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This series only came about because some craven idiot at the BBC

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was impressed by an award you won.

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It's pretty ridiculous what's happened.

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I mean, I've lost my way, and I think if you, if you give people BAFTAs

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and British Comedy Awards that's what's going to happen.

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I've got no... I don't know who I'm supposed to be any more.

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I'm a, who am I? A person who sits every night looking at a mantelpiece

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literally creaking with awards,

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and yet every single one of those awards is like a vampire bat sucking all the energy out of me.

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-It's kryptonite, isn't it? It's kryptonite to your...

-Yeah.

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And I suppose it looks now as if you're thrashing about

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desperately trying to prove that you have an identity.

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You have hoards of writers on the show.

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You don't appear to be able to summon a thought.

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My only, my only hope is that the final moments

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of this expiring talent have been captured and that that in itself will be entertaining in some way.

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The same way that it might be interesting to watch

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an animal expire after its throat's been slit.

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A sort of snuff...?

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A kind of snuff comedy, yeah. Yeah.

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Let's watch the, let's watch the talent and purpose ebb away from

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this character, and maybe there's something comical about that. I don't know.

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This programme contains very strong language.

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So, I don't want to waste any time faffing around or trying

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to create a good atmosphere in the room, so what I'm going to ask you to do in about 30 seconds

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is clap for about three seconds.

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Not as if it were the top of the show.

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I don't want any whooping or cheering,

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but just clap as if I'd already been on for about a quarter of an hour

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and it was going all right and everyone is in a good mood.

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I'd just done something that was OK, and I'll come off the back of that

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on the move, as if we're already in the show in full flight

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and you'll see that works just as well as if I'd done something good.

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So, if you can just do about three seconds, low level clapping,

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then I'll go into the first half hour.

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If you just do that now. About three seconds clapping.

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APPLAUSE

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I know. I mean, thing is, that's what I said to them but, um, I don't think people listen, you know?

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It's like, it's like, being in Spain.

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It was ridiculous, you know? Blokes going, "Oh, where's your, you know, sombrero?"

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Man. Now, so I was in a cab on a Sunday night

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going from Waterloo to Hackney, and suddenly the cab driver turned around and his opening conversation

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or gambit was to say this genuine sentence.

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He said, "These days you get arrested and thrown in jail if you say you're English, don't you?"

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LAUGHTER

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Look, we've all done it. You're probably like me.

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Sometimes a cab driver or someone might say something like that and you go, "Yeah."

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You know, just for a quiet life.

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Or if they go, "My face is made out of electricity and ham,"

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and you go, "Yes, it's awful when that happens.

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"My friend had that. An electric ham face."

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Or if they go, "All mice are gay and they're from space, aren't they?"

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You go, "Yeah, the bloody gay space mice. I can't stand them. They make me physically sick."

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You're just, you know, for a quiet life.

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But on this occasion I thought, "I wonder what he means?"

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I said to him, "What did you say?" And he said, "Oh, these days,

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"if you say you're English you get arrested and thrown in jail."

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I said, "When did this come in?"

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And he said, "No," he said, "if you say you're English these days, mate.

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"You get arrested and thrown in jail."

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I said, "Are you...?

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"What, if you say, just if you say you're English you get arrested and thrown in jail?"

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He goes, "Yeah. These days," he said,

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"if you say you're English you get arrested and you'll be, you'll be just thrown in jail."

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I said "In, in, jail." He goes, "Yeah, these days. These days, mate, if you say you're English, right,

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"these days, you'll get arrested and you'll be thrown in jail."

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"I said, "You'll be thrown...?

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"Actually thrown in jail, just if you, if you say you're English."

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He goes, "Yeah, these days.

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"Say you're English these days, you'll get, you'll be thrown in,

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"arrested, and then you'll be thrown in jail."

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I said, "You'd be actually be thrown in jail?" He goes, "Yeah."

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I said, "Just for saying you're English?"

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He goes, "Yeah," he said, "say you're English these days.

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"You get arrested and you'll be, you'd be thrown in jail."

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I said, "Thrown in, you'll be thrown in jail if you just say, just for saying you're Eng...?"

