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There's a lot we don't know about the food on our plates.

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And the shops and the labels don't always tell you the whole story.

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Sometimes when you have these offers on in the supermarket,

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you think you're getting a good deal.

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But if you're actually throwing it away it's not a good deal.

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Whether you're staying in or going out, you've told us you can

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feel ripped off by the promises made for what you eat.

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And what you pay for it.

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What really winds me up, I suppose,

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is the price of so-called healthy food

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compared with the unhealthy stuff.

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The unhealthy stuff seems to be so much cheaper.

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From claims that don't stack up to the secrets behind the packaging,

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we'll uncover the truth about Britain's food

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so you can be sure you're getting what you expect, at the right price.

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Your food, your money, this is Rip-Off Britain.

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Hello, and welcome to Rip-Off Britain

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where once again, we're lifting the lid on

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what you need to know about food.

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And today, we're exposing the secrets of

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some everyday favourites that perhaps you haven't really

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given a second thought to.

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But after you've seen today's programme, I bet you will.

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And that's because a number of you have asked us

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to take a much closer look at some well-known foods that may not

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be everything that you've assumed.

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At least when it comes to what's inside them.

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Now there's absolutely nothing wrong with them,

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but in some cases,

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the ingredients may not always be not only quite what you thought,

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they actually might be rather less of them than you expected.

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And of course, a few of the products that you've contacted us

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about may cost a little more than some of the cheaper alternatives.

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So we'll be trying to find out what you're actually getting

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to justify paying the extra money.

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So, as we get to the bottom of whether you really do always

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get what you pay for,

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hopefully you'll pick up a few tips that may well save you some money.

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Coming up...

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Think you're buying butter?

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Well, you'd better take a much closer look at the label.

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I thought, "Oh, butter." But when I looked at the list of ingredients

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I found that it only has about 20% butter content.

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And that shocked me.

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And have you switched sugar for honey?

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Find out if it's really any better for you.

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A lot of people use honey in favour of sugar cos

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they think it's a lot better.

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Honey does have some nutritional value to it,

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but it's not as great as people tend to think.

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Now, smoothies have rocketed in popularity in recent years, with

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many people seeing them as a quick and easy way to consume more fruit.

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But which fruit?

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Now, you may think it's pretty obvious from the name given

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to the smoothie, be it a banana, mango, blackcurrant or whatever.

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But it may not be that simple.

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One of you wrote to us after noticing that

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when buying one of the popular brands

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that are available in the shops, the fruit that was named

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on the label as the main ingredient may actually be nothing of the kind.

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# Fruit ah-ah

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# Saviour of the universe... #

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Smoothies - a tasty short cut towards getting your five-a-day.

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# Ooh, baby, baby... #

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And a go-to drink for many who want a healthier option.

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'Fruit now boosted with veg, seeds, vitamins and botanicals.'

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And though you may need to keep an eye on how much natural sugar

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is packed inside,

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they're usually considered a step up from plain old fruit juice

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as you'll get more fibre from drinking a smoothie.

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What's more, the exotic-sounding fruits that are listed on the front

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of the bottles mean that if you fancy a taste of the Tropics

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on your lunch break, then these drinks are the way to do it.

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But when our next viewer took a closer look

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at the label on the one that he'd bought,

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he was disappointed to find that his fancy-sounding smoothie

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contained rather more ordinary ingredients than he'd imagined.

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Dave Moore wrote to us from Cambridge when he noticed

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that his smoothie - which has in it pomegranate, blueberries and acai -

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actually contains rather more grape juice and banana than anything else.

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Dave's drink would typically cost around £2 a carton.

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A price he'd been happy to pay for the convenience,

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potential health benefits and, of course, the taste.

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But he wasn't so happy with the discovery that his smoothie

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contained far less of the unusual-sounding ingredients

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that he'd hoped for from the label, and rather more of the comparatively

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run-of-the-mill fruits that he hadn't expected.

