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Good evening and welcome to the One Show.

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I'm Matt Baker and Angela Scanlon is here fresh from the debut of Robot

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Wars. Razor, what the hero from the last series 13 years ago. In the pit

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this seconds. First episode gone, goodness me. But

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nice to have you here. Let's start with a question. What's better than

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a Knight out on the town? Two Knights out on the town!

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Particularly when they are as close as these two Knights!

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Here they are at the fair. Still at the fair! And here they are

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just chilling by the rubbish, having a little sit down. Here they are

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telling Santa if they have been naughty or nice. Let's find out what

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mood they are in tonight, Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart!

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They were fabulous! We went to see Father Christmas and they had a

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black Father Christmas for the black kids. That doesn't get much

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publicity, does it? It doesn't! And it was a much shorter queue.

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Delighted to get a mention on the One Show. Your friendship started in

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the '70s. Shh... You don't look a day over 30. Thank you. What

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situation did this all blossom in then? We were in the same company,

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the Royal Shakespeare company doing bits and bobs and we eyed each other

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from afar, Yorkshireman Lancashireman. We didn't become

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close friends until much later, did we? Much later. The main reason, I

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probably could have attempted a friendship, but I...

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LAUGHTER. I was so intimidated by my friend at that time. That's all gone

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now! You would have done better if you'd have been gay, you know.

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Listen, we've got some photos. You can say that about my entire career!

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We went on a little hunt and found some rather fetching pictures. Now,

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why are we seeing so much flesh? I can't believe that. This is like

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contouring before it became mainstream. I tell you, it doesn't

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change much and I know because I shared a dressing room with Patrick.

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Show us? That is me lying back. Visiting the witches as Macbeth.

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Your chest is also fabulous. I'm wearing drowse. The Letts boots are

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a bit risque. What was your workout regime like back then, Patrick? It

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was fairly extreme. It goes from role-to-role. I've just played a

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role where I needed to look gaunt and at death's door so I lost 20

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pounds and it worked. Then, you know, I now eat whatever I like, in

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the odd green room, glass of wine and potato chips. He is remarkable,

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he's as fit as he looks! Listen, you cannot be accused of blending into

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the background of those photographs unlike our dog in our favourite

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photo of the day. Oh, my goodness. Deb and Pete in Wigan, this is their

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dog. We are going to draw an outline, because for those who can't

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see it, there it is lying on their rug. It's phenomenal. I can look at

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that all day long, mesmerizing. If you have any pets that blend into

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the background at home, send us a photo and we'll see if we can spot

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it. Do you think the dog know it's vanished?

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LAUGHTER. I don't know. The mind boggles.

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Now, imagine life throwing so many problems at you that you feel your

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only option is to walk away from everything and everyone that you

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know. Kevin Duala's been to find out what it takes to make that decision

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and how it affects those left behind. Every two minutes, someone's

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reported missing in the UK. Most are found quickly, within 48-hours. But

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others, several hundred a year, disappear without a trace. I had to

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run there and then. It's very hard to switch off. You're living with a

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lot of mystery all the time. So what happens to people who... Just

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vanish? I want to know what it takes to walk out on your own life. It was

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like something in my mind had switched. Nothing else mattered.

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Instantly I thought, I've got to go. Shelly ran away after wrapping up

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?150,000 in credit card debt and losing her job. What makes somebody

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leave their family and home? The devil on my shoulder said you should

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leave, you should go. It was louder than any other voice, it was louder

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than Shelly stay around and fix things and what about your family,

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it was louder than anything else. She disappeared with just ?40 in her

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pocket. I went to the coach station and asked for the next ticket

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leaving and the lady said to me, where do you want to go and I said

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anywhere. She said the next coach going out is Birmingham and I said

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fine, I'll take that one then. When I arrived in Birmingham, I needed

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somewhere to stay, so I came out of the coach station and found a

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bed-and-breakfast straight across the road.

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Because I'd given up on my old life it was like I could be anyone, I

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could choose any identity, I could be anything I wanted to be. That

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night was probably the first night I had a proper sleep in about a year.

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Academics are now talking to people like Shelly to find out why and how

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they disappear. Many said they deliberately went off

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grid, avoiding anything that could trace them, mobiles, bank cards,

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CCTV, and contact with the authorities like the police. I

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didn't get in contact with my family after I left because it was just the

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fear, the sheer fear of having to face the enormity of what I'd done.

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Shelly lived on her wits for 18 months. I done a lot of things I

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wasn't proud of, I lied, cheated, stole. I conned men into thinking

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they were on a promise and I'd get them to take me out to dinner and

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would make my excuses and leave. It was anything just to be able to get

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food, money for the next day. Researchers hope their work will

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also help anxious friends and family left behind.

