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I've been fighting your consumer battles for years, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
but there are still companies out there trying to get one over on you. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:07 | |
They don't care, as long as the cash register's going "ching, ching", that's all they care about. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
Thousands of you are still subject to an array of unfair treatment, | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
from poor customer service, to hidden small print, and faulty products. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:20 | |
What can we do? | 0:00:21 | 0:00:22 | |
Make a complaint maybe, that will get lost in the communications abyss? | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
These companies simply don't seem to care, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
and are causing you, the consumer, a lot of unnecessary stress. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
But, never fear, | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
because I'll take them on, to make sure you don't get done. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
And coming up on today's show: | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
I tackle the costly issue of mobile phone data roaming for one hapless holidaymaker. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:06 | |
I contacted T Mobile and was told I had charges of over £2,000, | 0:01:06 | 0:01:11 | |
so my phone had been restricted. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
Follow my guide to mortgage protection to ensure you don't get stung. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
It was two years last month since I lost my husband. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
And my biggest fear now is I can't pay the mortgage. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
And we test your consumer knowledge on the streets of Britain. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
Interesting! I'll remember that for the future! | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
There was a time when, to make a phone call, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
your phone had to be plugged into the wall. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
Nowadays, we've all got mobile phones and you can ring someone from anywhere in the world. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:49 | |
And not just phone calls either. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
I can check my e-mails in one country... | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
..while surfing the net in another. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
I can download movies while on holiday. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
And stream brand new albums down while on a business trip. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:09 | |
International data roaming is a fantastic idea. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
But it can come with a pretty big bill. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:18 | |
Oh! | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
Ouch. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
And that's just what T Mobile customer, Dawn Christie, from Bristol, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
found out on her return from a week-long trip abroad. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
I went on holiday in September to celebrate a friend's birthday. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
We went to Egypt to do a Nile cruise. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
I took my phone with me. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
And my phone was turned on, but was mainly in my cabin. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:44 | |
The reason I had it switched on was I wanted to be able | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
to receive calls or messages from home, because my father had been seriously ill. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:52 | |
So I wanted to be in touch with my family. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
A well needed break from work meant Dawn had no desire to use her smart phone much while away. | 0:02:54 | 0:03:02 | |
I think I sent three or four text messages. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
Other than that, didn't use it at all, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
apart from when the battery ran out on my camera, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
and then I used the camera on the phone. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
After a relaxing holiday, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
Dawn's stress levels were about to rise as soon as she got back home. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
When I returned from Egypt, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:19 | |
the first thing I did was to ring my mum to find out how my dad was. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
As I tried to make the phone call, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
I got a recorded message from T Mobile, telling me I'd exceeded my limit. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:31 | |
I thought this was really strange because I'm on a contract | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
and I've never exceeded my limit. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
I contacted T Mobile. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
I was told I had charges of over £2,000. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
So my phone had been restricted. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
The charges were for a staggering amount of data use whilst abroad, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
suggesting Dawn had accessed the Internet from her phone while in Egypt. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:54 | |
I explained to the operator I hadn't used the phone, | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
and she said my phone would automatically roam while switched on, which I wasn't aware of. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:02 | |
Horrified, and being told to complain in writing, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
Dawn sent an e-mail to T Mobile, and soon received a call back from customer services. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:10 | |
The girl I spoke to was extremely rude. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
Virtually implied I was lying, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
that I had used the phone while I was abroad, which I explained I hadn't, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
and that I didn't know about the data roaming charges. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
She told me I would have known, because the pilot would have told me on the plane. Which he didn't do. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:26 | |
And I don't think it's the pilot's responsibility to tell me to turn my phone off. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
Dawn was left with an unsupportive response from T Mobile | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
and no outgoing mobile phone line at the worst possible moment. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:39 | |
At the time when I needed my phone the most, | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
because my father sadly passed away, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
I wasn't able to use it at all. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
After more calls and e-mails to T Mobile, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
Dawn's phone was eventually reconnected, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
and they offered her a 25% reduction of the total bill. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:56 | |
But Dawn is adamant she shouldn't have to pay | 0:04:56 | 0:04:57 | |
for any of the data roaming charges within her bill of £2,209.80, | 0:04:57 | 0:05:04 | |
as she's positive she didn't use the Internet abroad. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
I feel quite happy that Dom's taken this seriously, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:13 | |
that he's going to look into this for me. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
I feel quite confident that, with the help of Dominic, | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
that something will happen. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
I'll certainly try my best, Dawn. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
But a face-to-face meeting is needed first, I think. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
I've come to Bristol to meet Dawn Christie. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
Her problem particularly interests me because it's one that keeps cropping up in my inbox. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:37 | |
-Hello. -Dom, thanks for coming. Come on in. -My pleasure. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
-Nice day, isn't it? -Yeah, it is a lovely day. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
'First of all, I want to know how clued up Dawn is about her phone.' | 0:05:49 | 0:05:54 | |
-Is this the phone? -Yes. -Smart phones now, they're brilliant. | 0:05:55 | 0:06:00 | |
I've got the iPhone. You've got the HTC. They are good. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
-But are you 100% certain what you're doing this? -No. -Right. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
