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There's a lot we don't know about the food on our plates.

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And the shops and the labels don't always tell you the whole story.

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Sometimes when you have these offers on in the supermarket,

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you think you're getting a good deal.

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But if you're actually throwing it away it's not a good deal.

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Whether you're staying in or going out, you've told us you can

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feel ripped off by the promises made for what you eat.

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And what you pay for it.

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What really winds me up, I suppose,

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is the price of so-called healthy food

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compared with the unhealthy stuff.

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The unhealthy stuff seems to be so much cheaper.

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From claims that don't stack up to the secrets behind the packaging,

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we'll uncover the truth about Britain's food

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so you can be sure you're getting what you expect, at the right price.

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Your food, your money, this is Rip-Off Britain.

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Hello, and welcome to Rip-Off Britain

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where once again, we're lifting the lid on

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what you need to know about food.

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And today, we're exposing the secrets of

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some everyday favourites that perhaps you haven't really

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given a second thought to.

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But after you've seen today's programme, I bet you will.

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And that's because a number of you have asked us

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to take a much closer look at some well-known foods that may not

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be everything that you've assumed.

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At least when it comes to what's inside them.

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And of course, a few of the products that you've contacted us

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about may cost a little more than some of the cheaper alternatives.

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So we'll be trying to find out what you're actually getting

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to justify paying the extra money.

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So, as we get to the bottom of whether you really do always

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get what you pay for,

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hopefully you'll pick up a few tips that may well save you some money.

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Coming up...

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Why the rules that protect a Cornish pasty could put

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this cheesemaker out of business.

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It is very frustrating.

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It can happen just like that and it's totally out of your control.

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So, so, it's a difficult thing to get used to.

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And have you switched sugar for honey?

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Find out if it's really any better for you.

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A lot of people use honey in favour of sugar cos

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they think it's a lot better.

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Honey does have some nutritional value to it,

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but it's not as great as people tend to think.

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After spending decades in the culinary

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and nutritional wilderness,

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copping the blame for everything from heart disease to

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high cholesterol, many people are delighted to say that butter

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is back on the menu.

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And being honest, in our house it never really went away.

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But when is butter not quite butter?

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That's the question one viewer asked after noticing what

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he thought was the real deal was actually nothing of the kind.

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And he wanted to find out why.

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Ah, butter.

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It's natural, tastes great, and for generations,

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was a staple of every family kitchen.

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From our morning toast to our tea-time cakes...

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Here you are. It's butter too. Real butter.

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Mm. Wonderful.

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Only butter tastes like butter.

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But as the health-conscious 1980s dawned,

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butter went firmly out of fashion,

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as the saturated fat it contained was linked to heart disease.

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For years we had a love affair.

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Then we found out the butter we loved had cholesterol.

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We were all told that not only was modern margarine

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better for us, but it would spread straight from the fridge as well.

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But over the years,

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butter has battled its way back into our hearts.

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And in 2015, the original warnings made about it were found

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to have been based on flawed data,

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therefore cementing its place in our hearts once and for all.

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And by now, a range of new products sought to prove that you could

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still get that buttery taste and spread it straight from the fridge.

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They look like butter. Their names sound like they are butter.

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But they are not.

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Rip-Off Britain viewer John Lomax from Preston wasn't happy

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when he realised that that was the case with the one that he'd bought.

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I thought, "Oh, butter."

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But when I looked at the list of ingredients

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I found that it only has about 20% butter content.

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And that shocked me.

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Although John had assumed from the name it was butter,

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Tesco's Butterpak only contains 26% of butter.

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The rest is mainly oils and water.

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I thought that they couldn't do that.

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They are pulling the wool over our eyes.

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In fact, Tesco isn't pulling the wool over anybody's eyes.

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The store didn't comment on John's concern but its Butterpak is

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clearly labelled as a spread and not as a butter.

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And spreads don't need to contain as much butter as the real thing.

