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Welcome to the show. Tonight's guest can be summed up by the title | :00:21. | :00:27. | |
of her most iconic song. I'll give you a clue. Girls just want to... | :00:27. | :00:31. | |
Seymour of the legs of that bloke that Andy Murray has just played. | :00:31. | :00:37. | |
It's good but it's not right. him drown his sorrows? That would | :00:37. | :00:46. | |
also be lovely, but it's this... Girls just want to have fun. It's | :00:46. | :00:56. | |
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Tell us, are you a fan of the tennis? Everybody watches it. I'm | :00:57. | :01:04. | |
not big on sports but I like to watch Serena Williams. Huge | :01:04. | :01:10. | |
congratulations to Andy Murray. was just watching it. Andy's mother, | :01:10. | :01:15. | |
Judy Murray, has been embarrassing debate by saying she really fancies | :01:15. | :01:21. | |
Feliciano Lopez. Do you think he's worth a wolf whistle? Yeah, come on, | :01:21. | :01:27. | |
he's working out hard. If you have an embarrassing mum, or if you are | :01:27. | :01:34. | |
an embarrassing mum yourself, send us a photo. Do tell us why. Have | :01:34. | :01:40. | |
you been an embarrassing mum, you have a son who is 13, Declyn? | :01:40. | :01:45. | |
is the age. I went to picking up one time from work. He was playing | :01:45. | :01:52. | |
lacrosse. I picked him up from practice. He said, you are so | :01:52. | :02:02. | |
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embarrassing! You came, you looked just like Cyndi Lauper! I am! But | :02:02. | :02:12. | |
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he's a great kid. I was just telling them how many mothers the | :02:13. | :02:17. | |
lessons - match how many lessons the mother probably drove her son | :02:17. | :02:21. | |
took through his life. If there's one thing a journalist loves, it's | :02:21. | :02:25. | |
telling the people juicy secrets. But our very own journalist, John | :02:25. | :02:29. | |
Sergeant, has a story of why a loose tongue could land you in jail. | :02:29. | :02:33. | |
The key thing when you're talking about the Official Secrets Act is | :02:33. | :02:39. | |
to have a good disguise. The Act is designed to prevent foreign powers | :02:39. | :02:44. | |
stealing away secrets... Or is it? No, everyone is covered by this Act. | :02:44. | :02:49. | |
None of us is meant to have official secret information. When I | :02:49. | :02:54. | |
joined the BBC years ago, I was officially told that I must abide | :02:54. | :03:01. | |
by the Act. So what is the thinking behind this legislation? Professor | :03:01. | :03:05. | |
Keith Jeffries is the only outsider to be giving unrestricted access to | :03:05. | :03:10. | |
the early files of MI6, when the Official Secrets Act started in | :03:10. | :03:16. | |
1911. This is a moment of national paranoia. They are really afraid of | :03:16. | :03:19. | |
German spies swarming across the country. Did they know much about | :03:19. | :03:23. | |
what spies would be like? They didn't have a clue. They thought | :03:23. | :03:28. | |
that any German was potentially a spy. They were worried about German | :03:28. | :03:31. | |
waiters and hairdressers. There were people who believed you could | :03:31. | :03:35. | |
tell spies and Germans by the shape of their head. What did the act | :03:35. | :03:39. | |
changed? For the first time, it established that all government | :03:39. | :03:44. | |
information was secret. And that all government servants had to keep | :03:44. | :03:48. | |
everything secret. If they revealed any information in the purpose of | :03:48. | :03:52. | |
their employment, that they could be prosecuted under the Act. | :03:52. | :03:57. | |
years ago, the short-lived News on Sunday revealed that if you read | :03:57. | :04:02. | |
this you could be sent to prison but two years. And what was this? | :04:02. | :04:07. | |
It was the menu from the Ministry of Defence. Which revealed for the | :04:07. | :04:17. | |
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first time that spaghetti bolognese cost 75p. It's �5.85 now. It's easy | :04:18. | :04:23. | |
to poke fun at the Official Secrets Act. But break it, and you could | :04:23. | :04:29. | |
