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We're crossing the country

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on the hunt for Britain's worst building disasters.

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We knew that we'd paid him £22,500 of our money and he was not going to finish that loft conversion for us.

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Every day, innocent people are being lured in by cowboy builder tricks

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and the next victim could be you.

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Then he said, "Cos we know you, this is what I'm prepared to do for you, no extra charge."

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And he laid it all out. It looked good. I thought, "Yeah, brilliant!"

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We've got a terrific team of professionals on hand to put an end to these bad builder bodges.

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Look up.

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-Wow!

-Oh...

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Oh, how big is that?

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Have no fear though, if you arm yourself with my hints,

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tips and advice, that should prevent you falling into the Cowboy Trap.

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We're in Plymouth to hear one big story with a loud warning,

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never to pay your builder before his work is done.

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Today's family hit a cash crisis when their bungling builder wrecked their loft and left them in dreadful debt.

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Month by month, we're paying legal fees

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and still paying off for the emergency and remedial works.

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Obviously, we have a big mortgage and it just shouldn't be like that.

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This loft conversion was a washout.

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There was water pouring through the roof and the bill for emergency builders went sky high.

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It's money and not having the money to do things

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does tend to cause arguments, and it upsets everyone

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and, yeah, it's been a strain.

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Today's Cowboy Trap comes from a city with a long naval tradition, Plymouth.

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We're here to meet the Turner family.

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They live in this three-bedroomed, end-terrace house.

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Sam is a school administrator and ex-Navy man Roly is a deputy catering manager.

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The couple have two teenage daughters, Amie, 16, and Beth, 14.

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Mum, Sam, loves their house and imagines living here for many years to come.

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This property is ideal for a lovely family home with two young daughters.

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We've lived here for some years now and we envisage living here for

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at least 10, 15, 20-plus years in the future, because it would be so lovely with more space.

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Cos the girls, obviously, are getting older and we wanted

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to give them an extra bathroom and a bit more living space, so they can get the friends over.

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They can have sort of sleepovers.

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It was two years ago when Sam and Roly finally decided

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to take the plunge, even though it meant taking out a much bigger mortgage.

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We'd remortgaged the previous summer in order to raise the funds for the loft conversion.

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We'd remortgaged for £25,000, which we, at the time, presumed

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would be enough money to cover an extra bedroom and a bathroom.

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Dad, Roly, was really looking forward to having a bathroom he would only have to share with his wife.

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I think anyone that's got three women in the house or two daughters

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would understand that it was necessary to have an extra bathroom.

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I get my five minutes and that's about it really.

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It's a regimental regime in the morning.

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There's banging on the doors in the morning and,

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"Amie, get out the bathroom!

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"You've been in there for 40 minutes."

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We're always arguing.

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Everyone's got their time slots and if we go over by a matter of seconds or minutes, there's...

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Well, it's not pretty.

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The Turner family knew exactly what they wanted from their loft conversion -

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a new bedroom for Mum and Dad, and a big new family bathroom.

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Now all they needed was a builder.

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Sam and Roly knew of a local builder through their daughter's friend, so they got him in for a quote.

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We had an acquaintance which was a friend of our youngest daughter and we got three people round.

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They had a look round, gave us quotes, put the proper quotes in and it happened to be the middle quote.

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As we felt that we knew him, we knew that he would do a good job for us.

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He had some lovely ideas.

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The builder was just starting his own business, but he showed Sam and Roly photos of work he said he'd done

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and promised that some extra design features were included in his 24-grand quote.

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He'd shown us his portfolio, which looked all great, and we decided to give him a go.

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Converting the loft to create a bedroom and bathroom for Mum and Dad would take 12 weeks.

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The Turners knew that they shouldn't let the builder start work until they had a signed contract.

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The contract stated that the money owed would be paid in instalments.

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We paid an initial deposit.

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Then we paid two more instalments, quite hefty instalments, in cash.

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The Turners handed over lots of money, almost ten grand as a deposit and another seven grand

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on the first day of the job.

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Although we get told not to pay up front, when you've got small companies, they don't necessarily

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have the cash flow that big companies do and it looked above board and normal, so we went ahead.

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The Turners were right to insist on a written contract, but they made a common mistake

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when they agreed to pay up front.

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Take my tip...

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The Turners paid up 70% of the money before work even started.

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The first month of work went really well.

