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I've been battling your consumer rights for years, but some companies still aren't getting the message. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
The main aim and goal for big companies is profit. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
They don't care about the customers. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:10 | |
Day in, day out, thousands of you are still being taken for a ride, | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
and it's always the same old things - | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
shoddy products, small print and bad customer service. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
They use words which an ordinary person wouldn't understand. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
Some firms are driving you barmy, causing you sleepless nights | 0:00:24 | 0:00:28 | |
and making you feel like you're the one to blame. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
But don't despair, | 0:00:31 | 0:00:32 | |
cos I'm here to take up the fight to make sure that you don't get done. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:37 | |
Coming up on today's show... | 0:00:57 | 0:00:58 | |
all that glitters is gold. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
Unless, of course, it gets stolen | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
and your insurance company refuses to pay out. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
We were just gutted, this is how the insurers were treating us, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:10 | |
you're left in the lurch, high and dry. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
How one woman's kitchen calamity turned her into a consumer champion. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:17 | |
My blood was rising, and I thought, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
"I'm going to have to take them to court." | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
And my team hits the streets | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
to find out how consumer savvy you really are. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
I'm wrong! I thought I might be on that! | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
Most of us have got insurance. "Why?" I hear you ask. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:39 | |
Well, should our valuables | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
be lost or stolen, you can make a claim on your policy. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:46 | |
And you should get the cash - lovely - | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
to buy replacements. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
But be warned, because not every insurance claim has a happy ending. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:57 | |
And one Bradford-based couple know this only too well. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
Meet Sadiq Ali, a hardworking family man, and his wife, Mohima. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:12 | |
When it comes to insurance, Sadiq is no slouch. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
He makes sure that he has building and contents cover | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
to protect his family from loss or damage. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
At least you know then that if lightning strikes or whatever, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:25 | |
that you won't be on the street, you won't be homeless, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
and your goods and things will be replaced. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
Like a lot of people, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
Sadiq completed his renewal questionnaire online. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
He chose a total of £30,000 worth of cover in August 2010 | 0:02:35 | 0:02:40 | |
with insurance company esure. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
So far, so good, but what about expensive individual items | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
such as Sadiq's wife's jewellery? Would that need extra cover? | 0:02:47 | 0:02:53 | |
I think there was a question there, something about, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
"Do you have any particular items, high risk, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
that are worth more than £1,500?" | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
Certainly, for our jewellery, we didn't think anything was worth | 0:03:01 | 0:03:06 | |
more than that, so we just put "no" for that question. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
As far as we're concerned, once we completed the process | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
and it's done and it's paid for, that's it. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
I think, "That's it, I'm covered." | 0:03:17 | 0:03:18 | |
But Sadiq's newly-bought peace of mind was about to be shattered, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:23 | |
and the family thrown into turmoil, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:24 | |
when they arrived home after an enjoyable Sunday out to find that | 0:03:24 | 0:03:29 | |
thieves had broken into their home and turned it upside-down. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
They'd been through the bedrooms, all the drawers, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
under the mattresses, behind the picture frames. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
They'd literally ransacked the whole house, from top to bottom. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
It was a bitter blow, and obviously hit the family hard. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
You just felt sick to your gut, really, that somebody had | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
invaded your home, gone through your personal belongings. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
The thieves had been heart-breakingly thorough, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
and had stolen everything of value. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
Including the boys' games consoles, family laptops and, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
most upsettingly of all, Sadiq's wife Mohima's precious collection | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
of gold jewellery. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:09 | |
The one thing that helped to keep up the family spirits was | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
the thought that at least they were insured. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
We thought, obviously, "That's it, hopefully everything'll get replaced | 0:04:15 | 0:04:21 | |
"and it'll compensate for the event that's happened." | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
But despite assurances from their insurance company, esure, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
that their claim would be processed within ten days, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
the family was left hanging on for nearly five and a half months | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
until finally the company came back with a bombshell. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
They turned round and said to us, "Sorry, we're voiding your insurance | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
"from the inception date because you're underinsured." | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
Crikey, that's harsh. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:51 | |
esure had stated that the value of Mohima's gold jewellery was | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
way above the amount Sadiq had quoted - | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
therefore he was underinsured. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
But voiding his insurance policy meant that the company had | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
washed their hands of any responsibility to settle his claim. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
This was a cruel knockback. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
We were just gutted, this is how the insurers were treating us, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:15 | |
left in the lurch, high and dry. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
It sounds to me as though they've been done over by the burglars | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
and now, potentially, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:22 | |
they'd been done over by their insurance company. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
A double whammy, or what? Which is why... | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
I've come to Bradford to meet Sadiq and Mohima. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
I can tell you what, it's beautiful, but it ain't half cold. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
They've been burgled, put a claim in with their insurance company. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
For one reason or another, they're not getting a payout. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
I'm here to find out why. They're in a bit of a pickle, really. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
-Right, Dom, this is my wife, Mohima. -Lovely to meet you. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
