about anything to avoid being

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caught.

Vehicle at speeds towards

you now. Move out of the way, let me

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through, please.

With the hare

course is willing to drive at high

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speed through the village, Nick has

no choice but to call off the chase.

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It is unsafe to continue. It is a

right.

The Red Subaru was later

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found burnt out over 100 miles away

on the board of Berkshire and

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Surrey. But it's not just the hare

coursers' reckless driving that is

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putting the blackness, threats of

violence and intimidation to farmers

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are now at an all-time high. William

and his family have worked this land

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for five generations.

We put these

here to stop these guys coming on,

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we're trying to barricade it and

keep them out but we are also

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barricading ourselves in.

The

makeshift security measures at this

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2000 acre farm don't always keep out

the coursers, as William found to

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his cost in July.

Two came at me and

got hold of me and out of nowhere

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another one had a wheel brace, got

out of his car and hit me, taking

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off the end of my nose. Worrying

that that is their first course of

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action, to clobber the farmer.

Back

on the road there's been another

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sighting of suspected hare coursers

on the other side of the county.

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Another police vehicle here so we

suspect they are on the right.

There

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they are, moaning on -- running

across the field.

An officer

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approaches the men but they aren't

hanging around. We've got a blue

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four-wheel drive heading down. A

police car tries to block their

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path. Its stopping. It's gone past

the police vehicle. It's now coming

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down our way.

He's absolutely

flying.

Brake, brake. In his haste

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to escape justice the driver has

left one of his gang behind.

We

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think he's now in this group of the

trees. It isn't a big space. They

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are going to use technology to see

if they can find him. With so much

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ground to cover when one of the hare

coursers takes off on foot the team

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uses drones to pinpoint their

whereabouts more quickly but after

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an hour-long search, there's no sign

of him.

The last person to see him

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said they went in there. There's

definitely nothing in there.

He may

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have had a narrow escape on this

occasion but as police continue

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their crackdown, next time he may

not be so lucky. With hare coursers

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still at large, William continue to

feel deeply concerned for his

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safety.

What happened to me is bad

enough but I've a great fear that

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someone could end up being killed by

hare coursers.

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Rebecca Harper from the RSPCA is

here with a lurcher, Met, who wasn't

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involved in that situation but is

from the area of Lincolnshire --

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Red. Tell me about Red and his

situation.

Sadly his situation isn't

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unusual, we come across it a lot. He

was found on a day when coursers had

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been in the area, he was lucky to be

found by a member of the public late

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in the afternoon on a remote road.

He was tied up to a bush with

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plastic twine about this high, so he

couldn't lay down otherwise he would

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have strangled himself and he had a

broken leg, which was just hanging.

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They phoned us and we facilitated

getting him to a vet and he is care

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has been taken on by the local

RSPCA. He is available for

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re-homing, his leg has been

amputated and he has healed

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brilliantly. When these dogs are no

longer an asset, they just get

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dumped and left and picked up as

strays or abandon.

I'm sure you'll

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be inundated with people interested

in homing Red but what kind of

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family would be ideal?

As you can

see he is very chilled out. We

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normally ask for homes without small

children because of the history

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where they've come from but older

children and teenagers, he is great

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with other dogs, he is well

socialised. Have to be careful with

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small furry animals, the instinct is

to chase.

That is what he had been

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bred for.

So, no cats or hamsters,

sometimes small dogs we'd be careful

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with. Otherwise anyone who is

active, even though he only has

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three legs he is very active and

very fast. Someone who can give him

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love and affection.

In your eyes,

what's the best way of trying to

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tackle this? We saw the police

trying to be proactive but where is

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it going to hit hardest as far as

the coursers are concerned?

It's

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difficult to say how it can be

solved easily but from the RSPCA

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point of view we'd like, where there

is evidence, the stronger offence is

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being prosecuted. Hunting with dogs,

and where applicable, the animal

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welfare act. Offences that include

penalties of disqualification so

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they are allowed to own dogs, solar

dogs that have been taken can be

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kept permanently and they can be

billed for the cost of the dogs

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being kept in kennels while the

matter goes through court. And if

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they are disqualified, if the police

stopped them, even if they are doing

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nothing criminal, if they are in

control of a dog it is a criminal

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offence because they'll be breaching

the disqualification. The police can

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take the dogs straightaway from

them, thereby stopping their source

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of entertainment and money. These

dogs are used for betting large sums

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of money, they become valuable, the

more they win the more valuable they

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are. They are also used for breeding

and money comes from that as well.