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The builder that we had the contract with started immediately,

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as soon as he had the keys, and he had two subcontractors working with him.

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Everything was going really, really well. He kept turning up on time. The subcontractors were here.

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Progress was as per the schedule.

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The first big stage of the job was to push the roof out to form an extended box-like structure called a dormer.

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Work got off to a good start and the dormer was erected in no time at all.

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Once the dormer had gone up, the buildings regulations were happy

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with the steels and the structure and then, after that, unfortunately,

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the two subcontractors that the builder had had working with him weren't on site any more.

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As soon as the dormer was up, the builder asked Sam and Roly for another five-and-a-half grand.

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Now he'd been paid 95% of the money.

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Paid the last payment when he said it was 50% complete

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and we said, "What's still to do?" and he said, "I've just got to

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"put the insulation up and we've got to put the stud walling up and that's it." And he ran through it

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and he said, "That's only another two weeks' work and that's it pretty much done."

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And now progress slowed down dramatically.

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He wasn't at the property as much as he had been. Any work he was doing

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was of a sub-standard and we began to be concerned about what was going on up there.

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We kept getting fobbed off with, "Yeah, yeah, I've done this," or, "The plumber hasn't turned up,"

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or, "The electrician hasn't turned up." And it just kept going on.

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We're not professionals but we began to wonder how that was progressing and was it work of a good standard?

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About 12, 14 weeks into it, we hadn't actually progressed since the dormer had gone up,

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so for about five weeks there was nothing happening at all.

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We couldn't see any improvement. Tried to get hold of him. At that point,

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we realised something was seriously amiss and, once he'd had

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that 95% payment, there's not really a lot we could have done.

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Sam and Roly handed over 95% of the cash, 22-and-a-half grand,

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but the builder had only done half the job.

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It didn't look like he would ever finish.

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By week 20, we knew that things weren't going to improve.

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We realised, finally, that he wasn't going to complete our loft conversion.

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He had no intention of doing so.

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We had to give him notice of seven days to terminate the contract.

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We were forced to do that and at that point it was heartbreaking because we knew that we had paid

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him £22,500 of our money and he was not going to finish that loft conversion for us.

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Sam and Roly paid their builder 22-and-a-half grand, mostly in cash.

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He said the job would take just two more weeks but, finally, they knew it wasn't true.

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They were left with a leaking roof, wet and mouldy plasterboard,

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damaged insulation, half a bathroom and nowhere to call a bedroom.

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The Turners finally sent the builder packing.

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He then took his tools and he started moving the materials from the loft as well.

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When we asked him why he was taking materials, he explained that we hadn't actually paid for them.

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But their trouble was far from over.

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The Turners were about to get a very nasty surprise.

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The heavens opened and the true horror of this builder's work was revealed.

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The rooflight leaked like a sieve.

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The Turners filmed this video two years ago, just after the builder left.

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Ah, another sleepless night!

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The Turners had to fork out a further £6,000 on emergency remedial work to the leaky windows and walls

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and to make sure it wasn't causing further damage anywhere in the home.

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After paying to make their home watertight, the Turners were drowning in debt.

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Coming up, an expert's damning verdict on this builder's abandoned work.

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There are some things he seemingly has finished, but he's finished incorrectly.

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So those things have to be taken out and done again.

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In Plymouth, Sam, Roly and teenage daughters, Amie and Beth, dreamed of a new loft conversion.

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There would be a new bedroom for Mum and Dad, and a new bathroom

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to make mornings run more smoothly in the Turner household.

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But after taking 95% of their money, the builder completed just half the job.

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It's time to see just what the family was left with.

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These are the lovely stairs coming up to the new loft conversion.

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The job was supposed to take 12 weeks, but the builder abandoned it after week 20.

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I can't even bear to be up here.

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It's... It just... I don't come up...

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I come up as little as possible.

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It just upsets me too much to think of what we could have had and what we've now lost.

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The Turners have had to pay for remedial work to make the roof structure more secure and watertight.

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Here is going to be a storage space and a wardrobe at the front.

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Then we would have our sleeping area here and all that would be is just a bed and two bedside tables.

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We don't need anything else.

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And then the big, nice family bathroom.

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The state of this insulation proves the builder was clueless.

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It's got marks in it, holes in it, tape over it.

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Bits that don't fit properly and have been bodged together.

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Scratches.