And that can be a bit of a problem. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
Do you think there's any chance in the world | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
you might have pressed a button, done something, made a mistake, | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
and you've genuinely downloaded this huge amount data? | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
-No. -You're adamant on that? -Yes. -OK. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
-No one else borrowed your phone, stole it, anything else like that? -No, it was in my cabin, locked away. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:26 | |
-Is it password protected? -Yes, it's password protected. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
-It's not that then, is it? -No. -Right. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
-So it does look like you might be innocent? -Yes. I know I am innocent. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
Have they actually told you what it is that caused that? | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
Was it videos, music, radio? | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
No, they haven't told me anything. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
Dawn did leave the data roaming function on instead of switching it off, | 0:06:43 | 0:06:48 | |
but didn't actively access the Internet from her phone. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
And another puzzling thing about the charges | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
was the distribution of the data used, which Dawn spotted when the bill came through. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:58 | |
So, every single day there are some charges for mobile data. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:03 | |
And, most days, it's small amounts, less than £10. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:08 | |
Then we get to Monday 26 September, when there's two amounts, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:13 | |
one for £1,056. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
And another one for £893.89. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
They said it's because my phone was roaming. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
So I was quite shocked to see it was all on one day. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
What? | 0:07:26 | 0:07:27 | |
So, nearly £2,000 of Dawn's bill | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
was for data roaming charges on a single day. That's almost unbelievable. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:34 | |
I've taken my smart phone to Europe. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
But, when I've been in Europe, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
the first thing I get is a text message from T Mobile | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
asking me if I want to purchase a data roaming bundle. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
And, if I purchase it, I can use the Internet. If I don't, I can't use the Internet. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
So I would have assumed that would have been the case, internationally. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
You may have hit the nail on the head, with the crux of the problem. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
There's a certain amount of protection inside the EU. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
Step outside of the EU and, all of a sudden, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
-you can end up in an awful position like this. -Yeah. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
If you were going to Egypt next week, and were going to apply for a limit, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
a data allowance limit or a cap on your bill, what would you set it at? | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
-About £50. -Yeah. I'm with you on that. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
-Because you don't want any shocking bills. -No. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
I tell you what would be very interesting. You've been with T Mobile for ten years. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
Do some homework. Find out for me what other companies do about using your phone outside of the EU, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:28 | |
whether other people put a protection in place. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
-You're definitely 100% positive it's a mistake, aren't you? -Yes. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:35 | |
Is it, something that's happened out in Egypt? Is it their mistake, and T Mobile are innocent? | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
-Or was it T Mobile's mistake, or was it a combination of both? -Yeah. -I'll be on to it. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
I might need to borrow that. Don't use, don't wipe anything on it. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
If that's the case, I'll let you know, because I might need to get that examined. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
-I'll see how I get on. -OK. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
One last thing. You tell me what you'd like to happen? | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
One, it would be good if they could wipe the bill off, or remove those charges. That would make me happy. | 0:08:54 | 0:09:00 | |
But I think, more importantly to me, is people are made aware. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:05 | |
Because I don't want somebody else to go abroad, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
to be unsuspecting, and come back to amounts of charges. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
These mobile companies shouldn't get away with it. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
-I agree with you. And I bet the problem's massive once I start investigating it. -Yes. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:17 | |
The problem I'm going to have here is, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:18 | |
if T Mobile are telling Dawn she's used all this data, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
it's going to be very hard for me to prove that she hasn't. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
But, even so, using £1,800 worth in one day, and they haven't even sent her a warning, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:30 | |
that in itself is wrong. Let's see how I get on. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
Time to make my first phone call to T Mobile. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
Let me tell you, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
data charges for when people are abroad | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
are something which we hear tons and tons of complaints about. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
From experience, a lot of these big companies dig their heels in. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
I've got a funny feeling I'm going to end up with a battle on my hands here. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
RING TONE | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
Please don't. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
Just say sorry and she can have a refund. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
"Welcome to T Mobile. If you are already a customer, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
"or you're in the process of joining us, press one." | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
Unfortunately, getting through to the right department isn't that easy. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
BEEP | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
Hash. Puts you through to an operator sooner or later. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
-"Press one..." -Hash. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:16 | |
-"If you are already a customer..." -Hash. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
-"If you're already..." -Hash. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
-"If you are already..." -Hash. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:21 | |
"Sorry, that's not on my list!" | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
You're not on my list! | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
"Try again later. Bye-bye." | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
LINE GOES DEAD | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
And, believe it or not, things just get worse. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
Damn it. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:34 | |
I'm not having a lot of luck here. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
I can't seem to get through to anyone at T Mobile. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
HIGH-PITCHED TONE | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
"Sorry you're having a problem." | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
PHONE LINE DEAD | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
I'm in disbelief that it's taken this amount of time | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
to get through to someone I can talk to about Dawn's case. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
But, finally, it seems I might have a number for their PR office. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
I've probably spent 20-25 minutes getting the phone number of someone to speak to at T Mobile. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
Most people would probably have given up at that point. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