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So a small fine or criminal record

makes little difference but if we

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can get the evidence for the

disqualify or a ban, that is better.

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You have made good friends during

that.

There is a good chance I'd

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take this guy! I wish I could. I've

got two enormous cats.

You are a cat

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man.

All animals.

Tell you what,

your brother, got to watch him, he

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is a right next because he told us

that in the past you had a cat

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calendar -- he's a right snitch.

I've got to stop talking about my

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cats in every interview but I don't

know, I'm an overbearing parent!

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We've got a props Dave who helps out

at a local cat sanctuary and this is

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their calendar.

Going right to my

heart, man. I'll take it.

Thank you,

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Rebecca.

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The Ashes get under way in Australia

at midnight tomorrow.

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We don't want to typecast

you but we're guessing that

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like many Americans you don't

really get cricket?

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If anyone gets anything about it, he

does.

I don't get much!

Don't worry!

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All you need to know is that England

started playing Australia in 1877

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and since then there has been

sporting warfare between the two

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countries, OK?

Joe went to find out

how a new form of the game has

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inspired other players including

mighty Moeen Ali.

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When talking about cricket one

immediately thinks of long summer

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days playing on the manicured

village pitch, the sound of leather

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on willow. But not here in stony

parks Hill, in Birmingham. This is

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Street cricket. Street cricket was

pioneered in Karachi, Pakistan, in

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the 60s. With a lack of proper

equipment or grounds, eager players

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found a cheap and simple solution.

It is this, a tennis ball wrapped in

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electrical tape. It gives it a

little bit more weight and a nice

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grip, which means you get fantastic

speed. This is a quick game. Making

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it perfect to play on tarmac streets

or clearings. How is it different?

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You don't have to wear a helmet,

pads or loves. One team faces 20

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bowls. In professional cricket you

can score anywhere you want but in

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this one you can only go straight.

Street cricket has become so

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successful it has produced a number

of international cricketers and

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there are three of them over there.

Forget Edgbaston, this is your home

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ground?

It is, this is where I

started my career, really.

What is

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it about this version of the game?

What skills does it give people?

You

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learn so much about angles. You

ended up hitting a lot more balls,

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bowling a lot more yorkers than you

do at a club.

He's hit that! It

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helped Moeen Ali get started and now

it has backing from the England and

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Wales Cricket board. Is there still

and image problem, people think

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about the village green?

Yes, we are

proud that it is traditional, but it

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is more than that, a game anyone can

play. They don't need the pads and

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equipment. A great opportunity for

talented youngsters to pick up the

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bat and potentially go into a more

traditional pathway and take the

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game into more urban areas.

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Larsson what do you make of this

form of the game?

It is great fun,

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it is good to be involved, it is

free and easy and you do not need

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much equipment. You have crates and

bins on the side. People think

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cricket is an expensive game, but

you see this today and it is so easy

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and everyone gets involved.

These

guys have got some skills.

Watching

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from the sides you do not realise

how quick it is until you get in the

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firing line.

Street cricket is not

about winning, it is the taking

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part. Anyone can have a go, even me.

This feels like a fibre for cricket.

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For us there are quite a few lads

who get into the park and it is a

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good way that communities come

together.

Would it give us the

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English stars of tomorrow? You'll

yes, it will. Moeen Ali started here

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and he has ended up being one of the

best players in the world. That is

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where he started. You have had a

blistering summer, you must be quite

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excited about going to play for

England in the winter.

I am excited,

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I know it is going to be hard. I am

staying as calm as I can and

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forgetting about what is happening

and taking the confidence from the

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summer and going out to Australia

and performing well for the team.

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Hey!

We need to get a tennis ball and

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wrap it in electrical tape and give

it to him for Christmas.

I know you

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will do that!

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I know you will do that!

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If you're a night owl,

Test Match Special will provide

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ball-by-ball commentary of all Tests

on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra.