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Last month, Robbie Gibson disappeared. He'd been at the heart

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of a bitter four-year fight to save libraries in South London from

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closure. I think it's shameful. It's an essential part of our community

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hub. But after taking part in a ten-day sit-in, he'd been feeling

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low with some libraries facing the axe. Friend Joe Duggan says he

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changed. I think that had an impact on him. I bumped into him and asked

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him how he was. He used words like panicky and anxious and

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vulnerable-looking. Two days later he was missing. The community

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response has been absolutely amazing and has been really moving, I'd have

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to say. We have generated leafments quickly, Facebook went into

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meltdown. There was excitement because there was a belief that we'd

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find him. CCTV image of Robbie on the Isle of Wight the day he went

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missing. A keen walker, it had been a favourite holiday destination.

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We have been wanting to put a story on what's happened but in reality we

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genuinely don't know anything apart from the last confirmed CCTV footage

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so you are constantly having your mind in overdrive trying to live

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with all the possibilities. In Birmingham, Shelly became pregnant

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with her daughter, now 12. It was time to let her old life back in.

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After I had my daughter, I felt strong enough to be able to contact

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my family again. I called them and it took all my courage and I'm

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scared they'd have a go at me. My nan answered the phone and she was

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so happy. I was so shocked that she didn't hate me. She was just happy

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to know I was alive. No longer one of the disappeared, Shelly and her

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daughter have settled in Birmingham. For Joe, not knowing his friend's

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whereabouts is a constant worry. It's really almost impossible to get

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on with the rest of your life. You're living with that limbo. I

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really hope he knows how much people care about him.

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Shelly that we saw in the film, she's been part of that study into

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those that have gone missing, Kevin, so what are the main reasons that

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people feel the need to leave everything they know in life behind

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and go missing? We have been asking a Professor from the University of

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Glasgow and the ESRC who's conducted extensive research on this, we are

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talking about people who're feeling under pressure in an intolerable

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situation, it can range from anything from financial situations

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or whatever. However, the most prominent issue is mental health.

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80% will have mental health issues, whether diagnosed or undiagnosed, it

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can range from depression, anxiety or stress. Is there any way that

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friends or family might be able to identify somebody's triggers who

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might consider going missing? It's hard to point at one specific thing.

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If people are feeling under pressure, if they are behaving in an

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unusual way, it's really important to speak toe them. If their

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behaviour is changing, ask the right questions. A key significant factor

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is, if somebody's gone missing before, speak to them because 40%

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who go missing are likely to go missing again. Sit down, ask them

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about their journey, what happened, what was going on in their mind, why

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did they want to leave, they're the people that will significantly need

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the help. Is it down to family and friends then or is there kind of a

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support network set up so people don't leave again? Matt, it's more

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down to family and friends. The police's job is to find them. Once

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they've found them, they've done their job. If the police worked

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closely with the mental Health Services, that is the key. Once

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people go missing and then they return, if they work together, the

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local police are conducting interviews and pointing vulnerable

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people to the best help they need. If they work in conjunction together

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and help the missing people get the help they need, that is the key. If

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anyone out there has anyone information on Robbie, is there

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anywhere they should contact? The best thing to do is to go to the

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website, all of the information is on there for you. There is another

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person we are going to try and find? Yes, I would like to do a call out.

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We are looking for Rebecca Carr, 23 when she went missing, she's now 35,

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5'8", mousey brown hair, last seen at Gillingham train station in Kent

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on 25th November, 2002. You are overriding feeling from

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this, it's not just people desperately in need of something and

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that is why they're going but the family left behind as well, it's

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agony on both sides? Yes. Having spoken to Shelly in great detail

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when we did the film, she loved her nan to bits and unfortunately, her

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nan passed away, so she said it was a breath of fresh air, that she went

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home, met her nan and could say goodbye to her. What the family go

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through is terrible. Thanks ever so much indeed. If you have anyone on

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Robbie, Rebecca or have been affected by anything you have seen

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on here or need somebody to talk to, there's more information on the

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website. Before we talk about Ian and

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Patrick's new play, here is a look at another performance, one that

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helps prevent local voices being lost forever. Carrie has been to see

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a musical project that takes inspiration from the forgotten women

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of the factory floor. In the years after the Second World

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War, South Wales rang with the clamour of the male-dominated coal

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and steel industries. Meanwhile, an army of women were playing a role in

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the industrial recovery in Wales. The post-war years saw a consumer

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revolution when zips and watches, fizzy drinks, were being

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manufacturered in their thousands and all by women.

