30/08/2011 The One Show

Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.

Tonight's guest has a colourful past, following a stint as a

conniving catty wag this bad girl ended up in prison. She went on to

the dance floor to tango for a while before ending up in Albert

Now, we have a very expensive coffee table, you leave that alone!

It's Zoe Lucker. You can throw anything you want but don't touch

the plasma. I won't. That's unbelievable the stay you get into

it was really good fun actually doing that. It was one of those

things I think as a person you always think it would be nice at

times to trash your room. That's exactly what you said. It's an

excuse to vent your anger, just go for it. Yeah and the director of

that episode just set the thing up for one take so he got all the

cameras in the positions, made sure everybody was sure that nothing was

going to go wrong and just said, right, in your own time, go for it.

It's a mammoth reset that one. would have been a nightmare, yeah.

We will chat about EastEnders more later. You at home always help us

when we ask for photos and stories, you are brilliant. Four years ago

we went one step further and asked you to move house to a remote

island in the Shetlands called Fetlar. There it is. The reason, it

was in the throes of a population crisis. What happened next, well

it's over to Dom Littlewood to discover whether island life is

flourishing or fading fast. This is a story about what's

important in life and what you want from it. A journey that begins with

a plane, another plane, a car journey, a ferry, another car

journey, and a final ferry to Fetlar. It's a little Shetland

island that's closer to Norway than Glasgow. In 2007 with the

population dwindling 18-year-old resident Rachel used The One Show

to appeal to viewers nationwide and four years later I am here to find

out what happened next. And perhaps to find out what we can learn from

the small island with a very big heart.

How are you? You certainly can't complain about waking up to a view

lake that every day? No, we consider ourselves really lucky to

live somewhere that's so beautiful. When The One Show film went out, at

that point there was less than 50 people living here, how is it now?

Everything this island was, was under threat at that point. We had

a lot of people that showed interest and we are back up to 70

now so things are promising for us. Why it was important? This place is

one of a kind and it's everything I want for my future. On a day like

today with the sun there's nowhere else I would rather be and to think

we were going to lose that through lack of people knowing about us was

terrible. But despite the increase to 70, the island's population is

less than a third of what it was 100 years ago and and it's a way of

life the islanders want to keep going, like Isla. That puts her to

her left. To her right. Give it a go. Just get it between your teeth

and just breathe. That way! It's not moving. No, she's very confused.

Right now I have no phone reception, my feet are freezing and I couldn't

get a station on the telly last night. What is it about Fetlar you

love? You don't need a TV when you can look at this lovely scenery.

Where do I get a latte? I will drop a teabag in a cup in the house. You

feel safe here, it's a good place to bring up children. The postman

has been delivering letters on the island for over 30 years. You go

into houses? There's no crime here. Everybody would see you. How do you

feel about the fact the population has increased? That's really what

we need. We are desperately in feed of young -- in need of young folk

to come back here. I will be doing this for another month or so, I am

due to retire. Oh, no! It will be the next guy that comes along will

have to think about that. The new postman is James, who moved

his family up to Fetlar from the Cotswolds two years ago. What made

you want to suddenly change your lifestyle? I used to work in the

construction industry and I had made redundant twice in one year. I

know there's a shortage of families on remote islands so I got a map

out and a pin, closed my eyes and Fetlar came up. We were just in the

rat race and wanted a change of life and I would have been forever

thinking what if, what if, if we hadn't made the move. Can I ask you

what do you think? I love it here, it's great everyone's friendly and

you don't feel like an outsider as you move in, everybody welcomes you.

You don't have a single regret? not at all. I miss my family. But

still I wouldn't go and live back down south. Now more families may

be attracted to boost the Shetland population as a multimillion pound

British movie is going to be filming on Fetlar. It's already

sparked so much interest. People who live just two ferry rides away

on the mainland have never been here and they're turning up here.

The film's director wants as many of Fetlar's residents to be in the

movie as possible, so next time I will be sitting in on a few

familiar faces auditioning for what could be their chance of a lifetime.

Next! Why am I the only person that's

been asked to come in fancy dress? You looked quite cute. Cute! With a

battle axe? It was the furry thing. The rabbit. Incredible place.

not going to spoil the plot of the film, it's a cast and crew of about

80 and it's a nice Feel-Good movie and there's a lot of people get

trapped on the island and I am not going to tell you what happens

other than that. A few people in it though, Sharleen from Texas, the

guy you saw there laughing was the director, big names, the guy from

Taggart is there as well. We are going to see part two of your

adventure on Friday. What can we look forward to? Well, there's 1300

people auditioned for parts in this film and I was one of them. It's

the first time I have gone for an acting role. Is that costume a

clue? I didn't know what the part was. It's what put me off, I am

more used to cameras than anyone else, I don't know if I got the

part. I might be a this is a thespian. You are used to camera.

