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On the Review Show tonight, we have Father Ted, Dickens for Christmas | :00:20. | :00:29. | |
and a modern morality tale. A '50s classic, the Ladykillers, is | :00:29. | :00:36. | |
reworked by 21st century comic masters. Would you like a tea, Mr | :00:36. | :00:42. | |
Marcus? Oh, I do apologise. I should have known your face. | :00:42. | :00:45. | |
Another reinvention of tradition in Dickens' Great Expectations for the | :00:45. | :00:50. | |
BBC. He is to live as a young fellow of | :00:50. | :00:56. | |
great expectations. Real people from the past at Scotland's | :00:56. | :01:00. | |
National Portrait Gallery after a two-year revamp with 60% more space. | :01:00. | :01:07. | |
Does a new picture of the nation emerge? And a documentary portrait | :01:07. | :01:12. | |
of a forgotten woman in her 30s whose skeleton was found three | :01:12. | :01:17. | |
years after her death in a London flat. What does that say about | :01:17. | :01:19. | |
modern Britain? I often thought about what she was doing and | :01:19. | :01:22. | |
probably most of the time I actually thought that, she was | :01:22. | :01:29. | |
already dead. Plus, performing live in the studio, | :01:29. | :01:39. | |
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the Manic Street Preachers' front man, James Dean Bradfield. Joining | :01:40. | :01:44. | |
me in the studio to mull and whine over the seasonal offerings are the | :01:44. | :01:50. | |
Classic FM presenter Mark Forrest, the Economist's public policy | :01:50. | :01:53. | |
editor Anne McElvoy, the writer AL Kennedy and comedian and political | :01:53. | :01:58. | |
activist Mark Thomas. Don't forget to send us a torrent of Tweets. | :01:58. | :02:02. | |
They keep us amused and horrified in the green room after the show. | :02:02. | :02:06. | |
The transition from stage to screen is well established, but some | :02:06. | :02:09. | |
recent productions have reversed the trend. Think about Dirty | :02:09. | :02:14. | |
Dancing, Legally Blond or Ghost, for example. Now one of TV's top | :02:14. | :02:19. | |
comedy writers has gone back to the 1950s to adapt one of British | :02:19. | :02:23. | |
cinema's all-time greats for the stage. Written by William Rose and | :02:23. | :02:27. | |
directed by Alexander Mackendrick, the Ladykillers is one of the best- | :02:27. | :02:31. | |
loved British comedy films of all time. Alec Guiness, Cecil Parker | :02:31. | :02:36. | |
and Peter Sellers form part of a motley crew of criminals who pose | :02:36. | :02:39. | |
as classical musicians in order to rent a room from an apparently | :02:39. | :02:49. | |
dotty landlady. I thought you and your guests might like a cup of tea. | :02:49. | :02:54. | |
Oh, you shouldn't. Now a writer renowned for his eccentric | :02:54. | :02:58. | |
characters, the creator of Father Ted and the The IT Crowd, Graham | :02:58. | :03:01. | |
Lineham has written a new version of the black comedy. The film is | :03:01. | :03:09. | |
very lean and very - it tells the story and it tells a very simple | :03:09. | :03:16. | |
story very effectively, and it kind of gets out, but with the play, | :03:16. | :03:20. | |
once I had lost all the location stuff, it left me with a lot more | :03:20. | :03:23. | |
room to play around with these characters, because you'll notice | :03:23. | :03:26. | |
in the film there's all of these great comic actors playing the | :03:26. | :03:30. | |
roles of Harry and the Major and so on, but they don't actually get a | :03:30. | :03:40. | |
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Mrs Wilberforce? Yes. My name is Marcus. I believe you have rooms to | :03:50. | :03:59. | |
rent. What? Who told you? Director Sean Foley's cast includes TV stars | :03:59. | :04:05. | |
James Fleet and Ben Miller with Peter Capaldi as the brains behind | :04:05. | :04:08. | |
this. There is such affection in the show. There is such a warm | :04:08. | :04:18. | |
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tribute to the original material. Oliver -- all of us come here with | :04:18. | :04:22. | |
great respect and are trying to make a new, warm version of the | :04:22. | :04:29. | |
same thing that people can embrace. It's a brave move to adapt a film | :04:29. | :04:36. | |
often cited as one of our finest classics, so can Lynne Han's | :04:36. | :04:39. | |
version equal the standards of the original film, or would it be | :04:39. | :04:44. | |
better left undisturbed as a gem of the silver screen. You have been | :04:44. | :04:49. | |
dishonest with me, professor. All of you have. You're not amateur | :04:49. | :04:54. | |
musicians! Now, Mark, we know Graham Lineham clearly relishes | :04:54. | :04:58. | |
eccentricity if we look at the work he's done with Father Ted and The | :04:58. | :05:02. | |
IT Crowd, so in a way perhaps it's not surprising he was drawn to this. | :05:02. | :05:06. | |
No, because the characters are so extreme, exciting and quirky and | :05:06. | :05:11. | |
odd that, yes, this is really his natural palette, if you like. | :05:11. | :05:14. | |
What's brilliant about it, I think - because the show is great. I | :05:14. | :05:17. | |
think what's really interesting about it in terms of his writing | :05:17. | :05:22. | |
and in terms of directing is they've stripped out the suspense | :05:22. | :05:25. | |
element because we know what's going to happen, so they have | :05:25. | :05:28. | |
stripped out the suspense. They have stripped out the idea of | :05:28. | :05:32. | |
what's going to happen next, and it means the actors can just play, and | :05:32. | :05:38. | |
