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Brian Pern was a one-off. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
He was a gifted musician, a great songwriter, | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
and, possibly, the best frontman ever in Thotch. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
I can think of three Brians in rock music, | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
and he was certainly one of them. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
In the early days, of course, we were rivals. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
His band famously ripped off ours, | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
and I gazumped him to the part of Buster. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
I'm Buster Edwards. Which one of youse is a grass? | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
But, as time went on, we grew closer and closer. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:39 | |
And we became great, great friends, although I never actually met him. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
Whether you liked Brian Pern's music or not, | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
his heart was always in the right place. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
Even if sometimes the notes weren't. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
He will be sorely, sorely missed | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
by some people. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:55 | |
Available now, £14.99. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
Was that sad enough? | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
# Civic centre... # | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
Brian Pern's death shocked the world. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
In this special documentary, | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
I'll be talking to those who knew Brian best. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
-His lovers... -He was such a magical part of my childhood. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
And, sadly, a not-so-magical part of my adulthood. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
Brian is the only husband I truly loved. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
No! | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
His band... | 0:01:24 | 0:01:25 | |
His fans... | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
He wasn't afraid, Brian, to push the boundaries from pop to rock, | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
from rock to pop, from pop to pop, and rock to rock. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:39 | |
And the man himself in his final-ever interview. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
Believe it or not, I was the first choice to play Lofty in EastEnders. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:47 | |
# My love is the window And yours is the pane... # | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
I think of him as one of the giants of the music business. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
He is an absolute stone-cold genius. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
What a record maker this guy is. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
He was somebody, you know, you wanted to please. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
With him, you were like a lapdog, you just, you know, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
"What can I do to make it better?" | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
If there is such a thing as spirit or soul, | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
I think he was one of the ones who had a great soul, a great spirit. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
Brian was a songwriter, singer, drummer, guitarist, you know, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:18 | |
he can do it all. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
He's not bad. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
# The triffids descend from the skies... # | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
If everyone looked after their teeth as well as Brian did, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
I'd be out of a job. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
Every song had its hook that we could all sing collectively, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
no matter where you were. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
You could be in Japan, you could be in Botswana, it didn't matter. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:43 | |
I know that Brian was very precise. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
I will be coming across here as if I were a giant bird, swooping. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
That is one of the things I love about him. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
Brian was funny, shy, ever so clever, great musician, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
and a total twat. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
# Why are there no black folk in Jersey? | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
# Why are there no black folk in Sark...? # | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
What a tremendous honour to be in a position like that, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
where you can affect people's lives. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:05 | |
How many people in their lives get | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
the chance to do something like that? | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
'Hello and welcome to BBC News.' | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
The rock star and campaigner Brian Pern has died at the age of 66, | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
his spokesman has confirmed. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
The news comes just two days after the classic line-up of Thotch | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
released their first new single in 40 years. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:28 | |
As far back as I can remember, music has always been a part of my life. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
I was born making music. And I guess I'll die making it, too. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:50 | |
He lived at number 37. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
Now, fuck off! Jesus! | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
'In January this year, Brian Pern and Thotch secretly reunited to | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
'record a brand-new album, and I was asked to film an exclusive | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
'interview with Brian that would turn out to be his last.' | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
If you were to die tomorrow, what would be your biggest regret? | 0:04:13 | 0:04:19 | |
That's a hard question. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:22 | |
I guess... | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
I'd liked to have seen the film La La Land. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
See what all the fuss was about. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
I was thinking more, you know, in terms of not seeing your | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
son grow up or spending more time with your family. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
Not seeing my son grow up, and seeing more of my family. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:43 | |
It's very... It's hard to think | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
about Brian in the past tense, you know? | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
