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'Standby, two. Mix through. Cue on two.' | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
The BBC has announced the appointment of ex-head | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
of Olympic Deliverance, | 0:00:13 | 0:00:14 | |
Sir Ian Fletcher, as its new Head of Values. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
'Time now for the shipping forecast.' | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
'Superimpose...' | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
BBC RADIO PIPS SOUND | 0:00:28 | 0:00:33 | |
'It's a Monday morning and one time Head of London Olympic Deliverance | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
'Ian Fletcher is arriving in central London. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
'He's about to start a new chapter in his life.' | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
It's a big change for me, obviously. It's a big job. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
A huge challenge. A bit like the first day at big school. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
I've splashed out on a new bike though, just in case. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
So that's all good. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:02 | |
'He's come to New Broadcasting House in Upper Regent Street, | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
'to take up his position as Head of Values at the BBC, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
'a key and very senior new post, specifically created | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
'in the light of recent learning opportunities at the corporation.' | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
Hi, Izzy. It's Ian. Hi. So, I'm... Ian Fletcher. Yes, hi. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
So, I'm actually in reception and... Oh, right. OK. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
Well, not so far. I mean, I've been here five minutes. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
No, no. That's fine. Could you? That would be great. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
OK. No, don't worry. That's fine. OK, thanks. Bye. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
There's something about the place as soon as you come in. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
You're aware that you're at the centre of something genuinely | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
important, and the really exciting thing is to think that part | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
of my job is going to be trying to establish where that centre is | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
and also exactly what it's in the middle of. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
Y'ello. Yeah. Hi, Izzy. Hi. How are you? Yeah, I am. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
No, I mean, not. No, I haven't, not actually. Oh, right, cool. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
OK, cool. Yeah, good idea, yeah. Say again? | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
Yeah, yeah. No worries. I've got it. You sent it to me. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
Yeah, yeah. OK. Cool. OK. Bye-bye. Bye... | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
MOBILE RINGS | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
-Hello? -Yeah, hi. Is that Ian Fletcher? -Yes, it is, yes. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
-Cool. Yeah, so, I'm Will? I'm like, I'm meeting you? -Yes. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
So, like, where actually are you? Cos I'm, like, I'm basically here. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
-Yes. -So, I'm talking on the phone, uh, I'm looking round. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
Still talking. I'm looking. Looking... | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
-Hi. -No way. -Hello. Ian Fletcher. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
Yeah, hi. I'm Will. Except I've actually been here all the time. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
-Yes, so have I. -That's just, like... That's just, like, mental. -Yes. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
-Yeah, cos I'm actually, like, an intern. -Oh, right. I see. -Yeah. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
-What does that involve exactly? -Yeah. Say again? | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
You want to end up working in this area eventually? | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
-Well, do you mean, like, like, as a job? -Well, yes. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
-Wha... Yeah. Cool. -Yes. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:50 | |
'Sixth floor.' | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
What I'm doing is, I have to take you to Izzy. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
Right. And who's Izzy? | 0:02:54 | 0:02:55 | |
What? She's, yeah, she's... I mean, it's not like... | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
-A-ha! -Oh, hi. Yes. Simon. | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
-All hail the mighty Fletcher. -Well, no. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
-Welcome to the madhouse. -Yes. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
'Simon Harwood is the BBC's Director of Strategic Governance | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
'and underneath it all is probably one of the corporation's most | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
'strategic directors.' | 0:03:09 | 0:03:10 | |
-It's a good bike, by the way. -Yes, thanks. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
Yeah, cool. So, yeah, we're going to see Izzy. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
-Oh, no, that's OK. -No, but I have to take him to Izzy. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
-Oh, no, that's fine. I think Izzy was bringing him to me anyway. -Oh. OK. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
That's great, Will. I'll take it from here. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
-Yeah, cool. No worries. -So. -Yes. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
-What do you think of it so far? -Good. Yes. -Good. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
You know, early days, but so far, so good. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
-Are you OK with that like that? -Yes, no. That's fine. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
I've got one. They're brilliant, aren't they? | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
Yes, no, they're great, yes. I'm looking forward to getting started | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
-and just generally... -No, I'm sorry. I can't. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
-That's just not. I can't just... -Well, no, no, no. I mean it's... | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
-It's probably better to start again. -Well, no, you... | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
-Really, it's very easy. It's just a knack. -Yes. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
Let me just take that. Thank you. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
So, basically, it's just the back wheels. Forward and under. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
-Right, yes. -And then you've got your front wheel. There you go. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
-It's out and round. -Yes. Round. Yes. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
-Just drop the saddle down. -Yes, exactly. -And there. -Yes. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