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For many, this taste of communal work was some of the best times of

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their lives. Marion Jones was 16 when she started working at a

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lingerie factory in Merthyr did fill in 1951. I was hemming the bottom of

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the slips. What was the atmosphere like? It was lovely. Everybody knew

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everyone. -- Merthyr Tydfil. It was different for the men, as heavy

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industry went into decline. The arrival of factories like Marion's

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saved many communities from going under, with one brand in particular

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providing work for thousands of women. Hoover have gone and found

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the washing machine that means the end of wash days. Wash day? Just

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forget it. In 1963, Marion switched to manufacturing white goods. Those

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were the good years of my life. One of the best jobs I've ever had.

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Today, although many of the factories are long gone, the voices

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of those who worked in them are not. We had to wear overalls and clocks

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because of all the broken glass -- clogs. They could hear us coming a

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mile. Two years ago, 200 women, including Marion, took part in an

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oral history project, providing their stories to Chronicle Wales's

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crucial workforce. These machines are going brrrrr...

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They decided to put me on to black bras. It wasn't easy to sew black on

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black, so there was a lot of mistakes. Magical, if I want to use

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a word. These memories have been

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incorporated into a new musical composition. Musician ingoo Thompson

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has been commissioned by the Cardiff Festival of Voice to create a unique

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arrangement using the women's recordings. When she heard the ash

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cave, she was captivated -- Inga. Can you play me some examples? I

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can. It is just lovely and the accent is

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beautiful. I've not long worked at the factory and I was immediately

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attracted to her because initially, the name of the factory because it

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is such a cool name. What is that? Her phone number? The numbers of the

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zip, the colours, white and black. Isn't it fascinating, even with the

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spoken voice, how you can feel someone's character from that? I

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think she would be proper strong, no-nonsense. Marion and Avril are

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coming to hear the work's Premier and it is time to take our seats. --

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premiere. It was heated to a super heat and it was forced through... It

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was like a shower head... You wonder how on earth she put all that

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together, to come out as good as it is. I never thought it had anything

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to do with history but the more I am listening to things now, I do think,

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oh, yes, you did play a little part in it. A lot of things I have

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forgotten but it has brought a lot of memories back, you know.

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# This is your song. # And thanks to the women's archive of

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Wales, these memories have been preserved for generations to come.

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One way of keeping the memory arrived. You were both watching that

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very intently. A similar background, your mother worked in a textile

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factory? She did, she worked in the mill all her life, during the war

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and afterwards, when I was a teenager. She loved it. She would

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not give it up, even though I think she was paid ?3 and five shillings a

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week for the work she did and the conditions were horrible. But she

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would not turn her back on her workmates and the place and the

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companionship she felt. It was a community. Hearing about the words

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and the dialect and everything, do you miss that part of your life?

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Patrick, they would be weaving, wouldn't they? Everyone and weaving,

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spinning cotton. I remember going past the biggest factor in Europe

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every day, walking to school. It took about 20 minutes to walk down

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one side of it. And you could hear it all going on inside, voices

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raised above the rattle of the machinery. I never went inside. And

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Harold Pinter's No Man's Land is what you are here to chat about and

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the language and the use of language and how elegant and lyrical it

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almost is on is that the massive part of the attraction? It is. He's

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a great master of words and a wonderful wordsmith. He began his

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life writing reviews, sketches to be done in variety shows. You can tell

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because he has an eye for a gag. A little routine that we love doing

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all that stuff, as well as the serious stuff. Patrick I was reading

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that this play has been a real passion of yours since you first saw

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it in 19... 75. We both saw it, not together, not at the same time

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because we did not know one another then, I think. I went on a Monday

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night. I was so dazzled by the performances but also by the script,

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the text. Much of which I could not fully understand. So I bought a

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ticket for the next night and then for the birthday as well! I saw it

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three times. -- for the Thursday. I would have gone on a Saturday night

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but I could not afford it. So it affected you straightaway? I had

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been in two Harold Pinter plays already when I saw it but there was

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something about this play, the fact that they are very clever people who

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are speaking the language, it is actually, I think one of his plays

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that comes closest to Tom Stoppard's work in that dextrous, brilliant use

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of language. It is very complex. Even the chatter between you, but it

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does not seem like you are likely to tribute other up at any point or do

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you, just for kicks? We have very long speeches so we have do play,

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not doing the long speeches ourselves but sitting back and

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listening to the other one. It's a pain but you have to be so alert

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when you are listening and Patrick is a brilliant listener. Every so

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often, his eyes glanced up at me and there the whole world going on

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inside, unspoken. That is part of the fun of the play. But how could

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you recommend this play? It's one of the great plays of the last

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centuries and one of the great base for two actors of the same age.

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There aren't many like that. People ask why we are doing it again having

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done it in New York? No one has written anything for us since!

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LAUGHTER We are back with the old material.

