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Whether you're a spender or a saver,

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we could all do with knowing how to make the most of our cash.

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So we've found simple advice for you to do just that

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and taken it to towns and cities right across Britain.

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Whatever help you need with your finances, we are Right On The Money.

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Hello and welcome to Right On The Money,

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the series that's all about putting some of that hard-earned cash back

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where it belongs - in your pocket.

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And today we're in a city that's a particularly good one

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for getting money out of your pocket - lovely Leeds,

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which has been dubbed the best place for shopping in the whole UK.

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As always, we've got some great advice for you,

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and here's what's coming up on today's show...

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We go all out to save this hard-working mum some serious cash.

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But even we were shocked by just how much better off she's going to be.

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It makes me think that I've wasted so much money.

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In fact, I have. It's not...

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I have, definitely, haven't I?

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And can you really make your fortune by posting funny videos online?

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Well, one of our experts is prepared to give it a shot

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with the help of this dancing dog.

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This is where my dancing skills come in.

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Now, Leeds actually has 3.5 million square feet of retail space.

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That's a whole lot of temptation.

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That's a whole lot of feet, Denise.

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But our first priority today

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is giving one busy Yorkshire mum something that money can't buy.

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Angela Ord from Sheffield has a demanding job as a paramedic,

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but when it comes to making financial decisions,

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she hasn't got a Scooby-Doo.

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To be truthful, I don't understand finances.

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I don't know if it's laziness

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or if it's just lack of knowledge or lack of interest.

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There's more important things for me to do.

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The way I see it is, if I want more money, I do overtime.

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That's how I cover the costs of things.

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Angela lives with her son Toby, and to make sure she can

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cover all their bills, she takes on extra overnight shifts.

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Hard work certainly runs in the family,

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because 15-year-old Toby's got a job, too.

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I'm just working at a corner shop just down the road,

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and I just stack shelves and mop and sweep up and clean stuff.

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He's a good boy.

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Single parent Angela has been working all hours to pay off

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her mortgage and fund the occasional holiday for her and Toby.

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I'm proud of my mum because she's managed to look after me,

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for a start, and to be able to look after me on her own...

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I don't think many other parents would be able to do that,

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so, yeah, I'm really proud of her.

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Aw, thank you, son.

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Aw! Because Angela spends so much time working overtime shifts,

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she often relies on her mum to look after Toby.

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Bye, Toby. Bye, Mum.

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If I'm on a twilight, which, obviously,

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I'm out on an evening and a night shift, Mum will come and sleep over.

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Sometimes I get stressed about the situation I'm in,

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because I know I've got to go out to work

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and maybe if I'm on a run of night shifts or day shifts,

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I count them away so that I can be home with Toby.

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With Toby growing up fast,

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Angela is desperate to work less and start managing her money better,

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and we know just the man who can help her -

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personal finance expert Simon Read.

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-Angela?

-Yes, it is. Hello.

-Hi, I'm Simon. Nice to meet you.

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Before Simon gets down to the business of Angela's bank balance,

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he wants to find out a bit more about the job she's so dedicated to.

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Why do you love the job so much?

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Oh, why do I love the job?

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It makes me feel good about myself.

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It makes me feel like I'm doing something worthwhile.

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So you have to make a lot of sacrifices for your job,

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with the long hours and the extra shifts and so on?

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Mmm-hmm, I do.

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Predominantly, a chunk of my wage is because I work shifts.

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-Yes.

-And that chunk of my wage is what gives me and Toby a better lifestyle.

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So if there's something I want,

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I'll work out how much it is, and maybe four, five, six,

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shifts overtime and that will fully cover the cost.

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What if I told you that if you spent four hours looking at your finances,

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you could save yourself £1,000 a year?

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Wouldn't that be preferable to doing 70 hours of extra work?

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Yeah, definitely!

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Show me how to do it.

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I'll certainly try.

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That's a bold statement, Simon.

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Time to start that clock.

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He begins by looking at simple ways

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to save cash on unnecessary expenses,

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like Angela's premium bank account.

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You currently have an account which you pay money for.

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How much do you pay for your bank account?

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-It's £10 a month, standard.

-Yep.

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But if I go a penny overdrawn, it's £15.

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A penny overdrawn, you get charged an extra fiver?

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Now, would you be prepared to switch your bank account or is there a loyalty issue?

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No, I'd like to switch my bank account.

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Although Angela's bank account gives her some extra benefits,

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such as basic mobile phone and holiday insurance,

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Simon's convinced that it's not worth the money she pays.

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So instead, he's found her an account that GIVES her cash,

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rather than takes it away.

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One I'm looking at actually pays cashback when you spend.

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The way it works, I think, is brilliant.

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It pays 1% cashback on water and council tax bills, which we all pay,

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which means you're going to make some money.

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It pays 2% cashback on your gas and electricity bills.

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It pays 3% cashback on mobile, home phone, broadband

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and paid-for TV packages.

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Don't be stuck with some old account that's charging you too much.

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Find something that actually works for you and that benefits you.

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Sounds really good, actually.

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Switching your bank account is usually pretty straightforward.

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It will only take about a week,

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and your bank will do all the hard work

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and transfer those direct debit payments, too.

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More than 1.1 million of us switched in the last year alone.

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And with the deal that Simon's found her, Angela is about to join them.

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If you get rid of your old bank account,

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for which you're paying up to around £150, £170 a year,

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and switch to this account,

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I reckon you'll be at least £150 a year better off.

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-How does that sound?

-Lovely!

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That's a good start, Simon.

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When those cashback payments start coming her way,

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Angela will be quids in.

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-I'm going to be rich at this rate!

-Let's hope so!

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And Simon's on a roll.

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He's instantly onto another big saving.

