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I've been fighting your consumer battles for years,

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but there are still companies out there trying to get one over on you.

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They don't care, as long as the cash register's going "ching, ching", that's all they care about.

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Thousands of you are still subject to an array of unfair treatment,

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from poor customer service, to hidden small print, and faulty products.

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What can we do?

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Make a complaint maybe, that will get lost in the communications abyss?

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These companies simply don't seem to care,

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and are causing you, the consumer, a lot of unnecessary stress.

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But, never fear,

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because I'll take them on, to make sure you don't get done.

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And coming up on today's show:

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I tackle the costly issue of mobile phone data roaming for one hapless holidaymaker.

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I contacted T Mobile and was told I had charges of over £2,000,

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so my phone had been restricted.

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Follow my guide to mortgage protection to ensure you don't get stung.

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It was two years last month since I lost my husband.

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And my biggest fear now is I can't pay the mortgage.

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And we test your consumer knowledge on the streets of Britain.

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Interesting! I'll remember that for the future!

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There was a time when, to make a phone call,

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your phone had to be plugged into the wall.

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Nowadays, we've all got mobile phones and you can ring someone from anywhere in the world.

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And not just phone calls either.

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I can check my e-mails in one country...

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..while surfing the net in another.

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I can download movies while on holiday.

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And stream brand new albums down while on a business trip.

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International data roaming is a fantastic idea.

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But it can come with a pretty big bill.

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Oh!

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Ouch.

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And that's just what T Mobile customer, Dawn Christie, from Bristol,

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found out on her return from a week-long trip abroad.

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I went on holiday in September to celebrate a friend's birthday.

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We went to Egypt to do a Nile cruise.

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I took my phone with me.

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And my phone was turned on, but was mainly in my cabin.

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The reason I had it switched on was I wanted to be able

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to receive calls or messages from home, because my father had been seriously ill.

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So I wanted to be in touch with my family.

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A well needed break from work meant Dawn had no desire to use her smart phone much while away.

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I think I sent three or four text messages.

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Other than that, didn't use it at all,

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apart from when the battery ran out on my camera,

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and then I used the camera on the phone.

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After a relaxing holiday,

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Dawn's stress levels were about to rise as soon as she got back home.

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When I returned from Egypt,

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the first thing I did was to ring my mum to find out how my dad was.

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As I tried to make the phone call,

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I got a recorded message from T Mobile, telling me I'd exceeded my limit.

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I thought this was really strange because I'm on a contract

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and I've never exceeded my limit.

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I contacted T Mobile.

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I was told I had charges of over £2,000.

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So my phone had been restricted.

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The charges were for a staggering amount of data use whilst abroad,

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suggesting Dawn had accessed the Internet from her phone while in Egypt.

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I explained to the operator I hadn't used the phone,

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and she said my phone would automatically roam while switched on, which I wasn't aware of.

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Horrified, and being told to complain in writing,

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Dawn sent an e-mail to T Mobile, and soon received a call back from customer services.

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The girl I spoke to was extremely rude.

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Virtually implied I was lying,

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that I had used the phone while I was abroad, which I explained I hadn't,

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and that I didn't know about the data roaming charges.

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She told me I would have known, because the pilot would have told me on the plane. Which he didn't do.

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And I don't think it's the pilot's responsibility to tell me to turn my phone off.

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Dawn was left with an unsupportive response from T Mobile

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and no outgoing mobile phone line at the worst possible moment.

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At the time when I needed my phone the most,

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because my father sadly passed away,

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I wasn't able to use it at all.

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After more calls and e-mails to T Mobile,

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Dawn's phone was eventually reconnected,

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and they offered her a 25% reduction of the total bill.

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But Dawn is adamant she shouldn't have to pay

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for any of the data roaming charges within her bill of £2,209.80,

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as she's positive she didn't use the Internet abroad.

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I feel quite happy that Dom's taken this seriously,

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that he's going to look into this for me.

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I feel quite confident that, with the help of Dominic,

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that something will happen.

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I'll certainly try my best, Dawn.

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But a face-to-face meeting is needed first, I think.

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I've come to Bristol to meet Dawn Christie.

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Her problem particularly interests me because it's one that keeps cropping up in my inbox.

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-Hello.

-Dom, thanks for coming. Come on in.

-My pleasure.

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-Nice day, isn't it?

-Yeah, it is a lovely day.

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'First of all, I want to know how clued up Dawn is about her phone.'

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-Is this the phone?

-Yes.

-Smart phones now, they're brilliant.

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I've got the iPhone. You've got the HTC. They are good.

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-But are you 100% certain what you're doing this?

-No.

-Right.

