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Hello and welcome to the One Show with Alex Jones.

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And Matt Baker. Sometimes our strawberries can be lowbrow. But

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tonight we're going high brow in a big way. We welcome the manner of

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real culture, not to mention the man with the best hair on TV. It's

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Melvyn Bragg. It looks great, even when it is on.

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I am joking! I want to check how highbrow you are. What was the last

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thing you watched on TV? Chelsea against Munich. I am not a Chelsea

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fan at all but I like our teams to win and it was the end of a fantasy

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season in football. Goals in the last two seconds, I was enthralled.

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It is like a drama with a satisfactory ending. We watched it

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with no sound through a pub window. It wasn't very highbrow!

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Tonight we are going live to the Eurovision Song Contest. Is there

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time in your cultural calendar for Eurovision? Yes. I want to see

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Engelbert do his stuff without any question. I don't follow the

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Eurovision Song Contest, O K, but from the very beginning, the South

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Bank Show brought into British arts programme pop music. Our first

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programme, we had Paul McCartney, Eric Clapton, Jimi Hendrix, Dolly

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Parton. Out of that came of it anything as good as what was coming

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in. So I want to watch Eurovision to see Engelbert. Here is is the

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very him, then Hump, in Azerbaijan. Hello, this is Engel but all the

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way from Baku and Melvyn, I am bringing you some high culture all

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the way from Azerbaijan. See you later! He is even reporting on the

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One Show! Also on the show tonight, find out

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what happened when our "Famous Five" friends who grew up in a

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Barnado's home together met up for the first time in 50 years.

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Get your hankies ready, it's going to get emotional.

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We all know that councils across the country are having to make

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drastic cuts and local libraries are particularly in the firing line.

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Some have managed to stay open through the dedication of

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volunteers - but can this work for every library?

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Anita Rani has been to find out. Libraries have always played a

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really important role in my life. I love everything about them, that

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warm feeling, the distinctive musty smell and the fact that you are

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surrounded by it all of those brilliant words. But with squeezed

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budgets, local councils are having to make difficult choices and

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across the UK, many libraries are closing or reducing their opening

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hours. These used to be the library for Barnet in north London but it

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doesn't exist anymore and that has prompted an angry protest from the

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people who once used it. Last month some of the locals decided to

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occupy the building in protest. People feel that the library is the

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centre of the community. We cannot destroy this sense of community.

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The council told us budget cuts meant they had to save �1.5 million

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from the library service and they acknowledge that not every resident

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would be happy with the changes. feel devastated that my local

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library has closed and it doesn't seem right. The community said no,

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all the schools and businesses has said that the library needs to stay

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open. In the weeks following the closure, the protest group decided

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they would try to run their own makeshift library on Saturdays. It

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relies on the honesty of local people to return the books.

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According to the group, the council have offered them a building where

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they can run their own voluntary library but this campaign it is

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keen to find out if the library run by volunteers can ever hope to

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survive in the long term, so I am taking him on a trip outside London.

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In Chalfont St Giles, Buckinghamshire, they have set up a

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library with no professional staff. The One Show first pay them a visit

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to make three years ago and now I am taking Martin to see what he

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thinks. We fought tooth and nail for the library not to be shut and

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in an ideal world, you want it to be run by the county but

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unfortunately, there is not the money to do it. So in Chalfont St

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Giles, the local people agreed to keep the library running themselves.

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The people do not get paid but the library does get grants. They also

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lost uses a voluntary �10 annual subscription to help with costs.

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is going extremely well and a huge improvement from when it was won by

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the county. When they closed it, there were 4500 books. There are

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now 7,000 and it is open 50% more of the time. They have even managed

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to keep the children's groups going. Storage time is happening behind me.

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I will join them. They have had the same books on the shelves for years.

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But now, a lot of them or given by the people in the village and the

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literary quality of the books has gone up. Do you think this could be

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rolled out across the country? You desperately need community like

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this, with people know each other and are prepared to help. So what

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do you do in and not particularly affluent community? The authorities

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really have to keep those libraries going. Martin is really impressed

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with what he has seen in Chalfont St Giles and the six of the

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volunteers have had been improving it, but could something similar

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work in Barnet? -- the success. It is no replacement from paid

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librarians and a paid library service. In Barnet, the Community

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Library is continuing to operate but campaigners do not want that to

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be a replacement. None of us have the time and inclination to run

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this service. We have families cannot working full-time and

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studying. We are disappointed the council is not listening to us.