-Brilliant, aren't they? -Yes, they are. Yes. Thanks. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
Listen, once you've got your bearings and everything, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
-be good to have a coffee. -Right, yes. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:06 | |
-I mean, if you can be arsed. -No, absolutely. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
Come and find me. I'm just past Norman Wisdom on the right. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
-Right. I'll just get myself sorted out first. -Oh, yes. Sure. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
-Probably should find my office and everything. -Yeah. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
So, the question we asked ourselves is... | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
..how would it be if things didn't have to be the way we know | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
they actually are, yes? | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
What would a world look like if it was different? | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
'New Broadcasting House was designed | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
'and built virtually from the ground upwards | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
'and there are regular Digital Handshake Sessions for new staff. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
'Today's run by Senior Technical Services Choreographer, Adam Brady.' | 0:04:39 | 0:04:44 | |
The whole point about Intuitive Technology, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
as opposed to Intelligent Technology, which is basically | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
just lights going on and off in toilets, yes? | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
The whole point about Intuitive Technology, | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
being that it comes pre-loaded into the building itself, OK? | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
Welcome to your virtual PA. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
One unified system, that changes the game, integrates your world, | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
synchs you with everything | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
and everyone around you, without you doing anything. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
Synchs you to the BBC itself, in real-time, wirelessly, | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
continuously and in real-time. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
11 years in development, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
guys and everyone, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
I give you Syncopatico. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
Fucking hell! | 0:05:29 | 0:05:30 | |
And of course, the angle they're going with is, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
if Paxman can fall asleep on air, what's it like for the viewers? | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
-Yeah, of course they are. -And we're saying he wasn't asleep? | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
We're saying he was concentrating on the answer he was being given. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
-Right, and who was he interviewing again? -Alex Salmond. -Ah. OK. -Yes. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
I know, but that's what we're saying, OK. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
Right. OK, good. All righty. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
'Meanwhile, in Tommy Cooper, | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
'the daily Senior Team Damage Limitation Meeting, chaired by | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
'Director of Strategic Governance, Simon Harwood, | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
'is already underway.' | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
-Ah, right. Good. -Ah. Thank God. -Apologies, everybody. -The great man. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
First of all, the meeting wasn't in my Syncopatical, for some reason. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
-No, no, of course. -And then when Will came to find me, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
-we ended up on the wrong floor. Didn't we, Will? -Yeah, totally, yes. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
-Yes. -Mental. -Anyway, many apologies. -No, no, no, come on in. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
-Actually, Will, would you just take that for me? -Yeah. Sure, no worries. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
Cool. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:27 | |
So, I mean, what... | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
-No, just take it. -OK. Cool. -Thanks. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
Brilliant. I don't know whether you know everyone. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
'On the Damage Limitation Team, Ian will be joining | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
'Head of Output Anna Rampton, recruited last year from her | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
'role as Head of Daytime Factuality at ITV, current Controller | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
'of News and Current Affairs Neil Reid, Senior BBC Communications | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
'Officer Tracey Pritchard, who as well as having been with the | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
'Corporation for nearly 20 years is also Welsh, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
'and two other people.' | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
So we've had the Independent and then the Telegraph has dug up | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
this guy from Mebyon Kernow from somewhere. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
-Yes, I saw that. -Uhhh. -From Cornwall, presumably. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
Now, I'm not being funny or anything | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
but this guy is in all probability a total nutcase, OK? | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
But his thing is there aren't enough Cornish voices and faces | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
on the BBC and that Cornish issues in general are under-represented. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
-Yeah, bollocks. -Brilliant. -I don't know what's going on | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
in the rest of his life but that's what he goes around thinking. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
-Anyone? Any thoughts? -Two words. Rick, Stein. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
OK, so what he's saying about Rick Stein is, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
he's saying we sent him off round China or I dunno, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
-wherever we've actually sent him now. -Is it China? | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
-Uh... -Yeah. -OK, well, wherever. -India. -Oh, yes, India. Yes. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
Anyway, his point is, we should have kept him in Cornwall, where | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
he belongs, with his little dog and his Land Rover and whatever. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
We gave China to Caroline Quentin last year at ITV, if you remember. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
Oh, that's right, yes. You so did. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:39 | |
Forgive me, but honestly, what the fuck are Cornish issues? | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
