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This programme contains strong language

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This year is the 10th anniversary of the 20th anniversary

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of the non-release of Brian Pern's musical version

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of The Day Of The Triffids.

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To celebrate, Brian plans to stage the entire album

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live from the peak of Mount Kilimanjaro in Africa

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with a host of special guests.

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Brian has allowed multi-award-winning documentary maker Rhys Thomas, OBE,

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unlimited access backstage to this groundbreaking show.

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This is Brian Pern: A Life In Rock.

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Right, Brian, a couple of things before we get down to business.

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Who Do You Think You Are, the genealogy programme, has been in touch.

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They seem to think they can get a very good show out of your ancestry.

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What have they discovered?

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It turns out you are related to the first official lesbian.

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And the bloke who invented the top hat.

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Hmm. Interesting.

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Yeah. That's what I thought. Anyway, I turned it down for you.

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Why?

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You're too busy. You'll be rehearsing the greatest hits tour.

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-Oh, I wanted to talk to you about that, John.

-Oh, yeah?

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You see, I was remastering some old tracks for the anthology box set,

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and I came across The Day Of The Triffids album.

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Do you know it's 36 years old this year?

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And you still haven't fucking finished it.

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John, I want to stage a one-off concert on the summit of Mount Kilimanjaro,

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like we initially planned in 1977.

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It's so much more relevant now,

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with GM crops, nature turning against man.

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Brian, do understand how much a one-off concert like that would cost?

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I don't care about the cost, John. This is for the planet.

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Every second, a moth dies in Africa due to be effect of wi-fi on their wings.

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Did you know that?

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No, I didn't.

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So you want me to call Live Nation, call off the tour?

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Yes.

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And ask them to put up money for you to perform an unreleased album of unheard material,

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live from the peak of one of the remotest mountains in the world?

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I don't think it's too much to ask.

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CLASSICAL MUSIC

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As far back as 1967, I always wanted to write my own rock opera. Er, yeah.

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-MAN:

-I recall lending Brian my copy of The Day Of The Triffids, which I'd been given for Christmas,

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and I'd hidden some mucky pictures inside.

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I used to pass it round the dorm.

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They'd borrow it for a little knob wattle

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and then hand it back, you know?

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Anyway, typically, Brian, he borrows the book for a week.

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Doesn't look at the pictures - oh, no.

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He's reading the bloody thing and then he hands it back,

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and he's mapped out this entire rock opera.

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Lyrics, notes, chords, the whole shebang. Yeah.

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And oh, yeah, there's the mucky picture!

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HE LAUGHS

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It's pretty tame by today's standards

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but I would, wouldn't you?

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Pink Floyd have recently released Live In Pompeii,

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which was essentially four blokes melting

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on some bloody volcanic rock formation.

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So Brian thought Thotch could go one better,

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and put on a musical version of Day Of The Triffids,

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live from the peak of Kilimanjaro,

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complete with actors,

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meteor showers, 10-foot triffids - Jesus Christ.

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Brian got us in to rehearse for the show, and we worked from his demos,

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and, well, we improved them, frankly.

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And then we saw the mock-up of the posters -

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Brian Pern's musical version of The Day Of The Triffids,

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and I thought, "Where the hell are our names?"

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This was supposed to be a Thotch project.

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Jesus, I'm not a fucking, you know, session musician.

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So I told him to go fuck himself with the rough end of a pineapple.

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And um...

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..we haven't spoken since.

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Good evening. No, I'm not Bob Harris after the operation.

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I'm Anne Nightingale, looking after the Whistle Test this week.

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Brian Pern appeared on the Old Grey Whistle Test -

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his first solo appearance -

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and it was a bit of a shock to all of us really,

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because he turned up as a giant triffid.

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Well, since I've left Thotch, I've been spreading my wings a little.

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We're now doing a full Day Of The Triffids album.

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We've recorded quite a lot of music

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and the way it's going, it could end up maybe, double, quadruple.

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I felt that the album needed a form of verbal spine.

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I thought,

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"Why don't we get a big film star to do the narration for the album?"

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And we are very lucky to have Mr Roger Moore.

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Well, to cut a long story marginally shorter,

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I was in the middle of filming The Wild Geese in some sandy place,

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playing the main goose, of course,

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when I had a phone call from my agent

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saying that a rock star called Brian Pern, of whom I'd never heard,

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wanted me to narrate his musical version of Day Of The Triffids,

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which happened to be one of my favourite books,

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along with The Very Hungry Caterpillar.

