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It must be such a job to keep a straight face though. Always.

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Have you got a trick, do you cross your toes or something to stop

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something going wrong? It's the degree of seriousness you give to

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it. Actually, I've been asked to do most of the comedy I do, so that's

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a trick and a secret in itself. it hard because you have worked

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quite a bit? Giro Juan, like me, is serious about comedy. It's a

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serious business. Yes, another trick you have got is a moustache

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you have had for many years, now you are sporting a beard? There was

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a glorious few months with nothing, a new but original me. Did you find

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that liberating? David's character in The Wright Way, he plays a

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safety officer. He makes sure kids wear goggles while playing conkers.

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Is that an unfair stereotype? If you work in health and safety and

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have a risk-taking side, then send in a picture of you doing something

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off the scale to the normal address. Health and safety is anybody's

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responsibility! So please take care. We have an intriguing mystery for

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you. The body of a young man is discovered in the streets of West

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London with no obvious clues as to how it got there. At about 7. 45pm.

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I heard a thud and thought nothing of it. I went back to sleep. Then I

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remember my brother saying, Clare, you have to wake up. There is a man

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in the street. He is dead. He was a black guy, wearing a pair of

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sneakers and jeans. We thought he had been murdered then. This was the

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shock. His body twisted. To me it was obvious, really. The way it

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looked. Police merge? We are in Portman Avenue in Mortlake. We have

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come across what looks like a dead body. It may be a hoax, but we

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thought we should let you know. Where do you think this is? It is

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outside number... 22. I have seen people murdered in the street

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before. People stabbed and shot, but this man looked like he had been hit

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hard. I thought that this was a road traffic accident, but it was a quiet

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street. Not a busy street. To be hit like that, he had to go over

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someone's bonnet, over the roof. . What started out as a crime scene it

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looked like the man had been murdered. I noticed that they kept

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looking at the sky as the planes were coming over. In bed, the planes

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are close enough to see the landing gear being lowered. To me it was

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obvious. It looked like he had fallen from a very long way. There

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are so many other things going through your mind. You don't want to

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miss, that you sometimes almost miss the obvious. The man had tissue in

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his ears, and it indicated that he had fallen from an aircraft. He had

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no identity, documents on him. Nothing to identify him as a person.

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His name, address, or even his country of origin. The flight was

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from Angola. He had Angolan and Botswanian currency in the pocket

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but the phone was from a provider called Air Tel, but pointing to

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Africa. It has affected me long-term. I have had bad dreams

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about it ever since. Ever time a plane comes over now I do get

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nervous. When I see the undercarriage coming down, I think

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is it going to happen again. It is a body found in a street,

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unidentified, to let the relatives know what has happened, that is my

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priority. Somewhere, a mother, father, brother, sister, e.on

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children, he was missing. There is a mother who wants to know what

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happened to their son. What would be nice is if they found out where his

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family is from and why he did it. I would be at rest if I knew that the

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man had a burial. He landed right on the pavement. He did not hit a car,

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a roof. He landed right on the pavement. As though X marked the

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spot and there he laid. I think it is an unbelievable story to have

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featured on the show? It is incredible. Rob Walker, you are

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following the story for a BBC documentary. You have an update

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since that was filmed? That's right. We saw in the film that this is a

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man who stole away on the flight. What we know is that he was from

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Mozart. The police believe he is 30-year-old, his name is Jose

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Acasuso, but we don't know his family. They have not come forward.

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Unless the family are found, he will be buried in the country with out

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the family present. We don't know if they know what happened. How have

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they found out the information that you know in the update? They had a

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few clues in the beginning. There was a clue, a SIM card tucked in his

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trousers. The police started to call the numbers on the SIM card. They

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got nowhere. Then one number. No-one picked up. Finally, someone called

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back, the detective. To say you had been calling me. What was it about.

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It turned out it was his employer. She was then able to identify him.

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The first she said was that she thought she may know who he was. She

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said that straight away? Yes. So, so far his family have not been found.