I think we're still, um, well, we are in shock, aren't we, really? | 0:04:49 | 0:04:55 | |
I'm actually over it now. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
Yeah. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
What was it that brought you all back together again after, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
you know, 35 years? | 0:05:04 | 0:05:05 | |
Well, it was a sad occasion, it was the death of Bennet St John, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
who was a founder member of Thotch, a great friend of mine who I | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
hadn't seen for 40 years, but just because you don't see someone | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
doesn't mean that you don't still think of them a lot. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
-Did you think of him a lot? -No. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
Brian called me, out of the blue, and said, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
"I've written a song for Bennet, called A Song For Bennet. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
"But it's not just for Bennet, it's a song for everyone we've | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
"lost in 2016, apart from Prince," - he made that very clear. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:34 | |
-What was it with you and Prince? Why not him? -I never got on with Prince. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
We never saw eye to eye, because he was only that big. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
For their first album in 38 years, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
Brian wanted to share creative control with the rest of | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
the band, apart from writing all the music, lyrics, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
designing the sleeve, the barcode and bringing in his own producer... | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
-Are you ready? -..Luke Dunmore. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
What was it like working with the whole band, | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
as opposed to just Brian? | 0:05:57 | 0:05:58 | |
Him on his own was bad enough, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
but it was like having five fucking Brians in the room. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
Can you imagine that? What's his name, Tony, he was all right. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
He was the most rock and roll, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:06 | |
and by that I mean he ate meat, now and again, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
but the rest of them, mate, they were a bunch of fucking flannels. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
The bass player, we might as well have been a fucking bollard. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
But he's the richest one, you know? | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
Wrote all of Thotch's biggest hits in the '80s. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
-Tight as fuck, wouldn't give a door a bang, the cunt. -It was marvellous. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
-Just six men making music with no distractions. -Come on! | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
It was without doubt the most wonderful time of my life. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
And I've been present at several of my children's births and at | 0:06:29 | 0:06:35 | |
least three of my own weddings. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
I don't think we ever got on so well. Bar one argument about Brexit. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
# A psycho just killed the USA | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
# Building walls with racist tools | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
# The land of the free don't come so cheap no more... # | 0:06:50 | 0:06:56 | |
At the start, he was phoning it in a bit. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
You know, relying on the old tricks from the Spirit Level days. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
I said, "Brian, you've written all these angry songs about Brexit, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
"about social injustice, climate change, stranded donkeys, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
"and you're singing them like a fucking pop star." | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
I said, "Sing them like it's the last thing you'll ever sing in your life." | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
# Whoa.... # | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
The story of Brian's fame began here, at Stowe, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
where he met Tony Pebble, Pat Quid and Bennet St John. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
They formed a band who would become known as Thotch, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
and would change the face of music forever. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
When the band left Stowe, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
they signed up with their first manager, "Big" Basil Steel. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
I will never forget hearing them playing live. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
Proper hair standing up on the back of your neck. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
In fact, the hair at the back of my neck wouldn't go down for | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
a fucking week. It was like a fucking porcupine. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
Back in 1971, I managed to get them on Top Of The Pops. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
Cos I was having it off with Pan from Pan's People at the time. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
They refused to go on. "We don't do Top Of The Pops, it's not cool." | 0:07:58 | 0:08:03 | |
Well, I hit the fucking roof. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
-I've still got a bump to prove it, here. Here, see. -Right. -Here. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
-Come and get... See. Feel that. -No, it's all right. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
Feel the fucking head, feel it! What's the matter with you? | 0:08:12 | 0:08:18 | |
-Yeah. -Yeah. -It's bad. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:19 | |
Despite losing their drummer to drugs, bass player to board games, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:24 | |
and part-time rhythm guitarist to politics and eventually | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
alleged war crimes, Thotch went on to become one of | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
the biggest-selling artists of the 1970s. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
# Christmas comes but once a year | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
# All the people raise good cheer | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
# Eat your turkey, scratch a leg | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
# Pray to Santa But don't you beg... # | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
But Brian left the band at the peak of their success to pursue a solo career. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:45 | |
That's when I invented the first rock video, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
which led to MTV, MTV Classic, MTV Punk, the ITV Chart Show, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
The Box, VH1, VH1 Classic, VH1 Alternative, and VH1 Classic 2. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:57 | |
While Brian was alive, he refused to talk about the true struggles | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