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campaigners are considering whether one course of action is to

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challenge its closure in the courts. In other parts of the country, some

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councils have been forced to rethink their plans to close

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libraries. Melvyn, did libraries play the big

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part in your growing up? At one stage in my life, they were

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everything. We did not have books. We lived in a council house. I used

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to go with my dad on Tuesday and Friday nights. Mr Cameron was the

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librarian. He would say, I think you should read that. For five

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crucial years before I went to a school with a library, I read and

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read from that library and these volunteers are fantastic and they

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are all over the place. Good luck to all of them. For many people, it

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is the entrance to 100 new worlds. And you said you are donating your

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books to a library in London. We could not have you on without

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playing a bit of this. The theme tune to the South Bank Show. It is

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brilliant. The South Bank Show is back on Sunday. You have six hour

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shows. We are starting on Sunday with Nicholas Hytner, the director

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of the National Theatre. Some people thinks that is the greatest

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city theatre in the world and some people think he is the Best

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Director in the world. Pat Barker, who writes about the First World

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War, marvellous novels. Then these lads in the East End of London and

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their music, Dizzee Rascal. Different! Then we have a male

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ballet dancer -- belly-dancer, Carlos Vela Costa and others. And

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then women singer-songwriters and Ben Nicola Benedetti in fairness,

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Scotland, Brazil and London. I think it is quite a six pack!

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Here you are interviewing Nicholas Hytner, talking about James

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Corden's play, One Man, Two Guvnors. The idea was to do it with James

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Corden and not do it as a kind of pastiche from today, but let's try

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to recreate a tradition which I think is still very much alive, the

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tradition of English comedy. Carry On comedy. Yeah! LAUGHTER. APPLAUSE.

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That is the first one. James Corden is fantastically funny. I must have

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seen that clips several times and he always makes me laugh. We went

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to the States to see what would happen with a very English comedy

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went to Broadway in the United States and is slaughtered them!

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People were almost crying, you know when you are rocking in a big

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audience! Richard is such a good writer, it was marvellous. And then

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you go to cover some crime. Are you surprised you shows that? -- crime?

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We should point out that that is a type of rap music. Yes, rap music,

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classical music, and then these lads in the East End next to the

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richest part of the country, Canary Wharf, with the biggest youth

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poverty in the UK and these lads in these three blocks of flats have

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made their own music and they are very proud of it. It is Dizzee

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Rascal and wily and they will not have American accents. Did rap

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music grab you? No. I like it now but I came to it very late. Archie

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power well, one of the directors. If you are on a programme as varied

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as mine, you cannot know everything. The director got these people

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together and persuaded them to do it and they were not too keen

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because they had done it all to themselves. I really cannot tell

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you how moving their strawberry is. These young lads have as near to

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next to nothing as you can have -- moving their story is. It is so

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moving. They remind me of the Liverpool scene in the early 60s

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with McCartney and those guys, going to do music and nobody is

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going to stop them and they are given to get on with it. Few have

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interviewed a diverse range of people but he would you like to

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interview that is not with us any more -- you have interviewed?

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would like to have interviewed Elvis Presley. What would you have

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asked him? Partly, why did he make so many rubbish films. I would not

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have dead! I would ask him about the early days. He had the voice of

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a saucer Rock. He could have been a great opera singer. And then a man

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called Samuel Beckett, who wrote Waiting for God go, which is a play

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I could see again and again. Those two. The South Bank Show starts

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this Sunday at 10pm on Sky. Late last year we featured the

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Mossbourne Academy. A school in the deprived London borough of Hackney.

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Mossbourne's head teacher Sir Michael Wilshaw insisted on old

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fashioned values like standing when the teachers enter the room and

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reciting a mantra at the start of lessons.

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Since then Sir Michael has become the head of Ofsted, whose job it is

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to inspect schools in England. And he has some radical ideas on how

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every school should change, but not everyone agrees.

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So, we called a staff meeting. And invited teachers from two Essex

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schools. You might recognise some of them from the fly-on-the-wall

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documentary Educating Essex. They started off their discussion

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talking about unannouced inspections.

