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Insurance fraud in the UK has hit epidemic levels. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
It's costing us over £2 billion every year. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
That's almost £6 million every day. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
Deliberate crashes, bogus personal injuries, | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
even phantom pets. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
The fraudsters are risking more and more to make a quick killing | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
and every year, it's adding over £50 to your insurance bill. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
But insurers are fighting back, | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
exposing 15 fake claims every hour, | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
armed with covert surveillance systems... | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
Subject out the vehicle. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
..sophisticated data analysis techniques... | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
..and a highly skilled dedicated police unit. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
Police! Don't move. Stay where you are. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
They're catching the criminals red-handed. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
Just don't lie to us. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:50 | |
All those con men, scammers and cheats on the fiddle are now | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
caught in the act and claimed and shamed. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
Coming up, a fake insurance company that targets the elderly... | 0:01:06 | 0:01:11 | |
..undercover filming lands a conman in the sin bin... | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
A further twist was that it was reported that he was | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
suffering from post-traumatic stress syndrome. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
..and IFED carries out a raid on a suspect. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
You're never sure, exactly, what you're going to find | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
until you actually go through that door. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
Where would we be without a good bit of TV? | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
We're a nation addicted to our set-top boxes and many of us | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
rely on product insurance to protect us if anything goes wrong. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
So, it's a good job there are people like Jonathan Stockting, | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
who was determined to make sure none of us missed out | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
on the shows we loved. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:05 | |
He ran a Swansea-based company that came under | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
the remit of Trading Standards' Rhys Harris. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
The company was selling | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
a service package, maintenance package, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
sometimes it was called insurance, but, basically, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
it was a product that, if you had a Sky system and it broke down, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
they claimed that they would come out and fix it between two and six hours. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:29 | |
Sounds like a great idea, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
a service that will have you back up and running, or rather lounging, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
within six hours, except, guess what? | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
Yep, it didn't exist. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
The company operated by cold calling consumers and the only information | 0:02:42 | 0:02:47 | |
they had when they would cold call them is the consumer's name, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
address and also their telephone number. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
Despite the fact they had so little information on the customers, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
their sales patter was pretty convincing. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
They gave the impression that they were Sky, they were phoning from Sky. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
But it was a total fabrication. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
None of the companies that the bogus insurance company | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
pretended to represent had anything to do with the scam. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
Instead of duping insurance companies with fraudulent claims, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
Stockting had taken it to the next level by setting up | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
a fake insurance company of his own that preyed on innocent people. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
The victims were carefully targeted with fraudsters deliberately calling | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
during the day to catch elderly and vulnerable people at home. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
Some of the calls were very distressing to us listening, | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
but it was more distressing listening to the consumer reacting | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
to the way that they've been treated. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
SALES PERSON: Sorry? | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
Yes? | 0:04:01 | 0:04:02 | |
Right... | 0:04:04 | 0:04:05 | |
You'd hear these consumers being quite fast in not wanting to | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
give their card details over the phone, however, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
they would then eventually fold and give their card details over | 0:04:21 | 0:04:26 | |
to these sales staff who quite cunningly got it out of them. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
With such an aggressive sales technique, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
many people were confused, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:52 | |
hounded and even intimidated into buying the fake insurance. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
Their general tactic was to bully, so if they could get | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
someone elderly on the phone, they would push and push. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
In some cases, it was quite disgusting the way the sales staff | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
would actually speak to these elderly and vulnerable consumers. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
-SALES PERSON: -Oh, my...! | 0:05:26 | 0:05:27 | |
A team of 20 scammers worked at the bogus insurance call centre. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
They showed no mercy to their victims, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
bullying people into handing over their money. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
It was fraud on an industrial scale. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
Among the 7,500 customers targeted by the group was Carol Oatey. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:01 | |
Well, I was cold called out of the blue. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
I think it went along the lines of, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
"We noticed that your satellite insurance has expired," | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
though how they would know that, I don't know, | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
I think that's just an opening line. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
PHONE RINGS 'And told me how | 0:06:16 | 0:06:17 | |
'expensive it would be...' Hello? | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
'..to call an engineer out without satellite insurance.' | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
And I said, "Yes, OK." | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
And gave them my bank details! | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
The fraudsters persuaded their victims to sign up to | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
a yearly payment of between £70 and £100, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
with the promise that their satellite box would be covered 24/7. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
I mean, £80 might not seem like a lot of money to some people, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
but when you're a pensioner, it is a lot of money. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:48 | |