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So far, Angela's never been tempted to switch energy supplier,

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and she's been with the same one for about 20 years.

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To be fair, I'm quite set in my ways.

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I am quite set in my ways about things,

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and maybe there's a fear factor that things might go wrong.

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But with just a few quick clicks,

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Simon has found a deal which could save Angela some serious cash.

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So we go to a comparison site, we put in your details.

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There's a button here. I'll press that, and let's hope this works.

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How much do you reckon you could save?

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-Maybe about £20?

-£20 a month?

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Roughly?

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In fact, you could probably save £306 a year,

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which is roughly about £25, £26 a month.

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Wow! Another great saving.

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I never even thought about it before.

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I think I'll have to give that a shot.

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Now he's made some easy savings, it's time for Simon

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to take on one of Angela's major money-wasting habits.

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She's currently forking out

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a quarter of the money she earns on food.

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So, listen, Angela, how much do you spend a month on shopping?

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I spend about £500, approximately, a month.

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£500 a month?! And there's only her and Toby!

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Why are you spending so much when it's just the two of you?

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I don't shop around. I go to the same place every time,

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three times a week, and you can guarantee that, weekly,

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I'll spend 70, 80, 90 on one shop

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and then maybe 50, 60 on another shop.

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I go in, I pick anything up that I want...

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I think Simon might need some emergency assistance on this one.

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Listen, I think we could really do with some help here.

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She just spends too much.

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Enter Charlie Hooson-Sykes,

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food blogger and top-tip giver on all things edible.

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She's an expert in shopping and saving.

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Let's have a nosy.

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OK, definitely not a lot for 500 quid a month.

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-Shall we head into the fridge?

-LAUGHS

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I really... As you can see, I like to have fresh fruit and veg.

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-Yep, absolutely.

-I don't always, after a 12-hour shift,

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-have time to prepare a meal.

-No.

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Angela buys so much stuff to make sure that Toby gets his five a day.

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Trouble is, because she works such long hours,

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most of it ends up in the bin.

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You've got these in the bag and they're going a bit sweaty and,

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as you can see, they're starting to go a bit bad.

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The best thing to do is, when you get them, take them out of the bag.

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hour or two out on the side, and it will dry out

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and then you can pop it into the fridge on its own

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and it will still last a little bit longer.

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Charlie and Simon are keen to get to the root of why Angela is going so

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wrong, loading her supermarket trolley with food she doesn't need.

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So when you go shopping, do you actually make any sort of list,

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any sort of plans,

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or do you just wander around and throw things in the trolley?

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-I just turn up and shop.

-LAUGHTER

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But Simon is a man with a plan.

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To break her careless attitude to shopping,

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he's taking Angela to the local supermarket

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to see what happens when she's let loose in the aisles.

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This mince, I would probably just think, "Wow, that's half price,"

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and just pick it up without checking the contents,

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without checking anything.

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You haven't got much time so you just rush through.

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-And, as a consequence, you overspend.

-Yeah.

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Charlie is keen to show how just a bit more thought could help Angela

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slash what she spends on shopping.

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It's interesting, the tins here are very pretty.

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However, in these slightly less salubrious conditions,

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we have the cheaper tins.

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So it's a question of looking away from where they want you to look,

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into where you should find the right-price stuff.

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For you. Exactly.

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Those expensive ones that were caught by my eye were 95p or £1.05,

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depending on what kind of can you got.

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These ones down here, they're only 31p a can.

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-That's quite a lot of money.

-I can get three of them for one of them.

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Exactly.

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And it seems that Simon and Charlie's double act

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is paying dividends.

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Angela is finally realising how she could shop smarter.

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I think I probably take away that I need to spend

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-a little bit more time planning.

-Planning and preparing.

-Yeah.

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And maybe looking at labels a little bit more, for costs.

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You've got to put the effort in! You've got to put some work in!

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You'd be saving money if you did that.

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It just takes a little bit of planning.

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I'm going to keep on telling you off until you understand this.

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Plan ahead and you'll save,

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fail to plan and you'll overspend.

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Sounds like Angela has really taken Simon's words to heart.

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And if she follows his advice on food shopping,

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we estimate she could save £3,000 a year.

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And there are plenty more huge savings ahead

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for this hard-working paramedic.

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Among them, Simon will deliver one of the biggest single savings

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our experts have ever found.

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That's incredible. You'd save five years of repayments,

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and that's five years of extra interest.

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Sounds like Angela will be switched on

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to switching to better deals from now on.

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We'll see how much more we can save her later on in the programme.

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Andy Webb from the Money Advice Service is here, along with Karyn,

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who is affectionately known as the blogger Miss Thrifty.

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We're going to come to you in a second, Karyn, but first, Andy,

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they say, on average, people can save about £300

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by switching energy companies.

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-Why aren't more people doing it?

-Yeah, I mean, there's a few reasons.

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Some people are maybe a little bit scared about what happens.

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Are they going to dig up the roads to change the pipes?

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Is there going to be a break in my power while the switch is going on?

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That's not going to happen. You won't see any change at all

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to the power you use. Some people think loyalty pays.

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-Here, it really doesn't.

-I do!

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Yeah, you pay more than everyone else...

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Actually, you've got a confession to make, Denise, haven't you?

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I did change after the programme last year.

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I did change mine and I'm very happy with the savings I've made.

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-It was considerable, wasn't it?

-It was a considerable amount so I'm very happy.

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That's the other thing, people think it'll be too much hassle,

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they put it on the to-do list,

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it never gets to the top and they never get round to it.

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And, Karyn, you've changed your energy provider eight times

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over the last few years. Why's that?

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Because of better deals.

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Gas and electricity, it's not like going out to buy sausages,

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where you get different quality products from different suppliers.