Maybe I am too confident, some people overact. You were amazed

hearing some of the facts. Is island life for you? Absolutely

beautiful, but I wouldn't be comfortable with my postman just

knocking on the door and coming in for tea first thing in the morning

when I haven't got my face on. said that's rude putting it through

the letterbox. He is lovely my postman but... The population isn't

the only thing dwindling on Fetlar. There's wildlife, there's a couple

of birds, apparently they're down to 36 breeding pairs in the UK.

It's quite important these animals hopefully get to survive. Scottish

wild cats, they reckon are going to be extinct by 2050. At the moment

that's where most of them are. There's an issue with connection

and broadband. That's one of the reasons the population dwindles.

People need it for businesses, broadband. The Government are

making an announcement this week, they're investing half a billion in

fibre optic trying to get it to rural areas. They haven't said

where it's going but Fetlar is one of the areas which we think is

going to benefit and hopefully that will help increase the population.

Good luck with hearing about that film.

Infertility is heartbreaking for anybody but if you are a couple in

need of an egg donor then you face an uphill struggle. Dr Mark Porter

is here to explain why there's a shortage of women willing to donate

eggs, first Anita has one couple's story. Ever since Sarah and Vincent

met they've dreamed of starting a family together but a rare

condition left Sarah unable to produce her own eggs so the couple

can't conceive naturally. Although they enjoy spending time with their

niece and nephew, they long to have a child of their own. For the last

send years they've been searching for a suitable egg donor. How

important is it for you to have your own child? All the love I give

to my nieces and nephews, I would like to give that to my child as

well. We love children. It would be nice to have our own child now.

There isn't any egg donors at all, that's what we got told. So to have

an egg donor you have to find one for yourself. Sarah and Vincent's

treatment is being funded by the NHS and they've only got one chance

left to get the eggs they need. In a final desperate bid to find their

donor they've put up posters and made appeals online. It's not just

a question of finding a willing volunteer, any potential donor will

have to undergo a series of tests and counselling before any

treatment can go ahead. There simply aren't enough donors in the

UK. Statistics show around 1,000 women donate eggs each year. But to

meet demand that number would need to double. Why does demand outstrip

supply? Women are waiting longer before they have children. As you

become older it's more likely you run out of eggs and the only

fertility treatment you will be able to have is with the use of

donor eggs. We are having more patients surviving cancers at a

young age so we have a lot of women now who have had radiotherapy or

chemotherapy so a large group need donor eggs. Becoming an egg donor

can be a complex process involving procedures and the potential of

side-effects. Donor numbers in this country have been low so many

couples go abroad where eggs are more readily available. Is it time

to relax regulations here to encourage more women to come

forward? Certainly I think if you paid egg donors undoubtedly you

would get more donors but that does carry significant risk,

particularly about exploitation of donors and donors donating for the

wrong reason. In Manchester Sarah and Vincent have had an amazing

stroke of luck, they may have found a suitable donor close to home.

Julie, a mother of one, works in the same building as Vincent and

came forward after seeing an appeal he posted online. Why did you

decide to become an egg donor? think if you can help, you should.

I work with Vincent, he was promoting advertising looking for

an egg donor and I realised that donating eggs is a huge thing. But

because I know that there's a wonderful couple who need some help

to start a family I would do it without blinking. What about the

idea there's a person out there that shares your DNA? I don't see

it as my baby at all. I see it as something somebody else needs to

start a family of their own. Since 2005 children born from egg

donation have had the right to track down their biological parents

once they turn 18. Julie has discussed this with Sarah and

Vincent and the two families are already thinking ahead. The basic

conversation we have had is we would like, more for our children's

sake, to have some form of relationship going forward so that

they don't get a bombshell but it's their baby and I am happy to step

back and leave them to it and they'll get in touch in their own

time. Before she can donate her eggs Julie has had to undergo a

series of tests. Today she will get the results and find out if she's a

suitable donor for the Johnsons. Her partner has come along for

moral support. That's everything done. We are

happy all the tests are fine and I am pleased to tell you that

everything is good news. We have measured hormones in your blood to

give you an idea of the number of eggs and that's good news too.

the appointment over Julie is off to call Sarah and Vincent who have

been waiting for the news that could change their lives forever.