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He goes, Yes, you will."

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"These days," he said, "if you say you're English

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"you'll be arrested and you'll be thrown..."

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I said, "Absolutely, are you saying, what are you saying?

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"If you say you're English these days, you'll be arrested and thrown in jail?"

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He goes, "Yes, these days, if you say you're English, you just say that, and you'll be arrested

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"and you'll be thrown in jail."

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I said, "Thrown in, you'll be thrown in a jail?

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"Just if you, and arrested, just if you say..."

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He goes, "Yeah, you'll be arrested, then thrown in jail just for saying you're English."

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I said, "Just for saying you're English you'll be arrested?"

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He goes, "Yeah." I said, "Are you cer..." I said, "Are you sure?

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"Will you be arrested and thrown in jail these days if you say you're English?"

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And he said, "No."

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LAUGHTER

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Right. I'd worn him down, "But..." he said,

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"but.." he said, "if on an official form where it says

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" 'nationality' you cross out British and you write in 'White English'

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"they will send that form back." Now, that's not strict...

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It's not the same as being arrested, is it?

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But it is a very thin line, to be fair. It is.

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Earlier this year I was applying for a new passport

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and on my passport photo, before I sent it in, on my face, in pen,

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I wrote, "There ain't no black in the Union Jack."

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Stupid load of fuss. I was banged up.

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The next thing I knew Amnesty International had had to fly Micky Flanagan out to Carnegie Hall

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to tell New Yorkers about fingering a woman in a fish market

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in order to draw attention to my incarceration.

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But look, it worked. I stand before you. I'm free. Look, free man.

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So there's no truth at all in, what's more than a rumour, that you, you give a taxi driver something

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dreadful to read out, and then pay him to read it out

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so that you then have the supposed authenticity of having gathered a kind of, a folk bigotry into your...

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-Well...

-..cynical little sack.

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I didn't initially do that.

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Initially, the ideas that I got from cab drivers are from things they've

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said, but pretty soon on, in between the second and third series,

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I realised that what I really, I needed them to say particular things

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to make the routines work, and I wanted the routines to have the, the, the feeling of...

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This is, I mean, this is unbelievable.

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This is, this is, the Jeremy Kyle argument. It is.

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"I get them in the studio. They do it anyway, but I just put them in front of a camera and what's more,

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"they get paid at the end of the day,

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"and then they get some therapy afterwards to make absolute idiots of themselves at my behest."

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That's what he says. That's what you say.

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You're the same.

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I don't, I don't film them doing it. I just remember what they've said.

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-You film yourself remembering what they said.

-I film myself remembering what I told them to say.

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Which gives you the advantage because they're not there to answer for themselves.

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No, well, if they were I wouldn't do it, because I think they would...

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They'd have you.

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Well, what are you going to do? I mean, in fact I don't... I don't have time now to have adventures or

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experiences or ideas, so it's best if I can provoke the response

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I want from a person and then pass it off as something that actually happened.

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I mean, it didn't, it didn't not happen.

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It just didn't happen really.

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But a lot of people have anxieties about cultural identity, and that explains the rise of UKIP.

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The UKIPs, that and the fact that Nigel Farage of the UKIPs

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is what we in England call a character.

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He's a character, isn't he? Nigel Farage.

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The character. But remember, a character is defined in the Dictionary of Theatre

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as being "something that gives the illusion of being a person."

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LAUGHTER

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Now, a lot of people have been saying their voting UKIP was a protest vote.

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Which I sort of understand,

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but when we were young, a protest vote, you voted for someone nice

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who might not get in, like the Greens, didn't you,

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or some funny, silly, amusing party like the Raving Monster Loony Party or the Liberal Democrats.

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Something like that. But people have been voting for

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the UKIPs as a protest vote, and they're nasty,

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and they might get in, and then what kind of protest is that?

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That's like shitting your hotel bed as a protest against bad service,

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and then realising you've now got to sleep in a shitted bed.

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Paul Nuttalls is the Deputy Leader of the UKIPs

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and he's from Liverpool, and he's very worried about all these Bulgarians coming over, and in July,

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he said, "Bulgarians need to ensure that their brightest and best people stay in Bulgaria

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"and make it economically prosperous instead of coming to the UK to serve tea and coffee."

