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Welcome back to Scotland's capital,

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where the world's biggest arts festival

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may be drawing to a close,

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but the city is still partying.

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Brexit means...

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Coming up...

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comedians respond to Brexit, British voters and Boris...

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Have a bendy banana.

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..ventriloquist Nina Conti on puppets, profound and profane...

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SCREAMING

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..refugees tell their own powerful stories of migration...

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..plus a special performance from The Lemon Bucket Orkestra,

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whose Guerrilla Folk Opera has had rave reviews.

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The repercussions of the vote to leave the EU

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are reverberating around the city.

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Spare a thought, then, for some of the Fringe performers who,

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in the light of the referendum result,

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have had to rewrite their material rapidly.

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The political upheaval of the past few weeks has hardly gone unnoticed

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by the hundreds of comedians performing here in Edinburgh...

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..and one big beast from the Brexit campaign

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has attracted particularly close attention.

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It's a new world, but I do believe, and I have done, felt strongly

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ever since at least March that...

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we're better off inside the EU.

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I mean, sorry... out, out, outside the EU. Sorry.

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You look particularly despondent, sir.

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-Have a bendy banana.

-Thank you.

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With the result announced just six weeks before the start of

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the Fringe, the referendum has very quickly taken centre stage.

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Brexit means Brexit.

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And Brexit means fuck all,

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cos Brexit is a made-up word.

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Do you think the referendum

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-kind of galvanised things for comics this year?

-Yes, I do, yeah.

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I mean, it's the same as any big event, whether it's an election

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or a referendum or, you know, a World Cup or anything like that.

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Big, major events attract ideas and they inspire people.

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It encourages people in the arts,

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in music and in comedy to talk about the things that define the eras.

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So what was it like for you when the vote became clear?

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For a while there was a period where I felt quite emotional

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-and then because of my line of work I...

-You went, "Wham, bam!"

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I felt very excited, yeah. I said, "Well, this is superb."

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Because I've been doing shows for years trying to convince people

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that politics is fascinating and I think it's fair to say most

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people take a bit of convincing. This referendum has proved it.

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Tattoo - probably voted Leave.

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Baguette - probably voted Remain.

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Tattoo and a baguette - pervert.

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When I woke up and saw the result, I thought, "OK, this has happened."

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At first I thought about the implications for our country,

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-obviously.

-Obviously.

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But then about an hour later I thought,

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"Wow, I've got 25 minutes

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"of absolutely irrelevant stand-up comedy."

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The second half of the show wasn't going to be like,

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"So we've remained in the European Union,"

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but I wanted to do a show about sort of economics and the kind of

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-changing nature of capitalism. You know, the fun stuff.

-Yeah.

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I wanted to do a show about that but it just suddenly seemed

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redundant to be talking about anything in politics

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other than the referendum after the result.

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Say what you will about the Labour Party,

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you have to give them credit cos they've looked across the bench

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at the turmoil engulfing the Conservative Party

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and reacted like this -

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"You call that political disarray? Sit down.

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"Let the professionals show you how it's done."

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-The referendum campaign threw up some great characters.

-Yeah.

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If you imagine, the kind of Shakespearean, you know,

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the Gove relationship with Boris, it's... You know.

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Yeah, it's absolutely incredible.

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I mean, I think that we didn't give the theatrical community

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enough time with the vote but I suspect next year we're going to

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get a lot of Macbeths with Michael Gove.

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I think that that's definitely... that's definitely coming.

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-And Lady Macbeth.

-And Lady Macbeth. Boris Johnson.

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The look on Boris Johnson and Michael Gove's face.

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The didn't look like two men who'd won a referendum.

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They looked like two men who'd lost a side bet and one of them

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was going to have to fuck a cheese grater.

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So you changed your show entirely.

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-Yeah.

-That must have been a mountain of work.

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It was, I mean, initially,

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heartbreaking and very scary because, as a comedian

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working towards Edinburgh,

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most of the year you start working up material

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and because I do political stuff, really,

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it's post-January, so I only really have about five or six months

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before June and July when I have to preview the show and get it ready.

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This time, I had five weeks to start from scratch.

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We are living through something of a spicy period.

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It's a spicy period, guys.

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You want to know how I know it's a spicy period?

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There's a lot of people living in this country who would object to it

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being described as spicy. That's how you know.

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So how did the vote affect you personally?

