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Whether you're a spender or a saver, | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
we could all do with making the most of our cash. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
So we found simple advice for you to do just that, | 0:00:07 | 0:00:12 | |
and taken it to people right across the UK. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
Whatever help you need with your finances, we are Right On The Money. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
Morning and welcome to Right On The Money. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
The show that sets out to boost your piggy bank by making a few simple changes. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
And today's show is packed with lots of easy-to-understand tips | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
that could transform your finances. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
Here's what's coming up. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
We try and help a family desperate to extend their home. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
But there's a problem - | 0:00:40 | 0:00:41 | |
the mountain of money they're spending on takeaways. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
You probably only family I know that actually have a burger mortgage. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
That's crazy. I didn't realise it was that much. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
And the new craze that's fuelling a nation of night-time spending. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
Welcome to the world of the vampire shopper. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
When I start shopping at night, I am quite vulnerable | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
to just start clicking and just think | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
"Oh, I'll buy that. That'll do." | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
Seven, eight black skirts. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
I'm quite ashamed now. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:08 | |
Now lots of people we meet want to save enough money to pay for something, | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
like a wedding or a special family holiday. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
But today we meet a couple | 0:01:17 | 0:01:18 | |
whose priority is to make someone else's life easier. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
Paul and Kim Welsh live in Leicestershire | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
with their four children. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:27 | |
I would describe Paul as the funny man. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
Always got a cheesy smile. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:34 | |
And the kids have all got his smile. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
Well, what can I say about Kim? | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
She's beautiful. She's nice, she's kind-hearted. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
I don't think... She moans a lot. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
But, I love her. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:46 | |
Oh, I love you too. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
But both Paul and Kim also have extremely busy lives. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
He delivers takeaways and she manages the local convenience store. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
We do work hard. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:57 | |
We both work full-time, we both do six days a week. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
Don't get to spend as much time as I want with the kids | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
but we have bills to pay and mortgages to pay. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
Let's see who can get the highest? | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
And, as if that wasn't enough, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
their hectic household could soon be getting even busier. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
Kim's younger brother, who has a rare macular degeneration syndrome, | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
might have to move in. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:19 | |
Alex is my 21-year-old brother, who's going blind. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
At any point now, he could lost his sight. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
Currently lives with my mum and Alex will need looking after. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
Kim and Paul's dream is to extend their house so Alex can move in too. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:34 | |
What's very important for me is if and when I do lose my sight, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
then I know I've got somewhere to live. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
And if I need anyone, I know someone's there. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
So if we managed to save some money, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
the first thing is the extension, isn't it? | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
Yeah, definitely. We want to sort the extension out | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
and then we want to make the best of our house. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
So, that sounds like a plan. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:56 | |
A nice bit of home improvement | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
to make the house bigger and better for all. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
But there's a problem. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:02 | |
Money. Well, to be more accurate, how Kim and Paul spend it. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
You're quite a big spender, so if I go out it's small amounts. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
You could spend ?100 in one shot. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
Whereas mine is little bits of money. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
I look at my bank account once a month | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
and I'll tend to look back on what I spent for the month | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
and then I'll be a bit like, why did we do that? | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
Paul and Kim also like to nip off for the occasional mini-break which | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
means there's not a lot left in the bank at the end of the month. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
We go about once a month if we can. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
Just trying to spend some quality time with each other. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
Because we both work hard and we think we deserve it. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
When you work six days a week, you ain't got no time for each other. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
So it is important for us to spend that time. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
We've made it our mission to help Paul and Kim to save for their | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
extension, and still enjoy their life together. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
Can they make their money go further? | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
So finance expert Sarah Pennells has come to pay them a visit. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
Hello. Hi, I'm Sarah. I'm Paul. Nice to meet you. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
Would you like to come in? Thank you very much. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
Now, Paul and Kim, as you may have heard, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
I'm just absolutely fascinated by your finances | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
so I want you to tell me more. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
I do know that I spend a lot on convenience shops, um, takeaways, eating out. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:17 | |
If we was to add it up, it'd probably more than I thought. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
It's a lot more than what you thought. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
I tend to just hand the card over and spend. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
Probably look the bills afterwards. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
So what are you having? | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
I might have... | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
With a full-on family life | 0:04:32 | 0:04:33 | |
the Welshes sometimes fall back on the local takeaway. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
How can help you? Yes, please. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:38 | |
Can I have an Istanbul special please? | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
Of course, anything else you want? No, thank you. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
And delivery driver Paul has a very expensive hobby. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
Cars. They're his livelihood, but he owns four of them. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
Whereas I'm impulsive with my bank card in the shop, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
Paul's impulsive with cars. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
He gets an idea in his head that he needs a new car | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
and I say get rid of what we've got. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
That doesn't happen. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
He comes back with the new car and that's why we've ended up with four. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
There's loads for Sarah to crack on with and with that house extension her goal, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
she's keen to begin. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
Let's see if we can come up with a way | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
for you to still be able to do the things that you want to do | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
but build up a pot of money | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
so that you can build that annexe for your brother, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
that's obviously just really important to both of you. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
