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Hello, I'm Wendy Austin and this is Hello, tonight we are broadcasting

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from just outside Belfast at Museum at the Mill in Newtownabbey. It is

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part of the council's new premises at Mossley Mill and celebrates the

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links with the mutt -- linen trade. We have been setting up and

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preparing for this evening's programme. Last week it was

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Cookstown and next it is Enniskillen to try and bring

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resolution to the issues you care about. This week we are not like

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because of the Bank Holiday, but continued to get in touch with us

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by e-mail. You can follow was on Facebook or you can free jazz. --

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Twitter as. 2000 people in Northern Ireland

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have muscular dystrophy. Are we feeling then? May help minister

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will be here to answer questions. -- the Health Minister. And we have

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been asking shoppers for their top saving tips.

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First, we have been out on the road again. This week, you have been

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looking at asbestos? Until 1999, asbestos was regarded as a

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versatile building block in the construction industry, something in

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virtually every new home. We now know it is dangerous. I have spoken

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to a Fermanagh woman, who has been left high and dry since she bought

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her home from the Housing Executive I am looking at an e-mail from duty

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in Enniskillen who is telling us harsh job she was to find asbestos

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in the kitchen of the home sheet bought from Housing Executive 12

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years ago. At the point of sale the Executive did not mention it. They

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said they did not know which homes had it until they conducted a

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survey. That is what upsets duty. Even when the asbestos was found in

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homes in her street, no one from the Housing Executive knocked her

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front door. This two-storey house in Enniskillen was the family home

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from 1985. She bought a house in 2000, after her mother's death, was

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totally unaware of the asbestos risk until November last year.

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had a Bill to come round and it was uncovered under the sink. You

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cannot open that, so I wanted a cupboard. The builder was knocking

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that out and I helped him carried appeases outside. He said, have you

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got a tap? That is dangerous stuff. I said, what you mean? He said,

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that is asbestos. This house was built in the 1970s at a time when

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the use of asbestos was widespread. Last November, Judy was left alone

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to be with a hazardous waste found in her kitchen. -- to deal with.

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iPhone Housing Executive and said this has been discovered. I was not

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sure if it was anywhere else in the house. He said, the building plans

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do not have them any more. After 10 years they are destroyed. She says

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she was met with a brick wall at the Housing Executive. She raised

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concerns in November last year but says the Executive responded by

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telling her they had no legal responsibility to tell her there

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was asbestos in her home. In a letter to her solicitor, she said

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she was basically told to take a problem elsewhere. So she left home

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until a licence contractor can be hard to assess the risk and remove

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the asbestos. We are meeting someone with 27 years' experience

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of assessing the risks of asbestos on site. Asbestos is a naturally

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occurring silicate rock and was mind include those like South

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Africa. It was manufactured into a number of product. It was widely

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used because of its thermal insulation properties. Properties

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that were built before 1990, asbestos was fairly widely used.

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What are the dangers to the work man who comes into the house and

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rails into something that contains asbestos? It would depend on the

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tide of asbestos. There are some types that the Matrix tightly bind

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the asbestos fibres, so that the release is low. Any type and

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drilling, cutting or a abrading of any asbestos tide should be avoided

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because this is the time when the fibres are potentially released

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into the atmosphere. They haven't CVT Executive said the Housing

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Executive has a duty to manage asbestos in their housing stock. --

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But health and safety Executive. That does not cover houses sold to

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A senior manager told us that once a Housing Executive establish the

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presence of asbestos in their properties, it would be reasonable

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for them to inform homeowners in the same street who had bought

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their houses from the Executive. In a statement, the Housing Executive

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have told us that in 2005, they conducted a survey into all of

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their properties and they found evidence of asbestos. There was

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only access from out here, is that right? You could only get in from

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outside. If the Executive had come due in 2005 and said, we have found

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asbestos near by and you might want your house Cech, how would you have

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reacted? -- you has checked. would have been shocked and

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panicked but little for the knowledge. I would have got the

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survey done, paid for the correct people to dispose of it. It would

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have been peace of mind and it would not have been as expensive.