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-WOMAN:

-I mean, no-one knew what a triffid looked like, did they? Cos they didn't exist.

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So I took it upon myself to just make it up.

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I went down Kew Gardens in the middle of the night

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and I nicked all sorts of rare plants, flora, fungi.

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It's amazing what one woman, a small axe and 30 bags of speed can do!

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BAND PLAYS

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-ROGER MOORE:

-This can't be happening! It was a meteorite!

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Am I the only one who can see?

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# The triffids descend from the skies

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# To sting your eyes...

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Who is to blame for this catastrophe?

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The Russians, or tearaway kids?

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No. It's those wretched carnivorous triffids!

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What you have to remember is that it had never been done before.

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An actor on a rock album? Are you crazy? It was unheard of back then.

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20-a-penny these days. Everyone does it.

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I can think of at least... no examples.

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BAND PLAYS

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Unheard of back then but it came at a price. Hated each other.

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After we'd recorded the first two tracks we went back to Abbey Road

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and he made me record every word in the English language separately,

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in several different styles -

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excited, scary, scared, sexy, with indigestion -

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just so that he had all of the options

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to stitch everything together.

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In the end, he took 13 years,

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cos he kept coming back and he never actually finished the album.

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Well, yeah, that was not really my fault, although it was my fault.

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But anyway.

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Which is why the album still hasn't been released

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and I've never been paid.

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The bastard - excuse my Dutch.

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Of course Jeff Wayne nicked the idea.

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He was in the studio next to us all along

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with the fucking cup to the wall.

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He also nicked the idea of using a wild goose narrator.

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We had Moore, so we go Burton.

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Fortunately Jeff's a client, has been for 40 years so...every cloud.

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To prepare for the Kilimanjaro concert, Brian is staging a warm-up

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show at Wembley Arena three weeks before the actual performance.

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I like to get involved in every aspect of the production.

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I have mandate and veto on every little piece of the jigsaw,

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otherwise the jigsaw will have a piece missing.

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OK, I must reiterate this is completely meat-free concert.

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We have a zero tolerance policy on all meat products.

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I don't want any meat traded, sold in the auditorium, front of house,

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in a foyer, backstage.

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-OK?

-Fine.

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Only query we have from the arena management is where you

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stand on jelly babies.

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Jelly babies?

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They contain gelatine which is a by-product of cow,

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pig and other animal skin and bone.

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In that case, John, they're off the menu.

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Problem is Bassetts are a big sponsor.

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-They have donated a heck of a lot of dosh.

-I don't think so, John.

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Once you let one in, you open the floodgates, you know?

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It's wine gums, fruit pastilles, flying saucers,

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fireman's laces, star mix.

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I don't want to get embedded with the...

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Is there some kind of vegetarian jelly baby on the market?

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I don't know, Brian.

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I'll put that on my list of pointless things to do this week.

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With weeks to go before the concert,

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Brian must undergo a medical test for insurance purposes.

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He has come to Harley Street for a check-up.

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-So your blood pressure is rather high which concerns me.

-Really?

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Yep, and it sounds like you have a heart murmur

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so I would like you to have an ECG scan so that we can establish

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whether it's harmless or not or whether it's caused by acquired

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valve disease or a congenital defect.

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-OK.

-Brian, couple of snags.

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-Roger Moore cant make it in person at the warm-up show.

-Why?

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-He's stuck in New Zealand filming.

-What?

-Don't panic.

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-He's gonna do it live on Skype from his hotel room.

-Right.

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-Big concern is the ticket sales for the warm-up show.

-Why?

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The promoters put sold out on the posters too soon so everybody

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actually thinks the show has sold out and they stopped buying tickets.

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-So the show hasn't sold out?

-No. Of course not.

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You're performing your latest album in its entirety.

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Nobody wants to hear that shit. They want hits. I did tell you.

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But, John, it's an unheard masterpiece.

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You've got to get out there, do a big publicity push.

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I've got you on The Wright Stuff tomorrow morning.

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Don't make me go on The Wright Stuff. I hate publicity, John.

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You know I believe that the music should speak for itself.

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Well, your music will be speaking to a fuckload of empty seats on Friday

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unless you do something about it.