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And that can be a bit of a problem.

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Do you think there's any chance in the world

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you might have pressed a button, done something, made a mistake,

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and you've genuinely downloaded this huge amount data?

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-No.

-You're adamant on that?

-Yes.

-OK.

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-No one else borrowed your phone, stole it, anything else like that?

-No, it was in my cabin, locked away.

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-Is it password protected?

-Yes, it's password protected.

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-It's not that then, is it?

-No.

-Right.

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-So it does look like you might be innocent?

-Yes. I know I am innocent.

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Have they actually told you what it is that caused that?

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Was it videos, music, radio?

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No, they haven't told me anything.

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Dawn did leave the data roaming function on instead of switching it off,

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but didn't actively access the Internet from her phone.

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And another puzzling thing about the charges

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was the distribution of the data used, which Dawn spotted when the bill came through.

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So, every single day there are some charges for mobile data.

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And, most days, it's small amounts, less than £10.

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Then we get to Monday 26 September, when there's two amounts,

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one for £1,056.

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And another one for £893.89.

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They said it's because my phone was roaming.

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So I was quite shocked to see it was all on one day.

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What?

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So, nearly £2,000 of Dawn's bill

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was for data roaming charges on a single day. That's almost unbelievable.

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I've taken my smart phone to Europe.

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But, when I've been in Europe,

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the first thing I get is a text message from T Mobile

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asking me if I want to purchase a data roaming bundle.

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And, if I purchase it, I can use the Internet. If I don't, I can't use the Internet.

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So I would have assumed that would have been the case, internationally.

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You may have hit the nail on the head, with the crux of the problem.

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There's a certain amount of protection inside the EU.

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Step outside of the EU and, all of a sudden,

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-you can end up in an awful position like this.

-Yeah.

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If you were going to Egypt next week, and were going to apply for a limit,

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a data allowance limit or a cap on your bill, what would you set it at?

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-About £50.

-Yeah. I'm with you on that.

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-Because you don't want any shocking bills.

-No.

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I tell you what would be very interesting. You've been with T Mobile for ten years.

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Do some homework. Find out for me what other companies do about using your phone outside of the EU,

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whether other people put a protection in place.

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-You're definitely 100% positive it's a mistake, aren't you?

-Yes.

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Is it, something that's happened out in Egypt? Is it their mistake, and T Mobile are innocent?

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-Or was it T Mobile's mistake, or was it a combination of both?

-Yeah.

-I'll be on to it.

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I might need to borrow that. Don't use, don't wipe anything on it.

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If that's the case, I'll let you know, because I might need to get that examined.

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-I'll see how I get on.

-OK.

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One last thing. You tell me what you'd like to happen?

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One, it would be good if they could wipe the bill off, or remove those charges. That would make me happy.

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But I think, more importantly to me, is people are made aware.

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Because I don't want somebody else to go abroad,

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to be unsuspecting, and come back to amounts of charges.

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These mobile companies shouldn't get away with it.

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-I agree with you. And I bet the problem's massive once I start investigating it.

-Yes.

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The problem I'm going to have here is,

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if T Mobile are telling Dawn she's used all this data,

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it's going to be very hard for me to prove that she hasn't.

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But, even so, using £1,800 worth in one day, and they haven't even sent her a warning,

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that in itself is wrong. Let's see how I get on.

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Time to make my first phone call to T Mobile.

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Let me tell you,

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data charges for when people are abroad

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are something which we hear tons and tons of complaints about.

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From experience, a lot of these big companies dig their heels in.

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I've got a funny feeling I'm going to end up with a battle on my hands here.

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RING TONE

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Please don't.

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Just say sorry and she can have a refund.

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"Welcome to T Mobile. If you are already a customer,

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"or you're in the process of joining us, press one."

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Unfortunately, getting through to the right department isn't that easy.

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BEEP

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Hash. Puts you through to an operator sooner or later.

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-"Press one..."

-Hash.

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-"If you are already a customer..."

-Hash.

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-"If you're already..."

-Hash.

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-"If you are already..."

-Hash.

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"Sorry, that's not on my list!"

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You're not on my list!

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"Try again later. Bye-bye."

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LINE GOES DEAD

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And, believe it or not, things just get worse.

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Damn it.

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I'm not having a lot of luck here.

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I can't seem to get through to anyone at T Mobile.

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HIGH-PITCHED TONE

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"Sorry you're having a problem."

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PHONE LINE DEAD

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I'm in disbelief that it's taken this amount of time

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to get through to someone I can talk to about Dawn's case.

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But, finally, it seems I might have a number for their PR office.

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I've probably spent 20-25 minutes getting the phone number of someone to speak to at T Mobile.

