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Who's left you feeling ripped off | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
when it comes to travel and holidays? | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
You couldn't wait to tell us your holiday disasters. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
Don't understand how people can do this to other people. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
I wanted to cry then. More than enough. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
So, whether it's a deliberate rip-off, a simple mistake, | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
or a catch in the small print, | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
we'll find out why you're out of pocket | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
and what you can do about it. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
Keep asking the questions, you know, go to the top if you have to. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
We do get results. I mean, that's the interesting thing. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
Your stories. Your money. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
This is Rip Off Britain. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:36 | |
Hello and welcome to Rip Off Britain, | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
where we fight your corner | 0:00:41 | 0:00:42 | |
when you feel you've been let down or left out of pocket. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
All the situations we'll be investigating this time | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
are to do with holidays or travel, | 0:00:48 | 0:00:49 | |
whether that's to somewhere sunny abroad like this, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
or back home in the UK. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:54 | |
And today we're going to be tackling something that we know | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
from all your letters and e-mails makes you absolutely furious. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:01 | |
And that's those unexpected costs | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
and extra charges that come to light only after you've already | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
signed on the dotted line and handed over your cash. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
By which time, of course, you're told you have no choice, | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
you just have to pay up. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:14 | |
Now those extra costs can make all the difference | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
when you've tightly budgeted for the cost of a trip. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
And although in some of the cases we'll be hearing about it's the | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
principle of having to pay more that makes you really, really angry, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
in others, as you'll see, the consequences can be devastating. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
Coming up - why this couple is furious about being asked to pay | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
a cancellation fee for hundreds of pounds | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
when it wasn't them that cancelled their holiday. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
To make such an excessive charge for something that was | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
not our fault leaves me absolutely astounded. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:50 | |
And we'll unravel the costs and complications | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
of checking in airline baggage. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
It's all because they think they can make more money | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
out of you and me, the traveller, | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
and they don't care how confused we are. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
Next, of all the stories you've sent us about travel insurance | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
not paying out, this is one of the most shocking. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
Not just because of what happened at the start, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
but also because of the amount of time it's taken | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
to resolve the situation. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
And then there's the fact that the company in question | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
isn't some online firm offering bargain-basement cover. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
It's one of the most respected names in the business. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
For Robert Robb and his wife Patricia from Dundee, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
Tenerife has always been a favourite destination. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
They typically went there at least three times a year to visit friends. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
We loved it there, basically, it was just quiet enough for us. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
They had golf, bowling, everything I wanted to do. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
We enjoyed the area so much | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
we were seriously thinking about retiring to the area. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
Robert always has travel insurance when he goes away. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
And on his last trip he'd bought, through a local broker, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
an annual policy with Japanese company Tokio Marine, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
not a household name in the UK, but a huge player internationally, | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
with policies highly regarded within the industry itself. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
So, as the couple had had their share of health problems, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
it gave them peace of mind as they planned their next trip. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
I declared my type two diabetes and slightly high blood pressure. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
Patricia declared her high blood pressure | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
and a few other conditions she had. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
We made a clear, defined declaration of our conditions. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:23 | |
But their visit to Tenerife in August 2009 | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
was far from the relaxing break they had been looking forward to. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:31 | |
I just heard a noise from the bedroom and went through | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
and found Patricia on the floor. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
A friend called an ambulance straight away. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
Patricia was rushed straight to hospital. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
And as all Robert wanted was for his wife to be looked after, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
he didn't immediately worry about which one she went to. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
In fact Patricia had been taken | 0:03:50 | 0:03:51 | |
to one of the island's private hospitals | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
where her serious condition would also mean a serious bill. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:58 | |
Patricia was whisked straight in, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
and, of course, with the language barrier | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
I was taken to an interpreter's office, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
giving them all the details, giving them the insurance, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
giving the medical card, filled out all the forms | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
and, erm, sat and waited. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:12 | |
Within an hour, doctors broke the devastating news to Robert | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
that his wife had had a brain haemorrhage. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
I was just in shock, I think, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
because you did not expect somebody to have a serious thing like that, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
especially at 40-odd years of age. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
With Patricia still in intensive care, the last thing Robert wanted | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
was to have to worry about how the hospital bill was going to be paid. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
But after five days he discovered that his travel insurance | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
wouldn't pay for any of the costs. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
From Tenerife, Robert tried to contact the insurance helpline | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
to get some answers. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:44 | |
All they would tell me is that I would have to | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
put a complaint in once I got back to the UK. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