I felt like it, but I'm not doing that because I feel even more determined to speak to somebody. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
If this one doesn't work, I suggest you switch your TVs off, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
because I'm going to smash that phone up. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
DIALLING TONE | 0:11:18 | 0:11:19 | |
'Hurrah. Someone of use has finally answered.' | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
Basically, this lady went on holiday last year. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
She's been billed for using 262 megabytes of data allowance, | 0:11:26 | 0:11:33 | |
literally in one day. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:34 | |
Now, she's got this bill which is £2,000. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
'I explained the details, and they say they'll get back to me.' | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
Now, normally, I fight other people's consumer battles, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
but this time, it's me who feels wronged. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
Time to complain the only way I know. Firm, but fair. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:51 | |
Well, first of all, I tried your 0845 numbers. Then your 0844 numbers. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:56 | |
Then your 0800 numbers. Then, I eventually got through to a lady in the Philippines | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
and she gave me an 070 number. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
Then I was given a customer service number which is an 01707 number. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
Eventually, I got the number I've dialled you on. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
Literally it's taken me half an hour and plenty of searching on the Internet. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
I tell you what, for a communications company, it was shocking. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
Bye-bye. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
What a breath of relief. Finally, I got to speak to a human being, | 0:12:20 | 0:12:25 | |
who actually seemed very, very nice. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
This lady said, fine, get all the details over to me, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
and we will see what we can sort out. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
That doesn't mean they're going to rectify this problem, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
it just means they're going to look at it and give me their answers. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
Which, I suspect, initially, is probably going to be, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
she used it, she's going to pay for it. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
Fingers crossed my battle, from now on, will be less taxing. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:46 | |
Supply me with concrete proof, and that's it, I'll go away, you won't hear from me again. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
If you can't, I'm going to keep fighting on behalf of Dawn. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
Consumer law can be very confusing. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
You've got your Sale of Goods Act. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
Distance selling. Right to return. I could go on and on. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
But knowing just a few of these laws can save you not only money, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
but a lot of hassle as well. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:11 | |
My research team | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
have been out on the streets, armed with questions to put to you, | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
the buying public, to find out if you know your consumer rights from your consumer wrongs. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:21 | |
Today, we've headed to Birmingham, in our quest for spreading knowledge. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:29 | |
First up: | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
"One month, your utility company takes out more money from your bank than your agreed direct debit. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:39 | |
"When you call to complain, they say your account is in arrears, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:44 | |
"and they need to cover the shortfall. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
"Can they do this?" Yes, I think they can. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
-No. -No, they can't, because they've taken more than they agreed. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
Two out of three of you correct. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
If your direct debit is for a fixed amount, | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
they are not entitled to take a penny more. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
To clear the outstanding debt, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
they should either continue collecting the monthly payment until it's paid off, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
or write to you to let you know the monthly payments need to be increased. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:12 | |
No? Right. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
-And know your rights as well. -Next up: | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
"You go out for dinner to a restaurant. The service is terrible. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
"The menu states that a compulsory 12% service charge will be added. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
"Do you have to pay this?" | 0:14:28 | 0:14:29 | |
Yes, you do, because you've had the service. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
So I guess you have to pay. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:34 | |
No. Well, I wouldn't. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
And you're correct, madam. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:37 | |
If the service was poor, then the restaurant have technically broken their contract with you. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:42 | |
Even if they say it's compulsory, you are well within your rights to refuse to pay it. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:47 | |
But if the service was satisfactory, and the charge listed as compulsory, | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
then you're obliged to pay it. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
-I got one right. -You did indeed, clever clogs. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
And lastly: | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
"You're coming back from a holiday in Greece, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
"and your flight home is overbooked. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
"The airline asks for volunteers to transfer to fly the next day. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
"They offer you a night in a four-star hotel, including a meal and transport back to the airport. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:12 | |
-"Should you accept it?" -Yeah, I'd accept that. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
If you weren't that bothered, yeah, I'd accept it. But you don't have to. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
I don't think you have to accept it, but I think I probably would | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
because then you get an extra day in Greece in a four-star hotel. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
Correct indeed. You're not obliged to accept the airline's offer. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:29 | |
Under EU law, there's no limit on compensation for passengers in these circumstances. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:34 | |
But if you did want to accept the offer, you should push for more benefits, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
like travel vouchers or complimentary trips. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
Interesting. I'll remember that for the future! | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
So there's room for improvement. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
But clearly, some of you have listened to me over the years. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
A little bit of know-how can go a long way to stopping you from getting done. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:55 | |
As a nation, us Brits just love our smart phones. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
At the end of last year, there were ten million of them in the UK. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
Take warning. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:09 | |
Each one of these has the potential to run up a huge bill when you take it abroad. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:14 | |
T Mobile customer Dawn got the shock of her life when she returned from holiday | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
to find a smart phone had run up a staggering bill of | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
£2209.80, mostly for data roaming while away. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:31 | |
I've gone over the holiday in my mind, over and over again. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
