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# There may be trouble ahead | 0:00:09 | 0:00:14 | |
# But while there's moonlight and music and love and romance | 0:00:14 | 0:00:20 | |
# Let's face the music and dance | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
# Let's face the music and dance. # | 0:00:24 | 0:00:31 | |
Yes, no, absolutely. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:35 | |
No, absolutely. We're completely up to speed with this. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
'It's 07:30 in the morning, | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
'but Twenty Twelve Head of Deliverance, Ian Fletcher | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
'has already had his first call of the day from the Mayor's Office. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
They're called Priority Lanes, | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
and there is no higher priority than bikes, therefore if... Argh! | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
No, I'm fine... Therefore if they haven't got any bikes in them | 0:00:52 | 0:00:56 | |
then they're not Priority Lanes. Exactly, consequentia mirabilis... | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
No, absolutely. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
Great, yes. Well, look. What I'll do is... | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
Yes, no, absolutely. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
I'll get Graham Hitchens, Head of Infrastructure, onto this. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
Exactly. Yes, exactly, and the moustache. Exactly, yes. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
In fact, better idea, why don't you call him direct? | 0:01:16 | 0:01:21 | |
Because this is exactly... | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
this whole "Games Lanes" thing is exactly the kind of stuff | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
that really pushes his buttons. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
And we'll take it from there! OK? | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
Right, absolutely. Yes. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:32 | |
OK, bye. Bye, bye. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
-Christ! Morning, Sally. -Oh, hi. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:36 | |
I mean, what the bloody hell was he like when he was a nine year old? | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
-That's what I want to know. -Yes that's, uh. -How are you today? | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
-Um, yeah, not bad thanks. No, I'm good. -Good. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
-Have you spoken to Seb yet? -No, not yet. No. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
-I know he's been calling but I could not get Biggles off the intercom. -Yes, cos, er... | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
-Do you know anything about the paper towels in the toilets? -Right... -They've disappeared. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
-Now there's some kind of... I don't know what on the wall. -I think you might have to ask Kay. -Kay? | 0:01:56 | 0:02:01 | |
-Yes. I think it's actually something to do with more, er... -Ahh. -Changing to a sustainable... | 0:02:01 | 0:02:06 | |
Yes, yes. Whatever. Brilliant. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:07 | |
Um, Seb wanted you to call him as a matter of some urgency, actually. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
-Right, OK. I thought he was in India. -Yes, he is. -Great. OK. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
-I'll just do your knuckles, shall I? -Oh, no. That's, er, oh. Well, OK. Maybe, then. -Yep. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:19 | |
Right. No, absolutely. We have to be setting the agenda | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
otherwise this could get very out of shape, very quickly. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
'Overnight, the head of the Algerian Olympic Delegation | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
'has issued a statement. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:31 | |
'Following a tour of the Olympic Village he is insisting | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
'on separate worship facilities, after discovering that the Shared Belief Centre, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
'which has already been built, does not face Mecca.' | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
That should give us a bit of, ooh, that should give a bit of, er... | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
Yes! To assess the... Exactly, yes! | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
If there is any damage, and I really don't think there will be. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
So that's all good. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:50 | |
Absolutely! Yes, will do. Not at all. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
OK, bye! Bye, bye, bye. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
Right. | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
Well, this is going to be interesting. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
-Yes. You might want to keep still a moment. -Right, sorry. -No, that's fine. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
-You do realise, I'm completely in your hands, Nurse. -Yes, no, that's not a problem. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:09 | |
Erm... A couple of preliminaries before we get started. Firstly ticketing. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:19 | |
Oh right, here we go. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:20 | |
Just want to clarify and remove any further fuzziness around this area, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
there seems to be a pretty strong view from upstairs | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
that we all make a point | 0:03:26 | 0:03:27 | |
-of using the official channels when applying for tickets. -Right. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
-The Germans have already got towels on half the seats for the sprint events anyway. -Yeah, classic. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
Well, no. I think the key thing is... | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
'For this morning's Heads Up, | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
Ian is joined by Head of Contracts, Nick Jowett, | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
'Head of Infrastructure, Graham Hitchins, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
'and Head of Sustainability, Kay Hope.' | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
-..it is a completely fair and open process. -Oh, that's great. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
-See you all at the women's ping pong, then. -OK, good. -You haven't applied for that as well? | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
Right, now, the other thing is a reminder that as of this week | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
-we're going to be a slightly larger family. -Yeah, what? | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