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This guy couldn't even put up a simple internal wall.

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He had put up a stud wall

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to separate the bathroom from the bedroom, but you could push it and it would have fallen down,

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so we had to have that removed

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just because moving about up here, it would have fallen down anyway.

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The job has transformed family life, but not in the way the Turners hoped.

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We thought that within three months of going ahead,

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we would be functional with a nice new bedroom, a nice new bathroom.

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We immediately picked out new quilt covers and what coloured curtains we were going to have.

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Sam and Roly have been camping out up here when relatives come and stay,

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but soon they'll be closing it up to get through the winter.

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We are using it to a certain degree at the moment but, come the winter,

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we're going to have to shut it all down again and put a big board up here because the rest of the house

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can't maintain losing its heat for an empty space that's just letting all the heat out.

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It's two years since the builder dumped the family in this appalling mess.

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He left them deep in debt and there's no easy way forward.

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The Turners' hopes and dreams for a bigger family home

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were left in despair when their cowboy builder ruined their loft conversion.

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Time for me to meet them.

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-Hello. You must be Sam. Mind if I come in?

-Absolutely. Come on through.

-Thank you.

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Winter is just around the corner. I don't want Sam and Roly boarding up the loft again this year.

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We don't have much time, but I hope we can help get them started on that long climb ahead.

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What could we do for you in that short space of time

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that would help you on the road to be able to live in that space?

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Well, because of the fact that during the cold winter months

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it had to all be blocked off and was just a dead space.

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-To be able to have it insulated, plasterboarded...

-Just liveable.

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..and just as a blank canvas would just make us ecstatic.

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OK. Well, look,

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let me see what I can do. I'd love to do something positive for you guys.

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There's a big job ahead before the couple can move up here. The space is one big fridge-freezer in winter.

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We've got to replace all the damaged insulation and that's just for starters.

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A polythene-like vapour barrier must be installed to protect the insulation from damp

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and make the space energy efficient. The electric cabling must be moved

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into the right position. That's before we can even think about lining the timbers with plasterboard,

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so it starts to look like a room.

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You know, Sam and Roly could really do with some help in that loft,

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so they can finally use some much-needed space.

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So I think it's time to bring on the good guys.

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But before the good guys get stuck in, I want to get

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the verdict on this builder's work from an independent chartered surveyor.

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There are some things he seemingly has finished,

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but he's finished incorrectly.

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So those things have to be taken out and done again and that's not good enough.

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My main objection to him is the contract he entered into.

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He said that... At least, I'm told he said,

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that 95% of the money was due when 50% of the work was done and that was normal. Well, it's not normal.

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The insulation hasn't been properly fitted.

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It's not sealed. It's not taped. There's no vapour barrier.

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The wiring's been run behind the insulation, which is going to compromise the vapour barrier.

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The builder took almost all of the money for only half of the job, so what score does he deserve?

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The insulation needs adjusting.

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The wiring needs adjusting.

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The plasterboard needs finishing.

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And overall I would give it five out of ten.

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Five out of ten!

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In my opinion, that's way more than generous for this cowboy.

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Coming up, the Turners' cowboy kicked them three times.

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He took their money, messed up the job and cost them a fortune fixing his mistakes.

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You've had to fork out then how much for remedial work?

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-£6,000.

-On top of?

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On top of the 22,500.

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The Turner family wanted a loft conversion,

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but when they hired a cowboy builder to do the job, they were left with water pouring through the roof.

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The bills for emergency work came flooding in and left the family drowning in debt.

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Two years on, the roof is fixed, but the loft lies abandoned.

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We've got the good guys here now to try and get the family back on track.

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Bill is leading our team.

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Now, Bill, what's your plan?

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What are you going to do here for Sam and Roly?

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We're going to finish off the insulation that's not been done,

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build a stud wall to form a cupboard area, put a vapour barrier up,

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plasterboard all the walls and ceilings in this area and skim plaster finish it.

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So how long do you think this job is going to take you to do?

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I'm looking at sort of round about the eight days to be finished.

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OK. Well, look, I'll do a bit of a catch-up with you later on. But for now, Bill,

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-thank you.

-Thanks, Clive.

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While the good guys get stuck in insulating the loft against the coming winter, I want to track back

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with Sam and Roly and find out how their build went bad.

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At what stage do we get to, when the first alarm bell rings?