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The law says that true butter

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has to contain between 80% and 90% milk fat.

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So when it comes to buying spreads or butter, always check the label

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as spreads only usually contain butter as one of the ingredients.

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But when you have spreads being produced by some of the best-known

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butter manufacturers, often under the same name

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and with their buttery taste being the main selling point,

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it's easy for the shopper to get very confused.

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So would you know how much butter

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some of the best known spreads contain?

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Let's have a bit of a guessing game, then.

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Here we have Anchor.

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Which is a very popular-selling one.

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-I'd say 80%.

-80%.

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-54%.

-Is it?

-54.

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And this one?

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-60.

-26.

-My goodness!

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-I use that one.

-You do? OK, you like the taste?

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I like proper butter.

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Would you be surprised then to know that only 64% of butter?

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..butter, is it? Yeah.

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I knew it wasn't all butter because when you get the blocks,

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-you can't spread them in winter.

-No, it's true.

-Mm.

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What do you think that one would be?

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-Butter.

-Butter.

-Mostly butter.

-Mostly butter? OK.

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-In actual fact, it's only 33%.

-Oh, right.

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-So are you surprised at that?

-Yes, I am.

-Yeah.

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We contacted some of the brand leaders

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in the world of buttery spreads.

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Arla Foods, which makes the spreadable versions of Lurpak

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and Anchor, told us that its packs are clearly labelled and are...

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And the makers of Clover and I Can't Believe It's Not Butter both

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said that their products are lower in saturated fat than butter

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while maintaining a buttery taste.

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While their butter content clearly varies, John wants to find out how

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else these spreads differ from both the real thing and indeed margarine.

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So we've brought him to Huddersfield University

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to meet research scientist Dr Laura Waters.

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So, butter is a really simple product.

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It's literally just butterfat and water.

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It's as simple as you can get.

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If you go to the margarines, they would be vegetable oil based.

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And the spreads, they would tend to be oil and butter mixtures.

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They would have a lot less butter in them.

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How can you make butter more spreadable?

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You can make your own spreadable butter.

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The way that industry does it is it adds in oils.

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It will add in some water.

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And because of that, it will also add other ingredients as well.

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So it'd need to add some emulsifier,

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which keeps the oil and water mixed together.

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Industry may also add things such as preservatives,

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to extend the shelf-life,

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colourings and flavourings.

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-Would you like me to show you how to make spreadable butter?

-Yes, please.

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If you're going for the, say, 60% butter option,

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obviously it's going to be 60% butter and 40% oil.

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So, we have 60g of butter in there.

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To this we're going to add 40 of oil.

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And you simply mix the two together.

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Now, it may look at this stage like liquid rather than a solid.

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Once you've cooled this down in the fridge,

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then it will return to a more butter-like consistency

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that you might expect.

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Dr Waters is making up two different types of spreadable butter

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for us to put to the test.

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One was 60% butter, similar to some of the brand-leading spreadables.

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And one with 25%, around the same amount as the Butterpak

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that John bought.

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And we're going to see how they fare

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in one of the toughest tests of all - baking a cake.

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We've set up our own buttery bake-off

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and we've asked these enthusiastic bakers from Huddersfield

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to create their meanest Victoria sponge.

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Each will use one of four different ingredients -

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the two spreads Dr Waters has just made, a real butter,

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and a margarine.

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Now, our bakers have no idea which they've been given.

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But Irene here is cooking with full butter.

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It feels like the butter I use actually when I'm baking at home.

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Megan is using a simple baking spread,

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an off-the-shelf margarine that contains no pure butter whatsoever.

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Kaye has Dr Waters' 60% butter spread.

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And Lucy has Dr Waters' 25% butter spread.

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It's a lot easier to whisk than theirs

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so I've got that going for it.

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So, ingredients beaten, battered, baked, cooled and decorated.

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It's time to add some real heat for our bakers

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as these discerning staff and students arrive

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to judge their culinary creations.