I gather Fiona Healey might well be joining us today at some point. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
-So that's all good. -Today? | 0:04:01 | 0:04:02 | |
-Fiona who? -A bit earlier than we thought, but it'll be great | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
to finally have Legacy round the table with us here | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
rather than outside the tent, uh, looking in at the table. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
-Great. -I'm sure we'll all make her feel welcome. Good! | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
-I thought that wasn't till next month. -Well, I know. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
But as it turns out it's even earlier than that. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
-Right. -So that's all good. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
So moving on to the main business now. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
I'm sure we've all seen the stories this morning, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
and you don't need me to tell you how high the stakes are with this | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
and how crucial it is that we take a completely... | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
No, na-ah. Not going to happen. Nope. Hey... | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
OK, so here's the thing, here's where we're at. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
I'm talking now. No-one knows who Sally Gunnell is. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
Did she run, did she jump, did she throw stuff? Who cares? | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
Everyone knows who Sharon Osborne is. It's a no-brainer. Right, I've got to go. OK. Bye. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
'Given the potential importance of the Algerian situation | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
'Head of Brand, Siobhan Sharpe, from PR company Perfect Curve, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
'has arrived to join them, despite how busy she is.' | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
-So. -Siobhan. -Hey, guys. -Welcome. -OK, so thanks for waiting. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:58 | |
-Um, so first up... -No, actually we have started, Siobhan. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
-Oh, OK. -If that's OK? -Sure. -Good. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
So, as I was... | 0:05:05 | 0:05:06 | |
'Ian's immediate priority is to agree an initial response to | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
'the Algerian statement as soon as possible in order to gain the initiative and to buy time.' | 0:05:10 | 0:05:15 | |
Well, let's cut to the chase with this. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
Basically, we're talking about a mosque | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
-in the middle of the Olympic Village. -Right. -Brilliant. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
-Now clearly this is a non starter, for obvious reasons. -Not going to happen. Way too crazy. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
-Cos, I suppose once you go down that road, I mean where will it end? -Exactly. -Well, Mecca presumably. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:31 | |
Yeah, Mecca, yeah. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
On the other hand, crucially, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:34 | |
we can't be seen to be closed to the idea of a Mosque either. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
-No, absolutely. No. -Totally. -Especially not if we are. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
Yes. And at the same time any suggestion of special treatment | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
on religious grounds | 0:05:43 | 0:05:44 | |
could potentially trigger a wave of reaction | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
from any of the other religious groups among competing nations. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
I'm not being funny here, but, trust me, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
-you do not want to annoy the Russian Orthodox weight lifters. -Right. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
-Some of those guys are on, like, four chickens a day already, before... -OK. Thank you, Graham. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
OK. Well, I'm just saying, that's all. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
This couldn't be a more delicate issue and we have to get it right. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
-Absolutely, yes. -OK, guys. If we don't whack this racoon first time | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
-we are looking at a total crap fest here, OK. -Yes, OK, Siobhan. -No question. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
Bearing all that in mind I think what I want us to focus on right now | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
is how we move from the problem phase of the problem | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
to the solution phase of the problem as swiftly as possible. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
-Right, yes. -I'm totally good with that. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
-Right. I'm going to say this. -Nick. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
Call me old fashioned, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:25 | |
would anyone notice if the Algerians didn't turn up? | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
I mean, really? | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
Right. OK. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:31 | |
As host city for Twenty Twelve, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
London prides itself on its multicultural, uh... | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
..multiculturalness? Er, no. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
Prides itself on its... multiculturality. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
Can you just check and see if that's actually a proper... | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
Sure, no a problem. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:46 | |
'By now it's nearly ten o'clock. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:47 | |
'With the press waiting for a response | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
'to the Algerian threat to boycott the Games, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
'Ian has decided to draft a press release himself to save time.' | 0:06:51 | 0:06:56 | |
'And not only that, but Siobhan has agreed to help him.' | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
The Centre is designed, specifically designed | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
with the needs of the world's major belief systems in mind. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
Christian, no let's put that last. Let's put Islam first. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
-OK, yep. -Good call. -Islam, Buddhism, Hindu... -Muslim. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