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CHEERING

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On the panel today, it's internet vine sensation,

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comedian Shits and Giggles.

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CHEERING

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We have got annoying Australian author and broadcaster, Kathy Lette.

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CHEERING

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And finally, rock star, campaigner

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and lead singer of the Thotch, Brian Pern.

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So you want me to go on television and say the show is not sold out?

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No, no, no, no. Don't do that, for Christ's sake.

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-We don't want them to think we haven't sold out.

-I'm confused.

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Brian, you're playing a warm-up gig, is that right, at Wembley Arena?

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-That's right.

-And what exactly are you warming up for?

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We're putting on a concert,

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the first concert at the summit of Mount Kilimanjaro.

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We are raising awareness for moths that are dying in Africa.

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Fantastic stuff. Where can we get tickets to see the show?

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You say tickets have sold in record time

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but some extra ones have just been released, OK?

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-Well, I'm afraid the concert's sold out.

-I'm sorry. We've got to move on.

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We've got to get to the headlines.

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So what's your story from the papers, please?

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Oh, this is a story from The Lancet.

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It essentially ties in with the concert.

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Moths are dying across the world

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from wi-fi signals.

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It's interfering with

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their navigation systems

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and they're having terrible headaches

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and they're literally falling from the skies.

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The article suggests that we ban wi-fi around moths

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-and I just wonder what the audience thinks.

-Man at the back? Flaky skin.

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-Yeah.

-I think we all live with wi-fi today. You can't just throw it away.

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I use wi-fi 60% of the day. I use a moth 0% of the day or about that.

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-So, yeah.

-OK. Good point. Clearly, it's a tough issue, isn't it, Kathy?

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It is a tough issue.

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Moths to me are butterflies without the personality, aren't they?

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LAUGHTER

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So I say get out the mothballs.

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Minge!

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-Can I just actually say that we haven't sold out?

-The man in the front.

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Yeah, I think it is a bit of a joke, actually,

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him saying that he's going to save the moths

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but he finds it apparently impossible to just

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sign a photo of himself which I've sent to him

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with a stamp-addressed envelope and he can't even do that

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and then pop it in the post or get one of his many minions to put it

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in the post for him.

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This is typical, Matthew,

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of the attitude that these rock'n'roll stars have to all

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the fans who dedicate their time and their money to their careers.

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Let me tell you, Brian Pern, I've spent

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thousands of thousands of pounds on you over the years - the albums

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and the singles and the bass player's shit solo albums, right?

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And incidentally, you owe me an apology for all the sex that

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I missed out on before I got married cos women would come back

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to my house, I'd play your music - taxi home. That was it.

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And if I'd played them something like Simply Red, I would've been

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boffing them every which way. It's not funny.

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I got up at five o'clock this morning, come from Basingstoke just

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so I could maybe catch you on the way in for a little selfie, right?

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But no, you couldn't spare five poxy seconds

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for one poxy little photograph.

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Cos you were too busy coming in here

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and sitting down and probably having some croissants or something.

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I'm telling you what - you've sold out. You're just...

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-Get off it.

-Oooh.

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What did you bring your manager in for, Brian?

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LAUGHTER

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Minge!

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-Hello, John.

-Brian, good news.

-Just wait. I'm just on the phone.

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We've got great sponsorship offers from Millets, Lilywhites, North Face

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and Blacks for the Kilimanjaro show

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and all they want in return is a few free tickets.

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I don't want anything to do with Blacks, I'm afraid.

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-Why not?

-I'm not a fan of Blacks, to be honest.

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I'm sure they're perfectly decent people. It's just a personal thing.

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Blacks are donating a lot of money and equipment, Brian.

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John, if you want the truth,

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Steph had a thing with a member of staff at the Oxford Street branch

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and it's all a bit raw so I'd rather just stay away from Blacks, if possible.

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Later that day, Brian's come to Wembley for a tech rehearsal.

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-There he is. Racist.

-Egg him!

-Oi!

-Oi, you tosser!

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You racist!

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What are you doing? They're egging me.

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Fuck off, Brian!

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What's going on, John?

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There's protestors outside throwing eggs at me.

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-I've been calling you all morning. Have you seen Twitter?

-No.

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Look at this.

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I'm not a fan of Blacks, to be honest.

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What is this?

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This one's quite funny, as it goes. They've put music with it.