With Tokio Marine refusing to foot the bill, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
the hospital said they would no longer continue to treat Patricia, | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
and that the couple would have to settle the bill | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
of over 9,000 euros already run up. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
So Patricia was faced with a difficult move across the island | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
to a government-funded hospital where, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
thanks to her European Health Insurance card, | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
she wouldn't have to pay. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:13 | |
I basically felt that she was just being turfed out from the hospital | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
into the car park, waiting for an ambulance | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
and then we were zoomed up the road. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
I really didn't think she should be moved at that time. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
Before they set off, Robert also had to settle that huge bill, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
and he had no other choice but to pay on his credit cards. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
Having to pay for the thing myself | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
and then trying to solve the entire situation. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
If you can imagine what that feels like, it is terrifying. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
Now seriously short of cash, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
Robert couldn't afford to stay near Patricia's new hospital. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
He ended up staying in apartments borrowed from friends, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
up to 60 miles away. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
And he had to keep making the journey to the hospital | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
for the next 11 days. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
Went to the hospital to see Patricia. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
She couldn't make herself understood, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
so I drew up little diagrams for her in the hospital | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
because there were no interpreters in that hospital, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
pointing out when she wanted food, drink, to go to the toilet, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
or she felt unwell, and she could just point with her left hand | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
for the nurses, exactly what she wanted. Erm... | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
(Difficult.) | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
At last, doctors decided Patricia was well enough to fly. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
But with no insurance footing the bill, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
there was no question of a "medical evacuation" to get them home. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
They had to travel on an ordinary flight. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
Just that we'd left there. I just was so glad to be going home. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
But when they were safely home, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
Robert still had that massive credit card bill to clear. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
The only way he could raise the money was to re-mortgage their home. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
And he still couldn't understand why their insurance | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
hadn't covered them when they needed it most. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
I finally got told we hadn't declared all our medical conditions, | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
which was a complete surprise to me | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
because we believed we'd declared all our medical conditions | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
and our broker had all the medical conditions in... | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
as far as we were concerned | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
he had a copy of them all and he passed them on to Tokio Marine. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
He arranged it. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:15 | |
But Tokio Marine insisted | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
they hadn't had the necessary information from anyone, | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
and without it, the couple simply weren't covered. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
The insurers and the insurance broker, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
I just felt they'd completely washed their hands of me, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
which of course we didn't agree with, | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
and then we had to start fighting the case, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
and the only way to fight the case, you can't afford a lawyer, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
so you have to go through the Ombudsman. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
The Ombudsman took on the case but it can be a slow process. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
Though they ruled in the couple's favour, the company appealed. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
And it was only in August last year, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
three years after it all happened, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
that the Ombudsman told Tokio Marine | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
they had to honour the claim and pay out | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
on the grounds that Patricia's pre-existing conditions had nothing | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
to do with the brain haemorrhage she'd suffered on holiday. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
I had no idea whether I was going to win the case or not | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
and he guided me through it. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:06 | |
When I finally found out I'd won the case I was quite elated. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
The payment covered most of the medical bills and some | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
of the expenses that Robert incurred whilst Patricia was in hospital. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
Robert feels it should have included compensation | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
for the three years of stress and worry he had fighting the claim. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
But when we contacted Tokio Marine, they were very clear that, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
though sympathetic about all that had happened, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
they still don't feel they should have had to pay anything at all. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
They maintain they were told nothing | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
about the couple's medical conditions, | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
and stressed that an insurance contract... | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
They also told us | 0:08:44 | 0:08:45 | |
that a qualified medical expert had confirmed their view that Patricia's | 0:08:45 | 0:08:50 | |
pre-existing conditions were linked to the events in Tenerife. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
As such, they were... | 0:08:54 | 0:08:55 | |
We also contacted the broker who'd sold the policy, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
and though he wouldn't comment in detail as the complaint is ongoing, | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
he disagreed with what Robert remembers, saying he wasn't aware | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
of the couple's medical conditions. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
He doesn't keep records of such things, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
and it was up to them to pass on that to the insurer. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
Meanwhile, though delighted the Ombudsman found in their favour, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
Robert and Patricia are frustrated | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
that getting this resolved has taken so long. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
He says it's stressful for me | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
but he had it all on his shoulders when we were in Tenerife. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
To think we went away with two credit cards, the EHIC cards, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:44 | |
and insurance cards, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
we basically did belt and braces, | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
and to think we still had that problem | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
I still find it incredibly difficult to believe. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
We did everything we possibly could. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:55 | |
Now whether you're someone who travels light, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
