Episode 7 Cherry


Episode 7

Cherry Healey meets women in very different financial situations, from a self-made millionaire to a woman on the breadline, as she tries to find out if cash can make us happy.


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MUSIC: "I Need A Dollar" by Aloe Blacc

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# I need a dollar, dollar

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# A dollar, that's what I need... #

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'We live in a world, driven by money.

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'Images of wealth are hugely seductive.

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'I want to find out what money means to women, in Britain, today.'

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# Hey, hey

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# Said I need a dollar, dollar

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# A dollar, that's what I need... #

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'OK, so the car's not really mine. But I can dream.'

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# Well, I need a dollar... #

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'So, I am meeting people from all walks of life.

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'To find out what it's like to be minted...'

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Oh!

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Is that a yacht jetty?

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# Dollar, dollar

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# A dollar, that's what I need... #

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'..how to live for free...'

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Eww, what is that?

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'..and what we're willing to do to get rich quick.'

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-I am going to bag me a rich boy, really.

-You will.

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You better watch out!

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MUSIC: "She Said" by Plan B

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Growing up, I think I had quite a comfortable childhood.

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I never really thought about money, I was in a bubble,

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I was protected from all of that. It was only much later in life

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when my parents got divorced, and their financial situation

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changed dramatically, that was when I really understood

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the power and impact money can have on your life,

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and it was quite scary, actually.

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MUSIC: "Price Tag" by Jessie J ft. B.o.B.

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'So, I am tackling my money demons head-on, by meeting other women

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'to understand our troubled relationship with cash.'

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# It's not about the money, money, money

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# We don't need your money, money, money... #

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'For me, that started at university.

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'I'm in North London for a trip down memory lane.'

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# Ain't about the

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# Cha-ching, cha-ching

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# Ain't about the... #

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I read this book.

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I don't think I remember anything it says, isn't that awful?

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I think I've just erased all the information that I learnt

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and replaced it with Grazia.

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Two eggs and chips, and a cup of tea.

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# Price tag... #

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It's so weird to think that it was ten years ago

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that I was a student and eating in places just like this

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because it was all I could afford.

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You know, egg and chips, £1.50.

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You know, as a student it's kind of your lifeline!

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'With loans and credit cards I ended up leaving college

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'with a £12,000 debt.

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'It may be tiny compared to what students today face,

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'but back then, it seemed enormous.' Thank you.

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It was a real shock when university finished

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and I worked out how bad my debt was.

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I think, during uni I just assumed somebody else would take care of it

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and I'd think about it another time.

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I just didn't give it much thought.

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It was a real shock when I realised that I had to pay that back

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and actually, the bank wants it back pretty quick.

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MUSIC: "Rich Girl" by Gwen Stefani ft. Eve

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'After uni, I had to work out how to support myself.

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'And for me, that meant the daily grind of nine to five.

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'But what's it like if you set your sights

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'on bagging a wealthy man instead?'

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# If I was a rich girl

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# Na na na na na na

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# See, I'd have all

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# The money in the world

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# If I was a wealthy girl. #

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'I'm in Coventry to meet a girl on a mission to get rich quick.'

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-Hello, nice to meet you.

-Ezma, nice to meet you.

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-Come in.

-Thanks so much.

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Why do you want money? What does money mean to you?

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I think money is so powerful, the word money is power.

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I think if you've got money everybody looks up to you.

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What's your kind of career path?

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Sort of to be a wag, maybe,

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but I don't mind if he's a footballer

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or if he's not, I just want someone who's got money,

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who can look after me and make me feel powerful.

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I want to be the lady of leisure -

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go out and spend money on myself,

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and I think you need money to do anything these days, really.

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So, what's the plan for tonight.

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Tonight, we're going to go out in Leamington, I think,

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because there's a few clubs there that we've heard

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that some football players will be going.

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'So, I'm getting into the spirit

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'and joining Ezma on the prowl for a rich man.'

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MUSIC: "Only Girl (In The World)" by Rihanna

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'First stop, the beauty salon, of course.

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'But I'm in for a surprise,

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'because Ezma doesn't stop at primping her hair and nails.'

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-Vajazzle.

-What's a vajazzle?

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Just to get you all ready to party!

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-What is a vajazzle?

-It's em...some gem's here,

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-we're going to have some gems put down here.

-In this area?

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Yes, this area.

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-The fanny area?

-Yes.

-THEY LAUGH

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It all happens before a night out.

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# Want you to make me feel

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# Like I'm the only girl

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# In the world

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# Like I'm the only one

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# That you'll ever love... #

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OK?

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-Ah!

-BEAUTICIAN LAUGHS

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Oh, my God!

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Wow!

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-That's amazing!

-You like?

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-Oh, my God!

-BEAUTICIAN LAUGHS

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'As well as the vajazzle,

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'Ezma prepares for a night out

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'with hair extensions, fake tan,

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'lashes

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'and nails. Total cost?

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'200 quid. Which means all of Ezma's wages from her office job

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'are invested on looking pretty for Mr Rich.'

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Do you have any rules of engagement?

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Like, "I won't sleep with you on the first night,

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"I won't kiss you," or are you pretty happy to go with the flow?

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I will always go to their house

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so I know, you know, that they have actually got money

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and it's not just an act.

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Then, if they still tick all the boxes,

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then yeah, if it's been a few dates or two dates

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then I will be happy to sleep with a guy.

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MUSIC: "Lipstick Powder And Paint" by Shakin' Stevens

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'With Ezma in charge of my make-up, I get five coats of bronzer

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'and a frosted lipstick to match the hot, pink nails.'

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Do you think you can ever wear too much make-up?

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No, I don't think you can ever wear too much make-up or too much tan.

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# Lipstick

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# Powder and paint

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# Is you is, or is you ain't... #

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Ah-ha-ha!

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-You ready?

-Yeah, I'm ready.

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I love it, I think it looks great. I think you look great!

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-I am going to bag me a rich boy, really.

-You will.

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You better watch out!

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MUSIC: "Let My Hair Down" by Nelly Furtado

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'To finish - the obligatory blonde extensions.'

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# Baby, I want to let my hair down

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# Baby, I want to let my hair down

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# Baby, I want to let my hair down

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# Bring me something that'll make me jump around. #

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'And, hey presto, I look like Jodie Marsh!'

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-Hello, come on in!

-ALL: Hi!

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'Before they hit the town, Ezma's friends

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'and self-confessed gold-diggers come over for a drink.'

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-Ta-da!

-ALL: Oh! Wow!

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GIRL: You look like a little Barbie doll! >

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GIRLS: Yey! Whoo!

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'Before heading out, they make a written plan of action.

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'And yes, they really do this!'

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We're deciding what we're looking for in a guy tonight,

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like, what they're drinking. We've put Cristal down.

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So, they've must be drinking Cristal, what else?

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They've got to look nice, groomed, what they're wearing, that sort.

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Big watch. Big, blingy watch.

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Can you scan a room and know whether people have got money or not?

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-Yeah.

-As soon as you walk in I think you can tell

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if the bar's got the spenders.

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It's kind of like a money-dar, like, a radar for money!

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-You sense it.

-You sense it when you walk in somewhere, you're like...

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You can smell the Queen's head, somewhere!

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-You can smell money?

-Definitely.

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We're so passionate about finding a guy with money

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who's going to look after us,

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that I definitely wouldn't settle for anything less.

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Do you think lots of girls want what you want?

