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Hello and welcome to a very special That's Life episode of The One Show,

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with Alex Jones. Matt Baker, and what would a That's Life special be

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without...Esther Rantzen! # That's Life. APPLAUSE. I am very grateful

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to Matt and Alex for allowing me to turn the clock back 40 years and

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celebrate the moment we launched a consumer programme that was to grow

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and grow. And, yes, there was a dog that could say sausages. Tell us

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what do you have on a Thursday? What? Sausages! And who can forget,

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although I would like to, the rudely shaped vegetables that became a

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regular feature of That's Life? Not my fault, it was the viewers. You've

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been sending more in and we will be having a look later tonight. And on

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That's Life we also went out on the streets to ask the public questions

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like: What sound effect can you make with your mouth? Can you tell the

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difference between brandy and whisky? Should Page three be banned?

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Tonight, I've returned to see if things have changed. That's Life

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also made a real difference to the world around us. We demanded

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compulsory seat belts, we highlighted the need for organ

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transplants, and we campaigned for playground safety. It's difficult to

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believe now that children's playgrounds were built out of

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concrete and tarmac before we intervened. In 1986, In response to

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a survey on That's Life into bullying and abuse of children,

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Esther founded Childline. Today, she has launched a brand new helpline

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called The Silver Line. It is a free, confidential 24 hour line that

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offers information, friendship and advice for older people. The number

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is 0800 470 80 90. The Silver Line commissioned a poll

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about the stigma of loneliness and asked some special questions for The

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One Show. Tony Livesey has the results. I get lonely sometimes, and

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I think about things. I'd didn't get lonely until this year because my

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partner had died. Sometimes you want to get out of the four walls,

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because it is your prison. There are many subjects people don't like to

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talk about, how much money the error -- they are, politics or religion.

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Now there is another taboo we can add to it. We can confirm that a

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survey has told us that if lonely -- older people are lonely, they often

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suffer in silence. I have come to Lancashire to help --

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to this centre which helps combat loneliness in Lytham Saint Anne

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Andrews, where 25% of the population over 65. -- Lytham Saint Anne 's.

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Many of the members here have talked to me about their lives and feeling

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lonely. Catherine O'Brien is in her 70s and was divorced 40 years ago

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and brought up her son and daughter on her own. She is in regular

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contact with her family and very active, but lately she has felt

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pangs of loneliness. There have been waves of loneliness, sitting and

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thinking that I am on my own with nobody to talk to. I do look forward

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to going out to the shops, just that contact. It is people passing away,

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and suddenly you feel very much on your own and lonely. Have you ever

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said that word beginning with L to your family? Macri I know, I don't

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want them to feel sorry for me -- -- I don't want them to feel sorry for

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me. I don't think it is anything to bother them with. According to the

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survey, one in seven older people say they often feel lonely. I just

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feel lost. I've never come across it before. It's a to me. Most of them

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say it is difficult to admit to other people. You don't want to tell

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them that you're lonely, because that would make them feel guilty,

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wouldn't it? More than half of those who said they often felt lonely said

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they'd never discussed these feelings with their families and the

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most common reason they gave as they did not want to be a burden. They

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have their own lives to lead. I've had my life. They are looking after

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their families now. Christine is in her late 60s and has three grown-up

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children. She has been widowed twice and lost her second husband last

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year. How often do you feel lonely? I would say every day when the

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curtains are drawn and I am on my own in the house. This is the first

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time I've actually suffered from true loneliness. I didn't really

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understand what it was. Your children will see this on

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television. How will they react to it? They will probably feel I should

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have said to any one of them and that I need them and they would

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come. I don't want to be much of an interference in their lives. Maria

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is Christine's only daughter and sees her mother every day, but it

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turns out that it is not the days that are the problem. She told me

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some time ago that although the daytimes are full, the evenings seem

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like a long drawn-out thing. I showed Maria what Christine told the

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camera to see if she knew how lonely her mother felt. How often do you

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feel alone? I would say every day. When the curtains are drawn. I found

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that pretty devastating, that she still feels lonely every single day.