behind his early solo career and how close he came to bankruptcy. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:08 | |
But now he is dead, we can reveal all. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
Which is what he would have wanted. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
After Brian left the band, there was his commercially fallow period. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
He'd never accept this, but his career was virtually finished. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
But a lifeline came Brian's way in 1982, when Hallmark invented | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
cards that played music when you opened them, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
and Brian was asked to write the songs. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
I was contacted by Hallmark, and they said, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
"Can you do a whole string of these songs which will echo | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
"the various sentiments of Hallmark cards?" | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
I said, "If I'm helping people, I'll do it." | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
Several of the songs Brian recorded under the Hallmark contract | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
were released and made a decent impact on the Top 40. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
I did a...Get Well Soon. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
Get Well Soon entered the chart at number 13, | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
where it stayed for three consecutive weeks. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
Congratulations, You've Passed Your Driving Test. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
Well Done, You've Passed Your Exams. There were a lot of different songs. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
I'm Sorry To Hear Of Your Loss sold over a million cards and | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
spent nine consecutive weeks at number one on | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
the Clinton Card chart, thanks to this ground-breaking video. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:13 | |
# I'm so sorry to hear of your uncle's passing | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
# Only last week he was upstairs dancing | 0:10:17 | 0:10:22 | |
# Life and soul as he always was | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
# Life can't get any cheaper... # | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
There were a lot of different songs. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
I mean, it got to the point where I had to say, "No, no more." | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
Because it was diluting the message. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
Around '83, '84, Brian was dropped by his record label, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:42 | |
so he started his own, called Poggle. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
It was named after our cat. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
Poggle had climbed into the new Zanussi and was accidentally | 0:10:46 | 0:10:51 | |
put onto a 60-minute tumble. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
And when it came out, it looked pretty whacky. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
Brian funded his own records, tours, publicity, everything, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
which meant we had no money. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
# Equinox! Worm Power...! # | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
My album, Worm Equinox, had failed to chart, mainly because I | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
released it solely on a CD-ROM, which hadn't been invented yet. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
So Brian, like many other pop stars before him, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
turned his hands to acting, to make ends meet. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
Brian Pern had to be the worst actor we ever had on Doctor Who. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
Takes some beating, believe me. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
I'm the Doctor, are you in charge here? | 0:11:28 | 0:11:29 | |
You will remain silent. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
Sorry, it's just I'm quite concerned about a couple of friends | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
-I left here. -Who is this primitive? | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
When I was working with Brian, it was pre-Plasticine, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
so his career was really in the sink. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
He was trying to forge a career as an actor. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
-You must think me a fool. -Not at all. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
The trouble was he was shit. Utter shit. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
Talk about watch from behind the sofa. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
Fuck me, I didn't want to come out for a week. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
I could destroy you now. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
I could destroy you now. I could destroy you now. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
-I COULD destroy you now. -Let me see you try. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
I, I, ah... | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
Just kept uttering the same line over and over again. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
Drop the sonic device. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
-Drop it. -It isn't my day, is it? | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
Drop the sonic device. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
I feel as though you've just killed an old friend. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
Drop the sonic device. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
Luckily, his next album was a success so he never acted again. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
Thank Christ. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
In 1987, Brian had the honour of singing the latest James Bond | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
song, as he teamed up with Britain's other biggest recording artists. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:41 | |
Hey, you, don't watch that, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
watch this! | 0:12:44 | 0:12:45 | |
This is the James Bond sound - | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
the most Secret Service sound around. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
# Hey, driver, where we goin'? | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
# The Living Daylights | 0:12:56 | 0:12:57 | |
# I swear my nerves are showin' | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
# The Living Daylights | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
# Set my hopes up way too high | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
# Living's in the way we die | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
# Ah, ah, ah, ah The Living Daylights | 0:13:08 | 0:13:13 | |
# The Living Daylights. # | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
Hey, you, don't watch that, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
watch Octopussy! | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
Um... | 0:13:24 | 0:13:25 | |
Yeah. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:28 | |
A load of crap. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:13:30 | 0:13:31 | |