Hello. I thought I would let you know how it's gone. Everything is

OK. All the blood, everything, they're happy to go ahead.

Brilliant. Christmas baby! Well, pregnant by Christmas. That's good

news. After seven years, the Johnsons' wait may finally be over.

It's really positive, really good. Hopefully on the way to having our

own little bundle of joy. I have a good feeling about this. I just

hope it works this time. It's an incredible thing Julie is

to do. Is there an update on the case. You heard Sarah talking about

hoping to be pregnant by Christmas and that looks possible. Both

couples will be counselled, then if all goes well, the women's cycling

will be put in sy, this y and then the harvesting occurs, of Julie's

eggs mixing with Steven's sperm and off we go, this all sounds simple

There are two areas we should talk about, should we be paying people

to be sperm and egg donors that. Tends to encourage the wrong people

to come forward for the wrong reasons. Most people wouldn't want

to see a change. And there's anonymity. Until 2005 you could

donate and nobody could find out who the parent was. That changed in

2005. I was one of a group of doctors worried that our small pool

of donors would vanish if they're identified. That's not been the

case. Since then the number of donors has gone up. It appears that

the dropping p anonymity hasn't affected things. I think a lot of

women don't even know what the process vofls -- involves. Lots of

people on Facebook have been asking, is it painful, what happens? First

of all, we don't need to change the rules. We need better awareness.

People know there's a big need out there, that there are people who

need help. The second thing is that giving sperm is very easy. It takes

five, ten minutes. Being an egg donor it's very different. It's

weeks of hormone therapy, a minor operation, very minor operation, to

harvest the eggs. Sometimes very rarely, it can go wrong. It's not

something to be taken lightly. Fpblgt it's a tricky one wha. Do

you think? For all those women who do, considering the things they

have to go to, it's an amazing thing these women are doing. Gosh.

Thanks Mark. OK. Now, Zoe, obviously EastEnders, very well

known for playing Vanessa. Tonight your ex-husband returns, giving you

a bit of an ultimatum. Really surprised me tonight. I did? Yeah,

the way you were with Jodie. This means more to her. It means a lot

to me too. Shame you won't be there to see it.

What? Didn't I mention? Well, I'll do all the stuff I promised on one

condition, you're not at the wedding.

APPLAUSE You didn't even rip off the blind

or throw the glass of wine. We have seen photos of you snoging Eddie

Moon, played by David Essex. Sure. What was that like? You said "sure".

Very diplomatic. Normally where you do these scenes, when you're

kissing or more, I approach it in the same way as getting into

something emotional, getting into the zone in character. Weirdly,

with David, as I was about to go on into the scene I entered into a

room and a voice went to me "You're just about to make out with

Davidess E -- David Essex." It really threw me. The director had

to come out and say, just relax. He's a great actor, lovely bloke

and it was a pleasure. Good. You're leaving EastEnders then. My wife

doesn't think the door will be left open for you. She doesn't? Can you

shed any light on that? Well, yes I can. Yes, the door has been left

open. That's all good. Because I did absolutely loved my time there.

I finished two weeks ago. I was really sad to say bye to everybody,

sad to say bye to that character. I've had a lovely run offer the

past couple of months. I've spent a year not doing that much, great to

work with Jake, who plays Max, but in the past few months I've been

getting really good story lines and getting to spread my wings, work

with lots of different actors who I think are brilliant. Vanessa Gold

and Tanya, in Footballers' Wives and Bad Girls, they're full on

characters, do you think you'll play somebody more sedate? I did, I

made a conscious decision when I left Footballers' Wives to play a

character that was contrasting to that. I toured New Zealand for

three months with a two-hander. That was a very different character.

Then I came back and did hole by Holby Blue. I was more subdued. I

seem to be drawn to these kind of women. I love them. Is it right you

had such a tough time when you were younger, you were going to retrain

as a teacher? Yeah, I had months and months where I was going for

auditions getting nothing back that. Rejection is horrible. I was sit

being with my father one day and I said "I don't want to feel like

this forever. This is depressing." We sat down and discussed and said

I should maybe do something else. I had always wanted to be a teacher.