That would be great, wouldn't it? Yet, it would be good. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
That would satisfy everyone. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
No mystery about where we are here. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
No, this is one of our locals. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
Time for the money-saving menu and for starters she's got a quick hit. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
The huge amount of money this family spends on grub. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
Do you know how much you spend a week on going out and on takeaways? | 0:05:42 | 0:05:48 | |
I'd say, probably, | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
?60 to ?70, with drinks. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
Not even close, Paul. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
I think you'll be in for shock, guys. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
We've worked out that you spend | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
a grand total of ?433 a month. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
Oh, my gosh. That's what this represents. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
That's almost ?110 every week. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
Nearly double Paul's guess. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
I'm a lazy cook. So if Paul's busy working at the weekend | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
and I'm busy with the children, last-minute we'll be, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
"Let's grab something to eat, go home, and relax." | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
Do you know what this adds up to? | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
That's about ?5,200 a year. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
That is actually the same as you spend on your mortgage. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:34 | |
Oh, my God. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:36 | |
You are probably the only family I know who have a burger mortgage. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
That's crazy. I didn't realise it was that amount. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
That's a lot of money. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
But, hold your horses, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:46 | |
that five grand only covers dining out and takeaways. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
What about down at the supermarket? | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
Sarah's been totting that up as well. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
And that is the grand total... | 0:06:54 | 0:06:55 | |
..of ?4,164 over a year. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:02 | |
We actually spend less in the supermarket | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
than we do on meals for one day of the week? | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
Two days a week, one day. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
Wow. Between your takeaways, meals on the go, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
meals out and your supermarket shopping | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
they add up to nearly ten grand over a year. On food? | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
On food. That's just crazy, isn't it? | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
That's a lot of money. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
Crazy indeed. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
Kim and Paul are clearly shocked by their annual takeaway tab, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
but don't worry, Sarah's not just about pointing out the problems, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
she's also got the solutions. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
So I think the key is to actually work out a budget | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
of how much you want to spend when you're going out for meals, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
on takeaways, or things like that, and then stick to that budget. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
If necessary, take cash out at the beginning of the week and when the | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
money's gone, you stop spending it. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
Yeah, that sounds a good idea because when I use my card, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
it doesn't feel like I'm spending. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
I think it's a lot more painful to hand over a crisp note | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
than it is to wave a card around. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
It is, definitely. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
And Sarah's got one more money-saving morsel up her sleeve. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
When you're eating out, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
there are some mystery shopping sites that you can sign up for, | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
that would pay you for doing a review if you eat out. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
Oh, that would be good one, wouldn't it? | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
You're quite critical. Always. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
Websites are constantly advertising for volunteers | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
to complete detailed reports on a restaurant, hotel, or pub. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
So now you do still get to eat out but you get paid for doing it, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:34 | |
which sounds like a win-win to me. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
OK. You'll like that, won't you? | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
You'll soon develop a taste for saving money, I'll tell you. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
I see what you've done there, Penells. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
If Kim and Paul halve their takeaway spending | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
and shop savvy at the supermarket, they can save a pot of cash. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:51 | |
With the couple beginning to realise how a few changes can reap rewards, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
it's time to tackle Paul's expensive hobby. Cars. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
You've got a lot of cars, haven't you? | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
Four in all. Just a few, yeah. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
Paul had planned to strip this old motor for parts for his newer car, | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
but, two years on, it's still sitting in the drive | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
losing value with every day that goes by. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
Sarah thinks it's time to cut their losses. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
If you sell the car for scrap, you can probably get around 80 quid for. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:20 | |
That's a good start. Not a fortune, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
but it's 80 quid that's in your pocket. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
Rather than... That can start our saving pot, can't it? | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
Wise words, Kim. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:29 | |
And even with this one motor gone, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
tinkerer Paul won't be short of work to do. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
He's got another project on the go. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:35 | |
Bye, car. One down. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
Hello, ?80. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
With the first deposit in their savings pot, | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
it's time for Sarah to save some more money. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
She's noticed they spend a hefty amount on clothes. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
If I was to go rifling through your children's wardrobes, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
would I find a few things with the labels on, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
or a few things that they don't need, maybe already got? | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
Definitely. All our wardrobes. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
All of our wardrobes are full of stuff that we don't need. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
A-ha! Sounds a textbook case of impulse buying to me. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:08 | |
I'm the bargain hunter, | 0:10:08 | 0:10:09 | |
I look at the label and think, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
"Oh, that's supposed to be ?50-60 and it's on sale at ?20." | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
I think, "That will do for a holiday, or for summer." | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
Then buy it. Then Kim'll say, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
she ain't even wore it and now's she's grown out of it. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
What a waste. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
But Paul and Kim are not the only ones. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
Brits have a secret stash of unworn clothes | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
worth over 10 billion pounds tucked away in their wardrobes. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
If you put the 600 million unworn garments next to each other, | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
they would stretch 18,000 miles. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
That's equivalent of London to New York five times over. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
Those clothes may have looked like a bargain to you, Paul, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
but Sarah's not so sure. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:50 | |
It's only a bargain if you actually use it and if you can afford it. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
And if this sort of everyday money that you're spending | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
is stopping you from doing other things, | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
maybe it's not the brilliant bargain you think it is. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