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And you can see for yourself.

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Ingredients are always listed in order of what's in there the most.

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So the bulk of this smoothie is actually grapes,

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followed closely by banana.

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The fruit that comes first in the name - pomegranate -

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makes up just 14% of the drink.

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As for the blueberries, they're 3% of the total.

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And the acai which, by the way,

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is a berry often touted as a superfood, is just 0.7%.

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Now, Dave wrote to us

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because he doesn't think that he's getting quite what he paid for.

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But it might not be quite that simple.

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For starters, the composition of other big brand smoothies

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and even juices isn't always what you might have assumed.

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This Naked Red Machine smoothie may seem to be packed with

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strawberries, raspberries and cranberries but in fact,

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the main ingredients are apple juice and orange juice.

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With pureed red fruits between them making up 11.5% of the drink.

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And this Tropicana mango, peach and papaya juice

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contains a total of only 29% of those three fruits.

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Again, it's orange juice and apple juice that are in there the most.

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Like Dave, you might wonder how it is that the main

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ingredients of these drinks aren't the fancier fruits

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that are labelled on the front but the altogether more familiar

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ones that are found listed on the back.

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Well, some of the fruits in his smoothie don't come cheap.

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So is price the explanation?

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-Thanks.

-Thank you.

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Kate Harrison from Shaw in Lancashire

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makes a living out of selling fruit and veg.

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So she knows how much they are likely to cost.

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She compared for us the cost of two of the ingredients

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in the smoothie that Dave bought.

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Starting with the blueberries that make up 3% of the drink.

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So, if we were to take some blueberries...

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They work out about 11.20 per kilo.

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Next, she looked at the fruit that comes just

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ahead of blueberries in the ingredients list. Oranges.

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And it's immediately obvious which comes out cheaper.

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The bulk of the product...

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Say, for example, an orange, which is part of the smoothie.

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That works out about £1.65 per kilo.

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So, looking at the comparisons between the two, the bulk

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of the item is substantially cheaper than the "main stated product."

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So that is nearly £10 difference per kilo.

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So the fruit that makes up the bulk of most smoothies,

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the ingredients of which you'll usually find on either

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the back or the side of most cartons,

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are likely to be a lot more commonplace and certainly cheaper

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than the rather exotic names that you'll find printed on the front.

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And let's face it,

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most of us probably would be prepared to pay just that little bit

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extra for ingredients like pomegranate, blueberries and acai

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rather than common old grape and banana.

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But while the ingredients list on the back of the bottle spells

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this out very clearly,

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Dave isn't alone in wondering

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if what it says on the front of these smoothies

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and blended juices is as clear as it could be.

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-You drink smoothies. BOTH:

-Yes.

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So look at these labels and tell me

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what do you think you're going to be getting in each of these packets.

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-It says it's pure so probably, yeah, probably 100%.

-Yeah.

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-Yeah, I reckon.

-You reckon that in your smoothie you're going to

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get 100% of what it says on the label on the front?

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-I think so.

-That's what I think.

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And how much of those ingredients would you expect to

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be in the cartons?

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Well, one third, one third, one third.

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-29%.

-Oh.

-The rest of it, though, is made up of orange and apple juice.

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Which is shocking. Cos why are they pushing those varieties of fruit?

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On the bottom, it does say that there are other things.

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-And on the back of that one it tells you.

-In smaller text, yeah.

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-You wouldn't look at that?

-No. No. Cos it's on the front.

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You're buying it with your eyes.

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But to put Dave's suspicions at rest,

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no-one is pulling a fast one here.

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And certainly none of these drinks are falling foul of any

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labelling rules or regulations.

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There is no legal definition of what a smoothie should be made up of.

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And provided all the ingredients are listed in the right order,

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manufacturers are perfectly entitled to put whatever

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they like on their labels.