and I hold my hand up, that's not me, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
or you pack everything but the kitchen sink, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
if you're going abroad, you'll usually need to take some luggage. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
And I'm afraid that's a lot more complicated than it used to be. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
Now we know from your letters and e-mails | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
just how frustrating many of you find it | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
when nowadays you'll often have to pay for the privilege | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
of taking a bag on a plane. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:25 | |
And that's made even worse by the fact that no two airlines | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
seem to agree on what size and weight they'll let you check in | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
or indeed carry on board. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:34 | |
I just guess, I never weigh mine. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
My partner always weighs his case but I never weigh mine. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
We've got, like, 20 kilos, one hand luggage... | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
erm, baggage what you put through the hold | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
and we've got two hand luggages of ten kilos. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
So it is a bit confusing. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:52 | |
Big bags are big business for the airlines, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
but it isn't always obvious when you're comparing flight costs | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
how much taking your bags will add to the price. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
Because even if the cost per bag is clearly displayed, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
and sometimes it's not, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:07 | |
it can be much harder to fathom what weight that bag can be | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
or whether your baggage allowance can be spread | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
between different members of the group. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
However reluctantly, most of us have got used to the idea | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
of having to pay to check in a bag if we book with a bargain airline. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:25 | |
But you know, it's the sheer inconsistency of the rules | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
that you've told us can leave you feeling confused, angry, | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
and very often out of pocket. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
Airlines have wildly different policies on baggage. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
For instance, the standard allowance for a checked-in bag | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
on a Thomson Airways package holiday is 15kg. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:44 | |
But with rival Monarch you can carry up to 20. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
Book with the budget airlines and it's an equally mixed picture. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
Although you'll always have to pay to check in a bag, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
with EasyJet it can be 20 kilos. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
Yet fly with rival Jet2 and you can pack a bit extra. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
They allow 22 kilos. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
It's all very confusing. And getting it wrong can cost you dear. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:12 | |
The problems and the charges really start to hit | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
if you haven't been able to squeeze it all into your allowance. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
Because if bag charges are a useful little earner for the airlines, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
excess fees can be a goldmine. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
Stray over the limit and Flybe charge you at least £12 | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
for every kilo you are over. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
With Thomas Cook Airlines it's a heftier £14. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
The question is, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:39 | |
why can't the airlines just agree a common set of rules? | 0:12:39 | 0:12:43 | |
That way we'd all know exactly how much we should be packing. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
You might want to ask an older person about the good old days | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
when there was a consistent weight limit around the world of 20kg. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:57 | |
That has gone years ago. What you've got now is every airline | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
setting its own policy for its own commercial reasons. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
The budget airlines want to set the bar as low as possible. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
15kg cos then they can charge you more for carrying more. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
An airline like British Airways wants to say, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
"We're a bit of a cut above the rest, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:16 | |
"23kg to you, sir or madam." | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
And then you have the Arab gulf-based airlines, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
Etihad, Emirates saying, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
"Even in Economy, you can carry 30kg of luggage. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
It's all because they think they can make more money | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
out of you and me, the traveller, and they don't care how confused we are. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
One way to avoid getting caught out at the airport is to invest in | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
some luggage scales so that you can weigh your bags before you set off. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
Now they usually only cost a few quid, they're quite neat, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
but they could save you a lot of bother and expense | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
when you actually get to the check-in desk. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
But you may also need a tape measure. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:52 | |
That is where this is actually quite useful | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
because you have got the weighing and the tape measure. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
Whereas with the bags you want to check in | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
it's weight that's the issue, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
when it comes to hand luggage it's size that really does matter. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
Once again, pick an airline, pick a different set of rules. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
With carry-on bags, even the main scheduled carriers can't agree. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
For instance, BA will let you take a bag a full ten centimetres wider | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
than KLM would allow. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
To keep all the airlines happy, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:22 | |
you'd end up with a house full of different-sized bags! | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
The rules may vary, | 0:14:26 | 0:14:27 | |
but one thing most airlines would agree on is that, | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
provided you stick to them, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
carrying on your hand luggage is free. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
Or at least that was the case. But not any more. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
Wizzair, a low-cost carrier | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
flying to cities in Eastern Europe, has broken ranks. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
On this airline you don't just pay for putting a bag in the hold, | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
there's a charge if it can't go under the seat in front | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
and has to be put in the overhead locker! | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
And as if all that wasn't complicated enough, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
baggage costs can even vary depending WHEN you fly. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
Last year, Ryanair charged more for carrying luggage in high season | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
than they did for the rest of the year. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
And Wizzair charge extra in the holiday periods as well. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
In the end the only way to cut through all this without being | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
