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Whether you're a spender or a saver, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
we could all do with knowing how to make the most of our cash. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:08 | |
So we've found simple advice for you to do just that | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
and taken it to towns and cities right across Britain. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
Whatever help you need with your finances, we are Right On The Money. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:21 | |
Hello and welcome to Right On The Money, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
the series that's here | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
to find easy ways to put more cash in your pocket. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
And today, we are in the world's first modern industrial city - | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
Manchester. We are going to make it our business to make you savvier. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
And here's what's coming up on the show. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
We go all out to help this hard-working trucker finally | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
make sense of his finances. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
It's just gobbledygook. It's not English. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
No, it's just not understandable at all. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
Plus, find out how you could be quids in just by travelling | 0:00:52 | 0:00:56 | |
to and from work. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
I make between £50 and £60 per month doing it while commuting, | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
but really the sky is the limit. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
Cotton. This is what Manchester was built on. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
But last year, it was voted the most popular place in the UK to live. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
And the locals certainly agree with that, | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
they're really proud to live here. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
But 20 miles further up the road, we've been trying to help | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
a couple save enough cash to do up their house. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
Ted and Kristine Penlington, from Warrington, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
have been happily married for the past 33 years. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
And the secret of their wedding bliss is simple. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
It's because Ted is away from the house Monday to Friday | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
working as a long-distance lorry driver. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
It's not that you're out of the way, you're out at work. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
-There you go. -And if you don't earn the money, I can't spend it, can I? | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
I don't have a problem being away all week | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
cos I know the boss, as I call her, she's safe enough. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
We have the two dogs looking after her. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
There you go. That's a good boy. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
While Ted is away, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
Kristine doesn't have the bungalow quite to herself. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
Two other residents still need lots of attention - | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
her two pooches, Sultan and Bella. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
-The dogs are quite... -Mollycoddled is a way of putting it, I think. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
-Yeah. -The only thing I don't do is carry them about, I think. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
Well, we always make sure the dogs have got what I call the sweeties. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
We only give them dog treats, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:25 | |
not make them jam butties or anything like that. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
Give them chocolate, no! | 0:02:27 | 0:02:28 | |
No, we don't give them chocolate or anything. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
Ted's just turned 65 and would like to work a little less | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
and spend some more time at home. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
So he's tried to cash in his various pensions, but has always | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
given up halfway through as he's found the process too difficult. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
It's not hard to get your pensions, it's... | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
near on impossible | 0:02:49 | 0:02:50 | |
because nobody will give you the information you need to claim it. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:56 | |
Recent research has shown that the majority of UK savers | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
are just as confused as Ted is. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
57% said they didn't know when and how you could access your pension. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:09 | |
Time to call in a woman who unravels pensions with the same enthusiasm | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
others use to tackle a crossword, | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
personal finance expert Sarah Pennells. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
-Hello. Is it Kristine? -It is, yes. -Hi, I'm Sarah. -Hi, Sarah. -Hello. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
And if she can't help these two sort out the retirement plans, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
no-one can. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
So, Kristine and Ted, you've got three private pensions. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:35 | |
And have you taken any money out of any of them so far? | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
I've been trying to get my private pensions for five, ten years? | 0:03:39 | 0:03:44 | |
-Ten years, nearer on. -I sent the form off. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
And they sent me a letter saying, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
"We can sort this out for you, not a problem, we'll be in touch." | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
-During all this, they sent you all the forms, didn't they? -Yeah. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
And you just don't understand what they're talking about. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
If there's one thing pension companies are brilliant at | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
-it's not speaking English, so... -That's it. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
I'm not surprised you struggled with it. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
Oh, I didn't have a clue. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
I think that's hopefully something I can help you out with. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
And that can't come a moment too soon | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
because these two have big plans for their home. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
We bought this house about three years ago. Well, the bungalow. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:19 | |
And we want to extend it because it's not big enough | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
for the dogs and us. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:23 | |
-The big pup, he's grown a bit since we've been here. -Yes. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
And if he lies down on the floor, you just can't get round him. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
-We buy more dog food than what we do food. -Really? -Yeah. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
Hang on, so you spend more on food for the dogs than you | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
-do for yourselves? -Yeah. -Wow. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
If they want to extend their house, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
Kristine and Ted may have to consider reducing their expenses, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
so to get a sense of just how much money they need, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
Sarah has a good look around. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
This is part of the reason why we need to extend, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
or the main reason, is the kitchen is so small. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
I mean, as you can see, I can't put anything in it. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
There's not enough room for anybody in it. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
Only basically two of us can sit in it. And we can't have the dogs in. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
We need it done now because a lot of the family come round at weekends, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:12 | |
and you get the two dogs and everybody falling over each other. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
There's just nowhere to go. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:16 | |
And in terms of the actual building work and the project, | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
what would that cost? | 0:05:19 | 0:05:20 | |
We've had an estimate given to us which will cost us about £20,000. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
OK. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:25 | |
We will be doing lots of the work ourselves. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
That will save money that way. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
Well, hopefully, the pension will pay the biggest chunk of it, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
if nothing else, like. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
Sounds like cracking on with that extension really does | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
depend on unlocking Ted's pension pot. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
But before Sarah tackles that one, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
she's going through the Penlingtons' weekly outgoings | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
to see if there are any savings there to get them | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