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There are laws that apply to other blended juice drinks, such

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as the Tropicana mango, peach and papaya juice that we saw earlier.

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But even then, as long as all the bulk ingredients are listed

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somewhere on the front of the bottle - no matter how small -

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they too can market their juice under whatever name they like.

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But the issue here isn't really about

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the way a product is described,

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it's how it's made.

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Because that's what explains why the main ingredients aren't

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always what you might think.

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Rhiannon Rees has worked for a number of smoothie manufacturers

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and knows that to get something to sell it's got to taste good.

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If you're trying to sell it and market it commercially,

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it needs to be really cost effective.

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So you need to make sure that you're using delicious ingredients

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but probably in a quantity that's not going to bankrupt you.

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And also making sure that you are still getting that really

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nice flavour balance, getting all of the right ingredients.

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And that balance, not to mention taste, wouldn't be achieved if you

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simply used the fruits that might be mentioned in a product's name.

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To show why, Rhiannon got some volunteers to make

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versions of the exotic sounding smoothies that we looked at before.

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-Is this going in as well, the seeds?

-No, no.

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You want to get rid of the seeds, definitely. Those can be discarded.

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First, they're blending together only the fruits

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listed on the front of the bottle or carton.

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But it becomes clear very quickly that the result isn't

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especially appealing.

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It's thick, lumpy and bitter to taste.

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See, it's almost more of a sort of puree consistency.

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So, in goes the banana, the basis for most smoothies

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because they add a natural sweetness and help with the texture.

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The other smoothies have the orange or apple juice added.

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They have a lot of liquid in them.

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And again, that's not to bulk out the product with cheaper

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ingredients, but to give it the consistency

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and the flavour that it needs.

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Now the consistency is a lot better.

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Without those additions, smoothies just wouldn't taste right.

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They'd be full of the ingredients you might have expected,

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but you'd be less likely to buy them.

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Mm, it's nice.

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When we spoke to the juice and smoothie manufacturers,

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they reiterated that their labels comply with all UK

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and EU labelling regulations.

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Innocent explained that the recipe name on the front

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of its drinks is based on what the smoothie tastes of.

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So the pomegranate, blueberry and acai one is called that...

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The company said there'd be no point adding the word banana to the

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name as the product doesn't taste of banana.

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And, in any case, it's satisfied that its labelling,

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which has been reviewed by independent experts, is clear.

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Innocent went on to stress that it's only by adding the juice and

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banana base that smoothies are more than simply pureed fruit solids.

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And the variety of fruit in both juice and pureed form

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is why they can account for two of your five-a-day.

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And PepsiCo, which makes both Tropicana and Naked juices, told us

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that its products too are named with the dominant fruit flavours in mind.

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It said very strong or sour flavoured fruits,

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like the cranberries used in its Red Machine drink, don't give

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the right flavour or consistency when used in high quantities.

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Instead they're blended with softer flavours.

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So, Dave Moore from Cambridge,

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there's no need for your smoothie to leave a bitter

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taste in the mouth, and hopefully,

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knowing that the cheaper fruit has to be there

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alongside those more expensive flavours

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will make the price a little bit easier to swallow.

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After spending decades in the culinary

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and nutritional wilderness,

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copping the blame for everything from heart disease to

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high cholesterol, many people are delighted to say that butter

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is back on the menu.

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And being honest, in our house it never really went away.

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But when is butter not quite butter?

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That's the question one viewer asked after noticing what

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he thought was the real deal was actually nothing of the kind.

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And he wanted to find out why.

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Ah, butter.

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It's natural, tastes great, and for generations,

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was a staple of every family kitchen.

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From our morning toast to our tea-time cakes...

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Here you are. It's butter too. Real butter.

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Mm. Wonderful.

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Only butter tastes like butter.

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But as the health-conscious 1980s dawned,

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but went firmly out of fashion.

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As the saturated fat it contained was linked to heart disease.

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For years we had a love affair.

