24/05/2016 The One Show

Hello and welcome to The One Show with Alex Jones.

And Matt Baker. Tonight we're joined by a man

who never lets on what he's thinking until he's given what's in front

of him a good poke and a prod. Hold out your arm, please.

It's firm, not too spongey. Yes, clean fingernails.

Textbook. It is the perfect Paul Hollywood! It

is the perfect Paul Hollywood. You can sit over there now, Paul. Cheers

for that. Always good to see you. We were talking before we came on air,

you are three from the end now. You can't say that! Too late! We are

doing well. We are over halfway, yes. Do you think you have uncovered

the new Nadiya? We have uncovered some great bakers, yes. You are

being very vague! 14 million viewers, your third Bafta. 15,

actually, but what's a million? When you got so many. Can you top it this

year? I don't know, every year, I was talking to Mary about the

figures, how they've grown over the years and maybe this is the year

where they have reached a plateau. Then there is the decline. What are

you saying? I don't know. You get a loyal audience and its bills. I

don't know, it would be nice but we love doing the programme. We don't

think of the numbers at all. We can't wait until it is back on our

screens. We have enjoyed it. Paul has been on his travels, collecting

the best bakes from around the world and we will find out what they are

later on. Here is a question for everybody, do you think the amount

of money you spend on somebody's funeral is an indication of how much

you love them? Joe has been meeting some people who think that the

answer is a definite no. With so much time and effort going into

making a living these days, facing up to the price of dying is often

the last thing on our minds. Unlike previous generations it seems we

have fallen out of the habit for saving for our funerals, leaving

family and friends to foot the bill. Experts say that the cost of dying

has risen seven times faster than the cost of living with the average

funeral coming in at ?4000. There is one of me and my dad, at a family

wedding. When Lauren's father died, as the eldest daughter she took on

the task of organising his funeral. He passed away very suddenly and I

felt it was my responsibility to take charge of the arrangements. I

went to the funeral directors, the bare minimum, half an hour service,

the cheapest coughing. The total cost was still over ?4500, even

though it was a basic no-frills funeral. The funeral director gave

me a box with my father's Ashes, with a sticker saying "The remains

of Michael O'Connor." Paying the bill left the family in debt. Some

experts are calling a funeral poverty. This lady hears similar

tales from across the country in her role as chair of the fair funerals

campaign. There are some brilliant directors who are responding to the

issue of poverty and trying to find more responsible options out there

are some funeral directors that are charging too much. Funeral directors

are running a business, it isn't a charity, they must make money.

Absolutely bad we must make them go the extra mile to give people

transparent and clear information about what funerals cost. There are

alternatives when you are planning a funeral, you don't have to use a

director. You could do it yourself. For many of us the thought of

arranging a DIY funeral would be too daunting. Buying a coughing, sorting

transport for the mourners and of course the dear departed, a lots to

think about. -- a coughing Dot -- coffin. This lady is planning a

special funeral for her 97-year-old mother who has Alzheimer's and is

being cared for in a hospice. I want to do all of the practical things

which at the moment people handover to undertakers. I want to prepare

her body. What is the plan, when the day comes, how are you going to

practically do everything you need to do? We are going to carry out on

a coffin and we will put her in the family car, the seats are folded and

the coffin fits and we will drive her home. The junior's mother will

be buried at a local cemetery. While making plans, Virginia is taking

advice from Rosie Baxter who runs the consumer advice charity, the

death centre. People say that they don't want money wasted on a

funeral, they want to put the money behind the bar. The bottom line is

that they have to think ahead. You have hit the nail on the head,

families have to talk about the inevitable. You have almost got give

your family permission not to feel guilty that they are not spending a

lot of money. Spending a lot of money does not equate with a great

funeral. That's an opinion echoed by Virginia. We'll give her a

tailor-made funeral which will represent the person she has been

all her life and the person that we love. Virginia's mother 's funeral

isn't really about saving money, it's about making sure she has a

personal sendoff and what I have taken from today that is so

important is people having a conversation with their family so

they know not only what they want, but how they are going to pay for it

when the time comes. That film has had the desired effect for me. Ever

since I saw it I have been... Planning! Looking into it, these

things that you don't think about. I have a list now. I think it's

important to talk about it. Paul, your situation, if you are not

planning your own funeral, how much would you want others to spend on

it? Get a load of firewood from the garage. I want a big funeral fire.

