Episode 1 Brian Pern: A Life in Rock


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I am Alan Yentob. This programme is not about me, sadly,

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but about another formidable individual who has made

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a staggering impact within the artistic world he inhabits.

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Brian Pern is one of the most influential rock stars

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of his generation.

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For almost 40 years he has been entertaining millions

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around the world both as lead singer of progressive rock group Thotch

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and as a solo artist.

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A true pioneer, Brian was the first person to use plasticine in videos.

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He invented world music.

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DRUMMING AND SCREAMING

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And was the first rock star

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to have his own computer game on the ZX Spectrum.

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But in an ever-changing world of illegal downloads

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and manufactured pop bands, how does an artist like Brian Pern

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stay relevant?

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In this three part series the notoriously private

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and reclusive Brian Pern has allowed the multi-award winning

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documentary maker Rhys Thomas OBE unlimited access into his life

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and work.

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This is not just an insight into the life of Brian Pern,

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but the music industry itself.

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This is Brian Pern: A Life In Rock.

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This programme contains strong language.

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No matter what you think of Brian Pern, he is a pioneer.

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Brian Pern is one of those artists

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who has genuinely changed the face of music.

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I think he'll be best remembered,

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Brian, as someone who's worked with plasticine and for his world music.

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We've had our differences over the years, but you can't deny

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the fact that Brian was once the greatest front man in Thotch.

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He's one of those rock stars who really does care, even though

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sometimes his music's a bit...shit.

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In 1977, Brian Pern bought a disused abattoir

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and turned it into a state-of-the-art recording studio

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here in Surrey.

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BRIAN CHANTS

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I love to come down here. It's very bucolic, rustic. It's great.

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A lot of people come here and make music.

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This is the business book we have here.

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A lot of people come here and they sign.

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"Great condom machine." Bryan Ferry.

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"Great!" Adele. One word. "Can you see what it is yet?

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"Have a great summer." Rolf Harris. Oh.

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That better go.

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Oh, that's a shame. From Kasabian.

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One of the great things about Poggle Sound Studios

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is I have musicians from all over the world coming here to record.

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I'm here with Mr Ali Qu'ack.

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Ali is the only bone flute player left in the world.

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TOOTING

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Although we don't speak the same language, we speak music.

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SLOWLY: Ali, how long have you been playing the bone flute?

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HE SPEAKS FARSI

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OK.

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OPERATIC WARBLING

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One of Brian's discoveries is the Pepita Sanchez, Mexico's answer

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to Kate Bush, who he discovered busking in Acapulco in 1997

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and signed to his World Music record label.

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SHRIEKING

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-EXAGGERATED SPANISH ACCENT:

-Brian is helping me record my album,

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but in return I have to do him a few other jobs around the studio and the house.

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SHE CHOKES

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Those bits, they won't go.

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Ugh!

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Doing the cooking...

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Looking after any papers that arrive...

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You have very important post.

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A lady from Hull, she send you her downstairs hair.

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These are the pubic envelopes.

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Um...

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..that's it.

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Although Thotch split in 1977, the name,

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like the Beatles, Led Zeppelin and Then Jericho still lives on.

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But without new material or the ability to tour,

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how do bands continue to sell their brand?

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I went to ask their manager, John Farrow.

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Well, David Cameron can fuck right off.

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No, I will not get Theresa May and him comps for Mungo Jerry at the Cambridge Corn Exchange.

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Mungo needs all the help he can get, Dave is worth 35 million.

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He can pay for his own fucking tickets. Jesus Christ!

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These people try it on.

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As well as Brian and Thotch, his other clients include

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Elton John, Level 42, Erasure,

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Youssou Noel'Dour and Bananarama.

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Some artists team up with an annoying bunch of French clowns

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and put on massive shows in Las Vegas.

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Cirque du Soleil teamed up with

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the Beatles, Michael Jackson, Mike Batt...

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# Remember remember remember what a Womble Womble Womble you are. #

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The really lazy ones give the B-sides and the stuff at the bottom of the barrel to

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a couple of middle-aged twats in helmets who attempt to

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turn them into hits, but ultimately remix them into Europop bollocks.

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# ROBOTIC: Golden brown... #

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I, or rather we, Thotch, that is, have gone for the riskiest,

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though perhaps ultimately the most financially rewarding option -

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the jukebox musical.

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Fucking jukebox musicals! They've killed musical theatre.