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Gas and electricity, it's all the same,

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as long as your boiler's firing up, your lights are switching on,

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so why wouldn't you go and pick the best deal

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when there's so much money to be saved?

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And it isn't just a better deal on your energy supply

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that you shop around for, is it?

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No, I shop around for everything.

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But energy in particular,

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because there's so much money to be saved and it takes minutes,

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just minutes, to do it online

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using one of the price comparison websites. You can't lose.

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And you have no problems in switching quite frequently,

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because you've done that for the past few years?

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I tend to switch every year when my tariff expires.

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I switched, funnily enough, just this morning,

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cos my current tariff is due to expire in the next few weeks,

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and I've saved myself the best part of £500.

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Karyn, you are definitely a super-savvy money-saver.

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We spoke to Angela earlier, who's talked about switching her banks.

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Is that something that we should all be investigating?

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Yeah, absolutely. People do worry a little bit about their money.

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Often people get their bank account at 18, or just before,

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and then they're with them 10, 20, 30 years, you never change.

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Again, that's me.

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It's not broken, I just don't change, especially with my bank.

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And people might worry about what happens, because this is your money,

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but this is seven-day switching service

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and it literally just takes seven working days.

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Your money, your standing orders, your direct debits,

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they'll all be moved over to the new account, so you don't have to worry about that.

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And then for three years after that, any other payments in and out,

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they'll also be forwarded across, so you've got time to pick up

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anything you might have missed, which makes it really, really easy.

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Perfect. Good advice, I think.

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-Fantastic.

-Thanks a lot for your time.

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Now, online channels like YouTube

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are transforming the way we access and watch our favourite moments

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in TV and music history.

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And it's proved to be a pretty lucrative way of making money, too,

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or at least it has for those who have managed to strike gold

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by posting their home-made videos online.

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Ow!

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Ooh!

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This online video of one-year-old Charlie

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mischievously nibbling his big brother Harry's finger

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went viral around the world.

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Charlie!

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That really hurt.

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And to date, it's been viewed an incredible 836 million times.

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CHARLIE LAUGHS

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In the process, it's made the family a whopping £500,000.

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And that really hurt, Charlie.

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That's because once videos like this become hugely popular,

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they attract the attention of companies that want to cash in

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and advertise alongside them.

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But it's not just funny kid videos that can make you money.

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Cute animal clips are just as popular.

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Money-saving expert Richard Fenton recently wrote that posting funny

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videos of your pet were an easy way to make extra dough.

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So what I wanted to know,

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is it really that simple to earn cash from your own videos,

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and could Richard put his money where his mouth is

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and manage it himself?

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Yes, I did write a piece about how

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everybody should be able to make money doing a blog video,

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dancing with their dog.

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And now Denise has challenged me to do it myself.

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But does Richard actually have a dog?

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No, but I'll get one.

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Richard needs a four-legged friend and sharpish.

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That was easy enough.

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Come back!

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But you know what they say - never work with children or animals.

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With his dog back on a tight leash...

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Come on. Good boy.

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..Richard can turn his attention to some canine freestyle.

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First, some music.

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# Who let the dogs out...? #

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# How much is that doggy in the window...? #

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It helps if your dog actually likes the track, too.

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# Puppy love... #

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# You ain't nothing but a hound dog... #

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That's made his ears prick up, Richard.

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All you need now is a doggy dance routine,

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lots of practice and let's get the cameras rolling.

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This is where my dancing skills come in.

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There we have it. One video.

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Now all we've got to do is get it online.

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Come on, Max.

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Richard's definitely got the moves.

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And while I'm still not convinced he can manage

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to turn this canine jive into a money-spinner,

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there are people who make a regular income

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from posting their videos online.

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So I've sent him to meet a Yorkshire mum who's turned her part-time hobby

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of sharing animal animations into a lucrative little earner.

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Happy birthday.

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May you have a tree-swingin' and gift-bringin' time.

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Tell me a little bit more

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about the actual videos that you put online.

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OK. They are greetings cards,

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or videos, and people use them to share.

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They'll post them on social media sites,

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to wish people happy birthday.

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And we've branched out,

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and do Valentines and Easter and Christmas as well.

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Sophie posts an average of two videos a week,

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which you can download and share for free.

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So how does she make money if she doesn't charge?

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Well, her growing audience caught the attention of YouTube,

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who said that if she agreed

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for adverts to be placed alongside her videos,

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she'd be paid a cut of the revenue.

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Ohh-ooh-ohh!

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Just remind me again, how many people do you get

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viewing your videos on an average month?

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It's just over a million views a month I get.

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That's a fairly impressive number.

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It's quite high, yeah.

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In terms of revenue, what sort of numbers are we talking here?

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Last year, it was just over £9,000.

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Right. That's a fairly impressive number

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for something that you perhaps do part-time.

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Yeah.

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Blimey, that's not bad at all.

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And if your video becomes a global hit, well, the sky's the limit.

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With a few clicks, Richard's dancing dog video

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is up on the internet and about to go global.

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Cool moves.

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Are you talking about me or the dog?

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I think Max is definitely the best.

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I think the advertisers are going to like this.

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I think they could come flocking.

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I can feel some big names already wanting to get behind this.

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I'm not going to be invited to Strictly this year,

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but I think my moves are pretty good.

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But will Richard's video be an online sensation

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and bring in the big money?

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Richard's with us now, along with Janet,

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who has a rather mysterious way of making money.

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Don't tell us yet, Janet, because I'm dying to come to Richard

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and find out how his dancing dog video has done.

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How many views have you had, Richard?

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-83.

-Million?

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-No.

-You mean just two digits - 83?

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83. Two of those were the cat.

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-No! I bet four of them were your mum, weren't they?

-Yep!

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I think I know the answer to this one. How much have you made?

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A sum total of zero.