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If you do it from the beginning it is not as expensive. There was

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something else that Housing Executive could have done but did

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not. They failed to mention that she could apply for a discretionary

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grant to help with the cost of cleaning up asbestos. By the time

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she found out about it, the Housing Executive said she was not eligible

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as she had already done the work itself. The first I heard about it

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was in need impartial reporter. I'm not sure if the Housing Executive

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knew about it as well. Two people I spoke to did not know anything

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about it. The asbestos may be gone from a house, but the fear of

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contamination has not. Every night when I go to bed and sleep under

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the duvet. That is not going to make any difference.

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Psychologically, you feel you cannot breathe. Since we began

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asking questions of the Housing Executive, we have secured two

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significant developments. There were to reconsider the case and

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they are going to conduct a review into how they notified owners of

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former Housing Executive properties about the risks of asbestos.

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That is quite eight results. three weeks we have been flocking

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to duty and the Executive and they have moved forward in a positive

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way, reconsidering my case and more importantly, listening to what she

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had said about had she been told earlier, she would have appreciated

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that. That protocol may be revisited now by the Housing

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Executive. They are under no obligation but it would be welcomed

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by homeowners. We asked the Housing Executive to come onto the

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programme but they said that none was available. I have Chris Gent in,

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from the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors and from me

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construction union, Michael Kiseil. The Housing Executive was not

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breaking the law by not passing on the Executive. Will it be

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reasonable to find out that a house you have bought has asbestos in it?

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A moral and legal obligation often diverge. You would like to think

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that there would be a moral obligation to point out something

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that could affect somebody there is no legal obligation for them to do

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so. Asbestos is something that makes a chill run down people's

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backs, for good reasons. How common is it for it to come up in homes?

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Very common. I come across that almost every single day. That must

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be very worrying for people going into work in houses. You members

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must be as well? They are indeed. We commissioned a report in 2009,

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to let go of specific -- to look specifically at asbestos in the

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home. The report was very, very comprehensive and in fact, it

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showed us that about 90% of all houses, social housing for right at

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the home of the UK including Northern Ireland, have asbestos in

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them. -- throughout the whole of the UK. That means people in UEG

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you going to work in houses might find themselves in a situation

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where they are halfway through the job and realise that is what they

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are working with? This is happening on a daily basis. They have and

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safety Executive do have regulations to protect workers, but

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there is nothing to protect the President of the household, which

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we think should be expanded upon. - - the resident. We do not want to

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be alarmist. As long as you do not do anything to the asbestos, it is

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not dangerous, is that right? depends on the form it is in.

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Generally speaking, the rule of thumb is if you leave it alone it

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will leave you alone, so it is safe if you do not subjected to any

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standing, drilling or abrasion. Your members survey homes for

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people who are buying. If somebody is buying a house, even if they are

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buying their own house, the case here, should they get a survey done

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and will it tell them? Indeed, the survey would tell them. We brought

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out a budget survey exactly for this kind of situation. It is

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called the Home condition report. It identify his -- identify his

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problems such as this. I am sure there are people pleased to hear

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that. Thank you for or clearing up for us.

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We have had a huge reaction to our story last week on computer scams.

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We are working our way through that and we'll pass on your concerns to

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Trading Standards, who have mastered us they will continue to

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investigate. Margaret has contacted us to say, while watching the

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programme she realised she had fallen foul of the same scam. A

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computer had been giving her trouble, she thought this was a

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genuine call. She says she would not have been aware hygiene not

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seen a programme. Rhonda contracted us to say her sister watched a

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programme on Monday night and informed her of the scam. She

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immediately rang the telephone number and asked for a refund.

