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Whether you're a spender or a saver,

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we could all do with knowing how to make the most of our cash.

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So we've found simple advice for you to do just that

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and taken it to towns and cities right across Britain.

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Whatever help you need with your finances, we are Right On The Money.

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Hello and welcome to Right On The Money,

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the series that's here

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to find easy ways to put more cash in your pocket.

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And today, we are in the world's first modern industrial city -

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Manchester. We are going to make it our business to make you savvier.

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And here's what's coming up on the show.

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We go all out to help this hard-working trucker finally

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make sense of his finances.

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It's just gobbledygook. It's not English.

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No, it's just not understandable at all.

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Plus, find out how you could be quids in just by travelling

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to and from work.

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I make between £50 and £60 per month doing it while commuting,

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but really the sky is the limit.

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Cotton. This is what Manchester was built on.

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But last year, it was voted the most popular place in the UK to live.

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And the locals certainly agree with that,

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they're really proud to live here.

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But 20 miles further up the road, we've been trying to help

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a couple save enough cash to do up their house.

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Ted and Kristine Penlington, from Warrington,

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have been happily married for the past 33 years.

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And the secret of their wedding bliss is simple.

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It's because Ted is away from the house Monday to Friday

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working as a long-distance lorry driver.

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It's not that you're out of the way, you're out at work.

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-There you go.

-And if you don't earn the money, I can't spend it, can I?

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I don't have a problem being away all week

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cos I know the boss, as I call her, she's safe enough.

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We have the two dogs looking after her.

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There you go. That's a good boy.

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While Ted is away,

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Kristine doesn't have the bungalow quite to herself.

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Two other residents still need lots of attention -

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her two pooches, Sultan and Bella.

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-The dogs are quite...

-Mollycoddled is a way of putting it, I think.

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-Yeah.

-The only thing I don't do is carry them about, I think.

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Well, we always make sure the dogs have got what I call the sweeties.

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We only give them dog treats,

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not make them jam butties or anything like that.

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Give them chocolate, no!

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No, we don't give them chocolate or anything.

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Ted's just turned 65 and would like to work a little less

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and spend some more time at home.

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So he's tried to cash in his various pensions, but has always

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given up halfway through as he's found the process too difficult.

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It's not hard to get your pensions, it's...

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near on impossible

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because nobody will give you the information you need to claim it.

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Recent research has shown that the majority of UK savers

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are just as confused as Ted is.

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57% said they didn't know when and how you could access your pension.

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Time to call in a woman who unravels pensions with the same enthusiasm

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others use to tackle a crossword,

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personal finance expert Sarah Pennells.

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-Hello. Is it Kristine?

-It is, yes.

-Hi, I'm Sarah.

-Hi, Sarah.

-Hello.

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And if she can't help these two sort out the retirement plans,

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no-one can.

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So, Kristine and Ted, you've got three private pensions.

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And have you taken any money out of any of them so far?

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I've been trying to get my private pensions for five, ten years?

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-Ten years, nearer on.

-I sent the form off.

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And they sent me a letter saying,

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"We can sort this out for you, not a problem, we'll be in touch."

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-During all this, they sent you all the forms, didn't they?

-Yeah.

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And you just don't understand what they're talking about.

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If there's one thing pension companies are brilliant at

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-it's not speaking English, so...

-That's it.

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I'm not surprised you struggled with it.

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Oh, I didn't have a clue.

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I think that's hopefully something I can help you out with.

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And that can't come a moment too soon

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because these two have big plans for their home.

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We bought this house about three years ago. Well, the bungalow.

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And we want to extend it because it's not big enough

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for the dogs and us.

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-The big pup, he's grown a bit since we've been here.

-Yes.

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And if he lies down on the floor, you just can't get round him.

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-We buy more dog food than what we do food.

-Really?

-Yeah.

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Hang on, so you spend more on food for the dogs than you

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-do for yourselves?

-Yeah.

-Wow.

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If they want to extend their house,

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Kristine and Ted may have to consider reducing their expenses,

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so to get a sense of just how much money they need,

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Sarah has a good look around.

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This is part of the reason why we need to extend,

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or the main reason, is the kitchen is so small.

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I mean, as you can see, I can't put anything in it.

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There's not enough room for anybody in it.

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Only basically two of us can sit in it. And we can't have the dogs in.

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We need it done now because a lot of the family come round at weekends,

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and you get the two dogs and everybody falling over each other.

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There's just nowhere to go.

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And in terms of the actual building work and the project,

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what would that cost?

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We've had an estimate given to us which will cost us about £20,000.

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OK.

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We will be doing lots of the work ourselves.

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That will save money that way.

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Well, hopefully, the pension will pay the biggest chunk of it,

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if nothing else, like.

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Sounds like cracking on with that extension really does

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depend on unlocking Ted's pension pot.

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But before Sarah tackles that one,

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she's going through the Penlingtons' weekly outgoings

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to see if there are any savings there to get them

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on the right financial path towards their building work.

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So, Kristine and Ted, you've been really organised.

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I've got your annual statement for your gas and electricity.

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-You're on the standard tariff with your energy supplier.

-Yeah.

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Have you switched or have you thought about switching?

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We have thought about switching,

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but we didn't know whether it would make any difference.

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If you've never switched, you'll be on the standard tariff.

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But it's just not a good deal for customers.

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But having had a look at how much gas and electricity you use,

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at the moment, it's about £1,000 a year

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-for both gas and electricity, roughly.

-Yeah.

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The most that you can save if you switch

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is about £286.29 a year.

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-Wow. Yeah.

-Which is not to be sniffed at, really.

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No, it isn't, actually.

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In less than ten minutes and with just a few clicks,

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Sarah has put almost £300

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back in Ted and Kristine's bank.

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And if you still never switched supplier, well,

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the odds are you could probably get the same.

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Savings like those are why 3 million of us

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switched electricity supplier in 2015,

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an increase of more than 11%.

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And there's more switching magic from Sarah as she finds

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a much cheaper alternative to the Penlingtons' telephone

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and broadband package.

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There's a deal that I suggest you could go with

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that costs about £220 a year. It's 18.50 a month.

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So that's going to save you about £200.

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That's great.

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Wow, you're on fire today, Sarah.