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I feel like I want to do something about it, and I feel helpless,

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because I don't know how. What mum needs his company. Or something to

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stop feeling lonely. I did the same with Chris O'Brien, Cathy's, he had

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also wondered if loneliness a problem with his mum. She would get

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lonely now and again, she told me, and that was a surprise, because the

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last thing she would say to me and my sister is something that would

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upset us. There have been waves of it. Then you suddenly feel very on

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your own and lonely. I totally relate to the feeling, and that is

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the only woman who could bring me to tears, and seeing her upset is the

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worst thing I can see in my life. Afterwards, both families were glad

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that they had opened up. There is an understanding that we are on our

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own, and we should be talking and say what bothers us. He is at the

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other end of the telephone. Just pick up the telephone and ask what

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is happening. You can read right through me though, that is the

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trouble. So, to recap on those survey results, one in seven older

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people often feel lonely and more than half of those don't want to

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admit it to their family, and it's hard to know who to feel sorry for,

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the parents, the children, it's a no-win position. YELLOW -- it shows

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how opening up and talking to make a world of difference. It's very

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difficult to talk to your own children about it because you don't

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want them to feel guilty, which is why the new helpline is going to be

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open day and night. As you heard, the evenings are particularly

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difficult, and sometimes people say that Sunday is hard. We want to be

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there for them on Christmas Day. Last Christmas, during the pilot, I

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spoke to people who were not talking to anyone else, not only on

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Christmas Day, but throughout the Christmas period. It's really

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important that if people get these pangs, they try and bring us,

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because we have the two services, one is the helpline which is

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therefore you all the time, and the other is Silver Line Friends who

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will make book calls and establish a real relationship and get to know

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them over a period of time. Those are volunteers, and we will need

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those volunteers, people who can join us and we will need those

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volunteers, people who can join a Sunbeam train -- trained as Silver

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Line friends. There are charities that can help in this area anyway,

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so how does Silver Line differ? We have learned so much already. They

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have supported us and helped us and we have seen the way they help

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people. The RBS have contact -- contact lines. There are lots of

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charities. The fact is that people don't necessarily know how to

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contact them. As far as I know, none of these charities, apart from the

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Samaritans are there 24 hours per day. And the night-time, we had a

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lady in her 80s, ringing us at 3am. She is not alone, and her partner

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has Alzheimer's disease, and she feels desperately lonely. She said I

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am not bad enough for the Samaritans, I don't want to drink my

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daughter, but it's not a crisis, but I must talk to someone about how I

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feel. There is bound to be an increase in the number of phone

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calls this evening, so do be patient, but who can cause expect on

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the other end of the line? We have the staff working on the helpline,

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and when things calmed down a little, they haven't got a call

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handling time, they've been asked to talk as long as people need them

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too. What we found is that nine out of ten of the lonely people, 2.5

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million older people in the country, they think that the best way to help

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is a good chat on the telephone, and one in four of them never get a good

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chat on the telephone, so that is what we will provide. And there is a

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ring back service, and it's kind of a relationship which is wonderful. A

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lovely man said that when he put the telephone down he feels like he

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belongs to the human race. We have to think about what that means the

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rest of the time. Why should older people not feel like members of the

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human race? We have to think about that as well. So, what a day. Silver

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Line is now open. Here is the number again.

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It is open day and night, every day of the year, and there is more

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information about it on our website. There are 60 people receiving calls

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at the moment and it will be busy, so keep trying. Back to That's Life.

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If you want an example of what it meant to its viewers, we have got a

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letter that came into this week from Forbes. He says: -- John Forbes.

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You might recall a campaign to have all elevator is fitted with internal

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doors after our daughter had her arm severed on holiday. We are glad to

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say that they did take notice, and Sarah now has a full-time job, a

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six-year-old son called Martin and is a capable swimmer and has walked

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to the top of the Sydney Harbour Bridge and works on projects for

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amputees in action. We would probably never get to know who --

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what had happened to those who were in your programme, so here is the

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chance, with very kind regards. You kept that from me, and that is

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fantastic news. How lovely them to write and tell us. That is

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fantastic. Here is more of the campaigning work by Esther and 13.