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I think it was literally after the dormer went up and the subcontractors,

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who we later found out were the ones that done all the work,

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left site and it was left with the main builder and just then everything dried up, didn't it?

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What about building inspectors?

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Did building inspectors come and have a look?

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Yeah, when the dormer went up, the building inspector was so impressed with the work.

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It was really professional, everything was above board and he was quite happy just to go ahead

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and next time it would be virtually to sign it off, wouldn't it?

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It was when we got him back after we sort of got rid of the builder

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that everything that was done after that was so substandard

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that he was getting quite concerned of other bits that had been done.

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He now realises, as you rightly say, Roly,

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he's not competent to actually complete that work and he's now getting caught out.

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-You decide that you don't want him back any further. Is this what we're saying?

-That's right.

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Yeah, he put his final invoice in after that...well, before that...

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and asked for another £4,500 on top.

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-We asked could we have the reasons why...

-A breakdown.

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Yeah, a breakdown of your costs, which was very sketchy.

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We wanted to know where this money was going. If he could justify it, yeah, fine.

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But he was charging us for his own labour to come in and work weekends.

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Now he was the one that gave us the quote for his work,

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so he couldn't really ask us for any more money for his overtime.

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Not a chance! But he was going to chance his arm though, because you were prepared to do things

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like pay money up front and probably turn a blind eye occasionally

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to work that might've been substandard, but you're hoping to get the job finished and completed.

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Was it your decision?

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Did you make that decision to say, "You're not coming back"?

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-We did, didn't we?

-Yeah.

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Sam and Roly did everything by the book.

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There's a right way to terminate a contract and a wrong way.

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Take my advice, don't just throw your bad builder off the job.

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Sam and Roly gave their bad builder seven days' notice to complete or quit. He gave them

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another week of misery. He hacked a hole in the roof and fitted a skylight. The heavy rain

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was final proof his work was no good.

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The Velux window that was fitted virtually just before termination of contract,

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you could see daylight all the way around it.

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At the end of the seven days' notice, the builder came back one final time to collect his tools.

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He started removing the materials from the loft as well.

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When we asked him why he was taking materials, he explained that we hadn't actually paid for them.

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The builder had even more surprises in store. He hadn't bothered

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to fit any roof tiles to the dormer and the rain poured in there, too.

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We had to get an emergency roofer in as well to come and do that.

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Fortunately, the scaffolding company contacted us the day that we terminated the contract

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just to double check that the work hadn't been finished

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because they got contacted and got told to remove all the scaffolding.

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The cowboy was taking his revenge everywhere.

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The bath that he said he'd actually installed, we used twice

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and then realised that the plumbing wasn't plumbed in

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and we found that out when all the water come out on to the landing.

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The builder even told the firm of electricians to refund him

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the money he'd charged the Turners to do the wiring.

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We did the first fix as he requested.

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Obviously, we were then meant to call back

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to do a second fix at a later date.

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This never materialised and some six months later

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I actually had a phone call to come and do the second fix on the house.

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When I arrived the house was in uproar. I mean, everything, as you saw it, was in a terrible mess.

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There were no ceilings, no plaster, no walls.

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The cables had been all cut and damaged. And at that time,

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the builder was here and, obviously, there had been a fall-out between him and the clients downstairs.

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He then asked us not to come back and do the second fix,

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but in fact to give him some money back, which, as we had a contract with him, we had to do so.

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The builder wreaked havoc wherever he could,

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even though he was once a family friend. He'd had 22-and-a-half grand, but the Turners' bill kept on rising.

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Well, unfortunately, we discovered that the dormer cheeks had been left exposed to the elements

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during a very wet summer for the whole time that the dormer had been up

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to the time when we terminated the contract - a total of 13 weeks.

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So, of course, water was penetrating into the house

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and we had to have emergency works done...

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There was no waterproof membrane installed.

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The insulation was put in at such poor standard, you could put your hand through it

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-between the gaps.

-Yeah.

-It wasn't even worth having.

-No.

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We were fortunate that we had a sound structure, but everything thereafter had something wrong.

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There wasn't one completed job.

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The insulation wasn't complete. The plasterboard that had been used

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was mouldy because it had been left outside for so long.

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You've had to fork out then how much for the remedial work?

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-£6,000.

-On top of?

-On top of the 22,500.