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On 24 June, I was doing a gig at the Comedy Store and that night

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a man told me to go home, from the audience,

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and I just briefly brought up the idea of it being a historic day,

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cos I talk about studying history when I was at school, and I said,

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"I don't know what's going to happen,"

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and he shouted, "You can go home."

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I saw politicians and the major figures in the Leave camp

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dismiss outright any connection between the Leave vote

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and a spike in hate crime and I just thought,

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"I'm sick of being told that this didn't happen to me."

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So that was when the decision was made to start talking about it.

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Aaron Banks is a major figure in the Leave campaign and he said

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the biggest problem with the Remain campaign was

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that it was too reliant on fact.

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-Where this show would be interesting would be Sunderland.

-Yeah.

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I mean, in many ways, Kirsty,

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that is the most devastating heckle I could have with my show.

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It would have been amazing if you'd shouted that at the gig.

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"Go say this in Sunderland!"

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There's no shortage of material mocking the Leave campaign,

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but there is one comic bucking the trend.

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We're so delighted to find you because actually finding

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a comedian who is Brexit is like finding a needle in a haystack.

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Yeah, there's not many of us up here and when I say many I mean any.

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I mean it's literally... I believe it's me.

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I'm the only one dumb enough to come up here with

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a show called Conswervative and then at the end also reveal that

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I voted Leave, and it's been an interesting run, to be honest.

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Voting Conservative is a bit like

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buying a James Blunt album. Know what I mean?

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You know millions of other people must have done it

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but weirdly, you never seem to meet one.

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So when the vote happened, did you go,

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"Well, that's fantastic cos it means I can change my show,"

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or did you go, "Oh, God, I've got to change my show"?

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I think firstly I felt a bit like everybody, like...

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-I had a bit of buyer's remorse.

-Buyer's remorse! Seriously?

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Yeah, no, I did. The reality of what happened,

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certainly when Cameron quit and the markets slumped

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and everything seemed to briefly go into freefall,

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it was natural to sort of question, is this the right thing?

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-But did that give you great material?

-I drew back for a while.

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I thought, "Let people be angry, let people be disappointed."

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There was quite a lot of comics saying,

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"Well, the world's laughing,"

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and I was thinking, "Well, I'm a comic so...job done."

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My mum would've been great at negotiating Brexit.

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She would have said to Theresa May, "Theresa, babe,

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"I've got you a good deal, yeah?

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"I got you access to the single market, concessions on freedom

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"of movement and Jean-Claude Juncker is now called John, all right? OK?

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"Yeah. Pain au chocolat, my arse."

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So what's the response from the audience been like?

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There was one woman who waited for me in this courtyard

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and waited till everybody had gone

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and said, "Are you a character actor?

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"You can tell me." I was like, "No."

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I don't know if at that point she thought I was going to go,

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"Yes, actually, my name's Tristram.

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"Let's go and do some Bikram yoga and let's talk it through."

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She just couldn't believe, maybe with some justification,

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that anybody would come up

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and kind of share these views at a liberal arts festival.

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The first day afterwards, first day, I was a racist.

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That was the dialogue. Racist.

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Second day, xenophobic. Third day, I was thick.

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I was thinking, "Thick?

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"I'm not the one who organised a march after the vote, OK?"

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When I saw on BBC News that we had left the EU,

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I immediately had violent diarrhoea.

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Just horrible.

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Like, "We've left the EU... Oh, God!"

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Straight in the... I had a bad case of the Brex-shits, guys.

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It really... Seriously.

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The Nando's I'd had the previous evening

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voted to leave with an overwhelming majority

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and article 50 was triggered immediately.

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The festival's into its third week but thousands of performers

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are still going strong, so here's our final selection of

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highlights for this year.

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Grandson of comic genius Charlie Chaplin,

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the acrobatic, poet, clown and magician James Thierree

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leads his audience into a magical world of dance,

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circus and physical theatre in The Toad Knew.

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Us/Them by Brussels-based company Bronks explores the harrowing

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events of the 2004 Beslan school siege with sensitivity and humour,

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cleverly contrasting the views of adults and children.

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The terrorists have got the school!

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But maybe not every terrorist wants money.

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Maybe some of them only want peace.

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# Cider man, cider man... #

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While the Fringe is always awash with keen, new upstarts,

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one comic stalwart is celebrating

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his 30th year of Edinburgh silliness -

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the ever entertaining Simon Munnery.

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Joke there. Joke there. Do another one at the end.

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What would Edinburgh be without some impromptu performance?