they have created almost a farce this wonderful slapstick adaptation | :05:38. | :05:42. | |
of the Ladykillers that exists in its own right. It's great. But then | :05:42. | :05:45. | |
if you strip out the suspense, isn't there a risk there isn't the | :05:46. | :05:50. | |
same kind of excitement about it? loved the original film. I don't | :05:50. | :05:54. | |
know if I was excited by it. No, it's a beautiful character piece. | :05:54. | :05:58. | |
You've got a fantastic cast. They're clearly working | :05:58. | :06:02. | |
extraordinarily well together and having fun in a good and not self- | :06:02. | :06:06. | |
indulgent way, and you've got this extraordinary staging. Michael | :06:06. | :06:08. | |
Taylor's set is remarkable, and what's happening more and more - | :06:09. | :06:15. | |
you have Scott Penrose, a magician, is bringing in magical effects, so | :06:15. | :06:19. | |
the actors are doing things you would expect a magician to do. Pen | :06:19. | :06:24. | |
and teller are working in the theatre. Now Andy Wyman has been | :06:24. | :06:29. | |
working in the theatre. It's very generous. I love going to see | :06:29. | :06:33. | |
something that's funny and you get the verbal humour, the slapstick | :06:33. | :06:38. | |
humour, the remarkable staging. You just get extra and extra. The | :06:38. | :06:41. | |
curtain call is immaculate. It's going to run. You're going to take | :06:41. | :06:45. | |
your mother to see it, the kids to see it, people to see it on | :06:45. | :06:51. | |
holidays. It's a lovely show. Capaldi in particular is having fun, | :06:51. | :06:56. | |
isn't he? I think he's having fun in the role. When we saw him | :06:56. | :06:59. | |
talking about playing the role, my skin was beginning to creep because | :06:59. | :07:03. | |
he gets in you're blood. When he comes on, he has a leering presence. | :07:03. | :07:08. | |
His body is so angular. His body is too big for him all the time, just | :07:08. | :07:13. | |
as he thinks he's too big for his boots. "I am a very clever man," he | :07:13. | :07:19. | |
says at one point as he gets stuck in the window with a cello case | :07:19. | :07:23. | |
that fantastic comedy, but underneath it, there has to be a | :07:23. | :07:26. | |
dark side to the Ladykillers. I wondered with the slapstick how | :07:26. | :07:33. | |
they were going to do that moment when you believe he's prepared to | :07:33. | :07:37. | |
have her killed. He does that perfectly. It is dark. They have | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
stripped out a lot of the sinister elements. If you look at the | :07:41. | :07:45. | |
original film, the lighting, the way they're in that room which is | :07:45. | :07:49. | |
sinister and expressionist, you get that - Alec Guiness is brilliant | :07:49. | :07:52. | |
because you really think he can do some damage. There is one scene | :07:52. | :07:56. | |
where they're having the fight at the end in the film where he | :07:56. | :07:59. | |
emerges out of the smoke from the trains holding this club, and it's | :07:59. | :08:03. | |
just amazing. It really is quite an amazing moment. They have stripped | :08:03. | :08:06. | |
that out. I think they have taken the suspense out. I think they have | :08:06. | :08:11. | |
taken a lot of the menace out in a way, but that doesn't matter. In | :08:11. | :08:15. | |
many ways it doesn't, because the actual direction - I think Sean | :08:15. | :08:18. | |
Foley really deserves major league credit for this because he's got | :08:18. | :08:20. | |
his fingerprints all over this production. I think it's absolutely | :08:20. | :08:24. | |
brilliant. What they've done is just allowed them - Graham is right. | :08:24. | :08:29. | |
What they've done is allowed them room to play. But the spiritual - | :08:29. | :08:32. | |
or indeed the presence of Alec Guiness looms large, doesn't it, | :08:32. | :08:37. | |
over any future production? Very much. His voice in the film - | :08:37. | :08:42. | |
absolutely sensational. The look he went for - it was a hair-and-teeth | :08:42. | :08:45. | |
part, extraordinary. Peter Capaldi does that. I was worried when he | :08:45. | :08:48. | |
first came on he hadn't got far enough away from Peter Capaldi. He | :08:48. | :08:53. | |
had hair and teeth and gone for the scarf and the long coat as well. I | :08:53. | :08:57. | |
felt with Alec Guiness in the film, what you got was parts that grew | :08:57. | :09:01. | |
and developed. And I felt with Peter Capaldi, even though I loved | :09:01. | :09:04. | |
the show, I felt with Peter Capaldi he came on menacing, leering. For | :09:04. | :09:10. | |
me he was like the hooded claw out of Wacky Racers. He was a cartoon | :09:10. | :09:16. | |
from the beginning. The other four are cartoon characters. I felt they | :09:16. | :09:19. | |
were more subtle. Their characters grew, whereas Peter Capaldi was one | :09:19. | :09:23. | |
note all the way through. Alison? He'll come into it because he's | :09:23. | :09:28. | |
really authority it ative with the audience. They're doing a lot of | :09:28. | :09:32. | |
difficult business and physical stuff. I imagine that set is so | :09:32. | :09:36. | |
raked, you could really easily snap an ankle if you're not careful, but | :09:36. | :09:40. | |
when it settles, it will really... I loved all the slapstick and the | :09:40. | :09:45. | |
stuff with the black board. It's puerile but sensational. I wondered | :09:45. | :09:51. | |
if that distracted from what he was doing. The film in its time, which | :09:51. | :09:55. | |
