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Here's a problem that gets right under your skin! | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
From the day they turned up on the doorstep, | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
all they wanted was to make money. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
Sadly, this is a crime, which is just getting worse and worse! | 0:00:08 | 0:00:13 | |
The lengths this type of criminal go to is quite staggering. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
Unfortunately, it tends to be the most vulnerable people who take the brunt of it all. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:21 | |
He'd taken the most precious things that I still had from my husband. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:26 | |
Anything from rogue trade rip-off merchants to con artists who strike at your front door | 0:00:26 | 0:00:31 | |
and we're united against them. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
I think doorstep crime is a very serious crime. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
It's taking advantage of vulnerable people in their homes. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
It needs to be stopped abruptly, here and now. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
We really want to put a stop to doorstep crime | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
and name and shame the culprits! | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
We've been filming all over the UK | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
with award-winning police and Trading Standards teams | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
and we've been hearing from you, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
face to face and by letters and e-mails, | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
helping us in our campaign to shut out these cold calling con merchants. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:04 | |
On today's programme, find out how a pair of heartless con men | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
got their just desserts after scamming vulnerable consumers | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
with their overpriced mobility scooters. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
I asked him why he'd sold my father a scooter at the price that he had | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
and his response was, "Because I can," and he put the phone down. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
Plus, I meet a lovely lady | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
whose good nature almost led to a roofing rip off! | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
How can you feel sorry for people who were scamming you? | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
I don't know, I don't know. Just a weak moment, I suppose. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
And we're on the case with North Yorkshire Trading Standards | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
as they throw the book at a drain company. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
What we have here is CCTV footage inside Mr and Mrs Morris's drain. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
This trader had told the Morris's that he had removed all root growth from this drain | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
when that's actually clearly not the case. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
Hello and a here's thanks for all your e-mails | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
that I'm glad to say are still flooding in! | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
Now, both Brian Worsley in Swansea and Rachel Sharp in Melton Mowbray | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
have written to say that things would be so much easier | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
if there was a law to stop cold callers | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
and I have to say that is a very popular view. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
But we shouldn't forget that law enforcement agencies | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
are doing their very best to stop this type of activity. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
For instance, North Yorkshire Trading Standards, | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
who are determined to pull the plug on a very dodgy trade. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
It's November 2011 and Ruth Andrews, the local Trading Standards officer, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:36 | |
is at court for the trial of Julian Donoher - | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
a businessman who claimed to run a reputable drain clearance firm. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:45 | |
In fact, he was a con man | 0:02:45 | 0:02:46 | |
who thought nothing of defrauding dozens of unsuspecting people | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
out of many thousands of pounds. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
So, we're at Teesside Crown Court today | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
to see whether Julian Matthew Donoher is going to plead guilty | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
to multiple offences we've charged him with | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
for ripping off many people in relation to drainage work | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
and made them miserable. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
It was the beautiful and affluent spa town of Harrogate, in North Yorkshire, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
which became a target for one of Donoher's most audacious scams. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:14 | |
He advertised his services all across the UK | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
and one of his victims was former teacher Jane Morris, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
a clued up lady who found herself taken in by this dodgy trader. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:25 | |
'Every year we have to clear the drains' | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
because the leaves can congest by the cellar door and can back up | 0:03:27 | 0:03:32 | |
so we have a flooded cellar if we're not careful. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
But in the winter of 2010 the drain suffered one blockage after another. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:40 | |
Having backed up from here, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:41 | |
you get a complete flood all the way round here | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
and it goes through the door. After I'd cleared it up one day, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
the next time I came down there was just no way that I was going to do it again | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
and that's when we decided that we had to get some help. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
But Jane was about to embark upon a very expensive journey. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
Enter a dodgy drains firm, run by the aforementioned Julian Donoher. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:03 | |
He was more than happy to rip people off. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
They worked quite quickly and very fast | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
but they seemed to be efficient and charming | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
and I paid the cheque for £330, which they requested. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
Now, clearing a drain should only cost around £65 | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
but Jane had been charged almost five times that. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
With hindsight I now know it's far too much for the job | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
but I didn't know then. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:29 | |
As we all know, hindsight is a wonderful thing. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