And I never used the Internet, so I have no idea what the charges are. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
T Mobile told Dawn that if her data roaming function was switched on, | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
the phone could have been downloading data in the background. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
But still, more than £800 of the charges were for one day only. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
Surely that's not possible? | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
While Dawn was in Egypt, | 0:16:55 | 0:16:56 | |
T Mobile were charging her a massive £7.50 per megabyte. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
Now, given the right conditions, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
a smart phone can download about two megabytes per second. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
That means she could be getting billed £900 per minute | 0:17:06 | 0:17:12 | |
if the phone is doing maximum downloads. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
All of a sudden, smart phones don't seem that clever, do they? | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
My research into T Mobile reveals that, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
when it comes to international roaming on their smart phones, | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
they have data packages or boosters available to buy for travel in Europe | 0:17:23 | 0:17:28 | |
so you know exactly what you're spending. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
By law, but only within Europe, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
service providers now have to cap data bills at 50 euros per month. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:37 | |
But still around 1.4 million of you have complained to telecoms regulator OFCOM, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:42 | |
about bill shock, mainly from data roaming charges. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
However, there are changes coming in to protect the consumer in 2014. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
But customers will still be unprotected further afield than Europe. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:56 | |
So it's up to you, the public, to protect yourselves. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
But the question is, do you know how to? | 0:17:59 | 0:18:04 | |
Well, I'm about to find out as I hit the high street find out | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
how many of you have had similar situations to Dawn's. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
-Do you own a smart phone? -I do, yes. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
-Do you own a smart phone? -Yeah, I do. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
-Do you own a smart phone? -I do, yes, an Android phone. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
-Do you ever take it abroad? -I do, yes. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
Have you ever had any bills that were rather large, larger than you were expecting? | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
Yeah. That once stung situation. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:30 | |
I've tried it once, | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
and when I came back, they charge me around £120 for checking my e-mail. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:37 | |
How did you feel about having to pay about £120? | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
I'll never use my phone abroad again, never ever. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
I was trying to follow cricket scores, | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
and also checking my work e-mail on holiday, which I know is a dreadful thing to do. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
OK, so some of you have been stung by expensive data charges. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:55 | |
Phone operator websites do detail the charges, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
but, for me, that's not really good enough. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
What would you do if you came back from a holiday in Egypt, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
and your mobile phone provider sent you a bill for over £2,000, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
and said you had downloaded more than 250 megabytes of data, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
and you didn't even know about it? | 0:19:12 | 0:19:13 | |
Oh my goodness, crazy. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
If that happened, I'd be completely lost. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
I wouldn't know where to go, what to do. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
If she hasn't used it, then she shouldn't have to pay. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
But the mobile phone company's saying you have used it, and she's saying, I haven't. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:28 | |
I still wouldn't pay. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
I think the operators have a moral duty | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
to stop people coming back from holidays and having to fork out huge amounts of money on their bill. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:37 | |
In Dawn's case, two grand. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
And no one can tell her how this has happened. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:44 | |
All they can tell her is they know she's downloaded that amount of data. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
She's disputing it. But they can't tell her what it is was. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
That seems a little tenuous to me. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:51 | |
If she's sure she hasn't, particularly in one day, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
you'd hope they'd be a bit more open-minded about it perhaps. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:59 | |
I agree. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:00 | |
My chat with the general public confirms that lots of you sympathise with Dawn, | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
and have been stung in a similar way. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
But it would be interesting to see exactly what other operators | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
have to offer their customers when travelling outside of Europe. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
So I asked Dawn to research the four other major UK providers. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:17 | |
Hi, yes, I'm looking to get a smart phone, | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
because I want a phone where I can use the Internet. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
If I'm travelling abroad, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
what sort of data plans do you have there? | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
First up, it's 3. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
He was very cagey about Europe and the rest of the world, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:35 | |
and just kept advising me, if I was travelling outside of the UK, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
I should buy the sim card for the country I'm travelling in, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
because it's very expensive to use data whilst outside of the UK. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
Hm. Next, Vodafone. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
He was noncommittal on the charges | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
because he said they were at the mercy of other mobile phone companies. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
And he again said, if you're abroad, I would either buy a sim card for that country, | 0:20:53 | 0:20:58 | |
or turn your Internet off and use Wi-Fi. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
Let's see what O2 have to offer. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
She gave me some prices about abroad. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
So, if you're in Europe, they charge you £3 per megabyte. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
The rest of the world is £6 per megabyte. But they will cap. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
At last, one company who capped data use worldwide. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:21 | |
Lastly, it's a call to Orange, who've recently merged with Dawn's provider, T Mobile. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:28 | |
If you're travelling outside of Europe, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
you can buy a bundle from them for £15, which is 30 megabytes. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
Once you've used that 30 megabytes, they won't charge you, | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
you then have to buy another 30 megabytes. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
That's an awful lot of inconsistencies across the board. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
But thankfully, two countries have plans in place | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
which help prevent overspending on data while travelling outside of Europe. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:52 | |
Had T Mobile implemented a similar system, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
Dawn wouldn't be facing such a hefty bill. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
