29/01/2014 The One Show

Hill is next? Can I have three portions of chips, please? One

small, one medium and one large. Coming right up. Just a battered

sausage, please. Do you have pickles? He is standing right behind

you. Did evening, Eric. -- good evening.

Hello, welcome to the Wednesday one show. It is just as well we have the

chip van because we have a lot of mouths to feed. We have twins road

testing a high fat and high sugar diet. Eric Pickles is here. We will

be asking why we have so many bins cluttering up our front gardens. And

we have Ramona, Daniel, Tyger, and Outnumbered writer Andy Hamilton. It

is good to see you all. There is another true sitcom legend, Lesley

Joseph. Are you all right on the end, Andy? I will probably fall off

the end for comedy purposes. Outnumbered, the family have grown

up. Have they been in to see you about a pay rise? A pay rise? Can we

move on? They do it for the love of it. The reason we ask is that they

say the squeeze on wages will ease in 2014 as more than half of UK

businesses plan to increase pay. According to a survey, 57% said they

would lift wages and the coming months could be a good time to ask

for a pay rise. What is the best way to do it? We sent Angellica Bell and

Claude Littner to hand out free advice. Would you like a pay rise? I

would like a pay rise, but they are not easy to get. Bosses will think

of reasons not to give you a pay rise. Fortunately, we have one on

our side, Claude Littner, the right-hand man of Lord sugar. Come

and get some free advice on how to get a pay rise. He will offer advice

to workers on how they can get a pay rise. Is it easy to ask for a pay

rise? It depends on your personality. I would not. They said

that to get one I had to complete five things. I hit my targets and

they gave me a pay rise. Oliver works in retail and does not know if

he is eligible for a pay rise. What is holding you back? My generation

have no idea how to approach the situation. You are lucky because you

know your area manager and have a relationship. When he next passes by

you could ask for a chat. You are exploring if there is an opportunity

for a pay rise. You must not put him under pressure saying if you do not

give an increase I am. I worry about coming across as greedy. Perhaps you

are a star performer. Perhaps you have more reasons to approach. At

least you opened the door to a possible discussion. Claire is a

legal PA but did not have the confidence to ask for an increase. I

was a PA to seven years and then I had a baby. You do not need to be

concerned about him taking it badly. It is not unreasonable. Have

a go. Claude has been advising for a couple of hours. He has been helping

the working public of Watford get advice, but it is time he gave me

some help. What are your top tips about asking for a pay rise? The

first thing is to prepare carefully. You will find you will be

nervous and might omit important points. Have your points available

so you know what you are hitting him with. Picking the right time, in

terms of the economic environment and your boss's state of mind. If he

had a rough patch, it is probably not a good time. It is important to

have a just cause. Do not go in if you do not have a valid reason. It

is important to hit the right points to make your case. It might make you

feel awkward, but if you believe you deserve a pay rise and you have

thought carefully about approaching your boss, you have nothing to

lose. If you do not ask, you do not get.

The lovely side to Claude Littner. He was horrible to you. He is a nice

person really. When you ask for a pay rise, Lesley Joseph, do you go

into Dorian mode. She does not doom money. If she cannot earn it, she

marries it. As far as I am concerned actors know there are hundreds of

others waiting to take their jobs and sometimes it is hard to ask for

a rise. Yet the agent to do it. Somebody not allowed to ask for a

pay rise is the Minister for bins. Eric Pickles. Have you doubted the

value of having multiple bins outside your house?