Later we'll find out about more of the con tricks that Donoher's company played on Jane, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:37 | |
and we'll discover what his punishment will be | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
when the court reaches its decision. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
I have to say I just LOVE this technology! | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
Hello, my name's Vivienne Spence, I want to tell you what happened to me. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:52 | |
Two young men came to the door, | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
very presentable, dressed well and... | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
they scammed me. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
They gave false references and they really had me over like a kipper. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:07 | |
Thanks for all of that, Vivienne, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
we'll come back to you a bit later on in the programme | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
but first, a story from Nottinghamshire | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
which shows the depths some doorstep con men will sink to, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:18 | |
just to extort money from vulnerable consumers. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
Like lots of other UK towns, the residents of Nottingham | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
have had to contend with their fair share of doorstep crime. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
In this case a cruel father and son team | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
who've managed to swindle dozens of people to the tune of, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
wait for it, £31,000. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
People like that just, they just absolutely astound me. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
They didn't care who they victimised, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
it was all about generating income for them. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
One person who's been seriously affected by these doorstep con men | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
is Jacqueline O'Brien. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:53 | |
In January 2009 her 86-year-old dad Charles | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
was visited by a company called Nottingham Mobility - | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
not to be confused with reputable companies of the same name - | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
they were offering to sell him a new disability scooter. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
We first came into contact with Nottingham Mobility | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
when my father needed one of his scooters, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
that he already had, servicing. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
He has quite chronic arthritis, he gets confused, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
he's unsteady on his feet, hence needing a mobility scooter, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
but just trusting. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
Unfortunately, Jacqueline's dad proved the perfect quarry | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
for these particular rogue traders. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
Paul Gretton leads the East Midlands Scambusters, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
a team of Trading Standards officers who track rogue traders right across county borders | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
and who know, only too well, the type of scam | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
Nottingham Mobility was involved in. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
Typically they would cold call victims by telephone, | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
visit them in their homes and sell them a variety of mobility aids. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
Anything from a walking stick to a stair lift. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
They had no qualifications or any specialist knowledge, | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
so they would sell whatever they wanted to buy from them whether it was appropriate or not. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:04 | |
It wasn't long before Nottingham Mobility set their sights on Jacqueline's dad. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:10 | |
He'd been cold called by Laurence Johnson, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
who enticed him into paying £3,210 for a new scooter. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:17 | |
When Jacqueline spoke to her dad a couple of days later | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
it became clear that something was up. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
I asked my father how much he'd written a cheque for | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
and he had said he couldn't remember. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
And then I looked at the cheque stub, in my dad's cheque book, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
and realised it actually wasn't his writing that was on the cheque stub. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:38 | |
Suspicious at the strange writing on the cheque | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
and the amount of money her dad had paid, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
Jacqueline rang Laurence Johnson posing as a potential customer. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
So, I called him four or five times not telling him who I was | 0:07:47 | 0:07:52 | |
and on every quotation he quoted me a totally different price | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
to the one that he charged my father. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
Eventually I did tell him who I was | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
and asked him why he had sold my father a scooter | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
at the price that he had | 0:08:03 | 0:08:04 | |
and his response was, "Because I can," and he put the phone down. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
On any level, absolutely outrageous. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
In fact, the scooter should have cost Jacqueline's dad £1,695 | 0:08:11 | 0:08:16 | |
so he'd paid over twice what it was worth! | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
After threats of legal action from her solicitor were ignored, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
Jacqueline decided to take matters into her own hands | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
and contacted the local newspaper, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
which is when she received a visit from another member of the Johnson family, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:34 | |
Laurence's father, Shane. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:35 | |
He came to my home and met with me, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
said that he was absolutely disappointed in his son, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
said he'd got no people skills, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
that he would reimburse my father the difference | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
between what the scooter could be sold at, at £1,600, | 0:08:48 | 0:08:53 | |
to what my father paid for it. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:54 | |
Great result! So, Charles was about to get a refund of £1,600. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:59 | |
Well, guess what? | 0:09:01 | 0:09:02 | |
No money was reimbursed, | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
although Jacqueline's Dad did get a one year service cover | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
worth a paltry £70! | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
So, the time had come to call Trading Standards, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