In order to appear genuine, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:51 | |
the company sent out paperwork to their victims. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
It was at this point that Carol realised something was wrong. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
I went to file the paperwork and realised that | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
I already had perfectly good insurance that hadn't expired. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:06 | |
I don't think I've ever felt so embarrassed in my life, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
really, to think that I could have been taken in, but it really | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
was a horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach that I'd been conned. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:19 | |
Sadly, Carol wasn't the only one. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
In a two-year period, the callous fake insurance crew | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
netted half a million pounds. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
Anybody who thinks that conning the elderly | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
into giving away their money is a good way of earning a living | 0:07:31 | 0:07:36 | |
should think again. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:37 | |
But the net was closing in. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
Unbeknownst to the scammers, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:43 | |
victims had alerted Swansea Trading Standards. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
They started to investigate | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
and identified the three men behind the company - | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
Paul Delamare, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
Jordan Diment | 0:07:53 | 0:07:54 | |
and the boss, Jonathan Stockting. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
Evidence of organised criminal fraud mounted as more | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
and more victims came forward, and Swansea Trading Standards | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
decided it was time to pay the call centre a visit. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
We struggled to get through a locked door. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
Once we got in through that door, sales staff went | 0:08:11 | 0:08:16 | |
and rubbed their name off a board. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
Some of the staff tried evading us going down the back stairs, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
and then, when we were there, the fire alarm went off. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
I went to see the security guard in charge of the building | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
and he basically told us | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
someone had set a false alarm off on the floor below us. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
Once in the property, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:33 | |
Trading Standards wanted to get to the hub of the fraudulent | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
activity and needed to access the computers kept behind locked doors. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
It took a locksmith three hours to break in. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
We got into the room, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
our computer forensic examiner looked at the computers | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
and came back to us at a later date after we'd left the premises | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
and told us that someone had remotely accessed that computer and deleted | 0:08:52 | 0:08:58 | |
everything and tried to download something called Evidence Eliminator. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
The operation had been stopped in its tracks. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
It was the last Trading Standards would hear from them...for a while. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
Coming up, the fraudsters restart their fake insurance company again, | 0:09:08 | 0:09:13 | |
but Trading Standards decide to shut them down once and for all. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:18 | |
This time we done a faster entry warrant where we took | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
the police on entry. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
Everybody was arrested where they were sat. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
It's thought that as many as one in four people | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
have suffered a personal injury, | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
a figure that won't come as a surprise to the insurance industry, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
which is seeing a dramatic increase in these types of claims. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
More than a million of these claims come from workplace accidents | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
like the one that David Ribchester suffered in February 2006. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
DCI Dave Wood, who heads up | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
the Insurance Fraud Enforcement Department, worked on the case. | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
Mr Ribchester reported to his insurance company that he'd | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
suffered an accident at work. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
He said he was up a set of ladders that collapsed underneath him... | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
..and as a result of the fall, he's injured both his wrists | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
when he hit the ground and as a result of that accident, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
he suffered life-changing injuries. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
According to David, the ladder had fallen on both of his wrists, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
which, he claimed, left him unable to do even the most basic tasks. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
One was driving a car, two was playing his favourite sport, rugby, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:35 | |
and lastly, and perhaps most important of all, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
he couldn't pick up his small daughter... | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
and this was the worst thing for him, so he told us. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
But David's injuries weren't just physical, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
as John Beadle from insurers RSA explains. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
A further twist was that it was reported that he was suffering from | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
post-traumatic stress syndrome as a result of the accident. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:58 | |
With such serious physical and emotional damage, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
David's claim stacked up to a huge sum. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
He claimed ultimately for £900,000 or thereabouts | 0:11:05 | 0:11:10 | |
in terms of compensation to compensate for his loss of earnings, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:16 | |
and for the care that he would need going forward in his life. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
It was a massive compensation bill, one which would have taken care of | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
the 31-year-old for the rest of his life. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
This case is one of the biggest single instances that I've | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
investigated in its operation so far. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
Almost £1 million going to one person, for him, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
would almost be like a lottery win. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
INDISTINCT CHATTERING | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
As with any large insurance claim, the insurers looked into it | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
thoroughly and they didn't like what they saw. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
There came a point of time | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
when we began to doubt the truth around the extent | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
of Mr Ribchester's alleged injuries and incapacity, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:59 | |
and so we began to investigate and, as part of that investigation, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:04 | |
we deployed some surveillance. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
All seemed fine at first, but then they noticed something which | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
