24/04/2012 The One Show

Hello, welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker... And Alex Jones. After

winning Let's Dance in 2009 with his amazing version of Flashdance,

our guest tonight said, if I get run over by a bus and get on to the

Ten O'Clock News, we know which a video clip they will show off.

are not sure, there are plenty to It is the persistently fruity

All my finest work! The banana dance was like the prototype of

Flashdance. That was getting into gear. When you write a sketch show,

how does, I know, let's dress up and dance as a banana,, been

conversation? The rest of the sketch is me going up to David and

saying, look, can I jump up and down as a banana? He goes, that

would be awful. I ran it past the series producer. Then you get to do

the sketch. You are encased in this not very ironic ending, that it was

a conversation. Good training? that how Flashdance happened as

well? It was a little bit easier. I was less encumbered by the banana.

A little yellow bottom, sticking out from the back. Coming up we

have a world champion, here in the studio, who has a connection to

your new project. The stick might be a bit of a clue. We are going to

find out what he is the world champion of later when he comes out

from behind his mum and dad. Don't worry, Aiden. Screening for breast

cancer has been credited with saving countless lives. One of the

men behind its introduction now thinks it might be doing more harm

than good. Gloria Hannaford has been to see how that can possibly

be true. It has been 25 years since the NHS

introduced breast screening. Last year, more than 1.8 million women

between 50 and 70 were screened. My daughter, Karen, died eight years

ago from breast cancer. She was just 41. Technically, at that time,

she would have been outside the breast screening age group. Knowing

the devastation of losing someone to cancer, I have to admit that I

am the biggest advocate of early detection and, hopefully, saving

lives. It is a belief I share with many women. Women have been told

over and over again that screening is the answer, early detection is

the answer. Do you agree with that? Yes, I do. But you can check

yourself as well. But going for the mammogram is really helpful.

Whether it is a false alarm or not, it is better to have somebody say

that it might or might not be. recent studies have questioned

whether routine breast screening is as effective as we have long

believed. Professor Michael Bourne was one of the Killie founders of

the programme. Now he is turning his back on it. One problem is that

we are catching it too early. We are catching stuff that looks like

cancer under the microscope, but is not programmed to progress to

become cancer. The pre-cancerous cells might never become life-

threatening. But they are often treated in the same way as more

aggressive cancers. You have to screen 2000 women for 10 years to

avoid worn breast cancer death. But something like five to 10 women

will be diagnosed as having cancer when they are never going to be

threatened by cancer. Some of them will be having unnecessary

mastectomies. He believes that instead of screening for something

that might not be cancer, we should simply treat the things that we

know to be cancer. I do not think screening is the answer. Treatment

is so good and will continue to improve. Rely on treatment, forget

screening. Marion believes a routine screening in 2007 led to

her being over diagnosed and treated for a cancer that may never

have threatened her life. On what basis did you say they needed to

give you treatment? They told me, pre-invasive cancer that may never

harm you. Or it may develop into invasive cancer. They wanted to

remove a quarter of my breast. I thought that was a very serious

matter. Faced with a chance that she might develop invasive cancer,

she eventually opted for surgery. Unfortunately, it did not cancer --

capture all of the pre-cancerous cells and she then had to undergo a

vasectomy. As borers learned about how the cells behave, experts

increasingly believe they may never become life-threatening. I went in

healthy thinking I was fine. I ended up with a far more radical

situation. For something that may, I realised, may not be necessary.

Miriam says if she knew about the doubts surrounding over diagnosis

she would not have had the surgery, which she still does not know if

she needed. I had a right to know about this phenomenon so I could

protect myself from something that would be extremely distressing to

me. Last autumn, an independent review into the breast screening

programme was launched. When it is published, it will bring together

evidence about the benefits and down sides of screening and how

well they are communicated to women. Marilyn Morris has every reason to

be a firm supporter of breast screening. I was called for a

routine appointment, something was found. It was confirmed it was

cancerous. I would not be here today if it had not been for that

screening appointment. I would never have found it, because of

where it was, very deep within the chest wall. In terms of this review

that is going to be published, it would seem the medical profession

are beginning to change their minds in terms of may be over diagnosis,

overtreatment. How do you feel about that, being a cancer

survivor? I am not a medical expert. But I wholeheartedly believe that

breast screening saved my life. If you have got the opportunity to go

a long full screening, please go. The Department of Health say that

breasts screening saves many lives and the programme is regularly

scrutinised. Until the independent review was published, the medical

advice is for women to attend their screening appointments and raise

any further concerns with their Gloria is here, as is Dr Sarah

Rawlings from Breakthrough Breast Cancer. After hearing what

Professor Michael Baum had to say, has your faith been shaken? Are you

confused? I felt confused at first. Its controversial, when you hear

somebody like that saying that screening is not the answer,

treatment is so good that it is the way forward, of course it is great

that it has become better, but at my stage in life I have been

programmed to have my screening. Until this review is published,

which I think we'll be in a couple of months' time, I still stand with

the fact that I think I would rather have the information, but at

the same time those leaflets that you saw on definitely out of date.