For some people, be cycling is complicated with separate containers

the glass, paper, plastic, even food waste. In other areas, it is a

simple matter of putting everything in the one bin. In Bexley, it means

putting rubbish into five separate bins. We have a glass box. Garden

rubbish. There might be too many. I do not mind doing it. Why do some

councils make it complicated? Is there any advantage in sorting

rubbish into the right bins? If there is, why do we not all have to

do it? I am on a mission to find the facts from the fiction. Let's take

time to talk rubbish. The people who run this place say their machines

are just as good at sorting rubbish as when we do it ourselves and that

everybody should use one recycling bin. What you receive has not been

sorted into separate boxes, it came in one recycling bin? It comes in

one bin and it comes to our facility and we separated out into separate

streams that go off to the reprocessing is to be used again to

make new products. Materials are separated using optical detectors,

magnets, and filters. What are these? These are human beings, not a

machine. This is the initial quality control. Some people by mistake put

the wrong thing in the recycling and we have to be able to take it out at

this stage in case it damages the machine. It is not cheap. This cost

around ?30 million. This is an example of the finished product,

going out to be used as packaging. It is as good as any thing that

would come from a multiple bin system. Not every council has access

to a facility as good as this. The European Union wants homes and

businesses to separate free cycling by next year, where possible. This

person buys plastic bottles from sorting facilities and makes them

into chips and flakes to sell back to the bottling industry. He

believes the best way to collect recycling is having multiple world

-- bins. If you have a separate box of plastics, it gets contaminated

and the wrong things go inside, but you think it is a better system?

Yes, at every point you will avoid contamination, the better. You have

to perform a lot of sorting to get to the plastic bottles I want to

buy. He wants his bottles to be high quality and will pay more to get

that. For a good-quality bail I would expect to pay ?150 per tonne.

Of that low quality bail, 50% of what is in there can be used by me.

But for a good-quality bell, where 95% or more of the content is good

mastic bottles, I would pay up to ?400. It is more than double the

money to do it properly? UK market for this is worth ?8 billion and it

is worth doing properly. The environmental services Association

represents companies that pick up rubbish and sort it for recycling.

Most people are happy to recycle, but why in some areas do you have

many recycling bins? If the local authority wants a number, or just

two, we will give it to them. Whichever system has the same end

result? We are wasting our time? No. When it is collected separately, it

will be cleaner. If you want the cleanest, you will have to pay.

Recycling is traded all over the world. We are not waste management

any more we are the resource management. We are trying to extract

value. It seems that the debate is more about money than quality. With

the right investments, a machine can sort as well as the householder. If

we had one bin, the front garden would be tidier.

The Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government,

Eric Pickles, MP, joins us now. You should include the bins. The idea

was mentioned in the film, why bother separating items because a

machine can do it better? I have seen good works in Bournemouth. The

person on the film talked about getting his bottles clean, you would

be surprised, even though it has been mingled, how clean and separate

they are. I think recycling should be something that is easy. Somebody

have -- has one bin, others have two. It becomes an obsession for

some people. If you put the yoghurt pot in the wrong place... As Alex

said, it is about money. From the community point of view, what is the

point of doing it? What are the benefits? You can offer people a

better deal. Windsor and Maidenhead offer points to people for

recycling. Points mean prizes. You could end up with a token from Marks

Spencer, get yourself a free Coffey. It should be about

encouraging rather than fining people. It is big business. A few

years ago, that would have gone into landfill. You can now take plastics,

glass, paper, it has value. You can put that back into the community and

deliver a better service. Do you think we should separate them? You

said people were obsessed. Do you think we can send it in one bag and

the machine can do it? If you have something like that at the end and

there is a growing number of these plants, and if your council has a

contract with them, one is enough. If you do not have that, separation

is sensible. My council has a weekly collection but we have something

separate for recycling because it does not have the possibility of

going somewhere like that. Hopefully, in the long term, all

councils can do that. Somebody has to pay for that machine at ?30

million. It is a lot of money. They are Private companies. They are

doing it because they will make money out of it. If people can make

money out of rubbish, it becomes a lot easier. Many people would say if

we go to the hassle of separating these items and recycle, collections

could be less frequent. Where do you stand? There are some things in life

that are tricky smelly and the thought of them being around for a

couple of weeks would be dreadful. Wales are thinking of free weekly

collections, a monthly collection. Imagine a nappy hanging around.