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Randa says it is the first time she has been taken in by a scam and

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feels totally silly that she let it happen. Please keep your e-mails

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coming. In these times of austerity and

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downturn, most of us are keeping a close eye on what we spend. What is

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the best way to keep on top of your household budget? In your corner's

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reporter has been to the Abbey centre to find out how the people

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of Newtownabbey do it. A church in Mallusk is running free

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sessions to help local people get on top of their household finances.

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The aim is to put the joy back into money by teaching people how to

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chat their household income and take control of their spending. As

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the saying goes, every penny counts. We are here to find out about your

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money-saving tips. How are you? We are asking if you

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have any money-saving tips. Keep it in your purse. Not much happens if

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you put your money into the bank, because of the interest rate been

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low. As I and the money I would spend it. Work out your income and

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outgoings and do not overspend. more careful, turn the heating down

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and things like that. Put on an extra jumper? Yes! War Two extra

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jumpers depending on the weather. started drinking -- I stopped

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drinking. Cut out things that you do not need. Also better for your

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health. You get more out of life. Don't have kids! That is where the

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money goes. Be careful what you buy. Do not by too many special offers

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because she threw them out. Always make sure you do not overspend and

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be tempted by things. Do not buy Chinese food at the weekend. Do not

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settle for the first place you see. Have a look around and think twice.

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I write it all down every week and pay it off. If it is the oil or

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anything else, I paid off week by week. We are asking people about

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money-saving tips. Have you got any? That is my money-saving tip

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beside me! There is a church in Mallusk who are going to be giving

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lessons to people to try and teach them how to budget. Is that a good

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idea? It is a bright idea. I would go to that. The you think you need

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You should get a great response from people. Almost 2000 people

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suffer from muscular dystrophy, causing muscle wasting and lung

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problems. Services are fragmented and families have been campaigning

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for a cohesive system to deliver the care children need. We asked a

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campaigner to report on the situation for fog.

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Michaela is 21 years old and studied journalism and PR. Life is

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not straightforward. She suffers from muscular dystrophy, a muscle-

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wasting condition causing respiratory problems and she has

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used a wheelchair. She's been campaigning for a specialist care

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centre in Northern Ireland and we asked her to look into it for In

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Michaela Pospech first stop is Brendan. He is 18 and has muscular

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There isn't a specialist neuromuscular Centre in Northern

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Ireland. We would need a one-stop- shop, these young men deteriorate

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and get week. They would need to be able to go to an appointment, maybe

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sort of within half the day and in one hospital. And then they would

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not have to be seen for another six months. That would be to their

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benefit. I think that's the only way forward. That is available in

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England, why not here? Every weekend, Brendan plays wheelchair

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football. As you can see, it's enjoyable and fun. It adds another

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dynamic to people with terminal When we come back up again, there's

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a difference in Brendan. He has enjoyed being out, the camaraderie.

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He has something to look forward to the following Saturday what is a

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great thing. The Football only provides a brief

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respite and parents are calling on politicians to organise better

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provision. It's a disgrace, it is time for something to be done. And

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I hope it will inform the MLAs that there is a need for something to be

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done for everyone with muscular dystrophy. My son is nearly 19. We

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have done nothing but fight every corner of the way for everything he

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has. Welcome, everyone. This is step to in the formal... Next stop

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is Stormont where a group is conducting an inquiry into muscular

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dystrophy care and the possibility of a one-stop-shop like those of

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specialist centres in England. have asked the fundamental

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question,... She had to take on a legal challenge to get an

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appointment for her 50-year-old son. Mark had 28 professional people

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involved in his care. As he tried to express disappointment, it

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became too much. Services are really bad. I have to go to

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Newcastle... OK, pet. For him to get his appointment in Newcastle,

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we had to go through the children's law centre and a solicitor. Do not

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take your boys to Newcastle. We have to come back to Northern

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Ireland and the reality. Until we have an infrastructure in Northern

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Ireland to receive care, we are destroying our boys to take them to

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centres where they can receive the care. Can you tell me a little more

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and the main issues around the care? To have a son with to Chen's

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is like having your best dream and worst nightmare all at the same