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I'd like to say I feel really sorry for you, but I watched the video and I don't.

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It was never going to be a success, Richard, was it?

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But at least it was an effort. You gave it a try, didn't you?

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Yeah. That's the thing.

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It's getting out there, trying something.

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It's just like any form of stardom that you chase,

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whether you want to be a movie star,

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big in the music industry, big on TV.

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It is a long shot, and you've really got to hit the mark.

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So if you think you can just produce something overnight,

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get it on YouTube and see the money come rolling in - no.

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It's going to be one in a million.

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But there are simpler, easier ways to make money

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in less conventional ways.

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So, for example, if you want to recycle toilet rolls,

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instead of just throwing them away, you can store them up

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and then sell them on eBay in packs of ten

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to people who might be wanting to do arts and crafts.

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My hamster would be devastated if I robbed him of his toilet rolls.

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He won't like you, Richard. Janet, tell us about

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your less conventional way of earning money.

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I go around checking on people's level of customer service

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in major organisations, such as banks, department stores.

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And I work for a national company

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who specialises in optimising performance in people.

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Basically, what you do is go in and you're reporting

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-on how good or bad their service is?

-Yes.

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-And you're getting paid for that?

-Yes.

-I'll tell you a true story,

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I worked for a company back in the '90s, and we got mystery shopped

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regularly. And if we didn't come up to the mark,

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we were fined by our boss.

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Admittedly, if we passed the mark, he used to give us a bonus, as well.

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But it used to drive us mad.

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I think it's safeguarded these days, because the reports are very,

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very detailed and we actually record the whole conversation.

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So I go in with a covert recording device hidden about my person.

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It's very James Bond, isn't it? SHE LAUGHS

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It is. It's very covert.

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Do you ever feel guilty?

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100% no.

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I actually admire your honesty,

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because although it might be a bit of a sneaky job,

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you're actually helping to improve the retail environment.

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There's probably an awful lot of people right now,

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looking at this and thinking, "You know what, I'd love to do that job,

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"go around and get paid to mystery shop."

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How would they go about it?

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Just get on to the internet, have a look at the companies.

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Fill in a brief application form

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saying why you think you're going to be good at the job.

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They'll come back to you if they think you would be and

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they'll test you out and you end up with a star rating depending on the

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reports and submissions you make to them.

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I'm going to be really rude now, Janet.

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I'm going to ask you how much you make by doing this?

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It depends how many assignments you're willing to take on

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in terms of your spare time.

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You could work every day and you could take home £1,000 a month.

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Or you could work once a month

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on one assignment and earn £100 a month.

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OK. It sounds to me like you are making a lot more money than

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Richard's video did. She's got it right, hasn't she, Richard?

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-She has. Sounds good.

-I think you've definitely got it wrong.

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Here's a question for our Denise - would I make a good mystery shopper?

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Ooh, I'm not going to answer that, Dom.

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Of course, the whole point of this programme

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is to help save you lots of money,

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but how far would you go when it comes to scrimping?

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Time to confess if you are one of the growing number of people who are

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re-gifting those unwanted Christmas presents.

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I'm not very organised myself, so I'm always re-gifting presents.

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Re-gifting, I've done that a few times.

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Nothing outrageously expensive, or anything like that,

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it was just maybe, like, toiletries which you're not that keen on.

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Vouchers. All the time.

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Just give them straight to the next person on, because, you know,

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most of them, you don't get the ones that you want, anyway.

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So, yeah, vouchers, big time.

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Like a T-shirt.

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I'll give it to my cousin, you know, as a present...

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..who's not into fashion! He'll just wear it, you know,

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but he'll be very grateful.

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It was a box of chocolates, so I gave it to someone else.

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I don't want it.

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I think I might have done it a couple of times over the years.

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Really, you shouldn't, but if you don't like it, you don't like it.

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We're humans at the end of the day.

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There's things we're going to like and things we're not going to like.

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Some of the kids' presents at Christmas we re-use for

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other kids' birthday parties, don't we?

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I think it's OK as long as you haven't used it

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and it is still brand-new.

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Why not?

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But is re-gifting for everyone?

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Joining me in one of the biggest shopping centres in Leeds

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is retail expert Claire Rayner.

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Now, Claire, have you ever re-gifted?

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Because I know I do a little bit.

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-Are you guilty?

-I have been known to.

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I consider it a form of recycling.

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-What types of things to you re-gift?

-All sorts of things.

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It might be duplicates of things I already have,

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or things that the kids have already got.

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So it's a good way to make sure the gift becomes usable, I think.

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The shopping experience is about to change in the future.

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-Just tell me a little bit about that.

-I think it could be really exciting.

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The technology we see coming through from the gaming industry,

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for instance, can percolate down into the retail environment.

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And I imagine the experience of walking into a fashion store

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with your mobile phone in your hand, or your digital, interactive watch,

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and that store starts to recognise your presence,

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send you personalised offers, recommend items.

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You pick up a few things,

0:25:160:25:17

you go into the fitting room and mirrors can interact with you,

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telling you you look great.

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Or perhaps you need a longer or shorter skirt length,

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whatever it might be to help you make the right choices.

0:25:240:25:28

But you might want to take your products home,

0:25:280:25:29

so imagine you can just drop them off in a secure locker

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and a drone might deliver them to your house later.

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Or they might come with a courier to your office.

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I think that's the sort of experience we can imagine

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and anything that's possible with technology these days

0:25:390:25:42

could be built into the future of retail.

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I mean, it sounds just inconceivable,

0:25:450:25:46

but you're saying this is really going to happen?

0:25:460:25:49

I think so, because a lot of the technology already exists,

0:25:490:25:51

and retailers really have to do something

0:25:510:25:53

to engage with shoppers to take them away from sitting on a sofa

0:25:530:25:56

and doing all their shopping online.