It's not, and we know that. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
But we still do it. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:06 | |
So just how much cash are Paul and Kim spending | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
on all this clobber? | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
Well, in one month, you actually spent around ?390. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
And the average that you spend is about 347. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:20 | |
And that's about ?4,000 a year. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
That's quite a lot. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
That's a very lot. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
You think you're getting bargains. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
Forget the price tag, it's what's the use to you? | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
If it's ?20 of worth to you | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
and you know you're going to use it, that's maybe one thing. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
But if it's ?20 you can't afford | 0:11:38 | 0:11:39 | |
and it will sit at the back of the wardrobe gathering dust, | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
that's not really a bargain. Yeah. True. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
If Paul started sharing the clothes-buying duties with Kim, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
she would have a chance of moderating his impulse buying. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
Sarah reckons they could save around ?2,500 a year. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
Does that sound like a plan? That sounds good to me. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
Yeah, good idea. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:02 | |
Yes! | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
Join us again when Kim and Paul realise | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
how hard they going to have to work | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
to pay for that dream extension for brother Alex. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
Better get saving, Mr Welsh. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
Better get working double time. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
And we'll be chatting to Kim and Paul a little later on. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
Joining us now is the Financial Times money editor Claer Barrett | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
and professor of psychology Catriona Morrison. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
Claer, we'll start with you. Kim and Paul are also working very hard, | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
to look after their family. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:35 | |
They like to spend a lot of money on clothes | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
and half of that stuff ends up in a bag | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
in the bottom of the wardrobe with the labels on, not used. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:43 | |
I'll be honest, I'm guilty of that myself. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
Why do people do that? | 0:12:45 | 0:12:46 | |
Because we love shopping. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
It's the number one leisure activity in this country. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
Me, I love shopping. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:51 | |
It's gives us a buzz to find something special. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
If you think there's a discount and money off, | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
"Get in there! I've saved money." | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
No, you've just spent money | 0:12:57 | 0:12:58 | |
on something you've probably got at home in a drawer. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
So, Catriona, we've identified that that's what we do, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
it's comfort, it's habitual. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
How do we stop? | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
Planning is the major thing, I think. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
Planning and considering what we're spending | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
and what we actually need to spend. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:15 | |
The moment that you buy something, if you impulse buy, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
it feels great when you buy it | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
but you have to balance is that short-term | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
rush of satisfaction versus the long-term, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
"Do I really want it? Do I need it?" | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
Claer, we hear the term "money hacks". | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
What does that actually mean? | 0:13:32 | 0:13:33 | |
Well, it's an American term for, basically, a money-saving tip. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
Tip, hack, same difference. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
Do you want to hear my top ones? Tell me your best ones. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
Number one, set up a direct debit for your savings. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
It's really easy to do, payday, direct debit, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
money comes out you never notice it. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:47 | |
And that money is then in your savings account, growing away. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
If you wait until the end of month thinking that will have enough money | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
left for putting away, you'll never do it. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
Number two, do an audit of your house. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:56 | |
See what you've got that you're not using, | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
whether you could sell it online. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
You could really unlock some significant money. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
People will buy absolutely anything online. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
I had it tatty old book from the 1960s, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
which I thought was probably worthless. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
I'll look it up and see. It was worth ?8 and I managed to sell it. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
Something I was literally going to throw away | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
because I thought it was too poor quality to give to a charity shop. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
So one woman's trash is another woman's treasure. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
Can I speak to you about selling online? You may. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
Because, in our last series, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
one of our experts suggested that you could sell the little | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
cardboard rolls inside toilet rolls | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
and, if you collect them up, there are people who want them. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
People want them for crafts. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:34 | |
They might want them for hamsters or for their pet parrot to chew. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
That sort of thing. So I put it to the test. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
I saved up 100 toilet rolls. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
Did they sell? No. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
Don't laugh, don't mock me, because I've got two watchers, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
currently speaking, at the moment. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:51 | |
I've got a funny feeling that this is going to snowball. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
This time next year, I could be a toilet roll millionaire. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
That sounds like a lot of effort to me. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
And, Claer, there must be easier ways to make a tenner. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
Yes. There are lots of things you can sell on eBay. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
You might think this product is broken. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
I'm going to have to put it in the bin. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
But think of its value in terms of spare parts. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
Make sure it's the brand that is listed and words like "vintage", "retro", | 0:15:11 | 0:15:16 | |
they are magnets because they are the search terms that people look for. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
Think like a buyer, and then you'll be the best seller. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
Excellent advice, there, ladies. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
It seems more and more of us are becoming creatures of the night. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
But rather than being a nightmare for retailers, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
this particular breed of shopper is something of a dream. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
And much more likely to bleed their own credit cards dry. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
It's finally come to that point in the evening | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
when it's time to turn in. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
The milky drink is made, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
climb the wooden stairs to Bedfordshire | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
and drift off to sleep. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:51 | |
Well, that used to be the case. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:55 | |
But, for many of us, it's time to shop. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
The last few years has seen a boom | 0:16:01 | 0:16:02 | |
in what's known as the vampire economy. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
Karen from Manchester is one of a growing army of nocturnal shoppers. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
It's a time that she comes alive. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
