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All across the UK, I'm glad to say people are fighting back against rip-off rogue traders, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
cold-calling conmen, you name it, they're fighting back! | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
Well, we're all taking a stance against doorstep crime. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
We're also celebrating the work of award-winning police | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
and Trading Standards teams from all over the UK. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
With your invaluable help, we've been busy spreading the message | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
that these crooks have got to be stopped. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
Today, we'll learn how a successful partnership | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
between Trading Standards and police in Bristol | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
brought a rogue roofer to justice. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
The politest way I could describe these people is as pond scum. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
They're manipulative, they're predatory. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
The family raising awareness of doorstep crime | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
to protect others in the community | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
after their mother was robbed of an unbelievable £270,000. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:49 | |
If there's one positive that's come out of what happened, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:54 | |
it's the fact that more people are reporting this type of crime. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
Plus, the Midlands pensioner | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
who was scammed not once, but twice by doorstep criminals, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
costing him £27,000. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
It's just so maddening that people... | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
Here's someone who has already been abused | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
and they're coming back for more. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
Hello and welcome to the programme | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
and let's get straight away to our first story. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
We're off to Bristol, | 0:01:23 | 0:01:24 | |
to find out why it took the combined efforts of both police | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
and Trading Standards to bring a local rogue to justice. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
Over the past two years, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
Somerset and Avon Police tell us that they've seen a 60% reduction | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
in doorstep crime, thanks to the work of two groups. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
The Senior Citizens' Liaison Team works in the community | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
and supports those who've been targeted by conmen. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
But today, we're looking at another group. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
This one aims to catch cold-calling crooks in the act. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
The Doorstep Crime Team was set up in 2009 | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
and it consists of Trading Standards officers and police officers. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
It's fairly unique in that the Trading Standards officers | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
are embedded with police and Trading Standards officers have access | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
to all police systems for intelligence and that sort of thing. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
The Doorstep Crime Team has shown how effective | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
joint working between police and Trading Standards can be. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
While the team is successful, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
they face challenges from rogues on their turf. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
Detective Sergeant Will Thorpe knows all their rotten tricks. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
There are several cases ongoing at the moment. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
One particular method that's being used | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
is in relation to roofing work. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
What happens in particular cases is that the person coming | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
to the door will say that a small amount of work needs to be done, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
a down pipe or a section of guttering. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
Once that person is there on the roof and doing some further work, | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
the victim isn't able to see exactly what the state of their roof is | 0:02:48 | 0:02:53 | |
or whether that work is necessary, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
and then once one bit of work gets done, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
from there on in, it's quite easy to carry on telling the homeowner | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
that they require further bits of work. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
Roofing scams tend to be the most common | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
and the most lucrative for rogues. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
Statistics show that only 10% of this sort of crime is reported | 0:03:08 | 0:03:14 | |
and we can't do anything about it unless people tell us about it. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
There you have it, the message is clear, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
if you fall victim to doorstep crime, for goodness sake, report it! | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
76 year-old Bridget Davison is glad she raised the alarm | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
back in 2010. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:30 | |
At the time, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:33 | |
I was rather vulnerable because my husband had only died | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
a couple of months before | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
and it was very upsetting, as you can imagine, | 0:03:38 | 0:03:44 | |
and so obviously, I wasn't functioning on all cylinders. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
In this vulnerable state, | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
Bridget was all-too susceptible to a smooth-talking conman. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
I was just coming back from shopping | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
and I noticed a van parked outside my house | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
and there was a man standing on the end of the drive, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
so as I approached, he said could he speak to me for a minute | 0:04:04 | 0:04:10 | |
and would I like my guttering renewed? | 0:04:10 | 0:04:15 | |
So he quoted me about £300, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
which I thought was a reasonable amount, so I agreed to have it done. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
The early stages of this particular scam followed a fairly standard | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
MO for rogue trading offences. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
As the work was started, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
the boss of the contractors came to the victim | 0:04:30 | 0:04:36 | |
and said that she then needed her roof cleaned. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
With the roof washed, | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
the conman then offered a sealant for Bridget's roof tiles. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
He told her this was essential to the protection of the building. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
He did not, by the way, quote a price. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
This man saw a vulnerable woman | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
on her own, who obviously, I imagine, came across as | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
not really thinking straight and thought, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:04 | |
"Bingo. I can probably talk her into anything." | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
Thankfully the family became aware of what was going on. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
They rang the police | 0:05:11 | 0:05:12 | |
and the Doorstep Crime Team swung into action. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
They came the following day and were absolutely brilliant | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
because the thing that had stopped Mum initially telling me | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
was that she felt stupid. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