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Pop-up Duets is a collaboration between award-winning choreographer

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Janis Claxton and composer Pippa Murphy, and brings beautiful

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dance to unsuspecting visitors at the National Museum of Scotland.

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Senegalese superstar Youssou N'Dour

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raised the roof at the Usher Hall with his joyful fusion

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of traditional and world music.

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As ever, there is a profusion of puppets at the festival.

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The ventriloquist and comedian Nina Conti pulled a few strings

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and got us into some of the hottest shows in town.

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Teatro Delusio employees breathtaking movement techniques

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to explore life behind the scenes in the theatre.

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Ada/Ava mixes animation, live action and shadow puppetry

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to create an eerie American Gothic tale.

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Randy Writes A Novel is a foul-mouthed, philosophical rant

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from purple puppet Randy Felt Face.

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And in Nina's own show,

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audience members are brought on stage and turned into human puppets.

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# And my lovely wife tended them with care

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# In the garden!

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Tonight on stage, you had five people in masks and yourself.

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Does your head always stay straight?

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No, my head is a rambling chunk of nonsense

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and I just get through it moment to moment.

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-How you doing, Martin?

-I'm ready!

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-You're ready? How you doing?

-I want to be in the garden.

-You do?

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How are you?

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I... want... to... do... a... painting...

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You want to do a painting?

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She's always fucking painting!

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Always at your side is Monkey,

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but Monkey seems very traditional but also incredibly modern.

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-So, what's that on your face?

-That's my microphone.

-Where's mine?

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You shouldn't get yours. You don't need one.

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Well, that fucks up the illusion.

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It's a great, liberating mouthpiece for me.

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It is like your foul-mouthed alter-ego?

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Yeah, it's the unspoken thoughts,

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but they're not the thoughts I would stand by.

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They're not really like my secret thoughts of what I really think.

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It's just all the thoughts that could occur.

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Teatro Delusio - three guys, 30 characters,

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cartoonish heads and total physicality,

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which I thought was so completely different from your show.

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A completely different form of action?

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I love the beginning when the puppet comes on stage

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right at the start and the puppeteer puts a hand through the sleeve

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and she looks at it.

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That was a very exciting moment, I thought.

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These guys have amazing bodies.

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They change their bodies so much to match their faces.

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Well, the ballet dancers.

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One ballet dancer looked like a proper ballet dancer.

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Those faces are really enchanting and mixed with that music,

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it's just got a great atmosphere, hasn't it?

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It's really otherworldly.

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I always thought masked acting was a bit of a drag

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and kind of Greek and worthy but it's funny, that one, isn't it?

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-Really playful.

-It's fantastic.

-Yeah, I really enjoyed it.

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It's powerful what you can say without words

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and it all happens in the audience's head.

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It just gives you that liberty to imagine your own story.

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Ada/Ava is a shadow puppet show,

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but so much more because you see all the workings.

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There is a live band and there's singing.

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I've never seen it done like that before. That was amazing.

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They chose spooky and tender. Very spooky when the hand...

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I know, I know.

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It was fascinating to watch the workings of that.

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Like the Wizard of Oz or something.

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You could see behind the curtain the whole time.

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Do you think actually that because you could see the workings,

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-it was actually more powerful?

-I thought so.

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You can see her face with the profile stuck to it below

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and you can see the face she is making.

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It doesn't take away from it at all, it doesn't diminish it.

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-I think it enhances it.

-You respect it so much more.

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Now we're all used to soundtracks and dialogue

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and everything fast-cut,

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and to just slow it right down and simplify it like that...

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It's such a craft. They clearly care enormously about it.

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I actually found it profoundly moving.

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You have the distress of death, loss, guilt, imagining.

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It's extraordinary.

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It's so much easier to love a shadow puppet than a bad actor!

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Isn't it?

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I don't know why that is but it seems so easy to be genuine

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when it's just a silhouette.

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Randy Writes A Novel is simply a one-man puppet show.

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Edinburgh Fringe is one of the few times I really notice

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the difference between being a drinker and a non-drinker

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because every night after my show I'm like,

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I'm just going to go home and have a cup of chamomile tea and read

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some Haruki Murakami.

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Everybody else in the entire city is like, "Aaagh!"

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He's really enchanting, really powerful.

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He really kicks ass as a puppet, as a host to an audience.

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He's really unafraid.

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-He holds the stage.

-He holds the stage.