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I'm not a fan of Blacks, to be honest. What is this?

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Some sound fuck-up on The Wright Stuff.

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Your mike was still live when you said you didn't want anything to do

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with Blacks whilst promoting your benefit concert in Africa.

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-This is terrible.

-I don't know.

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Bad publicity is better than none at all.

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And the show's sounding like shitcakes.

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-I need to issue a statement.

-Fine. Do it live on The One Show.

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They want an exclusive with you. Make sure you plug the show.

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We've got just 24 hours to fill seats

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and buy some Calpol to save some moths.

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-I'm not comfortable with this, John.

-I am.

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It's the only way we'll sell out.

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-What's this?

-Oh, it's the triffid.

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It's nice, isn't it?

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# One, one, one. #

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Brian, before we talk about The Day Of The Triffids concert,

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I have to ask you about this footage that's been leaked online,

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because it's pretty shocking, isn't it?

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Yes, the whole thing's been a huge misunderstanding.

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I was on the phone to...Blacks. Not Blacks. Blacks the clothing store.

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Yes.

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So we have released some more tickets for the show, some seats aside

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and both sides actually, so please come.

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Come on, come all.

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Now here's Gyles Brandreth with his report

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on the hidden benefits of starch.

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-MELVYN BRAGG:

-Finally, it's the night of the show

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and with the eyes of the world watching,

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Brian is about to unleash

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his Day Of The Triffids rock spectacular

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into the universe.

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These days, obviously, one can download an album onto an iPod

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but can one download a live experience?

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The warmth, the crowd, the interaction, the swaying hands,

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the mosh pits, the sweat, the heat, the body odour, the lager fumes.

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I'm actually feeling a little sick now.

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Um...no.

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-> Brian?

-Yes?

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-Mark and Paul have come to see you.

-Oh, they haven't, have they?

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-Hi, Brian! How's it going, son?

-Yes.

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-Hey, Brian.

-Good luck tonight, mate.

-Yes, hi.

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-Fancy a few beers after the show?

-Well, I don't drink.

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Paul's got an idea.

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Yeah, we were thinking that perhaps, we could get up at the end

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and do like a funky Jailhouse Rock kind of thing.

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Yeah. I've got my bass.

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I don't think so. Thank you.

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Anyway, nice to meet you and I hope you enjoy the show.

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-Have a good one, mate.

-Thank you very much.

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Sorry, guys. He's a bit nervous.

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Oh, God!

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CROWD CHEERS AND WHISTLES

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-Brian, good luck. Have a good show.

-Thanks.

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APPLAUSE

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I'd like to thank you all for coming.

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Nature has always been at war with man.

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This is the Day Of The Triffids.

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And I'd just like to say that I'm not a racist.

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APPLAUSE

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MUSIC STARTS

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HE GROANS

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Come in. HE CHUCKLES

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Jesus Christ, somebody wake him up.

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HE SNORES

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KNOCKING

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Oh, shit!

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Oh, bollocks. Oh.

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HE CHUCKLES

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Oh...on a day that you happen to know is Wednesday

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starts off sounding like Sunday,

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there's something seriously wrong somewhere.

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I woke from my sleep, my eyes covered in bandages,

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to the sound of silence.

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I took off my bandages and looked out of the window

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and to my horror,

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I saw hundreds of people swarming around,

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all bumping into things like morons.

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Had they lost their minds?

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No - they were blind!

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DRAMATIC MUSIC

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Blind! Blind!

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Bloody blind! Blind!

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This can't be happening!

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It was a meteorite!

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Am I the only one who can see?

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# The triffids descend from the skies

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# To sting your eyes...

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Who's to blame for this catastrophe?

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The Russians? Or tearaway kids? No.

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It's those wretched carnivorous triffids.

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# The triffids descend from the skies

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# To sting your eyes

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# And take our lives...

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The triffid wreaked havoc as it shat poison from its pores,

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squirting blindness left and right

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like a psychotic green berk with stems but no mercy.

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All around, people screamed in fear.

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Within seconds, the whole of Essex was blind.

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Billericay, Whitford, Shenfield.

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Oh, shit! Bollocks!

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Who are you? What?

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-MAN:

-I first met Brian

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when he was working on his Day Of The Triffids song.

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He had this wonderful backing track

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for a song he wanted to call Vegetative Lovers.