I'm sorry, guys. I'm not being funny or anything | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
-but this is like finding a spot on your whatsit. -Brilliant. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
Better to deal with it now than ignore it and see what happens. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
I mean, I don't know. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:51 | |
Is this something you'd want to be across in terms of Values, Ian? | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
-Yes. -I'm just thinking... -No, absolutely. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
-Cos if anything, it's probably more a Values issue. -Yes. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
-You know, rather than... -No, yes. -Rather than anything else. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
-Yes, no, I mean, yes, absolutely. -Good. Good. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
-So I should probably just mention that to Tony this afternoon. -Uh-huh. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
OK, great. Good-oh. This is all going terribly well. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
'With a gap before his next meeting, there's time at last for Ian | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
'to explore some of the possibilities offered | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
'by the open plan work environment in New Broadcasting House.' | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
No, know exactly what you mean. Well, I mean, you say that | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
but the fact is, a few years ago, Alan Titchmarsh was voted | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
the world's second sexiest man after George Clooney. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
No. I'm not, really. You can look it up. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
OK. Look forward to hearing from you, Annabelle. OK. Bye. Bye. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:56 | |
Hi. Sorry, I don't want to disturb you. I was just... | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
-I wouldn't, if I were you. -Right. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:00 | |
Oh, right. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
-They've been there for four days. -Right. -I think he's in Drama. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
-Oh. OK. Well... -Yes, he is. Drama. Yes. -Yes. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
Right, well, OK. Well, thanks anyway. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
Right. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:13 | |
-You can use this one for a while, if you're desperate. -Oh...well. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
-I shouldn't really. -I mean, are you sure? | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
I knew I wouldn't be able to keep it up. Typical. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
Oh, right. Well, thanks. Thank you. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
-Sorry, I won't disturb you any more. -That's OK. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
-But I have to ask... -Sure. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
-..that thing about Alan Titchmarsh... -Right, yes. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
That's not actually true, is it? | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
-Yes. -No, it's not. -It is, yes. -But I mean... | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
-What, you more of a Clooney man? -What? No, well, but that's... | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
-It was a survey. -Well, who the hell was voting? | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
I don't know. Maybe it was out of two. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
'Producer Lucy Freeman has been with the BBC for eight years, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
'and as such is both an experienced producer and still there. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
'Following an unforeseen rationalisation within her | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
'department, she's recently been invited to work | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
'on the sorts of programmes she never dreamed she'd be invited | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
'to work on when she originally joined.' | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
-I think we're almost there with Alan now, aren't we, David? -Yeah. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
-Which is good, obviously. -Lovely Alan. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
'Britain's Tastiest Village has been theoretically devised by | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
'Entertainment Format Producer David Wilkes, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
'and is to be theoretically hosted by the dream team | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
'of Alan Titchmarsh and Clare Balding. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
'It's been commissioned by Head of Output Anna Rampton, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
'and she's asked David and Lucy into her orbit for an update.' | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
-We've done the deal. -David? -Pretty much, yeah. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
-We haven't done the deal. -Yeah, pretty much. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
-I left a message with his agents earlier. -Right. Cool. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
-The fact is we need Alan locked in by now. -Yes. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
Yeah, no, it's fine. It's like Alan's just totally cool about everything. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
-Yes, but... -I think he's a lot happier in his life now basically. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
-Shit, can you tell Danny I can't do Friday? -Sure. Yep. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
-OK. What about Clare? -Right. -Lovely Clare. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
Yes, so where are we up to with Clare now, David? | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
OK, so, with Clare, it's just a bit more, it's like... | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
A bit more what? | 0:10:44 | 0:10:45 | |
OK, can I just say, OK, this is so not our fault. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
'But there's bad news. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
'The dates of How Big Is Your Dog?, a major new ITV show, | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
'to which Clare Balding is already committed, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
'have changed at the last minute, due to genuinely bad luck.' | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
-..just piss-poor bad luck. -So you're telling me what? | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
-Basically, we love Clare... -Yes, but David... | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
I said to her on the phone, "If I had my way, Clare, you would literally be Queen." | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
Mind you, she pretty much already is and she was like, "Oh, shut up." | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
-Tuesday's gone away now, right? -Yep, gone. -Good. OK. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
You're telling me we've lost Clare Balding. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
Uh, well, we... | 0:11:13 | 0:11:14 | |
I mean, if what David's saying is true, and I'm hearing it for the first time now, | 0:11:14 | 0:11:19 | |