Falkirk Council I think they are going to three weeks in April. Think

about the summer and how not it gets. You said you would be

collecting general waste weekly and recycled waste, weekly, at no extra

cost. How can that be? There are tonnes of mis-kicking around about

how much it costs. People saying fortnightly collection is the

future. The more recycling you do, the more pure you are. I am saying

that all we want is to encourage people to do this. We have been

producing some schemes. We have gone to 41 different authorities to

increase recycling through weekly collections and it is working. OK.

We know you are keen recycler. I am very pro-recycling. Wheelie bins are

always bigger than I am and I can't get inside them to clean them out.

We have heard what you think that what the minister thinks, but what

do you think at home? How frequently should your general waste be

collected? Not recycled waste, general landfill waste. You can sign

in and vote online for free. You'll also find the terms and conditions.

Thank you. You had to cancel appointments to be here and you are

going to the House of Commons now. We are not fair until eight o'clock

so if everybody tunes in, they can see the result of the vote. -- we

are not off air. Now, it Russian security forces will

be on the highest alert in Sochi for the Olympics. But 50 years ago,

there was a top-secret mission in a London suburb. In 1960, Britain was

in the middle of the Cold War paranoia. The nuclear arms race was

gathering pace. Espionage was rife. On an unsuspecting W. London St, the

KGB were lurking. As the residence of this street wash their cars and

mowed lawns, one friendly couple had a very different pastime, it

transpired. Peter and Helen moved in here in 1954. Peter was an antiques

book-seller and Helen was a housewife. This author and TV

presenter grew up in the area and remembers them. This was boring

suburban England in the mid 50s and suddenly this exotic creature

arrived. Helen. Brash, noisy, unlike anyone we had ever seen. When she

first moved in, we thought she was amazingly friendly. She made friends

with those neighbours and the people next door and particularly with my

mother. Peter was the complete antithesis. Quiet, bookish,

scholarly. My parents often wondered how that relationship worked because

they seemed so different. It turned out there was more to the

relationship than met the eye. 140 miles away in Portland on the Dorset

coast, UK's first nuclear submarine was being developed. MI5 had

discovered details of this top-secret project were being leaked

to Moscow. But how? An intelligence operation revealed the trail led

back to Peter and Helen. The surveillance found that two Portland

employees were regularly meeting the trip to London to meet a man at

different locations. That man was then tracked coming to this Ruislip

Street. A static observation post was set up by MI5 in Gay's

parents's house. One day MI5 turned up. They had a photograph. They

asked if we had seen this man and we hadn't. Our kitchen had a good view

of their front door. They both looked over and they saw the front

door open and the man in the photograph hurried up the footpath

and left. The man was an illegal Russian posing as a jukebox

salesman. He was the go-between trading secrets between Portland and

Helen and Peter. How long were MI5 in your house? Two months. They were

women. They thought it might arouse suspicions if men were turning up

during the day at my mother's front door during the week. They used to

watch until it got dark. One of them left the kitchen in such a hurry

that she left her handbag on the floor. Helen walked in and saw the

handbag. My mother blamed it on me and slung it in the cupboard but it

was stressful for my mother. After months of watching the man come and

go, MI5 made their move. Niall is an espionage expert. How were they

busted? Special branch sent round four offices and they posed as

normal police officers investigating a spate of burglaries in the area.

They went in and Helen realised it was quite serious, so she asked to

stoke the boiler. One of the special branch offices rumbled this and

grabbed her handbag and found the microdots inside it. Is the grid

means of communication? Exactly. -- their secret means of communication?

They also found this in the basement. At the time it contained a

high-powered wire -- wireless and the capability to transmit all the

way to Russia. They found several $20 bills as well. My brother came

home and saw that all the lights were on and the door was open and my

parents told them what they knew. The spies were uncovered

subsequently and each given 20 years. The group became known as the

Portland spy ring, one of the last true spy rings to be exposed in

Britain. This area is not likely to feature in any James Bond movies,

but when the couple were marched from number 4550 years ago, there

was certainly a sense of drama on this quiet suburban street. -- from

number 45 50 years ago. The things that go on in London!

Outnumbered is shot in Wandsworth, isn't it? Yes. We thought about

doing a Russian spy episode but that would strain credibility! If it

comes back for another series, maybe! The next series starts

tonight at nine o'clock on BBC One. What is going on in the madhouse?