blew his claim out of the water. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
It showed a person going normally about their daily life | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
and there wasn't any apparent incapacity or injury that | 0:12:18 | 0:12:23 | |
prevented him leading a normal life. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
During the course of the surveillance, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
Mr Ribchester was seen driving his car. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
He told his insurers he couldn't drive a car. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
He was also seen shopping in a supermarket. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
Again, he told his insurers he couldn't carry out that task. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
On Mr Ribchester's birthday in July 2009, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
he was actually filmed hosting a barbecue at his home address, | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
during which he erected some garden furniture, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
he greeted guests with a firm handshake of his right hand. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
He was seen flipping burgers on the actual barbecue itself | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
and also, several times, picking up his young daughter | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
with his supposedly severely injured right hand. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
The footage proved that David was lying about his injuries | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
in order to inflate the size of his claim, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
but the surveillance didn't stop there, and what the police saw next | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
revealed the shocking extent of his fraud. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
The biggest nail in Mr Ribchester's coffin was actually | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
the surveillance footage of him playing rugby at his local club, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
so there he is, grabbing the ball, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
gripping it tightly, fending off tackles, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
charging along the grass turf, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:35 | |
things that he said he couldn't do, would never be able to do for | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
the rest of his days, clearly captured on surveillance footage, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
looking in quite fine fettle running across the rugby pitch. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
That surveillance footage was, at our request, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
shown to the medical experts who, as a result, said that, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:55 | |
in their opinion, that he was grossly exaggerating or making | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
up the level of injury or incapacity that he was suffering from. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:04 | |
Clearly, David was trying it on. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
Armed with a wealth of footage, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
the insurers decided to tackle the fraud | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
and pass the case to the police. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
IFED detectives arrested Mr Ribchester at his home address | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
in the northeast of England and some months later, he appeared at | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
the Old Bailey, where he was charged with fraud by false representation. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
The judge in fact said that this man was greedy | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
and he also went on to say that, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:31 | |
as a result of greedy men like Mr Ribchester, | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
that other genuine claimants could sometimes | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
be put under scrutiny as a result of his selfish actions. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
David Ribchester's foul play had well and truly | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
landed him in the sin bin. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
For exaggerating his claim, the penalty was eight months. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
During IFED's operation, we'd seemed to come across two different | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
types of fraudsters in this insurance fraud arena. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
One would be the organised criminals, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
the gangsters that do it for a living, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
and the other lot I would describe as greedy people that see | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
an opportunity, potentially a meal ticket or a lottery win, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
like Mr Ribchester. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
Ironically, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:09 | |
if Mr Ribchester had been honest about the extent of his injuries, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
he would have been legally entitled to about £250,000 compensation. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
But because he lied, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
the whole of his claim was thrown out and he was left with no money, | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
a prison sentence and a criminal record. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
Still to come, a rude driver's insurance claim hits the skids | 0:15:31 | 0:15:36 | |
thanks to CCTV evidence... | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
There's no evidence of a slow joining of traffic, and | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
as far as the creeping along goes, I'll let you be the judge of that. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
..and victims of the fake insurance company see justice served. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
And how dare they...how dare they do that to the elderly! | 0:15:50 | 0:15:55 | |
The Insurance Fraud Enforcement Department, or IFED for short, | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
is an insurance scammer's worst nightmare. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
There is a dedicated 40-strong unit that work 24/7 | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
hunting down insurance fraudsters. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
The team were set up over two years ago to crack down on | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
insurance crime in the UK. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
Is there anything here that shouldn't be here... | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
that we're going to find? | 0:16:21 | 0:16:22 | |
In that time, it's made over 450 arrests | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
and seen over 200 prosecutions. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
If it's a fraud and it's in insurance, then it may well | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
come to IFED's attention and IFED will take the necessary action. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
Police officers! Can you come to the door, please? | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
Today, DS Mark Forster and his IFED team are on their way to arrest | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
a suspect in what they believe is a case of insurance fraud. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
It all started when the suspect racked up so many parking fines | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
that bailiffs impounded their car. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
She subsequently reported to police that her car had been stolen | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
and also made a claim to the insurance company | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
in relation to the theft of that vehicle. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
Mark has deliberately organised an early-morning raid | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
so there's more chance of catching the suspect at home. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
And he's well aware of the challenges that | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
his team could face when they go in to make the arrest. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
You're never sure exactly what's behind a door. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
You can do your intelligence checks to give you a good indication | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