And the one thing the team didn't do at any time | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
was make her feel stupid. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
Will Thorpe and his team believe that it's essential | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
to show sensitivity to the victims. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
The impact on the victims is huge - | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
the financial implications of losing their life savings | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
for work that's not required. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
And also what we find is the embarrassment that they feel, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
that they've been taken on a ride | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
and they just feel hugely ashamed of doing that. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
Later we'll find out | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
how the Doorstep Crime team came to Bridget's rescue. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
Plus a watchful neighbour keeps an eye out for a Midlands pensioner | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
who lost more than 20 grand to doorstep crooks. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
If you're the neighbour of someone who is vulnerable, keep checking. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
Check that they're OK, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
check that no one has done anything of this sort. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
Now, thanks to the wonders of modern technology, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
here's another example of doorstep crime. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
My mother was the victim of doorstep crime back in 2009. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
And my brother and I received an award in 2010 | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
for recognition of our helping promote | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
the campaign against doorstep crime | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
and I'd like to share this with you. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
Well, as you know, we do like a success story | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
and when we looked into it, | 0:06:43 | 0:06:44 | |
we found out the award was made by the Trading Standards Institute. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
There's a poignant element to this as well, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
because Helen and her brother David | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
managed to turn a private family tragedy | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
into something that helped their local community. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
This story reveals how devastating | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
this kind of crime can be to a family. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
In 2009, 76 year-old Anne Cornock | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
was admitted to hospital in South Wales with terminal cancer. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:13 | |
As if this wasn't stressful enough for her loved ones, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
they soon heard news that was also harrowing. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
It makes you very, very angry | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
because they basically destroyed the last year of her life. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
This is a lady who was hard-working, honest, kind, | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
wouldn't hurt a fly, and these people persecuted her. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
And she ignored the early signs, the physical signs of her cancer, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:38 | |
or contributed them to the stress caused by these people hounding her. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:43 | |
Helen's talking about the shocking discovery | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
that their mother had been the target of doorstep criminals. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
Helen's brother David is a television reporter, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
and he takes up his mum's story. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
Our mother was in hospital | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
and I was staying at her home with my family. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:02 | |
I discovered an opened letter from a bank that talked about an overdraft. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
This was a complete shock to us, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
not just because she had three pensions, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
we knew she had a comfortable income, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
but because an overdraft was so out of character | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
for her to borrow money. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
And I sort of slept on it, and then I mentioned it to my wife | 0:08:20 | 0:08:25 | |
and we thought we'd better mention it to my sister and we did. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
Then we discovered that the reason she had one | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
was because she'd been the victim of an awful scam. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
Anne Cornock had been targeted by a ruthless gang | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
who cold-called at her house to carry out work on her driveway. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
But they kept coming back, to extort money from her. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
She'd been subject to a barrage of visits. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:54 | |
Cold-callers, people chasing her for money. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
People ringing her all the time, people demanding money | 0:08:56 | 0:09:01 | |
which she had handed over and they kept this delusion going | 0:09:01 | 0:09:06 | |
that she'd overpaid for some work on her house, on her drive, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
and if she gave them some more money | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
they would make sure they got it back. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
It was all, it was all very sinister | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
and it had been going on for 18 months. None of us knew about it. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:22 | |
She kept it totally to herself, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
and she was really too proud and embarrassed to tell anyone about it. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:32 | |
Like many victims of doorstep crime, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
Anne had chosen to keep these problems to herself, | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
perhaps hoping they would go away. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
Then David and Helen saw for themselves | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
the real impact that the crime had had on her. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
The day I had to go and tell her that my brother and I had found out, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
my mother was never the same person again. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
She was mortified, totally ashamed, and broke down on me. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:56 | |
And... | 0:09:58 | 0:09:59 | |
..she wasn't the same mother again, mentally. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
Of course it was heart-breaking for Helen and David | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
to discover that their mother had suffered in silence | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
at the hands of doorstep criminals for 18 months. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
In that time, they extorted a staggering amount of money from her. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
My mother handed over a number of cash sums | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
and they would typically be things like £5,000, £6,000, £4,000. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:28 | |
Looking at the dates, it seemed like almost every week | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
she was handing out, this sort of money. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
That's shocking enough in itself, but David and his family discovered | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
that the rogues hadn't stopped there. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
There were two bank transfers totalling £115,000. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
Those were the biggest transfers. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
The money, my mother was told, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
was going to the contractor's accountant. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:57 | |
That turned out to be false, but that was the biggest sum. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:02 | |