My parents were both teachers. Any way, we were just literally about

to write off to teacher training courses and Footballers' Wives came

up. It was obviously meant to be. What is lovely, we often ask you to

bring photos in and you have brought this in in a frame. That's

lovely. That's really embarrassing. I said to them, I took it out of a

different frame and put it into that dodgy frame and it's cut out

really badly. It doesn't matter. Your dad looks a bit like Alan

Titchmarsh. He does a bit. Were your parents strict then because

they were teach snerz Yeah, they were. My father was strict. My

mother used to try and get around and you know, used to try and get

things out of her and say to dad, mum said we could have it. But she

could see through it really. know you went to Sunday school as a

chieltd. -- child. That will serve you well. Gyles Brandreth with the

help of the London Community Gospel Choir will host a quiz for us

shortly, it's called name that hymn. We will need your help. Do you

Yes Jerusalem is just one of the famous hymns written by Hubert

Parry. He was a man who struggled with his own faith.

Sir Hubert Parry composed some of the most inspirational muse nick

British history. His work has been performed at royal weddings, party

conferences, the women's ipbs oo tuet and the Proms. One of his most

loved tunes reveals a passionate man who struggled with his own

faith. Parry's music provides the melody

for one of the nation's most uplifting hymns, dear Lord andkind.

While he remained a spiritual man, he lost his faith in the trappings

of the Anglican Church. Born in 1848, Parry showed a gift

for music from an early age. His father wanted him to have a

conventional career. He took a job in insurance with Lloyds. After

seven years, he gave it up to concentrate on his beloved music.

Hubert Parry's father a wealthy land owner -- and artist,

commissioned this church in Gloucester, as a memorial to his

late wife and three of their children who died in infancy. The

grandeur, scale, ambition of the church reflect his deep faith. This

is stunning, isn't it? It's absolutely extraordinary. This is

all Thomas Parry's work. Parry's father did this himself. He spent

ten years on it. It's wonderfully exuberant. But he himself was a

straight laced conventional man. Yes he was. When his eldest brother

was disinherited he became heir to the family estate. He was

influenced by Darwin and humanism and told his father so. It was a

kind of crisis of faith for him? Very much so. A huge personal

crisis and his father was devastated. It wasn't a furious

denunciation on his part, but he wrote to him saying you know,

you've become an infidel. His own son was in peril of the dam nation,

this is how he would have Dean it. In 1883, six years after committing

to a musical career, he was appointed professor at the Royal

College of Music in London. In 1888 he created his oratorio Judith,

which included the aria which later become the tune we know as Repton.

The music room still exists in his family home. It's not like a

typical Victorian Anglican hymn. They tend to be stirring, but very

four square. If you think of oh, God our help in ages past. Plonk,

plonk, plonk, plonk and a chord underneath each note and one

syllable per note, very clear. This starts off in a flowing way. You

really sense this is an emotional man here. It's contained but

impassioned. It wasn't until 1924 after Parry's death that the words

of a quaker poem uals set to this evocative tune by the music

director at Repton school. What does the music tell us about the

man? We can sense what an impassioned ar dents man he is.

This is almost like a romantic movement compressed into a minute

of hymn tune, a great sweeping tune conceived in a single arch. These

are the gardens, at Hubert Parry's family home. Could there be a

better setting for the performance What do you think Parry would have

made of this? He died in 1918, in the middle of a terrible flu

epidemic at the end of the First World War. He never saw this hymn

become the loved institution that it is. Despite his own struggle

with his faith? He never lost the belief in the divine spark, still

the small voice of calm. That was Now, Matt, Alex Zoe, I invite you

to play... # Name that hymn #

APPLAUSE Yes it's time for name that hymn. I

am looking for a hymn written by one Scot Henry Francis Light in

1847 as the poor man lay dying from TB. Any idea? I'll tell you

something more. Since 1927 the first and last verses of this hymn

have been sung at the FA Cup final before the kickoff? Any idea? You

think you know? I'll give you a line. I fear no foe with thee at

hand to bless. What's the hymn? Lord is my shepherd. You know

absolutely nothing! It's Abide With APPLAUSE

Very nice. OK the next hymn I want you to name is a Victorian hymn,

one of the most popular Victorian hipldz by Mrs Alexander. This was

paradeed by the Godies on their 1978 goodies beastly record I'm a

carnivore. That's a clue for you. All things bright and beautiful.

# All things bright and beautiful # All creatures great and small

# All things wise and wonderful # The Lord God made them all #

APPLAUSE Eat your heart out Aled! The next

one? The last one is a, written by a poet John Newton. It's been

adopted by the Americans as part of their culture much it's a spiritual

National Anthem for them, in times of tragedy. When this flesh and

heart shall fail and mortal heart shall cease I shall possess within

the veil joy and peace. Joy to the world? No, it is...

# Amazing grace, how sweet the sound

# That saved a wretch like me # Very nice indeed.

That's all for tonight. Thanks Gyles and the London Community