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Then we found out the butter we loved had cholesterol.

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We were all told that not only was modern margarine

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better for us, but it would spread straight from the fridge as well.

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But over the years,

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butter has battled its way back into our hearts.

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And in 2015, the original warnings made about it were found

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to have been based on flawed data.

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Therefore cementing its place in our hearts once and for all.

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And by now, a range of new products sought to prove that you could

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still get that buttery taste and spread it straight from the fridge.

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They look like butter. Their names sound like they are butter.

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But they are not.

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Rip-Off Britain viewer John Lomax from Preston wasn't happy

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when he realised that that was the case with the one that he'd bought.

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I thought, "Oh, butter."

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But when I looked at the list of ingredients

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I found that it only has about 20% butter content.

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And that shocked me.

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Although John had assumed from the name it was butter,

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Tesco's Butterpak only contains 26% of butter.

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The rest is mainly oils and water.

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I thought that they couldn't do that.

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They are pulling the wool over our eyes.

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In fact, Tesco isn't pulling the wool over anybody's eyes.

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The store didn't comment on John's concern but its Butterpak is

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clearly labelled as a spread and not as a butter.

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And spreads don't need to contain as much butter as the real thing.

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The law says that true butter

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has to contain between 80% and 90% milk fat.

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So when it comes to buying spreads or butter, always check the label

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as spreads only usually contain butter as one of the ingredients.

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But when you have spreads being produced by some of the best-known

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butter manufacturers, often under the same name

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and with their buttery taste being the main selling point,

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it's easy for the shopper to get very confused.

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So would you know how much butter

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some of the best known spreads contain?

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Let's have a bit of a guessing game then.

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Here we have Anchor.

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Which is a very popular-selling one.

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-I'd say 80%.

-80%.

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-54%.

-Is it?

-54.

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And this one?

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-60.

-26.

-My goodness!

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-I use that one.

-You do? OK, you like the taste?

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I like proper butter.

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Would you be surprised then to know that only 64% of butter?

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..butter, is it? Yeah.

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I knew it wasn't all butter because when you get the blocks,

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-you can't spread them in winter.

-No, it's true.

-Mm.

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What do you think that one would be?

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-Butter.

-Butter.

-Mostly butter.

-Mostly butter? OK.

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-In actual fact, it's only 33%.

-Oh, right.

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-So are you surprised at that?

-Yes, I am.

-Yeah.

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We contacted some of the brand leaders

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in the world of buttery spreads.

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Arla Foods, which makes the spreadable versions of Lurpak

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and Anchor, told us that its packs are clearly labelled and are...

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And the makers of Clover and I Can't Believe It's Not Butter both

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said that their products are lower in saturated fat than butter

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while maintaining a buttery taste.

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While their butter content clearly varies, John wants to find out how

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else these spreads differ from both the real thing and indeed margarine.

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So we've brought him to Huddersfield University

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to meet research scientist Dr Laura Waters.

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So, butter is a really simple product.

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It's literally just butterfat and water.

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It's as simple as you can get.

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If you go to the margarines, they would be vegetable oil based.

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And the spreads, they would tend to be oil and butter mixtures.

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They would have a lot less butter in them.

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How can you make butter more spreadable?

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You can make your own spreadable butter.

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The way that industry does it is it adds in oils.

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It will add in some water.

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And because of that, it will also add other ingredients as well.

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So it'd need to add some emulsifier,

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which keeps the oil and water mixed together.

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Industry may also add things such as preservatives,

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to extend the shelf-life,

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colourings and flavourings.

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-Would you like me to show you how to make spreadable butter?

-Yes, please.

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If you're going for the, say, 60% butter option,

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obviously it's going to be 60% butter and 40% oil.

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So, we have 60g of butter in there.

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To this we're going to add 40 of oil.

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And you simply mix the two together.

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Now, it may look at this stage like liquid rather than a solid.