You are the brains behind it, Andy. I am only half of the brains. They

are bigger and older and that throws up for the parents much more

complicated and ambiguous parenting challenges. You no longer have the

option of just picking them up and carrying them to their room. Unless

you want triple hernia! It is about the more complicated problems of

parenting once the children approach adult hood. Do you get bored of

people telling you you have grown? Do you mind? It is quite good. You

lose the little boy image. People realise that. Let's have a look at

tonight's episode. It is you and your mother when she is being

motherly and not very supportive, to be fair. I need to try out my piece

for my audition. I thought I would go with Whitney Houston. Right. She

sings quite high. Really? Yes, quite a few top notes. Which I am sure you

can hit. I will be in the shed if anybody wants me. Great! Tyger, how

much say do you have in how much your characters develop since the

last time we saw you two years ago? There has always been a large

quantity of ourselves in the characters and also because of the

improvisation aspect. Before we film, we always have a meeting with

Andy and Guy, and we always talk about the things we are really up to

in our lives, while they are writing. I think that gives them

some inspiration to work their comedy magic. When you were

younger, the whole thing was geared around improvisation and you did not

know what the children would come up with. It must have evolved quite a

bit with learning scripts and everything. There is always a

script. Can I make that perfectly clear? We get paid to write! There

were always these holes, if you like, where we would always let the

kids run riot and turn it into scenes. Now they still don't learn

the lines in the conventional sense. They don't go home the night before

with them. We give them a few minutes before we do the scene. They

are all very fast, so we show them the scene, and then we clock it and

learn it in about three minutes. Then we go on set and we do it. It

has evolved. Kids this age don't go off on the mad lateral flights of

fantasy that five-year-olds do. You are laughing at this. I would go on

set and they would ask if I had seen the script. No. I have to learn it

quickly and scan the page. You are five when you started, Ramona and

you have changed since then. Here are your highlights. Is your mother

or father in? My father is on the toilet. I don't want you to sleep in

my room but as you are, here is a list of rules. I am not very likely

to wet the bed. My auntie did. A woman can be any size or shape she

wants. What about a hexagon? I said get dressed. She is horrible and she

gets obsessed with apostrophes but they just slow you down. And

everyone gets them wrong. What is it like to look back at? It is a bit

weird. I remember filling it. Then, yes, I don't know. It feels really

long ago. Judging how your character looks now, as Karen become more like

Ramona? Now she is probably the most different to me than she has been in

the series. Before I would play her younger. She is younger than me by

one year. Now she seems very different. We have a very different

style. We will move onto Daniel because you have grown up and you

are big, strapping lad. You will always be remembered being

boisterous. Glory! I have the world record. You can take the drill in

the car so long as you promise to leave it there when we get to

school. OK? No. What is the point of living? I thought we were having

salad. You are. Where is it? I put it in the blender. You got the part

of Spartacus? No, I am Spartacus. I am going to hear that joke a lot. A

little bird was telling us that you are keen rugby player. When you are

on the pitch and playing a game, do people ask if you are the guy from

Outnumbered? Yes. Usually it is after the match but sometimes it is

when I have just tackled someone and we are just getting up and they spot

me mid game. If they hate the show, do they bash you? I don't want to

see you on my television again! Tyger, we will save your highlights

because there is an event that has happened very recently that means we

can no longer call you the Outnumbered kids. Is that right?

Fairly correct. Because you are the grand old age of? 18! But first,

here are some of your journeys from childhood to adulthood. I am Emily

and we met when we were 18 singing on a bus and we became best friends.