on the right financial path towards their building work. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
So, Kristine and Ted, you've been really organised. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
I've got your annual statement for your gas and electricity. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
-You're on the standard tariff with your energy supplier. -Yeah. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
Have you switched or have you thought about switching? | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
We have thought about switching, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
but we didn't know whether it would make any difference. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
If you've never switched, you'll be on the standard tariff. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
But it's just not a good deal for customers. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
But having had a look at how much gas and electricity you use, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:22 | |
at the moment, it's about £1,000 a year | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
-for both gas and electricity, roughly. -Yeah. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
The most that you can save if you switch | 0:06:28 | 0:06:33 | |
is about £286.29 a year. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
-Wow. Yeah. -Which is not to be sniffed at, really. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
No, it isn't, actually. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:39 | |
In less than ten minutes and with just a few clicks, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
Sarah has put almost £300 | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
back in Ted and Kristine's bank. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
And if you still never switched supplier, well, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
the odds are you could probably get the same. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
Savings like those are why 3 million of us | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
switched electricity supplier in 2015, | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
an increase of more than 11%. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
And there's more switching magic from Sarah as she finds | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
a much cheaper alternative to the Penlingtons' telephone | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
and broadband package. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
There's a deal that I suggest you could go with | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
that costs about £220 a year. It's 18.50 a month. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:20 | |
So that's going to save you about £200. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:25 | |
That's great. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:26 | |
Wow, you're on fire today, Sarah. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
So there's another £200 in your pocket. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
In my pocket. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
No, in mine. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
It's a good start, but thousands of pounds are needed to begin | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
the work on Ted and Kristine's house, | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
so Sarah's on a mission to save the Penlingtons as much as she can... | 0:07:40 | 0:07:45 | |
I've got a little surprise for you. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
I've got one more area where we can hopefully save you some money. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
-I love you. -Hopefully. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:51 | |
..as she soon hones in on the vast amount of money trucker Ted | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
spends in service stations up and down the country at meal times. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
So, Ted, tell me about when you do your job, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
when you're out on the road. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:02 | |
-What do you spend? -I average roughly about £60 a week. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:07 | |
The problem is you have to go to either the services | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
or a truck stop. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:11 | |
And depending where you go, it can cost you | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
from £5, £7, £10 a go. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
Per meal. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:19 | |
Gordon Bennett! That's more than three grand every year | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
on lunches and motorway treats. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
But is there a way to save on that grub with the help | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
of Kristine's cooking skills? | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
All right, so, Ted, I've got a little demonstration for you. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
This is sort of showing you the kind of meals that you might | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
buy in a day. Here we go. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
That's your £60 - £10 a meal, £10 a day, £60 in a week, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
-you reckon, on average. -On average, yeah. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
Now, what we've gone and done... | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
We've done some shopping at the supermarket. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
Guess how much that cost me. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
-Not a clue. -£60. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
So we have got for £60... | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
I think there's probably enough food there to keep you | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
going for quite a few miles. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
Uh, yeah. That'll keep me going for a bit of time, that will, yeah. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
So the idea here, Ted, is that you plan ahead and that you know exactly | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
what you're going to be taking out on the road with you every day. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
-Mm-hm. -And I reckon that with a bit of careful planning | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
and a bit of canny shopping, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
you could probably get that £60 a week down to as little | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
as £30 a week. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
Over a year, that could save Ted and Kristine | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
a mouthwatering £1,500 and give him a taste of home into the bargain. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:35 | |
But will truck-stop Ted go for it, though? | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
-It does sound doable as long as... -You prepare it. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
Well, there is one more thing. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
I've got sort of my secret weapon, which is... | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
..plastic boxes. These are going to become your new best friend. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
-So you're happy? -I'm happy. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
-I'm happy. -You're happy. -Cos he's saving money. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
And I'm happy. Cos your saving money. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:57 | |
-The dogs, they're not happy, they lost the treats. -Brilliant. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
Yep, it's great. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
Now we don't all drive an articulated lorry up and down | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
the country, but us Brits do waste a lot of money buying food on the go. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:10 | |
But with a bit of meal planning, we could be quids in too. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
And with that £1,500, Sarah has so far managed to save Kristine | 0:10:14 | 0:10:19 | |
and Ted almost two grand, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
which takes her to the big one - | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
seeing what she can do to help unlock Ted's pension pot. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
But even for someone who loves this kind of stuff, that's | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
an awful lot of pension information for Sarah to plough through. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
Ted, I mean, that's a lot of paperwork you've got there. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
-Have you actually been able to make sense out of it? -No. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
-None whatsoever. -What's the biggest problem? Is it... | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
-Is it the language? Just explain what the biggest issue is. -It's... | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
just gobbledygook. It's not English. It's just not understandable at all. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:53 | |
-Shall I relieve you of the pension paperwork? -Yeah, please. Please. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
We find out later if Sarah can get Ted and Kristine any closer | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
to that pension cash. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:02 | |
And as she looks for other savings, she sets her sights on these two. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:07 | |
And we'll be finding out whether Ted and Kristine have managed to | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
wade their way through all that jargon later on in the programme. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
Now, our personal finance expert Simon Read | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
is a man a little bit like myself who hates jargon with a passion. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
As do you, Steve Jenner, from the Plain English Campaign. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
They're going to be trying to help our volunteers Debbie | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
and Ryan de-jargon some everyday documents that quite frankly | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
-drive us all mad, don't they? -They do. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
And it's one of my bugbears. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