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Most people would probably have given up at that point.

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I felt like it, but I'm not doing that because I feel even more determined to speak to somebody.

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If this one doesn't work, I suggest you switch your TVs off,

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because I'm going to smash that phone up.

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DIALLING TONE

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'Hurrah. Someone of use has finally answered.'

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Basically, this lady went on holiday last year.

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She's been billed for using 262 megabytes of data allowance,

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literally in one day.

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Now, she's got this bill which is £2,000.

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'I explained the details, and they say they'll get back to me.'

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Now, normally, I fight other people's consumer battles,

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but this time, it's me who feels wronged.

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Time to complain the only way I know. Firm, but fair.

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Well, first of all, I tried your 0845 numbers. Then your 0844 numbers.

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Then your 0800 numbers. Then, I eventually got through to a lady in the Philippines

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and she gave me an 070 number.

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Then I was given a customer service number which is an 01707 number.

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Eventually, I got the number I've dialled you on.

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Literally it's taken me half an hour and plenty of searching on the Internet.

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I tell you what, for a communications company, it was shocking.

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Bye-bye.

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What a breath of relief. Finally, I got to speak to a human being,

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who actually seemed very, very nice.

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This lady said, fine, get all the details over to me,

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and we will see what we can sort out.

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That doesn't mean they're going to rectify this problem,

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it just means they're going to look at it and give me their answers.

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Which, I suspect, initially, is probably going to be,

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she used it, she's going to pay for it.

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Fingers crossed my battle, from now on, will be less taxing.

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Supply me with concrete proof, and that's it, I'll go away, you won't hear from me again.

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If you can't, I'm going to keep fighting on behalf of Dawn.

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Consumer law can be very confusing.

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You've got your Sale of Goods Act.

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Distance selling. Right to return. I could go on and on.

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But knowing just a few of these laws can save you not only money,

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but a lot of hassle as well.

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My research team

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have been out on the streets, armed with questions to put to you,

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the buying public, to find out if you know your consumer rights from your consumer wrongs.

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Today, we've headed to Birmingham, in our quest for spreading knowledge.

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First up:

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"One month, your utility company takes out more money from your bank than your agreed direct debit.

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"When you call to complain, they say your account is in arrears,

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"and they need to cover the shortfall.

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"Can they do this?" Yes, I think they can.

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-No.

-No, they can't, because they've taken more than they agreed.

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Two out of three of you correct.

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If your direct debit is for a fixed amount,

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they are not entitled to take a penny more.

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To clear the outstanding debt,

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they should either continue collecting the monthly payment until it's paid off,

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or write to you to let you know the monthly payments need to be increased.

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No? Right.

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-And know your rights as well.

-Next up:

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"You go out for dinner to a restaurant. The service is terrible.

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"The menu states that a compulsory 12% service charge will be added.

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"Do you have to pay this?"

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Yes, you do, because you've had the service.

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So I guess you have to pay.

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No. Well, I wouldn't.

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And you're correct, madam.

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If the service was poor, then the restaurant have technically broken their contract with you.

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Even if they say it's compulsory, you are well within your rights to refuse to pay it.

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But if the service was satisfactory, and the charge listed as compulsory,

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then you're obliged to pay it.

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-I got one right.

-You did indeed, clever clogs.

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And lastly:

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"You're coming back from a holiday in Greece,

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"and your flight home is overbooked.

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"The airline asks for volunteers to transfer to fly the next day.

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"They offer you a night in a four-star hotel, including a meal and transport back to the airport.

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-"Should you accept it?"

-Yeah, I'd accept that.

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If you weren't that bothered, yeah, I'd accept it. But you don't have to.

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I don't think you have to accept it, but I think I probably would

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because then you get an extra day in Greece in a four-star hotel.

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Correct indeed. You're not obliged to accept the airline's offer.

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Under EU law, there's no limit on compensation for passengers in these circumstances.

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But if you did want to accept the offer, you should push for more benefits,

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like travel vouchers or complimentary trips.

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Interesting. I'll remember that for the future!

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So there's room for improvement.

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But clearly, some of you have listened to me over the years.

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A little bit of know-how can go a long way to stopping you from getting done.

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As a nation, us Brits just love our smart phones.

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At the end of last year, there were ten million of them in the UK.

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Take warning.

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Each one of these has the potential to run up a huge bill when you take it abroad.

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T Mobile customer Dawn got the shock of her life when she returned from holiday

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to find a smart phone had run up a staggering bill of

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£2209.80, mostly for data roaming while away.

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I've gone over the holiday in my mind, over and over again.

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And I never used the Internet, so I have no idea what the charges are.