-- -- pyre. You basically wants to be baked? It is important because it

affects everybody. The National Association of Funeral Directors

have told us that a good undertakers should help to keep you under budget

and it is worth bearing in mind that even in a DIY funeral there are a

number of elements that have fixed costs, like the burial plot and

cremation fees. This is a hot topic of conversation. Let's talk about

your book, Paul, and the TV series, The Weekend Baker. You have been

meeting bakers all over the world. Is the idea that you showcase what

you have baked to them, or getting tips from them? I met people from

all over the world, I went to Miami, New York, Copenhagen, Naples. I

don't know how you did it! Then Madrid, Paris, London, Warsaw and

Saint Petersburg. It was amazing because the people I met, very

similar to me, they had their own quirks and flavours that I was

fascinated with. Miami was great, property lines which are this big.

It is difficult to get the zest off it. -- K

. Do you ever cook, Alex? Not really! Where does the weekend side

of it coming? The programme is called City Bakes on the Food

Network and it is shown at the weekend. It is the idea of going

away for a break. So The Weekend Baker came from that. The book is

all of the recipes we got from around the world, things like

chocolate cheesecake. But there's a difference, there is a chocolate

brownie with New York cheesecake in it. It is stunning. We can treat our

viewers do that. You don't hold back on the portions, either. Have you

done this before, making a brownie with cheesecake? Maybe next week.

Call it the Hollywood cheesecake. You'd like that. Wonderful. A lovely

blend. It has the texture of a brownie. The cheesecake is on its

own. A brownie is supposed to be this size. The pie wages were

proper, loads of cream on. In Russia we had something like a sausage roll

but the decoration was amazing. We went to Copenhagen, this thing about

warmth and putting the fire on, that is the Danish, Scandinavian weight.

And we had a meal which is basically wry bread with herring and mackerel.

-- Scandinavian way. When I did the book I wanted to make sure that we

got everything, I got recipes from these people and put them in the

book. We saw other things, a proper Danish pastry, which is fantastic,

wholemeal flour as well. So you have the balance. The flavour was much

stronger. I can't believe that you hadn't been to Paris. Come on, Paul!

You don't get a body like this from being on a diet. I have been to

Versailles in which is three miles down the road and I have been to

France many times but I've never actually been to the middle of

Paris. When we filmed there, it is quite poignant, the bombings were

five days later and we were filming in the place when it happened,

around that area. It was quite eerie for the crew. Paris, I fell in love

with the people, amazing people. The food, the culture, sitting outside,

the mixing, I fell in love with it. Everywhere you went, was work -- was

there one item that you thought you had in making wrong the entire time?

Yes, pizza! The most basic one of all! Was the last one you made?

About six weeks ago. When you are making pizza, I always thought, and

I've written books about it, you put in the oven for five, ten minutes.

You know how long they go in for? 45 seconds! Is that all? I worked with

somebody called Enzo in Naples, one of the best in the world. A

woodfired oven. Yes, the pizzas are so thin, literally 45 seconds, done,

and they were the best I had ever had. He called me the name for a

starter pizza maker. We have to ask you, many people will be wondering

about the future of the Bake Off. As far as you are concerned, the BBC,

what are your thoughts? I said before, it's not my choice. Stay!