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-This is what people have to realise. It's the cost of repairing the work these guys do.

-Absolutely. Yeah.

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How was it for you guys when you realised he's not coming back,

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you've got to fork out another six grand for remedial works,

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you're looking around the debris that's up in that loft space? What is your reaction?

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We went down and saw Citizens Advice. We went to a mediation service, didn't we,

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to try and keep all the lines open? Try to keep him on side, just to get the money back to finish the job.

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The money we forked out on emergency works, we were quite happy to let that go just to get the job done.

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-Cos getting the job done was the main priority, but we had no joy at all, did we?

-No.

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Emotionally, we were heartbroken, drained, just devastated.

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Could not believe that anyone could do this to us when we'd thought that nothing could go wrong,

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that he was an acquaintance that promised us the earth and just didn't deliver.

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Coming up, now deep in debt, the Turners decide it's payback time for their bad builder.

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We decided that actually the builder had taken our money and we wanted it back.

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We're in Plymouth helping the Turner family put their bad builder behind them.

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Two years ago, they had their loft converted. Water poured into the house

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when the builder failed to fix the roof tiles and rain ruined all the plasterboard. But our team

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of good guys is on the job now. We need to strip out the wet and mouldy

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insulation material, re-lay the electric cables and re-insulate the walls and ceilings

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to comply with building regulations.

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Then we need to line the walls with new plasterboard.

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We're going to build a small stud wall to separate the area under the eaves into a big storage cupboard.

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Bill and Joe are measuring up. Stud walls are a quick way of separating

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interior spaces and relatively easy to build.

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Now, Joe, look, you're doing for Sam and Roly, segregating a room off with a stud wall.

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Explain what a stud wall is and what it does.

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-Well, basically, what you'll do... This is your header plate.

-Yep.

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This is your base plate down here.

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This will be nailed to the ceiling, that one nailed to the floor,

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-with these nailed in-between...

-Yep.

-..which you'd plasterboard to.

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To provide stability, you put these noggins in the middle,

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which would stop the wall from flexing. Then you plasterboard

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-over the top and you've got your separation.

-Fantastic!

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While Joe gets the new stud wall installed inside the loft,

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it's time to find out what Sam and Roly did after their builder left.

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After terminating the contract, we realised that the emergency works and the remedial works

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were going to cost some money and we were forced to take out an additional loan, in addition

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to the remortgaging that we'd done. So we had to take out a loan for £6,000.

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The bills just kept on piling up.

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The cowboy hit them not once, not twice, but three times.

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He took all their mortgage money, wrecked their home and, when they were down,

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he through them deep into debt to pay for his damage.

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It was spiralling out of control, cos it was one thing and another.

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We'd managed to make the roof watertight, or the loft watertight,

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but it still wasn't useable. There was no membranes inside, there was no insulation.

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It was coming up for wintertime and all we could do was block it off

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with some insulation and leave it until the spring.

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Sam dreads the arrival of winter because it's another painful reminder of their lack of progress.

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It's absolutely tragic at the end of each summer to have to block it off for the winter because, of course,

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it's not insulated so it's an unusable space completely.

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The financial burden has been a big strain on family life.

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No holidays since then, not even sort of weekend breaks or anything.

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We just piled everything into trying to get as much work done as possible.

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It's caused lots of arguments and there's times where like Mum and Dad have been upset

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for days because we've had like a phone call saying something's gone wrong, or just everything really.

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There's been no ups, it's all been downs.

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But the Turners did strike back. Once the emergency work was done, they decided on their next move.

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Once we had exhausted all possibilities of finding finances to be able to complete the loft,

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we decided that actually the builder had taken our money

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and we wanted it back, so we sought legal advice

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and went ahead to try and reclaim our money through the legal process.

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Sam and Roly were advised by the Citizens Advice Bureau to contact

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the National Mediation Helpline, which they did.

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Going to mediation can provide a very successful alternative to taking your builder to court.

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Mediators bring the parties together to discuss their dispute on neutral ground.

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It enables both parties to express their feelings,

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their views, their opinions in a controlled environment

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where a mediator will actually police the opening statements

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and encourage both sides to reply but stop people interrupting each other.

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So it should be a reasonably calm exchange. Sometimes it can become

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heated and then there's always the option of splitting the parties.

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And the mediator discusses the issues then individually with each party

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and tries to encourage them to come to a common agreement.