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Once you've cooled this down in the fridge,

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then it will return to a more butter-like consistency

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that you might expect.

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Dr Waters is making up two different types of spreadable butter

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for us to put to the test.

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One was 60% butter, similar to some of the brand-leading spreadables.

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And one with 25%, around the same amount as the Butterpak

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that John bought.

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And we're going to see how they fare

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in one of the toughest tests of all - baking a cake.

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We've set up our own buttery bake-off

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and we've asked these enthusiastic bakers from Huddersfield

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to create their meanest Victoria sponge.

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Each will use one of four different ingredients.

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The two spreads Dr Waters has just made, a real butter,

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and a margarine.

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Now, our bakers have no idea which they've been given.

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But Irene here is cooking with full butter.

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It feels like the butter I use actually when I'm baking at home.

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Megan is using a simple baking spread,

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an off-the-shelf margarine that contains no pure butter whatsoever.

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Kaye has Dr Waters' 60% butter spread.

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And Lucy has Dr Waters' 25% butter spread.

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It's a lot easier to whisk than theirs

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so I've got that going for it.

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So, ingredients beaten, battered, baked, cooled and decorated.

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It's time to add some real heat for our bakers

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as these discerning staff and students arrive

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to judge their culinary creations.

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It's a funny consistency, isn't it?

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There's something about the sponge that just doesn't sit right.

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Needs a bit more sugar.

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I think it needs to be sweeter.

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So, question is, which spread came out best in our test?

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Most popular with our volunteers was the one made with margarine.

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Five of them went for that one.

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Two preferred the taste of the cake

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made with Dr Waters' 60% butter spread.

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And one plumped for the one made with 25% butter.

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But none of them chose the cake made with pure butter.

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I'm quite surprised this was made with 25% butter spread.

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I'd consider using it myself.

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The sponge was very nice. I thought it was perfect, in my opinion.

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I'm not surprised it's made from margarine.

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-Yeah.

-I agree, yeah.

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So there you go. Top marks for margarine on the baking.

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But all of this still leaves John with one crucial question.

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We've been hearing over the past few years that butter's

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good for you, butter's not good for you,

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margarine is good for you, and margarine isn't.

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Which is good, which is bad?

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There are lots of studies which seem to say that the saturated fat,

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so things such as the butter, they're not so good for you.

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They can cause cardiovascular disease,

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they can cause types of cancer, that sort of thing.

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However, there are also lots of other studies

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on the unsaturated fats,

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so that's the oil-based products,

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which say they're not so good for you either.

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This is especially true if you're cooking with one of these products.

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So, because there are studies for both sides,

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I would say just keep it in moderation,

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go for the one you prefer, and if you don't have too much

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of either of them, then you should be fine.

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But for John, there's no doubt which one he prefers.

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Butter.

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The taste is so much better.

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I know it's personal preference

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but at least I know what has gone into the product.

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Still to come on Rip-Off Britain...

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Why the rules that protect a Cornish pasty

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could put this cheese-maker out of business.

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It is very frustrating.

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It can happen just like that,

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and it's totally out of your control.

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So...so, it's a difficult thing to get used to.

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Now, there are some products where the difference between

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the cheapest and the most expensive on the supermarket shelves

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can be explained purely by the quality of the ingredients.

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In other words, you're getting what you pay for.

0:22:050:22:08

But we've been contacted by one viewer who wanted to know when that

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explanation still stands for the staple of her diet, which is honey.

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Now, the priciest jars can cost as much as ten times more

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than the most affordable.

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So how much do they actually vary in quality?

0:22:220:22:25

Should you stick with the cheaper pots?

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Or is it actually worth paying just that little bit extra?

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British shoppers now spend more on honey than on jam.

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A whopping £119 million last year.

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And it's a trend which some people put down to

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people switching from using sugar.

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Which is certainly what Rip-Off Britain viewer

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Yvonne Sayer has done.