But I'm still baffled as to how her phone | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
ran up this bill in the first place. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
Dawn has no idea, and T Mobile have mentioned data being used automatically in the background. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:07 | |
What does that mean? | 0:22:07 | 0:22:08 | |
Time to speak to an independent technical expert. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
In terms of what smart phones can do without our knowledge, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
these bite-sized applications we use, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:16 | |
instant messaging, maybe going on the Internet, even our e-mails, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
the news and weather widgets, every single feature and function of our smart phones | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
often picks up little bits of data, so there's loads of things going on in the background, | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
maybe whilst we don't notice. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
Ah. So it's possible Dawn's phone could have been accessing the Internet itself | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
with programmes running in the background. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
Maybe that would explain the 269 megabytes of data T-Mobile say she used. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:43 | |
It's quite a substantial amount of data you'd have to use. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
250 megabytes of data is around 750 web pages, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
maybe 500 e-mails with images. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
So these aren't small amounts we're talking about. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
To use that amount of data in a day, or even a month, is quite a substantial amount. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
750 web pages? I think Dawn would remember visiting that many of them. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:05 | |
Not what you do when cruising down the River Nile! | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
How can T Mobile think Dawn had used this much data, mainly in a day? | 0:23:08 | 0:23:13 | |
Whilst it is technologically feasible for providers | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
to have access to a breakdown of data, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
I've never known an instance where consumers have been provided access to it. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:22 | |
It's very much your word against the provider's. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
They have a log, they have an itemised bill | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
that says you've used a certain amount of data on a certain date. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
You can only insist that you haven't. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
But it's very, very difficult to prove you haven't used that data. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
Do you know? I'm not sure whether to be happy and sad. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
It seems there may be ways of getting a more detailed breakdown | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
of what kind of data was used, | 0:23:42 | 0:23:43 | |
but it's not something readily available. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
I'd better try and press T Mobile on this one | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
so, time for another call to their public relations team. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
T Mobile have responded to some of the questions I've asked them with a rather lengthy e-mail. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
In a nutshell, they say, hang on, this is Dawn's problem, not ours. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
"We have given a small offer of a goodwill gesture," but that's all. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:06 | |
I'm not really happy with that. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
I'm going to go back and see if I can fight this some more. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
But I tell you what, this is going to be quite a hard battle to win. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:17 | |
This data usage is becoming a common problem. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
I'm hearing a lot of people moaning about it. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
Yes, a lot of people are moaning about it | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
because the industry is doing nothing to stop this happening. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
269 megabytes and a two grand bill? It's just crazy! | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
In my eyes, not fair. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
It's Dominic Littlewood calling from the BBC. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
'Especially as Dawn and T Mobile have no idea how it happened.' | 0:24:37 | 0:24:42 | |
To suddenly say someone's used 269 megabytes | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
is an incredibly large amount. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
You quote here, "This information was provided by the foreign network that provided the service." | 0:24:47 | 0:24:52 | |
Here lies the big issue. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
How do you know that their figures are accurate? | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
I would like some sort of concrete proof from them that they say this amount has been used, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
there's no errors there at all, and no additional charges which they think could be an error. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
'As T-Mobile aren't budging, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
'and what's happened to Dawn is happening to thousands of others Brits travelling outside of Europe, | 0:25:08 | 0:25:13 | |
'with a number of network providers, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
'I want to take it to the top, to see how T Mobile are going to stop this happening in the future.' | 0:25:15 | 0:25:20 | |
Considering that, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
at the moment, you're sticking on this 25% gesture of goodwill, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
we'd like to bring the programme to the attention of Olaf Swantee, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
and ask him if we can have an interview face to face with him on the programme, for broadcast? | 0:25:30 | 0:25:37 | |
Basically, I hit them with just about everything I had. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
Starting with, can I go and meet the CEO, to talk to him about these problems. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
That one normally does help situations | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
because, once the CEO's cage is rattled, | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
quite often things happen which don't, until you rattle it. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
And I've got to keep my fingers crossed on that because | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
it's a very, very touch and go situation. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
HE SOBS | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
Sometimes I love my job, sometimes I hate it. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
I'm not going to lie. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
I'm a bit worried about this case. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
T Mobile are playing hardball, and they've refused to budge on Dawn's 25% discount. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:16 | |
They even sent me the information from the Egyptian service provider that I asked for. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:21 | |
Doesn't matter. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:22 | |
I'm going to up my game, and get Dawn's phone forensically examined | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
to see if I can find out what that data was. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
The report from the provider in Egypt unfortunately doesn't go into any details. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
Once again, all it shows me is the amount of data used, and on which days. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:40 | |
If this is all the information they have, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
maybe a forensics expert can shed some light on Dawn's alleged usage. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
I attached Dawn's phone to my laptop | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
and I extracted all the data from there. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
What I found was that, during her period in Egypt, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
she actually did very little with her phone, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
there was very little activity recorded. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
I found nothing which gave evidence of large data use during that period. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
This is very interesting. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
If the extraction is accurate, | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