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Let's talk about The Disaster

Artist. Between you you have got a

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back catalogue. 127 Hours. The

Spiderman franchise.

You watched the

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movie.

You have been in bad

neighbours, 21 jump St, but you have

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never done a major movie together.

This is the first time. Why has it

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taken so long?

That is on me. When I

first started my career I did not

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have a choice to go off on my own in

terms of work because I did not want

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to pick my own path and I wanted to

stand on my own two feet. But he is

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my brother and this felt like the

right timing and the right project.

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We need the right dynamic between

these characters and we really

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understood that relationship and I

am glad I said yes because it has

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been one of the more enjoyable times

I have had onset.

Did you ask him to

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do it?

I came to the whole thing

through the book that the other

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actor in That Room wrote. Before I

was halfway done with that book I

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knew a few things. I knew I wanted

to play Tommy and I wanted my

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brother to play Greg. I thought,

this is the one. He will say yes. I

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knew we had the right dynamic for

it.

It is perfect.

They had this

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very unusual, close friendship like

they were almost like brothers. And

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thank God my own brother said yes.

The main characters Tommy and Greg

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failed to take off in LA, so after

another rejection a plan, why not

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make their own film? This is when

Tommy presents the script to Greg.

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That Room. Yes, nobody has read it

yet. You will be the first one.

I

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cannot believe it, man, that you did

this. You will play Mark. You want

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me to play Mark.

It is a big role.

Certainly it is, you want me to play

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it?

Johnny Depp did not want it. It

is like you say, Hollywood rejects

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us, so we do it on our own.

You have

got prosthetics on there.

I have got

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a lot, my cheeks, my nose, chin,

eyelids, awake and contact lenses.

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Is it right that you were doing it

in character?

I did.

How did that

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work?

It was very strange.

Technically he stayed in character

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while directing. But that does not

mean he adopted Tommy Wiseau's

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personality. He was still James, but

he was speaking to us through this

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voice and the prosthetics. That does

not make it any less weird.

It got a

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bit confusing sometimes because I

would say, OK, we go again. Then

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they would ask is that Tommy James?

Tommy says he is from America. He is

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clearly not, he has a European

accent, but nobody knows hardly

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anything about this guy who financed

this film with £6 million.

Of his

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own money. That is the beauty of

Tommy. There are three mysteries,

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where he is from, because he sounds

like Eastern Europe, but he says he

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is a New Orleans all-American guy

and he stuck to that. He was at

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least in his late 40s when he made

the film but he said he was in his

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20s. And, yes, where he got the

money from. He had a denim retail

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store in San Francisco.

Really?

He

told the a few weeks ago, James, I

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got it selling Levi jeans. You do

not know anything about retailing!

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So he has seen the movie?

He loves

it, he has seen our movie three

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times. He says he approves 99.9%.

The 1% if he does not like the way I

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depict him throwing a football

because I do not throw it very well.

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He thinks he is better?

Yes, he is

an all-American guy.

But his

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original gripe with the movie...

He

said 99.1%. You would think he would

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say I never did this or I never did

that. But he said, James, I think

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you should have a look at the

lighting at the beginning of the

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film.

But you just remembered this

today, he was wearing sunglasses

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when he was watching the felon.

It

was a bit dodgy.

You will never get

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your brother back, his voice has

changed.

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changed.

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The Disaster Artist is released

in selected cinemas from 1st

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of December and nationwide from 6th

December and if you're in London

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this week you can see the original

film The Room at The Prince Charles

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Cinema until Friday.

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Take your spoons.

Exactly.

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Exactly.

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What's it like, I'm

wondering, having a job that

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sends people to sleep.

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I've no idea, Alex!

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But what I do know is that there

is predicted to be a shortage

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of anaesthetists in the not too

distant future and Kevin Fong

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wants to put that right.

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I have spent my career sending

people to sleep, not because I am

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dull, but because I am a consultant

anaesthetist. It is one of the most

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misunderstood specialities in

medicine. I have come to the Royal

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United Hospital in Bath to follow a

couple of trainees around for the

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day. We have got Jamie who has only

just finished his second year.

Can

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we have a quick listen to your

heart?