-No we've had that. Hindu. Have I said that already? -Yes. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
-Bugger. God. -Judaism? | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
Oh, bloody hell! Yes, brilliant, Sally. Brilliant. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
-That was a close call. Judaism. -Muslim. -No, we've had that already. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
-Na-ah, I don't think so. -It's possible you haven't been listening. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
No, I totally have. You got Islam, you got... | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
-Well, there you go. -No, Muslim, Ian. Duh. -Right. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
-And Muslim's kinda like the main shit here, you know? -OK. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
The last thing I want to be is picky about this but, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
as far as I'm aware, the definition of a Muslim is one who believes in Islam. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
-No. Really? -Really. -Yes, actually. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
Wow! God, that's like, who knew? | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
Well exactly. I know. OK right, good. So Islam, Buddhism, Hindu, Judaism. Have I left any out? | 0:07:48 | 0:07:54 | |
-Erm... -Sounds cool to me. OK, guys, I think we're done here. Let's roll. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
I mean are we going to put in Christianity or... | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
-Oh, God, yes. -You know, just in case? -Jesus. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
Yeah, hi. It's me. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
Don't reply to this, well you won't anyway, you haven't replied to the others... | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
Since separating from his wife | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
three months ago, Ian's been living with his sister in Dulwich, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
but tomorrow he's due to move into a rented flat of his own. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
The only spare set of keys to this flat I'm moving into | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
are through your bloody letter box, for some reason, instead of sending them to me. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
'Laura's been refusing to forward any mail since I left.' | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
Bills, car tax, credit cards. Complete chaos. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
-PRODUCER: -Why do you think she's doing that? -God knows. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
She's being bloody awkward, really. She's had the locks changed, obviously. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
It's so I have to go and pick them up whilst she's there. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
-PRODUCER: -Why do you think she wants you to? -She's being bloody awkward. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
-PRODUCER: -D'you think it could be because you're moving into your own flat | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
so that sort of marks a new stage in the whole emotional journey of, | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
you know, towards, or apart from each other? | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
-Yes, no. She's just being bloody awkward. PRODUCER: -Oh, right. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
REPORTER: There is a new development, Katie, which is this reaction | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
from the President of the French Olympic Committee. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
He was pretty clear that if the French see | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
anything they regard as any kind of concession to the Algerian demands | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
for a Mosque, then they too would be prepared to pull out of the Games. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:07 | |
In the meantime the organizers themselves, | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
the Olympic Deliverance Commission, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
have put out what it's fair to describe | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
as a pretty carefully-worded statement on this issue. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
In it they talk about London as a host city, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
which prides itself on its multiculturality, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
which I guess is a word we're all going to have to get used to now. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
But by the time Ian has got back up to the office, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
the stakes in the Algerian boycott issue have suddenly got higher. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
Whether that's enough | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
to take the heat out of this potentially explosive issue, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
I guess the next few days will tell. Katie. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
-Right, well. Great. Sorry, Katie. -Yeah, sorry, Katie. -Brilliant. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
-Can I talk to you about Games Lanes? -Not now, Graham. -OK. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
OK, guys. So here's the thing with this. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
We just caught a barrel load of shit here. Let's handle it. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
Still, I suppose at least we know multiculturality is a word. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
PHONE RINGS Hi, how are you. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
-It's leading-edge green technology - they're from Denmark. -Denmark? | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
-Yeah, I'll bet it is. -Yeah, like they know about hand dryers. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
Guys, we've got major mission creep, here. Can we focus? | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
-We've had the wind-up kettle, but this... -Hang on, wind-up kettle? | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
With events now gathering momentum by the hour, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
Ian has called the team together in the hope of staying ahead of them. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
I don't ask for much in life, but where I come from, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
you don't dry your hands on your trousers. That's all I'm saying, I don't care who you are. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
-How's it going? -Yeah, not bad. -Yeah, good. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
That contraption could change the world for the better. I really think that. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
I've nothing against changing the world, love. It just doesn't dry your hands. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