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So there's another £200 in your pocket.

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In my pocket.

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No, in mine.

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It's a good start, but thousands of pounds are needed to begin

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the work on Ted and Kristine's house,

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so Sarah's on a mission to save the Penlingtons as much as she can...

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I've got a little surprise for you.

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I've got one more area where we can hopefully save you some money.

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-I love you.

-Hopefully.

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..as she soon hones in on the vast amount of money trucker Ted

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spends in service stations up and down the country at meal times.

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So, Ted, tell me about when you do your job,

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when you're out on the road.

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-What do you spend?

-I average roughly about £60 a week.

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The problem is you have to go to either the services

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or a truck stop.

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And depending where you go, it can cost you

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from £5, £7, £10 a go.

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Per meal.

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Gordon Bennett! That's more than three grand every year

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on lunches and motorway treats.

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But is there a way to save on that grub with the help

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of Kristine's cooking skills?

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All right, so, Ted, I've got a little demonstration for you.

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This is sort of showing you the kind of meals that you might

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buy in a day. Here we go.

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That's your £60 - £10 a meal, £10 a day, £60 in a week,

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-you reckon, on average.

-On average, yeah.

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Now, what we've gone and done...

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We've done some shopping at the supermarket.

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Guess how much that cost me.

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-Not a clue.

-£60.

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So we have got for £60...

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I think there's probably enough food there to keep you

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going for quite a few miles.

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Uh, yeah. That'll keep me going for a bit of time, that will, yeah.

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So the idea here, Ted, is that you plan ahead and that you know exactly

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what you're going to be taking out on the road with you every day.

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-Mm-hm.

-And I reckon that with a bit of careful planning

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and a bit of canny shopping,

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you could probably get that £60 a week down to as little

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as £30 a week.

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Over a year, that could save Ted and Kristine

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a mouthwatering £1,500 and give him a taste of home into the bargain.

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But will truck-stop Ted go for it, though?

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-It does sound doable as long as...

-You prepare it.

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Well, there is one more thing.

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I've got sort of my secret weapon, which is...

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..plastic boxes. These are going to become your new best friend.

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-So you're happy?

-I'm happy.

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-I'm happy.

-You're happy.

-Cos he's saving money.

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And I'm happy. Cos your saving money.

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-The dogs, they're not happy, they lost the treats.

-Brilliant.

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Yep, it's great.

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Now we don't all drive an articulated lorry up and down

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the country, but us Brits do waste a lot of money buying food on the go.

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But with a bit of meal planning, we could be quids in too.

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And with that £1,500, Sarah has so far managed to save Kristine

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and Ted almost two grand,

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which takes her to the big one -

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seeing what she can do to help unlock Ted's pension pot.

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But even for someone who loves this kind of stuff, that's

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an awful lot of pension information for Sarah to plough through.

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Ted, I mean, that's a lot of paperwork you've got there.

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-Have you actually been able to make sense out of it?

-No.

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-None whatsoever.

-What's the biggest problem? Is it...

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-Is it the language? Just explain what the biggest issue is.

-It's...

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just gobbledygook. It's not English. It's just not understandable at all.

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-Shall I relieve you of the pension paperwork?

-Yeah, please. Please.

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We find out later if Sarah can get Ted and Kristine any closer

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to that pension cash.

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And as she looks for other savings, she sets her sights on these two.

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And we'll be finding out whether Ted and Kristine have managed to

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wade their way through all that jargon later on in the programme.

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Now, our personal finance expert Simon Read

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is a man a little bit like myself who hates jargon with a passion.

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As do you, Steve Jenner, from the Plain English Campaign.

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They're going to be trying to help our volunteers Debbie

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and Ryan de-jargon some everyday documents that quite frankly

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-drive us all mad, don't they?

-They do.

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And it's one of my bugbears.

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Just tell me why there is so much jargon in the financial industry?

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I think it's deliberate.

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I think the banks, the insurers,

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the credit card companies want to trick people into buying

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the wrong products, spending too much money on the wrong products,

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so they put confusing jargon in every single document

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so that people don't really know what they're doing.

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-It's time to change it.

-Would you agree with that, Steve?

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I'd agree with that entirely.

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Here we are, in the Museum of Science and Industry.

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This is hard science all around us.

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There's nothing really scientific about the financial industry,

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it's all about prediction

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and almost guesstimates and guesswork.

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It seems to me as well there is an attempt to stop people

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actually reading through these things

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so they don't actually read what things mean.

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And because of that, you're basically saying to people,

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"I trust you, do whatever you want with me."

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And it's really dangerous.

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And, Debbie, you've been actually looking at some contracts for us.

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What have you found very confusing?

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I came across something called joint lives, last survivor.

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It sounds like an American movie, doesn't it?

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-Joint Lives, Last Survivor, The Sequel.

-A horror movie.

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It's actually not.

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It's when two lives are insured,

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say a married couple or something like that, and the insurance

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company will pay out on the death of the second person.

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It's as simple as that. Why give it such a title? Which is scary.

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-I have no idea.

-What have you come across, Ryan?

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I was looking at ISAs and I kept seeing the term compound interest.

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I know what it is. I know the theory behind it,

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I've studied it at school, but how does it actually work

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-in reality?

-Good question.

-It is a good question.

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Compound interest is confusing to all of us because we can't

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work out how much return on a savings we're actually going to get.

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In simple terms,

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if you had 10% interest on £100 every year,

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you'd think you're getting £10 interest, but the second year,

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you're getting 10% of the 10%, which means you're getting... Do you know?

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-I can't even work it out in my head.

-THEY LAUGH

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-It's that complicated.

-It's that confusing, isn't it?

-Yes.

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And what else have you been looking at for us?

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Codicil, that was another one that I came across this morning.

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Well, strangely enough, I came across this when talking to

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a solicitor just a week or so ago in relation to a will.

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What it is, it's a document that can either replace a will or it

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can add to a will or amend a will depending on which part

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of the world you're in.

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I only found that out because the solicitor used this word to me.

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I hadn't got a clue what it meant.

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But because I'm a member of the Plain English Campaign, I'm quite

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used to saying, "Hang on, stop a minute, I don't know what you mean.

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"Please, explain what that means."

