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We save up all year for our two weeks in the sun.

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But, like anything, holidays can go badly wrong.

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A delayed flight, shabby accommodation,

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it could all ruin your precious break.

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I feel really deceived because we thought

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that the rep was there to help us.

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And then there are the scams.

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Tricks and cons that are waiting to catch you out.

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You don't realise something untoward is going on behind your back.

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If you know what to look out for, you can avoid the holiday from hell.

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-So we're here to make sure you..

-..Don't get done in the sun.

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Coming up on today's show...

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We meet holidaymakers whose idea of a four-star hotel

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was very different to the one they actually got.

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I got an ear infection, which didn't surprise me.

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Basically, he said, "You got that from the pool."

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I'll be hitting the Spanish streets, prescribing the right medicine

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for Brits who find themselves ill overseas.

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Do the doctors or hospital benefit from doing that?

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The answer is yes.

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Choosing the right hotel can be a bit of a minefield.

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But at least we've got star ratings to help us out.

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So if you're backpacking and all you need is a bed for the night,

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then a one-star should be fine.

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And if you fancy a bit of luxury,

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there's nothing quite like a bit of five-star treatment.

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Unfortunately, though, things aren't always what they seem.

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The star-rating system of hotels

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is something we all take a little for granted.

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We think we know how it works and what you're going to be getting for your money, right?

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My perception of a four-star would be to be

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pretty clean, tidy.

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Something four-star in my head is quite high really.

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Meet Eric and Linda Fairbairn from East Yorkshire.

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Both work full-time, so they love a well-deserved holiday.

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And when they go to one of their favourite holiday destinations,

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like Lanzarote, they always choose a certain star rating.

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We've stayed at some really nice four-star hotels.

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The facilities are really good.

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They have nice pools.

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The food is good.

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In August 2012, the couple deviated from their norm of booking in the local travel agent,

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and went on the internet to see what options were available.

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Eric found several travel agent websites

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offering a hotel he liked the look of.

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And so he gave one of the companies a call.

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He rang Media Travel to find out the basics about the holiday.

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And the chap he spoke to recommended it

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and said it was an excellent place to go.

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Eric booked a two-week holiday to a four-star hotel

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called the Blue Sea Corbeta in Playa Blanca, Lanzarote,

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at a total cost of £1,187.40.

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And both he and Linda thought it was money well spent.

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Eric told him that we wanted no less than a four-star hotel,

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because we felt it important.

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They bought the holiday over the phone

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with an agent called mediatravel.co.uk

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which is a subsidiary of a company called Truly Travel Ltd.

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Neither of which are to be confused with similar sounding companies.

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They were under the impression that they'd booked a package holiday with them.

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And all they had to do was enjoy.

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Got off the plane. Blue sky.

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Sun's out.

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Looking forward to getting to the accommodation.

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As we're walking in, on the sign outside on the signage,

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it's got the Corbeta, three-star.

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I asked at the reception, "Where's the Blue Sea Corbeta?"

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"Well, you're here."

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"The Blue Sea Corbeta's four-star. Have you lost one of your stars?"

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There was no answer to that.

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But it was the couple who were going to be the ones left speechless next.

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First impressions of the room, when we finally found it,

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was a nightmare. I thought the floor was sloping or I was sloping.

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But it was the doors that were sloping.

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The fridge door was just rust, thick ice.

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The cupboard doors and the drawers were hanging off.

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There was a little stove that had two rings on

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that didn't work.

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And it just looked absolutely filthy.

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I don't think anybody would have been used to anything like that.

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Especially when you're expecting four stars.

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Sadly, the rundown feel continued.

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All the paint was bubbling off the side of the pool so that,

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when you sat on it, you got cream paint

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stuck all over you.

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And, when you got to look a bit deeper, it was very dirty.

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After a few days, I got an ear infection.

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I had to go and find a doctor in town.

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Basically, he said, "You got that from the pool," which didn't surprise me.

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The amount of paint I'd taken out of my shorts from the pool,

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there might have been paint in my ear for all I know.

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The couple decided to try and grin and bear it.

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But the question is, how could they have been sold a four-star hotel

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that looked flash on the website,

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but it then advertises itself on the ground as a three-star?

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In reality, the couple thought it was more like a one or two.

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Where has the star-rating system gone wrong?

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I asked the consumer watchdog Which?

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How useful is the star-rating system these days?

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The fact is, anybody can set up a star-rating system.

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From proper organisations,

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through to chains of hotels, through to an individual hotel.