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No matter how often they tell themselves,

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"I want to earn my own money," deep down they're thinking,

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"It would be great, not having to work for the rest of your life."

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Everyone wants to be pampered and brought shoes and clothes,

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and if they settle for less they're just putting it on themselves,

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they can do so much better, so do it.

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So, cheers to a good night, girls.

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-ALL: Whey-hey!

-Are you ready?

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-I'm ready!

-Let's do this.

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MUSIC: "Beautiful Dirty Rich" by Lady Gaga

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Bottoms up!

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# A cute life

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# Soundfematic

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# Pants tight

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# Tuggin' plastic

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# Honey

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# But we got no money... #

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They are focused.

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They walked in that bar and they scanned that room.

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There's no messing about, those girls know what they want.

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They were looking at the floor, looking at trainers,

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and wrists for expensive watches.

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They are highly, highly skilled.

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They can scan a room and instantly pick out whose got money.

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It's extraordinary.

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# Bang Bang

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# We're beautiful and dirty rich... #

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-WOMAN LAUGHS

-They're at work. They are at work!

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# We're beautiful and dirty rich... #

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Yeah!

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Whoo!

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-Oh, no thanks.

-Why, why not?

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Em, he definitely did not have

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the personality or the money.

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'Three hours and three clubs later

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'and there's no sight of Mr Moneybags!'

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DANCE MUSIC PLAYS

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'And I don't think they're going to find him in here!'

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# The lights

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# The lights

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# The lights, the lights, the lights... #

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Personally, I just don't think...

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that the people they're looking for

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are going to be in the places they're looking.

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Rich bankers and professional footballers,

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I just don't imagine are going to come to places like this.

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The girls have dressed up, made a real effort to come out...

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just, they're not in the right places.

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In a way, it's a shame they've spent so much of the evening

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looking for rich guys, when in fact,

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entertainment and enjoyable company is right there.

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They ARE entertaining and enjoyable company,

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they can afford their own drinks!

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DOORBELL RINGS

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Morning. How you feeling?

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OK.

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Oh! Thank you.

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'Who can blame Ezma for dreaming of a life of luxury?

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'But I'm worried that living off someone else's money could put you in a vulnerable position.'

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I imagine if a guy's paying for you, he'll want you at his beck and call,

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kind of be his slave, a little bit.

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Will you mind being that?

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No, I don't think I will mind. If I'm with him

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and I'm happy with what he's buying me in return, then,

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no, I won't mind.

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If you do sign up to this deal and you marry this rich guy,

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and you kind of fancy him but he's loaded, so that's OK,

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what are you going to do in the bedroom?

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Is that OK?

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Are you happy to do that?

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Are you happy to perform even though you only quite like him?

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If he's buying me nice things I think that takes over.

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You do, genuinely, start to like them

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because they're treating you and you feel like a princess,

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and you know they're going to look after you,

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so you're willing to let them.

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They're kind of in control, and taking you under their arm.

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Some women might say, women have fought for hundreds of years

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to get the vote and be able to work,

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and be independent and be empowered,

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and not need a man

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to dish out money when he feels like it.

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How would you respond to those women

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who might say to you, "Don't waste what we fought for?"

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If that's what they want to fight for, then they can,

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but I think it's the man's job to bring in the money

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and the girl's job to look nice.

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I have never met anyone so focused

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and so completely committed to money.

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It's extraordinary.

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I've never met anyone who would rather have money than love.

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I don't know,

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I just, I think she's selling herself short,

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but she really, really doesn't agree with me.

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She's literally crossing her fingers and hoping for the best

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but what if it doesn't happen?

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'I really hope that Ezma finds her prince charming

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'but I want to meet someone who's decided to make their own millions.'

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MUSIC: "We Have All The Time In The World" by Louis Armstrong

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'And where better to come

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'than the swanky Sandbanks area of Poole, in Dorset.

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'At £850 per square foot,

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'property here is more expensive than Tokyo or Paris.'

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-Hello!

-Hi!

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-Nice to meet you.

-And you.

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This is really beautiful.

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-Stunning here, isn't it? Lovely.

-It's amazing.

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What's allowed you to afford the champagne lifestyle?

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I'm an inventor, I invented My Carry Potty,

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it's the world's only leak-proof potty.

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Amazing, amazing!

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-You've made your money from potties?

-That's right.

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Is earning your own money as a woman important to you?

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Very important, very. Always since a child, since I was 14 I had a job.

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I've always wanted to have the lifestyle.

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I love all sorts of different, lovely things and I'm very girlie,

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and I know you're not going to get that from working for somebody else,

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and I'd never ever want to get it from marrying somebody with money.

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'Amanda lives with her husband

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'and three kids, in a beautiful, six-bedroom house.

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'But already she's got her eye on bigger properties in the area.'

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# I wanna be a billionaire

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# So frickin' bad

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# Buy all of the things

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# I never had. #

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'She's keen to show me one house in particular she's intent on buying.

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'Current value, eight million pounds.'

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Wow! Oh, my God!

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CHERRY GASPS

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Oh!

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-Amazing, isn't it?

-That is ridiculous.

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The view and everything - stunning.

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-Is that a yacht jetty?

-Yeah.

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Wow, how much do you think a kitchen like this would cost?

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I'd say a hundred thousand plus for a kitchen like this.

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-A hundred thousand pounds for a kitchen!

-Yeah.

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My goodness!

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-Wow!

-Oh, my goodness, that is absolutely amazing!

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Can you see me behind here, sipping my champagne?

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There is a lift here to all the floors.

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-There's a lift?!

-Yes.

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Oh, wow!

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-Look at this!

-Look! Amazing.

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-That is the house that potty built?

-Yes.

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Do you think having somewhere like this, would change you?

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No, no, not at all, it will just...

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you know, you'll get that amazing feeling inside

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that you've achieved it yourself by creating something from nothing,

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so, you know, it would not change me whatsoever.

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It'd make me very happy. I'm happy now, but this is just a lovely thing

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to wake up to every day and share with your friends and family.

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MUSIC: "Beyond The Sea" by Bobby Darin

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'So, she'll have a jetty.

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'Now all she needs is something to park there.'

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# Somewhere

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# Beyond the sea

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# Somewhere waitin' for me... #

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CHERRY GASPS

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Wow, this is amazing, isn't it?

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This is definitely not shopping for shoes.

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No, it's that little bit more expensive.

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Little bit more! How much is this boat?

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-£170,000.

-(£170,000!)

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It's all fun, it's all part of living your life and enjoying your money.

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'I am certainly impressed by Amanda's drive

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'but can this relentless quest for money

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'really make her fulfilled?'

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Do you think that this makes you happier,

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this wealth?

0:17:330:17:35

I would say money does definitely make you happy

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and there might be people out there going, "Oh, it doesn't, it doesn't,"

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but it makes me happy, and it makes my family happy.

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What have you had to sacrifice to get where you are today?

0:17:460:17:48

Being, probably, a full-time mum,

0:17:480:17:51

I found that quite difficult.

0:17:510:17:53

I've got three children

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and not being able to go to assemblies

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because I'm in London or in meetings, or away,

0:17:570:18:00

and I had to go away, like, five times last year

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and you constantly miss your children,

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and having to say goodbye to them.

0:18:060:18:09

So, that's a big sacrifice to me,

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is missing out on some of the things my children have done, definitely.

0:18:120:18:16

Do you think that it's been worth it?