face jail, an unlimited fine or both. Catherine Dunne was a GCHQ | :04:29. | :04:33. | |
translator who leaked secrets of the preparations for the Iraq war. | :04:33. | :04:38. | |
She could have been jailed for two years. She has moved to Turkey but, | :04:38. | :04:41. | |
thanks to the internet, we've been able to contact her and she is keen | :04:41. | :04:46. | |
to explain why she decided to break the law and ruin her career. At the | :04:46. | :04:52. | |
time I just wanted to get the information out and try and make a | :04:52. | :04:58. | |
difference. I felt what I did was to prevent an imminent war that | :04:58. | :05:07. | |
would cost the lives of thousands. As it happened, it didn't work. | :05:07. | :05:12. | |
her surprise the case was dropped at the start of her trial. For her | :05:12. | :05:16. | |
supporters, the climbdown exposed the irrelevance of the Act. | :05:16. | :05:20. | |
acted out of conscience. She wasn't a spy or anything of that kind. The | :05:20. | :05:25. | |
idea that you should use the big stick of the Official Secrets Act | :05:25. | :05:28. | |
against a conscience stricken whistleblower is wrong and out of | :05:28. | :05:32. | |
date. The Official Secrets Act is a hangover from wartime. | :05:32. | :05:35. | |
governments are bound to want to keep their secrets secret. That's | :05:35. | :05:39. | |
the problem. Politicians don't want to have their grubby little secrets | :05:39. | :05:44. | |
exposed. So Whitehall and Westminster have every incentive to | :05:44. | :05:48. | |
retain the Act. And therefore, the only way you will get it stopped or | :05:49. | :05:52. | |
reform despite pressure from outside. One of the biggest threats | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
to government secrets comes from the internet. Thousands of | :05:55. | :06:02. | |
confidential documents have been published by WikiLeaks. So has the | :06:02. | :06:07. | |
Official Secrets Act had its day? It still embodies the notion that | :06:07. | :06:10. | |
all government information is secret unless the Government | :06:10. | :06:14. | |
chooses to release it. And that means as well as hiding genuine | :06:14. | :06:17. | |
national secrets, there's the potential and sometimes the | :06:17. | :06:20. | |
suspicion that governments might hide things for embarrassment | :06:20. | :06:27. | |
reasons. That's not good enough. The government has become more open | :06:27. | :06:33. | |
in recent years. We know that is the headquarters of MI6. But within | :06:33. | :06:36. | |
that building there are still plenty of secrets. And so there | :06:36. | :06:43. | |
should be. Lovely hat, John. He looked smart. Talking of the Act, | :06:43. | :06:47. | |
you got to be careful what you say to hairdressers. Yet, but he | :06:47. | :06:51. | |
doesn't look like you say it's a long time in the chair. You don't | :06:51. | :06:55. | |
know what's going on and do that hat. That's true. George Bernard | :06:55. | :06:59. | |
Shaw once famously said that as Brits and you Americans were two | :06:59. | :07:03. | |
countries separated by a common language. It's true. Talking of | :07:04. | :07:10. | |
languages, I'm not so great. Alex speaks Welsh and Inglis form --. | :07:10. | :07:15. | |
But now there are a number of mobile phone apps that translator | :07:15. | :07:23. | |
at the touch of a button. When we Brits go abroad and of faced with | :07:23. | :07:30. | |
the language barrier, things can get a little bit embarrassing. | :07:30. | :07:35. | |
Thank you for speaking English. not any more. Technology has come | :07:35. | :07:39. | |
to the rescue. I've hopped off the Eurostar and arrived in Paris. I'm | :07:39. | :07:44. | |
going to spend all day speaking French using only this to help the. | :07:44. | :07:47. | |
My phone is armed with an application which can translate my | :07:47. | :07:51. | |
voice into French and from French back into English. And I don't have | :07:51. | :07:56. | |
to write a message or look up the words. I want to do some | :07:56. | :08:05. | |
sightseeing. I'm going to see it can translate, where is the Louvre. | :08:05. | :08:10. | |