I don't shop during the day, because I'm far too busy. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
I don't get time to relax, or even think about shopping, | 0:16:18 | 0:16:23 | |
until at least 8:00, 8:30 in the evening. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
But Karen is so committed, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
she can hardly keep up with her night-time orders. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
I love opening packages. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:33 | |
I think it's great. It's exciting to look and see what you've got. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
And remember, sometimes, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:38 | |
because a lot of times I've forgotten what I ordered. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
I actually ordered this on Saturday night. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
I think it was about 11 o'clock at night. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
And, with this particular retailer, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
if you order before midnight it comes the next day. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
Which, again, is part of the thrill. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
Let's have look! Let's have a look! | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
And that desire for instant gratification... | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
That's my bikini top. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:01 | |
..is exactly what's driving this after-dark shopping craze. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
And retailers are happy to oblige. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
Consumers want things, and they want them now. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
So, not only is it the impulse purchase | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
but it is the desire to actually get the consumer material tomorrow. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:17 | |
So we're seeing brands adapt to that. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
For Karen, her purchasing has gone through the roof. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
I do tend to go on a bit of a splurge. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
So I will look at a couple of retailers at a time. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
I'm swayed very easily by special offers, to be honest. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:36 | |
My husband actually says that I'm a salesman's dream. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
I'm very gullible. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
Sometimes I do rein her in a little bit | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
when I think she spends excessively and a lot of parcels arrive. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
Sometimes I think Karen can get carried away. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
I'm not comfortable with it. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
But Karen insists that her night-time shopping | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
is just part of winding down and relaxing. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
It's my time to sit down with my laptop, or my iPad,... | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
..have a flick through, see what's available, treat myself, in a way, | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
because I deserve it. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
And, like many who feed the vampire economy, | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
Karen is watching more than one screen at once. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
I would say that 90% of the time I am multitasking. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
I am shopping and watching the telly. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
When we shop as part of the vampire economy we very often multiscreen. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:33 | |
You very often see the television on in the room | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
and people will have their tablet, or laptop, and mobile phone. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:40 | |
And, of course, whilst we believe | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
that we've developed as human beings, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
we can't actually spread our attention equally | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
over all those devices. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
And that would impact | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
on the quality of our decision-making. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
And there's another thing. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:58 | |
I think, when I start shopping at night, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
I am possibly weary and I am probably, yes, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:06 | |
quite vulnerable to just start clicking and thinking, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
"I'll buy that, I'll buy that. That'll do." | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
Rather than looking into it in more depth. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
When we shop in the evening, our guard is actually down | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
and we may be asking different questions from our purchase. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
We might actually consider how something looks, | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
rather than how it performs, or whether we can afford it. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
And no prizes for guessing the end result. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
That's a nice black skirt. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
I bought that one evening. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
But, I think I've got six, seven, eight black skirts. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:41 | |
I'm quite ashamed now, actually. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
This is obviously why online shopping at night is so dangerous. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:49 | |
Don't worry, Karen. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
It's not all down to you. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
Businesses spend a lot of time and effort trying to persuade us | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
to part with our money after dark. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
Retailers are taking advantage of shopping behaviour | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
by leveraging data that they have on the consumers | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
and they are targeting with more relevant e-mails, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
with more relevant social media, even with mobile messaging, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
even when it's not traditionally a typical buying hour. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
And they're launching marketing campaigns | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
to coincide with top-rated evening telly. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
You've got more and more of the retailers | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
that are sending targeted, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
relevant information off of the heels of popular things | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
like Strictly Come Dancing or Bake Off. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
You're seeing a rise in kitchenware purchases after an episode. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:40 | |
I get bombarded all the time by different retailers, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
even if I've not shopped with them online. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
They get my e-mail address and then I'm targeted with enticements, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:52 | |
inducements to start shopping with them. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
Instant delivery, | 0:20:56 | 0:20:57 | |
loads of choice and special deals targeted directly at you | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
all add up to a shopping experience that's difficult to resist. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
And there's one more thing that makes suckers of vampire shoppers. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
A partner who might usually advise us might actually be asleep. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:13 | |
The children who we buy something for may not have an input. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
We may not have a friend, there, who I can ask, "Do I look big in this?" | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
And who can kind of give us this advice? | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
It's a very, very different way of making decisions. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
But, despite all this, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:29 | |
Karen is determined to continue hunting out those after-dark offers. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:34 | |
I have never tried not to be a vampire shopper | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
but I would never intend to stop, I don't want to stop. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
But, if you do want to avoid waking up to a hefty hole | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
in your bank balance, here's some advice. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
The one bit of advice that I would give to consumers | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
is not checking out. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:52 | |
You may well make your choice but then decide, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
I'm not going to check out until tomorrow morning. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
If you are habitually somebody who spends and overspends at that | 0:22:00 | 0:22:05 | |
particular time, perhaps consciously do something different. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
Go for a walk. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:10 | |
And if none of that works, | 0:22:11 | 0:22:12 | |
there's one foolproof way of curbing your night-time shopping. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
Close your tablets, switch off the lights and just go to sleep. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