was seen as a social commentary, a state of the nation - they could | :09:55. | :10:00. | |
have updated this. The original film - there is a wonderful shot at | :10:00. | :10:03. | |
the beginning where Ms Wilberforce walks through the street, and | :10:03. | :10:07. | |
there's picture of Churchill and a picture of a tramp next to him | :10:07. | :10:11. | |
begging. That sets the tone of this is Britain after its finest hour, | :10:11. | :10:17. | |
and here we are. We've come to this. They're too hung up on the film, | :10:17. | :10:21. | |
which I watched in a haze on Boxing Day many years ago - I recognise | :10:21. | :10:26. | |
it's very good. It wasn't in the forefront of my mind. I was one of | :10:26. | :10:30. | |
those theatregoers if you like. The person who missed out on this - it | :10:31. | :10:36. | |
really makes this social commentary very well is Mrs Wilberforce. | :10:36. | :10:39. | |
Marcia Warren. Yes, controlling brilliantly the part of the old | :10:39. | :10:43. | |
lady. She's still the centre of this play around which this all | :10:43. | :10:47. | |
evolves. If you don't believe in her and the fact she's the little | :10:47. | :10:50. | |
voice of morality at a time everyone is exhausted after the war. | :10:50. | :10:53. | |
People are taking their chances. You have a society that is | :10:53. | :10:57. | |
fragmenting after the war has held it together - you really have to | :10:57. | :11:02. | |
believe in her. She did that downplayed in a way Peter Capaldi | :11:02. | :11:06. | |
didn't. In fact it's extraordinary the way she does manage to be the | :11:06. | :11:09. | |
focus of attention so much throughout the pay. I enjoyed it, | :11:09. | :11:12. | |
like all of you I think. The Ladykillers is at the Gielgud | :11:12. | :11:14. | |
Theatre until April. Far more serious and tragic events behind | :11:15. | :11:17. | |
closed doors in a new documentary from filmmaker Carol Morley. The | :11:17. | :11:20. | |
story began in January 2006, when decomposing human remains were | :11:20. | :11:30. | |
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found in a bedsit in north London. Officials from a housing | :11:31. | :11:34. | |
association discovered the remains of 38-year-old Joyce Carol Vincent. | :11:35. | :11:38. | |
Her skeleton was surrounded by Christmas presents. The television | :11:38. | :11:46. | |
was still on three years since her her missing. Newspapers offered few | :11:46. | :11:49. | |
details about the case, but the story caught the eye of documentary | :11:49. | :11:54. | |
film-maker Carol Morley. I remember being on the tube, finding The Sun, | :11:54. | :12:00. | |
looking through the Sun and finding this head line, "Woman is dead in | :12:00. | :12:06. | |
plait for three years", and when I read that head line, it was so | :12:06. | :12:11. | |
extreme, really, I suppose, and there was no photograph of Joyce, | :12:11. | :12:15. | |
no personal information. She was so anonymous, and I think as soon as I | :12:15. | :12:19. | |
saw the head line, I wanted to tell the story, and I wanted to make a | :12:19. | :12:24. | |
film about it and find out about her. It's like she never really | :12:24. | :12:29. | |
existed. She was just a figment of our imagination. It was a story. It | :12:29. | :12:34. | |
was like someone we made up almost. Someone died that we all thought we | :12:35. | :12:38. | |
cared about. If you read that in a book form, you would be thinking, | :12:38. | :12:44. | |
this has got to be fiction, but this is real life. The debate about | :12:44. | :12:47. | |
being living in dislocated societies, not having communities | :12:47. | :12:51. | |
anymore has been banging on for ages. It's been a theory. This is | :12:51. | :12:55. | |
the living reality about it. often thought about what she was | :12:55. | :12:59. | |
doing and probably most of the time I actually thought that she was | :12:59. | :13:02. | |
already dead. Carol Morley spent five years track down her friends | :13:02. | :13:06. | |
and former colleagues and managed to piece together a time line of | :13:06. | :13:10. | |
her life in London. She then uses this information to script | :13:10. | :13:16. | |
reconstructions with the actress Zoe Ashton portraying Joyce. The | :13:16. | :13:19. | |
circumstances of Joyce Carol Vincent's enigmatic life and tragic | :13:19. | :13:27. | |
death shock because they're so rare, but does her story highlight wider | :13:27. | :13:31. | |
issues in this story? Why did this happen? Perhaps we could ask | :13:31. | :13:36. | |
ourselves why doesn't this happen more often? Especially in urban | :13:36. | :13:40. | |
areas we can become anonymous. It's the joy of a city, but also the | :13:40. | :13:44. | |
downfall of a city. Dreams of a Life attempts to piece together a | :13:44. | :13:51. | |
story with many gaps. Does her death make the film more of a | :13:51. | :13:59. | |
mystery or make the story Margerie, this is an intriguing | :13:59. | :14:03. | |
story. She doesn't seem to be the kind of person you would expect to | :14:03. | :14:08. | |
fall through the cracks. That was the starting point for me, surprise. | :14:08. | :14:12. | |
When you read that story, you would possibly think it was somebody who | :14:12. | :14:15. | |
hadn't had a great life and had fallen through the holes but it | :14:15. | :14:18. | |
wasn't like that. She was a bit of a drifter but also rather | :14:18. | :14:26. | |
unglamorous figure, on a fast set... -- a glamourous figure. Getting in | :14:26. | :14:31. | |
with the PR crowd. That, I suppose, is what must have been the starting | :14:32. | :14:38. | |