Just tell me why there is so much jargon in the financial industry? | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
I think it's deliberate. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
I think the banks, the insurers, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:43 | |
the credit card companies want to trick people into buying | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
the wrong products, spending too much money on the wrong products, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
so they put confusing jargon in every single document | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
so that people don't really know what they're doing. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
-It's time to change it. -Would you agree with that, Steve? | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
I'd agree with that entirely. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:58 | |
Here we are, in the Museum of Science and Industry. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
This is hard science all around us. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
There's nothing really scientific about the financial industry, | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
it's all about prediction | 0:12:06 | 0:12:07 | |
and almost guesstimates and guesswork. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
It seems to me as well there is an attempt to stop people | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
actually reading through these things | 0:12:12 | 0:12:13 | |
so they don't actually read what things mean. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
And because of that, you're basically saying to people, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
"I trust you, do whatever you want with me." | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
And it's really dangerous. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:21 | |
And, Debbie, you've been actually looking at some contracts for us. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
What have you found very confusing? | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
I came across something called joint lives, last survivor. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
It sounds like an American movie, doesn't it? | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
-Joint Lives, Last Survivor, The Sequel. -A horror movie. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
It's actually not. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:36 | |
It's when two lives are insured, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
say a married couple or something like that, and the insurance | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
company will pay out on the death of the second person. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
It's as simple as that. Why give it such a title? Which is scary. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
-I have no idea. -What have you come across, Ryan? | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
I was looking at ISAs and I kept seeing the term compound interest. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
I know what it is. I know the theory behind it, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
I've studied it at school, but how does it actually work | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
-in reality? -Good question. -It is a good question. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
Compound interest is confusing to all of us because we can't | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
work out how much return on a savings we're actually going to get. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
In simple terms, | 0:13:05 | 0:13:06 | |
if you had 10% interest on £100 every year, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
you'd think you're getting £10 interest, but the second year, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
you're getting 10% of the 10%, which means you're getting... Do you know? | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
-I can't even work it out in my head. -THEY LAUGH | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
-It's that complicated. -It's that confusing, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
And what else have you been looking at for us? | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
Codicil, that was another one that I came across this morning. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
Well, strangely enough, I came across this when talking to | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
a solicitor just a week or so ago in relation to a will. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
What it is, it's a document that can either replace a will or it | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
can add to a will or amend a will depending on which part | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
of the world you're in. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:41 | |
I only found that out because the solicitor used this word to me. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
I hadn't got a clue what it meant. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:45 | |
But because I'm a member of the Plain English Campaign, I'm quite | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
used to saying, "Hang on, stop a minute, I don't know what you mean. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
"Please, explain what that means." | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
-A lot of people just don't do that, do they? -That's absolutely right. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
-They just say, "Sign on the dotted line." -That's what happens. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
They're scared of being thought stupid or ignorant, aren't they? | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
-Yeah. -When in fact, it's going to save them money, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
save them lots of worries later on | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
by actually speaking up and saying, "I don't understand." | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
I think we need to start fining the big financial institutions | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
if they don't speak in plain English. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
And I think maybe we should get people power for all of us | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
to say, "I don't understand this." | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
Rather than just simply signing the forms saying, | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
-"I'm up with it," say no. -Thanks a lot, guys. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
Hopefully, we'll understand jargon a little bit better. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
Now, here on Right On The Money, we're always looking for easy | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
ways not just to save you money but to make it too. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
And today, we've got some corkers for you | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
that really couldn't be any easier. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
They're the sort of thing you can do online, | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
on your way to work or going about your daily business. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
And our technology expert David MacLaren | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
has been checking them out. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:45 | |
3 million of us spend more than two hours travelling to | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
and from work by road and rail every single day. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
No wonder we get fed up with the daily grind. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
Well, I'm about to find out if there's a way to ease the | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
boredom of that journey to work and earn some extra money on the way. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:06 | |
It sounds a bit too good to be true if you ask me, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
but I'm willing to give it a go. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:10 | |
Today, I'm going to test out three ways you can make money on the move. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
First up, Nimber - | 0:15:18 | 0:15:19 | |
a delivery service which pays you to be a courier by picking up | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
and dropping off items on your normal routes to work. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
You simply log on and type in the start | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
and end points of your journey. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:34 | |
Then, a bit like a dating site, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
the system will match you with a delivery job along the way. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
I've arrived to pick up my first package, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
for which I'll be paid the princely sum of £25 to take it across London. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:48 | |
Hello. What have we got here? | 0:15:52 | 0:15:53 | |
-We've got some nice lemonades and iced teas. -Oh, fantastic. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:57 | |
Tell me, what do you get from using a service like Nimber? | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
Well, we're utilising journeys that are already existing. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
Also, it's very quick and convenient to use. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
And the price is fair as well. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:07 | |
Aren't you a bit concerned that I might just run off | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
and drink all of this by myself? | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
We're all insured up to £500 with every delivery, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
so we'll be confident that it arrives. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
Typically, how much you can earn depends on the size | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
and weight of the item and the distance you have to travel. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
Right, I'm off on my first delivery. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
But before I get to my destination, I'm going to speak to David, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
who does these kind of deliveries all the time. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
-What are the craziest things that you've had to deliver? -Livestock. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