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It's a funny consistency, isn't it?

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There's something about the sponge that just doesn't sit right.

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Needs a bit more sugar.

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I think it needs to be sweeter.

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So, question is, which spread came out best in our test?

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Most popular with our volunteers was the one made with margarine.

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Five of them went for that one.

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Two preferred the taste of the cake

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made with Dr Waters' 60% butter spread.

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And one plumped for the one made with 25% butter.

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But none of them chose the cake made with pure butter.

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I'm quite surprised this was made with 25% butter spread.

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I'd consider using it myself.

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The sponge was very nice. I thought it was perfect, in my opinion.

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I'm not surprised it's made from margarine.

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-Yeah.

-I agree, yeah.

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So there you go. Top marks for margarine on the baking.

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But all of this still leaves John with one crucial question.

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We've been hearing over the past few years that butter's

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good for you, butter's not good for you,

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margarine is good for you, and margarine isn't.

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Which is good, which is bad?

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There are lots of studies which seem to say that the saturated fat,

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so things such as the butter, they're not so good for you.

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They can cause cardiovascular disease,

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they can cause types of cancer, that sort of thing.

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However, there are also lots of other studies

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on the unsaturated fats,

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so that's the oil-based products,

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which say they're not so good for you either.

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This is especially true if you're cooking with one of these products.

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So, because there are studies for both sides,

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I would say just keep it in moderation,

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go for the one you prefer, and if you don't have too much

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of either of them, then you should be fine.

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But for John, there's no doubt which one he prefers.

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Butter.

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The taste is so much better.

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I know it's personal preference

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but at least I know what has gone into the product.

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Now, there are some products where the difference between

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the cheapest and the most expensive on the supermarket shelves

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can be explained purely by the quality of the ingredients.

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In other words, you're getting what you pay for.

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But we've been contacted by one viewer who wanted to know when that

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explanation still stands for the staple of her diet, which is honey.

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Now, the priciest jars can cost as much as ten times more

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than the most affordable.

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So how much do they actually vary in quality?

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Should you stick with the cheaper pots?

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Or is it actually worth paying just that little bit extra?

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British shoppers now spend more on honey than on jam -

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a whopping £119 million last year.

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And it's a trend which some people put down to

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people switching from using sugar,

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which is certainly what Rip-Off Britain viewer

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Yvonne Sayer has done.

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But Yvonne wrote to us wondering why there is such a huge price gap

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between the cheapest and the most expensive varieties on sale.

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I want to know, what is the difference between £1 jar

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of honey and a more expensive jar of £15 and even more?

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The cheapest honey on sale in British supermarkets

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typically sells for around £1.

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Then there is the mid-range of honeys costing between £2 and £4.

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And at the top end,

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specialist honeys, like Manuka, can sell for up to £100 a jar.

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So what is the difference?

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Well, to help answer Yvonne's question, I've come to meet

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David Wainwright, President of the National Bee Farmers Association,

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at his farm in Aberystwyth.

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-Hi, David.

-Hello.

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-Nice to see you.

-Nice to meet you.

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So are we going to go out and see your hives, are we?

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David's farm yields about 25 tonnes of honey a year.

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This might sound like a lot, but actually,

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British bees are only producing a fraction of all

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the honey that we consume in this country every year.

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It's other countries like China, Russia, Argentina, Mexico,

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who are the big honey producers.

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But David says he prefers the taste of British honey.

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We produce a lot of different varieties.

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And all these varieties of honey have got a unique flavour

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and characteristics to them.

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Because they are produced from a different plant

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and that plant contributes slightly different flavours

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and sugars to the nectar which the bees make the honey out of.

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To show me just how varied honey flavours can be, David is

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putting my taste buds to the test with four very different types.

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We've got English, French, Ethiopian and Welsh.

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This is the English one.

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That's from Salisbury Plain.

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-And that's got a cinnamon type of flavour to it.

