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Wow! Hello and welcome to a red hot one show. With Matt Baker. And Alex

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Jones. Listen, Tim is here because we will explore science of fire

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breathing later on. First, let's meet tonight's guest, who is more

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used to burning up the race track and setting fire to world records.

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Here comes Chris Hoy. On the outside. Who will get it? I think

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Hoy got it. Will he get it? The answer is, yes - Chris Hoy is the

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world champion. Hoy takes it. Chris Hoy is the world

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champion! It is Sir Chris Hoy. Of course it

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is! How are you? Very well. How are you? Very good. I suppose you have

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put your bike in the shed, so to speak in professional terms. You

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have turned to being a children's author. We will hear later. You have

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signed a lot of books. We wonder if your arms are thicker than your

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thighs? Not far off it. I have signed 500 books in under 55 minutes

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it was. Not that I am a competitive person that I will time it or

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anything! You are not competitive at all, you sports people! The books

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feature a young boy and his granddad who build a bike together. Tonight,

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we would like to see something you have worked on with your grandparent

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on. So, whatever you have worked on, send us a picture with your project

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and we will show some later on. We are familiar with blood and/or began

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donations. Stem cell donations have made headlines recently thanks to

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campaigns. Lucy Siegle has met people whose mixed heritage has

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faced unique challenges in their fight against cancer. Today I am

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meeting Lois, his 13-year-old's daughter, Zara is being treated here

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for cancer. She is in desperate need of a transplant which will help to

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save her life. Tell me how Zara is doing? She amazes us for a 13 year

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old. The first time that she was told that she had cancer, she asked,

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does that mean I am going to die? It is like somebody has taken a bat to

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your face. What do you say? What did you say? Immediately, my answer was,

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"No." What is happening with the search at the moment? So, Zara has

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been referred to London transplant centre and they search all the

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registries that exist around the world. I am of Arab decent and

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Karensa my wife is British. Having that mixed heritage causes some

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difficulty in finding a match. There are eight billion people around the

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world and there is a tiny amount of them on these registries.

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Unfortunately, although I would love to meet Zara I cannot because she's

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in an isolation ward, having gone through another bout of chemo

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therapy. It is too risky for anyone else to meet her. Joe from Delete

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Blood Cancer UK has been working closely with Zara and her family to

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find a match. This is a really, really serious situation. There's no

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point in sugar-coating this, is there? She needs a donor to survive.

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We appeal to come forward. You could become Zara's life saver. Why don't

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more of us become donors? Well the issue seems to be when it comes to

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stem cell donation we find it a bit scary and invyive. The charity

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Anthony Nolan has made busting these types of myths a top priority. We

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have had to dispel the myths so people understand it is a simple

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process. It is like donating blood. Tell me about a recent success you

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had. In January we had a young 24 year, Lara, who needed a transplant

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and her family and friends launched this most inspirational campaign. We

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have searched globally to find a match.

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Who did you hear from and where were they? A lot of people in Italy had

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heard about it and Italy. -- Thailand and to Australia. One story

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in Thailand who took an eight-hour bus to Bangkok because he heard

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about the campaign and went to donate. What was it like when you

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heard that a match had been found? It is hard to put it into words like

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how grateful I am. And to think that my donor was one in 26 million on

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the registry just shows that the need of more people to sign up, so

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that everyone can find that match of theirs.

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Lara has been given a life-line. For Zara, the wait goes on.

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How many times a day do you think about a possible donor? Every

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moment. Every waking moment. Please, please come forward. And the

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more people we can have on these bone marrow registries, the better.

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There are people waiting for that gift of life.

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Good luck to both girls. We wish you all the best. Having watched that I

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am sure there'll be hundreds out there wanting to help Zara and

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wanting to know whether they are a match. How do we find out? Is the

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test pretty straightforward by now? The test is really straightforward.

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There are three main bodies that will allow you to come forward for

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stem cell donation. The first is British bone mar row registry, if

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you live in the UK except for Wales, where it is the Wales bone marrow

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registry. Then we heard from Delete Blood Cancer and you have to weigh

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over 55kgs and be healthy. The age varies between the different bodies

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but because 16-65 you might be considered by one of those. It is

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easy to do the test. You can register online or register when you

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go in. You can do a test inside your mouth. Send it off. You will be

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added to a national registry and they all pool their resources.

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What's more, they pool them internationally, so you could help

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somebody from another country or if you ever needed it yourself, they

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could help you. What is the process then of donating? Is it painful? It

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used to be considered to be a really big procedure because a bone marrow

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transplant you would have a general and they would need to take samples

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from your bone marrow, usually inside your hip. These days 90% of

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them are done by peripheral stem cell transplant. That does not

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involve an thetic. You have one needle taking the cells out. They

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pop them out and pop them back in again. It takes four to five hours.