When we were 18, we learned not to take ourselves seriously. People

love you for who you are. They might think you are old but they laugh

along and enjoy it. We had no worries or jobs to worry about. At

18 you can just decide to go. I don't think the thought is there not

to do it. We made lots of mistakes together. Money mistakes! At 18, I

think I learned how to live for the rest of my life. My name is Zoe and

when I was 18 I moved to America to work as an au pair. For the first

two months I wanted to come home every day. I was 18 and looking

after a 13-month-old baby with no idea what to do. I had done some

baby-sitting but that was it. Then I suddenly got past it and started

having a brilliant time and I made some great friends. I think it gave

me the confidence to do things that I really wanted to, rather than

following the crowd. I think I have followed a different route. Lilly is

15 months and brilliant. I think that having done it before when I

was 18 has helped. Eddie Blackstone. On my 18th birthday I

became eligible for national service. It was terrific. At 18, you

think you are bullet-proof. I was sent to Cyprus. It was a defining

moment. When I got to Cyprus, we were searching a village. There was

a guitar hanging up on a door and I bought it for a bar of soap and tin

of beans. Who knows? If I had gone in the Navy, I might not have seen a

guitar and I probably would never have learned to play. And to write

songs. My name is Sarah, 18 is a special

year for me because I find out I was expecting Rebecca. When I turned 18

I was doing my A-levels, second year and did not have a care in the

world. I did not have a boyfriend. I expected to do a teaching degree. I

was my own person. It's changed a year later. I became somebody's wife

and mother. A busy year. I want to go back to college to do what my mum

wanted to do, to become a primary school teacher. Hopefully I can do

it. I might go back to college and it will be a race to see who

qualifies! That was lovely. Do you remember your ratings? I do not,

actually. I just went out and had a night out with the lads. I was

wearing a horrible outfits! What did you do? I spend my birthday weekend

in Paris with a friend. We went bowling. We got drunk. You went to

Paris and he went bowling. That is the first thing you do in Paris! We

thought it would be fun to do. A little bird told us you were a fan

of a certain desert and we have a surprise as a birthday treat. We

welcome from the catering crew, Pam. APPLAUSE.

Thank you so much. What is so great about Banoffee pie? It is made by

this gorgeous lady sat next to me. She has the most amazing culinary

skills in the world. Every time there is Banoffee pie, she has to

stop me coming back for a thirds, fourths and fifths. Pam is the lady

who cooks for you on Outnumbered. In the house next door. We filmed in

one house and the house next door is where Pam cooks. Who is most greedy

out of you three? I used to be pretty greedy. One day, Ramona, you

had eight sausages or something. We can look at Jake's best bits.

We are going to be late. We will be fine. Can I get a note saying I was

late because my family is useless? My dad is making stupid faces. It is

cool. You can't say that about your age.

You were very good. If you want to see more of Outnumbered, the series

starts tonight at 9pm on BBC One. Ranks to Pam. Before you go, what

percentage of sugar and fat is in that? A huge amount. We ask because

tonight's Horizon programme explores the danger of two diets taken on by

two similar people. One diet is high in fat, and the other extremely high

in sugar. During the diet we will test our minds. And our bodies. How

they cope with eating just fat, or, just sugar. What we discover is

really surprising and really unsettling. It overturns the way I

think about my body. I am not well. After meeting this scientist and

some cheesecake eating rats, we found the latest research changed

what we thought we knew about fat and sugar. We would expect what most

doctors would expect. What most people in the street would expect.

That left us on a cliffhanger. The doctors join us now. You took part

in this. Why did you want to do it? It sounds risky. If you have been

reading the papers, all we have heard is that sugar is the new

nicotine and dangerous and that fat is not the villain any more, while

we grew up thinking it was a problem. We wanted to explore this,

using the fact we are identical twins. You did the sugar diet, you

did the fat diet. I could eat anything with less than 3% fat.

Almost any fruit, vegetable, cereals, rice and pasta, lean meat.

But meals without fat are joyless. That sounds healthy, lean meat and

fruit and vegetable. I lost weight. Did you have a similar experience? I

was on a diet with no carbohydrate, no sugar. The first trip to the

supermarket it is amazing, you do not have too spend money on

vegetables, you can spend it on expensive state, cheese and eggs.