-then it does look as if we might have lost Clare, doesn't it? -Right. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
I know. It's not words you ever want to hear. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
Apparently, OK, the most common last word the pilots | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
-say before they crash, right, is 'shit'. -Can he shut up? | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
-Yes. Can you please shut up, David? -Yes, all right. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
-Come on in. -Thanks. -Excuse the mess. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
So there is such a thing as an office, then? | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
No, sadly not. No door. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:55 | |
Well, it looks pretty much like an office to me. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
What it is, technically, is an Interactive Space. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
-Right, is it? -If anyone's interested. -Right. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
I suppose we'd better do some interacting quick then. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
Absolutely. Have a seat, if you can be bothered. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
-You know Ben and Jerry, don't you? -The... -Hi. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
I know. Real names. What are the chances? | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
'Director of Strategic Governance Simon Harwood has invited Ian | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
'into his Interactive Space for an informal chin wag.' | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
..just to get a sense of how you wanted to play things | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
and what all our lives are going to be like in the Fletcher era. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
Yes. Well, I mean, with Way Ahead... | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
-Yep. -I've done some thinking obviously. -Great. See? | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
'A key part of Ian's new role as Head of Values is to establish | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
'a new Way Ahead Task Force, with a remit to think Big Thoughts | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
'and to clarify the purpose of the BBC in a digital age.' | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
I mean, I don't know whether you had a chance to look | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
at the Pathfinding document. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:44 | |
-The... -Ah, OK. You haven't seen that. -Have we seen that? -Nope. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:49 | |
Apparently I haven't seen it. Sorry. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
OK. Cos I did put it in the Shared Priorities Folder in Syncopatico. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
-Oh, right. OK. -At least I think I did. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:56 | |
-You haven't got anything on paper. -Paper? -Yep. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
Uh, cos... Oh, no, it's in my Personal Folder, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
so there must be a way of... | 0:13:01 | 0:13:02 | |
Oh, I tell you what happens now. This is where Izzy comes in. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
-She does something brilliant and everything's lovely again. -OK. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
'With the renewal of the BBC's Royal Charter on which the future | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
'of the corporation depends, due in 2016, finding an answer to the | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
'question "What Is the BBC For?" before then | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
'could potentially be important.' | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
-Thank you, Izzy. -You OK for coffee? | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
-Yeah, fine, thanks. Maybe later. -OK. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
Right, good. So, no, yes, it's obviously very much | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
-Big Picture stuff at this stage... -Brilliant. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
'But as well as thinking about what the BBC is for, it's clear | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
'that Simon is also keen to think some Big Thoughts about Cornwall.' | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
So what I thought was... | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
No, brilliant. And when it comes to this bloody Trescott guy... | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
Right, OK. I mean, that's a different, uh... | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
-Yeah, what are your thoughts on that? -Right. -What do you think we should do? -Right. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
I suppose my thinking is, with that, sometimes it's a good idea to reach out to these people, rather than... | 0:13:47 | 0:13:52 | |
-Brilliant. -..you know, to make them feel they've been listened to | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
-and they generally... -You think you should meet him. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
-Yes, I mean... -Get him up from Cornwall and get him in here. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
-Well, obviously that's something I've... -God. That is amazing. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
-Have you been talking to Tony about this? -Tony... -Tony. Director General guy. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
Yes, no, of course. No, I haven't, but in fact... | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
Cos Tony is the king of the personal approach, isn't he? | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
-Uh-huh. -Because one thing I have been thinking... -Yep. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
It would be good to sit down and have a coffee with Tony | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
myself at some point. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:15 | |
-Yes. Absolutely. -I mean, if that's possible. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
-No, I think that's a great idea, Ian. -Right. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
-No, we should definitely think about that. -Uh-huh. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
-Carol. -This is Anna Rampton, Head of Output. -Yes. -Hello. -Hello. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
-And David Wilkes, Producer and Format Originator. -Hi. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
I know we haven't started yet, but can I just say, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
I never want this lunch to end. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:50 | |
'Meanwhile, elsewhere, it's a different day altogether | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
'and somewhere in central London, Anna Rampton, David Wilkes | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
'and Lucy Freeman are meeting Carol Vorderman for salad.' | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
I mean, I suppose basically, in a nutshell, you could say... | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
-I mean, David, do you want to talk about... -No, that's cool. Go for it. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
Right, I suppose you could say it's a sort of | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
-Countryfile meets Bake Off. -OK. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
