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I've been fighting your consumer battles for years. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
But the same old problems just keep flooding in. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
'And it's all the usual suspects.' | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
'Poor customer service, faulty goods and hidden small print.' | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
'No wonder some of you are fed up with the way you're being treated.' | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
They think they can afford to lose customers. If you don't go back, it doesn't matter, another one walks in. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:23 | |
-The customer is forgotten. -I couldn't agree more. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
Things need to change and we're on a mission to get companies to treat us better. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:30 | |
'I'll be taking on your cases and fighting your fight with the big companies.' | 0:00:30 | 0:00:35 | |
I think he'll be sensible and say, "Hands up. Have your money back." | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
'I'll be showing you how to shop smart and stay one step ahead.' | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
She's a really good shopper. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
-So remember, don't get done... -..get Dom. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
'On today's programme, the newlyweds' brand-new car that had massive gaps.' | 0:00:51 | 0:00:57 | |
Crikey! A gap like the Dartford Tunnel, that is. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
'Rani explores tenants' rights.' | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
"I just popped by to see if everything was all right." | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
I'm, like, "Excuse me. This is my house." | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
'And the man who got rid of nuisance callers by making them pay him a fortune.' | 0:01:08 | 0:01:14 | |
Then I invoiced them for 19½ minutes at £10 a minute. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
You know, buying a new car is a bit of a buzz. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
Everything you do the first time is really exciting. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
Like turning on the engine. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
ENGINE REVS | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
And then, there's that lovely fresh smell. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
That brand-new, spanking, straight out of the wrapper interior. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
And then, you've got your perfectly polished and unmarked paintwork, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
like you'd expect with a brand-spanking-new motor. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
What about if the one that you picked up at the showroom wasn't up to scratch? | 0:01:52 | 0:01:57 | |
'Unfortunately, that's exactly what happened to newlyweds | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
Rachel Florey and husband Kevin from Bury near Manchester.' | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
'They decided to celebrate their upcoming marriage by buying themselves a new carriage.' | 0:02:06 | 0:02:11 | |
'A Ford Focus, to be precise.' | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
'Brand-new and straight out of the Evans Halshaw showroom.' | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
We decided to choose Ford because the Focus suited all of our needs. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
They're a well-known brand and we thought, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
"A new car, you're not going to get any problems with that." | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
That's why you buy a new car. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
'It was a hectic moment for the couple, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
'who had more than buying a new car on their minds.' | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
When we picked up the car, it was an exciting time for us, | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
we were busy planning our wedding and honeymoon. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
We didn't take much notice of the car. We thought it was brand-new. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
It'll be perfect. It was a few weeks later that my father noticed | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
that the rear of the car was out of alignment. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
'Yes, indeed. Unfortunately, once Rachel and Kevin had calmed down | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
from the excitement of the wedding, they found their pristine new car | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
was far from perfect.' | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
The spoiler on one side looked a little wonky. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
There were lines running down the left-hand side of the vehicle that were symmetrical. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:08 | |
But on the right-hand side there were huge gaps that you could fit your fingers in. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:13 | |
'The worst affected panel seemed to be the tailgate.' | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
'The couple simply hadn't thought to inspect these gaps when they collected their Focus.' | 0:03:16 | 0:03:21 | |
'Like many new-car buyers they assumed that, with a factory fresh motor, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
they didn't need to worry about such things.' | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
We were surprised to begin with, because you buy a new car | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
and you expect it to be perfect. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:33 | |
When you pick up a new car you look at paint defects, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
you don't look at build defects. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
'Rachel took the car back to her dealer, Evans Halshaw, | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
'who said they'd investigate.' | 0:03:42 | 0:03:43 | |
'She also raised concerns with the manufacturer Ford.' | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
'It was agreed that Evans Halshaw would try and repair the alignment issues | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
'and Rachel hoped this would solve the problem.' | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
Evans Halshaw asked us to go and pick the vehicle up. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
We thought this meant it was repaired. We went to collect the car. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
It didn't look that much different than it did when we dropped it off. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
We highlighted this to Evans Halshaw. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:06 | |
'A few days later, Evans Halshaw contacted Rachel to say that, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
'having carried out various adjustments to the tailgate, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
'the gaps now met Ford's standards.' | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
'But Rachel still wasn't happy with them and worse was to come.' | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
'The car soon developed other faults, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
'including windscreen wipers that wouldn't work, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
'and a problem starting their car.' | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
'All told, these problems had damaged Rachel's confidence in her new Ford Focus.' | 0:04:28 | 0:04:34 | |
By the sounds of it, Rachel's brand-new car | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
didn't live up to its expectations and that's to say the least. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:41 | |
I've come to meet her to find out what's been happening | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
and also what's going on. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
-You must be Rachel. How are you doing? -Hi, nice to meet you. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
-I'm soaked through. It's pouring down. -It's always like this. -I hope you've got the kettle on. -Come in. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:02 | |
'I'm keen to see for myself how the panel gaps were when the couple collected their car | 0:05:02 | 0:05:07 | |
'before any adjustments were made by Evans Halshaw.' | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
-Have you got pictures of what we're talking about? -Yes. -Let's see. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
-If you look at that, it looks like the boot's open. -It does. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
-And that's shut? -And that's shut. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