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But Yvonne wrote to us wondering why there is such a huge price gap

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between the cheapest and the most expensive varieties on sale.

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I want to know, what is the difference between £1 jar

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of honey and a more expensive jar of £15 and even more?

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The cheapest honey on sale in British supermarkets

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typically sells for around £1.

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Then there is the mid-range of honeys costing between £2 and £4.

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And at the top end,

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specialist honeys, like Manuka, can sell for up to £100 a jar.

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So what is the difference?

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Well, to help answer Yvonne's question, I've come to meet

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David Wainwright, President of the National Bee Farmers Association,

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at his farm in Aberystwyth.

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-Hi, David.

-Hello.

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-Nice to see you.

-Nice to meet you.

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So are we going to go out and see your hives, are we?

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David's farm yields about 25 tonnes of honey a year.

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This might sound like a lot, but actually,

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British bees are only producing a fraction of all

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the honey that we consume in this country every year.

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It's other countries like China, Russia, Argentina, Mexico

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who are the big honey producers.

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But David says he prefers the taste of British honey.

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We produce a lot of different varieties.

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And all these varieties of honey have got a unique flavour

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and characteristics to them.

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Because they are produced from a different plant

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and that plant contributes slightly different flavours

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and sugars to the nectar which the bees make the honey out of.

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To show me just how varied honey flavours can be, David is

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putting my taste buds to the test with four very different types.

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We've got English, French, Ethiopian and Welsh.

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This is the English one.

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That's from Salisbury Plain.

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-And that's got a cinnamon type of flavour to it.

-Mm!

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-This is the French one.

-That's French lavender

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which comes from the lavender fields in the South of France.

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A bit earthy, actually.

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Ethiopian.

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This is from the rainforest in the south-west of Ethiopia.

0:24:540:24:57

-Mm-hm.

-It comes from a large forest tree.

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-It's quite sort of sweet and light.

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

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And this one is the Welsh one.

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-This is the Welsh one, gathered from hives around here.

-Right.

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So this is from blackberry, willow herb, clover.

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Mm!

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Oh, yes!

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-I can taste the flowers.

-Yeah.

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Much like fine wine, it's these rich regional variations that give

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pure honey its distinctive taste.

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Which stands it apart

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from the cheaper, processed jars in the supermarket.

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These mass produced jars contain a mix of honeys

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blended together from different sources.

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To show just how that affects the taste,

0:25:350:25:38

David has blended together the pure honeys that I just tasted.

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What happens if we mix these four different types with

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all their individual flavours?

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What happens if we mix them all together?

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Do the flavours sort of counteract one another

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or can you still taste them?

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What else comes out? Yeah.

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And it quickly becomes clear that

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all those subtleties in taste have gone.

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Replaced instead by a perfectly pleasant

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but much more middle-of-the-road flavour.

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It's sweet.

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I can't any longer taste that distinctive floral that

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I got from the Welsh or the lavender that I got from the French one.

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It's very pleasant.

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But it doesn't have a distinctive taste

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-as they did when they were separate.

-Yes.

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And of course, that's what's happening with the cheaper

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-varieties of honey, isn't it?

-Yes.

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You are not going for a specific flavour, you are just going

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for honey, but not one that you can distinguish from anything else.

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That's right. That's exactly it, yeah.

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I think you've invented a new honey, David.

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HE LAUGHS

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The increase in sales of honey has been linked to consumers

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wanting to replace sugar in their diet.

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Like Rip-Off Britain viewer Yvonne.

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But she wants to know, was she right to switch?

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I changed from sugar to honey

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thinking it was better for me. Is it?

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Yvonne says she buys three jars of honey a month

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and uses it in place of sugar.

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Normally spending about £1.50 on a jar

0:27:100:27:12

that would typically last between one and two weeks.

0:27:120:27:16

She wants to know whether that's money well spent

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and whether it really is better for her than plain old sugar.

