24/05/2012 The One Show


24/05/2012

Graham Norton is in the studio before flying off to Azerbaijan for the Eurovision Song Contest. Dr Mark Porter discovers how distracting the brain can result in less pain.


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Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker and Alex Jones.

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With just three days to go until the most watched and you'll non-

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sporting event on a Saturday in May, in the world ever, the Saturday is

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abuzz with excitement for this Saturday's Eurovision Song Contest.

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That's enough! That's enough! The brief was excitement, that was over

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the top! And the man keeping us entertained throughout will be Mr

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Graham Norton. Thank you, thank you. Graham, you are bound for the

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airport within a matter of hours. It is very exciting. Have you seen

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Engelbert Humperdinck in the German flag. He is not a fall, he is going

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for votes! His mother is half- German? Engelbert, let's face it...

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People won't know where he is from. They really weren't! The Germans

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have a good entry this year. Very good. Germany have done so much to

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irritate the rest of Europe going into this, that they may have blown

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it for the poor boy. We heard that Spain don't want to win it because

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they can't afford to. Greece is quite a good song, what if they

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win? A they'd better not turn up. Everyone wants to come second!

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Eyes of a with a pain in my side every day at 7:00pm. I am only

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joking, I can't carry it off! On a more serious note, there are around

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10 million people in the UK living with constant pain every day.

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Doctors are discovering that distracting the brain could be the

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I am just about to disappear inside one of the most advanced brain

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imaging systems in the world. It is helping scientists in Oxford unlock

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the secrets of the most mysterious of all human sensations, plane. --

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pain. These machines can see pain impulses arriving in the brain.

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Pain is in the brain, that is its job. The brains job is to process

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those signals that are coming in, often from the damaged bit of the

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body and give you that experience. How are you doing? I am inside

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abortion issue! I am about to be given shots of burning -- I am

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inside a washing machine. I am about to be given shots of burning

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plane. We are giving him a five second heat steamers which he is

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writing a seven to read, so that is strong. A couple more seconds, he

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will want to take the device of -- The images of processed, hot spots

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light up to show the extent of the pain in my brain. The Burn causes

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what is called acute pain, it can last a few seconds or few months,

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alerting the brain to damage and given the body time to heal. Some

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people suffer chronic pain, which can last a lifetime, either because

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the injury can't heal, or more mysteriously, long after it has

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gone away. Professor Irene Tracey wants to understand chronic pain,

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and beat it. Jenny Parkes knows how debilitating chronic pain can be.

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Hers began seven years ago after a minor injury. I didn't expect

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anything like this to go on as long as it did. It is like I have a

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burning hot rods stuck in the side of my neck, my neck gets very stiff

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and I get headaches. Nobody could pinpoint or explain why I had back

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pain. I saw quite a few doctors and a couple of them told me I was

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putting it on, more or less. desperation, Jenny joined a four-

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week course at St Thomas's Hospital in London. No new drugs, no fancy

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treatment, instead, a programme to encourage the brain to take control.

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Her goal is to get people doing more and to be more functional, to

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participate. Exercise, socialising, discussion, even facing forgotten

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chores like ironing, are all part of the course designed to put

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chronic pain into the background. If you are desperate, depressed,

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not working, if you're paying won't go away, if it has been years, this

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is the approach that is the most likely to get you functioning again.

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These people still suffer pain, but learned to put it into the back of

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their minds. Jenny Parkes is now fully active and back at work.

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Although the pain is there in the background, I am not focusing on it,

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which I was before. Once you understand the mechanics of it, it

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takes the fear out of it. It means I can get back to my normal life

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and I am not thinking about my neck the whole time. It seems too simple

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to be true. Somehow the brain is putting paint to one side. Back in

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Oxford, Professor Irene Tracey is using a machine that can see inside

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your head to explore how this could be. She showed me what her

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experiments with brain scans are starting to reveal. The coloured

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bit is activity? Exactly right. That is where the brain is actually

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working. It is not just one little area that is responsible for

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monitoring bone pain? For many years, people for there was one

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bits mac that people thought there was one bit. It is a lot more

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complicated. We take our minds of pain by stimulating different areas

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of the brain. I can produce in the scanner, but have you do

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complicated maths so you are distracting. Even though you're

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doing -- getting the same Ed Byrne, you will tell me it does not hurt

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as much -- getting the same ban. Our camp these results have people

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living with long-term pain? information is very helpful because

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it helps us translate it to patients, to say these are the bits

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you can tap into. Because if you tap into that, you have an in-built

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system to turn the paying off. It is just as powerful as turning the

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temperature down -- to turn the paying off. This is a fantastic

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that -- a fascinating subject. Is it as simple as that in the thought

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to the back of your mind? I wish. That course that we look at looks

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at lot of different ways of dealing with pain. These are people living

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with paint and it can't often be medical explain, it can't be helped.

