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There's a lot we don't know about the food on our plates. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
And the shops and the labels don't always tell you the whole story. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
Sometimes when you have these offers on in the supermarket, | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
you think you're getting a good deal. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
But if you're actually throwing it away it's not a good deal. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
Whether you're staying in or going out, you've told us you can | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
feel ripped off by the promises made for what you eat. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
And what you pay for it. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
What really winds me up, I suppose, | 0:00:25 | 0:00:26 | |
is the price of so-called healthy food | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
compared with the unhealthy stuff. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
The unhealthy stuff seems to be so much cheaper. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
From claims that don't stack up to the secrets behind the packaging, | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
we'll uncover the truth about Britain's food | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
so you can be sure you're getting what you expect, at the right price. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
Your food, your money, this is Rip-Off Britain. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:49 | |
Hello, and welcome to Rip-Off Britain | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
where once again, we're lifting the lid on | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
what you need to know about food. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
And today, we're exposing the secrets of | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
some everyday favourites that perhaps you haven't really | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
given a second thought to. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
But after you've seen today's programme, I bet you will. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
And that's because a number of you have asked us | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
to take a much closer look at some well-known foods that may not | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
be everything that you've assumed. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
At least when it comes to what's inside them. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
And of course, a few of the products that you've contacted us | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
about may cost a little more than some of the cheaper alternatives. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
So we'll be trying to find out what you're actually getting | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
to justify paying the extra money. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
So, as we get to the bottom of whether you really do always | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
get what you pay for, | 0:01:32 | 0:01:33 | |
hopefully you'll pick up a few tips that may well save you some money. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
Coming up... | 0:01:38 | 0:01:39 | |
Why the rules that protect a Cornish pasty could put | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
this cheesemaker out of business. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
It is very frustrating. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
It can happen just like that and it's totally out of your control. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
So, so, it's a difficult thing to get used to. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
And have you switched sugar for honey? | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
Find out if it's really any better for you. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
A lot of people use honey in favour of sugar cos | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
they think it's a lot better. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
Honey does have some nutritional value to it, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
but it's not as great as people tend to think. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
After spending decades in the culinary | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
and nutritional wilderness, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
copping the blame for everything from heart disease to | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
high cholesterol, many people are delighted to say that butter | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
is back on the menu. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:24 | |
And being honest, in our house it never really went away. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
But when is butter not quite butter? | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
That's the question one viewer asked after noticing what | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
he thought was the real deal was actually nothing of the kind. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
And he wanted to find out why. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
Ah, butter. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
It's natural, tastes great, and for generations, | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
was a staple of every family kitchen. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
From our morning toast to our tea-time cakes... | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
Here you are. It's butter too. Real butter. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
Mm. Wonderful. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:56 | |
Only butter tastes like butter. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
But as the health-conscious 1980s dawned, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
butter went firmly out of fashion, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
as the saturated fat it contained was linked to heart disease. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
For years we had a love affair. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
Then we found out the butter we loved had cholesterol. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
We were all told that not only was modern margarine | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
better for us, but it would spread straight from the fridge as well. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
But over the years, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:26 | |
butter has battled its way back into our hearts. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
And in 2015, the original warnings made about it were found | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
to have been based on flawed data, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
therefore cementing its place in our hearts once and for all. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
And by now, a range of new products sought to prove that you could | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
still get that buttery taste and spread it straight from the fridge. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
They look like butter. Their names sound like they are butter. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
But they are not. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:50 | |
Rip-Off Britain viewer John Lomax from Preston wasn't happy | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
when he realised that that was the case with the one that he'd bought. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
I thought, "Oh, butter." | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
But when I looked at the list of ingredients | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
I found that it only has about 20% butter content. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:09 | |
And that shocked me. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
Although John had assumed from the name it was butter, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
Tesco's Butterpak only contains 26% of butter. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
The rest is mainly oils and water. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
I thought that they couldn't do that. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
They are pulling the wool over our eyes. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
In fact, Tesco isn't pulling the wool over anybody's eyes. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