Night-night. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:21 | |
And after all that spending in the dead of night, | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
maybe we should all think about how we can use the daylight hours | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
to make some extra cash. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:31 | |
That's exactly what Diane and Francesca do. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
I'm going to start with you, Francesca. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
A lot of people feel that they are only earning enough to cover the | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
bills in their regular job. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:41 | |
So tell me about your extra line of work. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
So, the extra jobs that I do from home is I do dog boarding, | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
where I take in dogs from people going on holiday, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
to earn extra cash. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:49 | |
So you get the beauty of looking after people's dogs | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
and you're getting paid for it? Yes. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:53 | |
I love it. It's a really good way of earning money, I think, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
because it's so much fun. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
And then there's things like blogging, so I have a blog, | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
From Pennies To Pounds. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
This month, I'm due to make about ?1,000 from that. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
On top of your extra job? | 0:23:04 | 0:23:05 | |
Gordon Bennett, it's a lot of money, isn't it? It is. Yes, it's good. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
Diane, what about you? Tell me about some of the things that you've done. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
Mystery dining. Online surveys. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
Can I be nosy and ask roughly what you're earning out of it, Diane? | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
Varies. Like last year might have been | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
just about ?1,500 in vouchers and cash. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
Let's look on the flip side of it. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
You're earning about 1,500 quid in vouchers and money | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
and everything else, but you're also eating out free. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
You're testing products which, most of the time, you get to keep. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
Yes. It's money for nothing, really, isn't it? | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
Why did you get into it and what difference has made to your life? | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
I got into it because I found myself in some debt, consumer debt. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
I realised that I really needed to make some extra money from home | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
in order to pay it off. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
So I started to have a look around at what I could find | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
and I found lots of blogs where people are making money | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
so I started my own blog. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
So, by blogging, writing about how to save money, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
you can actually earn money? | 0:23:58 | 0:23:59 | |
That's right. OK. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
So I paid off my debt last month, and it took about a year. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
Had it not been for all this extra income, you'd still be in debt? | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
Yes, I'd say so, yes. So it's paid dividends for you? | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
Definitely. Yes. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
A lot of people right now will be looking at this and thinking, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
"I want to do that, I want to look after dogs, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
"I want to go mystery dining." | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
Where do they go to get the information from? | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
What should they be careful of, as well? | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
Go online and, in a search engine, put in customer survey sites. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:29 | |
That'll bring up some sites, but be careful of scams. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
Research. Always do your research. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:34 | |
So what you're saying is that, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
get some reviews on the company that you're about to get the work from. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
There's some really great ideas there. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
Thanks for your time. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:44 | |
Good luck to you both. BOTH: Thank you. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:45 | |
Here at Halifax Market I think we would all agree that those are great | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
ideas for making a little extra cash, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
particularly as you never know when you might need it. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
Claer, I want to talk to you about savings, or the lack of them. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
Now reports suggest that half of working-class families and one third | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
of middle-class households would have to borrow money to pay for a | 0:25:03 | 0:25:08 | |
?500 bill. That's quite alarming. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
I do think it's alarming, but it doesn't surprise me, because, | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
if you look at what's happening in the economy in the UK at the moment, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
wages are not going up. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
They're stubbornly stuck. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
But the cost of living, inflation, is rising. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
We are feeling the pinch and it's harder to make regular savings. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:30 | |
Of course, then a big, unexpected bill comes around the corner | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
and lo and behold, you don't have enough money to deal with that. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
So your only alternative is to get into debt. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
Now, debt is plentiful but it's expensive, often. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
If you don't have a good credit rating then you'll really, | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
really be fleeced. What you need to do is look at the cost of that debt, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
whether it's a payday loan, whether it's an unauthorised overdraft, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
an authorised overdraft, which would be much cheaper, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
or even using a credit card to paper over the cracks. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
So long as you understand the cost and understand the repayments | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
then that's the knowledge that you need to make the decision. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
OK, Claer, let's go speak to the people in Halifax. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
Sure. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:06 | |
Would it surprise you to know that a lot of people in the UK don't have | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
more than ?100 in their savings? Wouldn't surprise me, no. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
Things just cost too much nowadays, don't they? | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
The cost of living, everything. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
It's hard to save. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
If a ?500 bill were to land on your doorstep today, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
would you be going into panic? Yes. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
Yes, definitely. Yeah. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
Do you ever look at the bank interest? | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
No. No brass in. All I think is, "Have I got it with me?" | 0:26:32 | 0:26:37 | |
He's got a few notes in there. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
So, how can you pay your bills if you haven't got a bank account? | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
Just get me brass and pay it. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
In the bank? You go in with cash to and pay over the counter? | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
Yeah, oh, yeah. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:49 | |
Does it surprise you to hear that the average household probably | 0:26:49 | 0:26:54 | |
doesn't even have ?100 savings? | 0:26:54 | 0:26:55 | |
I'd be one, I'd be in that category. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
I live every day at a time and if I've got money | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
at the end of the week, then we can have a treat. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
What would you do if you got an unexpected bill for, say, ?500? | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
Panic. Yeah. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
I always make sure I've got a few hundred quid, if I need it. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
If the telly breaks down or the washer breaks down. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
I've always got money there to cover that. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
What advice would you give to the younger generation, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
who want things now, and they want to buy things on credit? | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