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They think pain when they wake up so their mobility has gone. They

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are in a visit to -- a vicious spiral down. The pain management

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helps them live with the pain. Distraction is one of the

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techniques, one of many. Lots of people will be sceptical but if you

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are in chronic pain and have been for five, eight years, you would

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try anything. Are these courses readily available? It is a very

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specialist course available on the NHS through referral from your GP,

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but you have to be pretty desperate and have had quite a problem to get

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to a course like that. Areas around the country will have pain

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management tennis, offering the same sort of approach. Not dealing

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with more injections but dealing with how you cope with the pain. In

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nearly every big NHS area, they are available for free, and you have to

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be referred through your GP. And the patient has to have faith.

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Being told that you will be taught to live with your pain rather than

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cure it is difficult. Do you have any issues, Graham? The worst pain

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I had was when I broke three ribs, that stays with you. I know what

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they mean about pain, it does likely go away as you live your day

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and it is at night, when all distraction has gone, that is when

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the toothache is worse, your elbow A classic thing is the rugby player.

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At the time you don't notice the pain. To have the skills to be able

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to do the pain management. Pain management teaches you how to cope

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and relax and not to make the pain all-consuming. Is this the future?

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Irene Tracey, we touched about her work but -- touched on her work but

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she is helping us understand it. We treat chronic pain as a disease in

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its own right, rather than a symptom, and treat people how to

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manage it better. Maybe we can come up with drugs that act on the brain

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rather than the money itself. -- rather than your knee itself.

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of people hate injections, Graham? I don't mind them. For those people

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who hate them... Any half-decent doctor or nurse will tell you do

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not draw the syringe in front of the patient, you distract them and

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would you hopeful, is that it, that is the idea of a good amp the --

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injection. You are doing a few more films for us? We are doing both tax

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and headaches -- Botox and headaches, and we are meeting a man

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who can't feel any pain at all. He may have the answer to some of the

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problems but we have to wait and see. Now it is time for Mike Dilger

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to play red or black on the Pennines, with some wild grouse.

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Britain has many impressive bird species, but only a handful perform

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an intricate courting dance. Performed in a very specific

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location called a lake. This is the process where males congregate on a

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regular patch, to display and fight, all with the ultimate aim of

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attracting many mates as possible. One of these species has been in

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real trouble. Black grouse numbers are low. In 2010, there were less

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than 500 miles in England. Part of the problem is that they need a

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variety of habitats, like heather moorland and dense grassland, which

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have disappeared. Phil Oren from the Game and Wildlife Conservation

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Trust has been working to restore those areas -- Philip Warren. But

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it is only part of the problem. Males tend to gather at the lack

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rather than travelling, so they don't spread, but the hens do.

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the young hens that are born here move in the first year. They are

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moving on average nine kilometres, but up to 30. We have lacks in the

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corner of the range getting bigger and on the edge of the reins, hens

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are moving to areas where there are no Mail's -- edge of the range.

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solution comes at night. By catching surplus males and moving

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them to newly-planted areas with the females, he can spread the

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population. Black grouse are so rare and nervous, it has got to be

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dark or they will fly away. The chips are stacked against us,

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because the much more common red grouse lives here, too. There are

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thousands of them and just a handful of blacks. It is like

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playing grouse roulette in the dark. It is not easy. This is not quite

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mission impossible, but not far off. It is almost an hour before we

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catch a glimpse of something. We have just caught sight of a grouse,

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he has got the eyes shine reflected in that head torch. Red or black,

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let's see. We have got a grouse, and it is red. I have never seen a

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red grouse close. How much more common are the red grouse here?

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this time of year you would find 30 per square kilometre, the black

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grouse, typically more one per square kilometre. In five years,

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Phil and his team have caught and relocated just 39 males. And I can

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see why. Was there something there? Another read, and another. That is

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three hours' solid graph, and not a single black grouse to be found. It

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is like a needle in a haystack, looking for them. To make up for it,

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Phil has promised me a treat. On one condition, have to get up super

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Five miles up the road is an established Lech and a special hide.

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Phil had to get me into the hide whilst it was still dark, otherwise

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we might have spent the black grouse, which hopefully will be

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dancing on an out here, as soon as it gets light. -- the leg just out

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here. As dawn arrives, so do the grass with their beautiful bubbling

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call. All of a sudden, the light has improved and those white

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bottoms are standing out like huge rosettes. This is a spectacle. And

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with a female black grouse arrived, the real show begins. Phil, the

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birds have suddenly got incredibly active. Yes, two hens have arrived

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in the middle. The males are going absolutely bonkers, they are

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running around the females, jumping up in front of them, trying to

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Thanks to Phil and his night missions, black grouse have doubled

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in England in the last two years. We did not catch up with a black

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grouse last night, but Phil has delivered this morning, 25 times

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over! He looks absolutely shattered, Mike. I know, he is always rooting

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around in the dark. Bless him. We will treat him and give him a film

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in the day, soon. Now, Graham Norton, you have just

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met up with Madonna? Well, I met her. Not even soberally.