There was another bankers draft for £20,000, but she ended up | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
paying out £272,310 | 0:11:06 | 0:11:11 | |
which was more than her whole house was worth. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
Just awful. More than £270,000, and for what? | 0:11:14 | 0:11:19 | |
The criminals had done nothing to Anne's house | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
to warrant any form of payment, yet incredibly, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
they had taken virtually every penny she had. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
David and Helen brought in the police, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
but it was difficult for them to gather evidence, | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
because Anne was so ill. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:34 | |
Detective Inspector Huw Thomas led the investigation. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
We actually interviewed her in hospital which was difficult | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
for the family, it was difficult for everybody, really, | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
because she was in such a poor state of health at the time | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
that her recollection of events was quite poor. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
And therefore we never actually got beyond | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
the people that the money got transferred to. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
But I'm certain there's more people out there than we've dealt with. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
The larger money transactions were made via Anne's bank, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
which meant the police were able to follow a paper trail, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
to one of the gang members | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
From looking at the bank details | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
and where the money transfers had gone to, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
we made some enquiries and we established | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
that it had gone through the hands of a Sean White. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
As a result of our enquiries, then Sean White was arrested | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
and subsequently dealt with for money laundering offences. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
On the 18th March 2010, Sean White was sentenced | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
to two years imprisonment. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
The police also tracked down another member of the gang | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
called Stephen George, who was given an eight month prison sentence. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
For the family, these sentences offered little consolation. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
I don't think there'll ever be a sentence | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
that would suit this for what they did to my mother. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
What I do feel for future cases is that the mental torture | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
should be taken into consideration as well | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
We were very heartened that the judge took it seriously | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
from his comments. He was limited in what he could do | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
in terms of sentencing, but it did send a signal | 0:12:59 | 0:13:04 | |
that if you're involved in this sort of scam, and you get found out, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
and you will be found out, you'll get sent to jail. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
The tragedy of what happened to Anne continues to be painful, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
but Helen and David have raised awareness in the local community, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
in the hope that no other family should have to experience | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
the same heartache that they've been through. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
The police and Trading Standards | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
got in touch with us after the court case | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
because they were concerned about this sort of crime | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
and they wanted to highlight the dangers of it. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:39 | |
They asked us if we could help with a campaign launch, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
which we were happy to do. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
We gave interviews and helped with the publicity for that, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:50 | |
just to highlight the sort of scams that are going on, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
and the way that they target people | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
who you might not think are vulnerable, | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
but clearly they're still managing to get away with it. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
In 2010, David and his sister Helen were awarded | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
with a Trading Standards Institute Local Heroes Award, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
for their work in highlighting doorstep crime. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
We received the nomination | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
for David Cornock and Helen O'Neil in 2010. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
It came from the Welsh heads of Trading Standards. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:23 | |
And as soon as we read the nomination, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
we were just as impressed and inspired as they had been, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
just by what they had achieved in such a short period of time | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
and how they had been able | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
to put aside their personal grief and anger and frustration, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
following their mother's death, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
and channel all that into helping others. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
So it really was an inspiring story | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
and we wanted to recognise that with our Hero award. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
It was great that it was acknowledged | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
that my brother and I had helped to raise awareness | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
against doorstep crime, | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
but bitter, however, because of what our mother had to endure, | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
and we'd had to experience that first hand as a family. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
I can truly understand how Helen feels. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
Even so, Detective Inspector Thomas has noticed the big difference | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
their publicity work has made | 0:15:12 | 0:15:13 | |
in tackling doorstep crime in South Wales. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
If there's one positive that's come out of what happened to Mrs Cornock, | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
it's the fact that more people are reporting this type of crime. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
And it doesn't matter whether it's £200, £20,000 | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
or in this case £270,000. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
You're not wasting anybody's time. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
If you think that something suspicious is going on, | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
please, please ring us. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
There's nothing more frustrating than knowing that stuff's going on | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
but not being told about it. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
If you see people acting suspiciously in the area | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
or if you've just heard something about somebody having work done | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
and they're not quite happy with it, give us a ring. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
If we can't help you, we'll certainly find somebody who can. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
It's incredible that David and Helen have been able to turn | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
such a tragic sequence of events | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
into something positive for their community. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
Our deepest thanks go to them for sharing a very painful story. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