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Yes, because I'm doing all this for my children.

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That's another reason for me to keep going.

0:18:220:18:25

Who's that? Who's that?

0:18:270:18:30

-Do you want to put monkey to bed?

-Yeah!

-Yeah?

0:18:300:18:33

I think Amanda is amazing,

0:18:330:18:36

and she is a real inspiration to women to earn their own money,

0:18:360:18:41

but...the fact that she's had to sacrifice time with her children

0:18:410:18:46

just shows you can't have it all,

0:18:460:18:49

and as a working mum myself, I really relate to that,

0:18:490:18:51

you can't have it all, you can't be the perfect, perfect mother

0:18:510:18:56

and the perfect woman in business.

0:18:560:18:59

It's really hard finding that balance

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and at the end of the day, something's got to give.

0:19:030:19:06

MUSIC: "Diamond Rings" by Chipmunk

0:19:060:19:09

'I may not be comfortable making the same sacrifices for money

0:19:090:19:13

'as Amanda has, but I want to know what it feels like

0:19:130:19:16

'to have her buying power.

0:19:160:19:18

'So, purely in the name of research, I am seeing what it's like

0:19:180:19:22

'to go clothes shopping, if money was no object.'

0:19:220:19:25

# I've been talkin'

0:19:250:19:26

# About my new diamond rings

0:19:260:19:28

# Because my new diamond rings

0:19:280:19:30

# There the... #

0:19:300:19:31

'Obviously, I'll have to give back my loot at the end of the day.

0:19:310:19:35

'But what does it feel like to pick up whatever I fancy?

0:19:350:19:39

'And how much can I spend?'

0:19:390:19:41

How much is that?

0:19:430:19:45

That's £6,320, please.

0:19:450:19:47

# I've been talkin'

0:19:500:19:52

# About my new diamond rings

0:19:520:19:53

# Because my new diamond rings

0:19:530:19:55

# They're the... #

0:19:550:19:57

Ooh, yeah!

0:19:580:20:00

'If money is a drug, then I think I'm getting high.'

0:20:000:20:03

I'm, like, in a shopping frenzy. I feel like I want everything,

0:20:040:20:08

I've gone really grabby!

0:20:080:20:10

I just want it all.

0:20:100:20:11

-Thank you! Bye-bye.

-Bye.

0:20:110:20:14

# I've been talkin'

0:20:150:20:16

# About my new diamond rings

0:20:160:20:18

# Because my new diamond rings

0:20:180:20:20

# They're the... #

0:20:200:20:21

-How much is the bag?

-It's £920.

0:20:220:20:25

I can definitely see myself with this bag, I mean this bag and me

0:20:250:20:29

we're like soul mates, we're meant to be together.

0:20:290:20:32

£2,610.

0:20:340:20:36

-Bag it up, baby.

-OK.

0:20:360:20:39

# And if you're looking at me

0:20:390:20:40

# You gonna be looking at them

0:20:400:20:42

# Cos they're the swagger

0:20:420:20:43

# That you see in my walk

0:20:430:20:45

# And if you're listening to me

0:20:450:20:47

# You gonna be listening to them

0:20:470:20:49

# Cos they're the slick

0:20:490:20:51

# That you hear in my talk

0:20:510:20:53

SINGS: I love it, and I love shopping, so much!

0:20:540:21:00

That'll be £2,455, please, OK?

0:21:020:21:04

# And if you're listening to me

0:21:080:21:09

# You gonna be listening to them

0:21:090:21:11

# Cos they're the slick

0:21:110:21:13

# That you hear in my talk

0:21:130:21:15

CHERRY SIGHS

0:21:150:21:18

So, I was only shopping for a few hours this morning

0:21:200:21:22

and I spent over ten grand.

0:21:220:21:25

And it was...so easy.

0:21:260:21:29

I didn't even feel like myself, I felt frenzied with desire.

0:21:290:21:34

And then when you get home

0:21:340:21:36

and you think, "Hang on a minute. Just calm down."

0:21:360:21:40

You do almost lose your mind,

0:21:400:21:43

the power of money does turn you a bit crazy, I think.

0:21:430:21:49

'So, now I've experienced money's drug-like high,

0:21:490:21:52

'I think I need a bit of a detox.

0:21:520:21:54

'One group of people who try to escape the money trap are freegans.

0:21:540:21:59

'It's an alternative lifestyle which favours

0:21:590:22:02

'community living, recycling and bartering.

0:22:020:22:05

'It's common for freegans to scavenge for food in bins.

0:22:050:22:08

'A practice that's called Dumpster Diving in the US

0:22:080:22:11

'and skipping in the UK.

0:22:110:22:13

'Now this, I have to see!'

0:22:130:22:15

'I've come into the heart of the city of London,

0:22:280:22:31

'to meet freegan, Katherine...'

0:22:310:22:33

-Hello!

-Hi, Cherry!

-Hi, Katherine.

-Nice to meet you.

0:22:330:22:36

'..who's going to give me a crash course in scavenging for food...

0:22:360:22:40

'out of rubbish.'

0:22:400:22:41

I'm a bit nervous, should I be nervous?

0:22:410:22:44

You're going to have to cope with what it's actually like

0:22:440:22:47

to be finding food that you might have to eat out of the bins,

0:22:470:22:50

which isn't always, it's not always that easy.

0:22:500:22:53

I found it difficult to start with to just get over that...

0:22:530:22:57

.. I think it's just, you know, it's evolutionary wired in

0:22:570:22:59

to think of garbage as garbage and not food,

0:22:590:23:02

and that's what's probably right,

0:23:020:23:04

but, I think when you see how much food there is being thrown away

0:23:040:23:09

that's what you'll find disgusting.

0:23:090:23:11

Do you know where to go and when to go?

0:23:110:23:14

Well, I've been doing this for quite a long time, so...

0:23:140:23:17

yeah, I guess I have a map

0:23:170:23:19

of where there are bins and shops that throw stuff out

0:23:190:23:24

and what time...

0:23:240:23:26

..and yeah, I think the first one is in about a few minutes.

0:23:260:23:29

Oh, my God, OK, well, let's go!

0:23:290:23:31

I wouldn't want to miss our first bin drop!

0:23:310:23:33

-No, quite right.

-I'll follow you.

0:23:330:23:35

Oh, God, here we go!

0:23:350:23:36

'Katherine squatted for two years

0:23:410:23:43

'but now lives in a rented flat in East London.

0:23:430:23:46

'But she still goes skipping nearly every day.'

0:23:460:23:48

'Just minutes into our mission

0:23:510:23:53

'and could this be our first taste of success?

0:23:530:23:56

'It's bin time outside an up-market bakery.'

0:23:560:23:59

Oh, God! It really is like actual rubbish,

0:23:590:24:01

-it's an actual...

-Rubbish bin, yeah.

0:24:010:24:04

..an actual...garbage area

0:24:040:24:08

or, if you're Katherine, it's a mountain of possibility.

0:24:080:24:12

Talk me through what we do here,

0:24:120:24:14

cos, it just looks like rubbish, to me.

0:24:140:24:16

OK, well, it's all rubbish and quite a lot of it is, like this.

0:24:160:24:19

GLASS CHINKS That's full of glass.

0:24:190:24:22

We're not interested in that.

0:24:220:24:23

You can feel it from the outside, feel that one...

0:24:230:24:26

RUSTLING

0:24:260:24:28

-..that feels like bread.