But it leaves you feeling pretty bad. How did you choose who would do

what? We thought that... I wanted to do my diet. We thought might diet

would be healthy because sugar is the villain now. We thought the

high-fat diet would be good. It is like the Atkins diet a few years

ago. What was the effect? The most striking thing was you cannot

function mentally. We did a day of trading on the stock market with

fake money. This would have been the new financial crisis! We should not

be on the stock market anyway, but it was incredibly difficult,

remembering things, basic arithmetic in my head, really tough.

Physically, I was bad. I could not cycle up the hill. I was better at

losing weight. Four kilograms in a month, eating as much as I wanted,

providing it had no carbohydrates, which sounds wonderful, but half of

the weight was mass. I was more functional and I did not lose

muscle, I just lost fat. We get trapped into thinking that the key

thing is the weight loss. You have to to look at detail, with

biochemical tests. For people watching tonight, what will they

take from it? Everybody has an idea of a healthy diet. What you saw,

there were rats in the kit. The scientist brought them to my

apartment and fed them cheesecake. We will say guinea pigs! We are

talking about sugar being addictive. Ramona, will you have a

spoonful of sugar? Say what you think of it. That was quite a lot.

Do you want to eat another and another? Are you done with the

sugar? I would have more. But not the whole bowl. That would be

boring. You would become bored. Would you

like to have a spoonful of cream? It has very little sugar, but lots of

fat. Is it delicious? He is not pleased. Anybody who says it is

addictive is missing the point. Tyger, can you grab the whisk and

mix them together. If you can stir them up. This is what we are

thinking about with the Banoffee pie. That is a difficult job. We

should get Pam to do this! If you have a thick, sugary and

creamy bite and see what you think of it. He has essentially made

molten ice cream. That should be better than either one individually.

It is not brilliant but it is better than cream or sugar on their own. If

you phrase it, it would be delicious. Actually, it does

taste... You can see the documentary tonight on BBC Two. That is also at

9pm. That is going up against Outnumbered tonight. If you have

been taking part in the voting, the lines are now closed. Do not text

because you would be charged. Geography lesson, where would you

expect to find a barrier reef? 400 miles off the North North Coast?

Yass, 400 metres off the Norfolk coast. The -- Miranda went to find

it. The Norfolk coastline is one of the

most beautiful in Britain and holiday-makers have come here since

the 1700s. Three years ago, divers uncovered a secret. They found a

chalk Reef, possibly the longest in the world. Only about 1% of the

British coastline is made of chalk and most of it is in the south-east.

No one realised how much of it was submerged of the Norfolk coast. This

person led the team that made the discovery. We thought it was a

little patch, nothing extensive. When we started diving, we found

more. By mid-summer, we thought this is more than we thought. It is a

fantastic read. We found 20 miles of continuous reef system and we were

elated. What is more astonishing is that it is just metres away from the

shore. What are we likely to see on the dive? Hopefully, animals,

crustaceans, lobsters, crabs. We will find things that have not been

found in the world before. Unlike a coral reef, which is a living

structure, chalk reefs are made up from the skeletons of microscopic

plants, packed together over 65 million years ago. It is very

bizarre diving over such a white, bright, coloured substrate.

Normally, it is the bottom of the sea is silty and brown and covered

in seaweed. This is white and Brighton Rock. With that comes a

cast of creatures. We are diving at seven to eight meters. The chalk

creates nooks and crannies for animals to hide or living. -- live

in. We have a beautiful lobster. They love this sort of environment

because the chalk is soft. They can borrow within it. Since making the

survey, Rob and his team have recorded 150 species including fish

and enemies new to this coast. And a creature not found anywhere else in

the world. It does not look exciting, but it is purple, it grows

over the rock. It is a sponge. It is an animal. It eats whatever floats

past. They thought it was a species from the Mediterranean that had

moved here, but with more research, they found it was a species new to

science. That is the story of the chalk reefs. That is what makes it

unique. Everywhere I am coming across creatures I would not expect

to see. A master of disguise is this fish. He can change colour to blend

in with the surroundings. He is the cease Gorby. You normally see them

on tropical reefs and so it is a privilege to see it here -- sea

scorpion. This area is important for the lobster and crab industry, but

there are hopes that this amazing reef could one day become a marine

conservation zone. I have been diving for 20 years and all around

the world and it is great to know that there are still new habitats to

be discovered underwater. What is especially brilliant about this one

is that it is in the UK, right on our doorstep. Gosh. The visibility

is just beautiful. You would never believe that was off the Norfolk

coast. Lesley is about to star in Hot Flush, so we have sent the

Outnumbered family outside because it is not a topic for teenagers! It

is billed as one of the naughtiest musicals in town. Why are all my

characters naughty? After Dorian, people wanted Lesley to be naughty.