The store didn't comment on John's concern but its Butterpak is | 0:04:33 | 0:04:38 | |
clearly labelled as a spread and not as a butter. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
And spreads don't need to contain as much butter as the real thing. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:46 | |
The law says that true butter | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
has to contain between 80% and 90% milk fat. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
So when it comes to buying spreads or butter, always check the label | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
as spreads only usually contain butter as one of the ingredients. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
But when you have spreads being produced by some of the best-known | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
butter manufacturers, often under the same name | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
and with their buttery taste being the main selling point, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
it's easy for the shopper to get very confused. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
So would you know how much butter | 0:05:13 | 0:05:14 | |
some of the best known spreads contain? | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
Let's have a bit of a guessing game, then. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
Here we have Anchor. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:21 | |
Which is a very popular-selling one. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
-I'd say 80%. -80%. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
-54%. -Is it? -54. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
And this one? | 0:05:28 | 0:05:29 | |
-60. -26. -My goodness! | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
-I use that one. -You do? OK, you like the taste? | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
I like proper butter. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
Would you be surprised then to know that only 64% of butter? | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
..butter, is it? Yeah. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:43 | |
I knew it wasn't all butter because when you get the blocks, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
-you can't spread them in winter. -No, it's true. -Mm. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
What do you think that one would be? | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
-Butter. -Butter. -Mostly butter. -Mostly butter? OK. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
-In actual fact, it's only 33%. -Oh, right. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
-So are you surprised at that? -Yes, I am. -Yeah. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
We contacted some of the brand leaders | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
in the world of buttery spreads. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
Arla Foods, which makes the spreadable versions of Lurpak | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
and Anchor, told us that its packs are clearly labelled and are... | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
And the makers of Clover and I Can't Believe It's Not Butter both | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
said that their products are lower in saturated fat than butter | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
while maintaining a buttery taste. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
While their butter content clearly varies, John wants to find out how | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
else these spreads differ from both the real thing and indeed margarine. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:39 | |
So we've brought him to Huddersfield University | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
to meet research scientist Dr Laura Waters. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
So, butter is a really simple product. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
It's literally just butterfat and water. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
It's as simple as you can get. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:53 | |
If you go to the margarines, they would be vegetable oil based. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
And the spreads, they would tend to be oil and butter mixtures. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
They would have a lot less butter in them. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
How can you make butter more spreadable? | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
You can make your own spreadable butter. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
The way that industry does it is it adds in oils. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
It will add in some water. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
And because of that, it will also add other ingredients as well. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
So it'd need to add some emulsifier, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:17 | |
which keeps the oil and water mixed together. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
Industry may also add things such as preservatives, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
to extend the shelf-life, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:24 | |
colourings and flavourings. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
-Would you like me to show you how to make spreadable butter? -Yes, please. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
If you're going for the, say, 60% butter option, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
obviously it's going to be 60% butter and 40% oil. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:40 | |
So, we have 60g of butter in there. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
To this we're going to add 40 of oil. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
And you simply mix the two together. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
Now, it may look at this stage like liquid rather than a solid. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
Once you've cooled this down in the fridge, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
then it will return to a more butter-like consistency | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
that you might expect. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
Dr Waters is making up two different types of spreadable butter | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
for us to put to the test. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
One was 60% butter, similar to some of the brand-leading spreadables. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:17 | |
And one with 25%, around the same amount as the Butterpak | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
that John bought. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:22 | |
And we're going to see how they fare | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
in one of the toughest tests of all - baking a cake. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
We've set up our own buttery bake-off | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
and we've asked these enthusiastic bakers from Huddersfield | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
to create their meanest Victoria sponge. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
Each will use one of four different ingredients - | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
the two spreads Dr Waters has just made, a real butter, | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
and a margarine. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
Now, our bakers have no idea which they've been given. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
But Irene here is cooking with full butter. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
It feels like the butter I use actually when I'm baking at home. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
Megan is using a simple baking spread, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
an off-the-shelf margarine that contains no pure butter whatsoever. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:04 | |
Kaye has Dr Waters' 60% butter spread. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
And Lucy has Dr Waters' 25% butter spread. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
It's a lot easier to whisk than theirs | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
so I've got that going for it. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:15 | |
So, ingredients beaten, battered, baked, cooled and decorated. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:25 | |
It's time to add some real heat for our bakers | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
as these discerning staff and students arrive | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