You can't get through to them. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
You can't make them understand until it comes to them. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
Earlier on we met a couple from Leicestershire | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
who just couldn't seem to stop overspending, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
despite desperately trying to save up enough money | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
to care for a relative. Let's see how they got on. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
Paul and Kim Welsh have a dream - | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
to save enough money to build an extension to their house, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
and there's a good reason why they need it. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
Kim's brother has an eye disease and could lose his sight, | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
so being close to Kim and her family is something he really needs. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
Currently we've got a garage. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
We would knock the garage down | 0:28:06 | 0:28:07 | |
and we would build a self-contained house. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
So Uncle Alex would move in and be independent but then also have the | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
support of us if he needed. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
Money expert Sarah Pennells has already found ways to rein in their | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
spending by curbing their food and clothes shopping. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
You are probably the only family I know | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
who actually have a burger mortgage. That's crazy. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
Take cash out at the beginning of the week. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
And when the money's gone, you stop spending it. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
Spurred on by the ?7,300 savings Sarah's made them so far, | 0:28:33 | 0:28:38 | |
they've invited over builder Andrew Turner | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
to find out exactly how much the extension will cost. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
Looking at two bedrooms, kitchen, bathroom, | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
so my idea is two bedrooms at the back. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
Then you've got your hallway and kitchen and living room. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
Four metres by seven metres. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
So after a few measurements, what's the damage? | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
A rough estimate, you are between ?40-45,000. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:06 | |
OK. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:07 | |
That's a bit more than we was sort of expecting, wasn't it? | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
A bit, yeah. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
Hmmm. Food for thought. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:14 | |
Definitely. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
Better get saving, Mr Welsh. I'd better get working double-time. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
Now that Paul and Kim have a better idea of the | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
amount they need to raise, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
Sarah's back to help advise on how they can do it, | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
and joining her is mortgage broker David Hollingsworth. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
He starts off by reviewing their current mortgage payments, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
which have just increased. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
Presumably it's one of your biggest outgoings. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
How much are you paying there? | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
?430, I think, now. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
Last year when I was on my deal, it was more like ?330, ?340. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:50 | |
So it's nearly ?100. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:51 | |
That's a big jump. The reason that's happened is your original deal will | 0:29:51 | 0:29:56 | |
have come to an end, you've reverted onto the lender's | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
standard variable rate as they call it. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
What it means is a more expensive mortgage. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
So you really need to start shopping around. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
Paul and Kim have been caught out when their current deal expired | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
and are now paying over the odds for their mortgage. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
It's easy to ignore our mortgage once it's set up, but if you do, | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
you could be throwing money away on an expensive rate when there are | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
better options available. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
And David has just found a brand-new deal for Paul and Kim. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
So, all in all, then, how much do you think Kim and Paul could save, | 0:30:26 | 0:30:32 | |
if they were to switch today? | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
I think that could be taking your, annual outgoings, | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
of what is about ?5,000 a year at the moment, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
I think we could be shaving a good ?1,200 or more from that. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
That's a lot of money, isn't it? | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
Too right. By switching, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
Paul and Kim could be stashing away | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
?1,200 a year, making the extension a step closer. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
?100 a month for us is a lot. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
And if we put it in a separate pot, | 0:30:56 | 0:30:58 | |
and I can see at building up and we know what the end result is, then, | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
that will make a huge difference. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:02 | |
There's still some more that we can do. There's still some more savings, | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
but I think we're on the way now, aren't we? | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
Yeah, definitely. It's exciting. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:08 | |
Although Paul and Kim want to avoid borrowing more money on their | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
mortgage if they can help it, | 0:31:13 | 0:31:14 | |
Sarah has a great tip for them if they decide to borrow a little to | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
help finance the extension. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:19 | |
And it's all to do with making them | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
an attractive proposition to lenders. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
You said you were a bit worried about | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
your credit rating not being brilliant. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
It's not very high, maybe that's because | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
I've not done much with my credit | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
and then also with Paul, I've looked at Paul's | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
and you've not got any history, have you? | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
So it is one of these odd things in terms of, | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
if you haven't had credit cards, | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
if you've just lived on your savings and the money in the bank account, | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
oddly, David, you're not always | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
looked on in the best light by the lenders. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
Lenders are looking to get a feel for what you look like, | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
what your credit profile looks like and, if they can't see anything, | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
that gives them a bit of a problem, | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
so if you have credit cards that have been conducted well, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
that might help you a little bit. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
Top-dollar advice, David. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
And Kim and Paul owe you a debt of gratitude. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
Time for Sarah to take this couple on another leg of | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
her money-saving journey. She's worked out that Kim and Paul | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
are spending a small fortune each month on mini breaks. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
So, at the moment you do spend a fair bit on your weekends away. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
What would you spend? | 0:32:26 | 0:32:27 | |
Anything from about ?200 to probably about ?500, | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
and that's probably once a month. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
Wow, that's nice. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:33 | |
Let me get my bags. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:34 | |
And how do you choose where you end up? And how much you pay? | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
Just look on the internet, basically. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
Look for the best deal out there. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
In the past year, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:42 | |
this travel-mad couple racked up many miles on their short breaks, | 0:32:42 | 0:32:46 | |
which put a great big dent in their annual budget. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
So you said that you spend anything between ?200 and ?500 a month on | 0:32:49 | 0:32:56 | |
