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With a few moments to go before the start of the next programme, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
I'll just fill you in on what's happening over the next few weeks. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
I'm having a small sherry party on Wednesday - just a few friends. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
That should be nice. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:12 | |
I've a pair of curtains arriving from Laura Ashley on the 15th. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
Sky blue, with a regency stripe. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
And at the end of the month, I'm being fired. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
Attractive, funny, successful. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
Woman of the people. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:30 | |
Welcome to the world of Sacherelle. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:35 | |
She's the best, you know? | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
You want to work with the best, and she was. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
There was nobody to touch her. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:40 | |
Twink, what's the soup? | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
-Minestrone. -Why didn't you put it on the menu? | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
Can't spell it. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
The quality of what she did just stands up. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
We'll be talking about fatal plane crashes | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
and whether it's worth taking sandwiches next week. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
I know everyone is unique, but not as unique as her. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
I've caught this cold off Susan on smoked meats. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
Well, they're not smoked when they come, | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
but she's on 60 a day. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
My God, she was clever. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:07 | |
We want a test-tube baby. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
Why? Are there problems? | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
We've only got a maisonette, so a little tiny test-tube one... | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
I'm terribly proud to say that she's my friend, | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
you know, special friend. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:18 | |
I first met Victoria Wood when I got a part in her film Eric & Ernie. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
I played a young Eric Morecambe, she played my mum. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
It came up in conversation | 0:01:35 | 0:01:36 | |
that I didn't have anywhere to live at the end of the job. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
Without hesitating, Vic said, | 0:01:39 | 0:01:40 | |
"Why don't you come and stay with me?" | 0:01:40 | 0:01:41 | |
Then, when I'd been there a couple of weeks, | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
"Why don't you stay until Christmas?" | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
Then, in August the following year, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
"Why don't you find somewhere to live?" | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
Spending time with Victoria was inspirational, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
and I'll forever count myself lucky to have known our friend Victoria. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
So, this episode is all about fame - | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
how Victoria rose to fame, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
and how she embraced it in her comedy. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
Proper celebrities, they always give their children | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
really bizarre names, don't they? | 0:02:21 | 0:02:22 | |
If you're a proper celebrity, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:23 | |
you can't just call your babies Chris and Bob, | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
you have to call them things like Mercedes and Rainforest. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:30 | |
You see, if I was a proper celebrity. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
I'd have to have at least four children - | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
one naturally, two adopted, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:35 | |
one from sperm sent in by a well-wisher... | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
..and I'd call them Pinky, Perky, | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
Monosodium Glutamate and Satsuma, I think. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
I do have fans, you know, but I don't have, sort of, mad fans. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
I don't have people hanging around the house | 0:02:48 | 0:02:49 | |
trying to drink my bathwater, or anything like that. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
And I've only once had one of those letters | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
from somebody asking for some of my used underwear. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
Well, I sent some, you know. | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
I sent all of it, actually. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:03:01 | 0:03:02 | |
I said to them, "There's no need to iron it, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
"just fold it flat as it comes out of the tumble dryer." | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
And I don't have a stalker, as far as I know, | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
though the police have warned me it's a possibility. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
They said to me, "Do you carry any sort of anti-mugging device?" | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
I said, "Well, I don't really, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:17 | |
"but in the very inside pocket of my handbag | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
"is my emergency Lil-let... | 0:03:20 | 0:03:21 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
"..which is about 17 years old. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
"And if anybody comes near me, I shall jam it up their nose | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
"and they'll die of toxic shock syndrome." | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
The first time we saw Vic regularly on TV, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
she was singing her own songs on a hugely popular programme | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
called That's Life. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:52 | |
A lady who always gets the right number is Victoria Wood, | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
and she's with us again this week | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
with a song she's written specially for us. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
A soft, gentle ballad for May Day. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
One, two, three, four! | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
# According to my horoscope | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
# This month's gonna be ace | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
# And the trials of the past eleven | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
# Will vanish without trace | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
# I've got to take advantage | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
# And move without delay | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
# My stars are gonna twinkle all through May | 0:04:20 | 0:04:26 | |
# My horoscope says go abroad | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
# If you want to make your mark | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
# I think I'll make a smudgy one | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
# And head for the nearest park | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
# Wander round the soggy pathways | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
# In my month of wet good luck | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
# With a bag of rock-hard Wonderloaf | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
# To see if ducks duck... # | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
From what I can remember, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