The single flopped horribly, so they asked some Dutch blokes | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
called A-hum to do it, and that's the version that's in the film. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
# The Living Daylights... # | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
I mean, I preferred the original. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
Surprisingly, one of the biggest hits of Brian's career | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
involved an unexpected collaboration with some stars of Eurovision. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:53 | |
So I called Brian, and I say, "Brian, are you sitting down?" | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
He says, "No." So I said, "I just had a phone call from Bobby G. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:04 | |
"The Fizz wants to work with Thotch." | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
And Brian says, "Eh." | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
I said, "Dude, are you crazy?! This is the fucking Fizz!" | 0:14:12 | 0:14:17 | |
# Love in the shadows | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
# Like a smoking gun... # | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
Went down to Pebble Mill and we did this tune. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:27 | |
# Is it really what you want One more broken heart? | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
# One more lost and lonely... # | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
We're making magic, OK? | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
It's one of those Pet Sounds moments. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
And the tune got to number 87 in the UK charts. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:46 | |
I don't have any memory of that collaboration. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
But the fame and the fortune came at a price. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
# In the cool light of the dawn... # | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
I was on my own a lot, and Mike Batt lived up the road in Laurel Canyon. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:01 | |
The kids loved him, because he was the Womble guy. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
# Remember you're a Womble... # | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
He would come over and chat, play me songs. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
One thing led to another. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
How did Brian find out? | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
Brian was away as usual, some crap with Desmond Tutu. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:18 | |
Mike came over and, for a joke, he put on his Orinoco costume. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
He said, "Have you ever been... F-worded by a Womble?" | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
Well, it was great for me, because it wasn't Mike doing it, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
it was Orinoco, and I didn't feel so guilty. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
Then...the door goes. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
It's Brian. He caught Orinoco mid-flow and... | 0:15:36 | 0:15:41 | |
..that was it. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
# I don't blame you... # | 0:15:44 | 0:15:45 | |
Later that week, Brian performed his latest song on Top Of The Pops, | 0:15:45 | 0:15:49 | |
and did this. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
We had absolutely no idea whatsoever that was going to happen. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
I don't think we should talk about Mike Batt. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
One of Britain's most successful pop singers is today asking | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
a High Court judge to declare his recording contract null and void. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
The record company wanted me to produce three albums in | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
two years, and I just didn't want to do it. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
I felt like a slave to the label. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
What's more, they owned the music, I didn't. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
So I had to sue my record company to get my life and my music back. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
-But you own your own record company. -That's right. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
-So you ended up, you sued yourself? -Yes. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:37 | |
-So, how much did you pay yourself to get out of your own contract? -Oh... | 0:16:37 | 0:16:43 | |
£6 million. Give or take. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
# The Earth is dying | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
# You're a bee who has died for me... # | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
Brian Pern was more than just a rock star, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
he was a tireless campaigner and used his music as | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
a platform to raise awareness of issues that no other rock star would | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
sing about, long before the likes of Bono, Bob Geldof or Black Lace. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
Of all the charities, what is the one that is closest to your heart? | 0:17:06 | 0:17:11 | |
It has to be my work with molluscs. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
This week is Mollusc Awareness Week. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
I have with me here the rock star and eco-campaigner Brian Pern. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:23 | |
-Brian, very nice to see you here. -Hello, Monty. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
Tell me about Mollusc Awareness Week. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
Well, I have a recording studio in the heart of the countryside, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
and many people come and lay down tracks there, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
and during the evening they may step out for a cigarette or just | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
a breath of fresh air - crunch, they tread on a snail. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
Some of the more heavier artists, like Elton John or Adele, | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
can kill up to ten snails in one fag break. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
And this is happening right around the globe, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
and it's snail genocide. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:49 | |
So what can you do to help snails? | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
I have been developing a new shoe, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
and the soul is made from a new polyfoam called Fedge. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
It's very light and very strong. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
And when someone steps on a snail, the weight is evenly | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
distributed and the snail is free to slide away quite happy. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:09 | |
-How much would that cost? -Well, this would retail for around £1,500. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:14 | |
That's a huge amount of money. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
It is a lot of money, Monty, but we are saving lives, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