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If you're in dispute and can't communicate with your builder,

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try what Sam and Roly did and attempt to go down the mediation route.

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There are lots of advantages over going straight to court.

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Here's my Clive's five top tips on how to enter into mediation with your builder.

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Over 80% of mediations are successful.

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And the process has impressive results.

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Each party gets to express their view

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and the mediator helps them find common ground.

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In certain circumstances, mediation can be free.

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..rather than take up court time.

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If you do have to pay, you and your builder go 50-50.

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Mediation fees start at around £500.

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The agreement you reach can be enforceable by law.

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If you can't get your builder to go to mediation, your only option is to take them to court.

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If you did nothing, you may not get your costs, even if you win the case.

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The National Mediation Service contacted Sam and Roly's bad builder on their behalf,

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but he didn't want to know.

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They were left with no option but to take him to court.

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Coming up, what would Sam and Roly like to say to their builder now?

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Why did he feel the need to do to us what he did?

0:30:220:30:26

What did we do to him that made him feel that way about us?

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In Plymouth, we're helping a family who fell deep into debt

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after their builder bodged their loft conversion. They used credit cards

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and loans to call in emergency roofers,

0:30:400:30:43

scaffolders and plumbers to make their home watertight. Two years on,

0:30:430:30:47

and they can't afford to get the conversion looking anything like

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the bedroom and bathroom they'd planned. Sam and Roly

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tried everything to get their builder to carry on talking but, in the end, they had to take him to court.

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And so it had cost you £6,000 on the remedial works. How much did it cost you to go to court?

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The solicitors and the court fees, to date, are approximately £8,000.

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We've done a lot of paying month by month so far.

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-We're still 3,000... We're paying in monthly instalments.

-Wow!

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-You're now looking at £14,000 over the top of what you've already paid.

-That's right.

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-That is such a lot of money.

-I know.

-But your joy is in the fact that the judge said he awards you how much?

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Just over £20,000. That was to cover the money that the builder had taken initially,

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but for having only done half the job,

0:31:440:31:46

-the legal and the court fees...

-Emergency repairs.

-..and the emergency and remedial works.

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Have you seen any money from that and has anybody done a structure of how he's going to pay you back the money?

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We haven't seen any money to date.

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It was deemed that he was now unemployed and so was not going to be able to pay the £20,000.

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So he went to court again to present his assets

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and he was told that he could pay us £5 a week.

0:32:110:32:16

-We still haven't seen that.

-I think it was a 14-day deadline, wasn't it,

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to pay the full amount, which came and went.

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And then it was left up to us again to do something about it.

0:32:230:32:26

And we chose to get him into court to show his assets, which cost us, again.

0:32:260:32:32

So they served him with that. He didn't turn up and then it was left in our court again.

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So we had to pay again to serve notice on him again and he never turned up again.

0:32:370:32:42

And then, I think it was the third time... And I think it was £100 a time to have this done.

0:32:420:32:47

I think he actually turned up on the third account.

0:32:470:32:51

-But that was like three, four months after the case was finished.

-Mm.

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Do you believe, looking back, that the law itself

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sort of weighs in the favour of the bad guy

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-as opposed to the good guy with the way that it's all turned out for you?

-Absolutely.

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The law is toothless, cos they can award you this money but then you've got nothing to back it up with.

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And they don't pursue it.

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It definitely favours the criminal because he's walked away with all of our money.

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He's managed to get rid of it all somehow,

0:33:200:33:23

claiming to be unemployed and we're left with nothing and worse.

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Yeah, any other business that would be theft.

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The Turners paid their builder 22-and-a-half grand.

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They spent another six grand on emergency repairs

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And then eight grand more on legal fees.

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They've spent £36,500 on a loft conversion that isn't even finished.

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The builder is paying them nothing, but they're paying off their legal bill at £100 a month.

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Sam and Roly's solicitor says they may get the money back one day.

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You have six years from the date of the judgment to enforce that.

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Although he may not have any money at the moment,

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or have any money or means of paying the judgment at the moment,

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that's not to say he won't be able to pay it in the future

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and that judgment will remain valid for six years.

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And at a later date, if they wanted to take a range for enforcement options like bailiffs

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or a charging order over his property, then that's a possibility.

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Sam and Roly's best friends have supported them through the ordeal.