Crikey! A gap like the Dartford Tunnel, that is. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
If you look, comparing these two pictures. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
That's one side of the car where you can see | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
it's just my fingernail in the gap. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
-On that side, my whole finger. -That's unbelievable. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
-That's how it was delivered? -That's how it was delivered. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
'Car manufacturers like Ford have strict standards for panel gaps.' | 0:05:39 | 0:05:44 | |
'When cars are built, these gaps must be within a certain tolerance.' | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
'Usually one or two millimetres of the agreed standard.' | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
'From the photos, it seems unlikely the gaps were within tolerance when the car was delivered.' | 0:05:51 | 0:05:56 | |
'But, as the tailgate has since been adjusted, we may never know for sure.' | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
'The thing is, panel gaps aren't the only issue here.' | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
We subsequently had problems with the ignition. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
The car just would not start. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
You would put the key in the ignition and the car would not start. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
'Having a car that wouldn't start was bad enough.' | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
'At around the same time, Rachel had the unnerving experience | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
'of having her windscreen wipers fail whilst driving in the rain.' | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
They just wouldn't work. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
Given the torrential weather that you've witnessed in the northwest, it's not ideal. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:31 | |
'Rachel reported the ignition and windscreen wiper faults to Ford | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
'and a different Ford garage, Gordons of Bolton. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
'They made sure the windscreen wipers worked | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
'and fixed the ignition faults.' | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
'They also had another look at the tailgate to see if they could improve the alignment further.' | 0:06:42 | 0:06:47 | |
'But it seemed, no matter how much adjustment was done, | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
'the gaps on Rachel's car were never going to be perfect.' | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
Have you ever heard the expression, "You've got a Friday afternoon car"? | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
-Yeah. -Right. By that, they mean one that's been | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
rushed through, one wants to get home for the weekend. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
It's an expression. Your car's like that, one which might not have gone through all the checks | 0:07:03 | 0:07:08 | |
or they haven't picked up on problems when they should have done. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
But, and here's the big but, | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
when you go in and say, "I would like that Ford Focus," and give them your spec, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:19 | |
it then goes through a PDI, a pre-delivery inspection. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
That's when a mechanic, a qualified mechanic, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
will inspect everything. Oil levels, brake-fluid levels, | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
make sure nothing's been missed, no panel damage and that car is 100% ready to be given to you. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:33 | |
'Those panel gaps look pretty big in the photos, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
'yet it seems nothing was picked up by any pre-delivery inspection.' | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
Most garages now are really hot on customer service. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:46 | |
It's something which is fundamental to them. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
They're doing everything they can to gain customers and keep customers. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:53 | |
I'm a little bit surprised that I'm here addressing a problem | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
which I would have thought was quite straightforward to sort out. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
Why hasn't it happened? | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
Well, in all fairness, I really don't know. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
Right. What I'd like to establish is how long had you owned the car | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
when you first alerted the dealership to the problem? | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
We picked it up in February and we alerted the dealership in April. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
-Two months later. -Two months, yeah. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
If it's that bad, why did it take you two months to notice it? | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
When we picked the car up at the beginning of February, we were due to get married on the 3rd of March. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:28 | |
We didn't spend time looking at the car, it was more toing and froing, getting ready for the wedding. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:34 | |
Then we immediately went on honeymoon. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
We got married, went on honeymoon, came back. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
Then it was getting back into the swing of things with work. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
-Then it was in April that we alerted them. -Totally understandable now. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:46 | |
I'm with you on the two months. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
No-one could pull you up on that. It was a busy period in your life. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
'Once Rachel noticed the panel gap issue, she was in regular contact | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
'with Ford over this and the other faults that cropped up.' | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
'And, when after 3½ months, she felt the car still wasn't right, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:05 | |
'she and her husband decided to take action.' | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
We'd just completely had enough of the whole thing, | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
so we formally rejected the vehicle back in July. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
We wrote to Ford and Evans Halshaw saying | 0:09:15 | 0:09:16 | |
this vehicle was of unsatisfactory quality, we were rejecting the car, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:21 | |
and that we would accept an exchange replacement of the vehicle. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
After several more weeks of paperwork and processes | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
that Ford were telling us they were having to go through, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
Evans Halshaw came back to us and said, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
"We'll replace the car for you but we want £3,000." | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
When they said that we'd have to pay £3,000 for a replacement car, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
I was just astounded, I was gobsmacked. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
'A like-for-like replacement for Rachel's car wasn't available immediately, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:49 | |
'so Ford were offering her a higher-specification car with a new type of engine.' | 0:09:49 | 0:09:54 | |
'They were also asking her for a contribution | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
'towards mileage and depreciation for her existing Focus, | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
'which she'd now had for several months.' | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
'But Rachel wasn't happy with any of this | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
'and wasn't prepared to pay another penny.' | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
-How did you buy it? -On finance. Part exchange and finance. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:11 | |
That's not a bad thing, because, although you pay interest with the finance, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
-automatically you're covered by the Consumer Credit Act. -Right. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