-That feels breaded.

0:24:280:24:30

Why don't you pick up that one and I'll pick up this one. CHERRY SQUEALS

0:24:300:24:35

-Go over here a bit.

-Oh, my God.

0:24:350:24:37

-Look. We've got loads of bread.

-My God! There's so much in here.

0:24:370:24:40

-Some gourmet mini croissants.

-Oh, my God, there's so much!

0:24:400:24:44

-Look.

-Mmm, yeah, that's not really a great sign.

0:24:440:24:47

-Mostly bread.

-Your bag looks much more delicious

0:24:470:24:50

-and there's no cleaning products in there.

-Yeah.

0:24:500:24:52

-My God, there's like...

-You've got, em... yeah.

0:24:520:24:55

-So will you just take some?

-Yeah.

0:24:550:24:57

'Since all these goods were on the shelves only minutes earlier,

0:24:570:25:01

'Katherine assures me I won't get food poisoning.'

0:25:010:25:04

CHERRY LAUGHS

0:25:040:25:08

This is so hilarious!

0:25:080:25:10

'Nearly £14 billion worth of food

0:25:140:25:16

'is thrown away each year, in the UK.

0:25:160:25:19

'As long as the rubbish is on the pavement,

0:25:190:25:21

'skipping is legal.

0:25:210:25:23

'But many food retailers discourage the practice

0:25:230:25:25

'and some spoil the food with chemicals

0:25:250:25:28

'to stop skippers like Katherine, from taking it.'

0:25:280:25:30

MUSIC: "Gotta Keep Walking" by Willy Mason

0:25:300:25:34

'As day turns into night, the temperature plummets.

0:25:360:25:39

'And my feet are starting to kill me!'

0:25:390:25:41

Nothing good here, all right. Move on.

0:25:410:25:44

-No?

-No, I don't think so.

-Oh, well. Next.

0:25:470:25:50

We've been walking around for a couple of hours,

0:25:540:25:57

it's freezing cold.

0:25:570:25:59

We haven't found that much stuff.

0:25:590:26:02

It's quite a tough way to find your dinner.

0:26:020:26:06

# She said we've

0:26:060:26:09

# Gotta keep walkin'

0:26:090:26:11

# Keep walkin'

0:26:110:26:12

# She said we've

0:26:120:26:15

# Gotta keep walkin' on... #

0:26:150:26:18

Oh, my God! Here we go!

0:26:180:26:20

-Oh, look.

-Eww, what is that?

0:26:200:26:22

-It's a sack of soup!

-A sack of soup!

0:26:220:26:25

CHERRY MOANS

0:26:260:26:28

-It's probably fine to eat, it's still warm.

-Still warm!

0:26:280:26:32

I'm sure it's fine to eat, it's just disgusting! I'd never take it.

0:26:320:26:35

Is that where you draw the line?

0:26:350:26:37

I just find it so revolting in the bag,

0:26:370:26:39

it's like liposuction fat or something. It's so horrible!

0:26:390:26:43

# Well, you know I need you

0:26:430:26:44

# To come back to me, honey

0:26:440:26:46

# Because my garbage can is overflowin'... #

0:26:460:26:48

'But, after three hours our luck changes.'

0:26:480:26:51

Hello.

0:26:510:26:53

-Oh, my gosh!

-Jackpot.

0:26:530:26:56

-Hello. There's everything.

-What's that, about a week's worth of food?

0:26:560:27:00

That is incredible! On a normal day, would you take all of this?

0:27:000:27:03

No, I'd just take enough for myself, enough that I think I will eat,

0:27:030:27:06

cos almost certainly someone else will come along after us.

0:27:060:27:09

And, why would I take more than I'm going to possibly eat.

0:27:090:27:14

It's like you can have anything you want and it's free!

0:27:140:27:17

There must be a hundred quid's worth of food in here.

0:27:170:27:20

-So, shall we take some?

-Yeah, take what you fancy.

0:27:200:27:22

I'm going to go for a chicken...salsa wrap.

0:27:220:27:25

Oh.

0:27:250:27:27

-You can share it with me!

-OK.

0:27:270:27:28

This is really, really good stuff! I can't believe this is in the bin.

0:27:280:27:33

They're really nice. I mean, this stuff's expensive.

0:27:340:27:37

That's 30 quid's worth of food...

0:27:370:27:40

..free.

0:27:400:27:42

It's mad!

0:27:420:27:44

MUSIC: "One Man's Rubbish" by The Beautiful South

0:27:440:27:47

'Over our scavenged picnic,

0:27:470:27:49

'I want to find out why Katherine has chosen this extreme lifestyle.'

0:27:490:27:54

# One for the memory

0:27:540:27:57

# One for the road

0:27:570:28:00

# One man's rubbish

0:28:000:28:03

# Is another man's gold

0:28:030:28:07

Why do you want to live for free, I mean, obviously, it's free

0:28:070:28:10

but are there any other reasons?

0:28:100:28:12

The whole reason why I decided to see if I could live without money

0:28:120:28:17

was because I wasn't particularly happy

0:28:170:28:21

in my life, before.

0:28:210:28:23

I was sort of in my mid-20s

0:28:230:28:26

and I guess on paper I was doing great - I had a nice job,

0:28:260:28:29

I rented a nice flat with my sister...

0:28:290:28:32

..and I guess I just wasn't enjoying all that stuff

0:28:320:28:35

as much as I thought I should.

0:28:350:28:38

But I think I prefer my life now, even though I'm more skint.

0:28:380:28:42

I think for one thing,

0:28:420:28:45

when you're always having to work to pay the rent,

0:28:450:28:49

to buy your food, pay the bills,

0:28:490:28:51

actually, that really restricts the things that you can do.

0:28:510:28:54

What's living without money taught you?

0:28:540:28:56

I hope that what I would remember is actually, you know,

0:28:560:29:01

living without any money -

0:29:010:29:03

and I did live on less than a pound a day for a couple of years -

0:29:030:29:08

I didn't really miss the money.

0:29:080:29:10

Most people say money gives you freedom, freedom of choice,

0:29:100:29:14

and I do believe that,

0:29:140:29:16

but Katherine's definitely challenged that.

0:29:160:29:19

For her, it's liberated her.

0:29:190:29:21

'Back at home, I start to wonder

0:29:240:29:26

'whether a life without any money could really be bearable.

0:29:260:29:30

'I've set myself a mission to live entirely without cash

0:29:300:29:34

'for two days, whilst having a mini holiday.

0:29:340:29:37

It means having to couch surf and hitchhike.'

0:29:370:29:39

Here we go. No wallet, no cards.

0:29:390:29:42

No cash, no travel card.

0:29:440:29:47

Oh, God, I feel so naked!

0:29:470:29:50

Wow, all my safety nets, gone.

0:29:500:29:54

Interesting.

0:29:540:29:55

MUSIC: "Moneybox" by Eliza Doolittle

0:29:550:29:58

# Don't need your moneybox

0:29:580:30:00

# Cos I got lots and lots

0:30:000:30:02

# Of what I need right here... #

0:30:020:30:04

'I've found somewhere to couch surf online,

0:30:040:30:07

'but my host's live in Norwich and that's 116 miles away.

0:30:070:30:12

'So first, a few words of hitchhiking advice from Katherine.'

0:30:120:30:15

First step, stand by the side of the road with your thumb out.

0:30:160:30:19

The second step is to...