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Let's hope that they find them. It is hard to imagine, how desperate

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somebody must feel before trying a stunt like this? The chances of

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survival are slim. We know from the text messages he sent. That he said

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he wanted to get to Europe to find a better life. What we don't know is

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why he thought he could survive doing that. . There have been cases

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in the past where people have done this. They have been told by

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traffickers, that there is a way into the plane. If they get into the

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wheel arch that they can find their way into the plane. A few cases

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where people have paid money to get them into that position, but in this

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case we don't know why. There is no oxygen. Temperatures down to minus

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50 Celsius? Yes. There are a documented of certain cases, about a

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quarter of those who try it survive, but there are so many things that

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can happen. You can be crushed by the wheels. Or the pressure

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dropping, the oxygen becoming less. If the wheels drop you can fall out.

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Are the survivors all of the lower altitude? Yes, in the cases we know

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that they survive, it is because it is short hall or lower altitude. A

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man came from veena to London. There was bad weather. The plane flew low,

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so he survived. It was warmer. On a long haul flight, the chances are

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slim. Thank you very much. I am doing a radio document for BBC World

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Service, we will finish the documentary if hopefully we can find

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his family. Back in the '70s, a small record shop was the hub of the

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Belfast alternative music scene. A future film about the man behind the

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success has proven to be a big hit. Andy Kershaw caught up with the shop

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as it was about to reopen. When it comes to punk, New York has the

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haircuts, London has the trousers but Belfast has the reason! 19-76,

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one of the most violent periods of Northern Ireland's troubles. It made

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Belfast the terrifying place, divided by religion and politics. A

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veteran hippy decide decided to wreck lessless, some may say, to

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open a small record store. He did it here on Great Victoria Street. It

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was known as Bomb Alley. He called the shop Good Vibe rations. The

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name, Good Vibe rations was not a reference to the Beach Boys but a

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nod to the after shocks of the Belfast bombs. What did the shop

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mean to Belfast people? I wanted to let the world know that there was

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more going on in Belfast than just #3w078s and mrets. In Belfast, the

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punk scene exploded on to the streets. It did not matter if your a

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republican or a loyalistist, Catholic or a Protestant. If you had

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green, orange or purple hair. As long as you were a music fan it what

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fine. Terri was persuaded to visit the Harp Bar. To see a band called

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Rudy. How different would music have been in Belfast would Terri Hooley.

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We never drept we could put a record out. We put out a sing. Once Big

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Time was out, everyone thought if they can do it, we can do it. The

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Northern Irish punk precedent had been set. Terri signed another new

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band, the back street kids of rock and roll, the John Prescott

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undertones. What did this building mean? Without Terri, we would never

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have made it. What was the memory of the day of the recording? Terri came

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in with fish and chips and lemonade. That is my only memory of him! You

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realised it was something special? Well, I didn't realise it was

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special, but it was a great opportunity to make a record. What

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was the reaction from the media, from the music industry? What

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response did you get? We went to London and we were told that Teenage

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Kicks was the worst record that they had heard. I was devastated. So,

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Terri, you dropped a few copis off at Radio 1 for the great man. I

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think it was on a Monday night. He played the record, we were so

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delighted. Then unbelievably, he played it for a second time. Terri

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sold teej Kicks for �400. Over the years, the Good Vibe rations shop,

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has shut done a staggering ten times. Now it is about to open its

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doors once again, for the 11th time! At the age of 64, Terri's passion

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for music is as strong as ever. People are proud of what the label

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did in the shop. Everyone has a story to tell. Some met their wives

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in the record shop and got married. The shop is not a record shop. It is

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not a record label it is a way of life. It will kill me or it will

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keep me alive! It looks like music in Belfast will be alive and kicking

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as long as TerriHooley will be with if you were a punk or a rock fan.

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We would have known more when we found this photo!

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You are in Dr Who there, aren't you? I was taking over a planet by

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cloning myself! Of course you were! As one is woed to do. But I get

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more mail from that one episode, it's a four-episode series, than

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anything else. I was in it for 35 seconds.