'That means that, in the highly unlikely event it becomes necessary, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
we could turn to the finance company for help.' | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
I can go to the finance company, who are now jointly responsible for the quality of those goods, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
and say, "Rachel's car is not as described, | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
it's not fit for purpose, whatever the situation may be." | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
"Give us the money back or give us another car." | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
What would you actually like as an outcome? | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
We wanted another car. However, after everything we've been through | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
and the months of stress and heartache Ford have put us through, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
I don't want another one now. I don't want to see a Ford ever again. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
-I want my money back. -OK. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
So you want me to get on to Ford, get you a full refund. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
Slight complication because you had a part exchange. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
Their problem not yours, as far as I'm concerned. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
You want your money back, your interest back, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
no penalties for mileage and you can start again. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
-Yes, please. There you go. -OK. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
Right. I'll be conceited and say you've got the best man on the job. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
I understand the motor industry. And I also know my consumer rights. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
-I'll see what I can do. -Fantastic. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
-Thank you very much. -Good to meet you. Speak to you soon. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
Anybody who buys a brand-new car should be full of excitement. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:33 | |
Rachel's not and I can understand why. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
Let's see what Ford's got to say about it, shall we? | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
'Rachel's main complaint is that she's not happy with the quality of her car.' | 0:11:39 | 0:11:44 | |
'But we're dealing with a true motoring giant here, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
'because Ford are the fifth-largest carmaker in the world.' | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
'And were the first to mass produce cars over 100 years ago.' | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
'It's time to get on the phone.' | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
'To help us direct your call to the correct team, | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
'please choose from one of the following options.' | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
How annoying is that? I'm just going to press two. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
'I opt for customer services.' | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
I'm calling from the BBC. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
Thank you. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
Here's where I get put through to a press officer. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
'Sure enough, I'm told I need to speak to their press office.' | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
Thanks very much. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
'For speed, I'm just going to redial.' | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
KEYPAD TONES BEEP | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
I'm just trying to ring them direct. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
RINGING TONE | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
Tim, good afternoon to you. It's Dominic Littlewood at the BBC. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
'Tim doesn't want us to use his voice, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
'so I fill him in on the situation with Rachel and her car.' | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
There's all sorts of issues. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
I think some you'll find shocking when you see them. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
I've got photographs... | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
'He asks for the name of the dealer that sold the car.' | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
She bought the car initially from Evans Halshaw. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
'Not a long chat but enough to let the Ford brass know that Rachel's got me on her side.' | 0:13:03 | 0:13:08 | |
That guy knows what he's talking about. I can just sense it. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
That's good for me because, once he realises exactly what I'm fighting, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:17 | |
I'll be very surprised if he wants to argue with me. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
I think he'll be sensible and say, "Hands up. Have your money back." | 0:13:19 | 0:13:24 | |
'But, coming up, will it be as straightforward as I had hoped?' | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
Sticking that in one of the gaps, to me, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
it's a hell of a tolerance they're giving it. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
I'm Rani Price. And there is nothing that I like better than helping you, the buying public, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:42 | |
through the minefield of regulations to make sure you stay savvy shoppers. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:47 | |
'Consumer law can be very confusing.' | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
'You've got your Sale Of Goods Act, Distance Selling, Right To Return, and it doesn't stop there.' | 0:13:50 | 0:13:55 | |
'But knowing just a few of these laws | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
'can not only save you money but a lot of hassle as well.' | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
Do you know what this is? | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
Two for a tenner. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
'Today, I'm out on the streets armed with questions for the buying public, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
'to find out if you know your consumer rights from your consumer wrongs.' | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
-Do you want to be on the news? -No. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
Many people are being priced out of the housing market and forced to rent. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
The number of families renting has increased by 86% in the last five years. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:28 | |
The number of complaints about landlords in the under-regulated rental sector | 0:14:28 | 0:14:33 | |
has rocketed by a quarter in recent years. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
Which begs the question, do renters know their rights? | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
Can I ask, do you rent a property? | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
Do you rent a property? Do you? Do you? Do you? Do you? Do you? Do you? | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
LAUGHS | 0:14:46 | 0:14:47 | |
-You're a renter? -Yes. -You have a private landlord? -Yes. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
-Do you know your rights? -No, not really. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
-Do you know how to fight your rights? -No. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
'There seems to be some confusion on the streets.' | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
'Time for some expert guidance.' | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
There are 3.6 million households in the private-rental sector in Britain, | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
which has gone up 41% in the last five years. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
We predict that, at the current rates, by 2025, | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
one third of people in Britain will be renting their home. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
'So, first up, I want to find out how much you know about repairs.' | 0:15:17 | 0:15:22 | |
'Who is actually responsible? The landlord or you, the tenant?' | 0:15:22 | 0:15:28 | |
Things are going wrong. Maybe, for example, let's have a think. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
-The bathroom's leaking. -Yeah. -Who's going to sort it out? | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
The letting agent. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