The best thing will be that the leaflets will be updated, the

information will be better. I, like a lot of other women, will be more

able to make an informed choice as to whether I have treatment or not.

I think that is the good thing to come out of the report. Doctor

Rawlings, say somebody has been screened and they are told they

have pre-cancerous cells. What questions can they asked to make

sure they get the right treatment for them? We know that breast

screening is really important because it can pick up some early

forms of breast cancer. The earlier it is detected, the better. But for

some of these really early forms, we cannot yet tell if they will

progress to become harmful or not. Most women will be offered

treatment. If you are diagnosed with breast cancer through

screening, it is really important that you answer questions -- ask

questions about what type of cancer you have been diagnosed with and

your treatment options. Your doctor will be more than happy to talk

this through with you. If you want more information, charities like

Breakthrough Breast Cancer can help you with that. You have invested

millions of pounds in treatment, I know that you are also involved in

the leaflets. Where is the treatment going? We know that early

detection is important. We have made fantastic strides in treatment

as well over the last 25 years. UK survival rates are better than I

have ever been. That is a combination of better awareness,

that a screening and a better awareness. If I had one big hope

for breast cancer, it is that we would use all of this information

coming through, that breast cancer is a complex disease and we can

categorise it into different types. A study last week talked about 10

different types. If we know the different types we can tailor

treatment. By that I mean you will be confident you will receive a

treatment that will be tailored to your particular type of breast

cancer. You may have less side- effects and you will be confident

it will go away and stay away. bet we men are watching tonight and

saying that they are confused. This report and review has not been

published. It is a controversial status. In essence, you seem to

disagree with the professor. My advice would be to have your

screening, have the information and then seek further information from

the doctor or cancer specialist if you can.

Well, big stars like David Beckham, Katherine Jenkins and Cheryl Cole

have all visited our troops in Afghanistan. But they are not the

first entertainers to go to the front line. Larry Lamb has been to

meet one lady who did her bit to boost morale way before that lot

were even born. During the Second World War, some

of the biggest names in show business try and be Entertainments

National Service Association, or ENSA, to do their bit, home and

abroad. I am on my way to Hurst Castle. It is home to one of the

few surviving garrison theatres, where performers trod the boards.

It might be hard to believe that a group of theatre luvvies had a

crucial part to play in wartime. But on stage is like this,

performers from ENSA did their bit for the war effort. So, Sean, can

you tell me why it is that there is a theatre out here in the middle of

the silent? During the Second World War we had a garrison of 160 troops.

Being very isolated, they needed to make their own entertainment. From

a couple of gun days they made the theatre we can see now. There were

singers, acrobats. They used to like the dancers, especially the

pretty ones. It must have been a tremendous atmosphere. ENSA was the

brainchild of theatre impresario Basil Dean, he wanted to establish

a network of entertainers. What was Basil Dean's vision? His vision was

based on what had happened at the First World War, where there was a

definite need for some sort of morale-boosting entertainment. He

kept that belief going for the whole of the Second World War.

year-old dancer Audrey Landreth joined ENSA as an entertainer. How

can you decided to join? Strangely enough, I got my call-up papers. I

appealed against it on the grounds that I had been a dancer. They said,

OK, as long as you joined ENSA. travelled to military bases all

over Britain with a group of five performers called Magic Moments.

Short skirts. That was daring in those days, don't forget. A bit of

showing your bust. Blonde, as I was in those days. You brought the

house down. I bet you did! didn't have to be a good dancer.

The theatre's further afield were much more makeshift. They worked

from the back of a lorry, from tents, in Italy they worked in

conditions where rats were, running across the stage. Despite the

efforts of the performers, some said that it stood for every night,

something awful. He had to fulfil the demands on him to produce

shores. He couldn't always have George Formby. He had to make do

with other people. Some were good and some were not. After D-Day and

the Normandy landings, Basil Dean wanted his performers to follow our

troops as they pushed through Europe. Which meant real risks to

their safety. Audrey's best friend, Vyvyan, had also joined ENSA. She

was travelling with a different trip. She was what I would call

bubbly, happy-go-lucky. I don't know, she was full of life.