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The upshot is they get heterosexuals and the working classes

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going to the theatre, which is a good thing, I suppose.

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But the amount of Pringles these peasants consume

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during the performances is astonishing.

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Theatres these days reek of sour cream and chives.

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We've all spent years crafting lyrics and melody,

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breaking barriers, doing things that have never been done before,

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and then some poxy comedian comes along with a greatest hits album

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that he found in the glove compartment of his car

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and he thinks he can turn it into a hit musical!

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It really fucks me off and it never works.

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Apart from the ones that did, like We Will Rock You, Buddy,

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Mamma Mia, Jersey Boys and several others...

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With much persuasion, John has managed to assemble the original

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members of Thotch to discuss their jukebox musical, Stowe Boys.

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This is the first time they've all been in the same room for 35 years.

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Thotch are a difficult bunch to deal with.

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After 35 years has taken its toll on me.

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It's thanks to them I've got three ex-wives, two stents

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and half a fucking eardrum.

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They're all very different people with one thing in common -

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they're all fucking impossible.

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You've got Brian, who was always the head of Thotch, as it were.

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Pat, who was the heart, passionate, instinctive.

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You've got Tony, who was the balls of the band.

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And the prick.

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Whereas John and Mike were the toes -

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I mean, chop them off and Thotch

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would carry on with a bit of a limp but not enough for anyone to notice.

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I hear you have a tour plan.

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Um, yeah. Um...

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-Australia, Japan, North America.

-Ah.

-Hm.

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-Concert halls?

-Stadia.

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Oh.

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-What about you? You're rehearsing too.

-Me?

-Hm.

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Er, yes, I'm at the O2 next week.

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Oh, Greenwich Arena?

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Westfield Shopping Centre.

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I've composed some new ringtones for the Nokia Lumia 625.

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We're performing them for the first time live in the store.

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I've got some here.

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This is Traditional Bell.

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TINNY JANGLING

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Titanium Flake Modo One.

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MONOTONOUS PLONKING TONE

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And this is Shit Storm.

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THRASHING ROCK GUITAR

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Fucking Brian called.

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-He's very sorry but he can't make it today.

-Typical.

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I knew he wouldn't bother to turn up. What's he doing?

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Tea-bagging Angela Merkel or something? Christ!

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He says he stuck overseas doing some work for the United Nations.

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-But it's all right, I've got him on this. Hello, Brian.

-'Yes?'

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Can you hear us?

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'I can hear you, John, yes.'

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Right, thanks for coming. What did you think of the new draft?

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'Well, I thought the first part was great

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'but I must admit I lost interest after I left.'

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Oh, yeah.

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PAT: I thought it was a complete fabrication of the truth.

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Brian is depicted as this wonderful free-spirited artist who

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dominates the group and we're nothing more than cardboard cut-outs

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who had little to do with the band's success at all!

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I hated it.

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It made me out to be some vain musical novice only

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interested in flange.

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John and Mike don't have any lines, do you?

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'Well, I thought it was an accurate

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'depiction of their contribution to Thotch pre-1977.'

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PAT: It's very stuffy in here.

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'Basically, the band was me at that stage.

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'I was the driving force.'

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PAT LAUGHS

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HE YAWNS OSTENTATIOUSLY

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HIS VOICE ECHOES: Well, I'm really tired here.

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It's about three in the morning and I've got terrible jet lag.

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So I'll probably be turning in now and having a sleep. So good night.

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Ohhh...

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It was interesting when we were following you the other day

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when you had your first meeting with the rest of the group.

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You pretended to be on the phone from somewhere else. Why did you do that?

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But that's not going to be in the film, is it?

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-No, that won't be in the film, no.

-OK.

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Tell us about the break-up of Thotch and how hard was that for you?

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It was pretty hard, but in some ways it was a good thing.

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I think we'd come to the end of our natural life as a band.

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I had a lot of ideas that I wanted to put into practice.

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The other members of Thotch felt they were marginalised and they said

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they wanted more input and we argued and I said, "OK, that's it, I'll go."

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Brian didn't leave the band, he quit the band and there's a big difference.

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Leaving requires dignity and integrity.

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Quitting is a coward's way out

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and Brian chose the coward's way out and Brian bloody well quit.

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HE PLAYS A ROCK RIFF

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He was a coward.

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You were best friends.