0:30:190:30:21

-Thumb out. Check.

-KATHERINE LAUGHS

0:30:210:30:25

..look nice and trustworthy.

0:30:250:30:27

Look trustworthy.

0:30:270:30:31

Do I smile or will that make me look kind of crazy?

0:30:310:30:35

You absolutely have to smile.

0:30:350:30:36

So, it's more...

0:30:360:30:39

..then....

0:30:390:30:41

Well, I don't know! Try it both ways. See what works for you.

0:30:410:30:44

See what kind of face you've got...

0:30:440:30:47

The damsel in distress look has never really worked for me.

0:30:470:30:50

'I wouldn't recommend you try this yourself.

0:30:510:30:54

'I certainly wouldn't do it without a camera crew with me.

0:30:540:30:57

'Katherine's safety tips include, not to travel alone,

0:30:570:31:00

'and to text the number plate of cars picking you up to a friend.'

0:31:000:31:04

Always be polite.

0:31:040:31:05

-You'll be fine.

-Ready.

0:31:050:31:08

MUSIC: "Hitchin' A Ride" by Vanity Fare

0:31:080:31:10

'It's 11.30 and my journey starts on the outskirts of London.'

0:31:100:31:14

# A thumb goes up

0:31:140:31:16

# The car goes by... #

0:31:160:31:17

'I'm not sure how far my jolly sign and big smile will carry me.'

0:31:170:31:22

# Hitchin' a ride

0:31:220:31:25

# Hitchin' a ride... #

0:31:250:31:26

CAR HORN

0:31:260:31:28

Oh, I got a beep! I got a beep.

0:31:280:31:30

'And after 30 minutes I am starting to despair.'

0:31:300:31:33

Would I rather just pay six quid for a bus fare?

0:31:360:31:39

Well, let's see how it goes.

0:31:410:31:43

# Hitchin' a ride... #

0:31:430:31:45

'But then, I get a break.'

0:31:450:31:47

# Hitchin' a ride

0:31:470:31:49

'Car salesman, Angus, takes pity on me.'

0:31:500:31:53

Do you often pick up hitchhikers?

0:31:530:31:55

-No.

-Really?

0:31:550:31:57

I used to hitchhike myself, when I was a young lad.

0:31:570:32:01

I know what it's like to sit or stand on the side of the road, waiting,

0:32:010:32:05

cos years ago, it was more acceptable, wasn't it?

0:32:050:32:07

Yeah. I can't believe you picked me up.

0:32:070:32:10

'But the high of being in a nice, warm car...!'

0:32:100:32:13

Bye!

0:32:130:32:15

'..is soon followed by the low of the windy kerbside, again.'

0:32:150:32:19

# Hey, mister, where you headed

0:32:190:32:21

# Are you in a hurry? #

0:32:210:32:24

I much prefer being in the car than by the road, definitely.

0:32:240:32:29

'And this time it takes an hour before my next lift comes along,

0:32:300:32:33

'in the shape of engineer, Bob.'

0:32:330:32:36

-You're very lucky, it was a spontaneous thing, there.

-Really?

0:32:360:32:40

Thank you so much, cheers, bye.

0:32:400:32:43

We were here, and now we're here.

0:32:450:32:48

So, we're halfway, we're halfway. That's really good!

0:32:480:32:51

MUSIC: "Cars" by Gary Numan

0:32:510:32:56

# Here in my car

0:33:040:33:05

# I feel safest of all

0:33:050:33:07

# I can lock all my doors

0:33:070:33:09

# It's the only way to live in cars... #

0:33:090:33:12

'But by now I am starving, and without any cash

0:33:120:33:16

'to get snacks from the service station, I only have one option.'

0:33:160:33:21

Whaa! Flies! Aargh!

0:33:280:33:30

Eww!

0:33:320:33:33

'Maybe not.'

0:33:330:33:34

I've now been doing this for five hours. Five hours!

0:33:380:33:43

God, I could be in Yemen!

0:33:440:33:46

'Back on the road, and by now, I've travelled over 90 miles.

0:33:470:33:51

'And there's no time to rest.

0:33:510:33:53

'The chatty drivers are looking for company

0:33:530:33:55

'and intelligent conversation.'

0:33:550:33:58

I often wonder if people are inherently good

0:33:580:34:00

and if altruism actually exists?

0:34:000:34:03

Do you think there's such a thing as real altruism?

0:34:030:34:06

Thank you, so, so much!

0:34:080:34:10

'But, at last I make it.'

0:34:100:34:13

I'm here! I am in Norwich!

0:34:190:34:23

I made it with a cardboard sign,

0:34:230:34:26

a map and a cheesy grin.

0:34:260:34:29

It's taken me six hours.

0:34:290:34:31

I am knackered.

0:34:310:34:33

'It's couch surfing etiquette to offer your hosts a small gift.

0:34:340:34:37

'But without any cash, I have no idea how I am going to do this.'

0:34:370:34:42

-It's a chocolate shop!

-CHERRY LAUGHS

0:34:420:34:45

I found a present for the guests!

0:34:500:34:52

I feel quite excited again, it is like finding treasure.

0:34:520:34:55

'So, armed with my recycled present,

0:34:570:34:59

'I meet my couch-surfing hosts.

0:34:590:35:02

'I really hope they're not axe murderers!'

0:35:020:35:05

-Hello!

-Hello!

-Hi, are you Andrea?

-Yeah.

0:35:050:35:08

-Nice to meet you.

-This is Tom.

0:35:080:35:11

-Nice to meet you.

-THEY LAUGH

0:35:110:35:14

-Oh, it's really warm in here.

-Yeah.

-I'm so happy.

0:35:140:35:17

-I've brought you a present.

-Aww.

0:35:170:35:20

You didn't have to do that!

0:35:200:35:22

No, apparently, it's couch surfing etiquette,

0:35:220:35:25

but honestly, don't get too excited.

0:35:250:35:28

-Aww.

-Amazing!

0:35:310:35:34

Oh, you guys have the best fake excitement EVER!

0:35:340:35:38

-BUZZING

-'As well as a free bed for the night,

0:35:380:35:41

'I get a home-cooked meal and even a glass or two of wine.'

0:35:410:35:45

-That is really tasty.

-Aww.

0:35:450:35:48

-Thank you so much.

-You're welcome.

0:35:480:35:50

-SQUEAKS:

-Thank you so much!

-THEY LAUGH

0:35:500:35:52

'But after another three hours of lively conversation, I am beat.'

0:35:520:35:57

It's definitely rekindled my faith in the kindness of strangers.

0:35:570:36:02

My hosts have been really generous, they've cooked me a meal, and now...

0:36:020:36:06

I have a lovely room to sleep in

0:36:060:36:08

and I haven't paid a penny, it's amazing.

0:36:080:36:11

# Today I don't feel like

0:36:110:36:13

# Doing anything

0:36:130:36:15

# I just wanna lay in my bed... #

0:36:170:36:20

'Next morning, it's an early start,

0:36:220:36:25

'with a free yoga lesson from my host.

0:36:250:36:28

'And a hearty breakfast.'

0:36:280:36:30

-Bye!

-ANDREA AND TOM: Bye!

0:36:330:36:35

# Oh, today I don't feel like

0:36:350:36:37

# Doing anything... #

0:36:370:36:40

'And despite a very long wait, I hit hitchhiking jackpot.