Where is the Louvre? It's working. Where is Billy's? Minor teething | :08:10. | :08:20. | |
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problems. Where is the museum? I'm going to put in the Louvre. One | :08:22. | :08:32. | |
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Merci. Nitro wheels are Hayes. That's confusing in any language! | :08:51. | :08:58. | |
Let's help the app out by speaking slower. It is far and take the | :08:58. | :09:03. | |
Metro. We have figured out that I need to get to a Metro. Merci, au | :09:03. | :09:09. | |
revoir. We are underground. I want to find out how to buy a ticket. | :09:09. | :09:19. | |
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One ticket, please. What do you think? It's good? Very good. | :09:21. | :09:28. | |
Success! It worked, I got my ticket. I made it. The first part of my | :09:28. | :09:38. | |
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Time to reward myself with an ice cream. What fragrance? I'm guessing | :09:45. | :09:51. | |
that means flavour. This is working a treat. Off to the Eiffel Tower. | :09:51. | :10:01. | |
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I wonder what my cab driver thinks Another Parisian landmark, and I | :10:09. | :10:19. | |
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can't leave here without having my It's been a bit hit and miss. So do | :10:21. | :10:26. | |
the apps make us recognise it's not perfect? It is dependent on the | :10:26. | :10:29. | |
noise around you and whatever else is going on and the connection you | :10:29. | :10:33. | |
have. Let's not forget this was an element of almost science-fiction | :10:33. | :10:38. | |
10 years ago, now it's a reality. We are breaking barriers. We are | :10:38. | :10:41. | |
enabling people from different cultures to embrace and communicate | :10:41. | :10:45. | |
with each other. The final and most important test is the language of | :10:45. | :10:55. | |
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I think this is going to be worth understanding! Could you repeat it | :10:59. | :11:09. | |
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It makes me very happy to see you. Did you notice that was the only | :11:16. | :11:22. | |
phrase that she didn't actually Query? All he was trying to say was | :11:22. | :11:28. | |
Nitro wheels are Haye. Cyndi, you are quoted as saying I'd do speak | :11:28. | :11:33. | |
the Queen's English, just the wrong Queens, it's over be 59th Bridge in | :11:33. | :11:40. | |
New York. Do people struggle sometimes to understand you? No, I | :11:40. | :11:45. | |
think it's really great when I come here because you all have an accent. | :11:45. | :11:50. | |
It's a really thick accent to me. I feel comfortable because I have an | :11:50. | :11:54. | |
accent, too. Especially if I go to Australia, they we have an accent. | :11:54. | :12:00. | |
I don't mind your accent because it makes me... I like accents. What | :12:00. | :12:06. | |
about County Durham, here? It's nice. I think it's great to have an | :12:06. | :12:10. | |
accent. You know where people are from, it's the flavour of the world. | :12:10. | :12:15. | |
You are back on tour, touring Europe. I am. With music in a | :12:15. | :12:20. | |
different style to what people might accept -- expect. Edit a | :12:20. | :12:30. | |
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Blues CD. -- idea Day Blues CD. It's been quite extraordinary for | :12:30. | :12:38. | |
me. I feel so lucky. To be singing this, it's Blues but we mix it up. | :12:38. | :12:43. | |
It's kind of a fabulous gift to be able to go back, because when I | :12:43. | :12:47. | |
started singing I was in a Janis Joplin cover band. I kind of went | :12:48. | :12:52. | |
back and started again. You are sounding great. We've got a clip of | :12:52. | :13:02. | |
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# Early this morning. # All that's left arm my shattered | :13:19. | :13:29. | |
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dreams... You do sound incredible. Have you completely ditched the old | :13:30. | :13:36. | |
songs? No, that's what I was trying to tell you. We do them with a | :13:36. | :13:41. | |
blues flavour. It's kind of fun. It's hilarious to me. I have a | :13:41. | :13:51. | |