-Mm!

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-This is the French one.

-That's French lavender

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which comes from the lavender fields in the South of France.

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A bit earthy, actually.

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Ethiopian.

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This is from the rainforest in the south-west of Ethiopia.

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-Mm-hm.

-It comes from a large forest tree.

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-It's quite sort of sweet and light.

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

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And this one is the Welsh one.

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-This is the Welsh one, gathered from hives around here.

-Right.

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So this is from blackberry, willow herb, clover.

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Mm!

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Oh, yes!

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-I can taste the flowers.

-Yeah.

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Much like fine wine, it's these rich regional variations that give

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pure honey its distinctive taste, which stands it apart

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from the cheaper, processed jars in the supermarket.

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These mass-produced jars contain a mix of honeys

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blended together from different sources.

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To show just how that affects the taste,

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David has blended together the pure honeys that I just tasted.

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What happens if we mix these four different types with

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all their individual flavours?

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What happens if we mix them all together?

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Do the flavours sort of counteract one another

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or can you still taste them?

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What else comes out? Yeah.

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And it quickly becomes clear that

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all those subtleties in taste have gone,

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replaced instead by a perfectly pleasant

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but much more middle-of-the-road flavour.

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It's sweet.

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I can't any longer taste that distinctive floral that

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I got from the Welsh or the lavender that I got from the French one.

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It's very pleasant.

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But it doesn't have a distinctive taste

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-as they did when they were separate.

-Yes.

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And of course, that's what's happening with the cheaper

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-varieties of honey, isn't it?

-Yes.

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You are not going for a specific flavour, you are just going

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for honey, but not one that you can distinguish from anything else.

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That's right. That's exactly it, yeah.

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I think you've invented a new honey, David. HE LAUGHS

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The increase in sales of honey has been linked to consumers

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wanting to replace sugar in their diet.

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Like Rip-Off Britain viewer Yvonne.

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But she wants to know, was she right to switch?

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I changed from sugar to honey

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thinking it was better for me. Is it?

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Yvonne says she buys three jars of honey a month

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and uses it in place of sugar,

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normally spending about £1.50 on a jar

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that will typically last her between one and two weeks.

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She wants to know whether that's money well spent

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and whether it really is better for her than plain old sugar.

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To find out, we brought Yvonne to meet nutritionist Ian Marber.

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I wanted to know the nutritional value,

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the difference between sugar and honey.

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A lot of people use honey in favour of sugar

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because they think it's a lot better.

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Honey does have some nutritional value to it

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but it's not as great as people tend to think.

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-You might put it in some tea, for instance.

-Yeah.

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-So you put like a tablespoon in or a teaspoon?

-Oh, no. No, no.

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-A teaspoon.

-A teaspoon is very interesting because that teaspoon,

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which is that amount, is actually going to have 10g of sugar in it,

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which is actually the same amount of sugar that you're going to find

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in four squares of milk chocolate.

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And Ian reckons that honey's reputation for being

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rich in vitamins and minerals is also a bit of a myth.

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This is a tablespoon of honey, 21g.

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And in that you've only actually got 1.3mg,

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not grams, 1.3mg of calcium.

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-OK? So it's not a huge amount of minerals in there.

-No.

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To give you an example,

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there is 210mg of calcium in an ounce of Cheddar.

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Some of the expensive honeys will have more vitamins

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and more minerals in them.

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But because there is a halo of health around foods like honey,

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we are likely to eat more in one go.

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We actually tend to use more of it because we think it's better for us.

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The problem is that it's still rich in sugars -

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a different type of sugars

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that are processed very slightly differently -

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but the truth is, though, that once it's past your mouth

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and past your stomach and it's in your intestines, it's not

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treated any differently than sugar that might be in milk chocolate.

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Ian's advice for Yvonne isn't simply to swap one

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kind of sugar for another, as she has effectively done by switching

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to honey, but to reduce her taste for sweet foods altogether.