-When I say livestock, I mean... -I'm sorry? | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
I mean cats. Kittens. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
-I've delivered three kittens and two puppies so far. -Right. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
And of course, these really are something that you can't find | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
an easy service for normally. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
How many times a week, a month do you do this? | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
It very much depends upon the schedule | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
I've got from my full-time job, but typically, if the timings | 0:17:04 | 0:17:09 | |
-and places are right, it can be three or four jobs per week. -Wow. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:14 | |
Do you have a feel for how much you make | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
maybe per week or per month, or whatever? | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
It might be £100 in a week. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
Good stuff. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
Five miles later, I'm about to make £25 | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
just for delivering those drinks. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:30 | |
Not bad for a morning commute. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
-Ah, Fred. -Hey. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:35 | |
There we go. There you are, for you. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
I think I've successfully not broken any of them. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
Tell me, why do you use the Nimber service? | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
For something like this which is maybe a bit big, bulky and fragile, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
it's better to get that rather than doing it through a standard courier. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
-Yeah. -And also it's got a personal touch to it as well. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
-Well, enjoy your lemonade. -OK, thank you. -Have yourself a good day. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
-Thank you very much. -Bye-bye. -Cheers. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
But that's just one way to make money on the move. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
For those who prefer a bit of mental stimulation in the morning, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
here's another way to cash in on your commute. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
So, here I am about to get on the X74 that goes from High Wycombe | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
to Slough. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:12 | |
Now, I bet you didn't know that you can make a bus journey | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
pay for itself. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:17 | |
Well, I'm about to meet someone who does exactly that, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
and they're going to show me how I can do it too. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
When she's not running her own money-saving blog, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
Emma Drew fills in online surveys for organisations like YouGov, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
MySurvey and OnePoll during her daily journey to work. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
Emma, lovely to meet you. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:37 | |
Tell me, how long have you been doing these online surveys for? | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
I've been doing them for about ten years now. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
Wow. And what sort of questions do they ask you? | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
It could be anything from your age, your household income, what's | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
your favourite colour, right down to your toilet roll preferences. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:18:52 | 0:18:53 | |
Brilliant. How much could you make, say, per month in doing this? | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
I make between £50 and £60 per month doing it while commuting, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
but really, the sky is the limit. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
So to make extra cash by answering a few questions on your way to | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
work, sign up with a reputable survey company, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
wait for the alerts to land in your inbox, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
zip through the questions and then claim your money. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
A note of caution, though. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
Don't ever pay to register with a survey company. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
Now, not everybody goes to work by car or by public transport, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
but even in that case, there's still a way to make money. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:32 | |
But for this one, you'll have to put your running shoes on. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
Sign up to a rewards scheme like Bounts, Running Heroes or | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
Sweatcoin, then connect to a fitness tracking app on your smartphone. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:45 | |
Every time you run, walk, cycle or go to the gym, | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
you'll earn points that can convert into vouchers for big name stores. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
Personal trainer Jodi has been doing just that for a year. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
Jodi. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:58 | |
-Jodi, hi. I'm David. -How are you? Hi, David. Nice to meet you. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
What's in it for you? | 0:20:01 | 0:20:02 | |
Well, at the end of the day, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
I'm earning money for doing what I love, going out and exercising. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
And in terms of points, what do they make? | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
-Prizes. -Correct answer. I need to know more about the prizes. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
The prizes are fantastic. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
So it's cash rewards - | 0:20:14 | 0:20:15 | |
£5, £10, £15 vouchers for hundreds of stores. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:20 | |
-I've earned about £50, £60 worth of vouchers so far. -Wow. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
Any idea what you're going to spend them on? | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
I'm going to keep saving up until Christmas and then use them | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
-to put towards Christmas presents. -Amazing! What a great idea. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
-Right then, shall we go and build up some points? -Fabulous, let's go. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
You lead the way. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:36 | |
Well, if it's easy cash you're after, how about earning | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
extra money from things already at your disposal? Like Bobby has. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
But we'll talk to you in just a moment. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
But first, Alex Stephany, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
you've actually written a book about the sharing economy. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
Tell us a little bit about what it is and how it's grown. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
So, the sharing economy | 0:20:59 | 0:21:00 | |
is this new online economy that's being created by people | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
who are renting, sharing | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
and selling their assets to one another. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
And really, what the sharing economy is doing is it's unlocking | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
the value in those assets when they're not being used. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
So that might be a parking space when no car is parked there. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
It might be a car when it's parked, sat, doing nothing. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
It might be your home when you're on holiday and your home is empty. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
Bobby, this is obviously just exactly what you're doing. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
-You are renting car-park spaces. -I do, yeah. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
And how did you get involved in that? | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
I had this parking space that was available | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
and one of my friends actually gave me the idea, said, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
"Well, have you not heard that you can rent out your space?" | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
And I thought, "That's not a bad idea, I'll give it a try." | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
Hence where I started a session online | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
and I found a number of companies that were offering the services. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
So it took literally five minutes, | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
I signed up and I've been up for about three weeks now | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
and I already made £100. So it's not bad money. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
Are there any costs involved to renting out your car parking space? | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
No, there isn't besides the commission | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
that the company would make. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
But that's only dependant on, obviously, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
if you have rented your space, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:11 | |
and they will take a slight percentage from that. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
-So this is big business? -Absolutely. It's very big business. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
A very interesting phenomenon of the sharing economy websites | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