to judge their culinary creations. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
It's a funny consistency, isn't it? | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
There's something about the sponge that just doesn't sit right. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
Needs a bit more sugar. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
I think it needs to be sweeter. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
So, question is, which spread came out best in our test? | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
Most popular with our volunteers was the one made with margarine. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
Five of them went for that one. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
Two preferred the taste of the cake | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
made with Dr Waters' 60% butter spread. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
And one plumped for the one made with 25% butter. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
But none of them chose the cake made with pure butter. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
I'm quite surprised this was made with 25% butter spread. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
I'd consider using it myself. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
The sponge was very nice. I thought it was perfect, in my opinion. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
I'm not surprised it's made from margarine. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
-Yeah. -I agree, yeah. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
So there you go. Top marks for margarine on the baking. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
But all of this still leaves John with one crucial question. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
We've been hearing over the past few years that butter's | 0:10:32 | 0:10:37 | |
good for you, butter's not good for you, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
margarine is good for you, and margarine isn't. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
Which is good, which is bad? | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
There are lots of studies which seem to say that the saturated fat, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
so things such as the butter, they're not so good for you. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
They can cause cardiovascular disease, | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
they can cause types of cancer, that sort of thing. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
However, there are also lots of other studies | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
on the unsaturated fats, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
so that's the oil-based products, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:01 | |
which say they're not so good for you either. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
This is especially true if you're cooking with one of these products. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
So, because there are studies for both sides, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
I would say just keep it in moderation, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
go for the one you prefer, and if you don't have too much | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
of either of them, then you should be fine. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
But for John, there's no doubt which one he prefers. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
Butter. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:22 | |
The taste is so much better. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
I know it's personal preference | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
but at least I know what has gone into the product. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
Now, there are some products where the difference between | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
the cheapest and the most expensive on the supermarket shelves | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
can be explained purely by the quality of the ingredients. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
In other words, you're getting what you pay for. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
But we've been contacted by one viewer who wanted to know when that | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
explanation still stands for the staple of her diet, which is honey. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:57 | |
Now, the priciest jars can cost as much as ten times more | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
than the most affordable. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
So how much do they actually vary in quality? | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
Should you stick with the cheaper pots? | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
Or is it actually worth paying just that little bit extra? | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
British shoppers now spend more on honey than on jam - | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
a whopping £119 million last year. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
And it's a trend which some people put down to | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
people switching from using sugar, | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
which is certainly what Rip-Off Britain viewer | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
Yvonne Sayer has done. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
But Yvonne wrote to us wondering why there is such a huge price gap | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
between the cheapest and the most expensive varieties on sale. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:38 | |
I want to know, what is the difference between £1 jar | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
of honey and a more expensive jar of £15 and even more? | 0:12:42 | 0:12:48 | |
The cheapest honey on sale in British supermarkets | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
typically sells for around £1. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
Then there is the mid-range of honeys costing between £2 and £4. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
And at the top end, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
specialist honeys, like Manuka, can sell for up to £100 a jar. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:06 | |
So what is the difference? | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
Well, to help answer Yvonne's question, I've come to meet | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
David Wainwright, President of the National Bee Farmers Association, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
at his farm in Aberystwyth. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
-Hi, David. -Hello. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
-Nice to see you. -Nice to meet you. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
So are we going to go out and see your hives, are we? | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
David's farm yields about 25 tonnes of honey a year. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
This might sound like a lot, but actually, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
British bees are only producing a fraction of all | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
the honey that we consume in this country every year. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
It's other countries like China, Russia, Argentina, Mexico, | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
who are the big honey producers. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
But David says he prefers the taste of British honey. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
We produce a lot of different varieties. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
And all these varieties of honey have got a unique flavour | 0:13:46 | 0:13:51 | |
and characteristics to them. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
Because they are produced from a different plant | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
and that plant contributes slightly different flavours | 0:13:55 | 0:14:00 | |
and sugars to the nectar which the bees make the honey out of. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
To show me just how varied honey flavours can be, David is | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
putting my taste buds to the test with four very different types. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:15 | |
We've got English, French, Ethiopian and Welsh. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
This is the English one. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