who soon made an unfortunate discovery. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
One of the officers was actually at my father's flat | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
and discovered that he'd bought another scooter | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
from a different mobility company | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
but the Trading Standards Officer actually recognised it as being | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
the same company under a different name. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
Unbelievable! | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
Not content with conning Charles out of over £1,600 | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
for a scooter he didn't need, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
those charming Johnsons had returned just months later to rip him off again | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
to the tune of well over £3,000. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
For Jacqueline it was the final straw. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
This feisty lady was so furious she put aside any thoughts of personal safety | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
and went to the Johnson's home for a showdown | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
determined to claim back the thousands of pounds | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
they'd stung her dad for. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
Mr Johnson tried to tell me that | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
my father knew exactly what he was doing, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
that there was no pressure selling in any way, shape or form. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
I was getting very cross at the arrogant manner of him, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
that he was just disregarding everything that we were saying, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
could absolutely see that he'd done no wrong whatsoever, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
while he's sat in his beautiful home telling me he didn't rip people off. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
Before she left the house, Johnson senior promised Jacqueline that | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
he would reimburse her dad's money in instalments. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
But, you've guessed it, after just two payments it all went quiet. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:35 | |
Trading Standards were on the Johnson's trail | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
and they soon learned that their victims were helping to fund | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
a very lavish lifestyle indeed. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
We discovered, for example, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
that they'd been driving a Maserati and a Porsche, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
which they'd leased, which were very expensive cars | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
and they needed to generate enough income to pay for things like that. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
The only way they could keep this lifestyle going for any period of time | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
was simply to go to the victims, take their cash off them | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
and not supply the product. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:01 | |
So, it left a lot of people in a sad state indeed. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
Well, after an extraordinary two-and-a-half-year struggle | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
an exhausted Jacqueline was finally able to see this pair of door stepping deceivers in court. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:16 | |
Shane Johnson and his son Laurence were jailed for 12 months | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
for their heartless £31,000 scam. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:24 | |
I think the important thing here is it's sent out a message | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
to other traders in this market | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
that they have to trade honestly and decently | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
because we don't want more of these cases, we want less of them. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
We want the good companies and for the bad people to be off the streets. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
Fighting back against these con men has been difficult | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
but ultimately satisfying for Jacqueline | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
and she's keen that others don't fall prey to doorstep criminals like her father did. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:50 | |
There are, and I know there are, a lot of reputable companies out there | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
and I suggest that people check them out before they purchase anything from them. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
Later we hear another shocking story, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
when this lady found herself conned into roof repairs she didn't need. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
Do you think this would've happened if your husband were here? | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
It would never have happened, no, without a doubt. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
I've had an encouraging e-mail from Tim Page of Sussex. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
Like hundreds of people all over the country, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
he's a local Neighbourhood Watch co-ordinator | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
and he points out that in large rural areas | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
it's very hard to keep tabs on everyone | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
but local knowledge is crucial. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
And he runs an e-mail and phone system every day | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
to keep people as safe as he can. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
I think that's utterly brilliant, Tim, keep up the good work! | 0:12:39 | 0:12:43 | |
Well, now it's time to return to North Yorkshire | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
and discover what other cons lay in store | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
for former teacher Jane Morris, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
when crooks tackled her house drains | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
Now, if you remember, back in the winter of 2010, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
Julian Donoher charged Jane Morris almost five times the going rate | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
to unblock her drains. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
She thought that would be the end of it | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
but, a week later, her drains blocked again. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
So Donoher returned to make sure the job was properly fixed. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
'They said, "We'd better put a camera down.".' | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
They showed me what the camera showed, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
which was that there were lots of roots down, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
said they'd need to put resin down the pipes so they could resolve it but it would cost £5,500. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:27 | |
I said, "That's an awful lot of money, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
"could we get it cheaper somewhere else?", | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