Yeah, with a bit of The One Show thrown in just in case. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
-Absolutely, yes. -We're like, no-one's ever actually done this before. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
No, I'm not... I'm not surprised. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:15 | |
'With Anna due to formally announce Britain's Tastiest Village | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
'next week, they know that after the unavoidable loss of | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
'Clare Balding, this is their chance to save the show and change the | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
'face of Sunday evening television, for either better or worse.' | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
And then it's like, well, which is better? | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
-Your school kids' sandwiches in Sandwich... -Yes. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
-Or Alan's old people's Eccles cakes in Eccles? -Yes. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
But Sandwich is a town. It isn't a village. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
Yeah, but for us, it's sort of a village. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
Obviously... Thanks. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
-Obviously, David's still finalising the details. -Yes, obviously. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
But we just thought, we know it's a long shot, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
-but this is a big show for us. -No, I don't want this. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
-Oh. But... -I don't want it. -OK. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
So, yes, so we just found ourselves thinking, "I wonder if there's any | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
"way in the world we might be able to get Carol Vorderman interested." | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
-Yeah. -OK. -You know, cos to have Carol Vorderman on the BBC, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
in prime-time, finally. That would... | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
The fact is we'd love you to do this show, Carol. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
I mean, I'm not going to let myself think about it. I can't... | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
-We also think it would be really great for you. -Mm, yes. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
I mean, for me, it's like, me, in a restaurant, with Carol Vorderman. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
I'm like, "Guys, please, whatever happens, it's enough. It's enough." | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
-Nigel. -Hi. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
'Meanwhile, back in W1A, Mebyon Kernow bigwig | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
'and Cornish eminence grise Nigel Trescott has arrived | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
'at New Broadcasting House in order to be taken seriously.' | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
You name me one Cornish Newsreader or presenter or whatever... | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
'In his time with Mebyon Kernow, Nigel has tasted defeat | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
'in no less than seven separate Cornish by-elections, | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
'so if anyone knows what he's talking about, it's him.' | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
..hardly turn on your TV nowadays without | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
-some bloody Scottish person yacking on. -Yes. -Usually women. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
'If Ian's job is to make him feel he's being listened to, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
'the initial challenge is to find somewhere in the building | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
-'where fewer people can hear him.' -..Big Hairy Geordies. -Yes. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
You got gays in just about every conceivable position imaginable, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
-you don't know where to look. -Hang on a minute. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
No, that's perfectly fine, Ian, absolutely fine. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
I'm sorry, I'm going to have to... | 0:17:06 | 0:17:07 | |
I got at least one son who's a gay already | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
and the other one is thinking about it. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
Well, I mean, just see what happens in here. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
OPERA ARIA PLAYS | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
Right, no, that... That's something else. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
-First of all, I'm not stupid, OK? -Yeah. -Well, exactly. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
I've been in the industry a long time. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
-Obviously, yes. -Oh, yeah, ages. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
'Meanwhile, in the restaurant with Carol Vorderman, things have | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
'now moved beyond salad to the nitty gritty phase of the lunch.' | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
Someone's dropped out, haven't they? I'm guessing it's Clare Balding. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
It usually is, at the moment. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
-Well, that's... -That's OK. But before we go any further... | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
-Right, yes. -Alan Titchmarsh... -Yes. -He's actually attached? | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
-Well, he... It's... -Pretty much, yeah. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
Well, though I think what we... | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
I'm not drinking this coffee, it's vile. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
-Is he attached or not? -Well, he... Yes, he is. Yes. Basically. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
-He is? -Yes. -Pretty much. Yeah. -Right. OK. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
I have to tell you, Alan's very excited about working with you. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
HE'S excited? The two of you together. I mean, hot! It's downright dangerous. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
Actually, could he shut up? | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
-Yes, could you shut up, please, David? -Absolutely. Yep. -Yes. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
I think the first thing to say is, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:15 | |
I'm so glad you've taken the trouble to come in to see us today. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
No, you're not. Don't be stupid. I'm a pain in the ass, I know I am. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
Well, it's very much my arse that... | 0:18:21 | 0:18:22 | |
You know, I mean you've come to the right... | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
I've come to the right ass? | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
'Back at New Broadcasting House, Ian has finally taken up | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
'a position with Nigel Trescott.' | 0:18:29 | 0:18:30 | |
The point is, it's absolutely there for you to be a pain in. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
Right, so how do we go on from here? | 0:18:33 | 0:18:34 | |
Well, no, I hear what you're saying, Nigel. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