I've just been speaking to Seb in India. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
Later today we're hoping to talk to this Dr Benhamadi guy, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
and unless we've got something decent to offer him, | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
we'll be washing our hands of the Olympic Games. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
-Hmm, yeah, right. -Totally. -So. What have we got here? | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
The earlier press release may have bought them time, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
but Ian's worry now is that they may have already spent it. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
OK, what it is, if you look at the plans, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
the problem we've got | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
is that none of the walls of the Belief Centre actually faces Mecca. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
But that's impossible. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
-The problem is it faces East. -That's right, isn't it? | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
No, that's not right. Cos Mecca is only East if you're due West of it. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
But there are four walls. There are only four directions. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
One of them must be... Just a minute, which way is East? | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
No, don't start that. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
It's upside down. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:04 | |
-OK so East is over here. -Right, OK. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
-Hang on, it's over here. -Yep. -Whatever. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
Whereas the problem you've got is Mecca | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
is actually 121 degrees East South East, over here somewhere. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:16 | |
Right. Thank you, Graham. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
Currently 909 feet above sea level, no pet shops. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
So, short of turning the entire building around... | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
With the Shared Belief Centre already designed and built, | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
the task now is to decide what to do about that. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
-I mean we could offer them tickets. -How are we going to get hold of those? | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
Yeah, I mean, unless they're keen on men's volleyball. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
You've not applied for that as well? | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
The centre of this is an issue of faith and we've got to find a way of addressing that head on. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:43 | |
-OK, what about shoes? -Shoes? | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
What if we agree nobody will wear shoes in the Shared Belief Centre. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
-Yes. -Cool. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
Yes. I'm not sure that's going to be quite enough to swing it somehow. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
What if we get them to take socks off as well. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
-Yes, well. -No, that's wrong. I don't think it works like that. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
-Why don't we just hand out free beards to everyone? -Thanks, Nick. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
I'm sorry, we're all over the place. I don't care who you are. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
OK, here you go look, "Qiblah, Arabic for direction. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
"Also transliterated as Qibla, Kiblah or Kibla." | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
-Well, yes. -OK, whatever. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
"Direction faced during prayer | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
"symbolizing the unity of Muslims worldwide under Law of God." | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
-Right. OK. -Right, well that's it then. We're stuffed. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
It must be possible to have one internal wall | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
-that faces in a different direction, surely. -What? | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
Why can't we build our own Qiblah wall inside somewhere? | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
-Cool. -It's going to look like a kid's drawing in there. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
-Let's worry about that later, but it must be possible. -It's surely possible, yes. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
Thanks, Ian, that's great. Let's do this. Let's build this wall. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
I'll give you the number of the guys that did my kitchen. This is right up their street. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
They can measure up this afternoon, they offer a complete service, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
but you probably need to decide whether you want curtains or blinds. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
Right. God. I mean, I just haven't had time to... | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
-Of course, not a problem. -Frankly it's bloody annoying, really. -Yeah. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
They say fully furnished and bugger off with all the curtains in the flat. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
-Yes. Very annoying actually. So, in the bedroom... -Right, yes. Sorry, Sally. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
For Ian, finding the time to finalise arrangements for the move into his new flat hasn't been easy. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:10 | |
-What would you suggest? -Me? -Yes. Otherwise I'm just never going to make this. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
-In the bedroom? -Yes. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
Um, well... | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
But fortunately, his PA, Sally Owen, is on hand to be there for him. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
I'm very lucky with Sally. There are lots of days where you think, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
"How could I actually have got through it without her?" | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
And it's funny cos you think, you know, she's so bright, | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
why doesn't she just, you know, what's she doing behind that desk? | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
But then I suppose she seems happy enough so no, I am very lucky. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
And then go for something more Venetian in the living room. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