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T Mobile told Dawn that if her data roaming function was switched on,

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the phone could have been downloading data in the background.

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But still, more than £800 of the charges were for one day only.

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Surely that's not possible?

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While Dawn was in Egypt,

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T Mobile were charging her a massive £7.50 per megabyte.

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Now, given the right conditions,

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a smart phone can download about two megabytes per second.

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That means she could be getting billed £900 per minute

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if the phone is doing maximum downloads.

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All of a sudden, smart phones don't seem that clever, do they?

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My research into T Mobile reveals that,

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when it comes to international roaming on their smart phones,

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they have data packages or boosters available to buy for travel in Europe

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so you know exactly what you're spending.

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By law, but only within Europe,

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service providers now have to cap data bills at 50 euros per month.

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But still around 1.4 million of you have complained to telecoms regulator OFCOM,

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about bill shock, mainly from data roaming charges.

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However, there are changes coming in to protect the consumer in 2014.

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But customers will still be unprotected further afield than Europe.

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So it's up to you, the public, to protect yourselves.

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But the question is, do you know how to?

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Well, I'm about to find out as I hit the high street find out

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how many of you have had similar situations to Dawn's.

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-Do you own a smart phone?

-I do, yes.

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-Do you own a smart phone?

-Yeah, I do.

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-Do you own a smart phone?

-I do, yes, an Android phone.

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-Do you ever take it abroad?

-I do, yes.

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Have you ever had any bills that were rather large, larger than you were expecting?

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Yeah. That once stung situation.

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I've tried it once,

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and when I came back, they charge me around £120 for checking my e-mail.

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How did you feel about having to pay about £120?

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I'll never use my phone abroad again, never ever.

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I was trying to follow cricket scores,

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and also checking my work e-mail on holiday, which I know is a dreadful thing to do.

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OK, so some of you have been stung by expensive data charges.

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Phone operator websites do detail the charges,

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but, for me, that's not really good enough.

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What would you do if you came back from a holiday in Egypt,

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and your mobile phone provider sent you a bill for over £2,000,

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and said you had downloaded more than 250 megabytes of data,

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and you didn't even know about it?

0:19:120:19:13

Oh my goodness, crazy.

0:19:130:19:15

If that happened, I'd be completely lost.

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I wouldn't know where to go, what to do.

0:19:170:19:20

If she hasn't used it, then she shouldn't have to pay.

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But the mobile phone company's saying you have used it, and she's saying, I haven't.

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I still wouldn't pay.

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I think the operators have a moral duty

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to stop people coming back from holidays and having to fork out huge amounts of money on their bill.

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In Dawn's case, two grand.

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And no one can tell her how this has happened.

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All they can tell her is they know she's downloaded that amount of data.

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She's disputing it. But they can't tell her what it is was.

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That seems a little tenuous to me.

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If she's sure she hasn't, particularly in one day,

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you'd hope they'd be a bit more open-minded about it perhaps.

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I agree.

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My chat with the general public confirms that lots of you sympathise with Dawn,

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and have been stung in a similar way.

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But it would be interesting to see exactly what other operators

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have to offer their customers when travelling outside of Europe.

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So I asked Dawn to research the four other major UK providers.

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Hi, yes, I'm looking to get a smart phone,

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because I want a phone where I can use the Internet.

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If I'm travelling abroad,

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what sort of data plans do you have there?

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First up, it's 3.

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He was very cagey about Europe and the rest of the world,

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and just kept advising me, if I was travelling outside of the UK,

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I should buy the sim card for the country I'm travelling in,

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because it's very expensive to use data whilst outside of the UK.

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Hm. Next, Vodafone.

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He was noncommittal on the charges

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because he said they were at the mercy of other mobile phone companies.

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And he again said, if you're abroad, I would either buy a sim card for that country,

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or turn your Internet off and use Wi-Fi.

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Let's see what O2 have to offer.

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She gave me some prices about abroad.

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So, if you're in Europe, they charge you £3 per megabyte.

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The rest of the world is £6 per megabyte. But they will cap.

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At last, one company who capped data use worldwide.

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Lastly, it's a call to Orange, who've recently merged with Dawn's provider, T Mobile.

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If you're travelling outside of Europe,

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you can buy a bundle from them for £15, which is 30 megabytes.

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Once you've used that 30 megabytes, they won't charge you,

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you then have to buy another 30 megabytes.

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That's an awful lot of inconsistencies across the board.

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But thankfully, two countries have plans in place

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which help prevent overspending on data while travelling outside of Europe.

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Had T Mobile implemented a similar system,

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Dawn wouldn't be facing such a hefty bill.

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But I'm still baffled as to how her phone

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ran up this bill in the first place.