point, that we are supposed to be surprised. What worries me is that | :14:38. | :14:43. | |
is -- it is extremely voyeuristic and in that way and pleasant. If it | :14:43. | :14:48. | |
set out to do a service and tell a story, it is wide of the mark. It | :14:48. | :14:53. | |
was journalistically not a good film. A big draw you win? Of the | :14:53. | :14:59. | |
things we have watched, it was the most memorable, but because of the | :14:59. | :15:03. | |
frustrations. Carol Morley spent five years tracking people down, | :15:03. | :15:09. | |
but you don't see any of these people. They are a small handful of | :15:09. | :15:13. | |
friends that near her early on. You don't meet the family. She must | :15:13. | :15:18. | |
have spoken to the family. Her mother died when she was 11 but her | :15:18. | :15:23. | |
father and three sisters were still alive when she died. No mention of | :15:23. | :15:27. | |
them, other that they didn't want to talk. The Boyfriend, we hear | :15:27. | :15:31. | |
from again and again. She had dozens a boy friends that we hear | :15:31. | :15:38. | |
from double. The boy friends and the family of what shape to this | :15:38. | :15:42. | |
woman -- and we hear from two. The presumably, they wouldn't want to | :15:42. | :15:47. | |
appear in a film from -- like this? That is one of the failures. Why | :15:47. | :15:52. | |
does a woman ended three years dead in his flat? Really urgent | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
questions, and then it fails to answer any of them. You are right, | :15:57. | :16:00. | |
journalistically, it fails. It doesn't trace the family or talk to | :16:00. | :16:05. | |
them, or the immediate neighbours. It doesn't have any contact with | :16:05. | :16:09. | |
the Lord Taylor -- the utilities or the authorities. You are left with | :16:09. | :16:16. | |
gossip fulls -- from friends, former friends, and that is not | :16:16. | :16:23. | |
good enough. Is it fair to call it gossip? At least two were very | :16:23. | :16:28. | |
close, two were boy friends. don't think she is aiming for | :16:28. | :16:32. | |
journalistic, it is the way she was with her previous film, she is | :16:32. | :16:36. | |
interested in whether you can no people at all and she wants to | :16:36. | :16:40. | |
present you with people as if you are meeting them in a bar, how well | :16:40. | :16:48. | |
can you know strangers? I found it very moving when I watched it. I | :16:48. | :16:53. | |
think it opens up a lot of issues philosophically. I did think it is | :16:53. | :16:57. | |
tried to give you an essay or trying to investigate life in a | :16:57. | :17:02. | |
journalistic way. But it sets out like that, that is how it said said, | :17:02. | :17:07. | |
why did she fall through the gap? Why did this happen? -- that is how | :17:07. | :17:15. | |
it said said. It asks the questions. It is not come into a conclusions | :17:15. | :17:18. | |
are that respect, I didn't think it was telling me you are Red Four, | :17:18. | :17:22. | |
society is at fault. It was making Meikleour, and all of her friends | :17:22. | :17:28. | |
were, she was someone who made the choices -- it was making it clear. | :17:28. | :17:33. | |
We haven't it splayed about the use of the actors. -- discussed about | :17:33. | :17:40. | |
the use of the actors. Carol Morley is explaining what she thinks. | :17:40. | :17:44. | |
does use drama and reconstruction as a way of telling this. They are | :17:44. | :17:49. | |
just awful. I think so I Ashton does the best that she can. These | :17:49. | :17:54. | |
shots that are felt for three times as long as they should be. What is | :17:54. | :17:58. | |
happening is the film-maker is imposing a reality on this woman | :17:58. | :18:02. | |
because she cannot fill in the gaps and then asking somebody to try and | :18:02. | :18:07. | |
back to them out. The really crucial point here is that there is | :18:07. | :18:14. | |
bad imputation. There is imputation about child abuse, people just say | :18:14. | :18:21. | |
so extraordinary things that they eat grass bout of the air. -- grass | :18:21. | :18:29. | |
bout of the air. Your projected on to higher, because she was | :18:29. | :18:34. | |
mysterious and she is dead if -- you projected on to have. | :18:34. | :18:39. | |
appreciate what you are saying that, but I found that moving, opening | :18:39. | :18:42. | |
some present and realising there was a tie in one of those boxes. | :18:42. | :18:47. | |
She was giving a present to a man in her life he didn't notice she | :18:47. | :18:52. | |
was gone for three years. If you can't watch the end sequence | :18:52. | :18:58. | |
without being moved, you have got a heart of Formica. In it is not | :18:58. | :19:05. | |
saying it is a problem in society... It is blaming society and it has | :19:05. | :19:10. | |
this big society message. Like the bloke said in your clip, it goes to | :19:10. | :19:19. | |
show we should all be in a cabinet it. This is somebody who wants to... | :19:20. | :19:22. | |
You are in Boulder Channel 4 website project related to the film. | :19:22. | :19:30. | |
Do you think it says something wider about society? I saw some of | :19:30. | :19:33. | |
the talking heads and I found it very interesting and right now, in | :19:33. | :19:37. | |
a very material time, when people are working like hell or been | :19:37. | :19:41. | |
unemployed like hell, that somebody... How long would it be | :19:41. | :19:45. | |
until somebody noticed you were dead? Are you going to notice you | :19:46. | :19:49. | |