Stay! If it was my choice, Mary and myself would like to stay on the BBC

because that is where the fan base is Common People who have grown up

with it and we want to stay with the BBC. I would prefer to stay with the

BBC. Paul's. The Weekend Baker is out now and Hollywood City Bakes is

on the Food Network from Saturday. Smacking is in the news with another

attempt of getting it banned in the UK. We have been finding out what

you think. Smacking your children, is it justifiable or is it akin to

Corporal punishment? This week, the children's commissioners meet with

the United Nations to discuss banning parents from smacking their

children so I have come to Birmingham to find out what people

here think. A little bit of a smack on the bottom never hurt anybody, I

had it when I was a child. I think a lot of people did. As long as you

don't go overboard. How do you feel about smacking children? It's

disgusting. Are you to smack my own children, sometimes they need a

smack. You don't go to an extreme. I used to be a schoolteacher, a

headteacher and I never smacked one. The tone of voice was enough to calm

the riot. Excuse me, sir, you wouldn't advocate smacking? No. If

you smack them once, twice, they will get used to this and even if

you smack them again and again. OK if they have done wrong, but don't

overdo it because children have memories. I've never felt it

necessary to do that. It's a very outdated concept, I think society

has come a long way from those days in the 80s and 90s. Also I think

it's quite upsetting, seeing another person being actually hurt,

physically. It is like sport, isn't it, you wouldn't tolerate an adult

hitting another adult. How do you feel about the United Nations

telling us that you are not allowed to do it as a country? Keep out,

mind your own business. You don't need somebody else to tell you how

to bring up your child. You have to make your own way, don't you, as a

parent. Some people are doing things that but they do not think it is as

bad. I was smacked. If you put a ban on it there is no

grey area or cause for confusion. Paul

If you put a ban on it there is no grey area or cause for confusion. Go

to your room - that's enough in our house. Or the naughty step. Bake

bake isn't just Britain's programme. Many countries have their own

version. And they all have their own Paul Hollywood. This is German Bake

Off, Das Grosse Backen. You can see the set is almost identical. Paul

there is a bit thinner but he has a bit of a beard. Which one is Paul

there? On the right. We've got five judges from various television shows

around the world. Three of them are Paul counterparts, right? Yes. They

are Hollywood in everything but the name. Right. OK? He is called Tart,

the guy in the bottom right. The other two are from other shows. You

have to guess which three are your counterparts. Time to play Ites

Hollywood or Bust. Take your pick really. I will go for Tjaart. Yes,

Tjaart is from the great South African Bake Off. He worked as a

personal chef to celebrities. He has a strong command in show-stopper

desserts. He is... Mary. LAUGHTER. Yes, he is from the Bake

Off. Pick another one. Benefit. Pick another one. Benefit. Eto - he is

clean-shaven. He is Beto Perez. He is Colombia's answer to Strictly

Come Dancing. The most amazing fact is he is best known for creating the

fitness programme zumba, in the 1990s. Beto was teaching an aerobics

class and zumba was born. Fabrizio. He is a bit of a unit. Bake Off

Brazil, it means Hands On. Are we in Brazil? You were everywhere. As

we've heard, for Paul's new book, he has travelled the world, brought

back recipes for us all to bring home. Emma Dabiri's food proved a

hit with the pie and marsh-loving clientele. In the 1960s London was

grinding to a halt. Mainly labour shortages meant there was no-one to

drive the buses and trains. Over 9,000 workers came from the west

endies to help get London moving again. But London Transport didn't

just hire drivers. Drivers. They also hired 2,000 people to feed

them. And many of these were women. Rose Morgan, one of the original

canteen Queens, came to Britain from Jamaica in the mid 1950s. She's

since been awarded an OBE for her work in the kitchens. Some things

were very different from home. When the cold weather comes in, you say,

God, I wish I was home. But afterwards, with a layer of warm

clothes and you drink as much hot stuff as you can to keep you warm.

Writer and broadcast andser Mike Macmillan thinks the experiences for

women were very different from the men. Of course, coming into a

strange place as a young woman, probably a teenage young girl, it

was really a struggle for them. Often you wouldn't see any women,

much less Caribbean women, associatising or being independent.

Rose, from what Michael has been saying, it sounds like it was tough

for the women. Sometimes it could be a bit shaky, when you had to do

shift jobs. But on the same hand it teaches you a bit of trade. London

Transport realised that social events might help their newcomers

settle in, so they organised day trips to the seaside, boxing matches

and beauty contests. A little birdie tells me you won one of the beauty

contests, is this true? Can you remember what you wore? A nice long

green dress, with everybody there. It was nice. And were you surprised

when you won, how did you feel? I was flabbergasted. I could not

believe. It was a way of bringing people together. We have to remember

there was a hostile environment people were working in. These

workers had been recruited from the Caribbean, so London Transport

weren't keen to lose them. They were a valuable asset to the company. And

back in the canteens these new West Indian cooks wanted to spice things

up, introducing an authentic taste of the Caribbean to the food. Dave

worked for London Transport in the late 1960s. I was a conductor in

1962. And then I became a driver. You had things like sausages and

pies. Chips with everything. Then these ladies arrived and brightened

life up for us. What kind of changes did you start to notice? The women

were a bit shy of introducing their own stuff, but gratefully they did.

Many of the drivers and conductors loved it, enjoyed it. The pies were

getting dumped because people were eating curries and stews and all

sorts of interesting Caribbean food. Taste buds were set alight with

Rose's mix of meats like goat, and spices turmeric, cumin and chilli.

We followed one of Rose's most popular recipes, Jamaican chicken

curry. Will Rose approve? That looks nice. Yummy yummy. Would you mind

telling us the recipe? A bit of sweet pepper, onion, garly. And then

you curry. And now for the ultimate test we are going to serve this to

the punters to see how this goes down. Are you ready? I'm ready.