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So less is more?

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Absolutely.

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I think that's the key, getting used to food that's less sweet.

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So there is no need for Yvonne to turn her back on honey altogether.

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But armed with Ian's advice, she's planning to change

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the way that she sweetens her food in the future.

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I'm really surprised about the little difference

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between processed white sugar and honey.

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I'm certainly going to use less.

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I'm certainly not going to pay for the very, very expensive.

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I'm going to be very careful, but cut down.

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Wensleydale cheese from Wensleydale.

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Melton Mowbray pork pies from Melton Mowbray.

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And traditional Cumberland sausage from...

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Well, you've got the picture.

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All part and parcel of our food heritage.

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And to some people, that's worth a lot.

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I think buying British is important.

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We should support local producers and local suppliers

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rather than importing the food that we grow in this country.

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I just think it's better to buy local.

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I mean, if I can support the local farmers or whatever,

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that's what I like to do.

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I think it supports our economy.

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And not only that, I think the food is better.

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You know where the quality is coming from.

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So I do prefer buying British, yeah.

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Some of the best of this British food has been able to obtain

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what's called geographically protected status.

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That means, under EU law, it can only be sold using a particular name

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if it meets certain requirements.

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Most often that it's been produced in the area where that

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specific product first came from, using a very particular method.

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Examples of these could include a Melton Mowbray pork pie

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or for many, a big favourite, the Cornish pasty.

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But what about the food producers

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living outside these geographical areas?

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They may have been making exactly the same products for generations,

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but now because of EU laws,

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they will no longer be able to call them the same thing.

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So why, if essentially they are the same no matter where

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they are made, does it really matter where they actually come from?

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That's very much the view of the dairy farmer Mark Hardy.

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He's in the business of making cheese.

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Not, however, one typical of West Sussex, where he farms,

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but halloumi, more commonly associated with Cyprus.

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So, Mark, for me

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it's always fascinating to come into the hub of everything.

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He's been making it for 25 years,

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and he used to produce feta cheese as well

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until in 2002, the European Union gave that crumbly favourite

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a protected designation of origin, or a PDO for short.

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It meant that to be called feta the cheese has to be made in Greece.

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What was your reaction

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when you heard that you couldn't call feta feta any more?

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Well, I was obviously annoyed cos it's a part of our business.

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But we just carried on, really.

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We renamed the cheese Mediterranean sheep's milk cheese -

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Mediterranean-style sheep's cheese.

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Cos you can't use anything that sounds like feta in feta.

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We still sell quite a lot of it but it's not one of our major cheeses.

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And now Mark's halloumi is under threat as well.

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The UK currently represents the biggest market

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for halloumi cheese in Europe

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and Mark is one of a handful of producers in this country.

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But that could all change

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if an application by Cyprus to restrict the use of the name

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halloumi to only cheese made in that country goes through.

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What's the current situation?

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Currently, the EU are discussing it and working out

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whether they are going to let it through or not.

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It's a period of consultation and any company, such as us,

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who have been making cheese,

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we've all put in a written application to the EU stating

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our case and why halloumi shouldn't be a protected cheese.

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One of the reasons Mark has objected is that, just like feta,

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halloumi isn't the name of a place but a type of cheese.

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But despite that, for anyone producing halloumi outside Cyprus,

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there's an added geographical spanner in the works.

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And it's all to do with ingredients.

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Some protected products, for example, the Cornish pasty,

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can have their ingredients sourced from anywhere in the world,

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as long as the product is simply assembled in Cornwall

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and follows the designated set method.

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But the specific type of protection Cyprus has applied for

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means that the key ingredients in the cheese

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would have to be from that country as well.

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So no matter how authentic his method of production,

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if the application is agreed, without upping sticks

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and moving his farm to Cyprus and sourcing his ingredients

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from there, Mark simply won't be allowed to call his cheese halloumi.

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How much do you think it will affect you?