-The tap starts to leak, something like that. What do you do? -Call the landlord. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
If something goes wrong in your flat or your house, who do you call? | 0:15:41 | 0:15:46 | |
-And don't say Ghostbusters. -I'd call the agency. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
'All three of you think that the landlord or agency | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
'is always responsible for fixing household repairs.' | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
'Well, think again.' | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
-Do you read the small print? -Er, not really, no. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
Any major repairs are the landlord's responsibility | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
and their responsibility to make sure the building's safe to live in. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
Minor repairs may be the responsibility of the tenant, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
but you should check your tenancy agreement for the rules on that. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
'But what about when you don't need to call your landlord | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
'because they've already turned up at your place | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
'and let themselves in without you knowing?' | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
Your awful landlord, did you ever find him in your house? | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
-Yeah. -You did? | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
What was he doing in your house? | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
Your house that you were renting from him. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
-The old one, not this one now. -Yeah, the old one. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
He was, like, "I just popped by to see if everything was all right." | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
I'm, like, "Excuse me. This is my house." | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
If you came home and the landlord was there just checking the boiler, what would your reaction be? | 0:16:45 | 0:16:50 | |
I would be, like, "Oh, OK. Um, all right." | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
Have you ever come home and somebody from the agency is in your flat? | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
No. I know they're not supposed to or are allowed to come in | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
-unless they give you 24 hours' notice. -Very good. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
'Well done. Right answer.' | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
'It's your home and it's up to you who comes to visit.' | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
'Not only that...' | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
If you turn up at home and your landlord's sitting in the house | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
or going through the mail saying, "I'm just checking things up." | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
You can ask him to leave. It is your right. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
'But if your landlord does insist on coming into your property uninvited, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:26 | |
'refuses to carry out repairs, or resolve any other dispute, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
'does your rent become a bargaining tool?' | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
Would you have ever thought of withholding your rent? | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
I think that would be the last step. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
I suspect, if you withhold rent, they may be able to kick you out. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
Would you ever think of withholding your rent? | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
I'd think of threatening it, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
-but I don't know if I'd do it. -Well, don't. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
As a tenant, you don't have the right to withhold your rent. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
Withholding rent could put you in arrears, | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
which could put you at risk of eviction. | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
So, remember, when you sign on the dotted line, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
make sure you know what you've agreed to as a tenant. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
Know your rights and you won't get done. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
'I've been trying to find a way forward for Rachel Florey and husband Kevin.' | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
'A couple of months after buying a brand-new Ford Focus, | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
'they noticed some problems with the alignment of the tailgate.' | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
-Unbelievable. That's how it was delivered? -That's how it was delivered. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
'But soon after, the car developed other faults too.' | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
'The windscreen wipers stopped working.' | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
'There was also a fault with the ignition.' | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
'All told, these problems caused Rachel | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
'to lose confidence in her Focus.' | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
'So she decided to reject her car.' | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
'But having now had it for a few months, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
'Rachel was asked to contribute £3,000 towards a replacement model, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
'which would have to be a different higher-spec version.' | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
Obviously, for us, we'd bought a new car and we weren't happy. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:02 | |
'I've already told Ford that I'm on the case.' | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
'I'm keen to speak to Evans Halshaw, the dealer who sold her the car, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
'to hear their take on the problems.' | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
'I've been told I need to speak to a chap called Martyn.' | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
'I explained why I'm ringing and checked that he's familiar with Rachel's case,' | 0:19:14 | 0:19:19 | |
'We supplied the car.' | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
'After Rachel raised concerns about the panel alignment, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
'Evans Halshaw investigated | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
'and told her they'd made some adjustments and then checked the gaps against Ford's tolerances.' | 0:19:26 | 0:19:31 | |
'When we've checked the vehicle out, | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
'the tolerances are within spec that Ford has sent to us.' | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
Right. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:39 | |
'When I say tolerances, I mean the tolerances of the tailgate | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
'and the gaps between the tailgate | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
-'and the rear quarters, the rear panels.' -Right. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
'We've also compared it with other Focuses.' | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
'Again, it's well within tolerance within other Focuses.' | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
'Although Rachel was unhappy with the panel alignment on her car, | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
'even after it had been adjusted, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
'Martyn says the panel gaps were within tolerances.' | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
'But he questions why it was over a month before they raised concerns about their panel alignment.' | 0:20:03 | 0:20:09 | |
'The lady took delivery, I think it was in February, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
'and it was probably some time late March | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
'when she first brought it to our attention.' | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
-Yep. She got married in between and went on honeymoon. -'OK.' | 0:20:18 | 0:20:24 | |
'The thing is, we'll never know exactly how the original gaps compared to Ford's tolerances.' | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
'That's not really the point. The fact is, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
'faults like the misaligned panels caused Rachel to lose faith in her car.' | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
'From what Martyn's saying, it sounds like the problem | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