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Dawn has no idea, and T Mobile have mentioned data being used automatically in the background.

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What does that mean?

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Time to speak to an independent technical expert.

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In terms of what smart phones can do without our knowledge,

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these bite-sized applications we use,

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instant messaging, maybe going on the Internet, even our e-mails,

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the news and weather widgets, every single feature and function of our smart phones

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often picks up little bits of data, so there's loads of things going on in the background,

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maybe whilst we don't notice.

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Ah. So it's possible Dawn's phone could have been accessing the Internet itself

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with programmes running in the background.

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Maybe that would explain the 269 megabytes of data T-Mobile say she used.

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It's quite a substantial amount of data you'd have to use.

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250 megabytes of data is around 750 web pages,

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maybe 500 e-mails with images.

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So these aren't small amounts we're talking about.

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To use that amount of data in a day, or even a month, is quite a substantial amount.

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750 web pages? I think Dawn would remember visiting that many of them.

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Not what you do when cruising down the River Nile!

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How can T Mobile think Dawn had used this much data, mainly in a day?

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Whilst it is technologically feasible for providers

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to have access to a breakdown of data,

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I've never known an instance where consumers have been provided access to it.

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It's very much your word against the provider's.

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They have a log, they have an itemised bill

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that says you've used a certain amount of data on a certain date.

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You can only insist that you haven't.

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But it's very, very difficult to prove you haven't used that data.

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Do you know? I'm not sure whether to be happy and sad.

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It seems there may be ways of getting a more detailed breakdown

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of what kind of data was used,

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but it's not something readily available.

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I'd better try and press T Mobile on this one

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so, time for another call to their public relations team.

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T Mobile have responded to some of the questions I've asked them with a rather lengthy e-mail.

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In a nutshell, they say, hang on, this is Dawn's problem, not ours.

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"We have given a small offer of a goodwill gesture," but that's all.

0:24:010:24:06

I'm not really happy with that.

0:24:060:24:08

I'm going to go back and see if I can fight this some more.

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But I tell you what, this is going to be quite a hard battle to win.

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This data usage is becoming a common problem.

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I'm hearing a lot of people moaning about it.

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Yes, a lot of people are moaning about it

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because the industry is doing nothing to stop this happening.

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269 megabytes and a two grand bill? It's just crazy!

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In my eyes, not fair.

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It's Dominic Littlewood calling from the BBC.

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'Especially as Dawn and T Mobile have no idea how it happened.'

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To suddenly say someone's used 269 megabytes

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is an incredibly large amount.

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You quote here, "This information was provided by the foreign network that provided the service."

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Here lies the big issue.

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How do you know that their figures are accurate?

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I would like some sort of concrete proof from them that they say this amount has been used,

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there's no errors there at all, and no additional charges which they think could be an error.

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'As T-Mobile aren't budging,

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'and what's happened to Dawn is happening to thousands of others Brits travelling outside of Europe,

0:25:080:25:13

'with a number of network providers,

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'I want to take it to the top, to see how T Mobile are going to stop this happening in the future.'

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Considering that,

0:25:200:25:22

at the moment, you're sticking on this 25% gesture of goodwill,

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we'd like to bring the programme to the attention of Olaf Swantee,

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and ask him if we can have an interview face to face with him on the programme, for broadcast?

0:25:300:25:37

Basically, I hit them with just about everything I had.

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Starting with, can I go and meet the CEO, to talk to him about these problems.

0:25:410:25:44

That one normally does help situations

0:25:440:25:47

because, once the CEO's cage is rattled,

0:25:470:25:50

quite often things happen which don't, until you rattle it.

0:25:500:25:54

And I've got to keep my fingers crossed on that because

0:25:540:25:57

it's a very, very touch and go situation.

0:25:570:25:59

HE SOBS

0:25:590:26:01

Sometimes I love my job, sometimes I hate it.

0:26:010:26:04

I'm not going to lie.

0:26:060:26:08

I'm a bit worried about this case.

0:26:080:26:10

T Mobile are playing hardball, and they've refused to budge on Dawn's 25% discount.

0:26:100:26:16

They even sent me the information from the Egyptian service provider that I asked for.

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Doesn't matter.

0:26:210:26:22

I'm going to up my game, and get Dawn's phone forensically examined

0:26:220:26:25

to see if I can find out what that data was.

0:26:250:26:28

The report from the provider in Egypt unfortunately doesn't go into any details.

0:26:310:26:35

Once again, all it shows me is the amount of data used, and on which days.

0:26:350:26:40

If this is all the information they have,

0:26:400:26:42

maybe a forensics expert can shed some light on Dawn's alleged usage.