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Did she affect you? It was a semi- religious experience. You know, you

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have met a lot of famous people, I have, it is different to that, it

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is on another level. Imagine meeting Oprah.

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I did meet her after Blue Peter, we ended up talking about wrestling.

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Bizarre. We actually wrestled with Madonna.

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But you are not a massive Madonna fan, are you? I don't mind. She is

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alright. He prefers Neil Diamond.

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The funny thing is you end up talking about odd things, she ended

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up confronting you about why you asked -- named your dog after her.

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I didn't name the dog after you! I know, the dog is called Madge...

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But... What does that mean? Well, it was a rescue dog... Wait! It was

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a rescue dog, when I went to the rescue place, they had already

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called her Madonna, so I thought I can't have a dog called Madonna, so

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I called her Madge. What is the other dog's name?

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Bailey. Not Gaga?! Did you feel more tense

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as you are a Madonna fan? Were you worried that the programme would

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not go well? I so wanted it to go well, but once it starts, you are

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at work. You know, Madonna is at work too, but you are at work and

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you just get on with it, but it was a huge relief when it was done and

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dusted and I was able to give myself a big tick on the bucket

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list. Was the dog really called Madonna? Oh, it was. Imagine being

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in the park, "Madonna! Madonna." We are such good friends.

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Now, the Eurovision Song Contest, have you done lots of revision for

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this? Loads! It is a long journey, so I will be reading owl the -- all

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the way. You are in the commentary box?

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is a funny booth at the top. You are miles away. You can look out

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the window, but if you really want to see everything there is a

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monitor. A television. Set the scene, is it warm, do you

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have to squint to see the stage is tiny. There is two of us, that

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is all it fits. You look out, the stage is a mile away.

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You get a good sense of the atmosphere, the spectacle of it all.

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I don't know if you have seen the semi-finals, the Stadium is

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enormous, and it is specifically built.

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Well, we have done you a little test to help you out with swotting,

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it is called Your Revision. First of all, have you seen the

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pronouncation for the Greek entry? It is a tough one. Alex has been

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practising it. How would you say that? Etheral.

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That's good. Well, I was close.

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Yours is better. I like to make a few mistakes to

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make myself appear hiem! There is a lass with toot use, -- tat use.

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Yes, she has "believe" and then "love" do you know who that is?

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she through to the finals? She has. I would say she is rough as guts.

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Oh, oh, Netherlands! I think she is going through? I think she is going

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through tonight. He is clued up. Well, don't miss Graham Norton's

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show tomorrow night and the Eurovision Song Contest on Saturday

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at 8.00pm. Now it is one of the hardest jobs in the world, you

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don't need qualifications or get paid, you have guessed it, we are

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talking about parenting. In a new scheme, parents are to be given the

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opportunity to attend parenting classes, but is being a good mum or

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dad being something that you can really learn? Cherry Healey went to

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find out. In twine, my beautiful daughter, --

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in 2009, my beautiful daughter was pose. Now I am presented with a

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difficult question: How to become the best possible parent for my

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daughter? It is one of the best jobs in the world. It can be hard

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sometimes, no-one can prepare you for the things you are going to

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face. The tricky thing is that kids don't come with a manual. Will you

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come and tidy your toys up? No, I don't want to.

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Well, help may be at hand. The Government is piloting a scheme in

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selected areas in the country, through which any parent with a

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child under the age of five is entitled to a voucher worth �100 in

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parenting classes. Today I'm off to find out the secret by attending

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one of them. According to the Government, 85% want more help with

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practical help with their children, according to the Government.

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What would you say you need more of? I want help with my kids.

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I have three boys. I am a panicky mum. I am worried. Something --

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sometimes I hold back with my boys. Sometimes I think I'm not a good

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mum. I think so many mums feel they are

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not being good enough. It is not an exact science science it is very

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scary? It is. It is. I hope after the course I can let go of the fear

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and be a good mum for my kids. So, I have my voucher. I don't want

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to be late. This course is run over five weeks and covers the big ones,

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communication, love, and today's hot topic... The theme today is

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rules. At the moment, the scheme is being

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trailled in Camden in London with more due in middleshire and

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Derbyshire, but if it proves a success, there are plans to roll it

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out across the country. We are asking ourselves to spend

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more time with our children, listening to them. So, how did you

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get on? I ended up chatting with my son a lot. It was really beautiful

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to sit with him and talk with him. That's lovely. One of the things

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our children needs is attention. Remember last week... This course

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is run by a mother of free, Bebe, she's been parenting coach for a

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year. Do you think that we really need

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the classes? Don't people parent by insink? The group -- parent by

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instinct? The group is so supportive of each other. There is

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a relief to talk to each other and know they that are not the only

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parent in the world trying to get their child to sleep at night.