I've never been burgled, but the thing that must be | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
one of the most upsetting elements of it is | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
the violation of your personal space. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
How did you feel about that? | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
Especially you, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:01 | |
-being a mum and worrying about the kids and things. -Devastated. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
I think for a few days after we did get burgled, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
every time I'm in the kitchen, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
I were looking out the window, and if I saw someone going by, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:15 | |
especially a young lad or something, I thought, "They've come back." | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
The robbery clearly struck at the very heart of the family, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
and nowhere more so than the theft of Mohima's jewellery. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
How personal was all that stuff? | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
Very, cos my husband bought it over the years. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
And at that time, you weren't working. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
The first job you got, so with your first wage. You had to save. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:42 | |
It'd be nice, I think it'd give my wife the confidence again | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
and happiness inside... | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
-Yeah. -..to be able to replace it, but obviously we can't afford to. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
And that's exactly where you'd expect your insurance company | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
to come to your rescue. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:57 | |
Sadiq bitterly remembers those first few days | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
after originally putting in the claim. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
The impression they gave me was that it would be fairly simple, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:08 | |
straightforward, that they would look at processing our claim | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
and paying for our losses. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:12 | |
However, in the weeks and months after their claim, | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
esure informed the family that they were voiding their policy, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:20 | |
and it all came down to the fact that | 0:07:20 | 0:07:21 | |
Mohima's gold had soared in price, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
way more than Sadiq had ever thought possible. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
esure told them they had been grossly underinsured. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
What esure turned around and said was that, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
because the jewellery was worth about £13,000, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
instead of what we thought it was, about 4,000, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
that meant that they only allowed 10,000 for your high-risk items, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:45 | |
and jewellery's classed as high-risk. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
So they said, because jewellery's 13,000, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
it goes over the one third that they allow, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
so they said they wouldn't have covered us, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
had they known the true value of our high-risk items. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
Right, now, you just said there that | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
you thought your gold jewellery was worth about four grand-ish, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
but they said it's now worth 13,000. There's a huge difference there. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
You presumably were originally only expecting four grand back, were you? | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
Yeah. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:17 | |
What have they done, then? | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
By the sounds of it, they've valued your gold probably by its weight | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
and at today's market value. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
And there lies the problem. The very nugget of the issue. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
Sadiq bought the last of | 0:08:31 | 0:08:32 | |
his wife's jewellery five years ago. At that time, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
he thought all her jewellery was worth just over £2,000. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
The price of gold has rocketed since then, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
making the jewellery now worth a whopping £13,500. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
Did you not think about renewing or having it valued and getting it | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
up to date so that people... you knew what it would cost to replace it. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
We didn't think it'd jump that much. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
We doubled it, and that's what we thought it was worth. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
We did, we thought, "Yeah, it's worth probably double what we paid for it." | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
-That's purely just you guessing, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
Sadly. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
So, the insurance company have got, technically, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
a bit of an argument there, haven't they? You were underinsured. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
Now, one of the things which insurance companies have to do, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
they have to look at whether somebody - | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
namely you, their client - | 0:09:21 | 0:09:22 | |
has been negligent or dishonest, or, basically, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
you just made a small mistake and you weren't aware of it. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:30 | |
They've obviously assumed for some reason that you haven't made | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
a small mistake and they're going to allow you to get away with it - | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
they've looked at this and thought, "No, you haven't done it right - | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
"your problem, we wouldn't have insured you." | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
They did say in the letter that they accepted that we weren't deliberate | 0:09:41 | 0:09:46 | |
in how we misrepresented the value of the jewellery. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
They accepted that, but they said, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
regardless of that, it was negligent of us not to know the value. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:58 | |
As far as you can remember, have esure ever said to you, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:03 | |
"You might be underinsured because the value of gold has gone up - | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
"get any jewellery, any valuable items reinsured, revalued"? | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
No, nothing like that. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
Sadiq clearly did everything he thought | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
he should to be able to claim on his insurance, | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
and although I never would have expected a big insurance company | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
to have a heart of gold, I would certainly expect them to play fair. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
Not only were esure refusing to pay out on their gold, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
computers and their sons' game consoles, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
their decision to void the policy has had even worse ramifications. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:37 | |
-All of a sudden, you've got nothing now. -Nothing. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
What other knock-on effects has that had? | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
Well, the fact that they voided us means that we have to tell | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
other insurers, and I've been out to try and get other insurance | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
for the building and the contents and people say no. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
The insurers will quote you, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:53 | |
but when you tell them that you've been voided, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