0:26:420:26:46

I attached Dawn's phone to my laptop

0:26:460:26:49

and I extracted all the data from there.

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What I found was that, during her period in Egypt,

0:26:510:26:54

she actually did very little with her phone,

0:26:540:26:58

there was very little activity recorded.

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I found nothing which gave evidence of large data use during that period.

0:27:000:27:04

This is very interesting.

0:27:040:27:06

If the extraction is accurate,

0:27:060:27:09

how on earth can T Mobile be saying Dawn used all this data?

0:27:090:27:13

There's a number of apps installed on the phone, I notice.

0:27:130:27:16

This includes Spotify, YouTube, which streams a lot of data in the background.

0:27:160:27:21

There's a daily horoscope app installed there as well.

0:27:210:27:25

Now, these were set, I have discovered,

0:27:250:27:28

to update themselves in the background.

0:27:280:27:31

And it may be something that Dawn didn't realise at the time.

0:27:310:27:35

Not great news,

0:27:350:27:36

but it seems unlikely all the apps would have updated on that one day.

0:27:360:27:40

And even if they did,

0:27:400:27:41

Ernest from uSwitch told me the amount of data T Mobile claim Dawn downloaded

0:27:410:27:46

was a lot to use in a month, let alone 24 hours.

0:27:460:27:50

But I still need more proof.

0:27:500:27:51

With data usage,

0:27:510:27:53

you do not get as much information about what caused the data to be used.

0:27:530:28:00

With a text message, you see who it was sent to, from,

0:28:000:28:03

the service centre timestamp, the contents of the text message, etc.

0:28:030:28:07

At the moment, the granularity of detail available on data usage is rather lacking, I think.

0:28:070:28:13

So, what might have happened to incur Dawn's high charges

0:28:130:28:16

may have been related to a tiny setting on her phone.

0:28:160:28:20

But the results from my experts are still frustratingly inconclusive,

0:28:200:28:23

and, if no one really knows, how is it fair to bill Dawn over two grand?

0:28:230:28:28

Even Ofcom are pushing legislation

0:28:310:28:33

to cap and reduce data charges worldwide,

0:28:330:28:35

so surely T Mobile have to consider this.

0:28:350:28:38

Because Ofcom state, and I'm just going to read you this on my other phone -

0:28:380:28:41

they want to see more pressure on UK operators to adopt data caps

0:28:410:28:45

and spending alerts.

0:28:450:28:48

"Mobile phone providers must stop bill shock."

0:28:480:28:51

That's the headline I've got here.

0:28:510:28:53

'She tells me they're committed to working with Ofcom,

0:28:530:28:56

'so there's more transparency in their terms and conditions.'

0:28:560:28:59

Do you know in Dawn's case how many basic e-mails

0:28:590:29:03

the data you're charging for would mean she'd have to download?

0:29:030:29:07

According to Ofcom, it's quarter of a million simple e-mails.

0:29:070:29:12

It would be a 30 minute video

0:29:120:29:14

or a four hour radio programme

0:29:140:29:17

and that's for 250 megabytes - you're charging her for 269.

0:29:170:29:21

She's never used more than two megabytes on any day

0:29:210:29:26

previous to this.

0:29:260:29:28

She's adamant it's a mistake.

0:29:280:29:30

Do they seriously think Dawn spent her Nile cruise

0:29:300:29:34

sending a quarter of a million e-mails?

0:29:340:29:36

'Regardless of how ridiculous these figures are,

0:29:360:29:40

'T Mobile confirm they definitely can't give a breakdown

0:29:400:29:43

'of how the data was used and say there's nothing more they can offer

0:29:430:29:46

'than a 25% goodwill reduction they already have.'

0:29:460:29:50

Why don't you cap people's bills like O2?

0:29:510:29:54

You haven't got the capping in place.

0:29:540:29:57

People's bills come in at £2,200.

0:29:570:29:59

Is it just a financial reason why you've not put a cap on?

0:29:590:30:02

OK, if you can't comment on why other companies have put

0:30:020:30:06

a cap on, do comment on why you can't.

0:30:060:30:08

'Finally, I'm told they're introducing a new system

0:30:080:30:11

'for worldwide data roaming charges,

0:30:110:30:13

'but she can't give me any more information about it

0:30:130:30:16

'and I seem to have hit a brick wall regarding Dawn's case.

0:30:160:30:19

'So I'm forced, once again, to request feedback from the CEO.'

0:30:190:30:23

Is Olaf Swantee aware of this?

0:30:230:30:25

Has he been informed?

0:30:250:30:26

Is he prepared to have a meeting with us?