would stop? Are you living in a way it is meaningful, are you telling | :19:50. | :19:55. | |
people you love them? One of the things I thought about was that she | :19:55. | :20:01. | |
wasn't somebody who was neglected per save. She had withdrawn. She | :20:01. | :20:06. | |
had decided to hide. The projection she was able to give to all of her | :20:06. | :20:09. | |
friends, she was terribly beautiful and every man wanted to go out with | :20:09. | :20:12. | |
her, she was successful and had a job in the City but something had | :20:12. | :20:17. | |
gone on in her past that was completely shaping the way she made | :20:17. | :20:21. | |
relationships. Dreams Of A Life is in selected cinemas from next | :20:21. | :20:26. | |
Friday. Now, what to Mary Queen of Scots, | :20:26. | :20:29. | |
Dolly the sheep and Susan Boyle have in common? I will tell you | :20:29. | :20:36. | |
before you tweet any suggestions? - -. They are three people on the | :20:36. | :20:40. | |
walls of the oldest purpose-built gallery dedicated to the portrait, | :20:40. | :20:43. | |
which has recently undergone a dramatic facelift. | :20:43. | :20:47. | |
The Scottish National Portrait Gallery houses the second largest | :20:47. | :20:53. | |
collection of portraits in the world. Four other 120 years, its | :20:53. | :20:58. | |
imposing neo-Gothic structure has sat in Edinburgh's New Town without | :20:58. | :21:02. | |
alteration. But over the past two years, a dramatic refit has | :21:02. | :21:06. | |
transformed the gallery's space. have revolutionised what we have | :21:06. | :21:11. | |
done inside. We have restored the building to its Victorian original, | :21:11. | :21:16. | |
much more space, the light floods in, and the pictures look fantastic. | :21:16. | :21:21. | |
In the past, in the room we are standing in now, we told the whole | :21:21. | :21:25. | |
history of Scotland from the 16th century up to the 18th century. Far | :21:25. | :21:29. | |
too much, far too complicated to get your head around. This has been | :21:29. | :21:33. | |
spread out in 28 different galleries, which means we can do | :21:33. | :21:37. | |
the opposite of dumbing down and look at subjects in greater detail | :21:37. | :21:41. | |
that make it more appealing to the general public. What we have got | :21:41. | :21:46. | |
our Portrait of the people who did amazing things. Each person on the | :21:46. | :21:50. | |
walls has a fabulous story to tell. The aim of the redesigned space is | :21:50. | :21:55. | |
to tell Scotland's story through 3 -- D batik displays that will | :21:55. | :22:01. | |
change over time. -- thematic. They go for the restoration right up to | :22:01. | :22:05. | |
the present day. This is a gallery about Scotland at the present as | :22:05. | :22:08. | |
well as the past. It is what makes Scotland the country it is today | :22:08. | :22:13. | |
and so as well as all the people you would expect like Mary, Queen | :22:13. | :22:17. | |
of Scots or David Hume, we have also got Karen Gillan, a Susan | :22:17. | :22:22. | |
Boyle, Kenny Dalglish. It is about Scotland today, informed by | :22:22. | :22:27. | |
Scotland of the past. The gallery also houses a new room which was | :22:27. | :22:29. | |
showcase some of the 38,000 photographs in the national | :22:29. | :22:34. | |
collection. What photography does is democratised the gallery. Before | :22:34. | :22:38. | |
we should, we did show photographs occasionally but it wasn't integral | :22:38. | :22:43. | |
to the displays. Now, they are absolutely central and I think the | :22:43. | :22:47. | |
whole product of what we are trying to present to the public is a very, | :22:47. | :22:53. | |
very much richer blend than we were able to do before. So does this | :22:53. | :22:59. | |
ambitious we decide on a grand old Scottish building did justice? | :22:59. | :23:03. | |
I know this building well from where I live in Edinburgh and I did | :23:03. | :23:08. | |
enjoy going there but it was always slightly gloomy. I know, you sort | :23:09. | :23:15. | |
of get distracted by the cake, it was warm and welcoming. It is dark | :23:15. | :23:20. | |
and then that it this -- that is light and welcoming. The first | :23:20. | :23:25. | |
thing you do is Scots that have done well. Are you got a hot Scot? | :23:25. | :23:31. | |
I have never been part in my life. -- are you not. It is not about we | :23:31. | :23:36. | |
are the finest, if you happen to be from here, it is nice to see people | :23:36. | :23:41. | |
who have done well, and if he was not, here we are, a small culture | :23:41. | :23:45. | |
and we present ourselves. Mark, you knew the old one. I love what they | :23:45. | :23:49. | |
have done there, they have transformed that Central Hall, | :23:50. | :23:55. | |
which is incredible. I remember going there and thinking it was | :23:55. | :24:00. | |
like Hogwarts, it was all done dusty, and they have opened up the | :24:00. | :24:03. | |
space and made this incredible opening Hall, the central part of | :24:03. | :24:07. | |
the building that just flourishes. The space is amazing that, they | :24:07. | :24:12. | |
have given... What they have done is created a really amazing it | :24:12. | :24:18. | |
gallery. So much thought has gone into it. It is not done strictly | :24:18. | :24:22. | |
chronologically, but the rooms are thematic, so you have the Jacobite | :24:22. | :24:27. | |
but not just the Jacobites, it is the Jacobite in exile. Actually, | :24:27. | :24:31. | |
there is a bit of chronology. The way they took us around, anyway, | :24:31. | :24:36. | |