-Right. -And that can sometimes be quite nice, actually. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
Well that sounds, I mean, let's do it. Let's go with that shall we? | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
-Yeah, OK. -Kay, hi. Come on in. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
-We're done aren't we, Sally? -I think so. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
-Have you? -Oh yes, no that was lovely, thanks. -Not a problem. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
Ian has asked Head of Sustainability Kay Hope to step into his office. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
-This won't take a moment. I know how busy you are. -Yes, absolutely. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:03 | |
I just wanted to mention something to you, that's all. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
I'm on my way over to Clerkenwell to meet the hand drier guys. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
-Oh right, yes. -They're going to take me through a few modifications. -Right. That's great, Kay. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
-Everyone's busy, sustainability is the last thing anyone wants to think about. -Well, that's not true. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
That's fine. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:17 | |
Sustainability isn't about being popular. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
Sustainability is the centre pole that keeps this whole tent up. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
-Well... -No, it is. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
Were it not for that centre pole at the centre then it, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
you know, I mean how would we know where the centre was? | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
If this works, this could go down as the Games that changed the way the world dried its hands. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
-Right. -I really think that. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
-That's great, but that's not actually what I wanted to talk to you about. -Oh, right. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
I just wanted to run something past you very quickly. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
You know Fiona Healey is probably arriving at some point today. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
Right, yes. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
I was thinking, it's great Legacy are finally going to have a presence | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
in the building alongside Sustainability. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
And while we're getting an office sorted for her, what with the re-jig, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
I was just thinking it might be possible to put a temporary desk in your office... | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
-A desk? -Yes, just as a... | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
-What do you mean? What kind of a desk? -What kind of a desk? | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
Yes, actually. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:05 | |
I'm sure Keith will come up with some temporary arrangement that... | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
Sustainability is not actually about temporary arrangements, actually. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
No, of course not. Obviously it's not ideal, but we're talking about a couple of days at most, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
and Sustainability and Legacy, well, they, they're... | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
-Are totally different. -Well, of course they are, yes. -Totally. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
No absolutely, but at the same time in lots of other ways, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
I mean, you know, they're natural bedfellows. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
Speaking to a source inside the Foreign and Commonwealth Office | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
just here behind me a few minutes ago, Katie, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
and they were unable to either confirm or deny | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
the stories that we've been hearing that Morocco is now the latest | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
country to become involved in this rapidly escalating crisis. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
But as the day progresses it's becoming clear that office arrangements | 0:15:45 | 0:15:51 | |
may turn out to be the least of Ian's problems. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
Then of course that raises the very real prospect of other Muslim | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
and non-Muslim countries lining up to support either one side or the other, | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
which of course is exactly the sort of nightmare scenario | 0:16:00 | 0:16:06 | |
'that Olympic organisers will be desperate to...' | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
Think I've got the gist of that. So that's all good. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
-Ian Fletcher's Office. -Yeah, can we talk about... -No, sorry, Graham. -OK. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
Well, problems are just solutions waiting to happen. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
Following news of a possible Moroccan threat to pull out | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
of the Games in support of the Algerians, | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
Ian has been asked by the Foreign Office to take part in a video conference | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
with Dr Benhamadi in Algiers and Seb Coe in Mumbai. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
No, I can't do that. Sorry, I can't do that. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
Yes, no, I'll get him to call you back. The earliest possible. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
Right. Yes, of course I will. All right, thank you very much. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
Thanks. No. Bye-bye. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
-Should be back about four. -Right, yes. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
Maybe five at the latest I imagine, but really who knows today. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
-Absolutely, yes. -Right. OK. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
Uh, I don't know whether... | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
Oh yes, that's great thanks, Sally. I haven't had time for anything. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
I just thought, you know, in the cab. Just for energy and potassium. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
Yes, no that's brilliant. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
-First Aid, curtain fittings, bananas. I mean, where's it going to end? -Not a problem. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