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-- her team. Right from the beginning, Esther wanted to bring

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about change and make people listen. Doctor John Maynard prompted

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That's Life into action when a woman broke suddenly in a traffic jam and

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killed her 18-month-old son who was standing behind her. The impact

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wholesome straight through the windscreen. That's Life made it

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compulsory for cars to be fitted with a rear seat belt, with the

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backing of Peter Bottomley, the then transport Minister. Don't rely on us

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what is good for you on your chant -- children and grandchildren. As

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the child restraint campaigns show, people are doing it. It worked,

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three years later that law was changed. When Carol's son was

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injured in the playground, she got in touch as well. That's life began

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to campaign for safe surfaces to be introduced in playgrounds. Here we

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have one of the new safe tiles and I will drop it. From the same height,

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onto concrete. That worked as well. 70% of the playgrounds have now been

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covered with the safe surfaces. But the one campaign no viewer could

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forget about was the little boy who desperately needed a new liver, he

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was two years old, and his name was Ben Hardwick. Then is two years old

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and will die in the next few years. He has a liver disease. The hospital

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told me he would not live for very long, so we knew he would have a

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short life. I said, why can't he have a transplant question mark and

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it was because there was no donors. We needed to change public opinion,

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so who better to change it than Esther Rantzen? The transplant was

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successfully carried out, making him the youngest person in the UK to

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receive this kind of treatment. Watching the appeal unfold from this

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game -- say site -- a bed in the same hospital was Matthew Whitaker

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who was born with the same life-threatening condition. I

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possibly might have got a transfer -- transplant, but without the help

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and publicity that That's Life brought, I might not have received

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it in time. It really was the power of television. We went of having no

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chance of our son surviving to the offer of a donor. Despite the

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success of the programme increasing the number of donors, the operation

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did not work and he died 14 months after the start of the campaign. I

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did it to save Ben's life, but the fact that so many children's lives

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have been saved is a great feeling. It is very comforting. When the

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final episode of That's Life was broadcast, a number of children who

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have had successful transplants were invited to the studio. In these

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children here tonight, Ben's memory does live on indeed. As does the

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legacy of That's Life will stop what was it, consumer show?

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Entertainment? For sure. And the influence of its campaign can still

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be felt today. Wow, what an impact. And I know that

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Ben and his mother, Deborah, their story, that made a real connection.

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Yes, for two reasons, then was the same age as my son Joshua, and the

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other was the courage of her, only 22 when she made that plea, and all

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of the campaigns owed something to the courage and altruism of the

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viewers who wrote and told us about them. Tonight the studio is packed

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with That's Life cast and crew, celebrating its 40th anniversary.

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Every doorway open, somebody with a remarkable story. They are the

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people. You would dress up in the most stupid of outfits. And send

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them out to do stuff like this. UN should be -- Iwan is with some of

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them in the green room. Michael, what did you do on the show and what

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have you brought tonight? I presented for three years and I have

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brought these, which were individually designed for each

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show. They were hand-painted before? Yes, on the Sunday itself.

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Maybe I had a little more hair. Julia, what did you do? I was

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Esther's PA, and this was a hat which was awarded to me. Can you put

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it on just for tonight? Catherine, what have you brought? In 1981, Mr

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did a survey of women who gave birth in the country, and this book came

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out of it which was ground-breaking because it said clearly that all

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women didn't necessarily want a natural birth, some wanted pain

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relief and whatever, and the important thing was that people

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involved in maternity care should listen to women and let them have a

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say in the birth they have. So you are very proud to be associated with

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the programme? Very proud. I am running out of lead, Esther, back to

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you. Actually, your licenses are not

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paying for that disgraceful jumper that you see going on! Tonight the

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wonderful news is that Matt is working on a tribute to the That's

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Life artist, especially for this anniversary. What incredible talent,

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that is wonderful. I just hope you don't slap me! There is no reference

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to teeth, I hope. One of the highlights for me was when I walked

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the streets in nothing but a pair of knickers and a microphone. I am

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talking about the box pops, when I went out to ask questions, and the

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temptation to do it again was too much so this is what happened when I

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went out with the One Show crew in tow. Do some yodelling.