hit with unwelcome extra charges is to make sure you really check the | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
airline's small print on baggage before you even start to pack. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
Maybe that extra pair of shoes isn't such a good idea after all. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
Gloria, I must listen to my own advice. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
Now, while millions of Brits flock to resorts like this one | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
every year, there are plenty more who have just as good a time | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
by taking their holidays in the good old UK. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
And an increasingly popular way of doing that is in a static caravan. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:46 | |
Now nearly seven and a half million breaks | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
are taken in them every year, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
and many of those will be by people who've bought their caravan. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
That way, not only can they take a holiday whenever they choose, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
but there's also the option of helping cover the costs | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
by letting it out when they don't want to use it. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
Of course that all sounds ideal, and for many people it is, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
but a problem can be that the rules about how and when you're allowed | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
to let your holiday home out are set by the park where you keep it. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
And I'm afraid that can produce some very unwelcome surprises. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
The British coast and seaside is as beautiful | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
and dramatic as anywhere in the world. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
And many people who've found a spot they particularly love | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
have found a way to go back there as often as they like | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
by owning a static caravan. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
There are 275,000 of them across the country. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
And when Trevor and Elina Jenkins from Hereford began thinking about | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
joining the ranks of static caravan owners, it was because friends | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
told them about a way the investment can be made more affordable. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
We had friends who had caravans in the past, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
and we have had caravanning holidays and we just decided | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
to look for one and maybe subsidise it with subletting. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
With money tight, | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
Trevor was taken with the idea that by renting out the caravan | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
when he and his family weren't using it, he could cover his costs. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
Subletting, that was a way of paying for our holiday. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:17 | |
It would work out that we had a free holiday every year | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
and the ground rent would be paid from subletting. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
Delighted with the idea, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
Trevor started looking online for something in his price range. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
And a holiday park on the Isle of Sheppey in Kent caught his eye. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
Called Harts, it's part of the Park Holidays Group | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
and is a long-established site very popular since the 1940s. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
Trevor and Elina drove down to take a look. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
My wife loved it. She fell in love with it. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
They have got a swimming pool, Jacuzzi. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
They've got a club that has nightlife so, yes, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
everything that we wanted was there. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
Trevor and Elina had a budget of £6,500, | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
a substantial chunk of their life savings. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
That wouldn't get them one of the latest models, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
but there were still a few within that price range they could see, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
including a 13-year-old one that caught their eye. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
They were in good condition. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
It had a fridge, a freezer, a built in radio. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:18 | |
So it had all the facilities | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
you would need for a holiday. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
Confident the caravan could be let out to cover his annual costs, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
Trevor bought it. But unfortunately, | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
his understanding of how the subletting would work | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
turns out to be wildly at odds with the holiday park's. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
And that's all to do with the age of the caravan. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
Like many parks, Harts won't generally sublet any | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
that are more than ten years old. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
But they may relax this rule | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
if the caravan is in exceptionally good condition for its age, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
and there's likely to be a high demand. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
And there was certainly no doubt on that last point. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
We were told before we decided to buy | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
that the park was particularly busy, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
which it was when we went down to have a look, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
it was absolutely packed. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:09 | |
So Trevor signed up to buy the caravan | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
at a cost of almost £4,000, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
plus £2,500 to cover the park's fees and costs. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
When we shook hands and walked away, we thought we had a good deal | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
and that we would have our holiday or two every year | 0:19:23 | 0:19:29 | |
and it wouldn't cost us a great deal of money in the future. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:34 | |
When he left, Trevor was under the impression | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
that the caravan he'd bought would be sub-let for him indefinitely. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
In fact, the park had only agreed to do it for a year. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
For the first year, all went as Trevor had hoped. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
His caravan was rented out problem-free, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
and the income did cover his costs. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
We went down, had a holiday. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
We spent a week down there and, erm, we came back. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
Erm, the caravan was being rented regularly | 0:20:00 | 0:20:06 | |
and everything was going great. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
It was only last summer, part way through the next holiday season, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
that Trevor realised the deal wasn't what he'd thought it was. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
Beginning of August, we had a letter from head office. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
Ground rent bill for two thousand, three hundred and something pounds. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:28 | |
Trevor had believed that the park's annual bill would once again | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
be offset by the money raised from sub-letting the caravan. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
Alarm bells started ringing. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:37 | |
He got straight on the phone to the holiday park. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
That's when we were told | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
that the caravan had been taken off... | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
..the list for subletting | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
and it hadn't been let at all in 2012. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