-Ah, right. -Err. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
-I've got a feeling that's Fiona Healey. -Right. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
-Today of all days. -I'll just tell her to go away. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
No, no it's OK. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
-I suppose I should just say hello to her quickly. -Not a problem. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
Head of Legacy Fiona Healey has arrived | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
for her first day in the ODC offices. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
You, too. Welcome to Deliverance. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
Thank you. You make it sound like a nightclub. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
-Well yes, we are pretty funky, aren't we Sally? -Uh, yes. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
-Yeah, no, This is really annoying, but I'm just on my way out actually. -Oh sure, no worries Ian. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
Otherwise I'd give you the full initiation routine myself. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
That's a shame, but I'm a big girl. I can figure things out for myself. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
In the meantime if there's anything you need, ask Sally, | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
-because she's basically running the Olympics. -OK. -I'm not really, actually. -Sure. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
-Great to meet you and we'll do this properly later. -Sure, absolutely Ian. -Bye. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
-Right, OK. -Graham can I, just before you start. -Yep. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
-I just want you to ask yourself, is this so important? -Yeah, it is. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
-No, I haven't finished yet. -OK. -Is this so important that it has to be dealt with now? | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
-Yeah, it is. Yeah. -Right. Can you walk and talk? | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
-Erm, yeah. -Right. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
The whole point of Game Lanes | 0:18:06 | 0:18:07 | |
is there's nothing else allowed in there for those three weeks. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
As Head of Infrastructure, Graham Hitchins has been talking to | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
the Mayor's office about the issue of special Games Lanes | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
on London's roads during the period of the Games. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
Now they're saying I've got to phone them back, like today, and talk to him personally, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
-like, you know, talk to the Mayor of London. -OK. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
No. It's not OK, is it? Cos what am I supposed to say to him? | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
I don't know any Latin. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
-I think for Boris the thing about bike lanes is their symbolic value. -Yeah, that's fine. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
-You know, as well as their practical value. It's a flagship policy. -Yeah, that's all fine. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
You can have as many symbolic bike lanes as you like, with symbolic bikes. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
-In the end you've got real people trying to ride them, though. -Yes. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
I mean, you've got a symbolic bike lane in the middle of the road | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
where everything else is real, you got a disaster waiting to happen. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
Following the Moroccan response to the French response | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
to the Algerian threat to boycott the Games, | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
press interest in the developing crisis is growing. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
-REPORTER: -But isn't the problem now how do you stop the Algerians | 0:19:00 | 0:19:05 | |
and possibly the Moroccans pulling out without building a Mosque? | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
How do you stop the French pulling out if you do? | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
And in the meantime how do you stop the contagion spreading? | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
Yes. Multiculturality is the centre pole, of not just the 2012 tent, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
which we happen to think is a pretty impressive tent in its own right, | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
but also of London's tent, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
and some would say it's what keeps Britain's tent up today. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
In fact without that pole, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
it could be argued there wouldn't be a centre at all. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
So that's all good, and we take that thought going forward today, | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
as in consultation with our Belief Partners, we just tension the last few guy ropes | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
and tighten the canvas of our plans in that area. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
OK. Thanks, guys. That's great. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
-It's bloody big, isn't it? -Yes, it is. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
-Graham, please don't feel you need to come in for this. -No, that's alright. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
I mean I know you've got a lot on today as it is. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
No, that's fine. I've come all this way in a bloody taxi. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
Left my money and that in my jacket anyway, so... | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
-Oh, well. -And my bloody Oyster Card. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
Oh, well look, I can give you 20 quid if you want. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
-You don't have to do that. I was going to come in anyway. -No, no, that's not what... | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
-Oh yeah, alright, I don't mind. Thanks. Great. -Right. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
So we've got Dr Benhamadi in Algiers, Seb in Mumbai, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
though we're having a bit of trouble with that at the moment. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
-Right. -I don't know how familiar you are with the telepresence thing. -A bit, yes. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
Really is phenomenal when it works. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
-Here we are. Ian Fletcher, this is Richard Parker. -Yes, hello, Ian. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