the underwriting department refuse to provide cover. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
-Ouch. Not looking good, is it? -No. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
You can say that again. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:03 | |
esure has not only left Sadiq and his family uninsured, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
but what's worse, uninsurable. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
While I get on their case to see if esure could have done better | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
and get them to look again at his claim, | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
I've asked Sadiq to do some research. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
The ballooning price of gold is | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
clearly one of the areas to investigate, so I've asked him | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
to find out the price of gold per gram today, | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
the price when the policy was taken out | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
and also the price when Sadiq bought the jewellery, | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
so that I can get a grip on what's been going on. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
By calling me in, what were you hoping to achieve by this? | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
We were hoping that you could fight our cause | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
and get the insurers to at least reinstate our insurance. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
I can't make any promises. You know that. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
I don't know if there's any areas there | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
which I can find out and dig out | 0:11:53 | 0:11:54 | |
and try and improve on. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:55 | |
The insurance company might be 100% right, | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
-but I'll certainly have a good try for you. -Mmm-hmm. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
People have this impression that insurance companies do | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
everything within their power to avoid paying out. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
I don't believe that. I think as long as you've done your job, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
insurance companies will pay out. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
In this case, though, Sadiq and Mohima have got a bit of a problem. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
There's things in there which aren't quite right, | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
and as a result of that, they're not getting paid out, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
and they've lost a lot of valuable equipment. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
It's a bit of a mess, but I'm going to do everything I can | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
to see if I can to get that ruling overturned. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
Now, before I get stuck into this case, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
it always pays to find out just what I'm dealing with. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
esure was founded in 2000 | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
as an internet and telephone-based insurance company | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
with just 50 staff, and within less than five years became | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
one of the fastest-growing insurers in the UK. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
Well known for their high-profile marketing campaign, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
spawning the phrase, "Calm down, dear, it's only a commercial," | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
esure's stated goal is to offer superior service. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:59 | |
I think it's high time I put that to the test. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
Right, Sadiq's claim may have been stopped - let's see | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
if we can start it again. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:07 | |
'So, superior customer service, eh? Let's find out. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
'I get put through to esure's claims department.' | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
My name's Dominic Littlewood, I'm calling from the BBC. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
It's about a policy claim that's going through with esure | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
at the moment, and I just wondered | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
if I could speak to somebody about that. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
'After handing over Sadiq's policy details and explaining that | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
'I'm now on the case and have Sadiq's permission | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
'to handle it exclusively, | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
'they say they'll have to get someone to call me back.' Bye-bye. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
Not a particularly helpful first call, | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
but sometimes you mention your name and people go, "Ooh, scared." | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
Anyhow, I've got some details there, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
but I've got to start faxing over details to them. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
Not a great start, but at least it's under way. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
But will this case come crashing down even before I can build it up | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
when esure drop a bombshell? | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
'There is absolutely no two ways about it, | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
'he did not tell us the truth about what was in his house.' | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
Now, consumer law can be very confusing. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
You've got your Sales of Goods Act, distance selling, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
right to return - I could go on, but knowing just a few of these laws can | 0:14:17 | 0:14:23 | |
save you not only money but a lot of hassle as well. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
My research team have been out on the streets, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
armed with questions to put to you, the buying public, to find out | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
if you know your consumer rights from your consumer wrongs. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
Today, we've hit the shopping centres | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
in our quest for spreading knowledge. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
The first question for you lot... | 0:14:45 | 0:14:46 | |
"While in the shop, another customer carelessly knocks a heavy item | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
"onto your feet, hurting you quite badly. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
"Who's responsible for the accident?" | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
The other customer. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:58 | |
If the store's not at fault at all, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
then the customer would be responsible. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
I'd say the customer. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:04 | |
I think I'm wrong now. I think the store are liable, | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
cos I think they're always liable, that's why they have insurance. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
Correct. But only one out of three, though. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
Yeah, the store are always liable. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
The shop has a duty of care | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
to ensure the safety of everyone on the premises. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
Supervisors and managers have an obligation to deal with | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
inappropriate behaviour by its customers. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
The shop is liable if the trip, slip or fall could have been prevented. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
Staying in the stores, next up, the wrong size. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:35 | |
"You return a jumper to a clothes store and it's the wrong size. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
"The shop assistant tries to give you vouchers but you prefer cash. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
"Can you insist on a cash refund?" | 0:15:42 | 0:15:43 | |
I imagine, again, it depends on the small print on the receipt. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
It's a difficult one. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
If you paid cash for it, yes, they should pay cash back. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