I was absolutely dumbstruck. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:57 | |
Trevor maintains he was never told | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
that the caravan would only be sub-let for one year, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
something the holiday park "utterly refutes." | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
They've told us... | 0:21:07 | 0:21:08 | |
And they have... | 0:21:12 | 0:21:13 | |
That's partly because accommodation let for holiday guests must, | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
by law, be inspected on an annual basis before each season, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
and subjected to various safety checks. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
They've explained they were able to let it out the first year | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
because Trevor had only just bought it from them. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
But they're adamant the arrangement was made sufficiently clear, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
and that they'd written to Trevor several months before | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
last summer's bill explaining that he wouldn't be able | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
to take part in their sub-letting scheme the next season. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
Now Trevor insists he never saw that letter. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
But regardless of how | 0:21:52 | 0:21:53 | |
such a fundamental misunderstanding occurred, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
the caravan is no longer paying for itself, | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
and he's stuck with an expense that he simply can no longer afford. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
We just can't afford to keep it. We're going to have to sell it | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
or get it moved off, which is going to cost us even more money. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:12 | |
Trevor could continue sub-letting the caravan himself, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
although to do so he'd have to take on | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
all the arrangements and responsibilities. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
Or he could upgrade to a newer caravan. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
But either way, that means costs that he wasn't expecting. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
Which it seems isn't that uncommon. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
Experts say, as with any large purchase, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
it's crucial to do your research, and if necessary take advice, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
before signing up to something that may not be quite what you think. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
Meanwhile for Trevor, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:41 | |
what looked like an affordable way of enjoying regular trips | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
to the coast has quickly become a millstone he can't afford. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
As far as selling it is concerned, we may end up having to scrap it | 0:22:49 | 0:22:54 | |
and paying for it to be removed from Harts site. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
Perhaps I will go down with a sledgehammer, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
break it up and get rid of it myself. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
Still to come on Rip Off Britain, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
a holiday company whose prices | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
can turn out a lot higher than you bargained for. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
What you see on the internet is not the actual price you're going to pay. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:20 | |
If you're after somewhere just that little bit different | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
when planning a holiday, you don't have to spend a fortune | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
or compromise on comfort. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
Take the good old youth hostel. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
These days you're more likely to enjoy all the mod cons | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
than endure cold, shared dormitories. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
There are now thousands of hostels worldwide, many of them | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
equivalent in standards to a good hotel. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
There are hundreds of great places to stay in Britain | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
and abroad where you're going to be spending relatively little, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
you are going to be staying very comfortably, | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
And you're not just going to meet young people. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
In fact you're much more likely to meet older people, particularly | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
if you go off around the world to backpackers hostels where, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
actually, I think the average age is probably upwards of 50. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
If that's not your thing, the internet has unlocked all kinds | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
of possibilities when it comes to finding somewhere memorable to stay. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
A really popular one is renting somebody's spare room. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:27 | |
It's a great idea! It's not the same as B&B, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
it's actually quite a lot more relaxed than that and sometimes | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
you might even find that you get the whole place to yourself. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
Simply not the kind of experience | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
you could possibly have found in a hotel. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
And if you really want a home from home, | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
how about swapping your house with someone else | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
and get to stay in another part of the world for free? | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
Very simply, when you're on holiday, by definition you're not using | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
your house or your flat and somebody else could. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
And of course there's plenty of people | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
who want to come to Britain. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
They may well want to stay in your place | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
and it's simply a matter of putting the two together. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
Almost always it's a very, very successful way | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
of travelling and spending less. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
Next, a company that, considering it's hardly a household name, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
is one that you've been making quite a few complaints about. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
Not least because some of you say that after you've thought | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
you'd already booked a holiday at one price, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
they've suddenly said you need to cough up more. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
Last autumn, Merriel Brewer and her husband Mel | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
had more reason than most to be looking forward to a break. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
They hadn't had a holiday for several years | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
because of poor health. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
He was diagnosed with leukaemia | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
and had a bone marrow transplant in 2009. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
It was only this year that they gave us the OK to travel. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
In the last three years, I've had two hip operations | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
so we couldn't travel in any case with me as well, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
so we've just had a little bit of a rough time over the last four years. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
To put that right, Merriel wanted to book somewhere special, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
so where better than the Turkish resort they'd been to | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
on honeymoon nine years ago? | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
We had a fabulous holiday on our honeymoon. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
We chose the same place, really, it was like a second honeymoon. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
A friend recommended an online booking site called Holiday Gems. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:27 | |
So Merriel logged on and was delighted to be able to book | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