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blast. I do goals -- Girls Just Want To Have Fun. I meant that song | :13:53. | :13:58. | |
to empower women. Being part of a song like that which gives | :13:58. | :14:03. | |
empowerment to women all over the world is fantastic. It's become an | :14:03. | :14:11. | |
anthem. It's always been. On we go. Many things have been used to heal | :14:11. | :14:17. | |
wounds over the years that leave a nasty taste in your mouth. Leeches, | :14:17. | :14:21. | |
maggots, even intestinal parasites. Enough - people are eating their | :14:22. | :14:28. | |
tea! The latest from Birmingham is far from sour. It's quite sweet. | :14:28. | :14:36. | |
Its sugar. A bats better. -- that is better. When it comes to | :14:36. | :14:41. | |
treating wounds, infection is the number one enemy. It can even be | :14:41. | :14:45. | |
life threatening. Here at the new Queen Elizabeth Hospital in | :14:45. | :14:48. | |
Birmingham, a pioneering study is looking at a sweet solution to | :14:48. | :14:53. | |
wound healing. Ordinary sugar, the stuff we put in our tea. It's | :14:53. | :15:00. | |
proving an effective solution. This nursing lecturer is the man who's | :15:00. | :15:06. | |
convinced the NHS to take this treatment seriously. He grew up in | :15:06. | :15:10. | |
Zimbabwe. With no money for medicine, his father treated his | :15:10. | :15:20. | |
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wounds with sugar. UCATT yourself and you turn to sugar. He was | :15:20. | :15:29. | |
pouring sugar on to the wound? The tie the sugar around it. | :15:29. | :15:39. | |
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would rip off a bit of his shirt, When Moses first arrived in the UK, | :15:39. | :15:43. | |
he was surprised to see that we were not using sugar in our | :15:43. | :15:50. | |
hospitals. He has fought to win approval to test it on patients. | :15:50. | :15:54. | |
Malcolm Day had a skin graft on his elbow in 2009 after an insect bite | :15:54. | :15:58. | |
became infected. But the skin covering his joined refuses to heal. | :15:58. | :16:04. | |
He started sugar treatment 24 hours ago. Malcolm, it is about the size | :16:04. | :16:11. | |
of a 10 pence piece on the edge of your elbow. It looks very sore. | :16:11. | :16:17. | |
is not so red as it was yesterday. Sugar Greece poured on to cause, | :16:17. | :16:21. | |
then carefully rolled onto the wind. Depending on size and severity of | :16:21. | :16:27. | |
the wind, the sugar dressing can be replaced as often as twice a day. | :16:27. | :16:31. | |
This is not the first time sweet stuff has been used by the NHS. | :16:31. | :16:36. | |
Clinical trials have shown that honey has anti-bacterial properties | :16:36. | :16:41. | |
and can promote wound healing. But Moses' research centres on sugar, | :16:41. | :16:45. | |
as it is readily available, and perhaps more importantly to the NHS, | :16:45. | :16:48. | |
it is cheap. So what other properties of sugar that enable it | :16:48. | :16:53. | |
to fight infection in wounds? It all centres on sugar's ability to | :16:53. | :16:59. | |
absorb moisture. The bacteria that cause the infection need water to | :16:59. | :17:06. | |
survive. As you pour sugar run to the wind, it sucks up the water, | :17:06. | :17:12. | |
dehydrating and killing any bacteria. Moses has won support for | :17:12. | :17:16. | |
his sugar treatment from a hospital consultant, who is backing the | :17:16. | :17:24. | |
project. He himself used sugar to treat gunshot wounds in Kenya. | :17:24. | :17:27. | |
dressings for wounds need to be absorbent, nonadherent and capable | :17:27. | :17:32. | |
of suppressing infection. Sugar ticks the boxes. And it is widely | :17:32. | :17:39. | |
available, cheap and well tolerated. They have now started a full | :17:39. | :17:43. | |
clinical trial of the sugar treatment that will take up to 18 | :17:43. | :17:46. | |
months to complete. For patients like Malcolm Day, sugar treatment | :17:46. | :17:52. | |
is already proving effective. After 48 hours, his wind has improved | :17:52. | :17:56. | |
significantly. Sugar treatments cost just �1.50 on average per | :17:57. | :18:00. | |