I said if you've got the receipt... | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
If you've got the receipt, yes, you can. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
-Oops. Three out of three wrong. -Really? | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
Really indeed. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
The retailer is well within their rights to give you vouchers | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
to spend in store because the onus is on you | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
to make sure that the item fits before leaving the premises. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
The shop may refund in cash, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
but this would be a goodwill gesture on their part. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
-So, try it on before you leave? -Yeah. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
Good thinking! | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
Too right, sir. And finally, the dodgy dongle. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
"You have wireless internet coverage on your laptop through a dongle. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
"When you move house, you can't get internet coverage | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
"in the new location. You cancel with the provider | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
"but they bill you for breaking the contract and they charge you." | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
No, cos it's their fault if you don't get service in their area. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
I'm not too sure. I think they could charge you | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
if you're still under contract, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
because you can't break the contract until a certain date. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
If you tell them that you're going to move, then they should make sure | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
that you can still receive it from where you are, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
where you've moved to. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:58 | |
-If not, then they shouldn't be able to bill you. -Two out of three wrong. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:05 | |
I'm wrong? I thought I might be on that! | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
I'd have tried to wiggle out of it, anyway! | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
If you sign a contract, you're obliged to pay for the duration | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
of this contract, even if you move out of the service area. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
If you're ending a contract early, you may have to pay the sum | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
totalling the remaining payments to the end of the contract. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:28 | |
Some companies may offer an alternative or cancel the contract, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
but only as a goodwill gesture. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
Well, you lot, I think you all need to brush up on your consumer rights. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:39 | |
Trust me, knowing them will stop you getting done. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
I'm looking into the case of Sadiq Ali, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
whose family home was ransacked by burglars in April 2011. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
Sadiq took comfort in the fact that his insurance would cover the loss. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
But esure took one look at Sadiq's claim and branded it void, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
saying that his wife's jewellery wasn't covered | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
because the price of gold had risen so much. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
And even worse, having their policy voided also meant that | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
their reputation was tarnished | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
and other insurance companies wouldn't touch them. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
We might not have bothered paying the premium to the insurance company. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
"Calm down" might have been the motto for this insurance company, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
but they've left Sadiq and his family anything but calm with their heavy-handed approach. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
Sadiq has appealed esure's decision | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
to the Financial Ombudsman Service, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
and while he waits for their findings, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
I'm determined to keep on the case. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
For me, this case revolves around one thing - | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
the changing price of gold. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
When Sadiq took out his insurance policy, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
he covered himself for £30,000 worth of contents cover. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:57 | |
Now, that consisted of £20,000 for low-risk items, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
represented by these two balloons... | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
..and £10,000 for high-risk items, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
represented by this gold balloon. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
However, after the burglary, Sadiq realised to his cost | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
that the price of gold had shot up considerably. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
Which meant Sadiq was actually underinsured. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
Now, the insurance company then voided his claim and cancelled | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
his insurance policy, which meant he had no insurance at all. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
That is a pretty harsh price to pay for a simple mistake. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
When you insure your possessions, most of us know that | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
they're going to go up or down in value, but in the event of a claim, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
quite often insurance companies will give you the replacement cost. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
So, I've asked Sadiq to speak to some experts to find out | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
just how much gold has gone up over the past few years. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
This is interesting. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:08 | |
I've found a website here that shows the price of gold | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
for the past decade. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
You look back here, it's showing about 2002, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
the price of gold was about £7, £8 a gram. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
And in 2008, roughly to the second bit of gold that we bought, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:27 | |
it's showing about £10 a gram. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
So far, so good, but what about now? | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
Time to find out from a local jeweller | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
just what the cost would be today. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
£35.62, plus VAT. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:44 | |
Crikey, that's quadrupled in just four years. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
So, no wonder the jewellery that Sadiq insured | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
for four and a half grand is, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
according to esure, now worth over 15 grand. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
Who'd have thought it? | 0:20:54 | 0:20:55 | |
Certainly not Sadiq, not me, and probably not half the country. | 0:20:55 | 0:21:00 | |
Surely you need to be a gold expert to stay on top of | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
that kind of pricing roller coaster. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
Unless people have been studying the bullion market for whatever reason, | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
I think it's unlikely that the general public will appreciate | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
exactly how much gold has gone up in the last ten years. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
And so therefore, they won't have realised | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
how much their jewellery has increased in value. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
If you have a treasured piece of jewellery | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
that you bought in, say, 1980, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
and you are relying on the original purchase receipt, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