going away. Yeah. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
And that's between ?2,400 and ?6,000 a year. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:04 | |
Wow, that's a lot. That's like a family holiday. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
That is two family holidays. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:09 | |
Does it feel like it's that much? | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
You book in advance, and it's paid for. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
So you book it one month, say, | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
then you're spending the money the next month | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
when you actually go away, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:19 | |
so you're never actually adding up the whole cost of each break. OK. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
Managing your budget means making choices. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
Either cutting back or looking for cheaper alternatives. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
Sarah's keen for Kim and Paul to think of other options | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
when it comes to planning their me time. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
Something like this, this crazy golf, it's just ?4 for a session, | 0:33:37 | 0:33:42 | |
so it's really cheap, really good value. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
And there are loads of other things that you can do as well, | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
salsa dance classes, whatever takes your fancy. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
Kim's not got no rhythm, so... | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
Paul's got the rhythm. He can dance. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
I'm not a very good dancer. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:56 | |
Watch it, Paul! | 0:33:56 | 0:33:57 | |
Well, there you go, you can learn together. | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
You can learn a new skill. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
I think the three key things are, firstly, | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
to look for cheap or free things you can do on your doorstep. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
Secondly, if you are going to go away, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
go away once every other month if you can, rather than once a month, | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
and thirdly, look at the overall cost so that | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
then you know exactly what you're spending and what that means for | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
your spending the rest of the year. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
There is just one other tip, as well, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
which means that you can still go away, which is house-sitting. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
House-sitting? What's that about? | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
So, when someone goes away on holiday, you move in, | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
water their plants, look after the house, make sure it looks lived in, | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
but what you get is a really low cost or free, | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
depending where it is, break. Yeah, that does sound good. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
Be interesting, wouldn't it? | 0:34:43 | 0:34:44 | |
Definitely. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:45 | |
Wow. If they swapped hotel stays for house-sits and took advantage of | 0:34:46 | 0:34:51 | |
free opportunities on their doorstep, | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
they could save | 0:34:54 | 0:34:55 | |
4,800 smackers a year. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
With another big saving delivered, Sarah's visit is about to end. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:02 | |
But, before she goes, Pennells has one last bit of advice. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
We're talking about saving and how much we're going to help you to save | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
but there is one thing that I just want to talk to you about. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
It's actually not about saving money, it's about | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
spending a bit of money. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:17 | |
What?! Sarah wants to spend money? | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
This must be important! | 0:35:20 | 0:35:21 | |
I've noticed that you don't have home insurance | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
or life insurance, do you? | 0:35:24 | 0:35:25 | |
We don't, no. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
I've never thought about it. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:28 | |
I don't feel like I'm going anywhere, yet. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
I feel young still. You are young. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
We've got to be serious. We've got four children. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
We need to be prepared, if the worst was to happen. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
I suppose you never know what's round the corner, do you? | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
Unfortunately, you don't. Of course we all want to think that we're | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
going to live forever, certainly for a long time, | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
but you don't actually know what life's going to throw at you, | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
so you need to have plans in place so that, | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
if the worst were to happen, | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
Kim or you wasn't left with a mortgage | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
that you couldn't afford to pay... And a big massive debt. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
..once you have to look after children, | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
so I'd really recommend that you talk to your broker, | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
have a look at comparison sites and find life insurance | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
and the same with home insurance. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
Unfortunately, houses do get damaged by fire and floods, | 0:36:13 | 0:36:17 | |
nasty things happen. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
And, in the worst cases, | 0:36:19 | 0:36:20 | |
it could actually mean you would have to start from scratch. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
That is a sobering piece of advice which will set Paul and Kim up with | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
a more secure financial future, | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
particularly if they are going to be looking after brother Alex. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
A reputable comparison site or insurance broker is a good place to | 0:36:33 | 0:36:38 | |
start, where you will be able to see the cover and the price | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
that works best for you. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
It is something that we need to sort out ASAP, really. Yeah. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
Time for Sarah to go. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
From now on, Paul and Kim will be on their own, | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
but if they follow our advice they could save | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
a whopping ?4,800 a year on food, ?2,500 on clothes, | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
?1,200 on their mortgage and another ?4,800 on short breaks, | 0:36:59 | 0:37:05 | |
making a grand total of ?13,300. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:10 | |
That extension and a secure home for their kids' future is now | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
one big step closer. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
Well, meeting Sarah and the whole thing has shown us a way to start | 0:37:16 | 0:37:21 | |
focusing to save some money, basically. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
Like I've said to Kim plenty of times, | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
if we save hard, we can do things. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
It's all about saving. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
Yeah, I think it's made us realise that it's got to stop being a | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
far off dream. We don't know what's going to happen with Alex. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
We don't know how long he's got his eyesight for at the minute, | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
and the quicker that building's up, | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
the quicker we are all secure and happy and he's safe. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
Yeah, definitely. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:47 | |
And Kim and Paul are here along with personal finance expert | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
Claer Barrett. First off, you two, you both work very hard, | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
six days a week, both of you, | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
and so, no-one could begrudge you spending a little on yourselves. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:07 | |
And on the kids. And on takeaways. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
And on food. But there's a point where you have to say, "Whoa." | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
And I think this is it. Definitely. It's our wake-up call. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
We did work hard, so we thought it was OK to do what we were doing, | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
but probably not very practical. Think about the future. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
What's the biggest lesson you think you've learned? | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
It would have to be the burger mortgage. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
The amount we spend on takeaways, meals out, rubbish. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:33 | |
To see that in black and... Well, in burgers... | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