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So one star-rating system doesn't equal another star-rating system.

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Which? thinks there needs to be an industry standard and consumers agree with us.

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So, what, an individual hotel can say it's a four-star?

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Any hotel can set up a website, can slap any number of stars on there.

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Unless you have a real understanding of what that star system is,

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you can be taken in by, frankly,

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misleading advertising around the quality of that hotel.

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I agree. And in Eric and Linda's case, they think their star rating

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was so off the mark that they had, effectively, been lied to.

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I don't know how they rate their stars.

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I think somebody needs to actually go and stay there,

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who gives them the stars because they've got it totally wrong.

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So, what's the Association of British Travels Agents' take

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on the couple's confusion over the different star ratings?

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Why isn't there a universal star system,

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so that everybody knows what they're getting?

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We did push for a number of years for at least there being

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a consistent star system throughout the European Union.

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That proved very difficult.

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The problem is, you have to get different countries all to agree on the same standards.

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What does it mean if you don't have an ironing board in the room?

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Does it mean an extra star or lose a star?

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I mean, things as simple as that do make a big difference.

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And that's the main reason why tour operators

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usually ignore local star-rating systems,

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because they don't think they're consistent, and use their own.

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Of course, there's an element of subjectivity about what exactly is a four-star hotel.

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But, clearly, if somebody is saying to you it's a four-star hotel,

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you should be expecting a fairly high level of service.

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Well, Linda and Eric did, but look what it got them.

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And if ABTA took on the ratings system and gave up,

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it doesn't fill you with much hope.

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Plus, with tour operators and hotels making up their own,

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you'd just better hope your customers agree with you.

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You just want a four-star holiday.

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Having had previous four-star holidays,

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this was a big major let down for the pair of us.

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And once back in the UK, after a rather trying holiday,

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the couple contacted Media Travel to complain about the hotel.

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But they were in for another surprise. Media Travel told them

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it wasn't their responsibility to answer their complaints.

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If you're booking through a company, you expect for that company

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to take full responsibility of what you've paid for.

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You don't expect there to be four or five different other companies involved.

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Later on, we'll find out who was actually responsible for Eric and Linda's holiday

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and discover they're not the only ones expecting four-star but getting sub-par.

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Chips, rice and cauliflower. Don't expect anything else.

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This is all you get, breakfast, lunch, dinner.

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We all have our favourite ways to unwind on holiday.

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This is mine.

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Mmm! Bliss! Whatever yours is,

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it's unlikely to involve a visit to the doctor's.

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Rani Price, please.

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But, unfortunately, illness and accidents can come out of the blue

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and there's nothing stopping that happening on holiday.

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The British Foreign Office conducted a survey in 2012

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and it showed that up to 70 Brits are hospitalised every week abroad.

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So, do you know what to do if the worst should happen?

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The big worry, you get on holiday, someone gets sick, what are you going to do?

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Um, straight to the doctor's, I suppose.

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So you'd think that going to the doctor is big business abroad.

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And tourists can seem like easy targets for scams

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and doctors fiddling the system to make a fast buck.

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To find out more, I've come to meet a British expat doctor in the know.

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-Dr Paul? Hi.

-Nice to meet you.

-And you.

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-Would you like to come through?

-Thank you very much.

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First things first. Are we right to worry about the quality of the healthcare

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we could potentially be receiving whilst abroad?

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You get poorly, are you going to be well looked after then?

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I would say, probably in the majority of cases, you are, yes.

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Occasionally, people will over-investigate you.

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You'll come in and say, "I have got a bit of chest pain."

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And they will say, "Oh, really? Better do an ECG."

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"We'd better do this test and that test."

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And, at the end of it, they say, "No, it was just indigestion."

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Rather than the heart attack they were suggesting it might be.

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Do the doctors or hospital benefit from doing that?

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The answer is yes. If it's reasonable,

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and it can be argued to be reasonable, then insurers will pay.

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And so I see 5,000 euros' worth of bill of tests.

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But maybe you didn't need them.

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And, as you say, we all end up paying for that

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-as travel insurance goes up.

-Ultimately, we all pay.

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Insurance premiums rising is one thing,

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but over-treatment to line the pockets of private doctors

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could prove a horrible way to spend your holiday.

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Well, let's give you an example.

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You're on holiday with your family and your little five-year-old,

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who's been in the pool five million times,

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and he's now got an ear infection and he mustn't fly.

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Not only that, he needs some antibiotics.

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And not only that, he needs them injected.

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So he needs to come in every single day for five days.

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And so you're back and forth to this clinic.