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I mean, you were the two friends at school who were in separable.

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Yeah, we were friends.

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But is it like losing a brother in a weird way?

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No.

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The actor playing Brian Pern has asked to meet him for research.

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-Hello.

-Hi. Thanks for seeing me, Brian.

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The reason I wanted to meet up is because when I'm playing a real person

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I like to get myself under their skin,

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get to know how they live and breathe.

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I want to do you justice.

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-Understood.

-So a couple things.

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Do you have any tics?

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No.

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-Any speech impediments or disabilities I can latch onto?

-No.

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Do you suffer from depression?

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No. Any tragedy in your life that haunts you?

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No.

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Ah, were you beaten as a child or buggered at boarding school?

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No.

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Shame.

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Not a lot to go on there, really.

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Lovely, thanks.

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Wow! I could use that.

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That's really good.

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-That whole...

-HE GRUNTS

-..eating like a pig.

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I'm hungry.

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HE SLURPS

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Ahhhh.

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-HE SLURPS

-Ahhh...

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THEY URINATE

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Aha, you aim for the soap cube. That's interesting.

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And you shake...twice. Yeah, I can use that.

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Oh, come on!

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Come on!

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Stowe Boys producer Cameron Mackintosh has chosen actress

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and director Kathy Burke to direct her first jukebox musical.

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No, I've never done a jukebox musical before.

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I usually do experimental stuff - low-budget, hard-hitting.

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Because to be quite honest,

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I think jukebox musicals are usually a bit shit, you know.

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Some of them.

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Well, most of them, really.

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But I just thought this would be a bit different.

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She can't direct something like this!

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She's working fucking class, that's why. I told you to get Terry Nunn.

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Well, what's she going to know about four blokes from Stowe and chord structure?

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God Almighty, it takes your breath away. Jesus!

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I think she's a good choice.

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I think she's a good choice to direct some kitchen sink

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fucking Cockney jellied eel fucking tragedy

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Upstairs at the Royal fucking Court, but this is a different league.

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Kathy!

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Yes, great to have you on board.

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HE SPLUTTERS

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(Don't fucking "darling" me, old love!)

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Sorry, missed that.

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-The actor playing me.

-What about him?

-Well, he's Japanese.

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No, he's Chinese, actually, Pat.

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-I'm not.

-Look, we need a bit of ethnic diversity, right?

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Otherwise is just four middle-class white men and who wants that?

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I don't.

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Were you ever a fan of Thotch?

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SHE LAUGHS No. No, I thought they were crap.

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-So why are you doing it?

-Well, the money.

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So the programmes have come in. Happy?

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-Has this been approved by Brian and Tony?

-Yeah.

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-Well, I don't like it.

-Why?

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There are six group shots of us and then there are two singles of me,

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Mike, Tony, one of John and four of Brian!

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-And?

-I think we should all have an equal number of single shots.

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Right.

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Apart from John and Mike.

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The part of Tony Pebble is played by comedian

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and actor Jack Whitehall in his West End musical debut.

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Tony is kind of a bimbo. Let's get it right.

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He's not a man who has any intellectual curiosity.

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He is a man who's interested in notches on a bedpost.

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So this is the groupie scene.

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Jack, you come in and then Angie and Sam will pull down your flares,

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we will fade the lights down,

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but we'll finish on a nice spot on your face

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as you're spilling the beans.

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Right. Sort of, like...

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HE GROANS

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-Oh, it's lovely.

-Wait, hang on a second.

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Wa-a-ait a minute.

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A couple of things.

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First of all, my groupies, they were a lot more attractive than those two

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and considerably younger.

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If you could get another couple of birds, that would be great.

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And the other thing, Jack,

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your squirt face?

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It was nothing like me. Mine was like this.

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OK?

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Never let anyone know what's going on in here.

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Mysterious, like this.

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Even when you're done, not even a sound, not a squeak, just...

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Nothing.

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OK, you have a go.

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Yeah, yeah, that'll do. Sorry to bother you. Carry on.

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Thanks, Tone.

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Fucking hell, just do what you want.

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I don't...fucking...

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I don't like my hair in this one.

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And this one makes it look like I've got a double chin.

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-Can we change those?

-Right.

-OK.

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And my ex-wife took this picture,

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which means she gets the royalties,

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which means she gets expensive avocados delivered by Ocado.

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I don't want that.

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-Fine.

-Does Brian like it?