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From Broadway, you are going on tour, starting in Sheffield... Next

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week. You are so well known you could do the West End but it is

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really important for you. This man will tell you why taking a show into

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the regions and the provinces is so important. Go! In the 16th century

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when young William Shakespeare was living in Stratford, how did he get

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to know anything about the theatre? Because the actors would tour. And

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he saw them and he fell another with the double stop how did you fall in

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the theatre? Same as me, I saw the actors, they arrived, they were in

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the weekly company and they toured to Manchester and Liverpool, big

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actors of my youth. I was so grateful to them and I sort of

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expected that that is what actors did, rogues and vagabonds. So it is

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with a joyful heart that we are off to... Sheffield the start!

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Newcastle. Then Cardiff and London. Lovely, but it is not just age, you

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are both very busy, you are going to be playing a clock soon as Jim yes,

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Cogsworth in Beauty And The Beast. Wonderful movie. Can you tell the

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time? I can't answer that but I have written one," my name is Cogsworth

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and I'm a clock, tick-tock... " but it did not get into the film. We

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have do ask why we'll -- while we are on the movies... Wolverine. I

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have reprised my role. I don't understand it, or is it about

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Professor X that he has to appear in every subsequent film? We wanted to

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give you the opportunity. It was a sensible answer. I would have given

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anything to have walked on in Lord of the rings! But not call, not an

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e-mail, nothing! Given that into Gestede you should not do Star Trek,

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I think his career advice is best kept to himself. -- given that Ian

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suggested you should not do. I would have been a dreadful agent. No Man's

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Land begins its UK tour next Wednesday in Sheffield. I'm no! And

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then it goes to the Wyndham 's Theatre which is where you both saw

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it in London before on the 8th of September.

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Time to talk to housemate and girlfriends. Asda has been to

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Southampton to see if she can get an answer about one of your tricky

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problems. This should be interesting. This week's dilemma

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comes from Lucy in London who says, "My housemate has a new girlfriend

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who he always has round the house but I don't like. How do I confront

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this issue?" Good question. Let's see what the people of Southampton

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have to say. What does she do? It depends how long they have been

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together. If it is like a month, you could be like, "We are good flatmate

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and I don't like this girl friend of yours, maybe have a think about it".

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Just tell him not to bring her over any more. I'm him, "Hello community

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is though you have something on your mind?" Either she goes and you goes.

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Whoever was in the flat first, may be the best thing to do is for the

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other one to move out. I don't want you to tell me that but it's very

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kind. It's a fantastic game, it gets you talking to people. Know,

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different question. What is the question? Hello, both, this is the

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dilemma. If you don't say it as it is, how is he going to know and how

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are you going to work around it? It will just be awkward at all time.

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Definitely but always stay polite because you never know when you

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might see her again. And be nice because you won't come off like a

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bad person. I've always wanted to do that, sorry! It's fine because you

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appreciate the flatmate and you want to learn to get on with people that

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you did not originally like. Have you ever had a flatmate? Yes. Was it

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annoying? Not really but I did fall out in the end. What about? My

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boyfriend. She did not think much of him but I've now been married to

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infinitely 40 years so she was wrong. She was totally wrong. You

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have do have valid reasons for not wanting a person coming in. That's

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the thing, and if the valid reason is that you don't get on... You need

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to back off and allow your friend to have their friend. It is supposed to

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be tolerant but it is only when it starts to impede on your life

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significantly. Do you live together? Yes. Do you get an all right? Yes.

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Does he have any bad habits? You just get on my nerves, don't you? I

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hope that makes light of it. As we have got you both here, we thought

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we would play a little game, asking a few questions about what using

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about each other or who the question may refer to. We have a paddle each

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and all you have to do it and it around. We did this with Rod Stewart

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and his wife and it worked ready well. They are still married? Yes,

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there is hope! The tension! Who the funniest? Who is the snappiest

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dresser? Who is the most punctual when you

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meet up? Who secretly enjoys being a knight

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the most. A knight of old? View know what I mean. Who most enjoys being

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served? I don't know. Who's most likely to lose the knighthood for

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bad behaviour? I suspect both of you together. Who generally makes the

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most demands. Who makes the best looking woman? My

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word! Never mind. We will finish on that. Extraordinary. Look at you...

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From those lovely photos to the once you have been sending into night of

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your camouflaged pets. Go one, Angela, start us off with this one

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which is beautiful. I think it's a cat. Read the back. This is Nicky's,

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sorry, it is a dog, not a cat, in Dorset, quite feline. Desmond from

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Manchester on his favourite throw. This was sent from Cronje of her

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dog. And we have to say goodbye now. A big bangs to you, Angela. I will

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be back tomorrow with duathlete who famously clashed in the 1984

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Olympics, Zola Budd and Mary Decker. We will leave you with Lulu on her

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blanket. There we are.

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