how on earth can T Mobile be saying Dawn used all this data? | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
There's a number of apps installed on the phone, I notice. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
This includes Spotify, YouTube, which streams a lot of data in the background. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:21 | |
There's a daily horoscope app installed there as well. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
Now, these were set, I have discovered, | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
to update themselves in the background. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
And it may be something that Dawn didn't realise at the time. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
Not great news, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:36 | |
but it seems unlikely all the apps would have updated on that one day. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
And even if they did, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:41 | |
Ernest from uSwitch told me the amount of data T Mobile claim Dawn downloaded | 0:27:41 | 0:27:46 | |
was a lot to use in a month, let alone 24 hours. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
But I still need more proof. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:51 | |
With data usage, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
you do not get as much information about what caused the data to be used. | 0:27:53 | 0:28:00 | |
With a text message, you see who it was sent to, from, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
the service centre timestamp, the contents of the text message, etc. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
At the moment, the granularity of detail available on data usage is rather lacking, I think. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:13 | |
So, what might have happened to incur Dawn's high charges | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
may have been related to a tiny setting on her phone. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
But the results from my experts are still frustratingly inconclusive, | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
and, if no one really knows, how is it fair to bill Dawn over two grand? | 0:28:23 | 0:28:28 | |
Even Ofcom are pushing legislation | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
to cap and reduce data charges worldwide, | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
so surely T Mobile have to consider this. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
Because Ofcom state, and I'm just going to read you this on my other phone - | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
they want to see more pressure on UK operators to adopt data caps | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
and spending alerts. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
"Mobile phone providers must stop bill shock." | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
That's the headline I've got here. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
'She tells me they're committed to working with Ofcom, | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
'so there's more transparency in their terms and conditions.' | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
Do you know in Dawn's case how many basic e-mails | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
the data you're charging for would mean she'd have to download? | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
According to Ofcom, it's quarter of a million simple e-mails. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:12 | |
It would be a 30 minute video | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
or a four hour radio programme | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
and that's for 250 megabytes - you're charging her for 269. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:21 | |
She's never used more than two megabytes on any day | 0:29:21 | 0:29:26 | |
previous to this. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
She's adamant it's a mistake. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
Do they seriously think Dawn spent her Nile cruise | 0:29:30 | 0:29:34 | |
sending a quarter of a million e-mails? | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
'Regardless of how ridiculous these figures are, | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
'T Mobile confirm they definitely can't give a breakdown | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
'of how the data was used and say there's nothing more they can offer | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
'than a 25% goodwill reduction they already have.' | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
Why don't you cap people's bills like O2? | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
You haven't got the capping in place. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
People's bills come in at £2,200. | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
Is it just a financial reason why you've not put a cap on? | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
OK, if you can't comment on why other companies have put | 0:30:02 | 0:30:06 | |
a cap on, do comment on why you can't. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
'Finally, I'm told they're introducing a new system | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
'for worldwide data roaming charges, | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
'but she can't give me any more information about it | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
'and I seem to have hit a brick wall regarding Dawn's case. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
'So I'm forced, once again, to request feedback from the CEO.' | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
Is Olaf Swantee aware of this? | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
Has he been informed? | 0:30:25 | 0:30:26 | |
Is he prepared to have a meeting with us? | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
'I'm told it's not possible.' | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
We don't have concrete proof that that data's been used, Emily. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
That's the reason I'm digging my heels in. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
Supply me with concrete proof and I'll go away, Emily. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
You won't not hear from me again. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
If not, I'm going to keep fighting on behalf of Dawn, then. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
Bye-bye. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
When I told her | 0:30:45 | 0:30:46 | |
it's quarter of a million basic e-mails, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
she sounded a bit shocked actually. Bit of a silence in the air. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
But you know what, | 0:30:52 | 0:30:54 | |
they're digging their heels in and they're not budging. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
I've told her, if we have to, | 0:30:57 | 0:30:58 | |
we'll take it to the Small Claims Court. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:00 | |
So many of you get in touch giving me | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
the low-down on your consumer nightmares, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
that my little team of helpers here are worked to the bone. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
Mind you, so they should be! | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
My inbox is overflowing and the phone hardly ever stops ringing. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
But sadly, I can't meet every one of you face-to-face, | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
so follow my guide and hopefully you won't get done. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
Right, crack on guys, come on! | 0:31:26 | 0:31:27 | |
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when she discovered her insurance | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
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If I had to go back to 2003 | 0:31:49 | 0:31:53 | |
and meet that adviser again, | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
I would have my questions. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
We naively thought and trusted the adviser. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
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Fiona was convinced their family home would always be secure | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
if anything happened to her or her husband, Colin. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:11 | |
The mortgage adviser was absolutely lovely, explained everything, | 0:32:11 | 0:32:15 | |
offered us everything. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:16 | |
Everything what they offered us - we had the full package. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:21 | |
Fiona is one of around 14 million people in the UK | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
that have a mortgage and many of us get mortgage protection, | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
so if for any reason, the mortgage holders are unable to work | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
due to illness, injury or unemployment, | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
the monthly payments can still be met. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
He said, | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
"God forbid if you walked out of this door now | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