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-Yep.

-I hate it.

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With the opening night looming,

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Brian is heading to the theatre to watch the dress run of Stowe Boys

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for the very first time.

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Ned's been with me for some time and he's been a jolly good driver,

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but he's lost his licence

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and has two kids, one of whom is not the full ticket,

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and I don't think it's fair that he should lose his weekly pay,

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so I'm driving.

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Do you like Fred Basset?

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He's fucking funny.

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He's a dog

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and he's a dog that thinks and you can see what he thinks.

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He's funny.

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Can I have a piss?

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Oh, where the gosh, darn, heck is Brian?!

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Yeah, he's always late. I can't take this any more!

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Guys, I am leaving the group.

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-What?

-I have a unique vision which cannot be stifled.

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I feel the need to go solo.

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-You've got to be joking!

-Hey!

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We're in the middle of a tour, Brian!

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And we've got an album to deliver!

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I am going to kill you!

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No, no, no, stop this, it's ridiculous.

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-KATHY:

-Brian, what are you doing?

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We're in the middle of a run-through here.

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There was never any violence in Thotch.

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I would never throw a banana at someone.

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- You, the singer, what's your name? - Martin.

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Yes, he was playing me.

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When you're performing, you're too wired, edgy, almost punk.

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- Well... - You need to be more free.

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When I was performing, I used to stare out into the vortex.

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I was watching over the underplanet.

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Have you not seen any of my DVDs?

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I have and I haven't.

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What does that mean?

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Well, no, I have seen some DVDs, yeah.

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OK, actually not the covers?

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- You've watched the DVDs? - I've watched the DVDs,

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and I thought, to be fair, I was giving a good shot, sorry.

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-Well, you think so?

-I think it's great.

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Can we just get on with it, please now, Brian?

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And also, are you going to shave your beard off?

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- I can't shave the beard. - Why?

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Because I'm doing a film at the moment.

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Right.

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It's a BBC Four thing, it's a biopic.

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About?

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About Chas 'n' Dave, if you must know.

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- Which one are you playing? - I'm playing both.

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I mean, I really resent this circumference.

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Do the others like it?

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No.

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I quite like it.

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Lovely circumference.

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I don't like this at all.

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-What does Brian think?

-Hates it.

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Actually...

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I think it's quite amusing.

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With just a day to go before previews,

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tempers are fraught inside the theatre.

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Don't you people understand this is a dress rehearsal?

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Right?

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This is my stage, my space, and you people have no place here, right?

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Kathy, this is our life and you're turning it into a lie.

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There's a scene in act two where Mike dies

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from a sexually transmitted disease.

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So?

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Mike's never had a sexually transmitted disease

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and he's not dead!

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This is the problem, cos when I got the script

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it was just boring, right?

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Your lives are boring, so I just needed to give it a bit of zhuzh.

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-Zhuzh?

-What is zhuzh?

-Zhuzh, you know?

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Oomph, I had to oomph it up a bit, right?

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When people come and see a show about fucking rock'n'roll,

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that's what they want.

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They want sex, drugs, scandal and death,

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and that's why I gave Mike an STD and killed him.

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Yes, but the thing that makes Thotch unique

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is that we weren't like any other band.

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Listen, Brian, Pat...

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Fuck off!

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'On the opening night, the plan is, for the first time,

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you're going to come in together and be on stage together for the encore.

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I get the impression that you're not really going to end up doing that.

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I think we will. I think we're all thawing a little.

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Let's face it, it's kind of childish,

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the way we treat each other.

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Nevertheless,

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it's not my fault.

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It's theirs.

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Finally, it's the opening night of Stowe Boys, The Musical,

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and the curtain goes up in 45 minutes.

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We're going to be late, Brian. We've got to go.

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I realise that but, Peter, will you please hurry?

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-APPROACHING:

-Coming, Brian.

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OK, I'm ready. Come, come. Come, come. Let's go, let's go.

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Oh, God. What are you wearing?

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-KNOCKING

-You don't like it?

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-We're going to the theatre.

-It is not tight enough?

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Look, would you mind walking around six or seven paces behind me

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because we don't want the press to think...

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Ai! Not this again!

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-Metropolitan police.

-Why can I not stand shoulder to shoulder with you?

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-Mr Brian Pern?

-Yes.

-I'm DC Mike Northwood, this is DC Bovis.

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We have a warrant to search this premises.