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Now, that's all very well for Paul Nuttalls of the UKIPs, because he lives in Liverpool.

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But I live in London, and what I want to know is how am I supposed to get cheap tea and coffee,

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unless there's a massively overqualified East European philosophy professor

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prepared to make it for me for significantly less than the living wage?

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Selfish, selfish Paul Nuttalls of the UKIPs.

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Paul Nuttalls of the UKIPs' clearly genuine concern for domestic economic prosperity in Bulgaria.

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I don't doubt that for a minute, but that is threatening my

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access to cheap hot beverages in the central London area,

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and what I say to Paul Nuttalls of the UKIPs from Liverpool is this.

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Paul Nuttall of the UKIPs, from Liverpool,

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abandon your parliamentary hopes and your dreams of London

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and stay in Liverpool where you belong.

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For you are clearly the brightest and best

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that Liverpool has to offer.

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So stay in Liverpool

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and concentrate instead on making Liverpool economically prosperous,

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and not just by climbing over the hotel toilet cubicle doors

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and stealing people's coats, either.

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But how to make Liverpool economically prosperous?

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If only there was some way for Liverpudlians

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to profit from going on and on about the past in a whiny voice.

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What you've done is evolve a system

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that knowingly operates the levers that make people laugh

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by using any means possible

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apart from actually saying anything funny.

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-Yeah, I know.

-You make them feel awkward.

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-Yep.

-You make them feel a bit afraid.

-Yep.

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-You make them feel nervous.

-Yep.

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And that is the only reason they laugh.

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But what's the last thing that they would expect?

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Something funny actually just being said,

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-and that's what I've tried to do in this series.

-Again and again.

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Again and again I've tried to just do a joke that will make people laugh

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and you can see the fear and confusion on their faces.

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They go, "Oh, what's this? What's happening now?"

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This is quite a complicated brew

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because I'm not sure whether that's smug or psychotic.

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Yeah.

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Now I am aware,

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right, it's now December 2013

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and I'm recording this

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but by the time this goes out, it will be 2014,

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by which time, if the UKIPs are right,

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we will have been swamped by Bulgarians,

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and I do appreciate

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that I will now look like the worst kind of BBC liberal apologist idiot

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if you're all sitting at home watching this dubbed into Bulgarian.

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LAUGHTER

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With Romanian subtitles.

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But the UKIPs seem to object to the Bulgarians

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on the grounds that they are skilled,

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which is a whole new angle in the anti-immigration debate.

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Here they are, coming over here, their skills.

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A lot of people say, um, that we need mass immigration

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if we're going to have economic growth.

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Other people say it will always cost the infrastructure

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more than it brings to the country.

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Whatever the truth of those two positions,

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the way people are talking about the Bulgarians,

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we've seen it all before, haven't we?

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We've seen, ten years ago, with the Poles.

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People going, oh, bloody Poles, coming over here.

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Bloody Poles, coming over here,

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being all Polish and mending everything.

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Coming over here, fixing all the stuff we've broken

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and are too illiterate to read the instructions for.

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Doing it better than us in a second language. Bloody Poles.

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Coming over here.

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When I was a kid. 40, 45 years ago, it was the Indians, weren't it?

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Bloody Indians, Pakistanis and Indians, coming over here,

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inventing us a national cuisine.

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LAUGHTER

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Before that, in the 16th century,

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it was bloody Huguenots, weren't it? Bloody Huguenots.

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Coming over here from medieval France. Bloody French.

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Religious heretics coming over here, doubting transubstantiation.

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LAUGHTER

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Bloody French Huguenots coming over here

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questioning the Eucharistic symbolism

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with their famed ability to weave little jerkins out of lace.

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We don't want your lace here.

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We've got corduroy.

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My name's Paul Nuttalls of UKIPs

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and I say we need to ensure the brightest and best Huguenots

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stay in medieval France and concentrate on

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revising its relationship with the Eucharistic tradition,

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instead of coming over here to the UK

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and teaching us to make hats out of lace.