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time. You never stop trying to balance the emotions of being so

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proud of your son that you love so much with the fear of what it is

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that happens on a day-to-day basis to do little bore you have. Janet

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is a GP whose son also suffers from muscular dystrophy. We do have

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specialists here he can treat people, we're not saying the

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expertise is not there but the co- ordination and commissioning of the

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process for patients is not there. And at the moment people are in a

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difficult situation. Muscular dystrophy is unco-ordinated. When

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people like me get sick, we want to see one doctor at one place at one

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time. The well, I am joined by the Health Minister. And one of the

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mothers in the report. I am sure that was hard to watch, Marina

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found it emotional. It cannot be a situation you are happy with.

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it certainly is and I have met them before. Muscular dystrophy is one

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of those illnesses that is degenerative. It is a struggle for

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parents and they should not have to fight the way Marina had to fight

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to support -- to get the support she needed. There is a facility at

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Newcastle which is the centre of expertise. In Belfast, it's

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available twice a month, there is discussions on going as to whether

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it can be extended and how it can be extended. That is something that

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I have no doubt families would appreciate. Would you like to see

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it extended? Yes, there are lots of things I would like to see. I have

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been different demand, but nonetheless what we see his many

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young people who have significant demands, they do need the multi-

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disciplinary help and if there was better co-ordination it should not

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necessarily have to cost us more. Isn't that what the GP said at the

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end he was also a mother, they are the people here but no co-

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ordination to make it work. That is right. Sometimes you can deliver a

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better service for marginally less funding. Those are things we need

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to look at and address. Parents are right to seek to get better

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services. Marina, what would you and the other parents like to see

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for your children, what about the care adviser, a post not currently

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filled? The difference the care adviser made for me was I had

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somebody to help me be in charge. I had somebody to tell me what would

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happen next and it was simple things like I remember school and

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the kids do recorders in the curriculum and she was able to tell

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me we need to plan because he would not be able to play the recorder

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and whenever I was down and finding it challenging, what she did was be

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there for me and that is what we do not have in Northern Ireland.

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will happen, I understand, is a more clinical post, a neuromuscular

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nurse specialist,... Is that I know it was decided in consultation but

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what would parents say? I have never been asked. This is the first

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time I have given my views and I know no other parents have been

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asked. We do not have a clinical answer to the problems. So, to

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invest money and greater clinical care were not make a difference.

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What the boys need on a day-to-day basis is help to be normal and live

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normal lives. Marks said he is 15, he is obsessed with football. That

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is what he is worried about. What he doesn't need is another

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clinician. He doesn't need another hospital appointment. I, like every

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other mother, are the chemical co- ordinators. You expect me to be a

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health provider. I go to one appointment and bring his

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information because we do not have, records. I do not want to do that

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anymore. All I want is the same as every other mother, I want to be

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his mother. So please let us just be what it was. You are listening

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to that, it is painful for anyone, we are lucky, our children do not

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have this awful disease. Marina wants to be a proper money and do

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what she wants. It is quite shocking they have not been asked

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before. The clinical adviser left due to illness and it short-notice.

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But did leave a vacuum. I know the trust looked at a replacement.

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There's been quite a delay. We can look at it and in view of what the

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parents have to say but the view from the trust was a clinical

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adviser role should be a nurse with expertise as well. I can understand

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where the trust is coming from. adverts are going in, will the

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trust look at it again? We do not want to delay things further but it

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would be useful to have the views of some of the families and

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organisations that might sisters. And an all-party group is examining

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this. We be answering questions from them, we meet more parents?

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attended the all-party Group and Met parents and we are happy to

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meet parents again and we need to get our heads around these issues.

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Thank you for being less -- with us. Next week we are live again from

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Enniskillen before going to County Down. Let us know your stories and

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let us who find a resolution for you. You can contact us via e-mail

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and keep a discussion going online. That is it from us. Remember, we

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are only on air for 30 minutes a week but that's the tip of the

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