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It is interesting that both of you as head teachers come when you said

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about the Ofsted inspection, there was no notice, you both said you

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had to protect your staff. I have a right to prepare them for the

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scrutiny and the inspection. No notice inspections are divisive and

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unfair to the children and to the staff. I do not think that is at

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all right. It is another example of not trusting schools almost. One of

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the thing that resonated was that quote from Michael will sure that

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teachers do not understand what stresses and that we needed a

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reality check. I have been in the profession for over 30 years and I

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do not think there has been a period where teachers have worked

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harder. There is the inference that we tolerate mediocrity and that we

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do not have that expectation from students and the staff. When we see

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them questioning our professionalism and dedication to

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the students, that only has a detrimental effect on us.

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Michael Wilshaw is said to have commented that you should have

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pleasure that morale is low amongst your staff as a head teacher. Our

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worry about that. With good morale, you feel happy, people are valued,

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it is a good message and we believe in that. I work in a great

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department and we all get on really well and we enjoy what we do and if

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we have a stressful day, we help each other out and that does keep

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you going. Why would anybody say that they would like staff morale

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to be low? That makes no sense. think that is about his choice of

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words. He would say, I don't mean that. He makes a blunt statement.

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If I have loads dope -- Low Row I must be doing a good thing. No, he

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will have constant turnover of staff and supply teachers, no

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consistency, sickness rates. I do not see him as a bad person and the

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enemy of teachers. His heart is in the right place but unfortunately

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at the moment, he is just getting it wrong with how he sells his

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message. He is a teacher! Ultimately this is a man who has

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done the job and done it brilliantly. I just want him to

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help me to do it brilliantly. Thanks to the teachers of and St

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Thanks to the teachers of and St John's and Passmore's Academy. Did

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you mean what you said about low morale amongst staff? That was

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taken out of context. I was taken to task a member of staff who was

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teaching poorly. He wrote a three- page letter the following day

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saying what an awful person I was an same staff morale was at an all-

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time low. I said, sometimes, when you have to take on the challenging

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situation in a failing school, this sort of accusation might be made.

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Staff morale was at an all-time low. This is the sort of accusation that

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can be made. It was taken out of context. What sort of things did to

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implement and other schools should follow suit? Mossbourne was in a

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very disadvantaged part of London. It was on the site of a badly

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failing school. It served children from poor backgrounds. The children

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achieve well above the national average. Where there are three

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things you said you did? realised we had to make no excuses

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for them - no excuses for their background. We said, we do not care

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what background to a from. We expect you to achieve. -- you are

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from. We worked hard in the evenings and at twilight sessions

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and at the weekends and make sure they were supported to get them

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through their exams so they would do well. I saw one episode from

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that programme and they did the same. They saw their

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responsibilities and duties outside the classroom as well as the inside.

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A lot of our youngsters came from very unstructured environments. We

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introduced a lot of structure to their lives. All the rituals and

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routines you saw in the clip helped to create a good structure in which

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good teaching could go on. I used to say, we run a formal institution

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but when you are in the classroom, we want you to be innovative and

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interesting and make your lessons come alive. One hot topic is

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unannounced inspections. The teachers prepare, don't they come

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up for inspections. What do you think you will gain by that?

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have yet to make a decision on this one. The idea behind it was that

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there was a lot of stress that comes in before an inspection.

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People get very stressed. I have seen it over and again as a teacher

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and her head teacher. I think when inspectors turn up on a morning

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that stress levels would be lower. The second reason is, I think

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inspectors want to see a school as it really is and not changed for an

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inspection. Just to seat a normal school as it is. We have taken into

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account lots of responses to what we propose. Some head teachers so

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they need to be there and they might be out of schools. What other

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chances of parents seeing that in children's schools right across

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England? Parents would be good school for their child. We have one

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in three schools at the moment that are not good - satisfactory and

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below. I have made it clear that I want to seat all schools good or on

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a journey to being good. That is the important thing. That is what

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parents and kids want. And it can happen? I hope so with the measures

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we are putting in place. The second part of the amazing story of those

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Barnardo's girls separated from each other or loges a go. -- all

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those years ago. They were aged just -- between just one Aberu

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Kebede and eight and their families could not look after them. -- four

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and eight. The five girls are now women in the 60s. They are spread

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all over the world. They have not seen each other since the day they