Hello. Good to meet you. And this is Graham... | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
-Oh, yeah, Graham, yeah. -Yes. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
Yeah, I left my Oyster card in my jacket, so... | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
-Shall we do this? -Yes. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
As Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
with responsibility for Afghanistan, South Asia, North America, the Middle East | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
and North Africa, Richard Parker | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
is a man who doesn't have time to suffer fools either gladly or in any other way. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
-Yeah, hi. Oh, right. -Right. When do you think that'll be? | 0:20:52 | 0:20:57 | |
Cos we're pretty much ready at this end. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
Er, London... | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
The British Foreign and Commonwealth Office. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
No, that is in London, I can assure you. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:05 | |
Ian, I haven't talked to this Benhamadi guy personally, | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
but by all accounts he can be a bit tricky. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
-I think we've got a good proposition for him. -Good. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
Unless he's going to insist on a minaret. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
Cos however tricky he is, the fact is he's probably our one chance to stop this going nuclear. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
-Yes. -And he knows it. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
In my experience a guy like this shapes to put his foot on your throat, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
the best way to stop him is to compliment him on his shoes. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
-Right, yes. -Anyway, good luck. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
-Thank you. -So where are we up to, Justin? | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
Because there's bugger all on telly at the moment. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
Yeah, it's looking like we're struggling a bit with Mumbai at the moment. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
Anything at all you're not struggling with? | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
The good news is we're nearly there with Algiers, we should have him any minute. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
-Justin's on our fast-track programme. -Right. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
-But he's doing it at his own speed. -Really? | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
We used to have this brilliant tech support guy. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
He was phenomenal. But he left and he wasn't actually replaced. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
Still, chance for the Justins of this world to step up to the plate and not fuck everything up. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
Hello? Yes. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
Meanwhile back over at the ODC, | 0:22:02 | 0:22:03 | |
newly-arrived Head of Legacy Fi Healey is busy settling in. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
-Hi, Sally. -Oh, hi. Yes, hi. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
-OK, so. Most important question first, I guess. -OK, yep. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:15 | |
What is my best chance of getting a decent cappuccino? | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
Yes, there's a machine two floors down in the lift lobby actually. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
-Right. -Doesn't take five pences. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
-OK, great. Erm, thanks for that. -Yep, not a problem. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
'Hi yes, it's Justin again at the British Foreign | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
'and Commonwealth Office. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
'Yeah. We're just, erm, London. Yeah.' | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
Yeah, we're ready for Dr Benhamadi now, please. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
OK. Shall I do that now? OK, thank you. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
-Oh, great. -OK, right. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
-Seb, hi. How are you? -Excellent. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
Seb. Seb. Is this, am I doing this right? | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
-No, you're fine. He may not actually be hearing you. -Yeah, no. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
Or in fact seeing you. I don't think he can see you. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
Yeah, he's not seeing anything. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:04 | |
-Well, here's an idea, shall we sort that out? -Um, hello? | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
What he needs to do, he needs to turn his camera on at his end. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
Well, no, his camera's on. That's how we can see him. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
Yeah, no, but he can't see us so he needs to turn his camera on. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
We can see him, he just can't see us. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
I mean what is he, blind? | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
Hi there, it's Justin here. Yeah, London. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
You haven't given us Algiers. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
Given the potential importance of the potentially four-way video conference, | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
things have not got off to a good start. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
No, it's great, but also it looks like... | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
I did press four. I did press four. No, it is Lord Coe, honestly. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
You're going to have to trust me. It's definitely him. Are you sure? | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
OK, I'll try that. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:42 | |
Sorry about this, I think we've got a bit of a half-wit here. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
That's handy. Between you you've almost got a whole. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
-OK, here we go. Oh right, OK. -Oh, Jesus Christ. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
-OK. Right. -Right, get that off. -OK, sorry. Hello? | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
I don't quite, I mean I've never seen that before. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
-Yeah, it's plugged up wrong. -What? -No, Graham. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
-Plugged up wrong. -Yeah, it's a classic. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