the same apartment complex that they'd stayed in before. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
I booked a holiday for a week, | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
flying from Bristol on the 9th October to Gumbet, Turkey. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:44 | |
Or at least she thought she'd booked it, | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
especially when an e-mail confirming what she wanted | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
pinged into her inbox. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
Merriel assumed that all was now done and dusted. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
And, with their budget limited, she was delighted | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
that they'd found a holiday at a price they could afford. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
After I had put all the card details in and paid for it, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
we were both very excited about it because we haven't been away | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
for four years and we just needed a break together. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:12 | |
But two days later, Merriel received a call from Holiday Gems. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:17 | |
She was told the flights she wanted had now gone up in price. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
And, if she still wanted the holiday, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
she'd have to pay the extra. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
I was quite annoyed when I had the phone call, | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
because I thought it was all paid for. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
But he said it had gone up and I thought, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
"Oh, well we'll wear that one." | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
Merriel was given the option to cancel, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
but not only did they really want the holiday, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
they'd already arranged to meet friends there. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
So she ended up paying £120 more than she'd expected. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:49 | |
Unhappy, Merriel decided to check what price Holiday Gems | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
were currently advertising for her holiday. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
And a quick look online revealed | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
that the website was still showing it at the same price | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
that she was originally quoted, | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
with no mention of extra charges. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
I was just annoyed. I said, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
"Why should I be paying more than it was advertised on the internet?" | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
Because everything had been budgeted | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
and we had saved, you know, over the last four years to go. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
But it seems that Merriel's experience is not a one-off. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
Now, Holiday Gems may not be one of the biggest names | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
in the industry, but it is one that has cropped up | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
a surprising number of times in our postbag this year. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
We've heard from people all over the country who have booked a holiday | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
through the Holiday Gems website only to find that the price they've | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
been quoted online is not the one that they've ended up paying. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:44 | |
Amongst the viewers we've spoken to | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
is Tony Gallagher from Hertfordshire, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
who after choosing a family holiday to Gran Canaria | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
was contacted the next day and told that | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
he couldn't fly from his chosen airport unless he paid another £400. | 0:28:54 | 0:29:01 | |
Then there's the Raines family from Cumbria. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
They'd gone for a week's holiday to Crete, but a few days after booking, | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
dad Stephen got a call from Holiday Gems saying | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
it would be an extra £150 for the flights. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:15 | |
With plenty of other people telling us similar experiences, | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
what is going on? | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
Well, the explanation is tucked away | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
in the company's Terms and Conditions, where it states that | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
when you enter your card details on the Holiday Gems site, | 0:29:26 | 0:29:30 | |
you're not buying a holiday there and then, | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
but "making an offer" for them to book the holiday you've picked. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:37 | |
They'll then check if they can get the travel you've chosen | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
at the price quoted. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
And if they can't, and prices have gone up, | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
they'll then contact you asking for more money. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
But the people we've spoken to didn't realise any of that | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
at the time when they were booking. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
Their site isn't live. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:55 | |
What you see on the internet is not the actual price you're going to pay. | 0:29:55 | 0:30:00 | |
They don't actually explain everything to you. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
So it's clear that the price stated on the website is just a quote | 0:30:03 | 0:30:07 | |
and not the final price you'll pay? | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
Holiday Gems say yes. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
They're adamant it's all made very obvious and that | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
as you have to tick the box | 0:30:16 | 0:30:17 | |
saying you've understood the Terms and Conditions... | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
They reiterated that they're simply an online travel agency, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
and as such are wholly reliant on their supplier's prices, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
which... | 0:30:35 | 0:30:36 | |
If the final amount turns out to be different than the initial quote, | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
they stress customers can either simply authorise them | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
to take any additional payment, or... | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
But while our postbag suggests not all customers do find things | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
quite as clear as the company thinks, | 0:30:58 | 0:31:00 | |
stories like this are a reminder that before you ever tick the box | 0:31:00 | 0:31:04 | |
saying you accept any company's Terms and Conditions, | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
you really do need to read them and understand exactly what they are. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
You've sent us a lot of letters and e-mails about your holiday gripes. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
So we've brought some of them with us to Tenerife | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
to run past our travel expert Simon Calder | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
and fellow travel writer Fred Mawer. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
One is an issue that comes up time and again. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
Fred, I'm going to say two words. Single supplement. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
You're smiling, because you know we get loads and loads | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
of letters and e-mails about this. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
This one is from Beryl Foreman of Leicestershire who says that | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
she went on a cruise, wanted a single cabin, | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
was told that she had to pay a supplement | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
whereas if she only paid an extra 400 quid | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
she could have taken someone with her and got a spacious double cabin. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:56 | |
And actually, we hear this so often. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
It's not just on cruises, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:00 | |
it's on every kind of holiday you can imagine. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:02 | |
People who travel alone pay more and get less. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:06 | |