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I recognise that struggle

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of the puppet not being able to actually see

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but you feel people ducking out of his eyeline,

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but there's no eyes there, and that is the power of the thing.

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I love that.

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I wrote a book!

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Wooo!

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Yeah, don't get too excited, I think it might be shit!

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I can't tell any more. I'm too close to it.

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I'm concerned that it might be like an ugly baby,

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that I'm looking at through the eyes of a loving mother.

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What I was experiencing was thinking, you're just

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a mouthpiece for the guy under the table, which is fascinating.

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It's just stand-up.

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At what point do you think you are looking at the stand-up

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and you just forget he's a puppet?

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I never forget he is a puppet.

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I love thinking of that sweaty guy underneath,

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hunched with his hand held high with the blood draining out of it.

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I actually, yes, that's quite sadist of me,

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but I enjoy the struggle that must have gone into this illusion

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and I don't really forget it.

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I'm going to read bits of the book out.

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You are going to react, and then at the end,

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we'll all collectively decide whether or not I should kill myself.

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You at least, we see you, the hand is in Monkey but we see you,

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but what must it feel like in Randy Writes A Novel?

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You never see him.

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-He is just that puppet.

-I know.

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I think in some respects, it must be hugely facilitating

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to just be completely free, but it must be pretty sore on the back.

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I mean, I couldn't do it for an hour.

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I can't imagine how he does it. But Randy is so alive, isn't he?

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The power that comes through him. That's fantastic puppetry.

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You know my favourite bit of that whole story? I just made it up!

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Nina Conti is at the Pleasance until Monday

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and dates in London next month.

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Stories of migration are never far from the headlines these days

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but at this year's festival,

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refugees are bringing their own stories to the stage.

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The writer and broadcaster Bidisha

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has been hearing tales of struggle and survival.

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I've been working with asylum seekers and refugees in the UK

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for several years now and I'm always struck by the difference

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between the way politicians and the media speak about them

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and the daily reality of refugees' lives.

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To me, they are the victims of the world's biggest humanitarian crisis

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and I've come to Edinburgh

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to curate some events at the Book Festival here,

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which will hopefully enable audiences to

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see the world through refugees' eyes.

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In 2006, Gulwali Passarlay fled the Taliban regime in Afghanistan.

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He spent 12 months crossing eight countries to reach the UK.

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Six years later, he was selected to carry the Olympic torch

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in the run-up to the 2012 games.

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"If I have made it this far, I could make it now.

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"A survival instinct deep within me spurred me on.

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"I didn't want to die. Not here, not like this.

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"Not gasping and choking for breath in the cold depths of the sea.

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"How would anyone find my body?

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"My mother's face flashed before me again.

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" 'It is not safe for you here, Gulwali.

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" 'I am sending you away for your own safety.' "

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Gulwali, I've read your book,

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which tells the story of an incredible journey,

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but it begins when you are just 12 years old,

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when your life changes completely.

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I was forced to flee and leave my family, leave my home,

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everything that I loved, everything that I knew.

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I now was heading to the world of unknown.

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What kind of risks were you in danger of?

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I saw death on many occasions.

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But at one stage where I was very certain that death was happening,

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it was imminent, was when I was crossing from Turkey to Greece.

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The boat was designed for 20 people.

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There was 120 of us in it

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and for about 49, 50 hours, we were in the sea.

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So when I saw that death was happening,

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the boat was sinking, I was having this conversation with God

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because faith and hope was things that was keeping me going.

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What was your expectation of Britain?

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When I first arrived,

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I felt relieved I was finally here, but that I would be treated better

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than how I was treated in the rest of half of the world.

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But ultimately, it was another battle,

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another journey, another beginning.

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This is not where my journey ended, it's where it actually restarted.

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The authorities and social services, the immigration services,

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although they were trying to help me,

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they did not believe my age, they did not believe my nationality.

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It was actually more harder than the journey itself,

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being in the UK for the first year or two.

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What would you change about the current system?

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It took me five years to get refugee status

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and that's not acceptable.

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We blame the refugees or the asylum-seekers,

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when they have risked everything to come here.

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We don't give them the second chance in life,

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we treat them as unworthy human beings

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or basically that doesn't deserve to be here,

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that doesn't deserve the peace and security

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and opportunities we enjoy.

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"On so many times on my journey to freedom, I had felt hopeless,

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"despondent and afraid.

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"But at those moments of weakness, one thought had kept going.

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"My mother sent me away to save my life.