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-It's not much of a holiday, then, is it?

-Exactly.

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And the private doctor can bill your insurance company

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for a more expensive course of treatment than you actually needed

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when some tablets would have done the trick.

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There have even been stories of un-needed operations

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all due to this over-treating scam.

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And should you need to go to hospital, beware,

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because ambulances can work differently abroad.

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And if you've got a private ambulance, they will have a fee.

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Often they will be not associated necessarily with the hospital

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or with the doctor, that will be a separate company.

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They will probably want paid immediately in cash.

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-Right.

-I have known, and I know this sounds remarkable,

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but I have known people ill in an ambulance and that ambulance stopping

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at ATM machines for people to take out money to pay for the ambulance.

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And the cost is high. The cost for a private ambulance is several

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hundred euros, even to take you five miles.

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You have to ask yourself, "Do I actually need an ambulance?"

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"Or would a taxi do the trick?" All sound advice.

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Thanks, Dr Paul.

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No-one wants to get ill on holiday but at least Paul's told us

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what we need to know in case it happens to you.

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Later on, I'll find out all you need to know to ensure your medical bills

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are covered, so you don't go home with a whopping bill

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or a pointless plaster cast.

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I didn't get a European Health Card, which I should have done.

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When you're deciding which hotel to stay in,

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the number of stars it has can help you make your choice.

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But, as we've seen, it's not always that simple.

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As there's no actual universal star-rating system

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that exists in Europe and beyond.

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And this can mislead consumers in a big way.

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Meet 25-year-old Katie from Hertfordshire.

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She fancied a last-minute birthday getaway with a friend to Turkey.

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It was an all-inclusive four-star hotel

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for a week and it was supposed to have everything we would need there.

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The holiday cost her just shy of 700 quid.

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And with the four-star all-inclusive tag, she had it all planned.

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We wanted to get pampered whilst there, enjoy ourselves

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and just know we could chill out at this hotel, not have to go anywhere.

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Everything was catered for.

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So, would her hotel be the four-star quality she was hoping for?

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The £700 price tag for the whole holiday

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would certainly make me suspicious.

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But on their arrival at the Sun Love Hotel in Marmaris,

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Katie and her friend were tired after the flight

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and just wanted to check in and chill out.

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So we went inside and it was, like, dirty sheets,

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ripped sheets, no toilet roll.

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No towels, except for a dirty towel that was down the side.

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There was a TV that didn't even work.

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There was no kind of... You couldn't...

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In an all-inclusive you'd expect a kettle. There was nothing like that.

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This certainly doesn't sound like four stars by anyone's standard.

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As we've seen, there's no universal star system.

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The difference between a one and a five-star may be obvious,

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but everything in between can be a bit of a gamble.

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Maybe the Association of Independent Tour Operators

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can provide the answers.

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Let's talk about the hotel-rating system.

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It's a bit of a dog's dinner, really, isn't it?

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Absolutely. You can't even get the UK tourist boards

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to agree on what a star-rating system should be.

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And I heard a very funny tale about hotels in Cyprus.

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Apparently, the only way you can get to be a five-star hotel

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is if you have A - a spa and B - 250 car-parking spaces.

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So you can be a brilliant four-star hotel there,

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but if you don't have those two attributes,

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you won't make it to five-star.

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But there is some hope.

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In order to provide some uniformity, many of the big suppliers

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have created their own rating system for hotels they work with.

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I'm checking out three big players on the internet to see how they rate

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their hotels. First up, lastminute.com,

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who, although they're simply an agent for the hotels, use stars from one to five.

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But what do those stars actually mean?

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You have to look really hard in the small print.

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"Please note that all ratings shown on the website are our ratings and not official ratings."

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At least we know all their four-star hotels should be the same quality.

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On Thomas Cook's website, it isn't stars on offer but what look like little suns.

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We spoke to Thomas Cook and they told us,

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"Tour operators' universal ratings are usually based on the views

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"taken from customer feedback and of senior managers in both the UK and overseas."

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At least they're putting it on the line

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what their ratings... where they come from.

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Next, opodo.co.uk.

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In their T and Cs, they say,

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"We offer star ratings as a general guide. You should be aware

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"that these are not necessarily the official local rating

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"and that standards can vary between hotels and accommodation of the same class

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"in different countries and even in the same country."

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At least they warn you about the potential discrepancies in the star ratings.

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We asked opodo.co.uk for their take on the current system.

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They told us that,

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"The system can be open to abuse as hotel ratings can be improved

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"simply by adding facilities

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"rather than adding quality for the customer."