and they started us off at 1,500 with their first Portrait, and then | :24:36. | :24:41. | |
you saw Mary, Queen of Scots -- 1,500. The Jacobites, I walked in | :24:41. | :24:45. | |
and I thought it is a bit hysterical and I never studied this | :24:45. | :24:50. | |
but you can clearly see how important that gallery is. We were | :24:50. | :24:55. | |
taken around by a photographer- curator, he was very keen to get us | :24:55. | :24:59. | |
there and that is when the gallery came to life. A lot of these | :24:59. | :25:03. | |
paintings, you will have seen that before, and when you get to the | :25:03. | :25:10. | |
photographs, you are met with these extremely -- met with this extreme | :25:10. | :25:15. | |
where everything has gone and you start this romantic journey through | :25:15. | :25:19. | |
extraordinary Scottish landscapes which then taking into the urban | :25:19. | :25:23. | |
centre of Edinburgh and Glasgow. You're right, the photographs are | :25:23. | :25:27. | |
just stunning. That is where the gallery really kicks in. You get | :25:27. | :25:33. | |
this amazing sense of Scottishness, of it really is an assured -- | :25:33. | :25:39. | |
National Gallery of Scotland and tells her history. It's a cultural | :25:39. | :25:49. | |
:25:49. | :25:49. | ||
interpretation. That is really exciting. It is such a clear | :25:49. | :25:56. | |
expression of Scottish nationhood, it is very interesting watching the | :25:56. | :25:59. | |
effect that galleries and collections can have on countries | :25:59. | :26:03. | |
that are trying to do something different. I have just seen a lot | :26:03. | :26:11. | |
of emerging countries do that. In the context, it is fascinating. I | :26:11. | :26:16. | |
was riveted by the very miserable picture of James the 6th, or James | :26:16. | :26:20. | |
the first, whichever way you look at it Kebabou I thought that would | :26:20. | :26:26. | |
be going on to campaign posters. -- and I thought. It cannot be called | :26:26. | :26:31. | |
nationalistic, though. Not at all. They are under 10 she would get if | :26:31. | :26:34. | |
you knew the history, like the romantic Camera exhibition -- | :26:35. | :26:39. | |
undertones. You get more and more people and you end with that | :26:39. | :26:42. | |
beautiful, vibrant picture of a ball of the people being properly | :26:42. | :26:48. | |
it. The Glasgow town hall Christmas party, which is just people having | :26:48. | :26:53. | |
a wonderful time and being alive. But it is not nationalistic or | :26:53. | :26:58. | |
stupid. There is a real sense of ownership, which was really | :26:58. | :27:02. | |
interesting. While we were there, people came in and said, we are | :27:03. | :27:08. | |
read this and were pointing at one of the films. -- we are in this. | :27:09. | :27:13. | |
There is a real sense of ownership and it raises, actually, an | :27:13. | :27:17. | |
interesting question. It is kind of like the artistic version of the | :27:17. | :27:21. | |
West Lothian question. If the Scottish National Gallery has so | :27:21. | :27:25. | |
much about Scottish national identity and the National Gallery | :27:25. | :27:29. | |
in London is so much about being British, where is the English | :27:29. | :27:34. | |
National Gallery? On that enormous note, we will leave this part of | :27:34. | :27:37. | |
the discussion, because that could take a very long time to answer | :27:37. | :27:42. | |
that question. Now, deny it as you might, | :27:42. | :27:45. | |
Christmas will soon be upon us and it wouldn't be Christmas without | :27:45. | :27:49. | |
the star studied television adaptation of a popular classic. | :27:49. | :27:54. | |
This year's BBC One centrepiece is one of Charles Dickens'best-loved | :27:54. | :27:58. | |
books, Great expectations. The novels of Charles Dickens are | :27:58. | :28:03. | |
no strangers to the TV adaptation. Over the decades, many of his | :28:03. | :28:07. | |
players -- most famous works have to be translated to the small | :28:07. | :28:11. | |
screen and Great Expectations is a firm favourite. It first appeared | :28:11. | :28:15. | |
on the BBC in 1959, at nearly every decade since, a new variation has | :28:15. | :28:21. | |
been made. Where is your mother? Sarah Phelps, who cut her teeth of | :28:21. | :28:25. | |
EastEnders, is the latest writer to tackle this classic tale of | :28:25. | :28:31. | |
transformation. Oscar Kennedy plays the young the Pip, Ray Winston | :28:31. | :28:36. | |
gives a bruising performance as Magwitch. And the X Files Gillian | :28:36. | :28:46. | |
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Anderson offers a ghostly Miss You're Pip from the Forge. Yes, | :28:54. | :29:01. | |
madam. I am not madam. I am not married. After years in his uncle's | :29:01. | :29:08. | |
forge, pip is informed by Jagers, played by David Gibbs that he's to | :29:08. | :29:15. | |
be transformed into a gentleman. The owner wants Mr Pirip to be | :29:15. | :29:20. | |
removed from his present life and go to London where he is to be | :29:20. | :29:24. | |
instructed in the ways and manners of society, where he is to live the | :29:24. | :29:29. | |
life of a gentleman, where, in short, he is to live as a young | :29:29. | :29:37. | |
fellow of great expectations. Mean and moody cinematography of | :29:37. | :29:41. | |
the opening episode make much of the bleak setting. The production | :29:41. | :29:46. | |
values are certainly high, and it has a starry cast, but do we really | :29:46. | :29:53. | |
need yet another adaptation of this well-worn favourite? My food not | :29:53. | :29:57. | |