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-A lot of people just don't do that, do they?

-That's absolutely right.

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-They just say, "Sign on the dotted line."

-That's what happens.

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They're scared of being thought stupid or ignorant, aren't they?

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-Yeah.

-When in fact, it's going to save them money,

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save them lots of worries later on

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by actually speaking up and saying, "I don't understand."

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I think we need to start fining the big financial institutions

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if they don't speak in plain English.

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And I think maybe we should get people power for all of us

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to say, "I don't understand this."

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Rather than just simply signing the forms saying,

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-"I'm up with it," say no.

-Thanks a lot, guys.

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Hopefully, we'll understand jargon a little bit better.

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Now, here on Right On The Money, we're always looking for easy

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ways not just to save you money but to make it too.

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And today, we've got some corkers for you

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that really couldn't be any easier.

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They're the sort of thing you can do online,

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on your way to work or going about your daily business.

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And our technology expert David MacLaren

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has been checking them out.

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3 million of us spend more than two hours travelling to

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and from work by road and rail every single day.

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No wonder we get fed up with the daily grind.

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Well, I'm about to find out if there's a way to ease the

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boredom of that journey to work and earn some extra money on the way.

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It sounds a bit too good to be true if you ask me,

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but I'm willing to give it a go.

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Today, I'm going to test out three ways you can make money on the move.

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First up, Nimber -

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a delivery service which pays you to be a courier by picking up

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and dropping off items on your normal routes to work.

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You simply log on and type in the start

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and end points of your journey.

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Then, a bit like a dating site,

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the system will match you with a delivery job along the way.

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I've arrived to pick up my first package,

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for which I'll be paid the princely sum of £25 to take it across London.

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Hello. What have we got here?

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-We've got some nice lemonades and iced teas.

-Oh, fantastic.

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Thank you very much.

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Tell me, what do you get from using a service like Nimber?

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Well, we're utilising journeys that are already existing.

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Also, it's very quick and convenient to use.

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And the price is fair as well.

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Aren't you a bit concerned that I might just run off

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and drink all of this by myself?

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We're all insured up to £500 with every delivery,

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so we'll be confident that it arrives.

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Typically, how much you can earn depends on the size

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and weight of the item and the distance you have to travel.

0:16:230:16:27

Right, I'm off on my first delivery.

0:16:270:16:29

But before I get to my destination, I'm going to speak to David,

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who does these kind of deliveries all the time.

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-What are the craziest things that you've had to deliver?

-Livestock.

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-When I say livestock, I mean...

-I'm sorry?

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I mean cats. Kittens.

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-I've delivered three kittens and two puppies so far.

-Right.

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And of course, these really are something that you can't find

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an easy service for normally.

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How many times a week, a month do you do this?

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It very much depends upon the schedule

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I've got from my full-time job, but typically, if the timings

0:17:040:17:09

-and places are right, it can be three or four jobs per week.

-Wow.

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Do you have a feel for how much you make

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maybe per week or per month, or whatever?

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It might be £100 in a week.

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Good stuff.

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Five miles later, I'm about to make £25

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just for delivering those drinks.

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Not bad for a morning commute.

0:17:300:17:32

-Ah, Fred.

-Hey.

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There we go. There you are, for you.

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I think I've successfully not broken any of them.

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Tell me, why do you use the Nimber service?

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For something like this which is maybe a bit big, bulky and fragile,

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it's better to get that rather than doing it through a standard courier.

0:17:440:17:47

-Yeah.

-And also it's got a personal touch to it as well.

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-Well, enjoy your lemonade.

-OK, thank you.

-Have yourself a good day.

0:17:490:17:52

-Thank you very much.

-Bye-bye.

-Cheers.

0:17:520:17:54

But that's just one way to make money on the move.

0:17:570:18:00

For those who prefer a bit of mental stimulation in the morning,

0:18:000:18:03

here's another way to cash in on your commute.

0:18:030:18:06

So, here I am about to get on the X74 that goes from High Wycombe

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to Slough.

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Now, I bet you didn't know that you can make a bus journey

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pay for itself.

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Well, I'm about to meet someone who does exactly that,

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and they're going to show me how I can do it too.

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When she's not running her own money-saving blog,

0:18:250:18:27

Emma Drew fills in online surveys for organisations like YouGov,

0:18:270:18:31

MySurvey and OnePoll during her daily journey to work.

0:18:310:18:35

Emma, lovely to meet you.

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Tell me, how long have you been doing these online surveys for?

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I've been doing them for about ten years now.

0:18:400:18:42

Wow. And what sort of questions do they ask you?

0:18:420:18:45

It could be anything from your age, your household income, what's

0:18:450:18:49

your favourite colour, right down to your toilet roll preferences.

0:18:490:18:52

HE CHUCKLES

0:18:520:18:53

Brilliant. How much could you make, say, per month in doing this?

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I make between £50 and £60 per month doing it while commuting,

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but really, the sky is the limit.

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So to make extra cash by answering a few questions on your way to

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work, sign up with a reputable survey company,

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wait for the alerts to land in your inbox,

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zip through the questions and then claim your money.

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A note of caution, though.

0:19:170:19:19

Don't ever pay to register with a survey company.

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Now, not everybody goes to work by car or by public transport,

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but even in that case, there's still a way to make money.

0:19:270:19:32

But for this one, you'll have to put your running shoes on.

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Sign up to a rewards scheme like Bounts, Running Heroes or

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Sweatcoin, then connect to a fitness tracking app on your smartphone.

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Every time you run, walk, cycle or go to the gym,

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you'll earn points that can convert into vouchers for big name stores.

0:19:480:19:52

Personal trainer Jodi has been doing just that for a year.

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Jodi.

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-Jodi, hi. I'm David.

-How are you? Hi, David. Nice to meet you.

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What's in it for you?

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Well, at the end of the day,

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I'm earning money for doing what I love, going out and exercising.

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And in terms of points, what do they make?

0:20:070:20:09

-Prizes.

-Correct answer. I need to know more about the prizes.

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The prizes are fantastic.

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So it's cash rewards -

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£5, £10, £15 vouchers for hundreds of stores.

0:20:150:20:20

-I've earned about £50, £60 worth of vouchers so far.