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And how will this affect supermarkets?

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Is that going to be any different?

0:26:000:26:01

Yeah. Supermarkets are really under pressure at the moment. We've seen a lot of change already.

0:26:010:26:05

That's being pushed by the way consumers are changing their shopping habits.

0:26:050:26:08

So click and collect, for your online shopping -

0:26:080:26:10

you go to the supermarket, the bags are loaded into your boot.

0:26:100:26:13

Drive-through supermarkets are popping up.

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And I can imagine a lot more of that will come about.

0:26:150:26:18

What's this I've heard about facial recognition coming into play?

0:26:180:26:21

Oh, yes. Again, it's something from the gaming industry

0:26:210:26:24

that's becoming a feature of retail.

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There are trials being run

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whereby you can actually pay from facial recognition.

0:26:280:26:31

The system will know who you are through your image,

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so, ultimately, we could pay by selfie,

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we could just smile at a camera and it will know who we are

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and take our payment, again, seamlessly,

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from bank accounts or credit cards linked to our face.

0:26:400:26:43

-No face lifts then?

-No!

0:26:430:26:46

So is there anything we can do to avoid overspending?

0:26:460:26:49

Yes, and I can imagine, in the future,

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with such a cashless and seamless way of paying for

0:26:510:26:53

things using mobile phones,

0:26:530:26:55

it's going to be essential that some of us put a bit of a halt

0:26:550:26:58

on going a bit too mad with that.

0:26:580:26:59

And I think what we'll see is apps coming out

0:26:590:27:01

to help us with our budgeting, to help us control our spending.

0:27:010:27:04

Pinging alerts to us to let you know, "You've spent £50 today,

0:27:040:27:07

"your budget's 60, slow down, you've only got £10 left."

0:27:070:27:10

And other such things like that.

0:27:100:27:12

It sounds like there are some big changes ahead.

0:27:120:27:15

So what do shoppers here reckon to all that?

0:27:150:27:17

What do you think to the fact

0:27:190:27:20

that you might be able to pay for your products with your face,

0:27:200:27:24

-ie like a selfie?

-With my face?

0:27:240:27:26

I don't think I would like that.

0:27:270:27:30

I wouldn't, no.

0:27:300:27:31

I've never thought about that.

0:27:310:27:33

That's a good idea, I suppose.

0:27:330:27:35

No-one else would have a face like this!

0:27:350:27:37

Do you do any shopping online?

0:27:370:27:38

-No.

-Not at all?

0:27:380:27:40

I'd rather deal with cash.

0:27:400:27:42

-You deal with cash. You're a bit of a traditionalist?

-Yes, I am.

0:27:420:27:45

Do you ever shop online?

0:27:450:27:46

I do sometimes, yes. Not very often.

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Because I usually send things back, because they don't fit.

0:27:480:27:51

I like to see and feel what I'm buying,

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as opposed to just pressing a button.

0:27:530:27:55

I don't like it. I prefer to come and do it

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and go home and have a nice day. I wouldn't do the computer stuff.

0:27:570:28:01

-No, I don't.

-Not at all?

0:28:010:28:02

Not at all, no. Far too old for that.

0:28:020:28:04

What is it about shopping online, is it easier, is it quicker?

0:28:060:28:09

Convenient. Just convenient.

0:28:090:28:11

Paula can do it from her desk at work!

0:28:110:28:14

Ah... So when you're supposed to be working...

0:28:140:28:16

You heard what she's doing.

0:28:160:28:17

Do you like shopping?

0:28:170:28:19

-I do, yes.

-Yeah, you do?

-I do.

0:28:190:28:20

-Do you shop online at all?

-I do.

-You do.

0:28:200:28:22

I don't even know how to switch it on!

0:28:220:28:25

It seems as though people are shopping online,

0:28:260:28:28

but those I've spoken to today still prefer to make their purchases

0:28:280:28:32

in places like this.

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Who can blame them?

0:28:330:28:35

Now, earlier on, we met busy paramedic Angela,

0:28:350:28:37

who was desperate for help tackling her finances.

0:28:370:28:40

Let's see how she's getting on.

0:28:400:28:42

Yorkshire mum Angela, like a lot of us,

0:28:440:28:47

has always struggled to work out where to start with her finances.

0:28:470:28:52

I don't have time to sort my finances

0:28:520:28:54

and, truthfully, I don't understand them.

0:28:540:28:56

I don't understand percentages and payments.

0:28:560:29:00

I don't tend to look to the future massively,

0:29:000:29:03

which isn't always a good thing.

0:29:030:29:05

Angela is working hard to make a better life for her

0:29:070:29:10

and 15-year-old son Toby,

0:29:100:29:12

but, as a result, she misses out on quality time at home.

0:29:120:29:15

If I want more money, I do overtime.

0:29:150:29:18

That's how I cover the costs of things.

0:29:180:29:20

I can do anything from one to four shifts a month.

0:29:200:29:23

Angela currently clocks up about 48 hours of overtime a month

0:29:240:29:28

to foot the family bills.

0:29:280:29:30

This Yorkshire lass was desperate for help,

0:29:300:29:33

so we sent in personal finance expert Simon Read

0:29:330:29:36

to find a way to help Angela work less by saving her more cash.

0:29:360:29:41

-Am I going to be rich at this rate?

-Let's hope so.

0:29:410:29:43

So far, he's found ways that she could save £3,456

0:29:450:29:49

just by cutting down on her massive food bills,

0:29:490:29:53

switching her energy provider and changing her bank account.

0:29:530:29:56

Sounds really good, actually.

0:29:560:29:58

What Angela craves most is time with her family and friends.

0:30:000:30:04

Today, her mum Rosemary and pal Caroline

0:30:070:30:10

have popped over for lunch and a chinwag. A rare occurrence.