Who's next? Are you having a finger licking? Yes! Our stomachs are full

now. That's right. It is like mama's cooking. Oh! How does ma make you

feel to see that your dishes are popular as ever? There's no place

like home. That looks like my type of curry. It is curry Wednesday

tomorrow in the BBC canteen. Now we've had the main course we can

move on to dessert. Do you recognise this canteen? No. Well, that is

Mosslands School, where you went. Is it?! Can I see it again? Is your

memory failing you? It's changed. That used too be the hall. Anyway,

we set the caterers at RCEDWHITE Anyway, we set the caterers at

Mosslands School a challenge - to bake two puddings. The first was

your apricot and fig tart, which looks delicious. The other was Mary

Berry's plum and marzipan tarte tatin. They went out on the piazza

and handed them out. They are getting reactions from people, to

see which one people in general preferred. Which one do eral

preferred. Which one do you think people preferred - your tart or

Mary's tarte tatin? My tart. It's creamier. Cocky! Let's find out. Oh!

It was Mary's. That's rigged. I will tell you why, it was quite simply

because Mary's was easier to Eton street. Is that all it is? If you

had a spoon and a bowl, you would go for that any day. We'll have a go

now. Before I watched this next film I had no idea if you stuck an

ordinary household fluorescent tube in the ground underneath an

electricity pylon, white light up. Nobody could think of doing that.

More than 4,400 miles of overhead power lines crisscross the British

countryside. There's little evidence to suggest that power lines like

these deter our native wildlife. We've all seen birds happily taking

a breather and not getting harm. But recent reports suggests that one

animal who used to live here until a few hundred years ago does go out of

its way to avoid power lines. The reasons why could teach us a lot

about the sensory world in which they live. Reindeer went extinct 600

years ago in Britain. The reintroduced Netherlands the

Scottish mountains are on private estates, where their movement is

restricted. But recent research from Norway suggests that reindeer there

are altering their movements to avoid power lines will. Scientists

think that they can sense something that humans and other animals can't,

perhaps electricity itself. High-voltage power lines are

surrounded by an electrical field. We can show that it is there with

the help of some of these. We are planting an array of everyday

fluorescent tubes. We've worked closely with the local electricity

company to ensure that this is safe to do. But we don't recommend that

you try this yourself. All we need to do is wait for night-fall to see

the effect. There's electricity in the air. Enough to turn the lights

on. I wasn't sure this was going to work, but it has. The electrical

field created by the overhead power lines carries enough charge through

the air to light up these tubes. If I touch it, it goes on and off. Air

is a poor conductor, so the current reaching us is very low. About the

equivalent to standing next to a fridge. Just enough to create this

unusual sight. So can reindeer detect the electrical field? We know

that some animals have this ability, but there is no evidence to suggest

that reindeer have a strong electrical sense. So what else could

be going on? Take a look at this footage. It is from an electrical

survey company. It is filmed with a camera that's sensitive to

ultraviolet light. These are tiny bursts of electricity emitted from a

line when it's in need of repair or when it's hit by rain or snow. These

flashes are invisible to the human eye but should be visible to

reindeer. I met up with Professor Glenn Geoffrey. Their visual range

is extended. We don't see ultraviolet UV. Why do they Y have

this ability in the first place? It buys them great advantages. It lives

in a dark environment in winter, so any extra light you can light you

can get into your eye - bonus. The lichens they live off in winter

absorb UV, so things are thrown into much more contrast. We see a little

bit of grey coming through the snow, but they see a very dark patch. So

it stands out? It really stands out. It's main predator is the wolf. Long

white fur will absorb UV. The reindeer will see that in much

higher contrast. It will give a few extra seconds to run before the wolf

is likely to attack it. Experts believe that reindeer might be

avoiding power lines because their UV vision means they see them as

lines of sparkling lights, possibly even a constant glow. It is another

example of how animals' sensory powers enable them to see the world

in a way that we can only imagine. Fascinating. I will tell you an

animal you can spot that pot that does see in UV - a kestrel. These

bakes are lovely. I like this. Yeah, I want to question the custard, but

this one here... That might be Calum's fault from Mosslands. That

one is slightly raw. Oh Paul, you're such a bad loser. We have to say

thank you to Calum. Paul's The Weekend Baker is out now and his

series City Bakes is on the Food Network. Mary won. Goodnight.

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