the lives of snails. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
-Is it so much? -Well, yes. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
I'd love to see them work, if you can. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
Well, I am wearing a pair right now. Here we go. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
CRUNCH | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
Oh. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:36 | |
Despite two failed marriages, Brian finally found happiness at the end | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
of his life when he started a family with world musician Pepita Sanchez. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
# Santa Claus won't make me happy | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
# Santa Claus won't make me happy | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
# With a toy on Christmas Day... # | 0:18:51 | 0:19:03 | |
-Longer? -And what's life like as a married man and being a father? | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
Well, you know what? | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
It kind of grew organically, she was always around, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
I produced her albums. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
She recorded at Poggle Sound, | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
and all of a sudden she became part of my life. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
-Can we bonk? -No bonk. -No wine, no bonk. -No wine, no bonk. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:22 | |
-What is the point of life? -I've got a very busy schedule... | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
-Jeez, I don't... -Paolo Nutini coming in... | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
Oh, Paolo! | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
I need to sort out my bisa. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
I don't know, think I have the clearance for the bisa to stay here. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
-Ah, your visa. Well, we can do that later. -That's what I said. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
At the moment, we must do this song and we must do it right. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
OK. And then I get my bisa? | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
What's it like being a father at your age? | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
It's great, you know, I have so much more time to be with my little boy. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:41 | |
He comes out with me when we go down to the shop to buy croissants | 0:20:41 | 0:20:46 | |
and so forth. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:47 | |
What's his name? | 0:20:47 | 0:20:48 | |
When was the last time you saw Brian alive? | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
Um... | 0:21:22 | 0:21:23 | |
Yeah. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:24 | |
I actually had dinner with Brian two nights before he died, | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
with the wives, yeah. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
Well, you know, I had lunch with him the day before he died. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
Just the two of us. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
Um... | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
I saw him, actually, the night before he died as well. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
Just bumped into him. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
Well, actually, I saw him the morning he died. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:52 | |
I spoke to him, | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
I was actually on the phone to Brian as he died, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:05 | |
I heard him go, "Aaaargh!" | 0:22:05 | 0:22:06 | |
-Splat! As he hit the rocks. -No, you didn't. -I did. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
You didn't, we were having...a ploughman's lunch in the pub. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
-I wasn't. -Yes, you were! | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
What did you think when you heard he'd died? | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
What, he's dead? | 0:22:27 | 0:22:28 | |
Can you tell us about the last time you saw Brian. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
Christmas Eve, 2016. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
He, uh... | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
He came round to my apartment to drop off a present for Maddox, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
my son, who idolised him. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
Which was kind. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
What did he buy him? | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
Some special shoes that didn't kill snails if you trod on them. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:55 | |
The main headlines again. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
Tributes have been flooding in following the sudden death of | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
musician Brian Pern, who was killed in a Segway mistake this morning. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
Tom Hiddleston wrote... | 0:23:05 | 0:23:06 | |
"..especially the one I did about Hank Williams, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
"which was one of my greatest performances." | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
At first I thought it was fake news. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
Then... | 0:23:25 | 0:23:26 | |
Then we realised that... that it was...true news. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:31 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:23:31 | 0:23:32 | |
Although Brian's friends and family are devastated, there is one | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
person who has a very different theory regarding Brian's death. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
No, I'm not glum today, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:25 | |
because Brian is very much alive and they've got it wrong. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
-There are hidden symbols within the albums. -What exactly do you mean? | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
-What are you talking about? -Look at this. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
-Can you see, just there, in there? -I can't, I just see black. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
That's what you see, just black, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
but a real Thotch fan can see what's really there. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
-Can you see it? -Um, no, I... -Look closely. -I can't see anything. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
-The Eye of Horus. The Eye of Horus. -I can't see that. -Can you...? There. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
It's there, clearly. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
The Egyptian symbol of good, protection, of health, of power. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
It's there! | 0:25:57 | 0:25:58 | |
So, what, he's giving his fans a clue almost as to where he is? | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
He's set a trail. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:02 | |
It's like Hansel and Gretel with the breadcrumbs, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
the hidden symbols will lead the fans to his true relocation. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
-So why is he...? So you think he has faked his own death? -He's faked it. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