January 23rd, 1949, while travelling to a show in Holland,

the truck she was in hit a landmine and she died. I was absolutely

devastated. It really was a terrible tragedy. I could not

believe it. She was the only ENSA performer killed during the war,

but the dangers were real. They knew there were dangers, but they

felt the troops needed entertaining and they took the risk. So, Audrey,

if you do not mind, I would like to take you over there and we are

going to recreate a bit of that To get us into the mood, local

performers the Windmill swing band. During the war, ENSA staged over

2.5 million performances. Talented ladies like Audrey helped raise the

spirits of our troops during those troubled times. For that, we should

He hears it, isn't it great? would you ever go out and a form on

the front line? Absolutely not, no. Physical education was a

paramilitary activity. I have to pretend to my daughter that it is

fine when a wasp comes near. No serious army would have me anywhere

near it, even in PR. Mind you, your new job is quite full-on. This is

it, away from the front line, what is going on here? That is how a

real man spends his... That is how you earn a living. Here are

narrating the new stories of Winnie The Pooh. Yes, there are some new

stories based on the original Winnie The Pooh, and Disney have

made 18, I think, new ten-minute television stories, and I am the

storyteller, wandering around that beautiful green screen set, which

is about to get coloured in with magical computer pencils to be made

to look like the hundred Acre Wood. So you will actually be in the

cartoon. It is weird, really. The lock that I sit on his real, or at

least plastic, but the people I am talking to, Christopher Robin here,

A good, they are made up. When they answer back, I am doing the voices,

so I am telling the story, like when you read to your children, you

sort of to the voices a bit, but let's not get carried away. It is

not like proper acting. You often hear from actors that it is hard

work on green screen, have you done anything like it before?

Mitchell and Webb, there were, as the technology got cheaper, we

started to do things like that, but nothing so prolonged. This was

eight days of green screen, a cast of one, I have got no-one to moan

too, to moan about the catering or the weather. So what was pretty

lonely, it was all made in Wales, so I say that I made it for my

daughter, but I did not see her for a week and a half. Most of us are

used to the American Winnie The Pooh, but this is the all new

British one. Well, the original books are English... This is the

first televised... The inspiration was a wood in Sussex, so the

original books were all British, and then the rights went to Disney,

and they made the animated films, and very charming they were, to.

have, Robert, a world champion in the studio, a very important part

of the stories, can you guess what he is a world champion of? Dowsing

himself in honey. He is the world Pooh sticks champion! Can you

believe it, come On Over! His dad is with us as well. What 18 they

are. Come on in, now, we were having a good chat earlier, I am

well on the world of Pooh sticks. Can you let everybody else in on

the secret? How did you hold the stick when you drop it into the

river? Oh, like that? Give us the winning drop. For just like that!

It is as simple as that. Textbook. There is no luck involved at all in

this, it is pure skill. Will he be going back next year to try to

retain his title? No-one has actually retained it before, so

fingers crossed. We have got used some tickets for the championships.

Well, or round one, anyway. Out of all of those sticks, which one

would you choose as a winner? It is that one there! Well, that is going

to be up for auction after the programme. You can take that one

away with you, good lad. Thank you very much. Well, Tales Of

Friendship With Winnie The Pooh is on Disney Junior UK later this year.

This is the trophy, it is from the shelf in his bedroom. Now then, the

police are always looking for better ways to gather evidence at

crime scenes. Scientists in Sheffield think they have found a

new way to use one of the oldest tools of the trade. Michael Mosley

The fingerprint has been used in crime fighting for of all 100 years,

and now scientists are about to give it a high-tech makeover.

Fingerprinting may no longer be seen as cutting edge in the

glamorous world of crime scene investigations, but there are

developments which I think we'll push it back into the limelight. Up

classic fingerprinting is tried and tested and has its limitations.

John O'Gara runs to a fingerprint laboratory at West Yorkshire Police.

At this training facility, he is going to show me how to dust for

fingerprints, a technique which has not changed much in a century.

is simply a matter of putting dust onto the surface. You can see there.

The fingerprint has come out, clear Rage detail. He is using aluminium

powder, because it sticks well to the print and can be lifted with

take. Everybody's fingerprint has a unique pattern of riches allowing

investigators to link a suspect to a crime scene. Even identical twins

have different fingerprints. There and there you have the print.

Throughout the history of fingerprinting, they are the many

exciting developments. A major breakthrough came in 1997 when

scientists work out how to extract DNA from them. But investigators

are still left with a problem. Crime scenes often contain hundreds

of fingerprints. The new technology could provide more information from

a print to help eliminate all convict a suspect. Extraordinary

though it may sound, from a single fingerprint left at the scene of a

crime, it is now possible to tell not just who was there but what

they were doing. Dr Simona Francese or at Sheffield Hallam University

is developing ways to identify substances someone has come into

contact with simply from their fingerprint. What is interesting in

analysing these fingerprints is that whatever you have touched can

potentially be detected. And not only can she tell what someone has

touched, she can even reveal what they have consumed. It sounds

incredible, and so I am going to put it to the test. I have

deliberately exposed myself to a number of substances that she is

able to identify. But she does not know which ones. How much will she

be able to tell from my fingerprints? Just like the

traditional method, she dusts the can and lift the print with take. -

- Take. But what is different is that she is extracting chemicals

contained in the print. A mass spectrometer identifies the

chemicals. After a couple of hours, the results are ready. It looks

like you have been quite generous with some sort of hair wax products.