good enough for you? It's Christmas. If you can't beat a boy at | :29:57. | :30:01. | |
Christmas, when can you beat him? That's a fantastic line. We have | :30:01. | :30:04. | |
seen a lot of the Great Expectationss over the years. Do we | :30:04. | :30:07. | |
need another? Yes, please. I thoroughly enjoyed this. It was | :30:07. | :30:11. | |
terrific. The last one I saw was that updated one - Alfonso Cuaron - | :30:11. | :30:16. | |
that was '98. I hadn't seen one for awhile. Knowing this was going to | :30:16. | :30:20. | |
have Gillian Anderson again, who was Lady Deadlock in that amazing | :30:20. | :30:24. | |
Bleak House bleak - I put the DVD in. I was worried at first because | :30:24. | :30:28. | |
the Bleak House was done in half- hour episodes, wasn't it, and it | :30:28. | :30:31. | |
was very short, tight scenes. It was done like a serial. I thought | :30:31. | :30:37. | |
this was the way forward... Going back to Dickens'... Yes, the way | :30:37. | :30:41. | |
Dickens had done it. They have reverted to the conventional style. | :30:41. | :30:45. | |
The scene everybody knows in the graveyard, young Pip is there. The | :30:45. | :30:50. | |
gloom is there. The mist is there. It's washed out when it starts, | :30:50. | :30:53. | |
then teeny bits of colour come in. You see a little bit of blood, a | :30:53. | :30:58. | |
little bit of pie. The bleakness of the landscape and the way it was | :30:58. | :31:01. | |
filmed - there is a brilliant opening where you get a shot across | :31:01. | :31:06. | |
the river and the prison ships and suddenly Ray Winstone's head comes | :31:06. | :31:10. | |
out of the water. It's a nod to apocalypse. There are some great, | :31:10. | :31:14. | |
great moments in it. I think there are some really good actors, but Ms | :31:14. | :31:22. | |
Haver sham is just not good. she's great. She had a bit of Kate | :31:22. | :31:27. | |
Bush in Wuthering Heights. I love it because apart from anything else | :31:27. | :31:30. | |
she's George V Bridge in a petticoat. She stands in front of a | :31:30. | :31:36. | |
young boy and says, here's your future. It's shiny. Oh, I'm sorry. | :31:36. | :31:40. | |
You're condemned to hell forever. Go and write - no, it's grand. It's | :31:40. | :31:47. | |
her speciality now. I adored her. It was a great story of social | :31:47. | :31:50. | |
mobility whether or not George Osborne took it away. She's awful | :31:50. | :31:55. | |
in it. It's such a shame because it's motoring along so beautifully, | :31:55. | :31:59. | |
and Pip that boy actor, your heart is going out to him. You just want | :31:59. | :32:04. | |
to go in and rescue him from his surroundings. Then he comes in - | :32:04. | :32:11. | |
it's like a Kate Bush B side then a goth in a basket look about the | :32:11. | :32:16. | |
whole costume. They have gone too far and over-stylised her. That's | :32:16. | :32:20. | |
not her fault but she has this vacant look on her face. The thing | :32:20. | :32:26. | |
about her is, she's such a manipulative creation, you think, | :32:26. | :32:31. | |
which dark depths of Dickens' mind did she come from? It's like having | :32:31. | :32:37. | |
a 33 RPM record played all the time. She slows the whole thing all the | :32:37. | :32:41. | |
time. What about the interpretation of Pip because he can be incredibly | :32:41. | :32:46. | |
bland, the innocent - just a cipher. It's interesting because we have | :32:46. | :32:54. | |
only seen the first episode - it was an hour long. AL Kennedy played | :32:54. | :32:58. | |
the young Pip. I thought he was terrific, not only soaking up | :32:58. | :33:02. | |
everything around him, but he had a personality as well, which often | :33:02. | :33:10. | |
doesn't come out. We then saw old Pip. I thought it's boy George - he | :33:10. | :33:15. | |
hasn't done a lot as of yet. Whether he turns out to be as good | :33:15. | :33:21. | |
we'll have to see. When you look at the span of them over time, do you | :33:21. | :33:24. | |
think this tells us something about our own age? Absolutely. When you | :33:24. | :33:30. | |
look at the '60s and '70s when everything seemed to be evening out, | :33:30. | :33:36. | |
you had the cozy Dickenses. Now we're going back there in so many | :33:36. | :33:39. | |
ways. It's not an anachronistic bleakness, but particularly in the | :33:39. | :33:44. | |
first episode you're looking at everything slightly from young | :33:44. | :33:48. | |
Pip's viewpoint. Everything is huge and threatening. You have no | :33:48. | :33:51. | |
expectations, genuinely savage. That's where a lot of children are | :33:51. | :33:56. | |
living. The question you asked in the beginning, do we need another | :33:56. | :34:00. | |
adaptation? No, we don't. This is good. It's fine, but it's a period | :34:00. | :34:05. | |
drama served up every Christmas with some kind of regularity... | :34:05. | :34:10. | |
can't we have one now? Dickens... It's a part of Christmas | :34:10. | :34:15. | |
in the end... Which he'll not put - for heaven's sake - the | :34:15. | :34:18. | |
anniversary... There is a coo curious thing about why we like | :34:18. | :34:20. | |
Dickens - the English in particular like Dickens because he represents | :34:20. | :34:24. | |
- the English people or the middle class English like the Conservative | :34:24. | :34:32. | |
radical. That's why we like Stephen Fry and his lot. Ann? I don't agree | :34:32. | :34:37. | |
with that at all. If you look at what they're doing here, they're | :34:37. | :34:41. | |
taking this idea of social mobility, we're all banging on about in one | :34:41. | :34:46. | |