is that they're really powered by trust. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
It's the trust between me and you, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
and I will rent you my assets and you will rent my assets. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
And even though we'll be complete strangers, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:28 | |
that trust needs to exist. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
Alex, I actually hand over my parking ticket when I use them | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
if there's still some money left on it, does that count? | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
-Is that part of the sharing economy? -It is now. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
I think people are making money in all sorts of interesting | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
and creative ways. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:43 | |
Some people are in fact renting out their living rooms to become | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
offices for other people. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:48 | |
They'll be out at work and then someone else, a freelancer or small | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
business, will set up shop and work from their home when they are away. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:56 | |
People are also turning their kitchens into restaurants | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
and cooking for other people. So guests will come round, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
they will effectively buy a ticket for dinner. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
Are there any potential pitfalls? | 0:23:05 | 0:23:06 | |
Well, people need to really acquaint themselves with the particular | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
service that they're going to be providing. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
Generally, the platforms, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
they will have the customer support that is required. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
A lot of them will have insurance policies that might protect | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
not only the person renting out the assets, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
but the person renting those assets as well. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
With your new-found success, is there anything else you'd | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
-consider doing in the sharing economy? -Yeah. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
I find that tools would be great. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
It would be a great way to share my tools around. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
Usually, I'll have them sitting in a garage for ages | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
and just collecting dust, so why not help someone else? | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
It can benefit them. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:40 | |
And it might benefit me as well if I can make a bit more on the side. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
And in terms of tax implications, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
if you are earning this extra money, what would your advice be? | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
My advice would be to get some proper financial | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
advice from an accountant, generally, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
but with that waiver, I would say this is generally taxable income, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:59 | |
and people need to be aware of that, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
but the Chancellor of the Exchequer did introduce two sharing | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
economy tax breaks in the last budget which are worth checking out. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
Brilliant. It sound like there's lots of money to be made out there. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
And if you are worried about the tax implications, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
then do contact HMRC for more information. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
That's great advice, Denise. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
And it seems a bit of extra cash might be especially useful | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
if you're married because a recent survey has revealed | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
that to have a happy marriage, | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
it's going to cost you in excess of £267,000. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
That's all the money you'll be spending on each other | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
on things like holidays, gifts an pressies. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
But does everybody pay their way? | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
-You treated me to go to Cuba, didn't you? -Yeah, Cuba. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
Um, and I'm not very good with presents, so I don't know. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
Probably some trainers or something. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
She probably spoils me more than I spoil her. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
Last year... | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
you bought me a...Mini Cooper. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
What do I buy for you? Underpants. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
Might spend a couple thousand a year. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
But we do love a bargain. We like bargain underwear. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
We're really pleased cos we found bargain underwear today, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
a good reduction on the underpants today. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
Well, she likes champagne every weekend. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
-SHE GIGGLES -Well, we get it for £10 a bottle. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
-Don't tell them that! -Well, £10 a bottle is all right. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
Bargain hunting, that's all. I only buy it when I can buy a pack. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:29 | |
We don't buy too much. We just go out for meals. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
We've got three kids together, so we don't get much time together. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
She doesn't buy me any lavish things. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
Rubbish! Rubbish. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:38 | |
Now, one thing that would definitely cause you a problem | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
in your relationship is | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
when you keep tripping over your partner's junk. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
But fear not because that junk might actually be worth something. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
I'm here in a shop in Manchester that specialises | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
in selling off unwanted items. And with me is owner, Paul. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
-Nice to meet you, Paul. -Nice to meet you, Dom. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
Antiques dealer Robert Redford. Is that really your name? | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
It really is my name. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
I'll want to see your driving licence after the programme. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
-No problem. -And Vicki. Vicki, you make a few quid by selling off stuff | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
-you no longer use, don't you? -Yeah. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
I moved into my house, and eight months into it, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
I noticed the shed was getting, you know, really full. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
And also with that, I was getting married, | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
so trying to save for the honeymoon. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
So I thought, "Why not get rid of it?" | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
So I started just selling bits online, and really quickly, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
I've just made loads of money. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
Give me an idea of the sort of things that sell quickly. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
Probably good bits of clothing that might still have the tags on | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
or clearly it's only been worn once. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
You know, anything that's got a name to it. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
Even a high street name people like, you know. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
UGG boots sell quite quickly, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:37 | |
so, you know, if I've used them for a couple of years | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
but there's not really much damage, I've sold those for like 60 quid. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
And, Paul, gosh, your shop is absolutely amazing. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
Give us an idea of the sort of stuff you got here. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
Well, we tend to cater for everybody, really. All ages. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
Well, from Beano comics to vinyl, record players. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
They've come back into fashion, | 0:26:56 | 0:26:57 | |
-the old Dansette record players from the -'60s. I remember those. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
Now, Rob, I've got come to you. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
How long have you been an antiques dealer? | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
-30 years. -Doesn't that officially make you an antique yourself? | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
-Probably, yes. -It does with cars, doesn't it? They become classics. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
-You don't need to get personal. -THEY LAUGH | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
-You obviously love the industry. -I do, yeah, cos it's interesting | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
and you never know what you're going to come up with. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