It was a real eye-opener for me. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
In the film, obviously we spoke about Kim and Paul's mortgage and | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
you obviously weren't on the best one out there for you at the moment. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
What would be your advice? | 0:38:44 | 0:38:45 | |
I know that you've been hunting around to find the best rates. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
That's step one. Very good. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
But, when you actually find the rate and you actually want to apply for | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
that deal, don't forget, it won't be an instant process. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
It could take as long as two or three months for you to get that | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
remortgage deal and, in the meantime, | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
get your finances in order. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:04 | |
There are really tough rules now about affordability. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
The lender has to be satisfied that the money they are lending you is | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
something that you're going to be able to afford to pay back, | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
so they will want to scrutinise your bank statements. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
They will want to see income and expenditure | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
being spent in a managed, even and orderly manner. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
They won't want to see any big spikes going up or down, | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
because that could mean, in the future you might not have enough | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
money left at the end of the month to pay back | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
the bigger loan that you want to take on. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
To be honest, Clare I find it a little bit confusing | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
and maybe contradictory that we talk about | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
make sure you use your cash, make sure you only | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
access what's in your pocket, | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
but here we are encouraging Paul to have a credit card. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:46 | |
Your problem is that you have what's known in the industry | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
as a thin credit file. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
Normally, being thin is a good thing but having a thin credit file is, | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
unfortunately, a bad thing because it means that there's not enough | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
information for the people who are giving credit to assess whether | 0:39:56 | 0:40:00 | |
you'd be a good risk or a bad risk, | 0:40:00 | 0:40:01 | |
so they have to err on the side of caution | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
and charge you a lot of money. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
So if you can get a credit card and borrow | 0:40:05 | 0:40:06 | |
a bit of money every month and | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
pay it back at the end of the month, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:09 | |
then you're showing them that you are a responsible borrower... | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
Now, you two love a bargain, don't you? | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
I do. Yes, you love a bargain. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
But bargains aren't always what they seem, are they? | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
Absolutely. That 70% off you see on a website, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
maybe when you're doing your vampire shopping in the middle of the night, | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
and, you think, "Ooh!" You focus on the discount. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:28 | |
Now, I know that Kim and Paul like to go and stay in hotels. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
When I go on online hotel booking sites I am shocked, frankly, | 0:40:31 | 0:40:35 | |
by the level of sales pressure that they put on you by saying, | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
"47 other people are looking at this room. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
"There are only three rooms left. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:41 | |
"You'd better book, you'd better book." | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
I find it really difficult to resist. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
Kim, that's the sort of thing I believe you probably get swayed by, | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
isn't it? That really clever marketing, | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
telling you how the rooms are going quickly and | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
how many people are looking at it. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:54 | |
Yes. Definitely. Sat at home on my own of an evening, Paul's at work | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
and I think, "Oh, that's great. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
"Quick, there's only one room left, I need to book it, | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
"I don't need to discuss it." But we've decided now that, | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
before I do anything or buy anything, and the same with Paul, | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
we'll have that conversation. We said in the film that | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
we need to communicate more about our spending habits. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
With all the good advice you've been given, | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
do you feel more confident about getting Alex in that extension? | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
Yeah. Yeah, definitely. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:18 | |
We have talked endlessly since filming. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
We've decided it's got to happen this year and we're putting plans in | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
place for it to happen, so watch this space. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
Well done, both of you. Keep up the good work. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:29 | |
And keep saving. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
It's all about saving. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:32 | |
And if you've got something you're saving up for and you'd like help | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
from one of our money-saving experts, e-mail us... | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
But if you are after some simple budgeting tips, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
here's a good place to start. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
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And Claer is still with us to answer some of your questions. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
Lauren wants to know, what's the best plan for saving for the future? | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
Is it a pension or is it property? | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
Well, actually, it's both. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
Lots of young people especially think they have to save up to get on | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
the property ladder and that they shouldn't worry about a pension, | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
they should defer that until they get older, put everything into the | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
plan for the house, but that's actually the wrong thing to do, | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
because it's the pension contributions that you make | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
when you're really young that have got the most time to grow | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
and compound away and become even more valuable when you're old, | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
so you definitely shouldn't put off starting a pension because you're | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
saving to get onto the property ladder, even if you can only | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
pay in a small amount, it will really reap the rewards over time. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
Danielle says, I've been with my bank for 15 years and I feel loyal | 0:42:53 | 0:42:58 | |
to them. Is it bad to stick with the same bank for so long? | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
Well, many people do. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:02 | |
In fact, one survey says that people are more likely to get divorced from | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
their partner than they are to split up with their bank, but, | 0:43:06 | 0:43:10 | |
like any relationship, it's all about give and take. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
What's your bank giving you? | 0:43:12 | 0:43:14 | |
Are they giving you a decent rate of interest? | 0:43:14 | 0:43:16 | |
What are they taking from you? | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 | |
Are they charging you a high fee, for example, for your overdraft? | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
These of all the things that you've got to look into if you are | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
considering changing your bank account. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:26 | |
Also, you might want to make some extra money. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:28 | |
Many accounts will offer you ?100 or more if you switch | 0:43:28 | 0:43:32 | |
within a certain time frame to them and others have got other deals, | 0:43:32 | 0:43:36 | |
like a great mobile banking app that can help you track your spending. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:40 | |
So these are all things to consider. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:41 | |
Thanks a lot, Claer, some great advice, there. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:43 | |
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