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You were one of my clones. Since then, conservationists and

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developers will often argue whether an old building should be

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demolished in the name of progress or kept intact. There is another

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way, as Arthur explains. # Just an illusion... # Facades on

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TV and film sets create an illusion that something is real when it

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isn't. It would seem silly in the real

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world wouldn't it? Actually, no. There is an architectural

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phenomenon known as facadism. Architects can build an entirely

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new inside of a building behind the actual building. It started in the

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70s when building technology made it possible. Facades are common in

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many UK cities. A striking example is The Lloyds Building in the City

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of London built in 19876. The architect chose to retain the

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original 1920s facade but juxtapose more modernist steel and glass --

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1986. It's won numerous awards, but not everyone is a fan of this

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blending of old and new. It's rather like a collage where they've

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stuck a bit of facade next to this modern building. It's not really a

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part of the building itself, it's a memory of what was there before. I

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think there are some facades which need to be retained but I think we

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do keep too many of them just because people are afraid of the

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new buildings that might go in their place. The thing that worries

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me about facade retention is where you get this facade which is

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totally unrelated to what is behind. An infamous example of what its

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opponents dislike about facadism can be found in historic

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Spitalfields in East London. Conservationist and historian Dan

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Cruickshank is unimpressed. It's daft and I'm cynical about facade

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retention. It's a screen hiding the duller and modern building behind

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there. There is rudimentary metal bars which look ghastly. There are

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whole histories. Keeping a facade cannot be in keeping with proper

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up-to-date conservation. You are not a facade-ist, but what about

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this, the Hearse building in New York? Lauded as a dramatic example

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of fusing the modern with the historic. I rest my case on that.

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It's a vast contradictory erection arising out of a beautiful 20th

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century building, turning it into theatre. This is a tragedy.

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Facadism has its nisier, but I'm told there's one building that's

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won over conservationists. The Unilever headquarters in London's

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won awards for its imaginative use of facade retention. John Bushell

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is the architect responsible. What was your original brief for

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this build something Unilever wanted to see whether they could

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both keep their location and their wonderful heritage in terms of this

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facade but also have a modern, invigorating work place that was

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this generation's contribution to the site. In the end, we took the

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facade back to as close as possible to 1931.

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The real transformation was inside. Gosh. This is a classic exterior

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which is preserved and a modern space is created inside. The best

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of both worlds. The building, as we found it, was dark and gloomy. It

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was a maize on the ground floor. It felt like a Government building. We

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transformed it. We brought a lot of light in. You can see and be seen

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and feel like one community within the building. One of the ways this

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was achieved was to open up the back of the building. In opening

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out the centre of the building, I'm opening out the back and bringing

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London into the building. We have discovered if we knock down large

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parts of cities and everything is new, that we lose layers of

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historical richness and juxtaposition. Whatever we think of

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it, facadism is shaping the city landscapes. I love FA sashedism. Or

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maybe that's just a front! -- facadism. One thing's for sure,

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once you demolish an historic building, it's gone forever.

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Facadism! Where do you stand, David? I love the juxtaposition of

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old and new if it's clever. I think so, if they do it well.

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There were some examples in that film I wasn't keen on.

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The last was good. I'm sure some of those building sites would have

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been a nightmare or a heaven even for a Gerald Wright in the new BBC

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comedy. So who is he and what is it all about? He's a man of great duty

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and passion, Gerald, he loves his job and runs an eccentric health

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and safety unit in the town Council of Basilricky. Let's see Gerald

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going about his business. Here he We've all been there, David.

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have. The exasperation!I know those taps so well, you just can't

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get them on. I'm becoming the character, but you can't get the

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water out. I know! Doing with with your head is not

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very health and safety. I know. Health and safety is rich pickings

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really for comedy, isn't it? Absolutely. We are all as peeved as

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each other by health and safety and that obsessive adherence to what is

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healthy and safe. Is it challenging for you in those pre-recorded bits

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that aren't in front of an audience because nobody's laughing but your

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timing is absolutely spot on there? I think in the pre-records, you

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have to ignore the concept of the audience and Leigh it to the editor

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because you have to believe the timing that you are doing the

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actual physical comedy and then assume that it will fit. It will

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work, yes. The laughter filters over the next moment or the next

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line if it involves dialogue. are also playing another pretty

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physical character in the form of King Lear in Bath in July? I am,

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hence the beard. Yes. It's completely different. It's getting

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grey which is school. You are flattered to be playing King Lear,

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because it's often seen as an older man's role, is it not? It is, but I

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think all the King Lear's who're the best ones are younger. I'm not

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arrogant about this role, it's impossible to get right I think,

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but I think the reason to be younger is the energy of some of

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the scenes of when he's really insane, you know. So you haven't

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started rehearsing yet? No, there's another six weeks of growth.