and they said, "Oh, that's the rate for the job.". | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
And they were so charming and convincing | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
that I'm afraid I believed them. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
Pardon me? £5,500 to put resin down a pipe?! Extraordinary! | 0:13:40 | 0:13:45 | |
Though she sensed something was wrong, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
Jane regrets not acting on her instincts | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
because it gave Donoher the chance to set up his most devious con yet | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
but first he had to lay the groundwork. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
The men were there for four days digging. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
It was an enormous hole and very hard work. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
We weren't really suspicious because we didn't know where the pipe was | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
and they couldn't find it, we thought they were doing the best they could. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
They kept digging for three days, I think, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
and all the time I was giving them tea and coffee | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
and home-made cakes and things | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
because it was nasty weather and they needed a bit of support, I thought. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:26 | |
The workmen said they were having difficulty locating the damaged drain | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
so they ended up digging a 12 foot hole in the garden | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
but on the fourth day they seemed to have sorted the problem. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:37 | |
I went to see them | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
and was surprised that they appeared to be in-filling the hole. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
And said, "Have you found the pipe then?", to which they didn't answer | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
but from behind the gate, a fellow held up a section of pipe, with the resin in, with yellow resin in, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:53 | |
and said, "Oh, it dries very quickly once you, once you put it in." | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
And with hindsight, I realise they didn't answer my question about whether they'd found the pipe | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
but anyway, within an hour they'd filled up and put the new paving back down | 0:15:01 | 0:15:06 | |
and had come to ask me for the cheque. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
So, Jane paid the full £5,500 in two cheques | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
and decided to try and claim the job from her insurance company, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
but nothing could have prepared her for the shocks that lay in store | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
when they came to assess the tradesmen's work. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
Well, I hope you can stay with us | 0:15:26 | 0:15:27 | |
because Jane's experiences are a real eye-opener for us all | 0:15:27 | 0:15:32 | |
but first, I have an appointment with Vivienne, whom we saw earlier in that video. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:37 | |
Now, Trading Standards were able to help her deal with problem roofers | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
all thanks to a mystery benefactor | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
During the bitterly cold winter of 2010, | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
75-year-old widow Vivienne Spence had no idea that rogue traders | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
were operating in her beautiful home county of Buckinghamshire. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
Sadly, it's something that Timothy Day | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
of the County Council Trading Standards department is all too aware of. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:04 | |
We estimate that, per year, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:05 | |
there's roughly £5 million of consumer detriment | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
caused by this type of crime. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
That doesn't factor in additional costs, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:11 | |
such as remedying the work | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
where it was of such a poor quality it needed redoing. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
The statistics are shocking, to say the least, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
so I've come to find out exactly what happened | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
when a rogue roofing company came knocking at Vivienne's door. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
So, Vivienne, take me back to that day when those guys came to call, | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
where were you, what exactly were you doing? | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
I was just around the house, really, | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
and I went to the door, I opened it up, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
and I saw these young men who looked very clean and nice. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
So, what did they say to you about doing work around your house? | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
They said my roof needed seeing to and it was a mess | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
and that they'd take the moss off for me and it all needed tidying up. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
So, I thought, "Fair enough." | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
What did they quote you originally? | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
About £900, I think. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
It was a lot of money and I said, "I can't possibly afford that." | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
I just wasn't going to pay that sort of money. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
As her late husband Stan handled everything to do with the upkeep of the home, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:08 | |
Vivienne was incredibly susceptible to being ripped off | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
but, to her credit, even she knew that £900 just to remove some moss and repoint a few bricks | 0:17:11 | 0:17:17 | |
was an extortionate amount of money. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
so she stood firm and negotiated a price that she was happy to pay. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
Eventually they agreed on £550. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
I, sort of, got into conversation with them | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
and they said they could furnish me with references, which I requested. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
What kind of references did they give you? | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
One was a written reference... | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
and the other one was just a telephone reference, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
so I was quite happy. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:41 | |
-Did you telephone this person? -Yes, I did. I spoke to this gentleman | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
and he said, "Oh, yes, they're very nice guys.". | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
Did you not think that it could just be a scam? | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
I thought they were young, starting out in business, give 'em a break. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
Did they give you a written contract of any kind? | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
Yes, they did, they gave me this piece of paper, | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