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-You're joking?

-You OK with the filming, by the way?

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These are Channel 5, they're doing a documentary on Operation Bad Apples.

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Bad apples?

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No, you misunderstand the situation. My name is Brian Pern.

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Yes? Tonight, I'm opening a musical. Tonight, in the West End.

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That's as may be, sir, I'm afraid you won't be able to attend

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because you need to come to the station with us.

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Call John Farrow. Ned! Call John Farrow. Now.

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Hello?

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Oh, Jesus Christ.

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-What have you done?

-I have not done anything. I don't understand this.

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-Are you one of those?

-One of whats?

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Get your husband an overnight bag, any medications he might need,

0:21:530:21:57

toothpaste, floss, wet wipes...

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I'm not her husband.

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But, look, what is the charge? I don't understand.

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I'm afraid I'm not at liberty to divulge that at this stage, sir.

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-That's why you need to come to the station.

-Brian, don't say a word.

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Keep it shtoom. You say two words to these fuckers and they'll have you.

0:22:100:22:13

Wait for your brief, yeah?

0:22:130:22:14

-Brian's been arrested.

-What? What for?

0:22:140:22:16

Fucking good question.

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They've taken his hard drives and computers.

0:22:170:22:20

-Well, that's it. We're finished aren't we?

-Fuck.

0:22:200:22:23

Surely not Brian, I mean, Tony, it wouldn't surprise me, but Brian?

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That's it. We're finished. They won't play our music any more.

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Our CDs will be taken off the shelves.

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Our musical, fuck!

0:22:320:22:34

Our musical! What are going to do?

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Don't panic, don't panic.

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You go to the theatre, do nothing. I'll go and sort it out.

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It's a fucking witch hunt.

0:22:400:22:42

Anything you want to tell me, Tony?

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-I brought your shoes.

-He won't need spare shoes.

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But he has terrible corns.

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And also your favourite wipes. They ones that don't give you the rash.

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Yes, can I just stop you there, ma'am.

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Are they bum wipes or facial wipes?

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Because unfortunately, you can't flush the facials

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down the toilets in the nick because it blocks the pipes.

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We had a fatberg recently.

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They are flushable Huggies.

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Oh, well, that's all right, then, isn't it?

0:23:090:23:12

-Is that all right?

-Yeah, it is all right. Flushable Huggies, oh, yeah.

0:23:120:23:15

What is a fatberg?

0:23:150:23:16

Well, fatberg, it's a...

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Fat, you see, at the takeaway restaurants, they...

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-They tip it down the sink.

-They tip it down the sink.

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They fail to let it solidify, so what happens is, like, you get...

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-Build-up.

-Build-up, yeah, it's like a build-up,

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it's like a build-up and they become... bergs, you know?

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Fatbergs.

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-Why are we talking about fat?

-I feel sick.

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Off you go, lads. Come on. Good luck, good luck, good luck.

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We would like to confirm that Bad Apple officers have arrested

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a 62-year-old man in relation to crimes

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which cannot be divulged for reasons of national security.

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-Hey, guys. I don't know what to do about my parents.

-What's happened?

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They say if we don't get a record deal soon,

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they'll give us £10,000 to record an album ourselves.

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We don't even have to pay them back.

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That sucks, man.

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If only our parents weren't so supportive.

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How terrible it is to be posh and privileged.

0:24:210:24:25

-Brian.

-John.

-What have you done?

-I don't know.

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They've confiscated all my instruments.

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Years of music and ideas.

0:24:330:24:35

Unheard demos, DATs, rough mixes, 12 inch mixes...

0:24:350:24:39

Brian, what have you done? Please tell me.

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It doesn't matter how weird, I can take it.

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Nuns, newts, flatulence, biscuits, I don't care what it is, just tell me.

0:24:440:24:48

-Brian Cornelius Pern?

-Yes.

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Is this about the poll tax EP I released with The Levellers in 1990?

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I realise I made some damning comments about the constabulary.

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No, it's much more serious than that, sir.

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You are suspected of harbouring a known criminal

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and felon known as Ali Qu'ack.

0:25:040:25:07

What?

0:25:070:25:08

Jesus Christ. Is that it? You're arresting him for that?

0:25:080:25:12

What do you mean, "Is that it?" It's a very serious crime, sir.

0:25:120:25:14

You're making a terrible mistake.