"and you got knocked down, your mortgage will be covered. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
"If you contracted MS, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
"Motor Neurone or cancer | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
"your mortgage would be covered." | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
We signed all the paperwork. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
Everything was in joint names. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
And it appears she made the right initial moves. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
Mortgage Payment Protection Insurance is often, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
but not always, sold to you by your mortgage lender. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
By law, your mortgage provider has to give you 14 days | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
before contacting you about this protection | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
so that you're not rushed into a purchase. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
The cost of your cover will depend on how much | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
your monthly mortgage repayments are. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
If you need to claim, your insurance | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
payments will typically | 0:33:25 | 0:33:26 | |
begin around one month | 0:33:26 | 0:33:27 | |
without a salary, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
either directly to your mortgage | 0:33:29 | 0:33:30 | |
lender or straight to you. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:31 | |
Sadly, six years into their mortgage, Fiona's husband, Colin, | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
was diagnosed with terminal cancer and given four months to live, | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
so Fiona phoned up to make sure their mortgage | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
would be protected when he passed away. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
He says, "Can I get somebody to phone you? | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
"I'll get me manager to phone you." | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
The manager phoned and said, "I'm sorry, you're not covered." | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
I said, "Oh yes, I am." | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
I said, "I'm covered for Motor Neurone, MS and cancer. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:58 | |
"Them are your words, not mine." | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
He says, "You are not, Mrs Allcroft. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
"You haven't got that policy." | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
Fiona and Colin weren't covered for what they thought they were. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:09 | |
Although they would receive payments while Colin was sick, | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
the bank wouldn't continue paying if he died. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
The policy would only pay out in cases of accidental death. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
If you take out mortgage protection, | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
it's very important that you receive your policy documentation | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
and keep it in a safe place for reference. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
The devil's in the detail. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:30 | |
You need to read the small print | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
so you know what is and isn't covered. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
Policies vary and may not cover you | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
for all types of sickness, | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
death and unemployment. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:39 | |
Tragically, Colin died in October 2009, | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
five months after he was diagnosed. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
And all mortgage protection insurance payments stopped. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
I still thought it was a mistake somewhere down the line. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
The mortgage adviser just said it's our own fault for not checking | 0:34:57 | 0:35:02 | |
when we signed all the forms. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
I was devastated. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
Fiona was convinced that when they were sold the policy, | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
the sales adviser told them they were covered for death | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
as the result of an illness and complained, | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
but the bank were insisting the right cover wasn't in place. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
A worried Fiona took her case further. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
If you have exhausted | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
the complaints procedure within the financial company you're in dispute with, | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
you can contact independent bodies. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
The Citizens Advice Bureau, or CAB, offer free, confidential advice | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
on a number of subject areas. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
The CAB took Fiona's case to the Financial Ombudsman's Service. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
The FOS will take an impartial look | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
at the dispute based on the paperwork provided | 0:35:46 | 0:35:48 | |
and deliver a verdict. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
Unfortunately, the FOS ruled against Fiona, because she no longer | 0:35:51 | 0:35:55 | |
had a copy of the original terms of her policy and it seems | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
from the bank's current policy, that they would never have been covered. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
So, Fiona has been left in a financially unstable situation | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
with her family home at risk. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
It was two years last month since I lost my husband. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
My biggest fear now is that I can't pay the mortgage. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
All I'm asking for them to do is when the next person who goes in | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
for a mortgage and has got a family, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
please just give them the right information. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
What we need to remember is that mortgage advisers are there | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
to sell a product, so you need to do your homework | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
and learn from Fiona's difficult lesson. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
She now has to sell her house, as without her husband's income, | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
she can't meet the mortgage repayments. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
Make sure it's the right product for you. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
Can you afford it | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
or could you not afford it if anything happens to you? | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
I wish then, in 2003, | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
we asked these questions, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
but we trusted the mortgage adviser. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
Good advice from Fiona | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
and if you follow my tips as well, | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
hopefully, if you take out mortgage protection | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
and need to claim for any reason, you won't get done. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
Dawn's week-long Egyptian cruise left her with a sinking feeling | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
when she returned home from the holiday to a hefty mobile phone bill | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
from T Mobile to the tune of... | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
..mainly for data roaming charges. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
So far, T Mobile are sticking to their offer | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
of a 25% bill reduction, | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
but there's no proof of how Dawn used the data. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
Even Ofcom recognise an industry-wide problem | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
and say consumers should be protected | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
from data roaming bill shock. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
Last time I spoke to T Mobile, | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
I asked to speak again to their chief executive | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
and it seems I might have ruffled some feathers. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