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And before then, in the 5th century, was the Anglo-Saxons, weren't it?

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Bloody Anglo-Saxons,

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coming over here,

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from Northern Continental Europe.

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Bloody Anglo-Saxons with their inlay jewellery

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and their shit burial traditions,

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and their miserable epic poetry.

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RECITES ANGLOSAXON POEM

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To come over here, Anglo-Saxons,

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learn to speak the fucking language.

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APPLAUSE

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My name's Paul Nuttall from UKIP

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and I say we need to ensure the brightest and best Anglo-Saxons

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stay in 5th century Northern Continental Europe

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instead of coming over here to the UK

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and laying down the basis of our entire future language and culture.

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And before them, 2000BC, 4,000 years ago,

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was the Beaker folk, weren't it?

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Bloody Beaker folk.

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The Beaker folk.

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Coming over here,

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rowing up the Tagus Estuary from the Iberian Peninsula

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in improvised rafts.

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The bloody Beaker folk, coming over here with their beakers.

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With their drinking vessels.

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What's wrong with just cupping up the water in your hands?

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And licking it up like a cat?

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My name's Paul Nuttall of UKIP and I say

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we need to ensure the brightest and best Beaker folk

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stay in the Iberian Peninsula and fill it with beakers

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instead of coming over here to the UK

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and teaching us to drink liquid out of cups.

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And before them, 4500 BC,

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6,500 years ago, the Neolithic people, weren't it?

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Bloody Neolithic people,

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coming over here from Continental Mediterranean.

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Neolithic people.

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Coming over here with their pictograms,

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and their primitive wheat farming innovations,

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and their astrological stone circle temples

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with all the rocks aligned with the movements of the planets.

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What's wrong with just worshipping a tree?

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LAUGHTER

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My name's Paul Nuttall of UKIPs

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and I say we need to ensure the brightest and best Neolithic people

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stay in Mediterranean Continent

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instead of coming over here to the UK

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and teaching us to make and eat bread.

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And before them, 400 million years ago,

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when the first fish crawled up onto the land.

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Our land.

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You get back in the sea.

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You finned cunt.

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Coming up here, onto our land

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with your barely developed lungs

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and your hopes and dreams of a better tomorrow for fish.

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Get back in the sea.

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My name's Paul Nuttall of UKIP

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and I say we need to ensure the brightest and best fish

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stay in the sea and concentrate on making it aquatically prosperous

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instead of coming up here onto the land

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and beginning the process of evolution

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that will eventually lead to all life on Earth as we know it.

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It's too full, isn't it?

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Not Britain. Reality is too full.

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Reality is too full, isn't it? Reality.

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There's too much stuff everywhere.

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In reality, isn't there?

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I liked it when there was nothing. Remember?

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Remember when nothing existed at all? There was nothing.

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And it was just an infinite void of nothing, and nothing existed.

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Brilliant. Remember?

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Remember the old nothing?

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The old times of nothing.

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Remember? When there was nothing.

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Remember? The old nothing.

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Remember when there was nothing?

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Remember?

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# Oh, oh there's nothing

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# There's nothing

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# Oh, remember. Oh, remember

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# Oh, there's nothing at all

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# Anywhere

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# Oh, there's nothing

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# Nothing. Nothing

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# Oh, there's nothing anywhere at all

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# Remember the old...

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# Oh, is there anything over there?

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# No, there's nothing

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# What about round over there?

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# There's nothing there either

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# Is there anything over there?

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# No. There's nothing

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# What about over there?

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# No, there isn't There's nothing. #

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Remember in the old? Remember, nothing.

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# Oh, nothing, nothing, nothing Nothing, oi!

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# There's nothing, nothing at all

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# Ah, nothing at all

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# Nothing. Nothing, nothing, nothing

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# Nothing

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# Nothing

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# Nothing

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# Nothing out there

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# There's nothing at all

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# Out there is nothing

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# Oh, there's nothing

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# There's nothing. #

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The old nothing times. Remember?

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When there was nothing. Oh, it's brilliant.

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There was no planets, was there? No.

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And there was no suns, was there? No.