patient. So if the trial proves successful, there could save the | :18:00. | :18:05. | |
NHS a fortune and be available on wards like this within two years. | :18:05. | :18:11. | |
Something to think about next time you asked one lump or two? | :18:11. | :18:15. | |
Had is definitely a cheap alternative. He said you are | :18:16. | :18:20. | |
desperately trying to give up sugar. Yes, it is very hard, because it is | :18:20. | :18:24. | |
in everything. And it promotes yeast all the time. I guess it | :18:24. | :18:29. | |
works great on wounds. It is quite surprising. It is surprising, | :18:30. | :18:36. | |
because they always say Sugar is bad for you. Cyndi, in 1984, you | :18:36. | :18:41. | |
won the first ever MTV award for Best Female Video for Girls Just | :18:42. | :18:45. | |
Want to Have Fun. And it is still following you around. This is | :18:45. | :18:51. | |
brilliant. This was you belting it out when you and other passengers | :18:51. | :18:56. | |
were delayed at Buenos Aires airport. That was obviously very | :18:56. | :19:01. | |
any Prom queue. You see that lady next to me? She was the person | :19:01. | :19:07. | |
making the announcements, and suddenly she turned into a DJ. | :19:07. | :19:12. | |
There was a bachelor rent party going on. And when the flight was | :19:12. | :19:17. | |
delayed, they started the party. They were dressed in Carnival | :19:17. | :19:20. | |
because it was carnival time, and the poor bride had a thing on her | :19:20. | :19:23. | |
head. They blindfolded her and they were singing over the microphone. | :19:23. | :19:29. | |
And then there was a rugby team, and they were chanting. And then | :19:29. | :19:34. | |
suddenly they were like Cyndi is here, and she is going to sing. I | :19:34. | :19:41. | |
thought, this is just like the movie. They are so funny, too. | :19:42. | :19:46. | |
1984, when you won the award, that must have been an amazing feeling. | :19:46. | :19:51. | |
Well, I was nominated for seven and I was so glad to win one, because | :19:51. | :19:55. | |
my mom was there. And I wore the tiara and wanted to be Queen of | :19:55. | :20:00. | |
something. Did you realise at the time that you were going to plays | :20:00. | :20:06. | |
this trail for women in pop? Well, I would have loved to have done | :20:06. | :20:14. | |
that anyway so, because I think sisterhood is powerful. We have a | :20:14. | :20:21. | |
lovely picture of you with Lady Gaga. You are certainly have a role | :20:21. | :20:25. | |
model. You know, she does her own thing. She is very much into art | :20:25. | :20:32. | |
and sculpture. It was really enjoyable to do that campaign with | :20:32. | :20:40. | |
her. I never felt like a freak. I could just relax. We raised a lot | :20:40. | :20:48. | |
of money for AIDS awareness. have played Glastonbury and spent a | :20:48. | :20:52. | |
lot of -- you have played Glasgow and you seem to have Scotland? | :20:52. | :20:59. | |
I have friends there. My friend Angela is also a singer. She is | :20:59. | :21:05. | |
from there, and they held a party for me. All the musicians got | :21:05. | :21:10. | |
together and they played fiddle music. It was wonderful. As a treat, | :21:10. | :21:18. | |
we have made you or Lady Lauper of Lochaber. We have sorted you're a | :21:18. | :21:22. | |
bit of land in the Highlands. We planted an oak tree there for you. | :21:22. | :21:29. | |
There is the proof. Thank you. That is so sweet! Earlier, we asked for | :21:29. | :21:37. | |
pictures of your embarrassing mums. We have had loads. Here is Hannah | :21:37. | :21:44. | |
with Herr embarrassing mum no Greece. -- Louise. What have you | :21:44. | :21:53. | |
got? Lauren says, my mom does all she can to embarrass me, but I love | :21:53. | :22:00. | |
her dearly. This is Kirsten and Jess. This is their mum. They say | :22:00. | :22:06. | |
she asks for random things and stars ram conversations in shops. | :22:06. | :22:11. | |
am sure Billy's mum, when he is older, will thank him for that. | :22:11. | :22:16. | |
went out of her way. My son would be embarrassed of the shot with me | :22:16. | :22:20. | |
holding my MTV award. The Memphis Blues tour continues at London hums | :22:20. | :22:24. |