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But Brian was never great on lyrics.

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He was under pressure to get the record finished

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so his manager called up and asked me to have a go.

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Whoosh, whoosh! Oh!

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What an ugly beast!

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-TIM RICE:

-It was very controversial, of course.

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Brian's adaptation of the story included a love-making scene

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between the female protagonist and a triffid.

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# Plant or man, what is this?

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# Plant or man?

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# Plant or man, what can you be?

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# Who are you to hurt me?

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# No! What will our issue be?

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# Man or tree?

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It was the seventies, after all.

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Everyone was pushing boundaries in taste, and in horticulture.

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I was very keen to explore the sexuality of these plants.

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They had desire to kill, to feed on flesh.

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Surely, they had the same desire to reproduce.

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# Oh, don't synthesise me!

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# Your tendrils, like a beanstalk, are all around me...

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The triffid held her delicately as it eased in the stamen

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and hammered his bulbs away with ape-like ferocity.

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# Oh, vegetative lover

0:20:450:20:50

# Oh, vegetative lover...

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Who'd have known that making love with a plant

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would be so exciting, yet so devastating?

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SHE SQUEALS

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But it didn't go down well with Germaine Greer or Percy Thrower,

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I can tell you.

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HE PLAYS SOLO

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OK, so during the drum solo, one Triffid crack down,

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I would like to run to the back of the auditorium

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and appear amongst the audience,

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give the people in the cheaper seats a bit of a thrill, make them feel part of the show.

0:21:240:21:28

DRUM SOLO CONTINUES

0:21:280:21:32

Where the fuck is it? They're walking out!

0:21:450:21:47

Excuse me! What are you doing?

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-You have ticket?

-No, of course not - I'm on stage!

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You have pass for get in?

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No - I am Brian Pern, I'm the lead man here!

0:21:550:21:57

To get through here, you must have ticket pass.

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-But I must be back on stage! This...

-I don't make the rules.

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Get Paul and Mark on, quick!

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-It's me - look!

-Are you saying I'm stupid?

-No! That's me, there!

0:22:060:22:09

-That is you?

-I am...

0:22:090:22:10

-Then I must see your bottom.

-What?

0:22:100:22:12

-I must see your bottom!

-Why?

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Bottom is like fingerprint - I see on National Geographic.

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The crack of your arse be like a fingerprint.

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-I will identify you from this.

-You're joking!

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Whoo!

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Ladies and gentlemen, Mark King!

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-Let me see your arse!

-I can't show you!

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-I want to see your bottom! Give me your bottom!

-Get out the way!

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# Every time you go away

0:22:340:22:39

# You take a piece of me with you

0:22:390:22:44

# Hoo...

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# Couldn't take his eyes off Joe and me

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# Looking back, it's so bizarre

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# It runs in the family

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# All the things we are...

0:23:000:23:02

# Looking back, it's so bizarre

0:23:020:23:04

# Hey, hey...

0:23:040:23:05

LOUD MUSIC, CHEERING

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Oh, God - aftershow parties these days,

0:23:300:23:32

they're just...they're dreadful.

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We used to have them, you know, at places like Kensington Roof Gardens.

0:23:340:23:37

Somewhere like that. They were fantastic.

0:23:370:23:39

These days, it's either in the bloody Ramada Inn

0:23:390:23:42

with a cash bar

0:23:420:23:43

or some shitty hospitality room down in some fucking basement

0:23:430:23:46

next to the bogs which reeks of roadies' arseholes.

0:23:460:23:50

Ha, well, aftershow parties, they were crazy.

0:23:500:23:53

The old cliche - dwarves with cocaine on their heads.

0:23:530:23:56

That's all true.

0:23:560:23:57

Yeah, it was a company called Short Snorts

0:23:570:23:59

who were the go-to people for dwarves and cocaine.

0:23:590:24:01

They provided both, with the dwarves at half-price.

0:24:010:24:04

I mean, you couldn't do that now,

0:24:040:24:05

it's not politically correct, of course.

0:24:050:24:07

And also it's very difficult

0:24:070:24:08

because the little buggers kept moving around.

0:24:080:24:10

You'd be...like that.

0:24:100:24:12

This is aftershow party, yes?

0:24:130:24:14

Yes, but you must have gold wristband. Only for cool people.

0:24:140:24:17

-Yes.

-Hey.