I can't remember exactly what it was | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
but I was quite satisfied that they were going to do the job. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
As a good natured soul who sees the best in everybody, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
Vivienne had been reeled in hook, line and sinker | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
by these door-stepping charmers. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
Unfortunately, it's something that happens far too often. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
Traders will deliberately target people | 0:18:19 | 0:18:20 | |
they think can get away with this kind of thing with, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
so this tends to be the people who generally don't know the price of home improvement work | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
or can't check the work for themselves. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
Particularly with roofing work, if they're working on houses | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
where people have, perhaps, got a disability | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
or they're elderly or any way they can't check the work for themselves | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
then there's a certain amount of trust and the traders can easily exploit it. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
Vivienne's experience of these opportunistic scam merchants was no different. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
Within a matter of minutes of answering her door, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
they'd gained her trust, pressured her into a contract | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
and now work was about to commence. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
Had they actually carried out a big inspection? | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
I mean, were you clear in your mind that they had inspected it...? | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
Well, yes, they'd had a look and that was all really I... | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
You know, I just trusted them. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
It's a sad fact but rogues like this will use any means necessary to gain your confidence, | 0:19:07 | 0:19:12 | |
so you need to be on your guard, no matter who comes knocking on your door. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:18 | |
The lengths that this type of criminal will go to | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
are, in some instances, quite staggering. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
We've had reports that they've turned up on a door | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
pretending to be police officers or council officials, | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
people from the water board... | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
They've shown crucifixes and told householders that they're very religious | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
and that they'd always do a good deal. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
Now, I gather that a neighbour then got involved, | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
so what do you now understand happened? | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
Well, I believe the neighbour got in touch with the police. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
Why was that? Had he seen something...? | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
Well, he obviously didn't like what was going on up there | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
and he was looking after my interests. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
As well as the police, this eagle-eyed neighbour also called Trading Standards. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:56 | |
Thanks to this quick thinking Timothy was able to take action | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
while the scam was still taking place. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
We responded straight away because we knew the traders were onsite, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
it offered us the opportunity not only to reassure and protect the consumer in this issue | 0:20:05 | 0:20:10 | |
but also to speak directly with the traders. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
Upon arrival, it quickly became clear that these tradesmen | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
were neither skilled nor honest. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
The standard of work was pretty shoddy | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
but what struck me most was that it was completely unnecessary. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
The pointing was fine as it was, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
so there was no need for any repointing | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
and certainly brushing moss off the roof | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
was not anywhere in the region of the amount | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
that was being charged by the trader. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
It also transpired that the contract Vivienne had been given | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
wasn't worth the paper it was written on. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
It was handwritten, | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
a lot of what they'd agreed to undertake hadn't been noted down on a contract | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
and they hadn't done what they needed to do in law in terms of providing cancellation rights. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:52 | |
The reason cancellation rights are so important is it allows | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
consumers the ability to take a view, get different quotes | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
and decide for themselves without the pressure of trader being on the doorstep. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
By law we're allowed a seven day cooling off period | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
for goods or services sold to us in our homes. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
To waiver this period Vivienne would have needed to do so in writing | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
but as she hadn't been asked for any signature, | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
she didn't HAVE to pay the rogues a penny which was good news. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
Incredibly though, she still felt that she owed them something. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:24 | |
Now, what happened to the work they had done | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
and the money that you'd promised to pay? | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
I felt that they had done a job and I felt sorry for them in a way. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:33 | |
But how could you feel sorry for people who were scamming you? | 0:21:33 | 0:21:38 | |
I don't know, I don't know - a weak moment, I suppose. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
-So, I gave them a token amount. -How much? | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
300. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:46 | |
Do you look back now and think you were silly giving them any money? | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
Yes, I do, actually. I shouldn't have done. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
To enable the roofers to trade lawfully in the future, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
Trading Standards gave them detailed advice about their responsibilities to customers. | 0:21:55 | 0:22:00 | |
Even so, I really feel for Vivienne because she put her trust in these cold callers | 0:22:00 | 0:22:05 | |
at a time when she could so easily have been taken advantage of. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