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will be down here by then. Yes. It's set in the 60s, or

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there's a 60s twist to it? Yes, there is. Because we were looking

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for many King Lear's and we wanted to make an interesting resonance

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for the audience. There are very few patriarchal underworlds around,

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but there was that underworld in London that existed in the 60s and

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that could be quite interesting thing. Trying to make a living from

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the sea without harming the local wildlife in the process has always

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been a challenge. It's one that conservationists and

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fishermen are struggling with in Argyll on the West Coast of

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Scotland, as Miranda's been finding out.

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The wild lochs and rivers of Scotland. Home of the world famous

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Atlantic salmon. As well as an important species of

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wildlife, Scotland's salmon is a healthy, affordable food, popular

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the world over. But it's not just human who is love

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the taste of fresh salmon. One of Scotland's other great wildlife

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attractions has a keen interest in them as well. Seals. An adult seal

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eats around five kilograms of fish a day and that's what's brought

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them into a head-on conflict with humans.

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Between them, anglers, fishermen and commercial fish farms shoot

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hundreds of seals off the Scottish coast each year to protect their

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fish stocks. Someone who resorts to shooting is

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Scottish netsman James Mackay. He catches wild salmon by placing nets

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at river mouths, but it's a disaster for him if a seal gets

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into the nets. It's like a fox getting into a chicken coup. They

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would destroy all the fish. They would maybe eat one or two or maul

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them. Often this results in the entire catch being ruined. The seal

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stresses the fish so much that the fish become of a poorer quality,

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they become soft and don't have the same firmness about them.

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Two years ago, the Scottish Government passed a law to try and

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control the number of seals being shot.

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Anyone killing one must hold a licence and only kill as a last

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resort. James stresses he shoots only when there really is no other

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option. We are not cruel people. We like nature, we are not part of

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cruelty. We like the ocean and the birds and things like that. We are

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not all out to kill, kill, kill, we just want to protect our living.

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There are many who don't want to see any seals shot and feel the law

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isn't being enforced properly. David Ainsley worries that salmon

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farming in the same area have ago an adverse effect on the wildlife.

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We run a wildlife tourism business, so we are taking people to see

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seals, dolphins and porpoise and all are affected, unnecessarily, by

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the way salmon farmers currently operate.

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He wants to see a change in working practices which he claims would

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prevent the need to shoot. The answer is simply to do what is

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already happening in Canada and very effective at solving the

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problem. Use two nets, a double layer of net. The nets are kept

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tensioned and separated so that the seals can't get close to the salmon

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and you don't have a problem. Any farm which is using a single net

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and shooting seals is not shooting seals as a last resort, they are

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shooting them because single nets are cheaper than double nets and

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they don't want to spend the money. This accusation is denied by

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technical director Dr John Webster from the Scottish salmon Producers'

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Organisation. He says the doubling of nets would slow the water

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current down and reduce oxygen to the fish and he stresses that they

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are following the law. The first line of defence is to prevent the

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seal get near the salmon in the first place. Only when that doesn't

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work do they resort the shooting. He says the damage caused by seals

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is devastating. A single seal reaching a salmon pen could take

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hundreds, even thousands of salmon in a single sitting. It's not going

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to eat them all though? They tend to take a single bite out of the

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throat and move on to the next fish. The effect on fish welfare is

:27:50.:27:53.

extraordinarily bad and the effect on the well-being of the people

:27:53.:27:57.

whose job it is to make sure the fish are in good order is

:27:57.:28:01.

catastrophic when this happens. We are moving on and developing new

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technology and approaches which we hope in the very near future will

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eliminate the need to shoot seals at all. Until the day seals and

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salmon can be kept apart more effectively, it appears that seals

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will continue to be shot. It's an example of the ever growing

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conflict between food production and wildlife conservation.

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It's difficult. Thank you. In honour of your character, we asked

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for health and safety officers doing extreme things. Paul rarri,

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the health and safety emergency planner ice climbing in New Zealand

:28:35.:28:39.

and not wearing a helmet. This is Jane, a health and safety manager,

:28:39.:28:43.

part of the British gliding team. Look at the fastest woman in the

:28:44.:28:47.

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