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"As I run through the street of my adopted second home,

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"the torch burning brightly, with people cheering and taking photos,

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"I thought of only of one thing - her."

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"At that moment, I knew beyond all doubt that I hadn't failed her.

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"I had made it."

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Gulwali is just one of countless individuals who risked their lives

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crossing the Mediterranean to seek safety in Europe.

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In Cast Away,

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Charlotte McDonald-Gibson explores what's driven them to make

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this perilous journey through the stories of five refugees

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who've arrived in Europe since 2011.

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Charlotte, why did you want to tell these five individual stories?

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Well, I've been reporting on the refugee crisis for a long time,

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since the Arab Spring, really, in 2011, when we really first started

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to see this movement of people coming across the Mediterranean,

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making these incredibly difficult journeys and coming to Europe.

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I wanted to find a way to tell these stories, to expose what was going on

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in this place, in the European Union, which is held up as a beacon

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for human rights for other countries to follow.

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"David was beside Sina on the deck.

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" 'Don't worry, we'll be safe,' he said.

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" 'We're very close to the beach, you don't have to worry.

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" 'We will not die, I promise you.'

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"At that moment, Sina felt the wood beneath her feet give way

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"and slide into the water, taking her with it.

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"First she went down, then up again,

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"desperately trying to keep hold of a slippery rope.

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"Then there was nothing to hold on to any more. She was in the water.

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"Sina heard a voice.

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" 'Please help us, we have a nine-month pregnant woman,

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" 'help us, she's here.'

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"Then everything went black."

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Sina's an extraordinary young woman, so she's from Eritrea.

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It's got one of the most oppressive regimes in the world,

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it's a dictatorship.

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I find her story extraordinary cos it's a story of survival,

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of a mother and child, set against the backdrop of all these

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news events we're familiar with - the closures of the borders,

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the shipwrecks, the massive arrivals on the Greek islands.

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How important is it,

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given that these are huge global trends and we're so used to seeing

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these pictures of refugees crammed into boats

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or detainees in detention centres,

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to humanize this crisis?

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It's absolutely crucial, because when they're viewed as "others",

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it's the otherization of other peoples.

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There's no empathy, you have no empathy.

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Everybody, they're just like us,

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they have the same basic motivations,

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which is to find the best life possible for your family,

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to find somewhere safe where you can build a life.

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It's not just the Book Festival

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that's focusing on forced migration this year.

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At the Fringe, Dear Home Office gives a voice to

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eight young refugees as their right to remain in the UK is tested.

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Tell me how this project came about.

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I manage the housing project that most of these guys live in,

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so in the day, I'm kind of sorting out their day-to-day business,

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and in the summer, Awet said to me that he thought that he had

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a story to tell and that he thought it was quite funny

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and could kind of interest an audience.

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Actually, when I was young, I was, like, acting in school

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and I love writing kind of stories, so I thought, like,

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this is going to be helpful if we make drama or stuff.

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And what story did you want to tell with this?

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You know, our story, like, our journey.

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So I find a man who would take me out of there.

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It was a little car with about 15 other people.

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They made us throw out our water

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so we could hold big cans of petrol.

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I was crushed and hot.

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The petrol made me sick. THEY RETCH

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There are some really dramatic moments that I think lots of people

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don't understand about being an asylum seeker.

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Like, one question they ask you, like, more than 30 times,

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they repeat again, again, again...

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So they make me, like, the other people or me or my friends,

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they make feel sad, really.

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How old was your mum when she had you?

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Did you go to school?

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Did you work?

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Did you help in the house?

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Did you have a girlfriend?

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How long did you go to school?

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What year were you in when you left to come here?

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-Do you have any qualification or degrees?

-How long ago?

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Can you be more specific?

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What do you want audiences to take away from Dear Home Office?

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I want...

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if I'm capable of changing their opinion, if some people,

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like, they have different kind of opinion about refugees,

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I want to show them, like, you know, we are good people,

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we are the same like them, we can do, like,

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good things for the people, for the society, for the world.

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I just want to work hard and have a peaceful life,

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is that too much to ask?

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I'm studying GCSE, I want to be a psychologist to help kids like me.

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Our story has only just begun.

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That's about all from us, but there's plenty more at...

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We leave you tonight with a stunning performance

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from the Lemon Bucket Orchestra, who have been picking up praise

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and prizes for Counting Sheep, a powerful and immersive piece

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at Summerhall, which recreates Ukraine's Maidan revolution.

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Goodnight.

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