Well, Vivienne, sadly your husband died a couple of years ago | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
presumably that's left you feeling more vulnerable around the house? | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
Definitely. Definitely because I'm useless, can't even change a plug! | 0:22:17 | 0:22:22 | |
-And he would have...? -Everything, he did all that sort of gear, yeah. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
-Do you think this would have happened if your husband had been here? -It would never have happened. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:30 | |
No, without a doubt. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:31 | |
So, looking back on this whole episode | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
and the scam that was involved, how has it changed your attitude? | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
My advice to anybody who, somebody comes to your door, don't have anything to do with them. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:44 | |
Wait until you've got a personal recommendation from a friend | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
and just don't answer the door to anybody selling you anything. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:54 | |
Now, how this has changed you as an individual? | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
I'm a lot tougher...I hope, yeah. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
Thank you, very much for sharing your story with us. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
Well, now it's time to discover the fate of businessman Julian Donoher, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:14 | |
whose company ripped off dozens of victims all over the UK. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
Donoher is appearing at Teesside Magistrates Court today. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
Amongst his many victims is Jane Morris. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
He charged her £5,830 just to unblock a drain. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:30 | |
Only when she tried to claim the money back through her insurance company | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
did the full extent of the con come to light. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
The insurance man came round two or three days later, | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
I told him what had happened and how the first blockage had happened | 0:23:41 | 0:23:46 | |
and much I'd paid, £330, for this and immediately, he became anxious for me | 0:23:46 | 0:23:51 | |
and he said, "That's far too much.". | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
He went out to look and put his camera down the drains. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
Came back in, and by this time my husband was home, and said, | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
"Please will you both sit down, I'm afraid nothing's been done.". | 0:24:00 | 0:24:05 | |
So, let's get this straight, | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
Jane had paid £330 to Donoher for unblocking her drain, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:12 | |
plus another £5,500 to put resin down the pipes. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:17 | |
In reality, Donoher did nothing except lie to Jane about the work he'd done. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:22 | |
What we have here is CCTV footage inside Mr and Mrs Morris's drain. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:27 | |
This was taken by somebody acting on behalf of their insurance company, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
once they realised there was a problem. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
And you can see the camera travelling along the drain | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
and it's now approaching an area of root growth | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
and what this trader had told the Morris's | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
was that he had removed all root growth from this drain | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
and that's actually clearly not the case | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
and the drain is obstructed here by roots. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
But because Jane had paid by cheque, | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
it now meant there WAS a paper trail. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
This was the turning point in the case | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
as Trading Standards finally had a way of fighting back against Donoher. | 0:24:55 | 0:25:00 | |
Investigators were then able to trace where that cheque went | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
and this trader had used a cheque cashing service to actually get the money from that cheque. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
That enabled us to carry out further enquiries with the cheque cashing service | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
to find out how many other multiple cheques had been through his account in that same way. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:16 | |
And we then identified many other victims | 0:25:16 | 0:25:17 | |
that had been targeted by him in exactly the same way as the Morris's. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:22 | |
Happily police and Trading Standards finally caught up with Julian Donoher. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
He was arrested and charged with fraudulent trading. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
Having been on the case for almost two years, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
Ruth Andrews is at Teesside Crown Court hoping for a successful outcome | 0:25:32 | 0:25:37 | |
and that Donoher's days as a con artist are well and truly over. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
'So, really good news,' | 0:25:40 | 0:25:41 | |
Mr Donoher has pleaded guilty to 33 counts of fraud and money laundering charges | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
relating to multiple victims and thousands of pounds that he has taken from them. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
Really successful case for us that's taken us 18 months to bring to a conclusion | 0:25:49 | 0:25:55 | |
but also great news for the victims of this case | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
who lost so much money to him. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:58 | |
And there's more good news | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
because Trading Standards are currently using the Proceeds of Crime Act against Donoher | 0:26:00 | 0:26:05 | |
to reclaim the money he scammed from his victims. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
One thing is for sure, the whole episode has certainly been a deep learning curve for Jane Morris. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:14 | |
'We were amazed that we could be taken in.' | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
In future I'll know that the first port of call | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
is to go to the insurance or something like that | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
and not to believe people the first time | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
but always to have a second opinion. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
Well, we're so pleased to say, a great result. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
We're here to fight back against doorstep criminals | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
and we'd really love to hear more of your stories | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
about how you've stopped them ripping you off. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
You can always find the details about how to get in touch at: | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
In the meantime, thanks for watching | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
and I really hope you'll join me again, next time. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
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