And as Vicki has pointed out, you know, there's | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
a market for everything that you can possibly come up with. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
Things like wristwatches. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
I mean, a good vintage wristwatch now will make a lot more money | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
than a pocket watch made 300 years ago. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
Give me an idea of what really sells, what makes the good bucks. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:37 | |
-Telephones, these. -Bakelites? | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
Bakelite. One of them is £175. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
And actually, I get them converted - | 0:27:43 | 0:27:44 | |
you can actually plug them in and use them as a normal phone at home. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
And that's the sort of thing... I've got to be honest, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
if I found that in my attic, straight in the bin. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
Well, yeah, most people do. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:53 | |
Rob, I'm going to ask you to look into the crystal ball now | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
and give all our viewers now an idea what to package away | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
carefully in the shoebox in the attic that they can leave | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
to their grandchildren that's going to be worth a fortune. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
Well, that's a difficult one, but for my own grandchildren, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
I think one of the things that may become iconic in the future | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
and possibly make money as a result are trainers. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
You've got classic trainers or special edition trainers | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
or trainers that cost a great deal of money. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
I think, in the future, they will be valuable. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
They've even have got a market online now. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
I mean, I know somebody in... | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
not far from here who puts his old trainers on and sells them. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
I never thought people would buy old trainers. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
Vi, you're the new kid on the block, what would you predict is going to | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
be a future classic, something valuable to store away? | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
-Gadgets. So iPods, you know, iPads, things like that. -Yep. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
If you think the first couple that ever came out, they're now worth | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
more than the ones you buy in the shops now. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
We're constantly wanting to renew | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
and there might not even be anything wrong with the one | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
you're going to get rid of, so I'd say keep it in a drawer and, | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
hopefully in, what, five, ten years, it might even be worth something. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
-Yeah. Leave it to the grandkids, worth a fortune. -Why not? | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
Full of good advice. THEY LAUGH | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
Thanks a lot, guys. It's been lovely talking to all of you. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
Now, earlier on, we met trucker Ted and his wife, Kristine, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
who were desperately in need of some help freeing up their pension pot. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
Let's see if our advice can sort them out. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
And bear in mind, this is not just for them. It could be for you too. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
Ted and Kristine have big plans for their retirement. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
They want to put an extension on their bungalow, | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
which currently is a bit of a squeeze with two massive dogs | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
and visits from their extended family. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
Uh-oh! | 0:29:31 | 0:29:32 | |
-ALL: -Uh-oh! | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
Uh-oh indeed. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:35 | |
Personal finance expert Sarah Pennells has been going | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
great guns finding savings to help them on their way, | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
so far freeing up £1,986 | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
for the couple's coffers. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
And they could boost that even more if they cut back on what | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
they spend on pampered pooches Sultan and Bella. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
So, tell me about your two dogs. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
-They're really important to you, aren't they? -Yeah. They really are. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
-They're family, aren't they? The babies. -Yeah. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
You're not kidding me, Kristine. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:05 | |
This couple are so in love with their dogs that they spend | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
more money on food for their furry friends | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
than they do on themselves. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
So, I have seen you giving Sultan and Bella | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
a couple of treats this morning. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
Tell me a bit about what else you would spend on them. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
Treats, food, that kind of thing. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
I'd say, in a week, probably about £15 a week. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:25 | |
What about their food? | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
Their food, it depends where you buy it from. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
I mean, with the brand that they are on, it ranges from £45, £40. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:36 | |
Which is what they have. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
-I'd say it lasts about a month. -OK. -It lasts about a month. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
So we're talking about £100-ish, or so. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
-Does that sound about right to you? -Yeah. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
Britain is famously a nation of animal lovers, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
so much so that, between us, | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
we spend more than £4 billion a year on our beloved pets. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:56 | |
But with building that extension at stake, Ted and Kristine need to | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
think about splashing out slightly less on some of those treats. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:04 | |
At the moment then, you reckon you spend about £60 on treats a month. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
And it's not about saying you can't spend your money on your own dogs' | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
treats, but if you were to just cut that down by £10 a month, | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
well, that is £120 at the end of the year. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
Yeah. It is a good idea. He likes giving them a lot of treats. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
But I'm in agreement with you, we should cut back on them. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
-I give them more than you do. -Yeah. -He's only got to look at me and | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
-I'll give him... -We can cut back on them. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
Yeah, we could do. We could do. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
Don't give me those sad faces, Bella and Sultan. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
You won't escape Sarah's mission to save Mum and Dad money. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
Just think about all the space you'll have | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
when the extension's done. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
Right, going home now. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
And here's another area where Sarah wants to see if she can save | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
the Penlingtons some hard cash - driving. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
The couple are among the UK's 7.5 million two-car households, | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
but with Ted spending most of the week in his truck, | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
do they really need two cars? | 0:32:02 | 0:32:03 | |
So, you've got two cars and one of them sits in the depot | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
all week while you're out on the road. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
What do you pay in petrol or diesel for this car, | 0:32:11 | 0:32:15 | |
say, every week? | 0:32:15 | 0:32:16 | |
Well, at the minute, it'll do me this week now, and then next week, | 0:32:16 | 0:32:20 | |
this weekend coming, I'll probably put £20 in it. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
And that'll last me a month. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
Wow. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
Factor in the cost of petrol, plus the road tax, | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
MOT and servicing and Ted's car is costing him £1,200 a year, | 0:32:30 | 0:32:36 | |
all for the convenience of doing less than 20 miles a week. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
But Ted leaves for work at funny hours, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
normally around 3.00 in the morning. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