It's a timely reminder that we must all look out for each other, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
and in particular, those in our community who need a helping hand. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:19 | |
Now, it's time to return to Bristol. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
Earlier, we looked at the work of the Doorstep Crime Team, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
and the rogue roofer who tried to con 76 year-old Bridget Davison. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:31 | |
I felt that I'd been a bit of a sucker, really, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
to be persuaded into something | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
that didn't really need doing, | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
and also to accept that they should do it | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
without first of all getting a price. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
Bridget had been recently bereaved. Now she felt trapped. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
The man who I had first spoken to outside | 0:16:52 | 0:16:57 | |
came into the house. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
And he said to me that he'd got a very good deal | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
on a spray for the roof which would protect it and seal it | 0:17:03 | 0:17:09 | |
and that he'd noticed that I had quite a bit of moss on my roof tiles | 0:17:09 | 0:17:14 | |
and that that didn't do them any good. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
No price had been quoted for this particular work, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
which was later found to be unnecessary. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
My brother turned up and did try and talk to the second-in-command | 0:17:24 | 0:17:30 | |
'to get a price from him. This chap was very vague,' | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
wouldn't really come up with anything concrete, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
but gave a vague price of about £4,000. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:42 | |
Yes, you heard right. £4,000! | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
And when experts looked at what had been done, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
it clearly wasn't worth it. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
In this particular case, we commissioned a surveyor's report, | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
and he found that the work was not only completely worthless, | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
but it may have actually led to damage to the roof as well. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
And, in fact, we were never able to establish | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
the technical specifications | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
of what product had allegedly been put on the roof. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
Roofing cons are the most complained-about cold calling scams. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
Victims stand to lose a small fortune. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
'The average cost is between £5,000 and £10,000. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
'When they discover that that work hasn't been done properly,' | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
they feel foolish, and they won't come forward and report it. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:24 | |
What we generally find is that relatives come and contact us. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
'The cost is then even more significant' | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
because they've got to repair completely valueless work. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
Thankfully Bridget had not yet paid for this scam. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
The rogue had arranged to collect the money a few days later. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
The Doorstep Crime team quickly set up plain clothes officers, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
to catch the crook when he came back. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
That morning, we were waiting. And within a short time, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
around the time that he said he was going to come back, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
we saw him turn up and approach the lady's front doorstep. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
Myself and my colleagues approached him, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
and as I was walking down the driveway | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
I identified myself to him as a police officer. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
At that particular point, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
I remember the colour draining from his face. He was shocked. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
Bridget dodged this crime, just in the nick of time. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:16 | |
The Police and the Trading Standards people were very good, I thought. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
Very thorough and quick | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
and supportive of me in a vulnerable position. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
The conman, Billy Brede, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
was convicted in March 2011 of two offences of unfair trading. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:35 | |
He was given a fine and ordered to pay costs of more than £4,000. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
When we do get that sort of result from a case, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
it's extremely satisfying | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
because we're taking rogue traders off the street | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
and we're protecting members of the public at the same time. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
When the case came to court, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
I felt very relieved that they had, erm... | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
..caught him and that he wouldn't perhaps be able to con anybody else | 0:19:59 | 0:20:04 | |
into having a job done that they didn't really need or want. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
The politest way I could describe these people is as pond scum. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
They're manipulative, they're predatory | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
and they specifically target vulnerable, older people. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:19 | |
Mainly women, I imagine, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:20 | |
but men could find themselves in the same situation. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
And the thing with that generation | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
is that they don't feel they can be rude. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
Well, you can be as rude as you like to these people. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
You don't owe them a thing. They're scum. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
I couldn't have put it better myself! | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
Your letters and e-mails have continued to really intrigue us. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
Jane McDonald recalls a man knocking at her door | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
and saying there were some slates loose on her roof. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
She said, "My brother-in-law's a builder. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
"I'll get him to take a look. Thanks for pointing it out." | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
Apparently, he was still picking his jaw up from the floor | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
as she shut the door promptly in his face. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
As it turned out, Jane's brother-in-law really was a builder, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
but later she realised the man could have been a con artist at the door, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
and judging from his reaction, | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
he wasn't expecting the answer she gave. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
So a polite but firm rebuttal seems to be a very good way | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
of dealing with unwanted callers. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
It certainly would have helped the man in our next story. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
87 year-old John Green was a well-known character | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
in the West Midlands town where he'd lived for many years. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
He died in 2010, but his neighbour is keen to tell his story. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:34 | |
He'd like to keep his identity private, so we'll call him Michael. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
John was always out and about. Everyone in the area knew him. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:43 | |