she always wanted to stand up, tell jokes, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
and sing at the piano. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:50 | |
Do both. And, of course, she did, to great acclaim, quite rightly. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:55 | |
# There's not too many jobs available | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
# Unqualified as I am | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
# I've got a Brownies' badge for skipping | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
# And a Guides' for making jam | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
# CSE heavy petting | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
# O-level hanging around | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
# And I would have got a bronze life-saving medal | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
# If the person I was saving hadn't drowned | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
# I've been working in an office | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
# And I can't face that again | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
# And I've always fancied being a comedienne... # | 0:05:25 | 0:05:30 | |
She could go so much. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:31 | |
She could write, she could do stand-up comedy. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
And all these things, when you're starting out, | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
you think, "What am I? Am I an actress, am I this?" | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
And in the end, that galvanises itself into becoming Victoria Wood. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
And there's only one. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:43 | |
Fame was just around the corner | 0:05:51 | 0:05:52 | |
when Victoria teamed up with Julie Walters. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
The planets aligned. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
They made a fantastic double act, complementing each other perfectly. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
Like cod and chips. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
-What do you want doing? -It's all right, thank you. My appointment's with Michael. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
He's not here. He's gone home sick. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
Nearly wore a hole in that bloody toilet. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
Wouldn't bother me. I've had septic fingers and all sorts, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
carried right on shampooing. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
Well, perhaps Brian could cut my hair. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:21 | |
He's off sick and all. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
They live together, you know. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
Gay. Don't bother me. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
I couldn't get steamed up about intercourse one way or the other. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
Oh, I do it, you know. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
I mean, don't get me wrong, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:34 | |
but I don't smile or nothing. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
-You know. -Is Maggie here, or...? | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
They're all off sick. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:40 | |
Why, what's happened? | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
Faulty hamburgers. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
They sent out for them quarter-pounders. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
Now, I don't touch them, because I know the bloke that makes them. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
And not only has he got boils and a finger stall, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
but he told me what they were made of. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
Gerbils. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
LAUGHTER DROWNS OUT SPEECH | 0:06:57 | 0:06:58 | |
I mean, it's all right | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
posting one through your mam's letterbox for a laugh, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
but you eat one crushed in a bun with a gherkin and a bag of chips | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
and it's trouble downstairs, know what I mean? | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
I used to do bits of improvisation, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
used to do bits of writing. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
And this drama teacher | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
I had at my college in Leyland, in Lancashire, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
said, "You should have a look at Wood And Walters." | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
Have a lie-down. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:19 | |
Oh, sorry! | 0:07:25 | 0:07:26 | |
I bet he don't know what half these buttons are for, you know. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
He's not a bit mechanically minded. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
Called the RAC out to adjust his braces. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
Good, though, innit? Eh? | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
-Good, innit? -Yeah... -Yeah. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
They worked as if they were one person, really. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
And it was somebody writing the lines as clever as that, | 0:07:47 | 0:07:52 | |
and someone saying those lines in such a clever way, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:57 | |
is a combination that is very rare. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
SHE PLAYS SOME WRONG NOTES | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
Having trouble, are you? | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
-Yes. -Just a little? Yeah. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
Music like that's all the same | 0:08:18 | 0:08:19 | |
whether you play it wrong or not, isn't it? | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
-Sorry? -Do you not know any proper tunes? | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
Do you know Dream Of Olwen? It's lovely, that. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
That were on in women's surgical, night I had my cervix cauterised. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
You saw the respect that Julie gave to Victoria | 0:08:31 | 0:08:36 | |
as the writer and creator, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
and then you saw the respect that Vic gave Julie | 0:08:39 | 0:08:44 | |
when Julie was performing. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
It was completely equal. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
It was Victoria's own series As Seen On TV that made her famous, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
a household name, and deservedly so. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
She cooked up everything - the theme tune, the stand-up, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
the monologues and the sketches. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
This woman said to me, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:07 | |
"Am I speaking to Victoria Wood's secretary?" | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