That's from Salisbury Plain. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
-And that's got a cinnamon type of flavour to it. -Mm! | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
-This is the French one. -That's French lavender | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
which comes from the lavender fields in the South of France. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
A bit earthy, actually. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
Ethiopian. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:34 | |
This is from the rainforest in the south-west of Ethiopia. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
-Mm-hm. -It comes from a large forest tree. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
-It's quite sort of sweet and light. -Yeah. -Yeah. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
And this one is the Welsh one. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
-This is the Welsh one, gathered from hives around here. -Right. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
So this is from blackberry, willow herb, clover. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
Mm! | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
Oh, yes! | 0:14:53 | 0:14:54 | |
-I can taste the flowers. -Yeah. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
Much like fine wine, it's these rich regional variations that give | 0:14:59 | 0:15:04 | |
pure honey its distinctive taste, which stands it apart | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
from the cheaper, processed jars in the supermarket. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
These mass-produced jars contain a mix of honeys | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
blended together from different sources. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
To show just how that affects the taste, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
David has blended together the pure honeys that I just tasted. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
What happens if we mix these four different types with | 0:15:22 | 0:15:27 | |
all their individual flavours? | 0:15:27 | 0:15:28 | |
What happens if we mix them all together? | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
Do the flavours sort of counteract one another | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
or can you still taste them? | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
What else comes out? Yeah. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:36 | |
And it quickly becomes clear that | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
all those subtleties in taste have gone, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
replaced instead by a perfectly pleasant | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
but much more middle-of-the-road flavour. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
It's sweet. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
I can't any longer taste that distinctive floral that | 0:15:52 | 0:15:57 | |
I got from the Welsh or the lavender that I got from the French one. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:02 | |
It's very pleasant. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
But it doesn't have a distinctive taste | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
-as they did when they were separate. -Yes. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
And of course, that's what's happening with the cheaper | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
-varieties of honey, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:14 | |
You are not going for a specific flavour, you are just going | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
for honey, but not one that you can distinguish from anything else. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
That's right. That's exactly it, yeah. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:23 | |
I think you've invented a new honey, David. HE LAUGHS | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
The increase in sales of honey has been linked to consumers | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
wanting to replace sugar in their diet. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
Like Rip-Off Britain viewer Yvonne. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
But she wants to know, was she right to switch? | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
I changed from sugar to honey | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
thinking it was better for me. Is it? | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
Yvonne says she buys three jars of honey a month | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
and uses it in place of sugar, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:50 | |
normally spending about £1.50 on a jar | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
that will typically last her between one and two weeks. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
She wants to know whether that's money well spent | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
and whether it really is better for her than plain old sugar. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
To find out, we brought Yvonne to meet nutritionist Ian Marber. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
I wanted to know the nutritional value, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
the difference between sugar and honey. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
A lot of people use honey in favour of sugar | 0:17:15 | 0:17:16 | |
because they think it's a lot better. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
Honey does have some nutritional value to it | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
but it's not as great as people tend to think. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
-You might put it in some tea, for instance. -Yeah. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
-So you put like a tablespoon in or a teaspoon? -Oh, no. No, no. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
-A teaspoon. -A teaspoon is very interesting because that teaspoon, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
which is that amount, is actually going to have 10g of sugar in it, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:36 | |
which is actually the same amount of sugar that you're going to find | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
in four squares of milk chocolate. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
And Ian reckons that honey's reputation for being | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
rich in vitamins and minerals is also a bit of a myth. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
This is a tablespoon of honey, 21g. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
And in that you've only actually got 1.3mg, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
not grams, 1.3mg of calcium. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
-OK? So it's not a huge amount of minerals in there. -No. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
To give you an example, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:03 | |
there is 210mg of calcium in an ounce of Cheddar. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
Some of the expensive honeys will have more vitamins | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
and more minerals in them. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:11 | |
But because there is a halo of health around foods like honey, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
we are likely to eat more in one go. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
We actually tend to use more of it because we think it's better for us. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
The problem is that it's still rich in sugars - | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
a different type of sugars | 0:18:24 | 0:18:25 | |
that are processed very slightly differently - | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
but the truth is, though, that once it's past your mouth | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
and past your stomach and it's in your intestines, it's not | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
treated any differently than sugar that might be in milk chocolate. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
Ian's advice for Yvonne isn't simply to swap one | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
kind of sugar for another, as she has effectively done by switching | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
to honey, but to reduce her taste for sweet foods altogether. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
So less is more? | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
Absolutely. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:49 | |
I think that's the key, getting used to food that's less sweet. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