'was probably there when the car rolled off the production line.' | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
As far as you're concerned, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
you think that's how it came out of the factory? | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
-'That's how it came out of the factory.' -Right. OK. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
-Thank you for your help. -'Thank you. Bye.' -Bye. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
'Of course, the panel gaps aren't the only problem Rachel has experienced with her car.' | 0:20:54 | 0:20:59 | |
'And her case has got me thinking about what we consumers | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
'should expect from a brand-new motor.' | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
If you buy a car second-hand, you'll need to spend time checking out its condition. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:11 | |
Everything from whether the engine ticks over nicely... | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
..to whether the bodywork has got any dents or scratches. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
Ouch! | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
And all the panels should line up. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
Of course, when you buy a brand-spanking-new car, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
you shouldn't need to worry about that, | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
because it's barely turned a wheel. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
But is it actually as simple as that? | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
'Well, not according to Barry Wheeler.' | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
'Yes, that is his name.' | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
'He provides vehicle reports for insurance firms | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
'and is an expert on the construction history of cars.' | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
'He has heard stories of what can happen to cars | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
'between leaving the factory and reaching the showroom.' | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
While some cars are made in the UK, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
the vast majority of cars are made abroad. And a lot of cars | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
are made in the Far East. In order for them to be sold here, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
they have to be transported halfway around the world. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
There's a lot of opportunity for damage to occur to a car during that transit process. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:19 | |
They sit on docks, they're in storage yards, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
they have to be moved on and off of ships. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
There's a lot of opportunity for damage to occur to these cars. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
A lot of damage occurs, which then gets repaired | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
and the cars get sold on as brand-new cars still. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
'Now, I should say here that this has nothing to do with Rachel's car | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
'and nor does it apply to Ford or Evans Halshaw.' | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
'But, if you're thinking about buying a new car, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
'it's worth knowing what could have happened if it was damaged in transit.' | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
Manufacturers will sell a car brand-new | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
even if it's had panels damaged and repaired. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
They will repair and paint it, sell it as a new car | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
without informing the customer that it's been damaged and repaired. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
'Of course, the vast majority of cars reach the showroom unscathed. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:03 | |
'But, if there's a lesson here, it's that, | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
'even if you're buying a brand-new car, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
'you should spend plenty of time checking the condition | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
'of the bodywork to make sure it's up to scratch.' | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
'And, if you have any concerns, tell the dealer as soon as possible.' | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
'Right, back to Rachel's case. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
'Next, I'd like to speak to Gordons of Bolton, | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
'the other Ford dealer who had a look at Rachel's car.' | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
'Gordons fixed the windscreen wipers and ignition issues | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
'but were also asked by Ford to have another look | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
'at the alignment of the tailgate.' | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
'I'm keen to hear their thoughts.' | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
I'm trying to get to the bottom of what the issue is. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
I've seen photos of the car, there's big problems with gaps and things. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
What causes that? | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
'The chap doesn't want his voice used.' | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
'But he tells me, although they've done all they can to realign the panels, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
'the gaps still aren't perfect.' | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
OK. That slightly concerns me. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
If you've done everything you can to realign it and it's still not ideal, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
still not correct, what other options are left for Rachel? | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
'And that's my point. If the car is never going to be perfect, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:16 | |
'then who can blame Rachel for wanting to reject it | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
'and have her money back?' | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
'There may be light at the end of the tunnel. Since my call to Ford, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
'they've been in touch with Rachel and made an offer on behalf of them and dealer Evans Halshaw.' | 0:24:24 | 0:24:30 | |
'But I've still not had any answers on exactly what went wrong with Rachel's car.' | 0:24:30 | 0:24:35 | |
'So I get back on the phone to Ford.' | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
Tim, good afternoon. It's Dominic Littlewood at the BBC. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
Somewhere along the line, it seems that these panels don't fit | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
and quite visibly very, very... Well, shocking is the word I'd use. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:51 | |
'Tim can't tell me exactly what went wrong with Rachel's Focus, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
'but I know that Ford have commissioned reports into the car.' | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
'And I'd love to get my mitts on them.' | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
If we can have the reports, that would be brilliant. We can put it to bed. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
'Something tells me I won't get to see those reports.' | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
Thanks for your time, Tim. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:09 | |
'That doesn't mean we can't get our own expert to have a look.' | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
It shouldn't have been allowed to have been sold in that condition. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
Cold calls, they can drive you mad. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
But most of us would just say, "Thanks but no thanks," and hang up. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:31 | |
But one man was hounded by so many cold calls, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
he decided to take action. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
'Richard Herman from Surrey is a man who appreciates a bit of peace and quiet in life.' | 0:25:39 | 0:25:44 | |
'He's a small-business owner.' | 0:25:44 | 0:25:45 | |
'In 2012, he decided he could quite happily work from home | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
'and avoid the hurly-burly of office life.' | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