I'm going to make it my business to get on top of this. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
Yeah, you say that... | 0:18:38 | 0:18:39 | |
And I'm going to come back to you with some sort of response. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
Yeah, you did the Olympics, didn't you? | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
Well, I wouldn't say I personally... | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
How many Cornish athletes in the Olympics? | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
That's a rhetorical question. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:49 | |
-How many? -Sorry, I thought it was a rhetori... | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
-Four. -Four. -Yes. -Right. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:55 | |
-They all lost. -Ah. -Every single one of the buggers. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
Right, well, that wasn't really my area. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
Ah... Course it didn't. Cornwall never bloody is, is it? | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
'Eight o'clock on another morning. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
'Ian has now been in his new job for nearly two weeks.' | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
-Morning. -Hi. -Forward with Fletcher, eh? -Yes. Hi. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
'With his honeymoon period at last behind him, today is a big day. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
'This morning sees the first ever meeting of the Way Ahead Task Force, | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
'with Ian in the chair.' | 0:19:31 | 0:19:32 | |
-Glad I caught you, actually. -Oh, right? | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
For what it's worth, I think you've put together a really rather | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
-wonderful team. -I hope so. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
-And on that subject... I usually go saddle next. -Yes, thank you. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
On that subject, I was going to forward you an e-mail from | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
Tony, but then I thought, | 0:19:44 | 0:19:45 | |
"No, sod it. It's good news. I'll tell him myself." | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
-Good news? -Rather fabulous news, actually. -Right. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
-You going up, eventually? -Yes. -Good-oh. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
No, I think we're announcing it at lunch time or something | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
but we may have to find one more chair | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
around the Way Ahead table, if that's all right with you? | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
-One more chair? -That's if we can find a room with any chairs at all. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
We should be so lucky! | 0:20:04 | 0:20:05 | |
-I've booked Frankie Howerd. -Oh, brilliant. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
-One more chair? -Yes. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:08 | |
'Sixth floor.' | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
-So, basically, you know what Tony's like? -Well, still no, actually. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
-He has these very clear ideas and he acts on them. -Right, yes. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
-And his current thinking is 'Brand BBC'. -Yes. Is it? | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
Yep, so his thinking is, | 0:20:20 | 0:20:21 | |
-we've already got the guy who did the Olympics. Tick. -Right. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
And London Twenty Twelve was about the most successful brand | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
-in the history of brands. -Where is this going? | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
So why don't we find out who did that and let's get them too? Tick. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
Sorry, sorry, Simon, so what are you actually telling me? | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
Oh, you've already got Fred Astaire. What do you do? | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
You get Ginger Rogers. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:38 | |
No, but OK, here's the thing with BBC Four OK... No, shut up. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
The thing with BBC Four is it's like a Marmite channel, OK? | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
And the thing with Marmite is it's like no-one eats that shit, OK? | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
No, Fran. OK, don't care. Shut up. Got to go. OK. OK. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:49 | |
Ian, Hey! | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
-You know Siobhan, of course. -This is going to be so fun. -Brilliant. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:57 | |
'For Ian, the first ever Way Ahead meeting is a key opportunity | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
'to consolidate whatever authority he might have in his new | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
'job as well to think some Big Thoughts.' | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
-Will. Can you do something for me? -Yeah, sure. Yeah, cool. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
If you've got a minute, would you be able to go down and get me | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
-a cappuccino? -Cool, yeah. -You know, a proper one from downstairs? | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
-Yeah, no, a latte. -No, a cappuccino. -OK, yeah. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
And then if you could bring it in to me in the meeting... | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
-Right. What, so... -No, it's fine, just, you know, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
-just knock and walk in. That's all. You don't need to say anything. -OK. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
-Thanks, Will. That'd be really great. -Just come in? -Yes. -Cool. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
I'll settle up with you afterwards, obviously. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
-Yeah, no worries. -Great. -A cappuccino. -Yes. -OK, cool. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
Well, first of all, welcome, everybody, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
and welcome to the first ever Way Ahead Task Force Group. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
-Yay. -I suppose I could say, really, welcome to the future. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
-Amen. -Amen. -Amen. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:48 | |
Guys, we are so going to kill here. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
'Of the many meetings he's been to in his first two weeks at the BBC, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
'this is one where Ian finally has the chance to put | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
'the value of Values literally on the agenda.' | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
There's one word that I want us to take with us on the journey | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
and to set the term for everything we do. That word is confidence. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
-Confidence. -Brilliant. -Sure. -Christ. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
There are going to be challenges ahead, of course there are, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