So in his particular case, the car may well be the best option. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:50 | |
The only option really for you, cos of the hours you work, | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
would be a taxi because, obviously, public transport | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
isn't going to be an option. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:56 | |
No, it's not going to get me to work at 3.00. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
-HE CHUCKLES -And I've had a look | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
at a couple of quotes from local taxi firms, | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
and they reckon that they could | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
quote you a sort of weekly charge of about £30. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:10 | |
But that's going to be, obviously, about £1,500 over a year, | 0:33:10 | 0:33:15 | |
which it sounds like it is actually not going to save you any money | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
because you're spending less on your petrol | 0:33:18 | 0:33:22 | |
and on your insurance and car tax. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
It sounds like selling Ted's car won't be the right thing to do | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
just yet. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
But if Sarah manages to cash in that pension, | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
it may well be a different kettle of fish. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
If in, say, a couple of years' time or so you're not working, | 0:33:36 | 0:33:42 | |
you know, the other option might be to just hand the car back. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:47 | |
If I'm not doing the hours and I'm not away as long, | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
-we don't need the two cars. -Yeah. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
So as soon as Ted retires, if he sells the car, | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
he can look forward | 0:33:56 | 0:33:57 | |
to a yearly saving of £1,200. | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
But all of that is going to depend on | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
when he is able to cash in his pension, something that, | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
like all too many people, he's found completely baffling. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
Up until now, that is. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
So, with Kristine off to the bingo... | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
Is everyone ready for our bingo? | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
..Sarah and Ted are about to focus on sorting that out. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
Ted has so far struggled sourcing the correct paperwork to | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
claim his pension, but Sarah's a dab hand at this. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
And after a few clicks, she's found the forms on the internet | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
and printed them off. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:33 | |
And there's more good news to come. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
So I've got a form here that you can use to claim your state pension. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:40 | |
Because you were 65... Was that earlier on this year? | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
-February. -February. -Yeah, February this year. -OK. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
So basically, if you reach state pension age | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
before the 6th of April this year, which obviously you did, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
then if you don't need to claim your state pension, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
or don't want to claim it, | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
then you get an extra 10.4% | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
-for every year that you put off claiming your pension. -Hm. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
Crikey! That's a top tip. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
For those who decide not to claim their state pension as soon as | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
they turn 65... | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
6 and 5, 65. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
..the government has been adding an extra 10.4% for every year | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
you wait. Bingo! | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
1-0 - 10. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
Now, the rules on this are changing | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
and the sweetener to carry on working is only valid | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
if you reached pension age before the 6th of April, like Ted. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:35 | |
So for him, deferring his state pension for 12 months would | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
give him an extra £645 a year. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
And if you do put off claiming it, it will be more useful for you | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
-to get a bit extra every week for the rest of your life. -Hm. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
But deciding whether to claim that state pension or wait a bit | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
isn't always the no-brainer it sounds, which is why Sarah | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
has called in reinforcements to help Ted decide what to do. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
-Ted, Kristine, this is Alan. He's a pensions expert. -Hello, Ted. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:11 | |
-Hello, Kristine. -Hello, Alan. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
'Sarah hopes that pension specialist Alan Higham can finally help Ted | 0:36:13 | 0:36:17 | |
'get his head round it. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:18 | |
'With the help of some fruit?' | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
Well, your job income, is taxed, you pay income tax on it. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
When you get a state pension, you pay income tax on that. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
And your private pension. You've got your job, represented by the apples. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
You've got your money from the state pension via the oranges. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
And your private pension via the bananas. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
'Like almost 1,000,000 people over 65, | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
'Ted's keen to continue working to bring in extra income. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
'But if he does that and claims the money from both his private | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
'and state pensions, his total annual income will push him | 0:36:50 | 0:36:54 | |
'into a higher tax bracket, | 0:36:54 | 0:36:55 | |
'which isn't what he hoped for his savings.' | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
All your life, you've wanted to be a high-rate taxpayer, | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
but in retirement, you're doing it at just the wrong time | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
cos you'll end up paying 40% on some of your pensioners tax. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:07 | |
Yeah, that's what I was wary of, that I'd end up paying too much tax. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
And it works out then that my job is just not worth doing because | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
I'll be spending it all in tax. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
'Alan reckons that waiting another year to claim his state | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
'pension will work out as Ted's best option.' | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
If you don't claim it, you've just effectively put it off. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
And whilst you're putting it off, it grows and gets bigger. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
For Ted, it will get bigger by just over 10% each year. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:35 | |
That's not too bad if you leave that. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
That would be a good idea just to leave it. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
-Yeah, leave that alone. -Yeah. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
'In the meantime, now Sarah's helped him | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
'understand what to do, Ted can claim his private pension and, | 0:37:44 | 0:37:49 | |
'better still, get it in a lump sum. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
'Having it in one payment means that by the time he does start claiming | 0:37:51 | 0:37:55 | |
'his state pension, his income won't slip into that higher tax bracket. | 0:37:55 | 0:38:00 | |
'And best of all, it gives Ted | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
'and Kristine the cash they need to get cracking on that extension.' | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
So it's been worthwhile meeting Alan and having a chat? | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
-Yes, definitely. -Definitely. -It's been a pleasure to meet you. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
-Great to see you. -Thank you. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
-Gold stars all around, Alan. Thank you very much. -Thanks, Sarah. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
Ted's chuffed to bits | 0:38:16 | 0:38:17 | |
to have finally got his pension all figured out | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
and that he won't lose more than he'd hoped to the taxman. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
And if you're in doubt about your pension, | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
Citizens Advice offers free guidance and support. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:30 | |
As for the Penlingtons, they could save a whole | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
pile of cash by following the rest of Sarah's advice. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
£286 by switching their gas and electricity supplier. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:42 | |
£200 by changing their broadband provider. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
£1,500 if Teddy gives up his motorway lunches. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
Oh, tough one. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