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Usually in London and you have four days of hormone beforehand to

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increase your level of stem cells to make it that bit better. Are there

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any side effects or risks? Any procedure has risks, but overall

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this is a safe procedure. You might find you are achy, a little bit of

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flu-like symptoms, back pine afterwards. Affect you would be

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fully briefed before you had it. With blood groups so many can help

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each other - how does it compare to mixed heritage stem cells? You need

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to match the tissue type and most of the genes. They come from your

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parents. Your genes are more likely to be very varied. People with

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different ethnic backgrounds will have different genes. That is why

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they try to find a family match. About 30% of people get a family

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match. The rest have to come from those wonderful generous people out

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there, who put themselves pore r forward address donors. --

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themselves forward as donors. We should all help each other. If you

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want more information head to our website. It is all there for you.

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Two years ago the Government gave extra funding to help rogue websites

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shut down companies which charge people for services which should be

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for free. For two-and-a-half million disabled drivers in the UK a blue

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badge in the windscreen is their ticket to independence, allowing

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them to park closer to their destination, including on yellow

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lines. But now those motorists who apply for their blue badge online

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are being targeted by a scam. Motorists like 73-year-old bren da

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Coles from Rochdale. She has a debilitating lung condition, coupled

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with severe arthritis in both knees. How important is the blue badge to

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you? It is extremely important. I could not get around without it.

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It is essential to my day-to-day running. Every three years Brenda

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has to renew her blue badge. In January she went to this website,

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she thought it was the official Government site. This looks like the

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official website. They have got the blue badge symbol on the website. It

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looks so genuine. I didn't think twice when I did it. I just wanted

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to get my blue badge. The website is unofficial, yet it

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pops up at the top of google charges and charges ?49 for what it calls an

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assistance service. What did Brenda get for her ?49 assistance fee? She

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got one of these - an application form, something which is completely

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free on the official Government website. And the official fee for a

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blue badge, well ?2 in Northern Ireland. ?10 in England. ?20 in

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Scotland and free in Wales. North gate public services run the

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scheme on behalf of the Government in England, Wales and Scotland.

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Services director says bren da is far from alone. We have loads of

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complaints from people who feel they have been taken in. They paid money

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in good faith and received nothing. Some live close to the breadline.

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What can you to clamp down on this? They hide behind sites and it is

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hard to find out who is behind the schemes. Time to get digging.

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It turns out, despite being a service for British people, blue

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badge on line dot organise is registered all the way over here -

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in Panama. It is a tactic often used by sites

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to disguise the firm's real base. We discovered this website is also very

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similar to an old one - parking permit UK.com. That offered help

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with blue badge applications and all for the bargain price... Of you

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guessed it... ?49. The website disappeared last year, after

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complaints from disabled motorists and a public warn from a disability

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charity. A bit more digging revealed both parking permit and blue badge

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online sites are linked to one person. They are registered to a man

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called Ramario Depass - time to hit the road!

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We contacted him, so far he's not responded. We have tracked him down

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to addresses in Essex. First up, his home address. He's not

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in. Does Ramario Depass live here? He's my son. Do you know where he

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is? I don't know where he is. A lot of people have complained he's

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ripped off disabled people - providing nothing for ?50 fees for a

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service that disabled people can get for free. I don't know what you are

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talking about. No joy there. I do have a mobile number for him. I am

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sorry, but the person you have called is not available. I cannot

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say I am surprised. For a man who supposedly helps disabled people,

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he's not keen talking about it. We have one last port of call. An

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office in Brentwood, where he has his post delivered. Seeing how he

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likes his blue badges so much, we have made him one of his own. Unlike

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his service, have made him one of his own. Unlike

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it? Do you want me to put have made him one of his own. Unlike

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from? He'll know who we are. Brenda was left ?49 worse off for the

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copycat site, still had to pay ?10 to get her blue badge. He's a low

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life, conning people out of money. He should be closed down.

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Thank you, Dan. The good news is that since we alerted them to of

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these activities Google have taken down his site and we have passed on

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our findings to the investigators in the Trading Standards E crime unit.