-100%. -What proof have you got? -I'll show you. OK. You see this? -Yeah. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:18 | |
This is the numeric placing of the alphabet. This is A-1, B-2, C-3, you see. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
-B, 2...Brian. -I see, right. -And then Pern. -Yes. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:27 | |
-The relative numbers to the letters in the alphabet. -I see. -Right. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
-So, multiply two. -Yeah. -By 18. -Yeah. -By nine. By one. -Yeah. -Times 14. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:36 | |
Now you divide that by the number of Thotch albums and solo albums. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:41 | |
-This is mad. Yeah. 3.4653? -That's it. -Right. -Yeah. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:47 | |
So what does that mean? | 0:26:47 | 0:26:48 | |
Well, I didn't know either, I was baffled. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
But I googled it, I came up with 3.4653 degrees, 62.2159 degrees. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:55 | |
-Yep. -The Amazonian rainforest. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
-So you think Brian is living in the Amazonian rainforest? -Absolutely. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
100 %. Do you know why Brian left us? Because he was sick of the fame. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
He was sick of the stardom, he was sick of the public harassment, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
he was sick of the paparazzi. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
He wanted freedom. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:10 | |
That's what Brian wants, is freedom, and I am going to go there, | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
to the South American rainforest, with the fan club, we're going | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
to hold a little convention, and I'm going to bring him back home. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
Right. But if Brian has faked his own death | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
in order to escape the fans, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
why would he leave clues for you to find him? | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
I'm going home. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:31 | |
You're wasting your time, you've got the wrong house. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
One person I found hard to pin down was Brian's manager of 40 years, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
John Farrow. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
However, he finally agreed to give me three of his precious minutes. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
-Is this going to take long? -No. -Good. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
Cos I've got a game of rounders in ten minutes with | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
Roger Waters and Joan Armatrading. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
So, what does Brian's death mean to you? | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
-Mean to me? -Yeah. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
Well, I don't know. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
20 million? | 0:28:05 | 0:28:06 | |
Because there's the new album, TV sales, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
the tribute concert film, rights to the Brian Pern biopic, | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
which now has a very sad ending, of course. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
And once the documentary goes out, | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
there'll be a huge spike in back catalogue sales, | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
and I'm not talking about this drippy BBC Four thing, I mean the | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
proper one that Martin Scorsese is doing for HBO and Netflix. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
Where were you when you heard that Brian had died? | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
Done that already with Scorsese, next question. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
When did you see Brian last, and can you remember what he said to you? | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
I can. But I just told Scorsese. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
Right. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:47 | |
So, the record company want to put out | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
a greatest hits album to coincide with the show. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
-Happy with that? -What about the one that went out last year? | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
That was the Best Of, not a greatest hits. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
What about the one before that? | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
That was the Essential Collection, not a greatest hits. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
And the one before that? | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
It was the Absolute Greatest, | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
which only contained the best of the best of the essential best. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
-But aren't we just ripping off the fans? -Yep. Fuck 'em. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:15 | |
People are saying that you are cashing in on Brian's death, | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
what with the rumours of the band reforming without him and then | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
all these remixes you've released very quickly after his death. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
Hey, hey, stop! "They"? Who are "they"? | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
Well, you know, the die-hard fans. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
The die-hard fans, I don't give a rat's biscuit what they think. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
Brian used to read what these so-called die-hard fans said | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
about him and his work on forums and Twitter, | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
and it would tear the poor guy apart. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
They think they own Brian. They don't. I do. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:44 | |
Did Brian make them the executors of his estate? | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
Did he leave it to one of his wives or his mentally challenged | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
offspring? No, he didn't. He left it to me, so fuck everybody, frankly. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
Listen, I have to put any personal feelings about Brian's death | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
aside, and think purely on a business level, | 0:29:57 | 0:29:58 | |
because that is what I am getting paid 20% to do. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
Brian's royalties do not pay me to grieve, they pay me to work. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
To keep him in the public eye, to keep his music fresh and alive, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
to attract a new audience, no matter what it takes. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
Not for me... | 0:30:11 | 0:30:12 | |
Well, a bit for me, but for him, for his wishes. So, yes, | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
I happily admit I have to cash in now to make the most for Brian, | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
not in a couple of years when everybody has forgotten him. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