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There was no crime.

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LAUGHTER

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Make of that what you will.

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Could leave your house unlocked, couldn't you?

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Cos it didn't exist.

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There was nothing and it was bloody brilliant, and now, oh...

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There was a big bang, wasn't there?

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I don't remember anyone asking me if I wanted a big bang.

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And now there's all this matter, isn't there?

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Coming over here

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and existing.

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My name's Paul Nuttall of UKIP

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and I say we need to ensure the brightest and best

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particles of energy

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that are yet to find a physical form

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stay in an infinite void of nothing instead

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of somehow coming together

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and forming the basis of everything

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that will ever exist.

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LAUGHTER

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It's not fair to make fun of Paul Nuttall from UKIP though,

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because he's only trying as best he can

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to ensure the future domestic prosperity

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of Bulgaria. I don't doubt that for a minute.

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And that is the main thrust of all UKIP policy.

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That and bring back smoking in pubs.

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And all the other stuff -

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the homophobia, the climate change denial,

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hitting people over the head with magazines.

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That's all incidental to the main

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pro-Bulgaria, pro-smoking thrust.

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I appreciate that I am protected from many

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of the stresses and strains that turn people against one another

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but I do think we can all get on.

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I live here, in the people's republic of Hackney

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in North East London. It's very culturally diverse.

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They're not really in this audience, but...

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LAUGHTER

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But I've had kids at nursery and playgroup here.

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And what they do at the nurseries and playgroups in

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Hackney... They celebrate all the different kids' festivals

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and cultural events in what you might call a logical, sensitive

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and pragmatic approach to cultural diversity

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gone mad.

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LAUGHTER

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They celebrate Christian Christmas,

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Chinese New Year, Muslim Michaelmas,

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Atheist April Fool's day,

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Pantheus' Pancake Day,

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Odinist Oatcake Day

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and Lesbian Gay and Bisexual Harvest Festival,

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which is a fantastic day -

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full of fruit for all the family.

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But EDL members and Daily Telegraph readers, relax,

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they do celebrate St George's Day as well.

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On St George's Day they told me I had

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to send my little two-year-old girl into the Hackney playgroup

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dressed in traditional English costume,

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so I sent her in dressed

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as a 1970s English football hooligan

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with a cross of St George and all swastikas drawn on her face,

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and I had her drunk on Special Brew

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and high on amphetamines.

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I gave her sharpened coins to throw at horses,

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and I had her shouting,

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"I'm English, I'm English! Want to make something of it?"

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Now, that led to a misunderstanding

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and the police became involved.

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Apparently, if you say you're English these days

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you get arrested and thrown in jail.

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APPLAUSE AND LAUGHTER

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And what I've realised lately

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is audiences that come out to things, they do want to enjoy themselves,

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and my job is to allow them to.

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And previously I've spent too much time trying to stop them

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from enjoying themselves, I think.

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You've become a sort of traffic warden for their laughter.

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You're going, laugh for five seconds, stop.

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This one's really hilarious. Make a lot of noise.

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-Yep.

-I mean, I've seen you do that for hours.

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I know, well, the laughter is in the room like a resource

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that's bottled up.

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My job is to decant,

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to decant enjoyment from a collective body of people.

0:23:240:23:28

But to decant it at a rate that is

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just enough to eke out

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half an hour of laughs for BBC Two.

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It's like being a surgeon.

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A trepanning sort of...

0:23:350:23:37

It's like being a...

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A man with a drill.

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A surgeon or someone

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that milks semen out of a pig for, um,

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for artificial insemination.

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The laughter is like the pig semen

0:23:470:23:49

and the audience

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are like the genitals of the pig

0:23:510:23:52

and the comedian

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is the person milking the pig semen out

0:23:540:23:57

with a view towards selling it on

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for use in industrial farming techniques.

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SOMBRE MUSIC PLAYS

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MUSIC CONTINUES

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THRUMMING

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SIZZLING

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CHIMING

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ROMANTIC MUSIC PLAYS

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DRONING

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WHIRRING

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MUSIC STOPS

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ROARING

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MUSIC: "Jerusalem"

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