0:30:100:30:14

It's not very often you get the chance to have this valuable time

0:30:150:30:18

together with friends and family, is it?

0:30:180:30:20

No, not at all.

0:30:200:30:22

Toby and I very rarely eat together,

0:30:220:30:24

purely because of my shifts.

0:30:240:30:26

Don't you miss your mum not being here all the time for you?

0:30:260:30:28

I used to when I was little, but now I would sort of like...

0:30:290:30:33

It's just second nature to me really, you know.

0:30:340:30:38

Just my mum being out, long shifts working, it's just normal.

0:30:380:30:41

It's just become established?

0:30:410:30:43

Like a lot of working parents,

0:30:440:30:46

Angela relies on the help of her mum.

0:30:460:30:49

She never once says, "Well I can't, I'm busy."

0:30:490:30:51

I've never heard that, never.

0:30:510:30:53

-Never.

-Do you think she could do it without your help?

0:30:530:30:56

Without me, I don't think she really...

0:30:560:31:00

You know, maybe we can help change that

0:31:000:31:01

so she could be at home a bit more for you.

0:31:010:31:03

-That would be nice, wouldn't it?

-Yeah.

0:31:030:31:05

It would be nice for everyone, wouldn't it?

0:31:050:31:07

Yeah, definitely.

0:31:070:31:08

-It'd be quite nice to be home a bit more for you, wouldn't it?

-Yeah.

0:31:080:31:11

I think that would be nice, even though he hides away from me.

0:31:110:31:14

SIMON LAUGHS

0:31:140:31:16

Simon has found a way for Angela's job to boost her piggy bank

0:31:160:31:20

without putting in any extra hours.

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It's all down to an NHS employee discount scheme

0:31:230:31:26

that's been under her nose all this time.

0:31:260:31:29

Angela's job gives her lots of money off all sorts of shops,

0:31:290:31:33

restaurants and even holidays.

0:31:330:31:36

So you know about this money you can save,

0:31:360:31:38

but you don't use it very often?

0:31:380:31:40

-No.

-Why not?

0:31:400:31:42

Is it simply because you don't know how to find out

0:31:420:31:45

where these savings are, where these discounts and deals are?

0:31:450:31:49

I do, yeah.

0:31:490:31:50

But I don't know how to apply it.

0:31:500:31:53

A number of businesses and organisations run similar schemes,

0:31:550:31:59

giving staff access to discounts and offers.

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So check if you've got one, too.

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With just one click on the NHS website, Simon's found

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that he can bring down the cost of Angela's boiler breakdown cover.

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You can get this great package, which seems to be exactly the same

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as the one you've already got,

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except for this one, you get a tenner off.

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So that means you save another £120 a year.

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Just by the things that are already available to you

0:32:220:32:24

that you haven't taken advantage of.

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It's absolutely fantastic, what you've found for me.

0:32:250:32:28

I'm going to be saving quite a bit by the looks of it.

0:32:280:32:30

-Thank you.

-I mean, you just need to buck your ideas up and see what's

0:32:300:32:33

around you and make the most of it.

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Another £120 a year back in the coffers.

0:32:360:32:40

Great work, Simon.

0:32:400:32:42

But it's not just money that Angela is after.

0:32:450:32:47

There is another reason why she needs to get her finances in order.

0:32:470:32:51

She may be fit and healthy now, but 11 years ago,

0:32:510:32:54

it was a very different story.

0:32:540:32:56

I just got a sudden pain in my head.

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But it was like no other pain that I can describe.

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Totally out of nowhere?

0:33:050:33:07

Just out of nowhere.

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I just kept saying, "My head hurts, my head hurts."

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And I was projectile vomiting, hallucinating.

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Then I was diagnosed with a brain haemorrhage.

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One of the consequences of Angela's illness

0:33:190:33:21

is that she's been unable to get any life insurance cover.

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It's something that has haunted her ever since,

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especially with a young son to think about.

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I want to be able to leave him something to set him up a good life, should anything happen to me.

0:33:320:33:36

I have gone through maybe five or six companies, and I've had the same result from everybody.

0:33:360:33:40

-And what do they say?

-I'm just a high risk, they won't cover me.

0:33:400:33:43

Simon has arranged for Angela and Toby

0:33:450:33:47

to spend some quality time together while he sees if he can find her

0:33:470:33:51

the life insurance cover she needs.

0:33:510:33:53

I'll see you when you come down.

0:33:530:33:55

-Hopefully, we'll have some good news.

-Thank you.

0:33:550:33:57

There are lots of factors that affect the cost of life insurance -

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age, health, what your job is and if you smoke.

0:34:030:34:07

Come on.

0:34:070:34:08

Because of Angela's brain haemorrhage,

0:34:090:34:11

she's in the high-risk category, so Simon's got his work cut out

0:34:110:34:15

getting an insurance company to even consider her.

0:34:150:34:18

Let's see how he's got on.

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I searched online and you're absolutely right,

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most life insurers just say no. They're just not interested.

0:34:250:34:29

So I went to an online broker and I put in your details there.

0:34:290:34:33

I then had a chat with them and I've got some good news.

0:34:330:34:36

Two firms they spoke to said they would cover you.

0:34:360:34:40

Brilliant.

0:34:400:34:41

Great news.

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But with her medical history, will the premiums be too high?

0:34:420:34:46

The standard policy for you, for £100,000 cover,

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would only be about £15 a month, IF you had no medical history.

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Given your history, that would make it between £30 and £45 a month.

0:34:530:34:57

Now, with all the money we've saved you from your food

0:34:570:35:00

and the other things, I think this is really affordable.

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What do you think?

0:35:030:35:04

I think that's brilliant. It's excellent, yeah.