0:27:190:27:23

To find out, we brought Yvonne to meet nutritionist Ian Marber.

0:27:230:27:26

I wanted to know the nutritional value,

0:27:280:27:31

the difference between sugar and honey.

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Yvonne began to replace the sugar in her diet with honey

0:27:340:27:38

nine months ago after years of ill health.

0:27:380:27:42

I always associate it with the idea of the monks in the olden days

0:27:420:27:46

using it for medicinal purposes, that it's good for you.

0:27:460:27:51

A lot of people use honey in favour of sugar

0:27:510:27:53

because they think it's a lot better.

0:27:530:27:54

Honey does have some nutritional value to it

0:27:540:27:56

but it's not as great as people tend to think.

0:27:560:27:59

-You might put it in some tea, for instance.

-Yeah.

0:27:590:28:01

-So you put like a tablespoon in or a teaspoon?

-Oh, no. No, no.

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-A teaspoon.

-A teaspoon is very interesting because that teaspoon,

0:28:030:28:07

which is that amount, is actually going to have 10g of sugar in it.

0:28:070:28:13

Which is actually the same amount of sugar that you're going to find

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in four squares of milk chocolate.

0:28:150:28:19

And Ian reckons that honey's reputation for being

0:28:190:28:22

rich in vitamins and minerals is also a bit of a myth.

0:28:220:28:26

This is a tablespoon of honey, 21g.

0:28:260:28:29

And in that you've only actually got 1.3mg,

0:28:290:28:32

not grams, 1.3mg of calcium.

0:28:320:28:35

-OK? So it's not a huge amount of minerals in there.

-No.

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To give you an example,

0:28:380:28:39

there is 210mg of calcium in an ounce of Cheddar.

0:28:390:28:43

Some of the expensive honeys will have more vitamins

0:28:430:28:46

and more minerals in them.

0:28:460:28:47

But because there is a halo of health around foods like honey,

0:28:470:28:51

we are likely to eat more in one go.

0:28:510:28:54

We actually tend to use more of it because we think it's better for us.

0:28:540:28:57

The problem is that it's still rich in sugars.

0:28:570:29:00

A different type of sugars that are processed very slightly differently.

0:29:000:29:03

But the truth is, though, once it's past your mouth

0:29:030:29:05

and past your stomach and it's in your intestines, it's not

0:29:050:29:08

treated any differently than sugar that might be in milk chocolate.

0:29:080:29:11

Ian's advice for Yvonne isn't simply to swap one

0:29:110:29:15

kind of sugar for another, as she has effectively done by switching

0:29:150:29:19

to honey, but to reduce her taste for sweet foods altogether.

0:29:190:29:22

So less is more?

0:29:220:29:24

Absolutely.

0:29:240:29:25

I think that's the key, getting used to food that's less sweet.

0:29:250:29:28

So there is no need for Yvonne to turn her back on honey altogether.

0:29:280:29:32

But armed with Ian's advice, she's planning to change

0:29:320:29:36

the way that she sweetens her food in the future.

0:29:360:29:40

I'm really surprised about the little difference

0:29:400:29:42

between processed white sugar and honey.

0:29:420:29:46

I'm certainly going to use less.

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I'm certainly not going to pay the very, very expensive.

0:29:480:29:54

I'm going to be very careful, but cut down.

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Sales of supermarkets' own-brand products now account for over

0:30:050:30:08

half of all the food they sell.

0:30:080:30:10

But while fans of the more expensive brands insist that they give

0:30:100:30:14

you a better quality and taste, chef Mark Lloyd, who has

0:30:140:30:17

worked in some of the world's top restaurants, doesn't agree.

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I think we have a little bit of an obsession with brands.

0:30:220:30:24

I think it's maybe because our parents bought them

0:30:240:30:27

and we always saw them growing up.