'It meant he got to spend more time with his wife, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
'but he found being at home was anything but free | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
'from disturbance.' | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
I found I was more aware of people who knocked on the door trying to sell things. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
And more aware of the number of cold telephone calls that we received. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:09 | |
'Like many, he felt there was little he could do to stop the calls.' | 0:26:09 | 0:26:14 | |
'He believed his telephone number must've been sold on to one or more | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
'sales companies who were free to disturb him at will.' | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
It felt like somebody coming along and kind of doing this all the time, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
which isn't an acceptable lifestyle thing to do. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
In fact, talking to family and friends, | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
hearing that half of them don't answer their landline any more, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
they leave it to go to answering machine or don't answer it at all. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
Which is a real abuse, that we can't have a landline to be able to talk to people. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:44 | |
'One day, he received a call about PPI, payment protection insurance, | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
'from a company he suspected had rung him before.' | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
'Richard decided to play along with the call and pretend he was interested, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
'just to get more information about the company.' | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
While talking to them, pretending that I could be a customer with them, | 0:26:58 | 0:27:04 | |
I had to carry on until they gave me their company name | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
and I could look it up on the internet. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
I said, "Ah, I can see your address is XYZ." | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
They said it was right, so I knew who I was dealing with. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
'Richard had all the information he needed, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
'so he dropped the pretence he was interested and hit them with an ultimatum.' | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
I said to them, "If you call me again, I'll charge you £10 per minute for my time." | 0:27:23 | 0:27:29 | |
'It wasn't the response the company was used to getting.' | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
'Richard hoped his tactic would be enough to make sure they never rang back. Some chance.' | 0:27:33 | 0:27:38 | |
To my astonishment, two days later, on the 20th, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
the phone rang again with similar kind of acoustics, similar kind of script. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
And I carried on with it to find out who they actually were. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
It turned out to be the same organisation again. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
When I wasn't a customer for them, they hung up on me. But I called them back. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:58 | |
I said to them, "You need to be clear, don't call me again because, | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
"if you call me, I'm going to charge you again." | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
"You need to get this right and not call me." | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
'Richard felt he'd made it perfectly clear he intended to charge the company.' | 0:28:06 | 0:28:11 | |
'Now they'd called a second time, he made good on his threats.' | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
Then I invoiced them for 19½ minutes at £10 a minute. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
So I sent them an invoice for £195. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
'Richard didn't get a response to his invoice.' | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
'But he had no intention of letting the company off the hook.' | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
After 30 days, I hadn't heard anything from them, | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
so I sent a recorded-delivery letter to their registered office | 0:28:30 | 0:28:35 | |
reminding them that they had this unpaid invoice. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
'The PPI company he had invoiced | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
'was quickly realising they had picked the wrong man to cold call.' | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
It's good in this kind of case to show a relentlessness to somebody. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:49 | |
In the first letter, the invoice, I said I want payment after 30 days. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:54 | |
Bang on the 30 days, I wrote the second letter. It shows I'm awake and paying attention. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:59 | |
And then saying to them, if I didn't hear from them in 11 days, | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
I'd raise a small claims court. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
'Richard did finally get a response from the sales company to his threats of court action.' | 0:29:05 | 0:29:10 | |
'But it wasn't what he was expecting.' | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
'They sent a letter flatly denying that they'd ever called him, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
'but that didn't bother Richard at all.' | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
'Unbeknownst to the company, he had a secret weapon.' | 0:29:18 | 0:29:22 | |
Receiving that letter amused me more than anything else, | 0:29:26 | 0:29:31 | |
because I record every phone call that I make or receive at home, | 0:29:31 | 0:29:36 | |
as we do at work, so I had the recordings of all these calls. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
And in the recordings, it's got my name and their name, | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
so it's very clear what's gone on. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:46 | |
'There is a good reason Richard was able to record calls so quickly and easily.' | 0:29:46 | 0:29:51 | |
'It's been his line of work for over 20 years.' | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
One way of recording calls is with something like this, | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
which can sit in the computer, as you can see here, | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
or it can be used externally. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
Fit it into the computer and you plug your telephone line into it. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
And record calls straight on to the PC. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
'This is the actual recording of the phone call that Richard made.' | 0:30:08 | 0:30:13 | |
'I charge my time for speaking to anybody at £10 a minute.' | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
'So if anybody calls, I'll be charging them by the minute.' | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
'I have an agreement that I'll be charging.' | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
'Richard knew he had the kind of killer evidence to easily prove the company had been calling him.' | 0:30:24 | 0:30:29 | |
When I received the two letters from them | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
denying that they'd ever called me, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
that didn't upset me at all, because I knew I had 100% solid, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:40 | |
cast-iron proof to play in court of my voice, my name, | 0:30:40 | 0:30:46 | |
their company name all in the same audio recording. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
'So Richard took a few simple steps to start a small claims court case.' | 0:30:49 | 0:30:54 | |
It's ineffectual to keep complaining to a company for month after month. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:59 | |
It doesn't get anywhere. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:00 | |
Obviously, nothing's happening, nobody's paying it attention. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
But the small claims court does make any company, any trader, | 0:31:03 | 0:31:08 | |
which is of any size that they're not going to run away, disappear, | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
it does make them respond. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
'When the company received notice of the court claim, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
'and Richard informed them he had the voice recordings, | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