I've just had an e-mail from T Mobile. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
Listen to this. "Hi, Dom. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
"We have just found out that we were already doing a policy review | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
"on international roaming cases and we have asked the team | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
"to review Ms Christie's case in light of this ongoing review." | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
This is sounding quite positive. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
"We cannot guarantee what this will mean for Ms Christie | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
"but if you are OK to wait just a little longer, | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
"then I think that would be in everyone's best interests. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
"Many thanks. Emily." | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
Now, I think that means | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
T Mobile are about to offer a resolution. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
All phone providers are providing more and more services to us | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
that use data, | 0:38:33 | 0:38:34 | |
but it's the cost of that data that's the issue. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
The real problem here is perception. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
You see, we expect to pay a lot of money for data roaming | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
so we're charged a lot of money for data roaming. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
Someone somewhere is making an awful lot of money out of it | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
and it's at the expense of you, me | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
and the likes of Dawn Christie. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
Let's see what my technology expert thinks | 0:38:55 | 0:38:59 | |
of these astronomical data charges. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
A lot of operators are now finding | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
that their total revenue for data is outstripping that for SMS | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
for example, for the first time, | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
so it's obviously a service which is being used more and more. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
Again, as people go away on holiday, they want to take that with them. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
I imagine international roaming, given that it's a higher mark-up | 0:39:17 | 0:39:21 | |
than domestic roaming, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
would therefore contribute to their profits. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
It seems there's only one way forward. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
I believe that international data charges are too high. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
There doesn't seem to be any technical justification | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
for each megabyte cost being so high | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
and the only way I can see that realistically coming to an end | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
on a global level | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
is with some sort of global regulation. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:50 | |
After all, if Dawn Christie's mystery data use had been capped, | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
it might be a 50 euro battle | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
instead of a £2,000 one. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
But I want to know what happens if global regulations | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
don't happen soon or ever. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
Without regulation being put in place, | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
I can only imagine acceptance | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
of people's desire to use these services | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
and therefore wanting to attract those customers | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
being the driving factor in reducing the overall costs to the consumer. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
Winning business off each other is the only real incentive. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
So it seems mobile providers | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
are making the most of consumer demand for worldwide data roaming. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
But people are starting to wake up | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
and if regulations aren't in place, | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
I think unhappy customers should be reason enough | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
for providers to change their prices and policies. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
And it seems T Mobile are starting to see my point, | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
because they've suddenly e-mailed Dawn Christie with another offer. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:47 | |
I'm back in Bristol to meet Dawn, except this time, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
she's the one who has news for me, not the other way round. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
Dawn, normally at moments like this, I'm here to give you good news, | 0:40:55 | 0:40:59 | |
but there's a reverse of roles now, | 0:40:59 | 0:41:00 | |
because you're going to give me the good news which T Mobile have | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
-gone behind my back and given you directly, haven't they? -Yes, they have. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
-What was it? -They've reduced my bill from 2,300 to £200. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:11 | |
So when they sent you that e-mail, | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
tell me what happened when you read it. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
I read the e-mail and I think I had to read it about three | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
or four times and then when it did | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
finally sink in that they'd reduced it down to £200 | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
I was very excited. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:26 | |
I tell you what. It was not an easy battle. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
I got onto them and I questioned how can someone with your history | 0:41:29 | 0:41:33 | |
where you'd only been downloading one or two megabytes per day, | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
all of a sudden have nearly 260 in one day? | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
1,800 odd pounds just in that particular day. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
I said, "There's got to be a mistake." I started to question what was the data? | 0:41:43 | 0:41:47 | |
And this is quite interesting, because they can't tell you. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
All they can say is, "It's data, we don't know." | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
The important fact is we've highlighted the problem, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
your bill's down to a sensible amount. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
-Happy to pay 200, aren't you? -Yes, I'm happy to pay 200. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
That's probably two months of charges anyway, so. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
T Mobile said... | 0:42:03 | 0:42:04 | |
What have you learned from this? | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
What I've learnt is that if I go abroad, | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
either in the EU or internationally, | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
if I take a smart phone with me that I ensure | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
data roaming is turned off before I leave this country. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
I think that's a really good message to send out there | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
to everybody who might be caught out the same way as you. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
I think that's one thing people should check with their phones | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
when they get them, is if you have to enable data roaming | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
or turn it on or off, you should keep it off | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
and use Wi-Fi wherever possible. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
Good advice! | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
Do you want a job? | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
Don't get done get Dawn? | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
Dawn's not the first person to be caught out like this | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
and she'll certainly not be the last. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
The outcome for her has been good | 0:43:05 | 0:43:06 | |
but it could have been a whole different story. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
Be careful! | 0:43:09 | 0:43:10 | |
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