-Wow.

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Any idea what you're going to spend them on?

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I'm going to keep saving up until Christmas and then use them

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-to put towards Christmas presents.

-Amazing! What a great idea.

0:20:290:20:32

-Right then, shall we go and build up some points?

-Fabulous, let's go.

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You lead the way.

0:20:350:20:36

Well, if it's easy cash you're after, how about earning

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extra money from things already at your disposal? Like Bobby has.

0:20:450:20:49

But we'll talk to you in just a moment.

0:20:490:20:51

But first, Alex Stephany,

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you've actually written a book about the sharing economy.

0:20:530:20:56

Tell us a little bit about what it is and how it's grown.

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So, the sharing economy

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is this new online economy that's being created by people

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who are renting, sharing

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and selling their assets to one another.

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And really, what the sharing economy is doing is it's unlocking

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the value in those assets when they're not being used.

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So that might be a parking space when no car is parked there.

0:21:150:21:19

It might be a car when it's parked, sat, doing nothing.

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It might be your home when you're on holiday and your home is empty.

0:21:230:21:26

Bobby, this is obviously just exactly what you're doing.

0:21:260:21:30

-You are renting car-park spaces.

-I do, yeah.

0:21:300:21:32

And how did you get involved in that?

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I had this parking space that was available

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and one of my friends actually gave me the idea, said,

0:21:360:21:39

"Well, have you not heard that you can rent out your space?"

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And I thought, "That's not a bad idea, I'll give it a try."

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Hence where I started a session online

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and I found a number of companies that were offering the services.

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So it took literally five minutes,

0:21:510:21:53

I signed up and I've been up for about three weeks now

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and I already made £100. So it's not bad money.

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Are there any costs involved to renting out your car parking space?

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No, there isn't besides the commission

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that the company would make.

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But that's only dependant on, obviously,

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if you have rented your space,

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and they will take a slight percentage from that.

0:22:110:22:14

-So this is big business?

-Absolutely. It's very big business.

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A very interesting phenomenon of the sharing economy websites

0:22:170:22:20

is that they're really powered by trust.

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It's the trust between me and you,

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and I will rent you my assets and you will rent my assets.

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And even though we'll be complete strangers,

0:22:270:22:28

that trust needs to exist.

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Alex, I actually hand over my parking ticket when I use them

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if there's still some money left on it, does that count?

0:22:340:22:36

-Is that part of the sharing economy?

-It is now.

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I think people are making money in all sorts of interesting

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and creative ways.

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Some people are in fact renting out their living rooms to become

0:22:430:22:47

offices for other people.

0:22:470:22:48

They'll be out at work and then someone else, a freelancer or small

0:22:480:22:51

business, will set up shop and work from their home when they are away.

0:22:510:22:56

People are also turning their kitchens into restaurants

0:22:560:22:59

and cooking for other people. So guests will come round,

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they will effectively buy a ticket for dinner.

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Are there any potential pitfalls?

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Well, people need to really acquaint themselves with the particular

0:23:060:23:09

service that they're going to be providing.

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Generally, the platforms,

0:23:110:23:13

they will have the customer support that is required.

0:23:130:23:16

A lot of them will have insurance policies that might protect

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not only the person renting out the assets,

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but the person renting those assets as well.

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With your new-found success, is there anything else you'd

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-consider doing in the sharing economy?

-Yeah.

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I find that tools would be great.

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It would be a great way to share my tools around.

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Usually, I'll have them sitting in a garage for ages

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and just collecting dust, so why not help someone else?

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It can benefit them.

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And it might benefit me as well if I can make a bit more on the side.

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And in terms of tax implications,

0:23:430:23:45

if you are earning this extra money, what would your advice be?

0:23:450:23:49

My advice would be to get some proper financial

0:23:490:23:52

advice from an accountant, generally,

0:23:520:23:54

but with that waiver, I would say this is generally taxable income,

0:23:540:23:59

and people need to be aware of that,

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but the Chancellor of the Exchequer did introduce two sharing

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economy tax breaks in the last budget which are worth checking out.

0:24:050:24:08

Brilliant. It sound like there's lots of money to be made out there.

0:24:080:24:12

And if you are worried about the tax implications,

0:24:120:24:14

then do contact HMRC for more information.

0:24:140:24:18

That's great advice, Denise.

0:24:180:24:20

And it seems a bit of extra cash might be especially useful

0:24:200:24:23

if you're married because a recent survey has revealed

0:24:230:24:26

that to have a happy marriage,

0:24:260:24:29

it's going to cost you in excess of £267,000.

0:24:290:24:33

That's all the money you'll be spending on each other

0:24:330:24:36

on things like holidays, gifts an pressies.

0:24:360:24:38

But does everybody pay their way?

0:24:380:24:40

-You treated me to go to Cuba, didn't you?

-Yeah, Cuba.

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Um, and I'm not very good with presents, so I don't know.

0:24:460:24:50

Probably some trainers or something.

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She probably spoils me more than I spoil her.

0:24:520:24:54

Last year...

0:24:540:24:56

you bought me a...Mini Cooper.

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What do I buy for you? Underpants.

0:25:000:25:02

Might spend a couple thousand a year.

0:25:020:25:05

But we do love a bargain. We like bargain underwear.

0:25:050:25:07

We're really pleased cos we found bargain underwear today,

0:25:070:25:11

a good reduction on the underpants today.

0:25:110:25:14

Well, she likes champagne every weekend.

0:25:140:25:18

-SHE GIGGLES

-Well, we get it for £10 a bottle.

0:25:180:25:21

-Don't tell them that!

-Well, £10 a bottle is all right.

0:25:210:25:24

Bargain hunting, that's all. I only buy it when I can buy a pack.

0:25:240:25:29

We don't buy too much. We just go out for meals.

0:25:290:25:32

We've got three kids together, so we don't get much time together.

0:25:320:25:34

She doesn't buy me any lavish things.

0:25:340:25:37

Rubbish! Rubbish.

0:25:370:25:38

Now, one thing that would definitely cause you a problem

0:25:410:25:43

in your relationship is

0:25:430:25:45

when you keep tripping over your partner's junk.

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But fear not because that junk might actually be worth something.