'they decided it was time to hang up on this argument.' | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
I had a letter apologising for what had happened and offering to pay the claim. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
That was the £195 of my invoice and to refund the £25 of the court fee. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:33 | |
I felt pleased not to be the victim, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
which is how I felt right at the beginning. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
But I felt this company would be careful not to call me again. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:42 | |
'And they never have. It was a double victory for Richard.' | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
'He got his peace and quiet from nuisance calls and he got paid.' | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
'So, what does he think the key ingredients of his success were?' | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
Recording the calls. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
What it was we were agreeing to. They could call me at £10 a minute. | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
I was clear, definitively, who they were, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
which I got from checking the phone call against their website | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
and recording that in the conversation. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
Send an invoice with a letter, very business-like and formal. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
Send a recorded letter when it's ignored. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
Then to raise the case in the small claims court | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
all on the dates I'd given them beforehand, | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
so they could see this was a relentless situation | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
that wouldn't be stopped unless they took an action. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
'Well, good on you, Richard. You're an inspiration to us all.' | 0:32:27 | 0:32:31 | |
'I've been helping out Manchester newlywed Rachel Florey, | 0:32:35 | 0:32:39 | |
'who bought a brand-new car only to discover it had problems.' | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
'The panels on her Ford Focus didn't line up | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
'and the car has had ignition and windscreen wiper faults as well.' | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
'She wants to know how a brand-new motor like hers | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
'got to be in such a state.' | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
-There were huge gaps you could fit your fingers in. -Crikey! | 0:32:55 | 0:32:59 | |
A gap like the Dartford Tunnel. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:00 | |
'I've been in touch with the dealer who sold the car, Evans Halshaw, and Ford themselves.' | 0:33:00 | 0:33:06 | |
'I've asked for any reports done on Rachel's car.' | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
'But none have come through.' | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
'So we've asked engineer John Dubeck to meet Rachel and take a look at her car.' | 0:33:15 | 0:33:20 | |
'He's a motoring expert who gives cars a forensic examination | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
'to detail their history.' | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
What I can see here is that somebody's had a go at adjusting | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
the hinges and they've painted it afterwards. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
But the tooling marks are still there. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
'Well, that much we knew, as two separate Ford dealers have attempted to rectify the fault.' | 0:33:35 | 0:33:41 | |
'But what about the rest of the car?' | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
I can say that everything's original. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
But what has happened is, it's not been through the proper quality control checks. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:53 | |
Those quality control checks should start in manufacture. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
It seems to have slipped through. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
-Let's have a look. -'John's ready to deliver his verdict to Rachel.' | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
'It's clear, he thinks the alignment should have been sorted earlier.' | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
Shall we? I've had a look over here. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
And this is the area where I expect realignment to be carried out. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:16 | |
These are the hinges for the tailgate. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
And you can see over here we've got the four mounting bolts. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:23 | |
What would happen is, they would slacked those bolts off, | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
reposition the tailgate until it's right, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
fasten them up, keep checking them. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
Then, once it's all right, put a little bit of paint again. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
You can actually see the marks, it's called tooling marks. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:40 | |
-That means there's been a realignment process carried out. -OK. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:44 | |
That process should've been carried out prior to you buying the car. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:50 | |
-At the factory. -At the factory. -Yeah, OK. -If there was an issue | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
with alignment, all they had to do was slacken those bolts off, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
reposition them, tighten them up again, | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
-keep checking until it's within tolerances. -Right. OK. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
Clearly, they haven't done it. What's it taken to get there? | 0:35:03 | 0:35:07 | |
It's taken the pre-delivery inspection not being carried out properly. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
It's taken you to bring it to their attention. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
-Unfortunately, you've had to nag them. It's not very good, is it? -No. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
'And what does John think of the alignment of the car right now?' | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
-Clearly, it's a lot better than it was before. -A lot better. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
But it's not 100%. But what can you do? | 0:35:25 | 0:35:30 | |
I think this is probably as far as you're going to get. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
But it's not 100%, as I say. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
The engineer from Ford said that, without cutting panels and welding, | 0:35:36 | 0:35:40 | |
they couldn't improve it any more. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:41 | |
It shouldn't have been allowed to have been sold in that condition. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
Given the other problems you've had with the car | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
in that very short space of time, | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
-I think you've got a great case to reject the car. -Yeah. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:56 | |
It really confirmed what we said all along that it was down | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
to the way it was built in the first place, which isn't my fault. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
I shouldn't have to deal with that. It's down to Ford. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
It's clear that, occasionally, even a brand-new car can have its faults. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:11 | |
But if you've shelled out your hard-earned cash for something as pricey as a new motor, | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
what are your rights when things go wrong? | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
'Rachel's been disputing the issues with her car for months now.' | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
'All she wants is to hand it back with no cost to her.' | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
'But does the Sale Of Goods Act apply to her situation?' | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
'I contacted a motoring expert to find out.' | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
If your new car doesn't meet the conditions | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
set out in the Sale Of Goods Act, | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