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Not good news for us holidaymakers.

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But these days, more of us are cutting out the big agents and booking direct.

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Then your best resource for up-to-date information is often other customer reviews.

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And the biggest independent review site is Trip Advisor.

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But are customer reviews any more reliable?

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There are people who say this is a system that is open to abuse.

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You've got competitors writing dismal reviews.

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You've got owners writing glowing reviews.

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How do you try and combat that?

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We have a dedicated team of people making sure that

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all of the reviews that make it on to the site are checked.

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If it's found not to meet our guidelines,

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it will be removed from the site.

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But, nonetheless, fake and non-genuine reviews do get through.

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Of course. When you've got 100 million reviews on the site,

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there will always be room for one or two to slip through the cracks.

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Most hotels have hundreds of reviews written about them.

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So if you can see that one hotel has 99 glowing reviews

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and then one really bad negative review,

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you'll use your common sense and you'll say, "Hold on a minute."

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"That one doesn't quite fit in with all of the others."

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"I'm going to discard that one from my research and focus on what the masses think."

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Katie didn't buy her holiday in Marmaris with one of the major operators.

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And she could probably have done a bit more research before booking.

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There was, like, the counters with the holes in for the food to go in,

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I think there was just some chips, some rice and some cauliflower.

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And that was it. No drinks, nothing.

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We were like, "What do we do?"

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The guys that were already there were just like,

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"Don't expect anything else."

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"This is all you get, breakfast, lunch, dinner."

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I was like, "What, chips, rice and cauliflower?"

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They're like, "Yep." I was like, "Great."

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Katie spent over £200 on phone calls to her agent

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to get the company to move them.

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And they ended up in a three-star hotel

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that was nicer than the four-star they had just left.

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And this is the industry's problem in a nutshell. No consistency.

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Luckily, something's being done by a pan-European organisation

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that has both the industry's and consumers' interests at heart.

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HOTREC is the European Association of Hotels, Restaurants and Cafes.

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It represents the interests of the hospitality sector.

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We took the initiative in 2007

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to launch a common hotel specification system.

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In 2010, the system started to be properly implemented.

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And we have already 12 countries adhering to this system.

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Rolling out the Hotelstars Union system is no easy feat.

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Hotels are judged on over 270 criteria

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in order to get their new rating.

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But it's for the benefit of us all.

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The industry was calling for these changes because, of course,

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the industry realises that having a harmonised system

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offers a lot of advantages to European consumers.

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Because, like that, consumers have a guarantee of a certain level

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of expectation for each star system when they travel abroad.

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Sounds fantastic. And the organisation's hard work

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couldn't come a moment too soon for disgruntled customers.

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Coming up, we find out what both our holidaymakers' travel agents have to say for themselves.

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There are loads of things to look forward to on holiday,

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but getting ill isn't one of them.

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And it can happen to any one of us.

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So you need to know what you're doing or else you could come unstuck.

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We found out earlier that getting ill overseas can be a costly business

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and a waste of your time, because some private doctors are out to maximise their profits

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by over-treating tourists and sending an inflated bill to their insurance company.

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But without health insurance, you are still covered if you hold an EHIC.

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We should all come on holiday with a European Health Card

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because that entitles you,

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in the European Community, to reciprocal healthcare.

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And they are free from the NHS.

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But do the holidaying Brits know this?

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-Do you have your EHIC card?

-I have an E111 and I have my travel insurance.

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Well, I'm sorry to tell you that the E111 hasn't been valid since 2006.

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The European Health Insurance Card has replaced it.

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Yeah, and we also have the E111 cards as well.

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It's better safe than sorry.

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There we go again. It's not E111.

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It's EHIC. Holding an EHIC card

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entitles you to free healthcare abroad, as countries within the EU

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have an agreement to treat each other's citizens

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should they fall ill or have an accident.

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-Everyone in the family needs one.

-OK.

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And it needs to be in date because they only have a five-year life.

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But not everything is covered.

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If you needed mountain rescue to get you off a hillside

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and to a hospital, the EHIC wouldn't cover this cost.

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And that could cost you.

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A good-quality travel insurance policy will enable you

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to get back to the UK even if that requires a private air ambulance.

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A private air ambulance could cost up to ten grand or more

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to repatriate you from Spain to the UK.

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But there are other, less extreme events

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where an EHIC only protects so far.

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They give little Johnny his pills and say,

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"Here's the medicine for his ear infection."

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"But he mustn't fly for three days."