0:25:140:25:16

Ali Qu'ack is one of the greatest musicians in the world.

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Not according to the Foreign Office, sir.

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He's a convicted kidnapper, forger and human trafficker.

0:25:210:25:24

This is one of your peasant bloody flute players, isn't it?

0:25:240:25:26

Terrible news.

0:25:260:25:28

-What is going to happen to me?

-Nothing. They're letting you go.

0:25:280:25:30

You come to my client's home and arrest him with some spurious guff

0:25:300:25:33

about a fucking Iranian camel rustler, where's the proof?

0:25:330:25:35

Hang on a minute, who are you?

0:25:350:25:36

I'm your worst nightmare. Where's the proof?

0:25:360:25:38

We've got payments from his account.

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Yes, from a session recording, you plum.

0:25:400:25:43

You can't vet every musician who records at his studio,

0:25:430:25:45

it's like arresting Fred West's landlord, for fuck's sake.

0:25:450:25:48

You're going to release him now, and you're going to make a full apology

0:25:480:25:51

on the news tonight, or I'm on the phone to Theresa May

0:25:510:25:53

and you're directing traffic in Norwich on Monday morning.

0:25:530:25:56

-Have you got that?

-Yeah, right.

-Yeah, right.

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It's me. Do Dave and Theresa still want comps for Mungo Jerry?

0:26:040:26:08

-That was amazing.

-Shall we go and get a pint?

-Yes. What is a pint?

0:26:120:26:16

Brian! You are OK! You are not in Wormwood Scrubs.

0:26:160:26:20

No, it was a false alarm. How are the house band, Ned?.

0:26:200:26:23

I don't know, there haven't been any songs yet.

0:26:230:26:25

What do you mean no songs? it's the interval.

0:26:250:26:27

-I know, it was like watching a play or something.

-Yes.

0:26:270:26:29

-What?

-No songs.

0:26:290:26:31

-What's happened to all my songs?

-Er, we cut all the songs, Brian.

0:26:350:26:39

You cut all the songs in the first half?

0:26:390:26:41

No, we've cut all the songs from the entire show, Brian.

0:26:410:26:43

-What?

-It was a unanimous decision, wasn't it? The songs are too long.

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It was slowing up the story.

0:26:480:26:50

But it's a jukebox musical.

0:26:500:26:52

It's a jukebox musical but without the music.

0:26:520:26:54

-See, that's never been done before.

-It's clever.

0:26:540:26:56

But the fans want to hear Thotch music.

0:26:560:26:58

No, but this isn't about the fans, Brian.

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This is about enticing in new audiences,

0:27:010:27:03

and they don't want to sit through 43 minute numbers about frogs

0:27:030:27:06

and crows and fairies and shit.

0:27:060:27:09

Have you spoken to Pat and Tony about this?

0:27:090:27:12

Right, Pat, so, what's going on is that

0:27:120:27:15

the musical's running a bit too long

0:27:150:27:17

so we're thinking about taking the music out of the musical.

0:27:170:27:20

That's a terrible idea.

0:27:200:27:22

-Have you told Brian about it?

-No, no. Can't get hold of him.

0:27:220:27:26

Well...

0:27:270:27:28

Well, he'll hate it, I'm sure.

0:27:280:27:30

Actually, erm...

0:27:300:27:31

I think you might be on to something here.

0:27:310:27:33

Yeah.

0:27:330:27:34

-Yeah, yeah. They're fine with it.

-Well, I am not!

0:27:340:27:37

The show will not go on.

0:27:370:27:38

What? There's a full house out there.

0:27:380:27:40

This is my band, my songs, my vision and my investment.

0:27:400:27:43

Unless you're prepared to go out there and sing those songs,

0:27:430:27:46

you will remain here.

0:27:460:27:47

Listen, it may be your music, mate,

0:27:470:27:49

but this is my show and this is my cast.

0:27:490:27:52

-I mean it.

-Yeah, well, so do I.

0:27:520:27:54

-OVER TANNOY:

-..beginners to stage, please.

0:27:540:27:57

-The show will not go on.

-Open the door, Brian! Don't be a dick!

-No.

0:27:590:28:03

How are we supposed to get out?

0:28:030:28:04

-Work it out for yourself, Sherlock.

-I don't fucking play Sherlock.

0:28:040:28:07

I don't care. I don't watch the programme anyway. I prefer Bergerac.

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