£120 by cutting back on Sultan and Bella's treats. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
That's a grand total of £2,106, | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
which will go up another £1,200 | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
when Ted stops work and gives up his car. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
-Good luck. -Yeah, thanks. -Job well done, Sarah. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
-I'll speak to you again soon. Take care. -Yeah. -And you. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
-Bye. -Thanks, Sarah. -Thank you very much. Bye-bye now. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
-Amazing. Absolutely amazing. -I think it's marvellous. -It's... | 0:39:10 | 0:39:15 | |
I feel like 10st lighter. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
I didn't have 10st to lose, but I do feel 10st lighter. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
-The extension, now it's a go. -It's going. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
-It's definitely going up. -Yeah, it's going up. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
And I can't shout about the kitchen being small. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
I'm the happiest man on the planet at this minute. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
I feel the happiest man on the planet. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
Now, trucker Ted is on the road, | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
but Kristine is here with us along with Simon Read. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
Kristine, what's this whole experience been like | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
for you and Ted? | 0:39:45 | 0:39:46 | |
It been a relief to finally get everything sorted out | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
and to get some money for what we wanted to do. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
So you've learned a lot from this whole experience? | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
Definitely learned a lot. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:56 | |
We needed someone to explain everything to us, | 0:39:56 | 0:40:00 | |
and we finally got it through you. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
Ted was spending four times as much as you were on food | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
when he was on the road. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:07 | |
Has the Tupperware made a really big difference to you? | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
It's made a great deal of difference. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
He's now eating proper meals like curries and pea soups, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
braised steak and onions, | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
and stuff that he can eat and it doesn't have to be expensive. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
I mean, tackling personal finances for anybody is a bit daunting. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
We don't know where to start, what to do. Actually, we switch off. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
Most people do. Where do people start? | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
Do you know what? They should start with ambitions. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
They should start with, "What do I want to do with this?" | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
Because it's all about money and making the most of money, | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
giving yourself choices. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:40 | |
You know, some people live from day-to-day and then they say, | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
"Well, I can't afford a holiday, a car, a home," | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
because they spent all their money. They haven't planned at all. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
-They made the wrong choices, to be honest. -Yeah. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
The fact is you can have the home, you can have the car, | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
you can have the nicer time if you plan for it. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
And the longer you plan or it - it's important to start in your 20s | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
when you're thinking about pension planning - | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
the more likely you can achieve your dreams. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
It's just not a very sexy subject, though, is it, really? | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
But do you know what, it is sexy when you think about those dreams. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
When you think about, "I want the holiday, I want the home, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
"I want the car, how can I achieve it? | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
"Well, I save money here, there and everywhere | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
"and then I can have what I want." That's what it's all about. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
Pension is just a savings scheme. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
So I suppose it's the moment of truth, Kristine. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
Are you anywhere near getting those home improvements done? | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
At the moment, within the next fortnight, the extension starts. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
-Wow. Good news all around, I think, isn't it? -It's very good news. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
-Good luck with that. -Thank you. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
Well, if you'd be interested in having one of our experts | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
come round to sort out your finances, then e-mail us at... | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
Now, we can't promise to get to everybody who gets in touch, | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
but if it is money-saving tips you're after, | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
here's a good place to start. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:51 | |
Our website has everything you need to sort out your spending. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
We've teamed up with the Money Advice Service | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
to bring you easy-to-use moneysaving tools | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
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or credit cards and give your money a complete health check. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:11 | |
Download them at... | 0:42:11 | 0:42:12 | |
..where you can also take our interactive spending test. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
And you'll find plenty more tips | 0:42:19 | 0:42:20 | |
and advice to keep your finances on track. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
Well, Simon's still with us and he's going to answer some | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
questions from people we've met today. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
And first up, Simon, is Sandra from Bolton. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
She says, "My train to work is frequently delayed." | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
I've been there. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:39 | |
"Can I get a refund or money back, and how do I go about it?" | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
OK, well, you know, if your train is delayed, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
you have the right to have money back. You know, the train | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
operator hasn't delivered the service that it promised you. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
If it's delayed by half an hour, | 0:42:51 | 0:42:52 | |
you should get up to half your money back. If it's delayed | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
by more than an hour, you should get all your money back. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
And it's quite simple to apply for it. | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
Now, you have to contact your own train operator. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
Just go to his website, find out what you need to do and do it | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
quickly because you've got 28 days to get this money in as well. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
So you just need to do it as soon as it happens | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
and you should get your money back pretty soon. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
John from Salford says he thinks he's in the wrong council tax band. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:16 | |
What can he do to make sure he's in the correct one? | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 | |
OK, there could be lots of reasons | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
why he's in the wrong council tax band. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:23 | |
It may be that when the valuation was set, | 0:43:23 | 0:43:25 | |
this was back in 1991, it was incorrect. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:27 | |
It may be that the property he's in now has been changed since then. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:30 | |
In which case, it could change bands. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:32 | |
It's quite easy to check out | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
whether you're in the right band by going to the valuation office. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
They have a website. They show you how to do it. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:39 | |
You can apply, or appeal, the decision. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:42 | |
There is a warning, though. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
Sometimes people are re-rated into a higher band. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:47 | |
So you need to be sure about what you're doing | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
because it could be a costly mistake if you go the wrong way! | 0:43:49 | 0:43:51 | |
It could be a bit of a shock, couldn't it? | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
-It's a gamble, isn't it? -Yeah. -Thanks, Simon. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:55 | |
And thanks to all our guests today and the people of Manchester. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:59 | |
-Join us next time for more moneysaving tips. Bye-bye. -Cheerio. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:02 |