0:36:410:36:45

'Nurse, Therese, and her son,

0:36:450:36:48

'give me a lift all the way back to London.'

0:36:480:36:50

-Thanks so much, I can't thank you enough.

-You're welcome.

0:36:500:36:53

Bye, guys. Have a good day, bye.

0:36:530:36:56

Oh, my God! They've literally taken us all the way back to London

0:36:570:37:01

I'm in London, baby!

0:37:010:37:04

I can't believe it.

0:37:050:37:07

I've had food and I've slept somewhere

0:37:070:37:11

and I haven't...spent any money,

0:37:110:37:14

no cash has passed my hands.

0:37:140:37:18

Amazing, and I've met some incredible people!

0:37:180:37:23

Extraordinary.

0:37:230:37:25

'So, my freegan experiment was a great adventure

0:37:250:37:29

'but I don't think I could live like that for long.

0:37:290:37:33

'And for many people, life without money is not a choice.'

0:37:330:37:36

'I've come to meet mum, Claire,

0:37:440:37:46

'in Merthyr Tydfil, in the south of Wales.

0:37:460:37:49

'The area is one of the most deprived in the UK

0:37:490:37:52

'with almost 30% of children living below the poverty line.

0:37:520:37:57

'And Claire's children are amongst them.'

0:37:570:38:00

-Hi! Come in.

-Hi, Claire.

-All right?

0:38:000:38:03

Good, thank you.

0:38:030:38:04

'Claire's day starts at 5.30 in the morning,

0:38:040:38:06

'when she squeezes in chores before work.'

0:38:060:38:10

-How many children do you have?

-Seven.

-You've got SEVEN kids?

0:38:100:38:13

Yes, I've got the full range, I've got older children -

0:38:130:38:16

she used to be a stroppy teenager but she's not now -

0:38:160:38:19

and then I've got the younger ones.

0:38:190:38:21

'Claire is the sole breadwinner for their family.

0:38:210:38:24

'Husband, Dave, is a full-time dad

0:38:240:38:26

'but doesn't claim benefits.

0:38:260:38:27

'And the disability allowance they once received for their autistic son, Callum, has been cut,

0:38:270:38:33

'leaving a lot of pressure on Claire's shoulders.'

0:38:330:38:36

So, how much do you bring in a week?

0:38:360:38:38

A week with the child tax is roughly about,

0:38:380:38:42

I'd say about, 100, 150,

0:38:420:38:46

-which sounds a lot.

-Wow.

0:38:460:38:48

No, it doesn't, you've got seven kids, it doesn't sound a lot.

0:38:480:38:52

Well, it's nearly £40 a week, dinner money

0:38:520:38:55

so that's gone straight away before we even pay any other bills.

0:38:550:38:58

Oh, my goodness. How do you make that work?

0:38:580:39:01

We just have to account for every singly penny.

0:39:010:39:04

Do you worry about bills?

0:39:040:39:06

Constantly, it's all the time. You know, every day you're thinking -

0:39:060:39:11

especially if you get unexpected bills -

0:39:110:39:13

it's constantly thinking, "Am I going to have the money for this?

0:39:130:39:16

"Am I going to be able to pay that?" So, it is really hard work.

0:39:160:39:20

Most weeks, I'd say on a Sunday, we haven't got a penny,

0:39:200:39:23

we literally have not got any money left at all.

0:39:230:39:26

-See you later.

-Bye, Dave. Ta-ra.

0:39:280:39:31

'Claire works as a Learning Support Assistant

0:39:310:39:34

'at a school, seven miles away.'

0:39:340:39:35

This is my usual route. THEY LAUGH

0:39:350:39:37

-Like a valley, isn't it?

-Yeah.

-Are you all the way up there?

0:39:370:39:41

'As the family can't afford a car,

0:39:410:39:44

'Claire has to take two buses in to work to make the hour-long trip.'

0:39:440:39:47

It's basically just waiting now for my chauffeur to turn up.

0:39:470:39:50

'The Gurnos Estate is one of the largest council estates in Wales.

0:40:010:40:05

'Healthy life expectancy is low, and suicide rates are high.

0:40:050:40:10

'The estate and the area have become known

0:40:100:40:12

'for a lack of employment opportunities,

0:40:120:40:15

'after the closure of its coal mines,

0:40:150:40:17

'and nearly a third of the people here, claim benefits.

0:40:170:40:20

'Despite the cards being stacked against her, Claire is determined to work.'

0:40:210:40:25

-What sound do you need, Tyler?

-"Th."

-"That".

0:40:300:40:32

Cordy, what have you got? Have you got a "Th?"

0:40:320:40:36

-Olivia?

-"Ch."

0:40:360:40:39

-You've got a "Ch" sound?

-Yes.

-Yeah, well done!

0:40:390:40:43

You seem to really love your job?

0:40:430:40:45

Absolutely adore it, best thing in the world.

0:40:450:40:47

Coming in to somewhere and taking over the care

0:40:470:40:50

of somebody else's child, that is really privileged.

0:40:500:40:54

You know when you see them reach a goal?

0:40:540:40:56

It's like, wow!

0:40:560:40:57

-Yeh! Well done!

-Well done!

0:40:590:41:02

You've saved all those cats. Right, now, sshh!

0:41:020:41:04

If you didn't work and you were claiming full benefits

0:41:040:41:08

and disability allowance, how much could you bring in a month?

0:41:080:41:11

I'd say...

0:41:110:41:13

..roughly about what we're on, perhaps a little bit less,

0:41:130:41:17

but you wouldn't have the added...

0:41:170:41:20

payments, like the dinners

0:41:200:41:22

and things like, you would get a lot more help on top.

0:41:220:41:26

If you added that all up, you'd potentially be bringing in double

0:41:260:41:30

what you're earning now.

0:41:300:41:31

-Possibly, yeah.

-So, why go to work, what is it?

0:41:310:41:34

It's given me my dignity back and my self-respect.

0:41:340:41:39

I'm proud of myself. A couple of years ago, I couldn't have done that.

0:41:390:41:43

I'd look in the mirror and thought, "You're worthless."

0:41:430:41:45

When have been the hardest struggles?

0:41:450:41:48

One of the hardest was when Dave had to come out of work,

0:41:480:41:51

we really were struggling financially

0:41:510:41:54

and there'd be times when we had no money for nappies.

0:41:540:41:56

You just feel useless, totally and utterly useless.

0:41:560:42:01

You think, "Why on earth was I put on this world?"

0:42:010:42:03

What was the lead up to those circumstances?

0:42:030:42:08

I was pregnant with my first child with Dave, my husband,

0:42:080:42:12

got to the hospital, and they couldn't find the heartbeat.

0:42:120:42:15

They just sort of looked at me and said, "Baby dead, nothing I can do,"

0:42:150:42:20

and just walked off and left the midwives.

0:42:200:42:22

(What?!)

0:42:250:42:28

I had to go through...

0:42:290:42:31

..what came naturally, which was labour.

0:42:310:42:34

And...

0:42:340:42:37

..it was difficult,

0:42:380:42:41

and we just sat and, you know, held her and talked to her

0:42:410:42:46

and...

0:42:460:42:50

..it doesn't go away.

0:42:500:42:52

I mean, I couldn't cope, but I had to because of the children

0:42:520:42:56

but I knew...

0:42:560:42:57

for Dave, it just totally devastated him.

0:42:570:43:00

'Dave fell into a depression after the loss of their daughter

0:43:020:43:05

'and couldn't return to work.