So there is no need for Yvonne to turn her back on honey altogether. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
But armed with Ian's advice, she's planning to change | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
the way that she sweetens her food in the future. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
I'm really surprised about the little difference | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
between processed white sugar and honey. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
I'm certainly going to use less. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
I'm certainly not going to pay for the very, very expensive. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:18 | |
I'm going to be very careful, but cut down. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
Wensleydale cheese from Wensleydale. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
Melton Mowbray pork pies from Melton Mowbray. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
And traditional Cumberland sausage from... | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
Well, you've got the picture. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
All part and parcel of our food heritage. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
And to some people, that's worth a lot. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
I think buying British is important. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
We should support local producers and local suppliers | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
rather than importing the food that we grow in this country. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
I just think it's better to buy local. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
I mean, if I can support the local farmers or whatever, | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
that's what I like to do. | 0:19:58 | 0:19:59 | |
I think it supports our economy. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
And not only that, I think the food is better. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
You know where the quality is coming from. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
So I do prefer buying British, yeah. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
Some of the best of this British food has been able to obtain | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
what's called geographically protected status. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
That means, under EU law, it can only be sold using a particular name | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
if it meets certain requirements. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
Most often that it's been produced in the area where that | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
specific product first came from, using a very particular method. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
Examples of these could include a Melton Mowbray pork pie | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
or for many, a big favourite, the Cornish pasty. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
But what about the food producers | 0:20:35 | 0:20:36 | |
living outside these geographical areas? | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
They may have been making exactly the same products for generations, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
but now because of EU laws, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:44 | |
they will no longer be able to call them the same thing. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
So why, if essentially they are the same no matter where | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
they are made, does it really matter where they actually come from? | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
That's very much the view of the dairy farmer Mark Hardy. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
He's in the business of making cheese. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
Not, however, one typical of West Sussex, where he farms, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
but halloumi, more commonly associated with Cyprus. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
So, Mark, for me | 0:21:11 | 0:21:12 | |
it's always fascinating to come into the hub of everything. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
He's been making it for 25 years, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
and he used to produce feta cheese as well | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
until in 2002, the European Union gave that crumbly favourite | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
a protected designation of origin, or a PDO for short. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:28 | |
It meant that to be called feta the cheese has to be made in Greece. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
What was your reaction | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
when you heard that you couldn't call feta feta any more? | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
Well, I was obviously annoyed cos it's a part of our business. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
But we just carried on, really. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:41 | |
We renamed the cheese Mediterranean sheep's milk cheese - | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
Mediterranean-style sheep's cheese. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
Cos you can't use anything that sounds like feta in feta. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
We still sell quite a lot of it but it's not one of our major cheeses. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:54 | |
And now Mark's halloumi is under threat as well. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
The UK currently represents the biggest market | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
for halloumi cheese in Europe | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
and Mark is one of a handful of producers in this country. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
But that could all change | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
if an application by Cyprus to restrict the use of the name | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
halloumi to only cheese made in that country goes through. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
What's the current situation? | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
Currently, the EU are discussing it and working out | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
whether they are going to let it through or not. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
It's a period of consultation and any company, such as us, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
who have been making cheese, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
we've all put in a written application to the EU stating | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
our case and why halloumi shouldn't be a protected cheese. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:37 | |
One of the reasons Mark has objected is that, just like feta, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
halloumi isn't the name of a place but a type of cheese. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:47 | |
But despite that, for anyone producing halloumi outside Cyprus, | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
there's an added geographical spanner in the works. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
And it's all to do with ingredients. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
Some protected products, for example, the Cornish pasty, | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
can have their ingredients sourced from anywhere in the world, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
as long as the product is simply assembled in Cornwall | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
and follows the designated set method. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
But the specific type of protection Cyprus has applied for | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
means that the key ingredients in the cheese | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
would have to be from that country as well. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
So no matter how authentic his method of production, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
if the application is agreed, without upping sticks | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
and moving his farm to Cyprus and sourcing his ingredients | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
from there, Mark simply won't be allowed to call his cheese halloumi. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:33 | |
How much do you think it will affect you? | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