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And you're going home tomorrow.

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So if you'd had some private insurance,

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you can stay with your son, because he's not allowed to go and fly for three days.

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The rest of your family can go back on their normal flight.

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You can have your hotel room paid for.

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Travel insurance would also cover needing an interpreter during your stay in hospital.

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Again, that's not covered by an EHIC.

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This is why you need travel insurance on top.

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But a Foreign Office survey showed nearly half of all Brits abroad

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didn't know they wouldn't be covered for some medical treatment without insurance.

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I get health insurance, or travel insurance, through my bank.

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I rely on that. But I didn't get a European Health Card,

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which, apparently, I should've done.

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Yes, you should have. But it's good to hear you've got insurance.

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Dr Paul can't stress it enough.

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Make sure you get some insurance.

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-Mm-hm.

-And when you contract the insurance,

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make sure you're completely honest

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with any pre-existing conditions with regards to yourself.

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I'm going to be a lot more aware when I go on holiday.

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But, whilst I'm here, can you have a look at my ear? I've been swimming.

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I've been stargazing at the muddled universe

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of the star-rating system for hotels.

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The vast majority of hotels around the world

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have some sort of star rating.

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But the thing is, because there's no consistency among countries and tour operators,

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consumers can end up with a ruined holiday on their hands.

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But you can fight back. Here's what you need to know about complaining,

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so you and your hotel don't end up star-crossed.

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Stars not to standard. If you arrive at your destination

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and the reality doesn't match what you were sold,

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complain straightaway to either your rep or hotel manager.

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Give them the chance to sort the issues out.

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The camera never lies.

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Photograph all the things you have issue with to back up your case.

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Be realistic. If you're paying £250 for a week all-inclusive,

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that is pretty cheap. Can you really expect

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that £35 a day will buy you the real four-star treatment?

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I'm afraid, sometimes, you get what you pay for.

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It's six months since Eric and Linda's Lanzarote holiday.

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They wrote to Truly Travel Ltd to complain,

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believing they'd been misled on the quality of the hotel.

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But were told it wasn't their responsibility

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and pointed them to a paragraph on their booking form.

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On page eight of 19 it says,

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"Truly Travel are acting sub-agents for Globe Travel.

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"Globe Travel are acting as an agent for Medhotels

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"who, in turn, are acting as an agent for the Blue Sea Corbeta

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"with whom your accommodation is booked."

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"Your contract is with Blue Sea Corbeta

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"whose terms and condition apply."

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Blimey!

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Their 19-page booking confirmation basically laid out that,

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although the couple had paid Truly Travel one fee,

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the company was simply an agent

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and had booked the individual elements on the couple's behalf

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and were not responsible for any of them.

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Confused? So were Eric and Linda.

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When we booked our holiday through Media Travel,

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we expected that holiday to be booked through them.

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We didn't realise at the time

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that it has gone through various other holiday companies.

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We sent the couple's photos of the hotel to Truly Travel,

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who forwarded them to the hotel supplier medhotels.com,

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who were the company who actually gave the four-star rating in the first place.

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We sent Eric and Linda their response.

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"With regard to the photographs,

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"I have now had the opportunity to examine them carefully

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"and, while there is some wear and tear,

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"they do not particularly, to my mind, demonstrate that the hotel

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"was operating below the required standard.

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"It is regretted that Mr Fairbairn is not in agreement with this. Regards, Sue."

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That is atrocious. What is she looking at?

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It's unbelievable. What were they looking at?

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Katie Sutcliffe's Turkey four-star holiday

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left her over £600 out of pocket

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due to phone calls, paying for her food

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and downgrading to a three-star hotel.

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Bookableholidays.com said her booking was direct with the hotel.

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And offered her £75 compensation.

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We asked them to review Katie's case.

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They said...

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"We were surprised to hear that Mrs Sutcliffe's hotel didn't live up to expectations,

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"as this is an extremely popular property and offers tremendous value

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"at just £29 per person per night

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"for a four-star all-inclusive hotel in Turkey.

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"We continually monitor and review all properties with all involved

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"to ensure these standards are achieved so that we can continue to offer outstanding value for money."

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Unfortunately, at this stage, Bookable Holidays

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haven't offered to better the £75 offer of compensation.

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Katie is not a happy camper.

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It's an absolute joke. I would never advise anyone to use them.

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Neither of our holidaymakers has been left exactly starry eyed

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by the answers their holiday companies have come up with.

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But you have been warned. Do your own research into any hotel

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and don't be dazzled by a star rating.

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