0:25:480:25:51

I'm here in a shop in Manchester that specialises

0:25:510:25:54

in selling off unwanted items. And with me is owner, Paul.

0:25:540:25:57

-Nice to meet you, Paul.

-Nice to meet you, Dom.

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Antiques dealer Robert Redford. Is that really your name?

0:25:590:26:01

It really is my name.

0:26:010:26:03

I'll want to see your driving licence after the programme.

0:26:030:26:05

-No problem.

-And Vicki. Vicki, you make a few quid by selling off stuff

0:26:050:26:08

-you no longer use, don't you?

-Yeah.

0:26:080:26:10

I moved into my house, and eight months into it,

0:26:100:26:12

I noticed the shed was getting, you know, really full.

0:26:120:26:14

And also with that, I was getting married,

0:26:140:26:16

so trying to save for the honeymoon.

0:26:160:26:18

So I thought, "Why not get rid of it?"

0:26:180:26:20

So I started just selling bits online, and really quickly,

0:26:200:26:22

I've just made loads of money.

0:26:220:26:24

Give me an idea of the sort of things that sell quickly.

0:26:240:26:26

Probably good bits of clothing that might still have the tags on

0:26:260:26:29

or clearly it's only been worn once.

0:26:290:26:31

You know, anything that's got a name to it.

0:26:310:26:33

Even a high street name people like, you know.

0:26:330:26:36

UGG boots sell quite quickly,

0:26:360:26:37

so, you know, if I've used them for a couple of years

0:26:370:26:40

but there's not really much damage, I've sold those for like 60 quid.

0:26:400:26:43

And, Paul, gosh, your shop is absolutely amazing.

0:26:430:26:46

Give us an idea of the sort of stuff you got here.

0:26:460:26:48

Well, we tend to cater for everybody, really. All ages.

0:26:480:26:52

Well, from Beano comics to vinyl, record players.

0:26:520:26:56

They've come back into fashion,

0:26:560:26:57

-the old Dansette record players from the

-'60s. I remember those.

0:26:570:27:00

Now, Rob, I've got come to you.

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How long have you been an antiques dealer?

0:27:020:27:04

-30 years.

-Doesn't that officially make you an antique yourself?

0:27:040:27:07

-Probably, yes.

-It does with cars, doesn't it? They become classics.

0:27:070:27:10

-You don't need to get personal.

-THEY LAUGH

0:27:100:27:12

-You obviously love the industry.

-I do, yeah, cos it's interesting

0:27:120:27:15

and you never know what you're going to come up with.

0:27:150:27:17

And as Vicki has pointed out, you know, there's

0:27:170:27:20

a market for everything that you can possibly come up with.

0:27:200:27:23

Things like wristwatches.

0:27:230:27:25

I mean, a good vintage wristwatch now will make a lot more money

0:27:250:27:29

than a pocket watch made 300 years ago.

0:27:290:27:32

Give me an idea of what really sells, what makes the good bucks.

0:27:320:27:37

-Telephones, these.

-Bakelites?

0:27:370:27:40

Bakelite. One of them is £175.

0:27:400:27:43

And actually, I get them converted -

0:27:430:27:44

you can actually plug them in and use them as a normal phone at home.

0:27:440:27:48

And that's the sort of thing... I've got to be honest,

0:27:480:27:50

if I found that in my attic, straight in the bin.

0:27:500:27:52

Well, yeah, most people do.

0:27:520:27:53

Rob, I'm going to ask you to look into the crystal ball now

0:27:530:27:56

and give all our viewers now an idea what to package away

0:27:560:27:59

carefully in the shoebox in the attic that they can leave

0:27:590:28:03

to their grandchildren that's going to be worth a fortune.

0:28:030:28:05

Well, that's a difficult one, but for my own grandchildren,

0:28:050:28:09

I think one of the things that may become iconic in the future

0:28:090:28:12

and possibly make money as a result are trainers.

0:28:120:28:15

You've got classic trainers or special edition trainers

0:28:150:28:18

or trainers that cost a great deal of money.

0:28:180:28:21

I think, in the future, they will be valuable.

0:28:210:28:23

They've even have got a market online now.

0:28:230:28:25

I mean, I know somebody in...

0:28:250:28:27

not far from here who puts his old trainers on and sells them.

0:28:270:28:31

I never thought people would buy old trainers.

0:28:310:28:33

Vi, you're the new kid on the block, what would you predict is going to

0:28:330:28:36

be a future classic, something valuable to store away?

0:28:360:28:39

-Gadgets. So iPods, you know, iPads, things like that.

-Yep.

0:28:390:28:42

If you think the first couple that ever came out, they're now worth

0:28:420:28:45

more than the ones you buy in the shops now.

0:28:450:28:47

We're constantly wanting to renew

0:28:470:28:49

and there might not even be anything wrong with the one

0:28:490:28:51

you're going to get rid of, so I'd say keep it in a drawer and,

0:28:510:28:54

hopefully in, what, five, ten years, it might even be worth something.

0:28:540:28:57

-Yeah. Leave it to the grandkids, worth a fortune.

-Why not?

0:28:570:29:00

Full of good advice. THEY LAUGH

0:29:000:29:03

Thanks a lot, guys. It's been lovely talking to all of you.

0:29:030:29:05

Now, earlier on, we met trucker Ted and his wife, Kristine,

0:29:050:29:08

who were desperately in need of some help freeing up their pension pot.

0:29:080:29:12

Let's see if our advice can sort them out.

0:29:120:29:14

And bear in mind, this is not just for them. It could be for you too.

0:29:140:29:18

Ted and Kristine have big plans for their retirement.

0:29:190:29:22

They want to put an extension on their bungalow,

0:29:220:29:25

which currently is a bit of a squeeze with two massive dogs

0:29:250:29:29

and visits from their extended family.

0:29:290:29:31

Uh-oh!

0:29:310:29:32

-ALL:

-Uh-oh!

0:29:320:29:34

Uh-oh indeed.

0:29:340:29:35

Personal finance expert Sarah Pennells has been going

0:29:350:29:38

great guns finding savings to help them on their way,

0:29:380:29:42

so far freeing up £1,986

0:29:420:29:45

for the couple's coffers.