but we are fortunate enough to be sitting at the centre | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
of the greatest broadcasting organisation, | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
arguably one of the greatest ideas in the world. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
-# BBC, BBC... # -Yes, exactly. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
MOBILE PHONE BUZZES | 0:22:18 | 0:22:19 | |
And... and as we embark on this journey, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
I feel it's a good time to remind ourselves of that. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
-Fuck! -OK, good. And in the spirit of... | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
COW MOOS | 0:22:26 | 0:22:27 | |
And in the spirit of thinking Big Thoughts, I just wanted to outline | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
in broad strokes what I think are some of the... | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
MOBILE HUMS | 0:22:32 | 0:22:33 | |
-Ah. OK. -Yes, just some of the key... -Ah, righty-ho. -Right, some of the... | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
MOBILES MOO AND BUZZ | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
-Sorry, Ian. Got to do this. -Right. -Brilliant. -OK, here we go. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:43 | |
-TV: -..BBC's nightly regional news programme, Spotlight South West, | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
since the mid '90s, but despite repeated attempts, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
Sally Wingate has never made the step up to national bulletins. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
I'll be back on Monday with Nick, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
and hopefully more on how those badgers are getting on. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
Now she says she believes that could be down to the corporation's | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
institutional anti-West Country bias. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
-What? -Bollocks. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:06 | |
I mean, nothing's ever said but it's almost as if the accent alone | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
is enough, which when you think about it is doubly unfair because | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
I've never had a West Country accent and I'm not actually from Cornwall. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
So do you feel you've been discriminated against? | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
Yes. I suppose I do feel that. Yes. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
Mebyon Kernow's Nigel Trescott says there's nothing | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
about Sally Wingate's story that surprises him. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
There's nothing wrong with being Cornish. It's not something to be ashamed of. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
-Oh, right. Here we go. -Alistair. What the fuck? | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
..there's nothing wrong being a woman either. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
Fact is, if you're a woman, from Cornwall, and you work for the BBC... | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
Yeah, OK. Thank you. Shut up. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:38 | |
..you might as well pack up and go home. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
-No, bollocks, Alistair. I'm coming down. -Right. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
This is our own. This is the BBC News Channel, for fuck's sake. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
Not Kamikaze fucking Corner. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:47 | |
-Right. OK. -Bummer. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
So, that's happened. Brilliant. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
-Hi, Will. -But, yeah, hey, yeah. -You OK? -Yeah, cool. So, yeah... | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
-I'm just going down to that cafe on the ground floor. -OK. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
-I was thinking, if you wanted anything... -Oh, right. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
I'm going to get Ian Fletcher a cappuccino. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
No, I don't think so, really. No. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
-OK. -I'm good, thank you. -OK, cool. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
-But thank you. -Yeah, no worries. Cool. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
-Actually, do you know what? -Yeah, hi. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
-I will have a skinny latte. -Cool. Yeah. Cappuccino. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
-No, a latte. -Yeah, cool, yeah. -If you're sure. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
Yeah, cool. Yeah. A latte. Yeah, cool. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
So, guys, so here's the thing with this. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
So what you're looking at here is a major Brand Message Dropout. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
-What? -Yes, OK. Thanks, Siobhan. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:41 | |
No, all I'm just saying is you don't triage this thing now, | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
-you're so going to be up to your ass in alligators here. -Yes, thank you. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
'Meanwhile back in Frankie Howerd, | 0:24:47 | 0:24:48 | |
'such is the gravity of the situation that they've now | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
'been joined by Head of Output Anna Rampton, which means things | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
'have got very serious indeed. There's already been | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
'an e-mail from BBC Director General Lord Tony Hall asking for | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
'clarification on the corporation's handling | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
'of the Sally Wingate issue.' | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
-What we need here is a strategy. -Yes, exactly, yes. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
-Brilliant. So, Ian, what's your thinking? -Well... | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
Where's your gut on this? | 0:25:09 | 0:25:10 | |
I mean, with strategy, I suppose I'm mindful that that's | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
-actually your area, Simon. -Oh, now, pish. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
-Don't want to tread on anyone's... -No, nonsense. Tell us what to do. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
-KNOCK AT DOOR -I mean, Anna, obviously Programmes isn't my area. -No. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
Will, yes. So forgive me, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
-I just want to put this out there for discussion. -Yes. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
Yes, Will, it's fine. Come in. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:26 | |
Thanks, Will. That's great. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
-It's cappuccino. -Yes, great. -Yeah, OK. -Thanks. -Yeah. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
-Well, or I mean... -No, it's cool. Crap. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
Great, so, yes. No, Anna, I was just thinking, is there something | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
we might be able to find for Sally Wingate that might actually... | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