you cannot expect an insurer to pay out in a post-loss situation | 0:21:30 | 0:21:35 | |
on just the information on that receipt. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
You really do need to have an up-to-date valuation. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
There's always been a problem with people not having | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
their jewellery insured properly and valued properly, | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
but because of the rocketing bullion prices over the last ten years, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
we've seen an extraordinary number of cases | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
of people being so grossly underinsured. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
I would say that it's probably not an exaggeration to state that | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
I see it leaves two people a day in my working life who are undervalued. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:06 | |
Sadiq made a big mistake when he took his insurance out. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
He didn't realise how much the price of gold had gone up | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
in the last ten years, and I've got a funny feeling | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
it's a very common mistake. Let's find out. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
Let me give you that lump of gold there. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
Now, ten years ago, if you bought that, it'd cost you £1,000 | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
-and you insured it for £1,000. -Right. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
-Right? Lucky girl, aren't you? -Yeah. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
-But yesterday, you got burgled, the gold was stolen. -Oh. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:33 | |
How much would you expect your insurance company to pay you out? | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
Probably the same amount, hopefully. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
-1,000? -Yeah. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:40 | |
You see, it's now worth five grand. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
-So... -I would like to think that I'd get that. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
-The £5,000? -Yeah. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
-£1,000. -Why? | 0:22:47 | 0:22:48 | |
That's how much it's worth. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
-Ah... -Or do you think it should have gone up in price? | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
-That's now worth five grand. -OK. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
So, how much should your insurance company pay out? | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
Five grand! | 0:23:00 | 0:23:01 | |
-Yeah? -Am I just stating the obvious here? | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
'So you'd hope, but how would you feel if, like Sadiq, | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
'you're considered grossly underinsured and get nothing?' | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
I'd be angry, obviously. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
I didn't think that that could actually happen. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
It's just not possible. You rely on these people to do a good job, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
and they're not. No, that's scary. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
What if I told you the chances are they wouldn't give you a penny? | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
-Really? -Really. You're classed as underinsured. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
They would possibly cancel your policy | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
and you possibly couldn't get insurance again | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
as a result of the claim being made void. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
-Gracious me! -It's a bit shocking, isn't it? | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
That is shocking, yes. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:37 | |
And on top of that, you're to blame. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
How are you going to feel about that? | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
Whose responsibility is it to keep the value up to date? | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
The insurance company's or yours? | 0:23:45 | 0:23:46 | |
I don't know. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
-It's probably mine, innit? Is it? -It is yours. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
-To keep a tab on what's going on? -Yeah. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
But insurance companies are aware it's gone up. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
Should they be warning you of that? | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
-They should do, shouldn't they? -Yeah. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
They should write to you, shouldn't they, and say you're underinsured? | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
You see, there is proof of the pudding. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
A lot of people could find themselves | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
in exactly the same situation as Sadiq - | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
sitting on a goldmine but insured for a coalmine. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
Right, I've had a letter back from the insurance company | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
about poor old Sadiq. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
And it's brought up a couple of questions for me, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
which I think would be quite interesting. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
'Now, although the Financial Ombudsman is | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
'also investigating this, I'm going to get back on the hotline | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
'to esure to see if I can get to the bottom of this case. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
'After my first call, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:39 | |
'I now have a contact who sounds like a decision maker to me - | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
'Adrian Webb, Head of Corporate Communication.' | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
-Hello there, it's Adrian here. -Hi, Adrian, it's Dominic Littlewood. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
'Having spoken to members of the public | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
'and with information from valuers, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
'clearly, undervaluing gold is a huge problem. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
'Surely esure is not going to blame Sadiq for what is a common mistake?' | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
In your opinion, do you think that Sadiq has deliberately misled you? | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
Whatever it is, he did mislead us. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
There is no two ways about it from what we've looked at | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
and what we've seen. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:14 | |
There is absolutely no two ways about it. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
He did not tell us the truth about what was in his house. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
'That's a shock. They actually think Sadiq lied to them.' | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
I've got to be honest, I can feel this one slipping away from me. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
I'm not feeling very good about this one. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
Now, in spite of what Adrian says, we know esure wrote to Sadiq, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
saying that they did not think that he had withheld the true value | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
of the jewellery maliciously, ie deliberately. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
And yet they still voided his policy. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
Are they allowed to do that? | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
And if so, how many more people across the country are about to get | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
a rude awakening when they discover their insurance policy isn't worth | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
the paper it's written on? | 0:25:55 | 0:25:56 | |
So, underinsurance is clearly a big issue, but just how big? | 0:25:57 | 0:26:02 | |
David Cresswell is a director at the Financial Ombudsman Service, | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
which is there to help consumers who have fallen out with their bank | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
or insurance company. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
So he's just the man to tackle this thorny issue of underinsurance. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
Underinsurance is a common problem. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
Although at the Ombudsman we see a relatively small number of cases, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