of what you're going to find and who you're going to find, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
but until you actually go through that door, you're never sure. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
-RADIO: -4-1-0... | 0:17:33 | 0:17:34 | |
Yeah, can you show us on the scene, please? Car 10-8-4. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
They arrive at the suspect's address and get into position. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
The little one. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:42 | |
Oh, right, OK. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:43 | |
Mark's hoping that the early start means the suspect is | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
more likely to be at home. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
-Good morning. -'And they are.' | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
Police. I'd just like to speak to you inside, please. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
-Come in. -Yeah? Thanks very much. -Thank you. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
INDISTINCT CHATTER INSIDE | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
Just one of my colleagues come in as well. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
The cameras stay outside. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
At five minutes past seven, I'm arresting you on suspicion of | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
committing fraud by false representation. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
You don't have to say anything, but it may harm your defence if you do | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
Anything you do say may be given in evidence. Do you understand? | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
With the arrest made, the operation has got off to a good start. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:26 | |
I don't think she was expecting us at all. She was quite surprised. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
My colleague, when he arrested her, she had no idea what it was about. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
But the arrest is only the beginning. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
The success of the operation relies on finding evidence | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
of the alleged fraud. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
IFED are searching for paperwork that relates to the vehicle. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
Luckily, the suspect is proving to be co-operative. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
We've asked her...basically, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
so we don't have to go through the whole house, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
where she keeps all her documents, correspondence, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
and she's indicated to us, in her bedroom. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
And that's just where they find potential evidence. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
This is some of the evidence that we've seized from the property, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
from the bedroom of the lady we've arrested this morning. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
Unusually for the IFED team, the potential evidence in this case | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
is paper-based and doesn't involve phones or computers. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
Most IFED raids last several hours, but, in this case, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
Mark's thankful that it's been relatively straightforward. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
Very happy. It's all gone very smoothly. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
We're, you know, in and out of the address within, sort of, 45 minutes. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
She's now on her way back to the City of London, where she'll be | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
interviewed in relation to the fraud that we believe that she's committed. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
Mark's pleased with how the day has gone. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
The arrest has been made, potential evidence has been collected | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
and the investigation can now move on to the next stage. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
There's nothing more frustrating than coming home from | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
a hard day's work, turning on the TV and it's broken. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:05 | |
But don't worry - if you've got insurance on it, you'll be sorted. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
Well, not if you're one of the 7,500 people who were cold called | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
and bullied into buying a bogus maintenance package by | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
Jonathan Stockting and his crew, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
who'd set up a fake insurance company. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
The group targeted elderly and vulnerable people | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
with insurance deals that they didn't want, need or, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
in some cases, already had. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
I mean, £80 might not seem like a lot of money to some people, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
but when you're a pensioner, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
it is a lot of money. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
After a mountain of complaints at Swansea Trading Standards, | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
the team paid the phony operation a visit. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
We got into the room, our computer forensic examiner | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
looked at the computers and told us that someone had | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
remotely accessed that computer and deleted everything. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:05 | |
With the fake insurance company closed, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
Trading Standards thought that would be the end of it, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
but it wasn't long before the complaints started to pour in again. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
It appeared that the company was still operating. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
And at this point, we decided the only thing we could do | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
was to raid the company again. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
'And this time we done the faster entry warrant, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
'where we took the police.' | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
On entry, everybody was arrested where they were sat, | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
not allowing anybody to interfere with | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
any of the evidence that we were going to gather. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
This was the largest operation that Swansea had been a part of. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
It involved 50 police officers, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
along with various teams from the council. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
Despite this, the scammers had shredded all paper evidence, | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
but the key to the crime was their calls. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
We found call recordings, but those calls certainly helped us | 0:22:03 | 0:22:08 | |
a great deal with our investigation. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
What was perhaps more shocking was that this wasn't just | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
a few fraudsters, but a team of around 20, all knowing that, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:44 | |
every day, every call was conning an elderly person out of money. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
And you had a big sales floor which was populated by all these staff | 0:22:50 | 0:22:55 | |
and, probably, they were looking at up to 20 staff | 0:22:55 | 0:23:00 | |
at some point in the business, | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
and everybody in that business had to be aware of what was going on | 0:23:02 | 0:23:07 | |
and was implicit in it, and it was all linked and all very loyal. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
The audio proved to be the killer piece of evidence that | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
allowed the council to build a case against the scammers. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