And I said, "Oh, yes", trying to sound as if I had nail varnish on. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:14 | |
And she said, "We'd like her to do a fashion feature." | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
I said, "What? There must be some mistake. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
"You must be mixing me up with Benny Hill." | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
I'm not very fashion-conscious, you know. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
As long as it's this year's gravy spilled down the front, I'm happy. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
Across the board, I think the format | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
of the, sort of, stand-up | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
and the Kitty monologues | 0:09:32 | 0:09:33 | |
and the insert of the mock documentary | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
and then Acorn Antiques, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:38 | |
it's such an unlikely sort of format for a show | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
but I remember feeling, within a couple of weeks, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
it was like, "This is what the show is", | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
and it just works so brilliantly on so many levels. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
We'd like to apologise to viewers in the north. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
It must be awful for them. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:55 | |
The secret of my youthful appearance is simply... | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
..mashed swede. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
As a face mask, as a nightcap, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
and, in an emergency, as a draught excluder. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
-What about those Dublin prawns? -Never touch prawns. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
Do you know they hang around sewage outlet pipes, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
treading water with their mouths open? | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
They love it! | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
So, anyway, I'm at Maison Reenie's... | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
Aren't prawns an aphrodisiac? | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
I wouldn't put it past them. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
Everyone used to talk about it at school. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:30 | |
We used to do this sketch, you know what I mean? | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
You'd come in and all the little catchphrases. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
And...yeah, it really got under the psyche of the country, didn't it? | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
-Carl? -What? | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
Would you rather have a brown washing-up bowl | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
and a brown washing-up bowl... brush, I mean, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
or a red washing-up brush - I mean, bowl - | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
and a red washing-up brush, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
or a yellow washing-up bowl and a brown washing-up brush? | 0:10:56 | 0:11:02 | |
Why? | 0:11:02 | 0:11:03 | |
Just wondered. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:04 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
Her most famous creation back then was, of course, Acorn Antiques. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
But Vic shone a light on the backstage life of the cast | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
in a spoof documentary called The Making of Acorn Antiques. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
How many people tune in every evening | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
to hear that oh-so-familiar music? | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
About 54. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
But what goes on behind the scenes? What don't the public see? | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
Let's find out exactly what does or doesn't go into the making | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
of Acorn Antiques. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
-KNOCKING -Get out! | 0:11:47 | 0:11:48 | |
The Making of Acorn Antiques | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
is quite rightly an absolute, | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
not only a classic, but a legend. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
I mean, I don't think I've ever since | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
been in any kind of rehearsal room where somebody, usually me, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
will go, Simon, "Lunch, Simon, yes?" | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
You're being repatriated. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:06 | |
You're to catch the first train to Kirk-cud-bright tomorrow morning. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
-It's Kirkcudbright. -I know that. Babs wouldn't. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
Simon, agree? | 0:12:11 | 0:12:12 | |
Now, look. Because he's sort of stunned by this news, isn't he? | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
-No idea. -And I'll turn and go... | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
The camera's on me there, anyway, isn't it? | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
Simon, yes? Teabreak, Simon? Yes? | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:12:24 | 0:12:25 | |
Victoria had been around long enough to know all the ins and outs of fame | 0:12:27 | 0:12:32 | |
and the enormous egos that many famous people have. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
None more so than Boadicea, or Bo, as she calls herself, Mrs Overall, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:42 | |
where she puts all of that into one character, who is... | 0:12:42 | 0:12:48 | |
her public persona is of, you know, bumbly old Mrs Overall, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
and on the other hand, she's an absolutely ruthless diva | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
who believes she is the greatest star on the planet. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
Bo, how are they? | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
Has this terrible rain brought them on again? | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
They're fine. I'm fine. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
Kenny, if you could hover with my Veganin. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
-I'll be here. -Is there some kind of problem? | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
Small change, Bo. The pillar box has been stolen. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
-So, I come out. -Come out. -Walk, walk, walk to the pillar box. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
"Blimey, oh, fiddlybob. No pillar box." | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
-React, react, react. -That's it. -Fantastic, it's here. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
Ah, back to plan A. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
There is now a pillar box. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:22 | |
Oh, there is a pillar box. First, there is no pillar box. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
Then one appears. What next? No pavement? No shop? | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
-So... -I'm sorry, do you mind? This is rather a tricky manoeuvre. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
-Rather fussing to be filming as one's working. -OK, cut it. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
We loved the thought of Bo, | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
that she's this very, very grand actress, doing a... | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