Fuck, he's all right. He's got the easy bit. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
He's poodled off the edge of the cliff and said goodbye to all his troubles. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
Mine have only just begun, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:29 | |
so even in the afterlife the guy's a fucking pest. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
Who had to tell his various families that he'd left them fuck all? | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
And who had to dodge the pots and the pans that were chucked at | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
him when he informed them that he'd donated his 50 million | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
fortune to a trust that pays for homeless snails to be | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
rehoused in synthetic shells? | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
And to rehabilitate bats that can't hang upside down for | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
psychological reasons? | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
Me. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:53 | |
So don't give me all this cashing-in, | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
heartless manager bollocks, because you don't know the half of it. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
-Sorry. -I should think so. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
Um, you said just now how you had to put any personal feelings aside. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
Can I ask what those personal feelings are? | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
You can ask, but you won't get a fucking answer. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
Why, because it's too emotional for you? | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
No, because I just told Scor-fucking-sese. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
Anyway, you should watch that one instead, it'll be better than this. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
-It's in surround sound. -I've got one more question. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
What does the future hold for you? | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
Game of rounders in three minutes with Roger Waters and Joan Armatrading. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
-Anyway, that's it. Ta-ra. -Thanks for your time. -It's a pleasure. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:32 | |
Three weeks after Brian's untimely death, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
the remaining members of Thotch have begun preparations for a tribute | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
concert at the Royal Albert Hall in aid of Segway awareness. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
And I was given exclusive access to the rehearsals. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
Well, we thought this would be a good testing ground for a singer, | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
you know, who could take Brian's place, and, you know, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
it would make him feel more comfortable, so that we can keep | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
the band alive, and I'm sure this is what Brian would have wanted. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
So the Brian Pern tribute concert is basically a chance for you to | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
audition a new lead singer of Thotch to take on the road? | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
Exactly. That's what Brian would have wanted. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
And now we can reveal the new lead singer of Thotch for | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
the first time. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
Thotch, meet Mike Batt. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
Sorry I'm late. Anyway, let's get started. Have you got a chair? | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
Everyone is going to be interested in what songs are going to be | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
on the set list. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:28 | |
Well, I will be singing The Honeycomb Is Over, | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
but in the middle, of course, I'm doing all my own stuff. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
My new solo album, I'm doing all the way through. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
And some old ones like maybe Remember You're A Womble, | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
Wombling Merry Christmas, Bright Eyes, A Winter's Tale, that sort of thing. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
So you're going to sing one of his songs, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
and basically everything else is going to be your material? | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
Yeah, because I think that's what he would've wanted. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
Can I ask you another thing? | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
I mean, it is very well documented that you had an affair with | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
his wife. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:54 | |
-And... -Well... | 0:32:54 | 0:32:55 | |
Well, it's just, I know some people will be asking, you know, | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
what is your motive behind doing this? | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
You did say we wouldn't be talking about that. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
Would you mind, like, cutting so we can just talk about what | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
we're going to talk about before we actually talk about it? | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
-I mean, you said we were going to talk about Bright Eyes and... -Yeah. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
..all the work I've done with Steeleye Span and people like that, | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
so I don't think people are interested in, like, | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
whose porridge I stirred, like, 36 years ago. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
Forget it. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:22 | |
I have to say that I did make my peace with him, you know, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
before he went. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:30 | |
-OK. -Yeah, yeah... -You really made peace with him? -Well, no. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:36 | |
-Do you need us to be interviewed? -No, it's OK. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
-Who would you say was closest to Brian? -Well, probably... -Me. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:48 | |
Actually, come on, it was probably me. Really, to be honest with you. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:56 | |
I don't think so, Tony. I mean... Brian and I, we... | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
We had a kind of sixth sense about each other. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
Sometimes I could start a sentence and Brian could finish it, | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
and vice versa. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:09 | |
-Really? -Yes, I'm pretty sure that... -I just... -..I was... | 0:34:09 | 0:34:15 | |
-closer to Brian than anyone else. -I think you'll find... | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
Sorry, in his book, he does actually say he was closest to Pat, | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