it's accepted that it's probably the tip of the iceberg in the sense that | 0:26:23 | 0:26:28 | |
possibly up to one in four people don't have enough insurance | 0:26:28 | 0:26:33 | |
to cover the current-day value of their possessions. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
Underinsurance is all about people not recognising | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
the true value of what they've got. And telling their insurer | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
that things are worth less than they actually are. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
But if you have still paid your premiums, why is this so critical? | 0:26:48 | 0:26:53 | |
Underinsurance is a really serious issue for insurance companies. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
It goes right to the very heart of what insurance is about. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
And insurance companies will tell you | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
it's all about "utmost good faith". | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
What that means is they will say they are going to be | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
completely open and honest with you, | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
and you, the customer, | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
must be completely open and honest with them. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
So, if you say your valuables are worth £25,000, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
and in actual fact they're worth £50,000, | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
the insurance company can quite literally say you've lied to them. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
So, if they think you're lying, what would be the consequences? | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
In some cases of underinsurance, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
the insurer can exercise their legal right to void the policy. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
That's really serious. It's probably going to mean | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
you're going to have great difficulty | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
getting any other kind of insurance as well. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
But, usually that will only happen when the insurance company | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
is pretty satisfied that you have actually tried, | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
in some way, to defraud them. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
Right, what we have just heard from the Financial Ombudsman is dynamite. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:01 | |
A company can't void your policy | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
unless they think you have intentionally lied to them. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
And I have it right here in black and white that esure don't think | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
that Sadiq deliberately misled them. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
So, we're firing off an e-mail to Adrian, stating those regulations | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
prove to be the golden bullet to blow apart esure's arguments. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:24 | |
Right, just had a message. esure have been back on the phone. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
They've only got an hour to speak to me. Probably another meeting. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
Let's find out what's going on. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:32 | |
I get lots of mail, and I just love it | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
when it's stories about you taking on the big boys and winning. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
Good on you. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
Here's a story of how you did it. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
The kitchen, the heart of the family home, | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
and with 23 million of them in the UK, | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
it's big business for the manufacturers and retailers. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
But what happens when your shiny new kitchen starts to fall apart | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
after only a few years, | 0:29:04 | 0:29:05 | |
and the company you bought it from has disappeared down the plughole? | 0:29:05 | 0:29:11 | |
I couldn't have afforded to replace it myself. We're pensioners. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
Meet grandmother of four, Angela Rice. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
Back in 2007, she decided to replace her tired kitchen | 0:29:18 | 0:29:22 | |
with a brand-spanking-new one at a cost of £5,212. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:27 | |
We were very pleased with it. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
It was in shades of coffee and cream and it was really very nice. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:35 | |
But, four years down the line, | 0:29:35 | 0:29:36 | |
Angela noticed something a bit off-colour about her kitchen. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
We sat looking at it one day and I thought, | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
"Are the colours of the kitchen changing?" | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
And gradually, the change became more and more apparent | 0:29:47 | 0:29:51 | |
and the coffee shades actually turned from coffee to almost a pale grey. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:59 | |
I was very upset, because this was a dream kitchen | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
that I'd longed for for quite some time. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
So it was really disappointing. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
And so began Angela's battle to get things put right. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
My immediate reaction was to dig out the invoice | 0:30:13 | 0:30:18 | |
and contact the original supplier. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
To my horror, I found that he'd gone bankrupt, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
so there wasn't going to be any help there. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
Not one to fall at the first hurdle, Angela tried another tack. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:30 | |
My next reaction was to approach the manufacturer. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
They did offer to sell me fresh units, | 0:30:34 | 0:30:39 | |
at manufacturer's cost price. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
That still would have involved me in a lot more expense. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:47 | |
A lot of you would have given up there and then, | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
but not Angela, because she was a bit of a legal eagle. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:54 | |
10-15 years ago, because I left school at 16 | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
and didn't have any A-levels, I decided to do an A-level in law. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:03 | |
I felt, if my youngest son can cope with law, | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
and he's not nearly as bright as his mum, I'm sure I can do it. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
So I actually did A-level law. And I got an A. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:16 | |
And A-student Angela was about to become top of the class. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:21 | |
When you have paid for a product with your credit card, | 0:31:21 | 0:31:25 | |
that makes the credit card company | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
jointly and severally responsible for defective goods, | 0:31:28 | 0:31:33 | |
or goods that are not of satisfactory quality. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
She was bang-on. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
The Consumer Credit Act of 1974 provides protection | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
to consumers via their credit card companies | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
from faulty goods and businesses going under. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
So, she got straight on to Barclaycard, and told them | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
they were now responsible for the cost of getting things fixed. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:57 | |
After the initial phone call, | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
we started sending photographs of the kitchen. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
We sent them numerous e-mails. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
Their response was always slow. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
I made telephone logs, | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
where I had been hanging on for 40 minutes, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
listening to muzak, and this sort of thing. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:18 | |