0:35:040:35:07

Thank you.

0:35:070:35:08

Although Simon's aim has always been to save Angela money,

0:35:100:35:14

this time he's also bought her peace of mind, and that's priceless.

0:35:140:35:19

But Simon's work isn't done just yet.

0:35:190:35:22

For his final savings push

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he's tackling her biggest financial commitment -

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the mortgage.

0:35:270:35:28

Like 98% of us,

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Angela hasn't bothered to negotiate a better deal with her lender,

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or look for one elsewhere.

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Part of the problem is you're quite comfortable at the moment.

0:35:370:35:39

You think, "Why change things?"

0:35:390:35:41

I've been with the same people now for over four years.

0:35:410:35:44

And would you be happy about making the change, changing your lender?

0:35:440:35:47

Definitely. If it saves me money, yeah.

0:35:470:35:49

Angela is currently forking out £446 a month

0:35:510:35:54

to pay off her mortgage over the next 26 years.

0:35:540:35:58

Simon has arranged a meeting with mortgage expert Paul

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to see if there's a better deal out there.

0:36:030:36:05

You pay about 450 a month at the moment.

0:36:050:36:09

We can drop those payments down potentially to anywhere around 375.

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£375 a month.

0:36:150:36:17

OK.

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Straight away, Angela could save £75 off her mortgage

0:36:200:36:23

by switching to a different lender.

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But even better, if she was to pay off her mortgage a few years sooner,

0:36:260:36:30

her savings could be staggering.

0:36:300:36:33

If I'm being sensible, and if I'm looking to the future, then I know

0:36:330:36:37

that I need to decrease the length of time I have the mortgage.

0:36:370:36:41

So if we drop the term down even further to 20 years,

0:36:410:36:44

the payments are about £430.

0:36:440:36:46

So a little saving on what you're paying now, but you've shaved...

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-Six years off.

-Yeah, over five years.

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So that's incredible, you'd save five years of repayments.

0:36:520:36:55

That's five years of extra interest,

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and you're still cheaper than what you're paying right now.

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By switching to this new deal,

0:37:020:37:04

Angela could be mortgage-free nearly six years earlier than she thought,

0:37:040:37:09

and the savings on those repayments and interest would be a staggering

0:37:090:37:12

£31,000.

0:37:120:37:15

Yes, you heard it right, 31 grand.

0:37:150:37:18

Simon's money-saving marathon couldn't have ended better,

0:37:180:37:22

but it's made Angela wish she'd looked into all this sooner.

0:37:220:37:25

It makes me think that I've wasted so much money.

0:37:250:37:28

In fact, I have. It's not...

0:37:280:37:30

I have, definitely, haven't I?

0:37:300:37:32

Well, it's never too late to put that right, Angela.

0:37:320:37:35

Lovely to have you here.

0:37:350:37:37

-All the best, good luck.

-Take care. Bye.

0:37:370:37:40

Let's tot up just how much of a difference all of this

0:37:420:37:44

could make to her finances.

0:37:440:37:47

By switching her energy provider, Angela could save £306.

0:37:470:37:52

And by signing up with a different bank,

0:37:520:37:54

she'll have another £150 in the coffers.

0:37:540:37:58

Add £120 saving on that boiler protection scheme

0:37:580:38:02

and the £3,000 she could save by planning her shopping better.

0:38:020:38:05

But the biggest and most amazing saving of all,

0:38:050:38:10

£31,000 on the mortgage.

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That's a grand total of £34,576.

0:38:120:38:17

Come on, Angela. Put your feet up. You deserve it.

0:38:170:38:21

It's going to be quite a life-changing experience.

0:38:210:38:24

I'd say the best bit is what I've learned about my mortgage.

0:38:240:38:27

That is a massive relief.

0:38:270:38:29

So we saved quite a bit, haven't we, son?

0:38:290:38:31

Aye, you can buy us a new car.

0:38:310:38:32

Angela, nearly six years off your mortgage.

0:38:410:38:44

I mean, what difference has that made to you?

0:38:440:38:47

Quite a lot actually.

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It's given me the ability to retire earlier, if I want to.

0:38:490:38:52

That's been quite a worry that I've had for some time.

0:38:540:38:56

It would take me well over 70.

0:38:560:38:58

So, now, I've got the option to retire at 65 if I want to.

0:38:580:39:02

-That's brilliant.

-I think a lot of people watching will be

0:39:020:39:05

in a similar situation to you. Very hard-working, perhaps didn't have

0:39:050:39:08

the time to update their finances and look at them.

0:39:080:39:11

I think you'll be an inspiration.

0:39:110:39:12

People will think, if Angela can knock six years off her mortgage,

0:39:120:39:15

I could probably do the same.

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I think there's a possibility for anybody to do it.

0:39:160:39:18

You've just got to not do what I do

0:39:180:39:20

-and sit back and just accept what's given to you.

-Yeah.

0:39:200:39:23

Start researching and finding out

0:39:230:39:25

that there are better things there for you.

0:39:250:39:27

You've actually gone above what we actually recommended to you?

0:39:270:39:31

I have, yeah. Recently, I had a renewal for car insurance.

0:39:310:39:34

What I would normally do is just say, OK,

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is there anyway of getting this down a bit?

0:39:360:39:39

And they say, maybe, £10 or £20.

0:39:390:39:41

So I decided to put some time aside, sat and researched it,

0:39:410:39:44

and actually saved myself about £160.

0:39:440:39:47

It sounds to me like you are really taking ownership of things

0:39:470:39:50

and you've got a renewed confidence and spirit about you.

0:39:500:39:53

Yeah, there is, definitely.

0:39:530:39:54

I do feel like I'm more in control of my finances.