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It should be the end. If you are watching get in contact and let us

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know you got that post. Anyway, Chris you have turned attentions to

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writing. Where did all this come from? Has it been a passion for a

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while? Well, I never thought I would get the chance to do it. Since I

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have retired from cycling I have tried to encourage kids to take up

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cycling through different ways, with my bike brand I have supported a Go

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Ride, to get two million kids the opportunity to ride bikes between

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now and 2020. This was an idea we came up with and hopefully to

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inspire them to read and cycle their bikes. You enjoyed the process, you

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said the great thing is there's no rules to it. How much input did you

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have to the plot? The whole thing really. I sat down with Joanna

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Nadin, a successful children's author. We hit it off and we

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brain-stormed about the different ideas we could have. We talked about

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my childhood, my inspirations when I was a kid, my cycling career, the

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things I saw and did. It was a long process, basically of coming one

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different points and ideas. There will be five books in

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The first one, the best birthday bike, is about Fergus receiving this

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bike for his birthday. He is hoping for a Sullivan Swift, which is

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all singing, all dancing, expensive all singing, all dancing, expensive

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new bike, and he is a bit disappointed to get his dad's

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second-hand disappointed to get his dad's

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it ready for you. And this is about him discovering something special

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when he rides it. That mirrors your story, because the first time you

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came on the One Show, you showed us this picture of a bike you got from

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a car-boot sale. It was a jumble sale. My parents bought it for ?5.

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That was where the inspiration came from. I loved it, it was fantastic.

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At that age, your first bike is amazing. And have you drawn on

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people you know as inspiration for the other characters? That is the

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beauty of it, you can pick and choose. I feel bad, because I have

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named names. I will say one of the characters - Bradley Wiggins

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inspired me. But it is not the whole character, it is his riding style.

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When I first saw Bradley Wiggins when he was a teenager, gangly, with

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long limbs, and no sideburns at that point. He looks like he might have

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been born with them. He was a classic teenager, a bit awkward at

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that stage. And then he got on a bike and it was like poetry in

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motion. He had this fluid pedalling style, and you could just tell he

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was built to ride a bike. Soy-based one of the characters on that -- so

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I based one of the characters on him. And you have dedicated this to

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your son, Callum. We have a lovely photo, like father, like son. You

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even have the same body position. He is about two now? He is 16 months

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now, and he has just started walking. He is so much fun. I look

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forward to when he is old enough that I can read the books to him.

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You are still looking incredibly fit, Chris. Thank you very much! It

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is remarkable. You are still obviously training hard. I ride my

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bike every day. I love cycling. There are days when I am travelling,

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but I try and do something every day, and you feel better for doing

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it. Technically, I am working, but really I am just out riding a bike.

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We have to talk about Rio, because it is coming quickly. This will be

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the first one where you are not part of Team GB since Sydney in 2000. How

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will it be watching the team compete and not being part of the team? It

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will be tough. I went to the combo of games in Glasgow and was the

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first big championship I went to where I was not part of the

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competition -- I went to the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow. It is

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fun because you get to soak up the atmosphere and enjoy it, whereas

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when you are competing, you are focused and single-mindedly thinking

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about yourself and your competition. But when the race starts, there will

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always be the feeling of wishing I was out there. I don't think I will

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go away. When I am in my 70s and 80s, I will remember the experiences

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and at times you had when you raced. More than that, I missed the

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day-to-day being at the track centre with the team and training on a

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daily basis. That is why I keep coming back to the velodrome, seeing

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the guys, hanging around. It must be invaluable, with the experience you

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have got. I still speak to the team regularly. I suppose I am a bit of a

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sounding board for them. I am not a selector or a coach. They can come

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to me and say, training is not going well, or it is going well, or

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whatever Tom and I can give them advice or say well done, or just

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chat about something else. Going back to the books, Flying Fergus is

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out today. You know what, I am really cold. Look at the hairs on my

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arms. Let's turn the heat up with some flaming good fire breathing.

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Here is Marty. Fire performance is thought to date

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back to Persia, more than 2000 years ago. Today, we are still fascinated

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by fire. But it goes without saying that you shouldn't try this at home.

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Fire and eating are impressive skills that take years to master.

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But how do these performers do it when they are quite literally

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playing with fire? For that, they need to really understand the

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science of combustion. Fire is a chemical reaction between oxygen, a

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fuel that is usually started with heat energy. And far performers use

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their understanding of these three crucial elements to manipulate their

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flame. -- fire performers. Dr Tim Cockerill, a fire breathing

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scientist, is going to reveal some red-hot tricks of the trade. The

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only secret to eating fire is following the rules of physics. So

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there is our flame. Other top, it very hot. But down here towards the

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bottom, it is a lot cooler colour so we always did our head right back so

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that the heat is going away from our face. Never breathed in. If you did,

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you would explode your lungs. Air is a poor conductor of heat, said Tim

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has a few seconds to hold the base of the flame in his mouth before it

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can burn him. He closes his lips around it, starving of vital oxygen

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and extinguishing the flame. But I want to know the secrets of the most

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impressive and dangerous stunt in the fire breather's repertoire. The

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human volcano. The real key to its success is in understanding the

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chemistry of your fuel, and disability to mix with the oxygen in

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the air. Different fuels have different volatility is, so this

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fuel, for example, is not very volatile, so it is not evaporating

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much. So there is not much of a per mixing with the oxygen. So if I take

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a match and throw it in, it just goes out. It doesn't like the fuel.