And Robert who has done just

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18 months of training. The stakes

are high. Anaesthetists deal with

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the sickest patients and the most

potent drugs. It will take them

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eight years to fully qualified.

Getting through that training is one

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of the toughest things I have ever

done. Today Rob is working in

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elective surgery. Can you open your

mouth? His first operation with Mary

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is not going to be easy. Less than

straightforward case for Rob today.

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This lady has arthritis which

affects the way her neck moves, she

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has problems with her breathing, her

heart does not pump as efficiently

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as it should and all of that affects

all of the drugs they need to give

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the anaesthetic and that is why this

case will be relatively minor

0:25:080:25:12

surgery with a major anaesthetic.

You have got a drug to get the

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patient off to sleep and pain relief

and anti-sickness medication and we

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are using a muscle relaxant to keep

the patient still during surgery.

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Rob has to get the doses exactly

right. A slight miscalculation could

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be fatal and there has to be a

careful balance of drugs injected as

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well as inhaled and that is where

the skill lies. Anaesthetic gases

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have been used since the 1800 's,

but it has taken over a century of

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careful experimentation to learn how

to use them safely. But bizarrely we

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still do not know precisely how

those gases work. We are getting

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recovery. What we do know is they

bind to proteins in the brain and

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temporarily disable new rounds,

allowing us to control

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consciousness.

Open your eyes, keep

them open.

The drugs work quickly,

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within seconds Mary is unconscious.

It is now up to Rob to keep her

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alive.

Now we are beginning to

artificially support her breathing

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and artificially support her

circulation.

He has to constantly

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monitor Mary and the amount of

anaesthetic in her system to keep a

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safely unconscious. We can tell how

much of the gas is inside the

0:26:310:26:37

patient.

We can infer how deeply

asleep they are.

But anaesthetists

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are not only critical for surgery.

On the other side of the hospital

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Jamie has just been called to attend

a patient in A&E.

What is happening?

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A 15-year-old has fallen from a tree

from a height. They are on their way

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into us and I do not know much more

than that.

Two thirds of people are

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treated by an anaesthetist when they

go to hospital and that is because

0:27:030:27:08

of their skills in resuscitation and

life support, making us the experts

0:27:080:27:12

at saving lives. We are needed

everywhere, critical care, maternity

0:27:120:27:18

and A&E. One minute Jamie is in

intensive care looking after the

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sickest patients in the hospital,

the next he is sent to deal with an

0:27:230:27:27

emergency.

Early indications are

that they are conscious and

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breathing.

I will let you get on.

Thank you.

Fortunately that patient

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made a full recovery. Back on the

surgical wards, Mary's operation is

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over. You look fantastic.

I feel

much more relaxed than I thought I

0:27:450:27:54

would, which is good.

Thanks to the

skills of Rob and his team the

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anaesthetic has gone well and it is

on to his next patient.

A big thanks

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to Mary and hello if you are

watching.

And a big thank you to all

0:28:070:28:11

of you who have been sending in

pictures of brothers. We will go

0:28:110:28:16

through a few here. This is Harry

and his baby brother. Their

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favourite thing is getting into

mischief together. Come on, Dave,

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what mystery did your big Brother

get you into growing up?

Oh, man. He

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is seven years older than me so it

was more him imposing mischief on

0:28:330:28:38

me. It was not really a team thing.

His main thing was zipping me up in

0:28:380:28:44

a sleeping bag and torturing me from

the outside so I am kicking and

0:28:440:28:48

screaming and I cannot get out.

This

is Dave and his little brother Phil

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and they love going on holiday in

Wales and they shared the same

0:28:530:28:57

birthday. Where did you have your

most memorable holiday?

We used to

0:28:570:29:03

go to a place called Hilton head

Island and our grandmother had a

0:29:030:29:07

place there and we used to go on

Sundays and play golf.

I was not

0:29:070:29:11

very good. This is dark and Mark.

Doug likes birds and MARKER: 'S man

0:29:110:29:18

United, Doug is tidy and welcome is

not. What are you offices of?

He is

0:29:180:29:25

very tidy and I am learning how to

be tidy.

Thank you very much to you

0:29:250:29:31

both for joining us tonight.

0:29:310:29:35

Thanks to James and Dave for joining

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