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If you go to a supermarket and say,

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"Buy our halloumi cheese, it's not called halloumi,"

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people won't recognise it. They won't buy it.

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So is it a big worry for you?

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It's a worry. 25% of the cheese we make is halloumi cheese.

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If we can't call it halloumi, it's bound to affect our business.

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We employ 12 people here. It's bound to affect them.

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Now, of course, there are many businesses in the UK

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that have benefited from protected status,

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which is why so many people and the authorities

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so eagerly get behind British products seeking such recognition.

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And some experts are enthusiastic supporters of the scheme as well

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because it provides an assurance of trust in a product

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that has tradition behind it.

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I would take the view that protective foods names,

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broadly speaking, are a good thing.

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They are good for the consumer because

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if the consumer wants to buy a specific food

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which is made in a defined place, they have the guarantee that

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what they are buying is an authentic product

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if it's a protected food name.

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I think one of the reasons for the halloumi application

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is that it unites both the Greek and Turkish aspects of Cyprus.

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I mean, food often brings people together.

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And in this example,

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the act of actually formulating the protected food name together

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is an example of two disparate sides with disparate cultures

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actually collaborating for a change.

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With the date for a decision unclear,

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Mark remains on tenterhooks as to what it will mean for his business.

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So to see what potential customers think, he has set up a stall

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with his halloumi and a Cypriot one from the local supermarket

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to try and find out

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whether passing shoppers can tell any difference between the two.

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-Would you like to try some cheese?

-Yes, please.

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How bothered with people be

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whether the cheese is made in Cyprus or in Sussex?

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Can you taste any difference?

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-This one.

-Yeah, I like that one.

-Lovely and creamy.

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This is the halloumi that we make

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and this one comes all the way from Cyprus.

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I think the second one. To be honest, there's not a lot in that.

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I mean, they are both nice. But I think I prefer the first one.

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I'm the same. I think I prefer the first one.

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Of the nine people who tasted both cheeses,

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seven preferred Mark's halloumi.

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But would they still buy it if it wasn't allowed to call itself that

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and the one they didn't like as much had the rights to the name?

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Would it bother you if we weren't allowed

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to call our halloumi halloumi?

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-No.

-Tastes good. So...

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-It's about the taste, not about the names.

-Yeah.

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You should call it I Can't Believe It's Not Halloumi.

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MARK LAUGHS

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The EU passed around 62 of these applications in 2015,

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agreeing protected status for products such as

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a boiled Tuscan sausage,

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a specialist veal from a region of Spain,

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and purple and white asparagus from France.

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But some applications didn't get this far.

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Jersey butter, for example, was rejected as it was judged

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that its character came from Jersey cows rather than the island itself.

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And Lincolnshire sausages failed to get protected food name status

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partly because other butchers complained

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that there was no evidence

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that the recipe originated in Lincolnshire.

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But for Mark, until the EU makes a decision on halloumi,

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the fate of a big part of his business hangs in the balance.

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And for now, I'm afraid all he can do is wait.

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It is very frustrating. It can happen just like that.

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And it's totally out of your control.

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I'd like to think they'd stick with us,

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if they think it's nicer than the imported halloumi.

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Well, as we've said many times before, it's amazing what you

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find out when you read the full ingredients of the products we buy.

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Because when you just look at the name or

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the description on the front, you can

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make assumptions that may not be entirely correct, to put it mildly.

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Exactly. But it's important to point out that none of the products that

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we've talked about today are in any way hiding what they've got in them.

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But unless you are right across the full details of all

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the ingredients, it is very easy to leap to

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conclusions about some of the things that we eat and drink.

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And when we find out that we are wrong, well,

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then it's too easy to think that perhaps we've been short changed

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when in fact, that may not be the case at all.

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We'll be back to answer more of your questions

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and problems very soon. Until the next time we are together,

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thank you very much for your company.

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-From all of us, bye-bye.

-Bye-bye.

-Bye.

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