0:30:260:30:29

'I'm told it's not possible.'

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We don't have concrete proof that that data's been used, Emily.

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That's the reason I'm digging my heels in.

0:30:340:30:36

Supply me with concrete proof and I'll go away, Emily.

0:30:360:30:39

You won't not hear from me again.

0:30:390:30:41

If not, I'm going to keep fighting on behalf of Dawn, then.

0:30:410:30:43

Bye-bye.

0:30:430:30:45

When I told her

0:30:450:30:46

it's quarter of a million basic e-mails,

0:30:460:30:49

she sounded a bit shocked actually. Bit of a silence in the air.

0:30:490:30:52

But you know what,

0:30:520:30:54

they're digging their heels in and they're not budging.

0:30:540:30:57

I've told her, if we have to,

0:30:570:30:58

we'll take it to the Small Claims Court.

0:30:580:31:00

So many of you get in touch giving me

0:31:070:31:09

the low-down on your consumer nightmares,

0:31:090:31:11

that my little team of helpers here are worked to the bone.

0:31:110:31:14

Mind you, so they should be!

0:31:140:31:16

My inbox is overflowing and the phone hardly ever stops ringing.

0:31:160:31:19

But sadly, I can't meet every one of you face-to-face,

0:31:190:31:22

so follow my guide and hopefully you won't get done.

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My biggest fear now is that I can't pay the mortgage.

0:36:120:36:16

All I'm asking for them to do is when the next person who goes in

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for a mortgage and has got a family,

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please just give them the right information.

0:36:230:36:27

What we need to remember is that mortgage advisers are there

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to sell a product, so you need to do your homework

0:36:310:36:34

and learn from Fiona's difficult lesson.

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She now has to sell her house, as without her husband's income,

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she can't meet the mortgage repayments.

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Make sure it's the right product for you.

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Can you afford it

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or could you not afford it if anything happens to you?

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I wish then, in 2003,

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we asked these questions,

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but we trusted the mortgage adviser.

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Good advice from Fiona

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and if you follow my tips as well,

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hopefully, if you take out mortgage protection

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and need to claim for any reason, you won't get done.

0:37:040:37:08

Dawn's week-long Egyptian cruise left her with a sinking feeling

0:37:130:37:16

when she returned home from the holiday to a hefty mobile phone bill

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from T Mobile to the tune of...

0:37:200:37:22

..mainly for data roaming charges.

0:37:240:37:26

So far, T Mobile are sticking to their offer

0:37:260:37:29

of a 25% bill reduction,

0:37:290:37:32

but there's no proof of how Dawn used the data.

0:37:320:37:35

Even Ofcom recognise an industry-wide problem

0:37:350:37:38

and say consumers should be protected

0:37:380:37:40

from data roaming bill shock.

0:37:400:37:43

Last time I spoke to T Mobile,

0:37:430:37:45

I asked to speak again to their chief executive

0:37:450:37:48

and it seems I might have ruffled some feathers.

0:37:480:37:51

I've just had an e-mail from T Mobile.

0:37:510:37:54

Listen to this. "Hi, Dom.

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"We have just found out that we were already doing a policy review

0:37:570:38:01

"on international roaming cases and we have asked the team

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"to review Ms Christie's case in light of this ongoing review."

0:38:040:38:08

This is sounding quite positive.

0:38:080:38:11

"We cannot guarantee what this will mean for Ms Christie

0:38:110:38:14

"but if you are OK to wait just a little longer,

0:38:140:38:17

"then I think that would be in everyone's best interests.

0:38:170:38:20

"Many thanks. Emily."

0:38:200:38:22

Now, I think that means

0:38:220:38:24

T Mobile are about to offer a resolution.

0:38:240:38:27

All phone providers are providing more and more services to us

0:38:290:38:33

that use data,

0:38:330:38:34

but it's the cost of that data that's the issue.

0:38:340:38:37

The real problem here is perception.

0:38:390:38:41

You see, we expect to pay a lot of money for data roaming

0:38:410:38:43

so we're charged a lot of money for data roaming.

0:38:430:38:47

Someone somewhere is making an awful lot of money out of it

0:38:470:38:50

and it's at the expense of you, me

0:38:500:38:53

and the likes of Dawn Christie.

0:38:530:38:55

Let's see what my technology expert thinks

0:38:550:38:59

of these astronomical data charges.

0:38:590:39:01

A lot of operators are now finding

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that their total revenue for data is outstripping that for SMS

0:39:040:39:08

for example, for the first time,

0:39:080:39:10

so it's obviously a service which is being used more and more.

0:39:100:39:13

Again, as people go away on holiday, they want to take that with them.