-Does your guy know about this? -Uh, no. Well, I mean he's Head of Infrastructure. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
-OK. Well, somebody's got to be. -I don't think this is really his... | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
-To be honest, guys, this is basic stuff, actually. -Even so, Graham. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
It seems to me we have tried our idiot | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
and that doesn't seem to be working. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
-So the issue is what have we got to lose by trying yours? -Yes. Uh... | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
Even though Graham wasn't originally due to be part of the video conference at all, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
fate has somehow decreed that he now is. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
You sure about this? I don't think anyone's been behind there before. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
No, looks like it. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
Hello? No, he's gone now. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
Looks like someone's plugged in the whole National Grid round here. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
-Graham perhaps it's best to leave this to... -OK, here you go, here try this. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
-IAN SIGHS -OK, right. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
-How's that? Right. OK. -Graham, I think I'd leave this. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
OK so that's that and that's that. OK. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:53 | |
I think we need to think about other ways of doing this. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:54 | |
Thank God you lot aren't organising the Olympics. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
-Right. I know what I did. -Oh, God, no. That's right, you are! | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
Yeah they're all one out, that's what it is. It's obvious. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
Right, so got to take those buggers out again. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
-There is a number for help here. -Is there a number for Dignitas? | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
OK. Right. So I'm just going to... No, hang on. No, that's wrong. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:16 | |
No, Graham, I really would leave this now. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
Hang on. OK, right. Right. Here we go. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
-Bloody hell. -Right. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
-OK, Graham, come out. -OK, got it now. Hang on. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
That's actually pretty impressive. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:32 | |
Working under pressure and against the clock, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
Graham is prepared to work methodically towards | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
identifying the correct box and then to think outside it. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
-Hang on, where's this one come from? -How long does it take to fly to Algiers? | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
-I mean, is there any reason we can't do that? -Hold on! There he is! -Jesus. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
-Right, Graham, stop. -We've got him. -How we doing? Oh right. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
-Do you think he can hear us? -I am hearing you, yes. And seeing you. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:56 | |
Dr Benhamadi, Richard Parker, Under Secretary of State, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
very good to see you. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
Welcome to our virtual world. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
Yes. I have been here for half an hour. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
At last, just when it looked least likely, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
there's finally contact with the man at the centre of the whole crisis. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
It's very good to have you with us now. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
Shall we start? We are all getting older. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
Exactly, yes. And with that in mind I'd to bring in straight away Ian Fletcher, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
-Head of Deliverance for London 2012. -Hello, Dr Benhamadi. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
It's very good to see you at last | 0:26:24 | 0:26:25 | |
and to have this chance to talk things through with you | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
and to just take the heat out of the, uh, discuss this thing. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
I'm sure we all want to be reasonable about this. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
Well, of course, reason is a Western obsession. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
Well, I'm not sure I'd go as far as calling it an obsession. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
Some would say that it is a mirage in the sand, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
that it does not bring happiness, that it is inimical to faith. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
Right. Yes. Excellent. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:46 | |
But... Dr Benhamadi? | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
Oh, Jesus Christ. That's a bit unfortunate. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
Yeah he looks like one of those... | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
Oh, what is it? Oh you know. Argh, you know those huge dogs! | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
Graham, Graham! | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
My mate Ross, his sister. She's got one and it's a bloody great... | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
Giant Schnauzer! That's it! There you go with bloody great face. Oh, here you are. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
Ah, right. Dr Benhamadi, welcome back. Can you hear us? | 0:27:05 | 0:27:10 | |
-Yes. -Oh good, because I think we lost you for a moment there. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
-Yes. I did not lose you. -Ah. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
-If you people think... -INTERRUPTED AUDIO | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
..you are wrong. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
-Ah, right. -No, he's gone now. Yeah. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
-Did you just call that guy a dog? -Yeah, I mean, that's... What? | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
# There may be trouble ahead | 0:27:43 | 0:27:48 | |
# But while there's moonlight and music and love and romance | 0:27:48 | 0:27:55 | |
# Let's face the music and dance | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
# Let's face the music and dance. # | 0:27:59 | 0:28:05 | |
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