They took Jonathan Stockting and 16 members of his team to court. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
It was the culmination of a two-year investigation into a scam | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
that had covered most of Wales and parts of England, | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
dialling in an estimated £500,000. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
The weight of evidence against them meant that the three main players | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
pleaded guilty to a conspiracy to defraud. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
Jonathan Stockting and Paul Delamare | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
both got sentences of four years | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
and Jordan Diment was given three-and-a-half years. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
In all, the judge handed down jail terms totalling | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
almost 30 years to 14 people involved in the scam. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
When they were sentenced, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
we felt that this was justice for all those consumers who | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
we either had to speak to or listen to | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
and the way in which they'd been treated, it wasn't really | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
about how much that we felt, it was justice had been served for them. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
People like Carol, who was a victim of the fraud. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
It's like mugging, isn't it? It's mugging over the phone, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
and you feel just as violated | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
as if they'd hit you on the back of the neck. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
And how dare they... | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
how dare they do that to the elderly! | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
Buses are great. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
Well, if you haven't got a car and, let's be honest, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
when you're behind the wheel, the last thing you want to see is this. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
Being stuck behind a slow-moving bus can be frustrating. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
But for one driver, he thought it was well behind him, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
until it, allegedly, collided with him. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
Lee Ingram of FirstGroup dealt with the incident. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
When the other vehicle driver has submitted his claim, | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
he has stated that he was creeping forward | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
and the bus has just hit him straight in the back of the car | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
and damaged the side of his car at the same time. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
But when FirstGroup asked for the bus driver's version of events, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
he had a completely different take on it. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
The bus driver in this case clearly says that he was passing | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
the third-party vehicle, when the third party has given him the V-sign | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
and then pulled across straight in front of the bus, leaving him | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
no opportunity to avoid a collision. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
The two versions didn't add up. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
It was the claimant's word against the bus driver's, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
so Lee Ingram turned to his fail-safe back up - CCTV. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
The footage clearly supports the bus driver's account. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
Keep your eye on the red car on the left. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
The first thing you noticed from the footage is that | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
the third party has clearly made up a set of circumstances to | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
tell his solicitor in order to pursue his claim. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
There's no evidence of a slow joining of traffic, and | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
as far as the creeping along goes, I'll let you be the judge of that. | 0:25:56 | 0:26:00 | |
The red car can be seen driving at a normal speed, | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
but from the camera on the side of the bus, | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
the car pulls in front of it, cutting it up | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
and clipping it on the front. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
CCTV footage is very important in circumstances such as this. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
The footage shows the car driver wasn't telling the truth, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
but it also reveals something else as well. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
To add further insult, the driver just did that! | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
Oh, hang on a minute! What was that? | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
Two fingers? | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
Oh, no, it's just the one. Well, that's a bit rude! | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
There doesn't really seem to be any logical reason as to why | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
the other party should be so angry towards the bus driver. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
I know there are situations where some people | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
just do not like buses getting in front of them in traffic. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
I think this is a particular case where the other driver has | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
just decided to not let the bus through | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
and has almost stuck his fingers up in a V-sign to say, | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
"No way, mate! You're not coming past me!" | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
and then decided to go for it in front of the bus. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
The claimant in this instance is clearly used to getting his own way. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
On this occasion, he has tried to muscle in on a 12-ton vehicle, | 0:27:07 | 0:27:11 | |
which might not have been the wisest of moves(!) | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
And his offensive behaviour didn't stop there. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
After the accident, the third party was very abusive towards | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
the bus driver, constantly using foul language. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
He claimed to have a sore neck | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
and yet refused to have an ambulance called for him. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
Despite this, he later submitted a claim for multiple personal | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
injuries but, surprisingly, nothing for damage to the car, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:36 | |
because, as the CCTV showed, there was none. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
His motivation seemed to be personal gain. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
He was heard to say that he was intending to get a new car | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
out of this incident. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
The only actual damage was a small scratch to the side of the bus. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
The CCTV proved that the claimant wasn't owed compensation | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
because he'd never actually been injured. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
In fact, it showed that he owed them for the damage to the bus. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
The claimant did not receive any compensation | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
arising from this incident. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
We did however recover the £34.50 cost of repairing our vehicle. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
More proof that it's better to keep | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
both hands firmly on the wheel when driving. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 |