0:39:130:39:17

I imagine international roaming, given that it's a higher mark-up

0:39:170:39:21

than domestic roaming,

0:39:210:39:23

would therefore contribute to their profits.

0:39:230:39:25

It seems there's only one way forward.

0:39:250:39:28

I believe that international data charges are too high.

0:39:280:39:32

There doesn't seem to be any technical justification

0:39:320:39:36

for each megabyte cost being so high

0:39:360:39:39

and the only way I can see that realistically coming to an end

0:39:390:39:43

on a global level

0:39:430:39:45

is with some sort of global regulation.

0:39:450:39:50

After all, if Dawn Christie's mystery data use had been capped,

0:39:500:39:53

it might be a 50 euro battle

0:39:530:39:56

instead of a £2,000 one.

0:39:560:39:58

But I want to know what happens if global regulations

0:39:580:40:00

don't happen soon or ever.

0:40:000:40:03

Without regulation being put in place,

0:40:030:40:06

I can only imagine acceptance

0:40:060:40:09

of people's desire to use these services

0:40:090:40:11

and therefore wanting to attract those customers

0:40:110:40:14

being the driving factor in reducing the overall costs to the consumer.

0:40:140:40:18

Winning business off each other is the only real incentive.

0:40:180:40:21

So it seems mobile providers

0:40:210:40:24

are making the most of consumer demand for worldwide data roaming.

0:40:240:40:27

But people are starting to wake up

0:40:270:40:29

and if regulations aren't in place,

0:40:290:40:31

I think unhappy customers should be reason enough

0:40:310:40:34

for providers to change their prices and policies.

0:40:340:40:37

And it seems T Mobile are starting to see my point,

0:40:390:40:42

because they've suddenly e-mailed Dawn Christie with another offer.

0:40:420:40:47

I'm back in Bristol to meet Dawn, except this time,

0:40:470:40:50

she's the one who has news for me, not the other way round.

0:40:500:40:53

Dawn, normally at moments like this, I'm here to give you good news,

0:40:550:40:59

but there's a reverse of roles now,

0:40:590:41:00

because you're going to give me the good news which T Mobile have

0:41:000:41:04

-gone behind my back and given you directly, haven't they?

-Yes, they have.

0:41:040:41:07

-What was it?

-They've reduced my bill from 2,300 to £200.

0:41:070:41:11

So when they sent you that e-mail,

0:41:110:41:13

tell me what happened when you read it.

0:41:130:41:16

I read the e-mail and I think I had to read it about three

0:41:160:41:18

or four times and then when it did

0:41:180:41:22

finally sink in that they'd reduced it down to £200

0:41:220:41:24

I was very excited.

0:41:240:41:26

I tell you what. It was not an easy battle.

0:41:260:41:29

I got onto them and I questioned how can someone with your history

0:41:290:41:33

where you'd only been downloading one or two megabytes per day,

0:41:330:41:36

all of a sudden have nearly 260 in one day?

0:41:360:41:40

1,800 odd pounds just in that particular day.

0:41:400:41:43

I said, "There's got to be a mistake." I started to question what was the data?

0:41:430:41:47

And this is quite interesting, because they can't tell you.

0:41:470:41:49

All they can say is, "It's data, we don't know."

0:41:490:41:51

The important fact is we've highlighted the problem,

0:41:510:41:54

your bill's down to a sensible amount.

0:41:540:41:56

-Happy to pay 200, aren't you?

-Yes, I'm happy to pay 200.

0:41:560:41:59

That's probably two months of charges anyway, so.

0:41:590:42:02

T Mobile said...

0:42:030:42:04

What have you learned from this?

0:42:250:42:28

What I've learnt is that if I go abroad,

0:42:280:42:31

either in the EU or internationally,

0:42:310:42:33

if I take a smart phone with me that I ensure

0:42:330:42:36

data roaming is turned off before I leave this country.

0:42:360:42:39

I think that's a really good message to send out there

0:42:390:42:41

to everybody who might be caught out the same way as you.

0:42:410:42:44

I think that's one thing people should check with their phones

0:42:440:42:46

when they get them, is if you have to enable data roaming

0:42:460:42:49

or turn it on or off, you should keep it off

0:42:490:42:51

and use Wi-Fi wherever possible.

0:42:510:42:53

Good advice!

0:42:530:42:55

Do you want a job?

0:42:550:42:57

Don't get done get Dawn?

0:42:570:42:59

Dawn's not the first person to be caught out like this

0:43:000:43:03

and she'll certainly not be the last.

0:43:030:43:05

The outcome for her has been good

0:43:050:43:06

but it could have been a whole different story.

0:43:060:43:09

Be careful!

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