If you go to a supermarket and say, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
"Buy our halloumi cheese, it's not called halloumi," | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
people won't recognise it. They won't buy it. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
So is it a big worry for you? | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
It's a worry. 25% of the cheese we make is halloumi cheese. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
If we can't call it halloumi, it's bound to affect our business. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
We employ 12 people here. It's bound to affect them. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
Now, of course, there are many businesses in the UK | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
that have benefited from protected status, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
which is why so many people and the authorities | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
so eagerly get behind British products seeking such recognition. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
And some experts are enthusiastic supporters of the scheme as well | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
because it provides an assurance of trust in a product | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
that has tradition behind it. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
I would take the view that protective foods names, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
broadly speaking, are a good thing. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
They are good for the consumer because | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
if the consumer wants to buy a specific food | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
which is made in a defined place, they have the guarantee that | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
what they are buying is an authentic product | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
if it's a protected food name. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
I think one of the reasons for the halloumi application | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
is that it unites both the Greek and Turkish aspects of Cyprus. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:45 | |
I mean, food often brings people together. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
And in this example, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
the act of actually formulating the protected food name together | 0:24:50 | 0:24:55 | |
is an example of two disparate sides with disparate cultures | 0:24:55 | 0:25:00 | |
actually collaborating for a change. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
With the date for a decision unclear, | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
Mark remains on tenterhooks as to what it will mean for his business. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
So to see what potential customers think, he has set up a stall | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
with his halloumi and a Cypriot one from the local supermarket | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
to try and find out | 0:25:20 | 0:25:21 | |
whether passing shoppers can tell any difference between the two. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
-Would you like to try some cheese? -Yes, please. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
How bothered with people be | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
whether the cheese is made in Cyprus or in Sussex? | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
Can you taste any difference? | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
-This one. -Yeah, I like that one. -Lovely and creamy. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
This is the halloumi that we make | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
and this one comes all the way from Cyprus. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
I think the second one. To be honest, there's not a lot in that. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
I mean, they are both nice. But I think I prefer the first one. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
I'm the same. I think I prefer the first one. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
Of the nine people who tasted both cheeses, | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
seven preferred Mark's halloumi. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
But would they still buy it if it wasn't allowed to call itself that | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
and the one they didn't like as much had the rights to the name? | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
Would it bother you if we weren't allowed | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
to call our halloumi halloumi? | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
-No. -Tastes good. So... | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
-It's about the taste, not about the names. -Yeah. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
You should call it I Can't Believe It's Not Halloumi. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
MARK LAUGHS | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
The EU passed around 62 of these applications in 2015, | 0:26:27 | 0:26:32 | |
agreeing protected status for products such as | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
a boiled Tuscan sausage, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:36 | |
a specialist veal from a region of Spain, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
and purple and white asparagus from France. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
But some applications didn't get this far. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
Jersey butter, for example, was rejected as it was judged | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
that its character came from Jersey cows rather than the island itself. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
And Lincolnshire sausages failed to get protected food name status | 0:26:52 | 0:26:57 | |
partly because other butchers complained | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
that there was no evidence | 0:26:59 | 0:27:00 | |
that the recipe originated in Lincolnshire. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
But for Mark, until the EU makes a decision on halloumi, | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
the fate of a big part of his business hangs in the balance. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
And for now, I'm afraid all he can do is wait. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
It is very frustrating. It can happen just like that. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
And it's totally out of your control. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
I'd like to think they'd stick with us, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
if they think it's nicer than the imported halloumi. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
Well, as we've said many times before, it's amazing what you | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
find out when you read the full ingredients of the products we buy. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
Because when you just look at the name or | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
the description on the front, you can | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
make assumptions that may not be entirely correct, to put it mildly. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
Exactly. But it's important to point out that none of the products that | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
we've talked about today are in any way hiding what they've got in them. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
But unless you are right across the full details of all | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
the ingredients, it is very easy to leap to | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
conclusions about some of the things that we eat and drink. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
And when we find out that we are wrong, well, | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
then it's too easy to think that perhaps we've been short changed | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
when in fact, that may not be the case at all. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
We'll be back to answer more of your questions | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
and problems very soon. Until the next time we are together, | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
thank you very much for your company. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
-From all of us, bye-bye. -Bye-bye. -Bye. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 |