you were like brothers. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
He called you a bimbo. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
Brian was my friend. When we were young, we... | 0:34:44 | 0:34:49 | |
-we messed it up. -He wasn't interested in getting his nuts wet. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
He... He wanted to work. And I will really miss him. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:58 | |
You know, I have been married many times, but I really think I | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
can say that Brian is the only husband I truly loved. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:11 | |
Apart from Shakin' Stevens. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
And Fish from Marillion. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
If you are listening up there, Brian, you... | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
You look after yourself, OK? | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
Can I read something? It's easier. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
"Stop all the clocks. Turn off the telephone. Stop the dog barking. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:40 | |
"It's annoying. Collect the dry cleaning. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
"Cancel the subscription to the TV listings magazine. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
"Brackets - there's nothing good on the telly anyway, just buy the big bumper Christmas one from now on. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:52 | |
"End brackets. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
"Clean up the bathroom. Clean the bird poop off the car." | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
That's the last thing Brian ever wrote to me. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
It's a list of chores he wanted me to do. I think that... | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
says it all, really. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
I was going through me mobile phone the other day, | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
and I found a message from Brian. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
He had arse-dialled me. He was... He was trying to buy some tiles. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:18 | |
He was in Topps...Topps Tiles. He was doing his new toilet. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
And it was just Brian, you know, being Brian. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:27 | |
And I stayed up all night listening to it. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
The day after he died. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
What did he go for? What tiles did he choose? | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
He plastered it in the end. And I... I can't... | 0:36:43 | 0:36:48 | |
Can't get myself to delete the message. And... | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
When I think of Brian, that's what I listen to, cos, | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
let's be honest, I'm not going to listen to any of his albums, am I? | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
Here's your tombstone. What's written on it? | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
Brian Pern. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:13 | |
'An hour ago, I got a phone call from a friend of mine working for | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
'the Discovery Channel. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
'He is editing a ground-breaking documentary about life in the | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
'Amazon rainforest, using over 100 unmanned, hidden cameras | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
'to capture animals as they have never been seen before. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
'Whilst spooling through thousands of hours of footage, he found | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
'something that would change the face of documentaries like this forever.' | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
-John, over here. -Shh, shh, shh! No, no, no. No names. Fuck's sake! | 0:37:57 | 0:38:03 | |
Here you are. I think I've got all the stuff. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
There's World At War on Blu-ray, photos of your son, and the sweets. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:10 | |
Oh, no, John, I distinctly told you. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
Vegan Percy Pigs from Marks & Spencer's, or their fruit jellies. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
-These are Haribo. -Jesus Christ, get a grip, Brian! | 0:38:17 | 0:38:21 | |
It's taken me four days and a fuck-load of effort to get here. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
-I made a mistake. I want to come home. -You can't go home, Brian. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
You can't! If anybody finds out about this, we are totally fucked. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:33 | |
You've got to stay here! | 0:38:33 | 0:38:34 | |
The canoe guy, he got six years and lost everything. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
Pull yourself together. The point is, it's worked. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
The album's gone straight to number one in the UK, | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
the States, Italy, Holland and Australia. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
-Zimbabwe? -Yeah, number two. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
-How did the band take it? -Terrible. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
Everyone was devastated, you were loved, Brian, you really were. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
The tribute show is on at the Albert Hall. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
And who have they got as a singer? | 0:38:55 | 0:38:56 | |
Someone young and cool, or old and legendary? | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
Sort of in the middle. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
Well, who? | 0:39:02 | 0:39:03 | |
Um... | 0:39:05 | 0:39:06 | |
(Mike Batt.) | 0:39:08 | 0:39:09 | |
Mike Batt?! | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
Isn't he one of your acts? | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
Shit, look at the time. I've got an elephant to catch. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
-Take care of yourself. I'll see you in six months, eh? -(John.) -Ta-ra. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:21 | |
Mike Batt! | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
RUSTLING | 0:39:27 | 0:39:28 | |
Hello? Is there someone there? Oh, Jesus Christ! | 0:39:28 | 0:39:33 | |
No-o-o-o-o-o! | 0:39:33 | 0:39:34 | |
Drop the sonic device. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
Drop the sonic device. | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
Um... | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
-You know, you could be a little bit sadder. -Hmm. -And, do you know what? | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
Can you do me a favour? Could you do it maybe without the book? | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
-Because it's product placement, and it's the BBC. -No, no, no, no, no. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:15 | |
It's the only reason I'm doing this. Couldn't stand the little prick. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
-All right, I'll try and split the difference. -OK. -OK. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
Do you have a tear stick? | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
Um... No. It's your house. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:30 | |
Could you think of something sad? | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 |