way or another and touched on a bit tonight and focusing on that they | :34:46. | :34:50. | |
have been raised up and the difference of being raised up and | :34:50. | :34:55. | |
cast down into poverty, and it's so brilliantly laid out, it's faithful | :34:55. | :34:59. | |
to the story. I think in a very subtle way it's referring to | :34:59. | :35:03. | |
concerns we have in society today, but it's not done with a | :35:03. | :35:07. | |
sledgehammer. That's the clever thing about it. Sarah Fox has done | :35:07. | :35:12. | |
a clever thing in leaning on things. She's upped the stakes in a really | :35:12. | :35:17. | |
nice way. You can see whether you think it's about the big society. | :35:17. | :35:21. | |
Great Expectations is on BBC One over three nights from December 27. | :35:21. | :35:24. | |
Monday night saw the presentation of the Turner Prize, and for the | :35:24. | :35:30. | |
third year in a row, the winner emerged from here in Glasgow. We | :35:30. | :35:34. | |
asked art critic Moira Geoffrey what it is about the place that's | :35:34. | :35:38. | |
led to such artistic prominence. someone who lives in Glasgow and | :35:38. | :35:44. | |
writes about art for a living, I asked why the city produces so many | :35:44. | :35:49. | |
Turner Prize winners. The winner for the 2011 Turner Prize, Martin | :35:49. | :35:52. | |
Boyce. With Martin Boyce's win this week, the last three successive | :35:52. | :35:56. | |
winners have been brought up or educated in the city. The questions | :35:56. | :36:01. | |
on Monday night at the ceremony in Gateshead tended to run to, is | :36:01. | :36:05. | |
there something in the water? I am not sure about that but there might | :36:05. | :36:09. | |
be something in this institution - Charles Dicken's Glasgow School of | :36:09. | :36:12. | |
Art where many of Turner Prize's successes have trained. The | :36:13. | :36:18. | |
building itself may be a radical masterpiece that's inspired many | :36:18. | :36:22. | |
Glasgow artists. It's not so much the bricks and mortar that matter | :36:22. | :36:28. | |
as the people inside - the teachers and peers in the city who Martin | :36:28. | :36:31. | |
Boyce mentioned in his acceptance speech. It's worth remembering the | :36:31. | :36:35. | |
artists who reach the Turner Prize now are usually in their 40s. | :36:35. | :36:39. | |
They're the product of an affordable higher education that | :36:39. | :36:44. | |
might be denied to future generations of artists. On the | :36:44. | :36:48. | |
other hand, it might be something about this building here. This is | :36:48. | :36:51. | |
the Modern Institute, the commercial institute that | :36:51. | :37:01. | |
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represents both boys and the winner in 2009. | :37:02. | :37:07. | |
The current Glasgow art scene is diverse and can't be reduced to a | :37:07. | :37:10. | |
single building, movement or style - as well as international prize | :37:10. | :37:15. | |
winners, there are dozens of lesser-known artists dedicated to | :37:15. | :37:23. | |
their practising. It's at this bridge over the River Clyde that | :37:23. | :37:29. | |
Susan Phillips cited her prize- winning Lowlands Valley in 2010. | :37:29. | :37:37. | |
Her rendition of a melancholy seaman's ballad marks her Glasgow | :37:37. | :37:40. | |
roots. One of the great things about this city is the river that | :37:40. | :37:47. | |
runs through it. This is a Victorian mercantile city whose | :37:47. | :37:50. | |
products have flowed ever outwards. There is maybe something in that | :37:50. | :37:54. | |
water after all. I can tell you the water didn't look calm like that | :37:54. | :37:58. | |
last night with all the winds. Thanks to my guests tonight, Mark, | :37:58. | :38:02. | |
Alison and the other Mark. Next week, it's the final Review Show of | :38:02. | :38:07. | |
the year, and Kirsty is going to be joined around the Christmas tree by | :38:07. | :38:13. | |
Natalie Hanes, Susan Hitch and Paul morally to look back at the year's | :38:13. | :38:18. | |
highlights. The Divine Heady will be live, and | :38:18. | :38:23. | |
there is even a brass band. Don't say we never push the boat out. | :38:23. | :38:29. | |
Tonight's music comes courtesy of James Dean Bradfield of the Manic | :38:29. | :38:33. | |
Street Preachers, whose complete catalogue has just been released. | :38:33. | :38:43. | |
:38:43. | :39:09. | ||
He's playing Motorcycle of # Culture sucks down words | :39:09. | :39:12. | |
# Itemise loathing and feed yourself smiles | :39:12. | :39:18. | |
# Organise your safe tribal war # Hurt, maim, kill and enslave the | :39:18. | :39:23. | |
ghetto # Each day living out a lie | :39:23. | :39:33. | |
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# Life sold cheaply forever - ever, ever | :39:35. | :39:43. | |
# Under neon loneliness motorcycle emptiness | :39:43. | :39:52. | |
# Under neon loneliness # Motorcycle emptiness | :39:52. | :40:00. | |
# Life lies a slow suicide # Orthodox dreams and symbolic | :40:00. | :40:09. | |
myths # From feudal serf to splendour | :40:09. | :40:19. | |
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# This wonderful world of purchase power | :40:24. | :40:34. | |
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# Just like lungs sucking air # Survival's natural as sorrow, | :40:38. | :40:48. | |
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sorrow, sorrow # Under neon loneliness, motorcycle | :40:50. | :41:00. | |
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emptiness # Under neon loneliness, motorcycle | :41:04. | :41:11. |