0:43:050:43:07

'The family faced financial ruin and almost lost everything.'

0:43:070:43:11

So you were dealing with horrendous, horrendous trauma,

0:43:110:43:15

-bills coming in, neither of you working...

-Yip.

0:43:150:43:19

the stigma of potentially signing on to benefits

0:43:190:43:25

-and having to still be parents...

-Yeah.

0:43:250:43:29

..all of that combined?

0:43:290:43:31

And obviously, we had to go through the funeral, as well,

0:43:320:43:36

and when it came, I thought I was doing so well

0:43:360:43:40

and then, Dave had to carry her...

0:43:400:43:45

to the grave, and that just...

0:43:450:43:49

..totally finished me.

0:43:520:43:55

Claire and Dave have been through a nightmare

0:44:090:44:12

and the problem is, is that...

0:44:120:44:14

when you've got no money, no savings,

0:44:140:44:18

no rich friends and family to bail you out,

0:44:180:44:21

there's no safety net, there's no leeway,

0:44:210:44:25

the rent still has to be paid, the bills still have to be paid.

0:44:250:44:28

They don't stop coming, so you just have to pull yourself together

0:44:280:44:33

and get on with it. Which, when you've dealing with

0:44:330:44:35

what they've had to go through,

0:44:350:44:38

I really don't know how they've done it.

0:44:380:44:40

'The next day, I join Claire on a shopping trip.

0:44:420:44:45

'As a special treat, she's taking the boys on a picnic.

0:44:450:44:49

'But she's working to a tight budget,

0:44:490:44:52

'which means walking the five miles into town to save on bus fares.'

0:44:520:44:57

How much have we got to spend today and what do we need?

0:44:570:45:00

Right, my budget for today is £15 to spend on things for the picnic.

0:45:000:45:04

'Money is desperately tight

0:45:040:45:06

'and overspending on as little as a pound could leave Claire

0:45:060:45:10

'short for electricity and other essentials.'

0:45:100:45:13

We can't have sweets today, OK?

0:45:130:45:15

Because we haven't budgeted for those, right?

0:45:150:45:18

But when mummy gets paid we'll treat you to some. Is that OK?

0:45:180:45:23

'There is no chance of going off-list

0:45:230:45:25

'and I'm amazed at how the boys really understand this!'

0:45:250:45:28

-OK, what do you say, boys?

-Thank you.

-Good boys.

0:45:280:45:31

-SHOPKEEPER:

-No problem, thank you.

-Ta-ra, thank you.

0:45:310:45:34

I'm so impressed with Claire's budgeting.

0:45:340:45:36

I'm definitely not this careful.

0:45:360:45:39

I definitely don't go to the cheapest shops -

0:45:390:45:42

there's no way I would have got this much, for my money, the way I spend.

0:45:420:45:46

'I'm really interested to find out from Claire

0:45:530:45:56

'just how important money is to her.'

0:45:560:45:59

-Do you think money brings you happiness?

-No, I don't.

0:45:590:46:02

Best things in life are free.

0:46:020:46:04

I think the more you've got, the more you want,

0:46:040:46:07

you just get more and more greedy.

0:46:070:46:10

If you've got children, that's going to be passed on to them.

0:46:100:46:14

Are the boys losing out from not growing up with money?

0:46:140:46:17

No, I think they're gaining.

0:46:170:46:18

I really think that they're better people for it,

0:46:180:46:22

their morals,

0:46:220:46:24

they understand that they can't just walk into a shop

0:46:240:46:27

and pick up an Xbox.

0:46:270:46:29

Do the boys feel hard done by?

0:46:290:46:32

I don't think so, but I make them aware.

0:46:320:46:35

I say, "Look how lucky you are.

0:46:350:46:36

"Your mum and dad love you more than anything in the world."

0:46:360:46:39

They seem so content. They do.

0:46:390:46:44

I think they are, I think they're really happy.

0:46:440:46:46

You never know what's round the corner. You need to appreciate every minute together

0:46:460:46:51

and just make the most of it

0:46:510:46:54

and always say you love the person you're with.

0:46:540:46:56

-Boys, what have you found today?

-I found an old lock.

0:46:580:47:02

You found an old lock? Wow!

0:47:020:47:04

-And I found pottery.

-You found pottery.

0:47:040:47:08

-I found an old gas pipe.

-An old gas pipe?

0:47:080:47:11

And you found a pram wheel?

0:47:110:47:14

-Guys, you're like treasure hunters, was that fun?

-BOYS: Yeah.

0:47:150:47:18

Bye.

0:47:180:47:20

-Bye guys!

-You going to give a hug, before we go?

0:47:200:47:23

Do I get a little hug? Oh!

0:47:230:47:26

-Bye!

-Bye!

0:47:260:47:29

So nice to meet you.

0:47:290:47:30

-What a treat! Aww!

-Bye!

0:47:300:47:33

Four hugs! That's amazing!

0:47:330:47:36

All right, bye, guys!

0:47:370:47:38

Have a lovely day!

0:47:380:47:40

-Bye!

-Bye, Claire.

0:47:400:47:42

'There's no denying that Claire still faces

0:47:470:47:50

'a daily struggle to make ends meet.

0:47:500:47:52

'After all they've been through, I thought Claire

0:47:520:47:54

'would be more reliant on money.

0:47:540:47:57

'But the loss of a child has forced Claire to address

0:47:570:47:59

'what really matters, and for her, it's not money.

0:47:590:48:02

'Other women I've met might feel differently,

0:48:020:48:05

'but I really admire how she's been able to cope, so well.'

0:48:050:48:09

Claire is one of most inspiring people I've ever met in my life.

0:48:090:48:13

She has so many reasons to... go on benefits

0:48:130:48:18

and to sit and feel sorry for herself but she doesn't.

0:48:180:48:22

Meeting her has definitely made me rethink...

0:48:230:48:28

the importance of money in my life.

0:48:280:48:31

'Growing up in one of the country's most deprived areas,

0:48:310:48:35

Claire has managed to make the best of her situation.

0:48:350:48:38

But how different is it, when you've lived the high life and lost it all?

0:48:380:48:42

# The best things in life are free

0:48:420:48:46

# But you can give them

0:48:460:48:47

# To the birds and bees

0:48:470:48:49

-# I want money

-# That's

0:48:490:48:51

# What I want

0:48:510:48:52

# That's what I want... #

0:48:520:48:54

'I am in one of the richest London boroughs to meet Birgit Cunningham.

0:48:540:48:58

'With a name like that she has to be posh.'

0:48:580:49:01

-Hi! Nice to meet you!

-How's it going?

0:49:010:49:03

Growing up, were you upper class?

0:49:050:49:08

I think, I think I'd say we were upper class,

0:49:090:49:13

mostly because of the schooling, we always went to private schools...

0:49:130:49:17

-I got myself into Roedean and...

-What's Roedean?

0:49:170:49:21

Roedean's a boarding school, it's a bit like Eton but for girls,

0:49:210:49:25

and it was all these international girls and princesses

0:49:250:49:29

and ambassadors' daughters and it was just stratospheric,

0:49:290:49:32

you know, big money

0:49:320:49:34

and I just, this was a world

0:49:340:49:37

I was unaware of but I suddenly thought, that knew what I wanted.

0:49:370:49:41

It was the early '80s and I'm like, "This is what I want."

0:49:410:49:44

I wanted to be in the super-rich crowd.