And it really is very frustrating, trying to communicate with them. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:23 | |
Angela felt she needed concrete proof that her kitchen was indeed faulty, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:28 | |
so, she did some digging. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
I found out that there were two organisations that could help me. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
The Kitchens And Bathrooms Association, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
or the Furniture Ombudsman. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
Both of which would charge in the region of £350 for a report. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:43 | |
And I wrote to Barclaycard and said, would this be acceptable? | 0:32:43 | 0:32:48 | |
And were they prepared to contribute towards the report? | 0:32:48 | 0:32:54 | |
And they wrote back to me, offering me £50. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
I then contacted them again and said, "This is derisory." | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
I went ahead with the report from the Furniture Ombudsman. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
The report came back, conclusively stating that the kitchen | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
was of defective manufacture and I thought, at that stage, | 0:33:10 | 0:33:16 | |
they are going to have to admit responsibility. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
Angela sent Barclaycard the report, together with two quotes | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
for the kitchen repairs, and waited for their reply. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
They came back to me and told me they had lost the report | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
and they had only copied two pages of it. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
I was livid. My blood was rising and I thought, | 0:33:33 | 0:33:38 | |
I'm going to have to take them to court. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
The other thing that had happened was they had said, if they didn't | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
hear from me within ten days, they were going to close the case. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:49 | |
Hey, I'd been going at this for about four months! | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
So, at that stage, I had to write back and say, "This is it. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:59 | |
"Seven days or I'm going to take you to court." | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
After a six-day wait, Barclaycard got back to her. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
They did respond with an offer of £3,318. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:12 | |
And £250 for the Furniture Ombudsman's report | 0:34:13 | 0:34:20 | |
and, they said, in full and final settlement. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
Angela's tenacity and legal savvy had paid off. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
I feel as if I have won a moral battle, and the outcome is good. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:34 | |
My kitchen is lovely to look at, and yeah, it was worth doing. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:39 | |
Barclaycard have issued a statement, saying: | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
They go on to apologise and confirm that: | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
What a great result for Angela. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
She showed Barclaycard that, | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
if you can't stand the heat, get out the kitchen! | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
Father of two Sadiq Ali is battling his insurance company, esure. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:15 | |
They voided his policy | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
and refused to pay out after a burglary at the family home. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:22 | |
It wasn't just that we lost, suffered a burglary | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
and all the heartache and anxiety that goes with that. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
Then, none of our things were replaced | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
by the insurers that we depended on. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
Now, I've been digging deep to find a way to make esure back down. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:39 | |
And, so far, this has been a really tough nut. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
But, I think I might have finally found a crack in this case. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
Thanks to the Financial Ombudsman's regulations, | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
which state that a policy can be voided only when | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
there is a deliberate attempt to lie to the insurance company, | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
which, esure agree, was not true in Sadiq's case. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
While waiting for a ruling from the Financial Ombudsman's service | 0:35:58 | 0:36:03 | |
on whether esure was justified in voiding Sadiq's claim, | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
I fired off an e-mail to Adrian, head of corporate communications, | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
pointing out FOS regulations, | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
and it seems that I might have hit a nerve, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
because he came straight back to me. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
Right, just had a message. esure have been back on the phone. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
And they've only got an hour to speak to me. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
Probably another meeting. Let's find out what's going on. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
I have a feeling that this could be a turning point | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
and that all that research is about to pay off. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
Right, here goes. What's the update? | 0:36:32 | 0:36:33 | |
The update is, we will not be voiding the policy. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
And we will be passing the claim back for assessment again. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
Bingo. Just what I wanted to hear. Looks like we're back in business. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:47 | |
It seems that, after my e-mail, esure got in touch | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
with the Financial Ombudsman service before their ruling | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
and told them they were going to do a U-turn. Great, but what now? | 0:36:53 | 0:36:58 | |
We'll be reinstating their policy and dealing with the whole thing | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
as fast as we humanly can, to minimise any stress on them. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
Which is really good news. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
We'll be dealing with the claim. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
How we will be dealing with the claim, I'm not sure. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
This is all brilliant, | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
but what really changed their minds about Sadiq's claim? | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
Genuinely, hand on heart, going through it now, | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
-it is a case of, you know, extreme naivete, but not deliberate. -No. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:24 | |
But the question about paying out | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
and voiding the policy is the important one. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
We should not have voided that policy. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
I've rung the bell, but don't forget, | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
we're still waiting for that payout. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
Cheers, bye. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
I like it when you deal with someone who knows what he's talking about. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:41 | |
I've got a feeling Sadiq is going to be jumping over the moon. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:45 | |
Sadiq and Mohima have been very, very fortunate | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
and there's lessons to be learned here by all of us. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
It's such a big problem that esure agreed to meet me, | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
and what better place than a 500-year-old boozer? | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
Hope they serve tea! | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
We've heard how underinsurance is such a big issue, | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
and the first thing I want to know is, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
what is the industry doing about it? | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
Ironically, during the course of last year, | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