0:24:170:24:18

Hello. Ned. Come on. I want to go.

0:24:180:24:21

Hey, Brian! Brian, Brian! Come here. I have something for you.

0:24:210:24:25

Yes. Thank you. Goodnight.

0:24:250:24:28

See you, Brian.

0:24:280:24:30

-Bye, Ned.

-GLASS SHATTERS

0:24:300:24:32

Oh, you prick.

0:24:320:24:34

That was a good show tonight, Brian. Well done.

0:24:340:24:36

-I don't want to talk about it.

-You sure you want to go?

0:24:360:24:38

It's just getting warmed up back there.

0:24:380:24:40

Yes, I don't really like parties, as you know.

0:24:400:24:42

I could have got my nuts wet, though. Did you see that bird?

0:24:420:24:45

The prospect of you getting your nuts wet

0:24:450:24:47

-doesn't really appeal to me very much, Ned.

-It does to me.

0:24:470:24:51

-Put the radio on, Brian.

-No.

0:24:530:24:55

It's a bit boring in the back.

0:24:550:24:57

-So, Brian, your ECG results are back.

-Right.

0:24:570:24:59

-You do have a heart murmur.

-Oh, God.

0:24:590:25:02

But it's probably harmless.

0:25:020:25:04

But I'd like you to keep an eye on things

0:25:040:25:06

and avoid all stress for a while.

0:25:060:25:08

So I'm not going to die any time soon, then?

0:25:080:25:11

-No, not for a good while yet.

-HE CHUCKLES

0:25:110:25:13

But you could have a stroke.

0:25:130:25:16

At any moment.

0:25:160:25:17

So, seriously, Brian, take a rest.

0:25:180:25:21

But I have a charity gig to do at the top of Mount Kilimanjaro.

0:25:210:25:26

-SHE SIGHS

-I can't tell you what to do.

0:25:260:25:29

At the end of the day, it's your choice,

0:25:290:25:31

but I would strongly advise against the trip.

0:25:310:25:34

OK.

0:25:360:25:37

Brian, Millets came up trumps

0:25:380:25:40

and have donated a huge whack to the Kilimanjaro concert.

0:25:400:25:43

They're supplying all the camping equipment.

0:25:430:25:45

Blacks have forgiven you

0:25:450:25:46

and they've offered a generous donation to the charity

0:25:460:25:49

and BBC1 have agreed to broadcast the show live.

0:25:490:25:52

That's great, John. When do we fly out?

0:25:520:25:54

Well, we fly on Friday but I'm afraid you don't.

0:25:540:25:58

-So I'm flying out on Saturday?

-No.

0:25:580:26:00

-You want me to fly on Sunday?

-Brian, you don't fly at all.

0:26:000:26:05

Ah, you want me to go by boat?

0:26:070:26:09

Lower carbon emissions, good thinking.

0:26:090:26:11

Brian, please don't make me spell this out.

0:26:110:26:14

I don't know how to say this so I'm going to do it in French.

0:26:170:26:20

HE SPEAKS FRENCH

0:26:210:26:23

Oh, I see.

0:26:420:26:45

-I'm sorry.

-It's OK.

0:26:460:26:49

Who's going to replace me?

0:26:500:26:52

-Is it Jeff Wayne?

-Don't...don't torture yourself.

0:26:520:26:55

No, it's OK. I can take it.

0:26:550:26:57

It is, isn't it?

0:26:590:27:00

Was that a nod? I can't see you.

0:27:010:27:03

-I've got my hand in front of my face.

-Yep.

0:27:030:27:05

Jeff and Sting.

0:27:050:27:08

HE SIGHS

0:27:080:27:10

And Mike Batt.

0:27:110:27:13

It was either get somebody as famous as them

0:27:180:27:20

or they'd broadcast the show on BBC4 rather than BBC1

0:27:200:27:23

and I knew you'd do whatever it took

0:27:230:27:25

to get the biggest audience possible for the moths.

0:27:250:27:30

Of course. Of course.

0:27:300:27:32

On the plus side,

0:27:350:27:36

Madame Tussauds in Antwerp

0:27:360:27:38

have just delivered your waxwork for approval.

0:27:380:27:41

Oh, is it any good?

0:27:420:27:44

I'll have a look.

0:27:520:27:53

HE SIGHS

0:27:550:27:58

Yeah. It's very good.

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