0:34:240:34:28

They can't believe the court can do so little to bring the builder to justice. He's only supposed to pay

0:34:280:34:35

£5 a week, yet they lost thousands.

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They're going to be 85 by the time he would repaid them the money.

0:34:390:34:43

-What a pointless situation that is.

-Yeah.

0:34:430:34:46

You just find it hard to believe that they paid thousands of pounds in legal costs to get him to court

0:34:460:34:53

and get a decision and then to find out that that all meant nothing.

0:34:530:34:58

And, OK, they were going to get paid like for however many years

0:34:580:35:04

but they were never ever going to get that original work done and they were left with a huge bill,

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and solicitors' fees and they couldn't afford to put right the mess that he'd made.

0:35:090:35:15

It's not justice, is it? I wonder what Sam and Roly would like to say to their builder now?

0:35:150:35:21

Sam, Roly, normally at this stage we would be talking about phoning the builder,

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but in your case it's gone a little bit further than that, because you've taken him to court.

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If you had an opportunity to speak to him, even if he was sitting opposite us right now,

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what are the questions - say, for instance, you've got one main one each -

0:35:390:35:43

what are the questions you'd like to put to him?

0:35:430:35:46

-Why?

-I would say, why did he feel the need to do to us what he did?

0:35:460:35:52

What did we do to him that made him feel that way about us that he had no intention

0:35:520:35:57

of finishing our loft conversion and had every intention of taking our money in the process?

0:35:570:36:03

What about you, Roly?

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Just why or how he can actually...

0:36:040:36:11

well, sleep at night really knowing that he's done this to us? If he's done it to anyone else.

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If he has, I really feel sorry for them.

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I would always recommend that everyone does a lot of background stuff before they get engrossed

0:36:190:36:24

in the euphoria of knowing what they hope they're going to achieve in the future.

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So don't get carried along on, "Yes, we're going to have this lovely extension or loft conversion!"

0:36:290:36:35

or whatever it may be. Make sure that, you know,

0:36:350:36:38

everything, all the groundwork, is done first way before any of that excitement.

0:36:380:36:44

Sam and Roly have shared a very valuable

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and hard-won lesson. They hope their story can help others.

0:36:470:36:51

Coming up, I can't wait to show them there are good guys out there.

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Look up.

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-Wow!

-Oh!

0:36:580:37:00

Oh, how big is that?

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Our work is almost done in Plymouth. It's been a tough two years in the Turner family home.

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No holidays, no family treats, just debts, after their cowboy builder crushed their dreams.

0:37:130:37:20

The loft conversion was bare rafters and damaged insulation when we arrived a week ago.

0:37:200:37:26

Our team has been hard at work getting as much done as possible,

0:37:260:37:29

so Sam and Roly don't have to board up the entrance again this winter.

0:37:290:37:34

There's just time for me to have a sneak preview of the surprise we've got in store for them.

0:37:340:37:38

I tell you what, Bill, what a difference this has made.

0:37:390:37:42

It's amazing what a bit of timber and studwork can do. Just talk us through exactly what you've done.

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We've been putting insulation in the walls and ceilings.

0:37:490:37:53

We've been putting a vapour barrier around the exterior of the property.

0:37:530:37:57

We've then put plasterboard on the walls, skimmed the walls

0:37:570:38:01

and given it a couple of coats of paint to make it look pretty.

0:38:010:38:05

-It's top job and, I'll tell you now, they'll definitely appreciate it, mate. Well, played, Bill.

-Thanks.

0:38:050:38:09

While the guys carry on with the final touches,

0:38:090:38:12

fitting the skirting boards and storage cupboard door,

0:38:120:38:16

I want to find out what Sam and Roly will take away from their experience.

0:38:160:38:20

Now, in terms of having this painful bite from the cowboy builder,

0:38:200:38:25

what have you learned? What lessons have you learned?

0:38:250:38:29

I think research is the main thing. Don't take them for granted.

0:38:290:38:33

Don't just look at their portfolio. Go knocking on the doors, get references.

0:38:330:38:39

Just go and check them out and see what they've actually done is what they've actually done

0:38:390:38:44

and they've not just borrowed it off somebody else.

0:38:440:38:46

And also don't just rely on the fact that you think that you know them, because you don't always know them.

0:38:460:38:51

Now, before we take a look at what the good guys have done...

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This is always the bit that really excites me, especially after all the bad news.