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left this has 50 years ago. In a few minutes we would be reuniting

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this unique set of friends at the very same house that holds very

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powerful memories. You never felt alone. We were always there for

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each other. The four other girls were my family. Five children,

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split up, go different ways, in different countries, how could they

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get together? I feel really excited about it. It is like a part of my

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life is put back together. It is like we were torn apart and put

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back together again. In my mind's eye, they all look the same. They

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will not have changed. They have travelled from as far afield as

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America and Australia for this moment. Back at their old

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Barnardo's care home together, for the first time in 50 years. Oh, my

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gosh! Patsy! I recognise you. wonderful. As soon as they step

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through the door of their former childhood home, though shared

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memories come flooding back. This is where you do the dishes. We used

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to scrub the floor on our hands and knees. I spent hours in here.

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has changed. Much has changed in the 50 years since the women lived

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here. The house has become a private home. In that old bedroom,

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at the back of the wardrobe, a poignant reminder of their time

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here it remains. Patsy, Pam. Nobody painted over it! A what is it like

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to see all your names all those years on? It brings you back to

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those times. There is no awkwardness at all. It is like we

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could move back into this house and it would be the same. You will suit

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-- still be Baby Pam. The garden was the big reward for chores well

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done. We played croquet a lot on our holidays. You could remember

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yourselves playing together outside in the gardens. It brings a lot of

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memories back. We did not have that. I am still wondering if it is real.

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You were the last original ones. There have been so many years

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waiting for this and not really knowing. At that moment, it hits

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you that here they are, in flesh and blood. I am emotional now.

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Whoever would have thought! For me, it is like having my family back.

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We were family. Do you know what I think we should do? You know the

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photo, let's blind you all up doing exactly the same 50 years on. --

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That has made me go all tingly. Do you want eight issue? It is

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wonderful news. They join us now. - - a tissue. Did you watch the

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episode last night? Yes, we did. All emotions. The reunion happened

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last Sunday. What did you do? How did you celebrate? Oh, my gosh!

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What did we do? You just looked at each other, I expect, just held

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each other. Did you have drinks? We'd just when the nest. Did you

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recognise each other straight away -- we just reminisced. We recognise

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each other's straight away. could see the features on the faces.

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It came out at that moment. What happens from here? You are

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incredibly close but your lives must be so much richer. Australia

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next. You are all salted for holidays. We are already planning.

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-- sorting. We will be on the internet. We will make plans. There

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are plans in the works. My sister and I are going to see about

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Australia. We are already hoping to do something. You look so happy. It

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is magical. You are very excited because we have Engelbert

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Humperdinck on. You have seen him in Tampa, haven't you? Can he do it

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for Eurovision? He is representing as in the Eurovision Song Contest

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will start I did not know anything about that. Do not go back to

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America! We are going to go live to the crystal ball. Scott Mills is

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covering Eurovision for BBC Three. He is with Engelbert Humperdinck

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now. Can you hear us? It is midnight over there. It is. It is

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about a million degrees in the stadium. I am with the man who is

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the only hope for us in the UK - Engelbert Humperdinck. I have seen

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your rehearsal. Arlene Phillips has been involved. She has been amazing.

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She has given me the professional tips I needed. We stand a good

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chance. How are you feeling? I am first on. First out of the gate is

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good. You can get out there and tried to keep the lead. If tonight

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we have the semi-finals on BBC Three at 8pm. There are two to

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watch out for. The first is the Russian grannies. They are from a

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little town in Russia. They are trying to get funds to rebuild

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their church, which Stalin knocked down 70 years ago. The other ones

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are Jedward. What you think of that? One is for the very young and

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the others up for the adults. Both are very talented people. I

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consider them competition and I hope they consider meat like that

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as well. You have been here for a few days. How are you finding it?

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The whole thing is magnificent. Security is really tight. I could

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not get in tonight. More security than you have ever seen before.

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is an amazing place. It is beautiful. We will see you on the

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final on BBC One on Saturday. Join me and Sarah Cox on BBC Three at

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8pm for the Russian grannies and Jedward life. The semi-finals are

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on BBC sleep tonight and Thursday and the finals are on Saturday. --

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BBC Three. Can he cut through the political nonsense and win it for

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us? Absolutely. He was on the circuit in the sixties when he was

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up against the best competition in the world and he still held his own.

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