0:29:450:29:47

And they could boost that even more if they cut back on what

0:29:470:29:50

they spend on pampered pooches Sultan and Bella.

0:29:500:29:54

So, tell me about your two dogs.

0:29:540:29:57

-They're really important to you, aren't they?

-Yeah. They really are.

0:29:570:30:00

-They're family, aren't they? The babies.

-Yeah.

0:30:000:30:03

You're not kidding me, Kristine.

0:30:030:30:05

This couple are so in love with their dogs that they spend

0:30:050:30:08

more money on food for their furry friends

0:30:080:30:10

than they do on themselves.

0:30:100:30:12

So, I have seen you giving Sultan and Bella

0:30:120:30:14

a couple of treats this morning.

0:30:140:30:16

Tell me a bit about what else you would spend on them.

0:30:160:30:18

Treats, food, that kind of thing.

0:30:180:30:20

I'd say, in a week, probably about £15 a week.

0:30:200:30:25

What about their food?

0:30:250:30:27

Their food, it depends where you buy it from.

0:30:270:30:30

I mean, with the brand that they are on, it ranges from £45, £40.

0:30:300:30:36

Which is what they have.

0:30:360:30:38

-I'd say it lasts about a month.

-OK.

-It lasts about a month.

0:30:380:30:41

So we're talking about £100-ish, or so.

0:30:410:30:43

-Does that sound about right to you?

-Yeah.

0:30:430:30:46

Britain is famously a nation of animal lovers,

0:30:460:30:49

so much so that, between us,

0:30:490:30:51

we spend more than £4 billion a year on our beloved pets.

0:30:510:30:56

But with building that extension at stake, Ted and Kristine need to

0:30:560:30:59

think about splashing out slightly less on some of those treats.

0:30:590:31:04

At the moment then, you reckon you spend about £60 on treats a month.

0:31:040:31:08

And it's not about saying you can't spend your money on your own dogs'

0:31:080:31:11

treats, but if you were to just cut that down by £10 a month,

0:31:110:31:15

well, that is £120 at the end of the year.

0:31:150:31:18

Yeah. It is a good idea. He likes giving them a lot of treats.

0:31:180:31:22

But I'm in agreement with you, we should cut back on them.

0:31:220:31:24

-I give them more than you do.

-Yeah.

-He's only got to look at me and

0:31:240:31:27

-I'll give him...

-We can cut back on them.

0:31:270:31:29

Yeah, we could do. We could do.

0:31:290:31:31

Don't give me those sad faces, Bella and Sultan.

0:31:310:31:34

You won't escape Sarah's mission to save Mum and Dad money.

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Just think about all the space you'll have

0:31:380:31:41

when the extension's done.

0:31:410:31:44

Right, going home now.

0:31:440:31:46

And here's another area where Sarah wants to see if she can save

0:31:470:31:50

the Penlingtons some hard cash - driving.

0:31:500:31:54

The couple are among the UK's 7.5 million two-car households,

0:31:540:31:58

but with Ted spending most of the week in his truck,

0:31:580:32:02

do they really need two cars?

0:32:020:32:03

So, you've got two cars and one of them sits in the depot

0:32:050:32:08

all week while you're out on the road.

0:32:080:32:11

What do you pay in petrol or diesel for this car,

0:32:110:32:15

say, every week?

0:32:150:32:16

Well, at the minute, it'll do me this week now, and then next week,

0:32:160:32:20

this weekend coming, I'll probably put £20 in it.

0:32:200:32:23

And that'll last me a month.

0:32:230:32:25

Wow.

0:32:250:32:28

Factor in the cost of petrol, plus the road tax,

0:32:280:32:30

MOT and servicing and Ted's car is costing him £1,200 a year,

0:32:300:32:36

all for the convenience of doing less than 20 miles a week.

0:32:360:32:39

But Ted leaves for work at funny hours,

0:32:410:32:43

normally around 3.00 in the morning.

0:32:430:32:46

So in his particular case, the car may well be the best option.

0:32:460:32:50

The only option really for you, cos of the hours you work,

0:32:500:32:52

would be a taxi because, obviously, public transport

0:32:520:32:55

isn't going to be an option.

0:32:550:32:56

No, it's not going to get me to work at 3.00.

0:32:560:32:58

-HE CHUCKLES

-And I've had a look

0:32:580:33:00

at a couple of quotes from local taxi firms,

0:33:000:33:03

and they reckon that they could

0:33:030:33:05

quote you a sort of weekly charge of about £30.

0:33:050:33:10

But that's going to be, obviously, about £1,500 over a year,

0:33:100:33:15

which it sounds like it is actually not going to save you any money

0:33:150:33:18

because you're spending less on your petrol

0:33:180:33:22

and on your insurance and car tax.

0:33:220:33:25

It sounds like selling Ted's car won't be the right thing to do

0:33:270:33:30

just yet.

0:33:300:33:32

But if Sarah manages to cash in that pension,

0:33:320:33:34

it may well be a different kettle of fish.

0:33:340:33:36

If in, say, a couple of years' time or so you're not working,

0:33:360:33:42

you know, the other option might be to just hand the car back.

0:33:420:33:47

If I'm not doing the hours and I'm not away as long,

0:33:470:33:50

-we don't need the two cars.

-Yeah.

0:33:500:33:53

So as soon as Ted retires, if he sells the car,

0:33:530:33:56

he can look forward

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to a yearly saving of £1,200.

0:33:570:33:59

But all of that is going to depend on

0:34:020:34:04

when he is able to cash in his pension, something that,

0:34:040:34:07

like all too many people, he's found completely baffling.

0:34:070:34:11

Up until now, that is.

0:34:110:34:13

So, with Kristine off to the bingo...

0:34:130:34:15

Is everyone ready for our bingo?

0:34:150:34:18

..Sarah and Ted are about to focus on sorting that out.

0:34:180:34:22

Ted has so far struggled sourcing the correct paperwork to

0:34:220:34:25

claim his pension, but Sarah's a dab hand at this.

0:34:250:34:28

And after a few clicks, she's found the forms on the internet

0:34:280:34:32

and printed them off.

0:34:320:34:33

And there's more good news to come.

0:34:330:34:35

So I've got a form here that you can use to claim your state pension.