while all this was going on, | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
we e-mailed all our customers to say, do the sensible thing. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
Go through your house, write everything down. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
Put a value on it as to what it would cost to replace that. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
That is your contents sum insured. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
Don't just take a guess. There's no point in taking a guess. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
We've seen cases where people have lost everything in fires, | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
and you know, it's a modern age, where you can take a photograph | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
of everything in your house, so you know what's there. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
Give it a proper value. We'll give you a proper premium. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
Everyone's happy. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
Do you not think insurance companies, all companies, | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
should have a leeway there, and allow for the fact that somebody | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
who insured an item, that item might have gone up and there should be | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
a certain amount of leeway to allow for that, for that sort of naivete. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
This is exactly, in the end, | 0:38:56 | 0:38:57 | |
what we have judged to have happened in Sadiq's case. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
The alarm bells went off originally, but when we've looked into it, | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
we've apologised to him because he has been one of these people | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
where he has been caught with the rapid rise of gold prices, | 0:39:07 | 0:39:12 | |
with not having taken specific attention to what's in there | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
originally, so there was nothing fraudulent about this. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
This was a simple burglary | 0:39:19 | 0:39:20 | |
of some items that turned out to be worth much more | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
than they should've been insured for. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
The example you would give in motor insurance | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
is nobody would be happy if they said, "I've got a Mini," | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
and then a claim comes in for a crashed Lamborghini. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
Sadiq, after he put that claim in, you said no to that claim | 0:39:34 | 0:39:38 | |
and voided his whole policy. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:39 | |
He was left uninsured, then from that moment onwards. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
Why on earth did you do that? He wasn't a criminal. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
He hadn't tried to defraud you. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
No, and in fact, unreserved apology to Sadiq for that. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
-You're putting your hands up and saying it was wrong? -That was wrong. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
Adrian, I want to thank you, especially on behalf of Sadiq, | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
and hopefully, people have learned here, make sure you're insured, | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
-and not underinsured. -Not underinsured. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
-Thanks for your time. -Thank you. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:03 | |
You know, I really appreciate it | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
when companies come along and meet me face-to-face, | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
but what's become very obvious after that little chat is, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
Sadiq's problem of underinsurance is actually a major issue. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:17 | |
Following on from our chat, | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
Adrian has earned himself a gold star from me. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
He's been true to his word | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
and e-mailed with a final settlement offer on Sadiq's claim. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
And I can't wait to see what the family makes of it. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
Right, I'll start off now, with a little bit of a ticking-off, | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
but it's not just aimed at you guys. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
This is probably the majority of people out there right now | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
who are insured. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
You were underinsured, and that is not the fault of esure. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
That is your responsibility to make sure that you put in | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
the claims form and do everything right. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:50 | |
For us, it was a shock, obviously to find that out, | 0:40:50 | 0:40:54 | |
and we will put our hands up, we didn't know. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
We didn't expect them to do what they did. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
How do you feel now, if I said I hadn't been able to do anything for you, | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
and you have basically got no money coming, | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
and you will have trouble insuring yourself again? | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
I feel as if we are in the wrong, as if we are fraudsters | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
or something like that, that we've done something wrong. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
When we haven't. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
esure do agree. They don't think that you've been dishonest. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
They don't think you've tried to be devious. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
There is a grey area there, because they think you've been | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
a little bit daft, that you haven't been insured fully. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
What they are prepared to do is what's called reinstate your claim. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:34 | |
They're not going to have you listed now, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
as being declined insurance. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
You will be able to insure yourself. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
Fantastic. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
Brilliant relief. It is brilliant to draw a line under the chapter. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:47 | |
It's a weight off our shoulders. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
I've got some more news for you. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
They are now going to pay you out, £16,346.57. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:58 | |
You are, you're pulling our leg! | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
They've reinstated the claim, and they are going to pay it. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
-Let me just give you that figure again. £16,346.57. -No! | 0:42:06 | 0:42:12 | |
All of it? It is pretty much all of it, isn't it? | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
It's actually more than all, and let me tell you the reason why. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
Not only have they been decent enough to reinstate the insurance, | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
to pay out and agree to pay out, | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
they're also going to give you interest on the money | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
which they would have paid out, had it been eight months ago. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
Wow! You can have your gold back. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
Yeah! | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
Well, thank you, Dom! | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
You're fantastic. People's champion! | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
-You look gobsmacked! -Yeah! | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
I think Sadiq and Mohima are a little bit shell-shocked there, | 0:42:48 | 0:42:52 | |
but I'm really pleased for them. It's a great result. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
esure came good in the end, and it's fair to say | 0:42:54 | 0:42:58 | |
Sadiq has learned a valuable lesson in insurance. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:02 | |
And he's not alone. I don't know about you, | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
but I'm off to check that my policies are up-to-date. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
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