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halfway through the session and now I'm beginning to enjoy it. After

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the introductions and everyone relaxed, it has been a lot of fun.

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I have four things to do when I go home. Why are you doing this class?

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To help improve my way of dealing with the children it is not

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necessarily for badly behaved Children In Need or bad parenting,

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but it is to meet me in the middle with the children. All of the other

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things that people are doing, you think you may try that one.

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I have a cracking one from you, if they are being naughty to set on

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the step and think about what they have done. I'm going to use that.

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Most of this is common sense, but actually, why I amen joying it

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gives you time to think. Life is so busy. It is really nice to take a

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moment to think about how you parent.

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That really doesn't happen often. Because classes like these are

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voluntary, the critics of the scheme argue that they will not

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attract the parents that need them the most and others could be put

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off as they fear being labelled a bad parent.

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Thank you very much for coming to Parent Gym. I look forward to

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seeing you next week. So, the class is over, but, what

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have I learned? Will it make me a better parent? I was cynical about

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parenting classes, I thought I could get that information on the

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internet, but I have had a lovely time. It is great to hear parents

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talk honestly about what they are struggling with. It makes you feel

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less alone. I think that I would go to parenting classes again,

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actually, there is no such thing as a perfect parent.

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Would you go? Now that I have two, but at the beginning.

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Well, Graham we are sure you have been to dozens of film premieres,

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but tonight, now, are the stars all there, Lizzie? There are hundreds

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of stars, the villagers of Kingston Bagpuize, they have invested

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everything in this film, Tortoise In Love. They have funded this film,

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they have acted in it, they have let people stay in their house for

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weeks on end while it was filmed, now they are walking up the red

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carpet to their premiere. It is so exciting for the villagers. It is a

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captivating rom-com it is boy meets girl. Hilarious consequences,

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hopefully it will go global. Imagine how excited they are. This

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morning I spent time with them as they made their preparations.

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Ahead of the premiere, there is only one place to be in the village

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of qing Kingston, this that -- in the village of Kingston Bagpuize,

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that is the hairdresser's! Lovely, all appointments then blocked out

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for the film premiere. How would you describe the mood in the

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village today? I think it is electric. It is all that everyone

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is talking about. What was your part in the film?

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didn't have a name, I was just the old lady in the tea shop and

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because I am doddery any way, it was typecast... Do you need help?

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Myself and Angela and my team here we came in at 6.00pm and did the

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hair for the film. A critical question, have you got

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your dress sorted? Yes, I got my dress yesterday. I'm hoping that my

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husband will be talking to me when he finds out how much money I have

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spent on it. Sue, what was your involvement in

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the masterpiece? I headed up the WI catering team. I had 46 fantastic

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volunteers and we did nothing but bake.

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Not only were 400 locals involved in front and behind the camera, but

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the budget was raised by the local residents as well. This means that

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the community will share in financial success at the box office.

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Did I say that autoloud?! Now, it took two years from making the film

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for it to be drinted until tonight's premiere, did you think -

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-dies trib ueted d --dies Buted, did you think it would happen?

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us, it was a long time coming, but we are finally glad that we have

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achieved it. Now, I have to get my frock on.

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Usualally, the stars arrive in a limbo, but no, our villagers

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arrived in a tractor. Of course. David and his wife, Catrin are the

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local farmers. David, what was it like being in the film? You play

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yourself, basically? I do. It was great fun, but I decided I'm not

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cut out for acting. I don't think that Hollywood will come calling, I

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think that I will stick to milking cows.

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Now, lots of stars have walked the red carpet, but this is Joan. If

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Harvey Weinstein calls are you available? Of course I am! I'm not

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like him, I am ready for any offers. Do you know what, many stars are

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born tonight, Joan is one of them. Have a great night.

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That is classic British! Arriving in a tractor. That is all we have

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time for tonight. Thank you very much, Graham Norton. Don't miss the

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Matt Baker and Alex Jones present the stories that matter from across the country. Graham Norton is in the studio before flying off to Azerbaijan for the Eurovision Song Contest.

Dr Mark Porter discovers how distracting the brain can result in less pain.

In a new scheme set up by the government to help combat the breakdown in family discipline, parents will be given the opportunity to attend parenting classes. Cherry Healey went to find out if you can really learn to be a good parent.

And in London's Leicester Square there is the premiere of a new British film funded by the people of Kingston Bagpuize in Oxfordshire, with villagers acting as the cast and crew.


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