He was just always on the lookout for how he could help. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
I looked out for John, we looked out for John, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
but he also looked out for us. It was a mutual swap of support. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
On a December morning in 2009, two men appeared at John's door | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
claiming to be from a roofing company. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
They were in fact a pair of doorstepping rogue builders. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
Dean Anthony Madden was 42 at the time, and Mark Duggan was 44. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
They claimed that John's chimneys needed urgent repair. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
Also, that new building regulations meant the lead flashing on his roof | 0:22:10 | 0:22:15 | |
was now of the wrong width and would need replacing. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
It was, of course, complete rubbish. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
The tactics Madden and Duggan used were scare tactics in a way. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:25 | |
Mr Green, who was a vulnerable, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
'elderly man who lived by himself, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
'he's got no way of getting up on that roof' | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
and checking whether the work needed doing. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
John agreed to the work at a staggering cost of £2,250, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:42 | |
with a cash payment up front of £1,250. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
In typical rogue trader style, the gang started work on the roof right away, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
before John could even change his mind. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
Luckily, watchful neighbour Michael saw that something was up. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
I went to check what was happening and that's when he told me | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
'that they were coming back to get more money from him. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
'I knew that it couldn't possibly be true and so I rang the police.' | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
This local hero did the right thing, | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
particularly as John had fallen victim | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
to doorstepping criminals several times in the past. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
We would say to him that if anyone knocks on the door | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
'telling you need some work done | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
'come to us or our other neighbours, come to anyone and check it out.' | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
Let us check it out. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
We knew how vulnerable he was and we wanted to support him. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
Now, thanks to Michael's phone call | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
Mark Beesley and his Trading Standards team | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
were ready and waiting with the police | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
when the scammers came to call the following day. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
We saw the van drive up to the front of Mr Green's house. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:44 | |
Dean Madden knocked on the door | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
and he was a bit surprised to see a police officer standing there. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
Duggan and Madden were told to keep away from the house | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
while a survey was carried out. And you've guessed it - | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
the survey concluded that the work was quite unnecessary. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
Well, thankfully Duggan and Madden were arrested | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
and a court date was set. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
But the really upsetting thing about this particular case | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
is that having already been subjected to one scam, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
John's good nature was about to be taken advantage of yet again, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
and believe it or not he was scammed out of a staggering £26,000! | 0:24:14 | 0:24:20 | |
After the people were arrested John told me | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
that two other people had come to his front door posing as officials | 0:24:23 | 0:24:28 | |
and telling him that because he was the one who had reported | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
'the matter to the police that he was responsible for paying | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
'all of the court costs and they, over a period of time, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
'took multiple thousands from him. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
'I don't know exactly how much it was, but it was a lot of money,' | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
and again it's just so maddening that people... | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
Here's someone who has already been abused | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
and they're coming back for more. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
It was a shocking revelation | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
and coupled with Duggan and Madden's scam, | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
it would ultimately prove just too much for poor John. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
There's no doubt in my mind that the stress and worry | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
of a lengthy investigation had some kind of impact | 0:25:05 | 0:25:10 | |
on Mr Green and his health. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
I think in the end John wasn't as concerned about the financial loss | 0:25:14 | 0:25:21 | |
as the stress and embarrassment of being duped, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:27 | |
having his trust broken. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:28 | |
That mattered more to him than the actual money. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
John died in October 2010, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
so he wasn't able to see Duggan and Madden taken to court, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:38 | |
where it transpired that the pair had also scammed an elderly woman | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
out of almost £7,000. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
Dean Madden and Mark Duggan admitted conspiracy to defraud | 0:25:44 | 0:25:49 | |
and were jailed for two years, eight months, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
and two-and-a-half years respectively. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
'This case highlights the importance' | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
that neighbours, friends and families can have | 0:25:55 | 0:26:00 | |
'in protecting the elderly in our society.' | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
If you are the potential victim, tell someone | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
but also if you're the neighbour of someone who is vulnerable, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
keep checking. Check that they're OK, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
check that no-one has done anything of this sort. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
Many thanks, Michael, for sharing John's story with us | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
and indeed for that very worthwhile advice. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
Now before we go, time for Trish Marshall's note. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
She says that West Sussex Trading Standards | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
give window stickers to its residents on request. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
Then the stickers can be put on the front door | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
to inform cold callers that they're simply unwelcome. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
I think that's a great tip. Thank you for that, Trish. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
We'd love to hear more about how you've managed to stop | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
doorstep crooks from ripping you off. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
bbc.co.uk is our website, and that's exactly where you can find | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
all the details about how to get in touch with us. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
May I just say thank you for watching | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
and clearly I hope you'll join us again next time. From us, bye-bye. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
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