It is about hot flushes, four women and one man and it just things you

through all those moments in every woman's life. Somebody rings. There

is your bag in the supermarket. Everything comes out on the floor

and they have run off. It is four women who joined the Hot Flush Club

who meet every Tuesday and whinge about the men in their lives. But

how many characters are in it? About 19 because the man plays 15

characters. Including all of the characters in a speed dating song.

It is original music and very funny. One comes in in a leather thong and

not much else. My hands are going! The audience go berserk. Lots of hen

parties. Calm down. What are you making of this? Is this aimed at

women? Can men come? Are we allowed to go? Yes. It is not like the

Chippendales? No. The man does speak for every man. He has a brilliant

song. It is like stand-up. We break down the fourth wall at one point. I

do some stand-up. I sing and dance dubiously and I talk to the audience

and act. It has a bit of everything. When we opened, and this is the

third time I have done it, we added 15 minutes with laughter. I have

never been in a show with that kind of reaction. Everybody asked when we

would come back because the audience used to go laughing their heads off.

Come and see it. Speaking of comedy, Birds Of A Feather has come back to

ITV. Can you believe it? Who would have thought? How was it getting

back into the role? We did two stage plays of Birds Of A Feather and

during the 17 weeks one, we realised it still had legs. The comedy was

sharp, the characters were still there, and we negotiated putting it

back on TV. That is life. Showbiz! It was a classic. How long was it on

the BBC? Nine years, 103 episodes. The classic sitcom. Outnumbered took

over in that sort of style. Let's have a look at something from

tomorrow night's episode. Oh, Benedict Cumberbatch, I am partial

to his Sherlock. You can read the names that come up at the end? I

have had laser eye surgery. I have the vision of a sparrow hawk. And

the body of an oven ready chicken. It is quite naughty actually. It is

pre-watershed but we do get away with some things that I think gate

over people's heads in the ether. I don't know how. It is just

suggestion. It is lovely to see you back on screen and Hot Flush starts

touring the UK from at the fourth from the Wimbledon Theatre until

May. 20 of time to see it. Now, the results of the vote. How frequently

should your general waste be collected? The results are in and

71% say every week. 26% say two weeks and 3%, there are some people

out there, say every three weeks. Not entirely surprising. Carla says,

we have fortnightly collections and have done for several years and we

have never seen any rats. Sally from Kent, this is a good idea. In the

winter it should be fortnightly but in the summer weekly. Good sense

behind that. And Fiona in Cornwall. If you wait another week with your

brains, you have to double the rubbish, the lorry fills quickly,

and has to return to the depot more times so where is the saving? --

your bins. You used to work for the waste industry? Yes, I learned a lot

about the reproductive cycle of the blue bottle, which pushes me towards

weekly. I think it should be a different night each week.

Confusing! The foxes know when it is. Don't tell me that! We have to

confuse them. We put our stuff out and the boxes come and redistribute

it down the street. If you change the night, the foxes will give up.

We did a request for Eric Pickles to keep watching, so if you are, the

ants is 73% want it weekly. Now, wrapping chips stayed the same for

years but now there is the posh chip. As a suicide treat, you can't

beat chips. It is one of the UK's favourite takeaway is. In Brighton,

there are 35 chippies and no shortage of variety on the fish

front. Chips seem to stay the same but could that be about to change?

Pop in to any number of High Street restaurants these days, and your

chips are likely to turn up as polenta tips. Triple cooked duck fat

tips. -- chips. And if you are really splashing out, truffle chips.