0:49:440:49:47

And there was nothing that was going to stop me!

0:49:490:49:52

'After a stint as a yacht broker, Birgit moved to Hollywood

0:49:520:49:56

'and became pals with some serious A-listers.'

0:49:560:49:59

I lived with Julia Verdin and Elizabeth Hurley

0:49:590:50:03

and we dressed, we were decked in

0:50:030:50:06

Dolce & Gabbana and Versace,

0:50:060:50:09

and Gucci and Chanel,

0:50:090:50:12

Elizabeth was always wearing Chanel.

0:50:120:50:14

I have dated some of the richest men on this planet.

0:50:140:50:16

I'm a serious stud in that department.

0:50:160:50:19

I managed to get Kevin Costner.

0:50:190:50:21

-What? You dated Kevin Costner?

-Yes.

0:50:210:50:23

-Can I ask a really, dirty question?

-BIRGIT LAUGHS

0:50:230:50:27

What was he like in bed?

0:50:270:50:29

I can't say anything but I can smile.

0:50:310:50:34

Really?

0:50:340:50:35

-I so want that to be true because he's so dreamy.

-Oh, yeah, my God.

0:50:350:50:39

So you grew up rich, loads of money, very wealthy.

0:50:390:50:43

Yes, definitely grew up very wealthy.

0:50:430:50:47

What's life like for you, right now?

0:50:470:50:51

Well, I think karma's taken a big...role in my life -

0:50:510:50:55

I've gone from being a snobby bitch

0:50:550:50:58

to being a...

0:50:580:51:00

ending up in a council flat on a council estate

0:51:000:51:03

with absolutely no money to my name,

0:51:030:51:05

single mum, on benefits.

0:51:050:51:08

# I left my soul down a hole

0:51:080:51:11

# Now I'm signing on the dole

0:51:110:51:14

# And there ain't no more

0:51:140:51:16

# Money coming my way... #

0:51:160:51:19

'After six fast living years in Hollywood,

0:51:190:51:22

'Birgit returned to London and got pregnant.

0:51:220:51:24

'But the relationship with the father didn't work out.

0:51:240:51:27

'Her parents were no longer in a position to support her

0:51:270:51:31

'and Birgit found herself alone and signing on.'

0:51:310:51:36

So how did that feel,

0:51:370:51:40

that first moment, going from the glamour

0:51:400:51:44

of your Hollywood, LA lifestyle to signing on?

0:51:440:51:48

It was just such an eye-opener of how most of the world lives, actually,

0:51:480:51:52

so, I'd really fallen from my tower

0:51:520:51:55

and I was... I felt it was more

0:51:550:51:59

a case of... You know when you're driving around London,

0:51:590:52:02

and you look at one or two buildings and you think,

0:52:020:52:04

"God, who lives there?"

0:52:040:52:06

"Who lives in that tower block?" Now I know.

0:52:060:52:10

'Birgit gets out her photo album

0:52:100:52:12

'to give me a glimpse of her former life.'

0:52:120:52:15

That's you and Liz Hurley, where's that?

0:52:150:52:17

That's doing the Cannes Film Festival.

0:52:170:52:20

Hugh Grant took that photo, actually.

0:52:200:52:22

Oh, my gosh!

0:52:220:52:26

-Did you take these?

-Yeah, I took those pictures.

0:52:260:52:29

Does it not hurt to look at these photos and think,

0:52:290:52:32

"I used to date Kevin Costner, in LA?"

0:52:320:52:35

I have to say, it did take me a long time to get over that one.

0:52:350:52:38

Who are these guys in this picture?

0:52:380:52:41

That's Zac Goldsmith, MP now,

0:52:410:52:43

Jemima Goldsmith,

0:52:430:52:45

Tara Palmer-Tomkinson,

0:52:450:52:47

Elle Macpherson, and me.

0:52:470:52:49

Those were the days that I knew people,

0:52:490:52:51

That was right before I became pregnant, actually.

0:52:510:52:54

And that was when it kind of ended?

0:52:560:52:58

Yeah, pretty much, that's what I fell from.

0:52:580:53:02

'But with a bump down to reality it's school closing time,

0:53:060:53:09

'and we have to pick up her son, Jack.'

0:53:090:53:11

-Hi, I'm Cherry. Nice to meet you.

-Nice to meet you.

0:53:110:53:15

'Tired of the stigma of being on benefits,

0:53:150:53:17

'Birgit wants to return to work,

0:53:170:53:20

'although paying for childcare means she won't be any better off.'

0:53:200:53:23

# I haven't got no money... #

0:53:230:53:28

'After the essential bills are paid, Birgit lives on £62 a week,

0:53:280:53:32

'which has to cover food, clothes and entertainment.

0:53:320:53:36

'So haircuts come courtesy of mum.'

0:53:360:53:38

This is a whole new approach to hairdressing.

0:53:380:53:41

-You see, this is child cruelty!

-Child cruelty!

0:53:410:53:44

BRIGIT LAUGHS

0:53:440:53:46

She's doing a great job, Jack. You look great!

0:53:460:53:49

'Birgit naturally drifted apart from her

0:53:490:53:51

'celebrity friends, but even close pals

0:53:510:53:54

'seemed to vanish when she signed on.'

0:53:540:53:58

How did it make you feel when certain friends disappeared

0:54:000:54:04

because you'd lost your money?

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Um...

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it was hard, but what's harder is bumping into them.

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And em...

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This is bringing a lot back.

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I'm thinking of one occasion when - I mean, I'm still in Chelsea,

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I'm still on my old haunting ground,

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and I have had people cross the road when they've seen me coming...

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..just to avoid that whole, sort of,

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"Oh, good God, there's Birgit."

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That really... That really hurts.

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BRIGIT SIGHS

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I really hate these snobs who cross the road when they see me coming

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because they don't want to deal with a poor person.

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You know, God forbid!

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I think it serves me right,

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I think it's karma and it's been very humbling and I probably deserve it.

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I've had the high life,

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I've had the Lear jets, I've had the yachts,

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I've had the hairdressers and the manicures and pedicures

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and massages and the designer dresses.

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Em...I've had more than most people

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but now...I think I'm seeing real life and real people.

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# Didn't I give it all

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# Tried my best... #

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Her life is so completely, completely different now

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but, you can see that she stills hankers after the old times.

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It must be an incredibly difficult thing

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to have experienced and then let go of.

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'So, I've experienced the buzz of being filthy rich

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'and what it's like to go cold turkey.

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'But what have I really learnt?'

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It almost doesn't matter how much money you've got,

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money can play a very important role in your life,

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it can make you happy and it can make you sad

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and it's really important that it sits in the right place

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in your priority list.

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And that is what I will try and teach Coco,

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is that, it doesn't matter if she doesn't have millions

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but the money that she does have,

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look after it, manage it well

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but other things are more important, your friends and family

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are essentially the most important thing in your life.

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Have monkey? Yeah!

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CAR HORN

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CHERRY SHRIEKS

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Money may be too tight to mention, but not to Cherry Healey. In this personal documentary, she goes to meet women with very different experiences of the folding stuff, from a self-made millionaire to a woman on the breadline. Cherry experiences for herself what it's like to eat from a bin when she spends time with a freegan and gets a complete WAG makeover from a girl on a mission to bag a rich husband. Cherry's journey takes her around the country as she finds out how financially-independent women really are and if cash can make us happy.