Yes! And I wonder whether or not you have been drinking coffee,

because there is evidence that caffeine has been excreted through

your fingerprints. It is such a strange thought that you can detect

that I have drunk a cup of coffee simply from looking at my

fingerprint. Yes. I am very impressed. She did not detect the

de-icer I had used, but two out of three is good going for a technique

still in its infancy. So how will this help police? If we can

restrict the amount of fingerprints that we have to check by finding

out what is actually in them and the likelihood of them being the

offenders, it will cut down the amount of time we spent working on

the case. They hope to use this to detect illegal substances, like

drugs and explosives, in fingerprints. This could provide

powerful new evidence linking a suspect to a crime. I have been

working in the fingerprint bureau for 32 years, and this is one of

the most significant breakthroughs that I have known. The work is

being funded by the Home Office and should be ready for the police to

use in about three years. It may well be the next big thing in

forensics. The moral of that story is, if you

do not want to know what people are put in your hair, used de-icer.

Anyway, it is 30 years since a trim of's diaries were published, and

although teenagers are very different today, Alex Riley thinks

there are plenty of Adrian Moles in Thursday 24th July 1986, got some

spurts. The girl in the grocer's was even nicer looking and served

me with a twinkle in her eye. I suddenly desire to buy groceries.

Anyone who has kept a teenage diary would probably care to forget the

growing pains of puberty with its pent-up frustrations, acne and

unrequited love. Or is that just me? What is in yours? Warts-and-all,

really, very kind of Adrian Mole. My daughters do. Have you read

them? That is a yes, then! How long have you kept it for? Since I was

11, and I am now 74. I know I am an intellectual, I saw Malcolm

Muggeridge on television last night, and I understood nearly every word.

The most famous teenage diary in Britain is probably that written by

Adrian Mole, first published 30 years ago, and the creation

reflected the inner thoughts and secrets of a generation. Did you

ever keep a diary yourself? No, I didn't. I started, like everybody

else started. I wish I had kept a diary or my life. Do you think

Adrian Mole would be on social networking now, rather than keeping

a diary? The important thing about the title of that book is secret

diary, and I think he might still prefer, you know, the actual diary

form, the tangible, the book, the thing you can open and make marks

in. What advice you think he would give to a teenager starting a diary

today? A be absolutely honest, as honest as you can be, because there

is no point in writing your life if it is not honest. But there are

teenage diaries just cringe worthy self-indulgence or genuine

historical documents? Dr Finkel is a creator at the British Museum and

the founder of a new project created to save the diaries are

ordinary people. I think diaries are about the most important of

human documents, and the point is that we want to rescue diaries of

all kinds, on the assumption that in 150 years' time such documents

will be crisis because they talk about daily life in people's own

words in a way that nothing else does. So his diary writing in

danger of dying out, and to the kids of today appreciate what they

have to offer? Hello, everyone! I am Alex. We set to the exercise of

keeping a diary over the weekend. How did you find it? It was OK.

was boring. I am not trying to be rude or anything, but people who

have no friends talk to their Tiree. Were do you mind reading a bit of

that? On Saturday, I went to the Royal Infirmary to help out in the

children's ward, and they all had a form of cancer, so I felt sorry for

them. After that, we went upstairs and played zombies for two hours

and 30 minutes. I am going to be on the One Show. I am so excited and

nervous. Apart from that, nothing much happened. That is it. All this

technology, something new in five years' time, it will be lost

forever. Get a diary, write it now, this will last forever, it will

always be work, it will always be compatible! Unless it falls in a

pond. Unless it falls in a pond... Their is information about Dr

Finkel's Great Diary Project on our website, and Sue Townsend's new

book, The Woman Who Went To Bed For A Year, is out now. Robert, one

date for your diary is you're going to be David Mitchell's best man.

is a popular guy, and there are lots of very strong candidates, but

I ran a strong campaign, a lot of e-mails, text messages, a mock

wedding cake made out of cardboard with, I am warning you, written in

lipstick. He got the message. you started the speech was marked

that was the beginning, but now I have blown it on TV, so I'll have

to think of a new start. Thank-you to Robert, his new series starts

this autumn on Disney Junior UK. Tomorrow will we be joined by two