"Not stuck on the peripheries of the business, really". | 0:13:40 | 0:13:46 | |
There's been a rather a lot made in the press lately of a feud | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
between you and certain younger members of the cast. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
Is there any truth in that? | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
Dear Paul, I'm a huge, huge star. | 0:13:55 | 0:14:00 | |
This is the price I pay. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
Look how the press treated poor Yorkie. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
-Fergie. -Fergie. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:05 | |
What is that? | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
It's a haemorrhoid preparation, to be brutally frank. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
Cut. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
'The pomposity of the woman,' | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
then having to play somebody very unattractive, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
she'd probably rather have played a Joan Collins part. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
-How do you feel? -I won't talk, Paul, my darling. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
I just have to gather myself in. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
Focus. Be. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
Header from Michaela. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:32 | |
Coming to two. No, three. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
No, it WAS two. Now coming to three. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
Oh! | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
And in on Babs? | 0:14:39 | 0:14:40 | |
'Pull in close, camera two. Love those nostrils!' | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
And Princess Margaret is so like me. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
Give, give, give. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
Do you mind? I did promise the specialist. Well... | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
Stand by, Mrs Overall. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
Steady on the doorway. Three. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:54 | |
I said, "For you, Lord Delfont..." | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
I'm talking, Colin. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
"For you, Lord Delfont, it would be a pleasure and an honour." | 0:14:59 | 0:15:06 | |
She completely dismantled the facade of fame | 0:15:06 | 0:15:11 | |
to the real person behind it | 0:15:11 | 0:15:12 | |
who was a narcissist, ego-driven, personality-disordered nutter, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:17 | |
and that, as an audience member, was such joy. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
Be calm, be calm. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
Come on! | 0:15:24 | 0:15:25 | |
-You're on! -I'm aware of that, Colin, after 30 years in the business. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
No tray. Where's the bloody tray?! | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
-We'll cope. -It's mentioned! -Mentioned? | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
She'll get us out of it! | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
Come on, Bo. Improvise! | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
Yes, I just had to bring it in to show you. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:51 | |
Take it. Isn't it light? | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
Mm - and such a lovely shade of mauve. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
-Look, Clifford. -It's magnificent. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
Shall we cut? Go back? | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
No. We professionals notice. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
Joe Public never clocks a damn thing. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
Bo's fame wasn't confined to Acorn Antiques. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
Vic released her into the world of celebrity | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
when she penned Beyond The Marigolds. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
I got Mrs Overall | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
and poor old Diana Rigg was stuck with The Avengers. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:27 | |
Which ran what? Two series? | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
Oh, it was a nice little show. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
Oh, it was a nice enough show and Diana... | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
-Dame Diana. -Yes, for charity work... | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
She's had a decent enough career. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
She's respected. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
But she's not loved. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:41 | |
-No. -Bo is loved. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
'The producer of I'm A Celebrity | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
'has explained that it is a Japanese-style endurance game.' | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
You get all the jungle gear, the boots and the shorts and so on. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
Sometimes, we fly people in as a surprise. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
I think we did that with Cannon and Ball. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
'But Bo seems still to be interested.' | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
We have these things called bushtucker trials, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
where the celebrities have to eat rather disgusting things | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
like edible grubs and locusts and kangaroo anus. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:17 | |
I think Jan Leeming ate wombat penis. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
Well...that's about it. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
How dare you. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
-What? -Do you seriously think I would give an instant's consideration | 0:17:29 | 0:17:34 | |
to your fetid little programme? | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
Why...? | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
I am an actress. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
A loved and respected actress. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
I was voted Best-Loved Character In A Soap 1987, 1989 and 1990 | 0:17:43 | 0:17:50 | |
and there are three things on television I will never do. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
I will not wear shorts. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
I will not take part in any repellent eating trial | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
and I will not appear | 0:18:00 | 0:18:01 | |
on any programme that considers Jan Leeming | 0:18:01 | 0:18:06 | |
to be a celebrity. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:07 | |
Come on. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:08 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
It's about delusion, isn't it? | 0:18:10 | 0:18:11 | |
It's about being deluded, basically. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
Deluded. What's the business can do to you. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
Delude you into thinking | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
you're massively, massively important. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
And, you know, when in fact you're this poor little person, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
who is just like everybody else, really. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
Vic used to talk about chewing her pencil, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
staring at the bins, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:34 | |
trying to think of the right word. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
I think that bin-staring is evident throughout her work, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