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Whereas this fuel is a very volatile fuel, so there is a lot of

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evaporation and a lot of vapour mixing with oxygen. So if I take a

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match and do the same thing... It ignites straightaway. Tim needs to

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create a huge fireball that erupts from his mouth. But surprisingly,

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it's not a highly volatile fuel that he uses. If you were to use a

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volatile fuel like alcohol, there would be a danger that the flame you

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produce could jump back to your mouth and set the rest of the fuel

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in your mouth on fire, which is a bad idea. So we use a tiny amount, a

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teaspoon of low volatile fuel, but we mix it efficiently with the air.

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The secret to this is all in the art of spitting. You practise firstly

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with water. You split the water into a vapour. It is how all fire

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breather is start off. All the fuel has dribbled down your face. You

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were also leaning over the flame, so that would have gone straight onto

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your moustache and your hair. I had better leave this highly dangerous

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stunt to the professional. Tim sprays the fine fuel missed over the

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torch. The finer the spray, the greater the surface area of the fuel

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droplets that are available for the oxygen to react to it. He stays

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below the flame, while also thrusting forward, creating a huge

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travelling ball of fire. Having learnt the scientific tricks of the

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fire breathing trade, I am, if anything, even more impressed by

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their skills and by the flame that they manipulate.

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Now, Tim is here from that film, because we are going to do some more

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fire experiments. I'm going to gently say, be careful when try this

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at home, because you will want to try it. It is unbelievable. We have

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all household stuff here, candles and glasses and water. We are going

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to show you a few experiments using fire, but on a smaller scale than

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fire eating. This one is called the seesaw candle. This might take a

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minute to get going. So just a normal candle, two pint glasses and

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a nail through the middle. We will come back to that. It will get more

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impressive. It looks beautiful for a dinner party as it is. We have to

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show you Dave, are very fit far man. If anything happens, you are in safe

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hands. -- our fit Fahrmann. Twitter is going to be more light tonight

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than it was last night. He has a hen do to go to have to woods.

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Congratulations to Dave, new grandchild born today. So, the thing

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about fire is that things do not burn when they are solid. Things

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have to vaporise or turn into a gas before they burn. So watch this, we

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blow out the candle, and the flame jumps from the top right down. We

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have a slow-mo of this as well. So you are literally just relighting

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the smoke? That's right. In fact, the smoke is vaporised candle wax.

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So that stream is vaporised candle wax, so you just bring the flame

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close to it. That is a good magic trick. Wow. The seesaw is in full

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flow now. This is a property of fire that we use in fire eating. The heat

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always goes upwards, so the top of the flame is the Hobbit and

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underneath, it is quite cool. So when we liked this, as the candle

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tips over, there is lots of the candle above the flame, so that

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burns and melts quickly and it all drips off. When that happens, the

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other side is heavier, so it tips over and the same thing happens on

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the other side. Sometimes it rolls all the way over when it gets going.

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And it will keep going until the candle runs out. Now, this last one

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shows two properties of fire. This is just a bit of water with a bit of

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colouring so that we can see, candle and a glass. The important for a

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flame are oxygen and a fuel. That is what fire is, a chemical reaction

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with those two combining. So when we put the glass over the top deck

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this, there is only a certain amount of oxygen inside and that is getting

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used up. So you watch the flames start to die down and then goes out.

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So it has used up the oxygen and that has filled with warm air and as

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the warm air cools down, it contracts and sucks up the water.

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Simple, but effective. That was amazing, thank you so much. I think

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Dave should come home with me,, because I want to try all of these.

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Just for the fire. Earlier, we asked for stuff you have been making with

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your grandparents today or in the past week. We have some lovely

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pictures. Robert made this goblin with his granny today. There is

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Bradley Wiggins. This is Paul, with grandad Burton, who in 1961 built

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this lambert a scooter together. This has come in from Liz, from

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Wimbledon. That is a nice picture from 1960. Any time for any more?

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This is grandad Ian and Ethan on fixing the light switch in

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Ashton-under-Lyne. That is all for this evening. A big thank you to

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Chris for your company. All the best with the books. The first two books

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in the flying for this series were released today. Tomorrow, we are

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joined by Rob Brydon and another sir, Sir Kenneth Branagh. See you

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then. And Dermot is here. Bye.

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