0:34:350:34:40

Because you were 65... Was that earlier on this year?

0:34:400:34:43

-February.

-February.

-Yeah, February this year.

-OK.

0:34:430:34:46

So basically, if you reach state pension age

0:34:460:34:49

before the 6th of April this year, which obviously you did,

0:34:490:34:53

then if you don't need to claim your state pension,

0:34:530:34:57

or don't want to claim it,

0:34:570:34:59

then you get an extra 10.4%

0:34:590:35:02

-for every year that you put off claiming your pension.

-Hm.

0:35:020:35:06

Crikey! That's a top tip.

0:35:060:35:09

For those who decide not to claim their state pension as soon as

0:35:090:35:12

they turn 65...

0:35:120:35:14

6 and 5, 65.

0:35:140:35:17

..the government has been adding an extra 10.4% for every year

0:35:170:35:20

you wait. Bingo!

0:35:200:35:22

1-0 - 10.

0:35:220:35:24

Now, the rules on this are changing

0:35:240:35:27

and the sweetener to carry on working is only valid

0:35:270:35:30

if you reached pension age before the 6th of April, like Ted.

0:35:300:35:35

So for him, deferring his state pension for 12 months would

0:35:350:35:39

give him an extra £645 a year.

0:35:390:35:42

And if you do put off claiming it, it will be more useful for you

0:35:440:35:48

-to get a bit extra every week for the rest of your life.

-Hm.

0:35:480:35:51

But deciding whether to claim that state pension or wait a bit

0:35:530:35:57

isn't always the no-brainer it sounds, which is why Sarah

0:35:570:36:00

has called in reinforcements to help Ted decide what to do.

0:36:000:36:04

-Ted, Kristine, this is Alan. He's a pensions expert.

-Hello, Ted.

0:36:060:36:11

-Hello, Kristine.

-Hello, Alan.

0:36:110:36:13

'Sarah hopes that pension specialist Alan Higham can finally help Ted

0:36:130:36:17

'get his head round it.

0:36:170:36:18

'With the help of some fruit?'

0:36:180:36:20

Well, your job income, is taxed, you pay income tax on it.

0:36:220:36:26

When you get a state pension, you pay income tax on that.

0:36:260:36:29

And your private pension. You've got your job, represented by the apples.

0:36:290:36:33

You've got your money from the state pension via the oranges.

0:36:330:36:36

And your private pension via the bananas.

0:36:360:36:39

'Like almost 1,000,000 people over 65,

0:36:390:36:42

'Ted's keen to continue working to bring in extra income.

0:36:420:36:46

'But if he does that and claims the money from both his private

0:36:460:36:50

'and state pensions, his total annual income will push him

0:36:500:36:54

'into a higher tax bracket,

0:36:540:36:55

'which isn't what he hoped for his savings.'

0:36:550:36:58

All your life, you've wanted to be a high-rate taxpayer,

0:36:580:37:01

but in retirement, you're doing it at just the wrong time

0:37:010:37:03

cos you'll end up paying 40% on some of your pensioners tax.

0:37:030:37:07

Yeah, that's what I was wary of, that I'd end up paying too much tax.

0:37:070:37:11

And it works out then that my job is just not worth doing because

0:37:110:37:15

I'll be spending it all in tax.

0:37:150:37:17

'Alan reckons that waiting another year to claim his state

0:37:170:37:21

'pension will work out as Ted's best option.'

0:37:210:37:23

If you don't claim it, you've just effectively put it off.

0:37:250:37:28

And whilst you're putting it off, it grows and gets bigger.

0:37:280:37:31

For Ted, it will get bigger by just over 10% each year.

0:37:310:37:35

That's not too bad if you leave that.

0:37:350:37:37

That would be a good idea just to leave it.

0:37:370:37:39

-Yeah, leave that alone.

-Yeah.

0:37:390:37:41

'In the meantime, now Sarah's helped him

0:37:410:37:44

'understand what to do, Ted can claim his private pension and,

0:37:440:37:49

'better still, get it in a lump sum.

0:37:490:37:51

'Having it in one payment means that by the time he does start claiming

0:37:510:37:55

'his state pension, his income won't slip into that higher tax bracket.

0:37:550:38:00

'And best of all, it gives Ted

0:38:000:38:02

'and Kristine the cash they need to get cracking on that extension.'

0:38:020:38:06

So it's been worthwhile meeting Alan and having a chat?

0:38:060:38:08

-Yes, definitely.

-Definitely.

-It's been a pleasure to meet you.

0:38:080:38:11

-Great to see you.

-Thank you.

0:38:110:38:13

-Gold stars all around, Alan. Thank you very much.

-Thanks, Sarah.

0:38:130:38:16

Ted's chuffed to bits

0:38:160:38:17

to have finally got his pension all figured out

0:38:170:38:20

and that he won't lose more than he'd hoped to the taxman.

0:38:200:38:24

And if you're in doubt about your pension,

0:38:240:38:26

Citizens Advice offers free guidance and support.

0:38:260:38:30

As for the Penlingtons, they could save a whole

0:38:300:38:32

pile of cash by following the rest of Sarah's advice.

0:38:320:38:35

£286 by switching their gas and electricity supplier.

0:38:370:38:42

£200 by changing their broadband provider.

0:38:420:38:45

£1,500 if Teddy gives up his motorway lunches.

0:38:450:38:48

Oh, tough one.

0:38:480:38:50

£120 by cutting back on Sultan and Bella's treats.

0:38:500:38:53

That's a grand total of £2,106,

0:38:530:38:57

which will go up another £1,200

0:38:570:39:00

when Ted stops work and gives up his car.

0:39:000:39:03

-Good luck.

-Yeah, thanks.

-Job well done, Sarah.

0:39:030:39:05

-I'll speak to you again soon. Take care.

-Yeah.

-And you.

0:39:050:39:08

-Bye.

-Thanks, Sarah.

-Thank you very much. Bye-bye now.

0:39:080:39:10

-Amazing. Absolutely amazing.

-I think it's marvellous.

-It's...

0:39:100:39:15

I feel like 10st lighter.

0:39:160:39:18

I didn't have 10st to lose, but I do feel 10st lighter.