0:39:540:39:56

I feel like I'm confident enough to go out and say,

0:39:560:39:59

"That seems a little bit too much so, maybe, it is a little bit too much."

0:39:590:40:03

Angie, you were spending more on food than London Zoo was

0:40:030:40:05

on feeding the animals! Has that changed?

0:40:050:40:08

Yes, it has.

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Since we started doing this,

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I've started breaking my shopping down and maybe going twice a week.

0:40:110:40:14

I don't think I've thrown anything away since my original...

0:40:150:40:19

-Less waste?

-Yeah.

0:40:190:40:20

How much do you think you're managing to save?

0:40:200:40:23

I don't buy the things I bought before.

0:40:230:40:25

Rather than prepacked, I'm getting...

0:40:250:40:27

I've always got fresh stuff but rather than prepacked,

0:40:270:40:29

now I'm buying it separate.

0:40:290:40:31

I'm taking it out of the bags, I'm storing it correctly.

0:40:310:40:33

I'm prepping big bowls of salad.

0:40:330:40:35

I'm getting meat in bulk and chopping it down and bagging it up.

0:40:350:40:40

So I think I must have saved £150 on food, easy.

0:40:400:40:43

-A month?

-That's great. That's really good.

-Yeah.

0:40:430:40:46

Now, Angie, you're not to be happy with me,

0:40:460:40:47

because a little birdie told me that you thought you'd get

0:40:470:40:50

a water meter installed to save on your bills.

0:40:500:40:53

But when you went outside, you already had one!

0:40:530:40:55

-I did, yeah.

-You didn't know whether you was coming or going, did you?

0:40:550:40:58

-At that point?

-No. But that just shows you that I wasn't really

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in control of everything, doesn't it?

0:41:010:41:03

It shows that I was just accepting things as they are.

0:41:030:41:05

I just glided along and let things happen.

0:41:050:41:07

As long as it was paid and I was managing it, I was happy with it.

0:41:070:41:12

But not any more, not any more.

0:41:120:41:14

-You're a lot happier now, aren't you?

-Yeah.

0:41:140:41:15

Your son Toby's a good lad, isn't he? You're very proud, aren't you?

0:41:150:41:18

-Very.

-I can tell that. Has he seen a big change in you?

0:41:180:41:22

I think so, yeah. Because I'm a little bit more content

0:41:220:41:24

with my finances and I have made some savings,

0:41:240:41:27

there isn't the urgency to go out and work so much

0:41:270:41:30

to bring more money in. So I'm feeling a bit more relaxed

0:41:300:41:32

and I've stayed home little bit more than normal.

0:41:320:41:35

So, I'm around more for him.

0:41:350:41:37

It sounds like you've really changed your life.

0:41:370:41:39

Moving forward, do you think you can stick to the advice

0:41:390:41:41

-that Simon has given you?

-Definitely. Definitely.

0:41:410:41:44

This sounds like it was the wake-up call you needed.

0:41:440:41:46

It was the kick up the backside I needed.

0:41:460:41:48

-That's putting it politely!

-Yeah.

0:41:480:41:50

It's been good, it's changed a lot of things at home for me.

0:41:500:41:54

Thanks for coming on the programme, and send our regards to Toby.

0:41:540:41:57

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0:41:570:42:00

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0:42:000:42:01

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0:42:050:42:08

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0:42:380:42:40

Andy Webb's back with us and we've got some questions for him

0:42:440:42:46

from the good people of Leeds we've met today.

0:42:460:42:48

Kim would like to open a savings account for her child

0:42:480:42:51

and wants to know what are her best options?

0:42:510:42:53

This is a great way to get your kids involved with money and thinking about saving, and, hopefully,

0:42:530:42:58

get that habit in place for when they get older.

0:42:580:43:00

There's a few options.

0:43:000:43:01

So, a Junior ISA,

0:43:010:43:02

that's going to be locked until they're 18.

0:43:020:43:04

When they turn 18, they're going to get all that cash

0:43:040:43:07

but that's a good way of building up some money.

0:43:070:43:09

If they want access to it, you think you'll teach them to save

0:43:090:43:12

up for this toy or whatever and they put money in and want to get it out,

0:43:120:43:15

look for something with more access.

0:43:150:43:17

You want to get the best interest rate you can, so hunt around for that.

0:43:170:43:20

You can also - this is a bit more out there -

0:43:200:43:22

but you can even start a pension for your kid.

0:43:220:43:24

Obviously, they're not going to get it until they're retired but think about how long,

0:43:240:43:28

if they're five now, they get it when they're 65, that's 60 years that money is going to be growing.

0:43:280:43:33

A bit different, but could be an option.

0:43:330:43:34

Now, Joanna asks, when taking out life insurance,

0:43:340:43:38

she says it's much more expensive if she adds a critical illness cover

0:43:380:43:42

and wants to know, does she really need it?

0:43:420:43:44

Critical illness cover, you'll get a lump sum pay-out if you, maybe,

0:43:440:43:47

can't work because of an illness, such as some kinds of cancer,

0:43:470:43:51

or maybe having a stroke, stops you earning money.

0:43:510:43:54

This isn't going to be for everyone, but say you're the sole breadwinner,

0:43:540:43:57

you don't have any savings to back you up,

0:43:570:43:59

it's worth thinking about, what would you do in that situation?

0:43:590:44:02

But everyone's got a different set of circumstances,

0:44:020:44:05

so this is somewhere I'd recommend talking to a financial adviser and

0:44:050:44:08

getting something that works for you and your family.

0:44:080:44:10

Thanks, Andy. That's it from us today.

0:44:100:44:12

Thanks to all our guests and to you for watching us.

0:44:120:44:15

We'll be back soon with more money-saving tips,

0:44:150:44:17

-so, until then, cheerio.

-Bye-bye.

0:44:170:44:19

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