-Right, yes. Good. -Flog It! -No. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:42 | |
-Snog, Marry, Avoid. -Well, yes, or... -I so love that show. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
Yes, or I don't know, some sort of Bake Off... | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
-Yes, good, very strong. -Spring Watch. -Well, now... -Good. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
Badgers in Cornwall. There's all your problems solved in one go. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
-OK, OK, OK, Loose Women. -Yes, so that's an ITV show. -Perfect. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
I mean, Anna, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:57 | |
might it be worth thinking about Britain's Tastiest Village? | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
-No. -Now you're talking. -I'm sorry. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:01 | |
I mean, if it's a new show we've got coming through anyway... | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
The fact is, Village is appointment to view television. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
-But I mean, might it be worth considering for a moment? -No. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
-No, OK, right. -No, it's not. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
OK, so we can be confident about that and take that | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
-straight off the list of possible solutions to worry about. -Yes. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
-So that's all good. -Cool. -And so we move on. -Brilliant. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
OK, so... Now back to Preferences. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
-OK. -No, Preferences. -Oh, OK. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
Keyboard. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
Yep. Shortcuts. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
-Yeah. Now, Services. -Right. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
And there you go, Capture Full Screen. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
Cool. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:38 | |
Yeah, and you can just assign whatever you like. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
Oh, right. No, OK, I see. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
-That is so neat. -Yeah. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
I mean, this is such bad luck for you, this, honestly. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
Well, I mean... For me? | 0:27:02 | 0:27:03 | |
You must be thinking, "I've barely got my feet under my desk." | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
I mean, haven't got a desk to put any feet under yet. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
No, I know. Yes, brilliant! Outrageous. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
'But broadcasting is a world lived in real-time. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
'And whatever that means, by the end of the day, events have | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
'already been overtaken by other events.' | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
Yes, right, cos I'm not being funny or anything, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
but it's genocide in the Press Office and not in a good way. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
'There's now been an e-mail from Lord Chris Patten, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
'Chair of the BBC Trust, asking for an urgent response | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
'to Director General Lord Tony Hall's earlier e-mail | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
'seeking clarification on the BBC's treatment of Sally Wingate.' | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
..and she's come up with this frankly rather brilliant idea. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
I don't know about brilliant, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:39 | |
but I don't mind saying I'm quite pleased with it. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
-Hold on to your hat. -Woman's Hour. -Woman's Hour? | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
-I know. -Right. -It's joyous. -I've got you on tomorrow, with Jenni Murray. -Got me on? | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
-Tony actually sent me a smiley face. -Did he? | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
Cos when you think about this, it is actually the perfect forum. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
-Wait a minute... -I took a bit of a flier with it. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
-Well, yes! -I know Helen, the producer. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
I know some people find her a bit frightening, | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
but I personally don't take any nonsense from her and I can't speak | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
for her, obviously, but I think she respects me for that. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
-Brilliant. -What about asking me though? -Asking you? -Yes. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
-No, they don't need to, Ian. I said yes on your behalf. -Right. I see. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
I hope that's all right. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
Yes. No, that's fine. But what am I actually saying? | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
Right, yes. Very good. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:13 | |
I'm not being funny, but this is serious. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
-I know. -We're dealing with what's in front of us. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
This is in front of me. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:18 | |
We are in emergency mode here. I've got you Jenni Murray. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
You'll have time to think about what you want to say on the train up | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
-and I'll be there to help with that. -The train up where? | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
All you need to do right now is decide whether you want to go | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
up tonight, or catch the early train in the morning. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
-Manchester? -Gah, no, bad luck. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
Ian, welcome to Woman's Hour. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:38 | |
It's very good to be here, Jenni. Thank you. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
So I'm standing there and I'm getting, like, a text | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
and I look down and it's, like, Clare Balding. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
So, that's Dame Clare Balding, OK. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
-But Carol's in this morning. -I know. It's a nightmare. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
-I'm sorry, Siobhan, you can't do this. -De nada. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
No, do you know what? I don't want a bloody coffee, thanks. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
-No, she doesn't want that. -No. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:55 | |
Enjoy the, you know, enjoy your water. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
I'm not being funny or anything, | 0:28:57 | 0:28:58 | |
but I think we might have a bit of a situation on our hands here. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 |