It is one of the big bugbears of travel at the moment. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
If you want a single cabin on a cruise ship | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
you'll be paying through the nose for it. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
-Something tiny, near the engines. -Well, that's the double problem. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:19 | |
The double problem is you're likely to pay more, and also, | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
you're likely to get a much worse deal | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
because you'll be put, as you say, in the nasty cabin, | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
kind of inside cabin close to the engines. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
And the other frustrating thing I have found, | 0:32:31 | 0:32:33 | |
when I've been travelling on my own, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
is that even when the cruise ship isn't full | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
and there are lots of beautiful double cabins available | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
they still put you in the pokey single room. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
So is there hope for the future that as more | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
and more people need to travel on their own | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
because of family or individual circumstances, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
that more and more companies will realise that actually | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
there is money to be made from single travellers | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
and it's not just from charging them a supplement? | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
Yes, I think it comes down, it's the financial imperative that | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
if these companies realise that more single people are willing to travel | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
and likely to travel if they're not, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
if they don't feel that they're going to be ripped off | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
then hopefully the holiday companies will see sense | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
and charge a fair price. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
Now, if you cancel a holiday, it's not unreasonable | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
for the holiday company you booked with to perhaps charge for doing so. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
But if it's the company themselves that cancel it, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
well, is it still reasonable that it's you | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
that ends up being landed with a fee? | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
If you think not, | 0:33:32 | 0:33:33 | |
then spare a thought for people who found themselves | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
exactly in that position after booking a cruise | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
with one of the biggest names in the business. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
For Peter and Ginny Pritchard from Milton Keynes | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
there's only one type of holiday. Cruises! | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
They went on their first one | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
to celebrate their silver wedding anniversary 25 years ago. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
And they've been on plenty more since then. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
What we like about it is the fact that every morning when you wake up | 0:33:55 | 0:34:00 | |
and you're in a different location. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
You don't have to keep packing your bags | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
because you take your hotel room with you. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:10 | |
I just have to pack my bags, well, even he packs my bags for me | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
because I can't do it, so he says. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
And off we go. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
Always on the lookout for their next voyage, when the couple heard | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
that P&O Cruises had a new addition to their fleet, the Adonia, | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
they were very keen to try it, | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
and to take their good friend Peggy with them. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
A new ship, some destinations that we hadn't travelled to before, | 0:34:28 | 0:34:34 | |
and we thought this would be absolutely great, | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
to get away, to take our dear friend with us, Peggy. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
Peter went online to hunt down the best deal. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
And he came across an agency called Planet Cruise. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
With a website boasting several awards and numerous happy customers, | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
they seemed the perfect company to organise their special trip. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
So Peter booked a ten-day cruise with them, | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
to leave around this time last year. | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
We booked the Adonia. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
We were to sail on the 3rd January from Italy. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
We were to fly out to Italy and to sail back through | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
many of the Mediterranean ports and back to Southampton. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
But shortly before they were due to set sail, | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
they had some very disappointing news. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
I received a telephone call just before Christmas | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
from Planet Cruise to say "You're not going after all." | 0:35:24 | 0:35:29 | |
It was absolutely mind-blowing. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:33 | |
P&O Cruises had cancelled the voyage, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
because of "operational difficulties." | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
But, they said everyone would be entitled to a full refund because, | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
after all, it was their fault the cruise wasn't going ahead. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
P&O offered us a refund, in full, of our monies | 0:35:45 | 0:35:51 | |
and in addition, | 0:35:51 | 0:35:52 | |
they offered us an additional 25% as a cruise credit to be | 0:35:52 | 0:35:58 | |
used against some future cruise with them to be booked on a later date. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:03 | |
Personally, I felt that that was most reasonable. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
But when Peter called Planet Cruise, the company he'd booked with, | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
they told him about a clause in their small print, | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
which seemed to make P&O's offer not quite as good as he'd thought. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
Unless we booked that other cruise through them | 0:36:16 | 0:36:21 | |
within a 12-week period that we would have to suffer | 0:36:21 | 0:36:26 | |
a deduction of £150 each | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
from the refund that P&O were offering. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:35 | |
We were not in a position to book another cruise at that time. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:40 | |
Included in Planet Cruise's Terms and Conditions | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
was a cancellation fee of £150 per passenger. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
And Peter was told that | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
if a customer cancels a booked cruise for any reason, | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
whether it's their fault or not, they have to pay this fee. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
So it seemed that if he didn't rebook | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
another trip with Planet Cruise within 12 weeks, | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
he'd be classified as cancelling, | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
and the fee would be taken off his refund. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
And in his case, because he'd booked two cabins, | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
that would mean losing hundreds of pounds. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
I fully appreciate that if, for whatever reason, | 0:37:11 | 0:37:16 | |
I decided that we wanted to cancel the cruise, | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
I fully expect that I am going to be penalised in some way | 0:37:20 | 0:37:24 | |
for having changed my mind. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
But I didn't change my mind. We were simply told that we couldn't go. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:33 | |
Outraged at the prospect of paying a cancellation fee | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