right from very early on. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
You get the sense that every sentence has been loved. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
And there's a great example of that in her northern reality star, | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
Stacey Leanne. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
What a year I have had. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
I mean, a year ago, I was nobody. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
Yes, I was gifted, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:55 | |
yes, I was gorgeous. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
But basically, nobody knew | 0:18:58 | 0:18:59 | |
who the Kentucky Fried frickin' Chicken I was. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
PHONE CHIMES | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
Oh, text message. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
Anyway... | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
AUDIENCE LAUGHTER | 0:19:11 | 0:19:12 | |
Now I'm going to plunge into a little Lancashire idiom now, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
so bear with me, anyone who's south of the Watford Gap, | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
which I only mention cos we came through Watford Gap service station last night. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
Boy, have they got sophisticated. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
The mozzarella and tree-ripened tomato pork scratchings. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
Whoo! They're out of this world. They're bliss in a bucket. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:19:33 | 0:19:34 | |
She writes lots of very ego-driven characters, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
especially in the entertainment industry, and obviously, | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
Vic has come across a lot of these people, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
working in television for so long, and in the theatres. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
And, um...she nails it. She really nails it. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
Anyway, to plunge into a little Lancashire idiom, | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
last year I was nobody, I had nothing, and as we say, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
I didn't have a pot to piss in. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
No, I'm not trying to be offensive when I say that, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
we speak as we find in Radcliffe. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
I did not have a pot to piss in. Did I, Mum? | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
A pot to piss in, I did not have. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
If somebody had come to me for a pot, wanting a piss, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
-I couldn't help them. -LAUGHTER | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
Pot-wise, piss-wise, I was nowhere. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
No piss, no pot. That was me, big-time. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
Anyway, it's a nice little expression, isn't it? | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
We've got loads of sayings like that, haven't we, Mum? | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
What did you used to say to me dad? | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
"Don't leave your teeth in the bed. Me bum's bad enough as it is!" | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
And my own particular favourite, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
"If you think you'll have a shag, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
"pop a johnny in your bag." | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
It was Victoria's own success that allowed her to branch out | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
and work on projects dear to her heart. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
One such film was Eric & Ernie and I was lucky enough be in it. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:01 | |
-# By the light... # -Not the dark, but the light. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
# Of the silvery moon... # | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
Not the sun, but the moon. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
# I want to spoon... # | 0:21:07 | 0:21:08 | |
He's looking to spoon somebody. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
BOTH: # To my honey I'll croon love's tune... # | 0:21:10 | 0:21:15 | |
# Honeymoon... # | 0:21:15 | 0:21:16 | |
-What are you doing? -Having a little dance. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
This is my solo! | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
Victoria loved classical British variety and was a great fan | 0:21:21 | 0:21:26 | |
of Les Dawson, of Morecambe and Wise, of course, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
Tommy Cooper, people like this. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
So the chance to make a film | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
all about Eric and Ernie | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
was wonderful. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:39 | |
-AMERICAN VOICE: -Come on, get up. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
I said get up, you snake. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
Ma! | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
Ike, it's Ma. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:53 | |
And she's not laughing. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
Ham and eggs? What the heck's this in aid of? | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
I found Ernie's wallet and managed to open it with a crowbar. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
-We've landed a tour. -Number two circuit. £25 a week. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
£25 a week? | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
-When do we start? -He didn't mean you. We meant us. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
You've done your bit, Mrs B. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
Yes - we've got a proper manager now, Mum. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
You can go home, put your feet up. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
And here's your ticket. Ernie, give the lady her ticket. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
First class. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
First class. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:31 | |
'I think, as she became comfortable in her own skin, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
'she allowed herself to play wonderful parts. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
'I remember in Eric & Ernie, with the train ticket home, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
'the pathos of that was beautiful' | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
and in Housewife, 49, | 0:22:47 | 0:22:48 | |
she was almost a tragic figure, wasn't she? | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
She became a great actress, I think. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
# We've nothing to lose We're done with the blues | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
# We're spreading the news We know that it's true | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
# We're telling it to the people we meet... # | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
In 2014, Vic produced her most ambitious project yet, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
a musical called That Day We Sang. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
It was huge, because as well as the usual pressures | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
of writing both the script and the music, | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
she took on the role of director. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
I was doing Sweeney Todd with Imelda Staunton | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