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Have a drink and then tell me if it is whiskey or brandy. Whiskey.

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Brandy. You're joking? I'm not. My colleagues are saying it is whiskey.

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Have another six. OK. Cheers, everybody! Should this be banned?

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Yes, women are more than just a pair of boobs, at least most of us R. I

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took papers out onto the street 20 years ago. If I show you something,

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will you tell me if you like it or not. It depends what it is. I like

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it quite a lot, to be honest. Would you mind blowing up a balloon? Ah!

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Fantastic! This is a masterclass. He wants to tie a knot in it, I mean

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the balloon! I feel as if I have spent my whole life here. You dirty

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monkey! It was on this very corner, where I was handing out something.

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Up came the Black Mariah, and not having been arrested before I got in

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the driver's side and the police got me into the back.

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And you have got the glasses of whiskey and brandy. Don't worry, you

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are not paying for this either. You run the risk of being arrested,

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drinking on live television. Tonight, Matt and Alex have the task

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of reading out your letters, so let's have some from One Show

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viewers, starting with Victoria Kothe back from a trip to China. Is

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this a strange translation, or could it really be on the menu? Roasted

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urinating fish, spicy urinating fish. Go there and take your

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umbrella. I wouldn't eat them, I don't like spicy food. Martin

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writes... I saw this in Spain... Small bear and big bear. We also

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loved the unusual spellings you sent in each week, it seems it has not

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changed. Nicky writes in to tell us about this... David Bouley's primary

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school, don't you know - Burnt Ash Primary. Let's have a look at that

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school gate. No letter section would be complete

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without the unusually shaped vegetables. They became a regular

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feature. People can't still be growing them, can they? My first

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attempt at growing carrots, still traumatised. Wait for it... Perhaps

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you also remember the musical instrument made out of a cow's

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milking machine. Technical term for that is a cow cluster, I am told. We

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loved your musical inventions, just as much as you enjoyed playing

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them. Simeon would writes... Nothing would you like me more than to play

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the theme tune of that fabulous show, That's Life. It was fabulous,

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but are you any good? I played for Alex Jones. She was queueing for a

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portaloo earlier this year, she was amazed. I play the NHS walking

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stick. Let's hear Simeon playing the That's Life theme tune on his NHS

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walking stick. we have Adrian Mills here, and Gavin

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Campbell as well. Let's wind back the clock to when you sent in the

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CV. You wrote on it that you were brilliant at accents. I thought if

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anybody is going to do an accent on this programme of any sort, it has

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to be me, because I am good. Let's see how good you are with your

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Spanish. I do my best. You might foam them and tell them they don't

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have to come to Madrid, they can get the special discount! The most

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worrying thing about that clip is the thickness of the hair.

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And you are very good with the sword, let's have a look at you in

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action. Just very quickly, what was that

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about? The family had a house in Hertfordshire which have a beautiful

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traditional Japanese garden, and they had a little five-year-old boy

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who was a really keen martial arts expert. They said he was really good

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and the challenge was to give him a fight. I was told to be very, very

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careful with him because he was very small and delicate. He beat the...

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Out of me. We will leave it there! The public were always the stars,

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but Giles, you would have made a wonderful member of the That's Life

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team. Shall I try the traditional way? And finally...? Finally, an odd

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ode I have written in Cyril's memory. The name was Cyril. The look

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was odd, the odes were even odder. Esther and Cyril. At Esther's side

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he sat, benign, as genial comic fodder. As Esther did unsheeth her

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teeth, from Aberdeen to Harrow. Cyril with marrow? Cyril just waited

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to applaud the next mishapen marrow! I want to thank everyone for coming

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to celebrate our 40th anniversary of That's Life, and remember that the

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The Silver Line helpline is open now and you can call free from a

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landline on 0800 4 70 80 90. All of the details are on the One Show

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website. Now, Charlie Brighton was the surviving member of the original

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That's Life brass band. It had a unique sound and he has found some

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new bandmates to play us out now one last time. It will be wonderful.

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We're here tomorrow with Anne Reid when we'll be exclusively revealing

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the nominees for Sports Personality of the Year. See you at 7pm.

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Goodbye!

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