then you are within your rights to reject it. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
If you've lost confidence in a vehicle, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
because it's been repaired lots of times | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
and the repair wasn't successful, or if the fault continues to occur, | 0:36:49 | 0:36:54 | |
then you may want to reject the vehicle. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
If it can be proven that the dealer | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
has been unsuccessful in repairing the car, | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
then he must replace it for you. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
'But what if the dealer says there's nothing wrong with it?' | 0:37:05 | 0:37:09 | |
If a dealer has repaired your car | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
and you're not happy with the repairs, you don't believe it's worked, or was done badly, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:17 | |
and the dealer disagrees, then it may be worth you seeking a second opinion. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
'In Rachel's case, a second Ford dealer did look at the car | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
'and did everything they could to fix it.' | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
'But there was only so much they could do.' | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
'With Rachel still not happy, | 0:37:29 | 0:37:30 | |
'I think it's return time. But what about those timescales?' | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
'Rachel didn't complain straightaway because she was busy getting married.' | 0:37:34 | 0:37:39 | |
The Sale Of Goods Act says that you must reject a new car within a reasonable time. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:44 | |
It doesn't actually specify what that time is. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
But I think common sense applies. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
If a fault is visible, for example, the paintwork is the wrong colour, | 0:37:49 | 0:37:54 | |
that's something very obvious and you'll notice it immediately and you should act immediately. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:59 | |
However, not all faults are visible, | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
if they're mechanical or electrical. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
If this is the case, you wouldn't be expected to know about them immediately. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
But, basically, as soon as you are aware of the fault, | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
you should act on it. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
'So you can return a car that is still faulty after repairs.' | 0:38:15 | 0:38:20 | |
'That's good news for any car buyer.' | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
'Now, though, it's time to head back to see Rachel to find out | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
'more about the offer Ford and Evans Halshaw have made.' | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
'Is it enough to put a smile back on her face?' | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
-Hi, again, Rach, how are you doing? -Good to see you. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
-Can I come in? -Come on in. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
-Rachel, there's quite a lot happened since I got involved. -Certainly has. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:46 | |
-Ford have got involved and started to pay more attention to you. -Yes. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
That's what we need. That's what you should've got from day one. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
-You weren't happy with the service you received, were you? -Not at all. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
I was constantly ringing, emailing, sending letters, photographs, videos, | 0:38:57 | 0:39:02 | |
trying to make them realise that there is a problem with this car and they need to sort it out. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
Something I wanted to do was get an independent report. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
I'm glad you were able to witness that. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
-Talk me through what the guy said to you. -Well, he summarised | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
that it happened at the factory. It was the way the car was built. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
Apart from that, he said it was not something you'd expect from a new car. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:23 | |
He knows, he's seen the pictures, he knows what I've been through. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
He summed up that, if he'd have bought that car brand-new, | 0:39:27 | 0:39:31 | |
he'd have rejected it immediately. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
When you hear that from an independent expert, | 0:39:33 | 0:39:35 | |
-it cements what you tried to do as soon as you noticed the problems. -Exactly. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
You doubt yourself. You start to think, "Am I being unreasonable?" | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
We know that, for months, we've been accommodating and patient. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
We're not asking too much of Ford, we're asking them to replace the car. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
I think you're right. At the end of the day, | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
you had a car that was a Friday afternoon one. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
But it never should have reached you, the end user, the customer. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
-Ford have contacted you directly, haven't they? -Yes, they have. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
-That's since I got involved. -Uh-huh. -Since I rattled their cage. -Yeah. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
And since I said, "Give her her money back." | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
What have they said to you? | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
We received a letter saying that they will give us a full refund | 0:40:10 | 0:40:15 | |
of both our deposit and the value of the part exchange, | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
which, obviously, we're very happy with. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
'Bingo! Just the news I was hoping for.' | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
'It's a really positive result for Rachel.' | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
'A full refund will be paid by Evans Halshaw, the dealer who sold her the car.' | 0:40:26 | 0:40:31 | |
'This means, Rachel will be able to start again with a clean sheet.' | 0:40:31 | 0:40:35 | |
'And I'm pretty sure this time when she chooses her new motor, | 0:40:35 | 0:40:39 | |
'it'll be getting her own pre-delivery inspection.' | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
As it stands now, you've wiped your hands of the car, | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
you've given it back, you're getting all your money back. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
Very happy and grateful for your involvement and everything you've done. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:52 | |
Because it took me seven months to get nowhere. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
-As soon as you get involved, it seems that they came up with the answer that we wanted. -Yeah. | 0:40:55 | 0:41:00 | |
But, this is what annoys me about a lot of big companies, | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
you should be able to do that yourself and very easily. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
Send a message to them now. What would you suggest they do in a situation like that again? | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
Improve the customer service. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
If it's something that's down to the way the car was built, | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
replace the car, it's Ford's problem, it isn't the customer's problem. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:21 | |
-Will you every buy Ford again? -Never. And I will never let a friend or family buy a Ford. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
Which is a shame. A big shame, because they're a big manufacturer and very good and well respected. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:31 | |
-But they've let themselves down in this one. -Definitely. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
'We spoke to Ford and they told us...' | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
'They also said...' | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
'We also spoke to dealer Evans Halshaw, who said...' | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
I'm so grateful and very happy in the end. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
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