and Imelda told me about this next project she was going to be doing, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:25 | |
That Day We Sang, with Victoria, and I was so jealous. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
I was bitter and twisted. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
And then I got a call saying | 0:23:32 | 0:23:33 | |
would I be interested in reading for it and meeting? | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
And I said, "Yes, I'll sell my soul. I'll do anything that is necessary." | 0:23:37 | 0:23:42 | |
What were you saying about yoghurt? | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
I didn't know which flavour, so... | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
I got them all. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:48 | |
You didn't get plain? | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
I didn't know there was plain. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:54 | |
-I can only have plain. -I never saw plain. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
If it's not plain, it's not slimming. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
Look, leave that aside for the moment. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
I shall deal with that first thing tomorrow. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
I'll strike out into the icy wastes of the chilled dairy section. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
I'll be like Captain Oates, only, hopefully, I shall come back. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
But what I wanted to say, Enid, is... | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
I know this wasn't a date, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
but could it be? | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
Not this yoghurt blunderer's debacle, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
but could we go on a proper date? | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
I'm going out with someone. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:30 | |
-Oh! -So... | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
Right. Sorry. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
Doing my two short planks act. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
I should have checked. Sorry. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
As you were. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
It did feel like That Day We Sang | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
was, sort of, like her firing on all cylinders, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
doing everything that she could do, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
and it felt joyous, in a way, | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
that, you know, you just thought she was just indulging in, | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
obviously, a world that she really liked exploring. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
# You hang on tight... # | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
CONDUCTOR: Hold very tight, please. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:06 | |
# You play it safe | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
BOTH: # You never rock the boat | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
# And then the stuff you flatten down | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
# The memories you batten down | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
BOTH: # Come floating up to grab you by the throat... # | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
This was a big responsibility for her, that she'd taken on, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
but that was typical of her, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:26 | |
that she wanted this huge challenge | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
and also didn't trust anyone else to do it. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
Anyway, look, from where I said. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
You could have organised this a little bit better, Victoria Wood. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
'Literally, from that moment,' | 0:25:38 | 0:25:39 | |
Vic and I became great, great mates. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
We talked all the time | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
and the whole process of making this extraordinary film | 0:25:44 | 0:25:50 | |
was a joy from beginning to end. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
So there you have it. That was our friend Victoria. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
But a show about Victoria Wood | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
wouldn't be a show about Victoria Wood | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
if we didn't end on a song. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
And out of the many hundreds that she wrote and performed, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
I've chosen my favourite - Pam. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
# Can I tell you who I am? | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
# I'm Pamela Patricia but they call me Pam | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
# I don't like shorts or sling-back shoes | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
# My only pair of trousers are my gardening trews | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
# I don't say "who", I do say "whom" | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
# I never use the toilet Just the smallest room | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
# I don't say "gay", I still say "queer" | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
# I think that Mussolini had the right idea ... # | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
# Da-da-da-da, da-da, da-da-da-da | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
# Got engaged in '62 | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
# Got married in the April in a nice pale blue | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
# It all turned sour to say the least | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
# I was stuck in Abergele with a sex-crazed beast | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
# Our wedding night I heard a cough | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
# There was Harold in the doorway with his 'jamas off | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
# I said, "Now look, I must be blunt | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
# "I couldn't give a beggar on the whole sex front | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
# "Not me, not my scene | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
# "I prefer a game of rummy and an Ovaltine | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
# "Harold, dear, now do get dressed | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
# "I've seen one in a book and I was not impressed..." # | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
SHE WHISTLES | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
# Once divorced I lived alone | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
# Then I chummed up with a woman by the name of Joan | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
# She moved in, she seemed quite nice | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
# Wore Army boots and braces but I didn't think twice | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
# Then one night she seemed upset | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
# I said, "Are you not happy in my maisonette?" | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
# She drained her rum and Babycham | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
# Ran her fingers through her crewcut | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
# Said, "I love you, Pam"... # | 0:27:55 | 0:27:56 | |
-Oh, and Andrew, one thing I forgot to show you. -Yes? | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
Did I explain what happens when you press this switch? | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
-Er, no. -This. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 |