Are we ready to go posh in the everyday chippy? We are taking over

this prior in Brighton to see if customers choose the posh version

over the regular sort. The owner swears by the 90-year-old family way

of making chips. Are exactly as grand dad did, we do now. Get the

potatoes and put them in the Rambler. Once the skin comes off,

into the bucket, then straight into the pan. When it comes to a choice

between our posh chips and yours, which will they go for? Is probably

mine because they are better. Are you up for the competition? Any

time. Fighting talk. The person I have got making my fresh posh chips

know something about food. The 2013 Masterchef champion Stephen. First

up, polenta chips. It is ground cornmeal and often seen as peasant

food. We have added Parmesan to it, fresh rosemary and blitzed it with

salt to finish it off. What is next? Triple cooked duck fat chip. What is

the benefit of triple cooking? To reduce the water content and get as

much flavour as possible into it. The third is my personal favourite,

the truffle chip. We will brush them with truffle oil and salt and

freshly grated white truffle. Travels can cost thousands of pounds

a kilo so how realistic would it be to put these on the menu of a

chippy? In terms of the workload, very realistic but in terms of

price, that is where it can get more difficult. Have you got any chance

against the traditional chips? A fantastic chance. It is just

persuading his customers to eat ours. The battle lines are drawn and

it is showtime. Normally the polenta chips are ?4 a portion and the

truffle chips ?10. All chips are for sale at the regular price of ?2.

They both favoured the Marys Piper potato, so it is all in the cooking.

Can I interest you in my posh chips? Duck fat. I would go with the

regular chips. That is nice. I like the duck fat ones. I like the

truffle chips. They taste nice but there is something weird. To be

honest, I prefer the traditional ones. Too much cheese. Roy's is

better. I am starting to struggle so with his back turned, I head into

the cafe for some dirty tricks. You have a rest. That afternoon. Can I

take your order and recommend my special posh chips? They are much

better than Roy's. I can take the plate away and bring you back a

plate of truffle chips. Go on, then. I have sneaked in some cheeky half

portions, but is it enough? I have got nine and you have got 10.5, so

you are the winner. Well done. Would you ever put the posh chips on your

menu? Maybe. But I think it would take too long. Congratulations on

your win. Young people are usually a truthful

barometer when it comes to food, so what do you think of the polenta

chips, the triple cooked and the duck fat? Scrumptious. You have

nearly eaten all of them so that is a good sign. We are now going to

meet some very important people. Some chip shop heroes. This is

Bettina Dawson and she has worked at the same chip shop was 77 years and

she has wrapped half a million chips. -- for 77 years. Amazing to

have you here. Ten years ago I sold 1 million. Who knows what the

statistics are? Don't get bogged down. What do you make of posh

chips? I have never heard of them. You just chuck them in the fryer.

What is your secret recipe with the oil? That would be telling. Can you

remember how much a bag of chips cost in 1936? Just a penny. And that

was proper chips, not posh chips. And you are off to the Palace to be

recognised. It is the British Empire medal. Only three people in Dumfries

and Galloway have got it. They are ever so proud of you. Now we are

going to find out why Steph Celik from Yorkshire is a chip shop hero.

Let's find out why. I am the fastest chip rapper in the world. You have

to put 350 grams of chips in a bag, salt and vinegar, and wrapped up

with two pieces of paper. That is what the Outnumbered group are going

to do. You know what you are doing? Two shovels in. Two pieces of paper.

Salt and vinegar. Go for your life now. Here we go. They have put them

on the floor! You have got 15 seconds left! Get

them in. That is one. Come on. Keep going. Another eight seconds. You

can do this. Four, three, two, one. That is it. Very good, Tyger. There

we are. Thanks to our chip shop heroes and well done to the chip

wrappers. Outnumbered is nine o'clock tonight on BBC One. And Hot

Flush tours in the UK from March the 4th starting in Wimbledon. Tomorrow

Clare Balding will be here to talk about all things Britain in the

Winter Olympics. Goodbye.