0:38:540:38:59

..just remind me about what it was like before we arrived.

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It was an empty, bare, cold shell. There was mouldy plasterboard up in places.

0:39:060:39:12

There was very little insulation.

0:39:120:39:16

-It looked cold and dank and very unfinished.

-Just unusable, unsafe.

-Yeah.

0:39:160:39:22

What are you hoping for?

0:39:220:39:24

Just a usable space. Just a living space, so we can get back to normal

0:39:240:39:32

-and start doing the stuff that we're supposed to have been doing.

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

0:39:320:39:36

A blank canvas that's going to be insulated and warm so that we can carry on.

0:39:360:39:40

-So my next question is, are you ready?

-Yes!

-Definitely.

-Shall we go?

-Yes.

-Come on, follow me.

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'There's been a big transformation up here since Sam showed us around

0:39:490:39:53

'a week ago. I can't wait to see their reaction.'

0:39:530:39:57

Now then, look up.

0:39:570:39:58

-Wow!

-Oh!

0:40:000:40:01

Oh, how big is that and how fresh?

0:40:040:40:08

Look, the mirror's up and everything.

0:40:080:40:10

-Storage.

-Oh, look at that.

0:40:110:40:13

Door's on.

0:40:150:40:17

-Oh, that is fantastic. Look at that. Oh...

-Have a look.

0:40:180:40:23

Don't go locking her in though!

0:40:230:40:25

-What was that like?

-Oh, that's fantastic.

-Do you remember all what that was like?

0:40:250:40:29

It was just open...open beams, wasn't it? There was nothing.

0:40:290:40:32

There wasn't anything. You can't describe what it was like.

0:40:320:40:35

There was nothing there and now look at it. Oh, it's fabulous.

0:40:350:40:39

You've also got the electrics sorted, so you've got a new RCD fuse board been put in,

0:40:390:40:44

all the second fixes have been done, sockets. You've got your

0:40:440:40:48

zone one lighting up there as well, which is steam resistant and moisture resistant.

0:40:480:40:52

-Your mirror, as you rightly say, is on.

-I love it!

0:40:520:40:56

-Your Hollywood mirror.

-Yeah!

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You've also got a smoke alarm system that's been put in, too, which has to been done

0:40:570:41:02

when you're doing conversions or any extensions like that, so it meets the regulations.

0:41:020:41:07

It's been a huge job to transform this loft

0:41:070:41:11

from bare rafters into bedroom and bathroom.

0:41:110:41:14

There is some more work required to completely separate the two areas,

0:41:140:41:17

but now the loft is fully insulated and warm and Sam and Roly

0:41:170:41:21

can finally sleep up here.

0:41:210:41:23

There are some very important things that can't be seen. The vapour barrier

0:41:230:41:27

is in place to prevent damp and the electrics have all been second fixed.

0:41:270:41:31

Our team built a low stud wall to separate off the area under the eaves to create valuable storage.

0:41:310:41:38

At a later date, a second stud wall will be required to separate the bedroom from the bathroom.

0:41:380:41:44

The bathroom is fully functioning, the toilet cistern boxed in

0:41:440:41:47

and a smart new mirror fixed above the basin. After that,

0:41:470:41:51

it's all in the finish. The plasterboard has been skimmed,

0:41:510:41:54

skirtings fitted and then all the walls and ceiling have been decorated.

0:41:540:41:58

It's a total transformation, even better than the blank canvas Sam and Roly hoped for.

0:41:580:42:05

-What sort of difference is this going to make to your life?

-Oh, unbelievable.

0:42:050:42:09

Unbelievable. It's going to be warm. It's going to be a space that we can use.

0:42:090:42:14

-It's usable.

-Yeah. It means that we...

-I can have a bath!

0:42:140:42:18

..we move out the way and the girls can grow up and move into spaces that they should have had.

0:42:180:42:25

Are you pleased? Are you guys pleased?

0:42:250:42:27

-Oh, more than...

-I can't say how brilliant this is.

0:42:270:42:31

-Superb.

-Thank you.

0:42:310:42:32

The Turners really have been through the mill with this loft conversion,

0:42:320:42:36

but we've lent a helping hand and now, finally, they can use that lovely space.

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Remember to always consider the cost implications of taking your cowboy builder to court.

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But, hopefully, you won't get caught in the cowboy trap.

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