0:39:180:39:21

-The extension, now it's a go.

-It's going.

0:39:210:39:23

-It's definitely going up.

-Yeah, it's going up.

0:39:230:39:26

And I can't shout about the kitchen being small.

0:39:260:39:28

I'm the happiest man on the planet at this minute.

0:39:280:39:31

I feel the happiest man on the planet.

0:39:310:39:33

Now, trucker Ted is on the road,

0:39:370:39:39

but Kristine is here with us along with Simon Read.

0:39:390:39:42

Kristine, what's this whole experience been like

0:39:420:39:45

for you and Ted?

0:39:450:39:46

It been a relief to finally get everything sorted out

0:39:460:39:50

and to get some money for what we wanted to do.

0:39:500:39:52

So you've learned a lot from this whole experience?

0:39:520:39:55

Definitely learned a lot.

0:39:550:39:56

We needed someone to explain everything to us,

0:39:560:40:00

and we finally got it through you.

0:40:000:40:03

Ted was spending four times as much as you were on food

0:40:030:40:06

when he was on the road.

0:40:060:40:07

Has the Tupperware made a really big difference to you?

0:40:070:40:10

It's made a great deal of difference.

0:40:100:40:12

He's now eating proper meals like curries and pea soups,

0:40:120:40:16

braised steak and onions,

0:40:160:40:19

and stuff that he can eat and it doesn't have to be expensive.

0:40:190:40:23

I mean, tackling personal finances for anybody is a bit daunting.

0:40:230:40:26

We don't know where to start, what to do. Actually, we switch off.

0:40:260:40:29

Most people do. Where do people start?

0:40:290:40:31

Do you know what? They should start with ambitions.

0:40:310:40:34

They should start with, "What do I want to do with this?"

0:40:340:40:36

Because it's all about money and making the most of money,

0:40:360:40:39

giving yourself choices.

0:40:390:40:40

You know, some people live from day-to-day and then they say,

0:40:400:40:43

"Well, I can't afford a holiday, a car, a home,"

0:40:430:40:45

because they spent all their money. They haven't planned at all.

0:40:450:40:48

-They made the wrong choices, to be honest.

-Yeah.

0:40:480:40:50

The fact is you can have the home, you can have the car,

0:40:500:40:53

you can have the nicer time if you plan for it.

0:40:530:40:56

And the longer you plan or it - it's important to start in your 20s

0:40:560:40:59

when you're thinking about pension planning -

0:40:590:41:01

the more likely you can achieve your dreams.

0:41:010:41:03

It's just not a very sexy subject, though, is it, really?

0:41:030:41:06

But do you know what, it is sexy when you think about those dreams.

0:41:060:41:08

When you think about, "I want the holiday, I want the home,

0:41:080:41:11

"I want the car, how can I achieve it?

0:41:110:41:13

"Well, I save money here, there and everywhere

0:41:130:41:15

"and then I can have what I want." That's what it's all about.

0:41:150:41:18

Pension is just a savings scheme.

0:41:180:41:21

So I suppose it's the moment of truth, Kristine.

0:41:210:41:23

Are you anywhere near getting those home improvements done?

0:41:230:41:26

At the moment, within the next fortnight, the extension starts.

0:41:260:41:30

-Wow. Good news all around, I think, isn't it?

-It's very good news.

0:41:300:41:33

-Good luck with that.

-Thank you.

0:41:330:41:35

Well, if you'd be interested in having one of our experts

0:41:350:41:38

come round to sort out your finances, then e-mail us at...

0:41:380:41:41

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0:41:440:41:48

but if it is money-saving tips you're after,

0:41:480:41:50

here's a good place to start.

0:41:500:41:51

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0:41:540:41:58

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0:42:200:42:23

Well, Simon's still with us and he's going to answer some

0:42:270:42:29

questions from people we've met today.

0:42:290:42:31

And first up, Simon, is Sandra from Bolton.

0:42:310:42:35

She says, "My train to work is frequently delayed."

0:42:350:42:38

I've been there.

0:42:380:42:39

"Can I get a refund or money back, and how do I go about it?"

0:42:390:42:43

OK, well, you know, if your train is delayed,

0:42:430:42:45

you have the right to have money back. You know, the train

0:42:450:42:48

operator hasn't delivered the service that it promised you.

0:42:480:42:51

If it's delayed by half an hour,

0:42:510:42:52

you should get up to half your money back. If it's delayed

0:42:520:42:55

by more than an hour, you should get all your money back.

0:42:550:42:57

And it's quite simple to apply for it.

0:42:570:42:59

Now, you have to contact your own train operator.

0:42:590:43:02

Just go to his website, find out what you need to do and do it

0:43:020:43:05

quickly because you've got 28 days to get this money in as well.

0:43:050:43:08

So you just need to do it as soon as it happens

0:43:080:43:10

and you should get your money back pretty soon.

0:43:100:43:12

John from Salford says he thinks he's in the wrong council tax band.

0:43:120:43:16

What can he do to make sure he's in the correct one?

0:43:160:43:18

OK, there could be lots of reasons

0:43:180:43:20

why he's in the wrong council tax band.

0:43:200:43:23

It may be that when the valuation was set,

0:43:230:43:25

this was back in 1991, it was incorrect.

0:43:250:43:27

It may be that the property he's in now has been changed since then.

0:43:270:43:30

In which case, it could change bands.

0:43:300:43:32

It's quite easy to check out

0:43:320:43:34

whether you're in the right band by going to the valuation office.

0:43:340:43:37

They have a website. They show you how to do it.

0:43:370:43:39

You can apply, or appeal, the decision.

0:43:390:43:42

There is a warning, though.

0:43:420:43:44

Sometimes people are re-rated into a higher band.

0:43:440:43:47

So you need to be sure about what you're doing

0:43:470:43:49

because it could be a costly mistake if you go the wrong way!

0:43:490:43:51

It could be a bit of a shock, couldn't it?

0:43:510:43:53

-It's a gamble, isn't it?

-Yeah.

-Thanks, Simon.

0:43:530:43:55

And thanks to all our guests today and the people of Manchester.

0:43:550:43:59

-Join us next time for more moneysaving tips. Bye-bye.

-Cheerio.

0:43:590:44:02

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