for something he didn't cancel, Peter also contacted P&O Cruises. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:41 | |
P&O informed me that they were duty bound to return our payment | 0:37:41 | 0:37:48 | |
to the cruise agent rather than direct to us. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
Feeling all this was unfair, Peter decided to contact ABTA, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
The Association of British Travel Agents, | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
to see if they could help. | 0:37:58 | 0:37:59 | |
ABTA's advice was for him to take his case | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
to their arbitration scheme, but it would cost him! | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
They wanted me to send an arbitration fee of £180 | 0:38:05 | 0:38:11 | |
and I didn't dare to risk spending another £180 | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
on top of the £600 that they had already charged us. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:20 | |
Not willing to risk losing any more money, | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
Peter and Ginny decided the only thing for it was to do | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
what Planet Cruise had said, and book another cruise right away. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
But sadly their friend Peggy | 0:38:29 | 0:38:30 | |
wasn't able to reschedule the cruise within the time frame. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:34 | |
So when she got back her share of the original cruise costs, | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
it was minus the amount of the cancellation charge. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
I thought the fact that they was taking that money off of me, | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
I was really angry about it. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
And it's very unjust. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
When we contacted Planet Cruise they were adamant that in the end, | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
the cancellation charge wasn't applied. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
They accept that... | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
..in the way... | 0:38:59 | 0:39:00 | |
but insist that... | 0:39:02 | 0:39:03 | |
They say a sum equal to the cancellation fees, | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
including Peggy's, | 0:39:08 | 0:39:09 | |
was discounted from the price of Peter's replacement cruise, | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
so no-one is out of pocket. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
Peter disputes that, | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
but either way, his main beef is that he doesn't feel | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
there should ever have been talk of a cancellation fee at all. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
Or that the company should have been able to use the threat of it | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
to encourage him into making a new booking. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
Planet Cruise is a member of ABTA | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
and makes clear that it abides by strict codes of conduct. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
But when we discussed the case with ABTA, | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
they agreed that a cancellation charge should not have come into it. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
It is wrong. It's wrong and it's a breach of our code of conduct. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
My understanding is that the customer has had a full refund. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
If she hasn't then she should get it | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
and we will certainly take that up with the companies. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
But this actually is a classic case, isn't it, of somebody... | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
you freely admit that Planet Cruise has done something incorrect here, | 0:39:57 | 0:40:01 | |
that they should never have charged a cancellation fee, | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
so it suggests to me that there's not much monitoring going on | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
as far as ABTA's concerned. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
Millions of holidays are sold by our members every year. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
We do have monitoring procedures in place and they're very effective. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
What measures do you take to make sure that an ABTA member | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
sticks to your code of conduct? | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
The most common way that members are punished, if you like, | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
if they do something wrong, if they breach the code | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
would be through fines. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:24 | |
We also have what's called a code of conduct committee. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
That code of conduct committee has a lot of bite | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
and members have been and can be fined | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
or even expelled from the Association. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
Meanwhile Peter and Ginny hope to arrange | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
another cruise with Peggy in the future. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
And though they can't wait to set sail again, next time, | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
they'll be much more wary of the small print. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
I think the treatment that we've received from Planet Cruise | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
has been abysmal. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
To make such an excessive charge | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
for something that was not our fault | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
leaves me absolutely astounded. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
Here at Rip Off Britain, we're always ready to investigate | 0:41:03 | 0:41:07 | |
your stories on any subject, not just holidays. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
Confused over your bills? | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
Trying to wade through never-ending small print? | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
We should read it, but it's not in plain English. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
It should be simple, you know, ABC, very basic stuff. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
You might have a cautionary tale of your own, and want to share | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
the mistakes you've made with us, so that others don't do the same. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:29 | |
We paid them good money to work in our best interest. They didn't. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:33 | |
You can write to us at... | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
Or send us an e-mail to... | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
The Rip Off team is ready and waiting to investigate your stories. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:56 | |
Well, I think we all know that holidays can be | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
expensive enough at the best of times. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
So the last thing you want is to be hit with extra costs | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
that you hadn't expected. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:08 | |
But it does seem that all too often, | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
pinning down the exact price that you're going to pay | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
is still far more complicated a process than it really should be, | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
-don't you think? -Couldn't agree more. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
It's particularly frustrating | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
when you've actively sought out what you think is a really good deal, | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
only to suddenly be told that you've got to pay more | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
and there's absolutely nothing that you can do about it. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:29 | |
So it's easy to see why so many of you have told us | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
that you find that truly unfair. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
We'll be looking at this topic again, so keep your examples coming. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
And in the meantime, don't forget, we've plenty of advice, | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
not just to do with holidays, on our website. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
Well, we're out of time for today, | 0:42:47 | 0:42:48 | |
but we'll see you again soon to investigate more of your stories. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:52 | |
So until then from all of us... | 0:42:52 | 0:42:53 | |
-Bye-bye. -And thanks for being around today. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
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