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Mark's confident that if you make two versions of the same dish,

0:30:280:30:31

one with ingredients from the best-known big-names

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and the other with cheap and cheerful supermarket own-brands,

0:30:340:30:38

you won't be able to guess which is which.

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I really don't think you can tell the difference between premium

0:30:400:30:43

and economy ingredients once they are blended together.

0:30:430:30:46

And I'm so sure of this I'm going to prove it.

0:30:460:30:48

We asked Mark to make a simple spaghetti bolognese for four.

0:30:480:30:52

It's basically mince, pasta, tomatoes,

0:30:520:30:54

some herbs and a sprinkling of cheese.

0:30:540:30:56

He's been out to buy the ingredients twice.

0:30:560:30:59

One set of ingredients is from the branded range,

0:31:010:31:03

all the brands that you know and love in the supermarkets.

0:31:030:31:06

The other is from their own range,

0:31:060:31:09

their kind of budget or their own labelled range.

0:31:090:31:11

The ingredients for our spag bol from the bigger brands cost £5.49.

0:31:110:31:15

But the supermarket's own-brand versions added up to just £2.49.

0:31:150:31:20

That's a 50% saving.

0:31:200:31:22

So let's get cooking.

0:31:220:31:23

OK, there are a few things that you shouldn't really scrimp on,

0:31:250:31:27

that are worth spending a few extra pennies on.

0:31:270:31:29

Whole pieces of meat.

0:31:290:31:31

Roasting joints, whole chickens, things like that.

0:31:310:31:33

Fresh fish, vegetables

0:31:330:31:35

and fruit are always worth spending a little few extra pennies on.

0:31:350:31:38

But things like your tinned goods and jars of things,

0:31:380:31:41

things like tomato puree are worth shopping around for

0:31:410:31:45

and getting the best deal on.

0:31:450:31:47

Well, I think that's going to be a tough one to pick.

0:31:470:31:50

So the two versions are ready and on standby are three of Mark's staff

0:31:500:31:54

who reckon they know their bland from their brand.

0:31:540:31:57

Dish one is the cheaper version.

0:31:580:32:01

And dish two is the branded one.

0:32:010:32:03

Waitress Danielle goes straight to the expensive dish.

0:32:040:32:07

And then it's waiter John's turn to see

0:32:090:32:11

if he can spot the difference.

0:32:110:32:13

And now the Italian. Making pasta for an Italian.

0:32:130:32:16

Yeah, nothing should get past the chef Mateo.

0:32:160:32:19

But let's see which dish the three of them prefer.

0:32:200:32:24

So which one do you think's got the most expensive ingredients in?

0:32:240:32:27

-Number two.

-So number two.

0:32:270:32:30

-You think?

-I think this one.

0:32:300:32:32

-You think number one.

-Yeah.

0:32:320:32:34

-Matty, split decision.

-One.

0:32:340:32:36

-Number one?

-Yep.

0:32:360:32:37

I can tell you that that was the most expensive ingredients.

0:32:380:32:43

That was the cheaper ingredients.

0:32:430:32:45

So you picked the more expensive and you guys picked the cheaper one.

0:32:450:32:50

Now, that's hardly a scientific test.

0:32:500:32:52

But considering two out of the three went for the cheaper dish,

0:32:520:32:56

maybe it's true that when it comes to brands versus own-labels,

0:32:560:32:59

paying less doesn't mean you will end up scrimping on flavour too.

0:32:590:33:03

I think that just goes to show you can create amazing food with

0:33:030:33:06

non-branded ingredients.

0:33:060:33:08

Try and go out there and find yourself a bargain.

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Meanwhile, I'm off to finish this. Thanks.

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2016 has been officially designated by the Government

0:33:170:33:21

as the year of British food,

0:33:210:33:23

celebrating the best in British produce right across the UK.

0:33:230:33:26

As part of that, there is a push to award more regional foods

0:33:260:33:30

the protected status that guarantees they've been

0:33:300:33:32

made in the places that you'd think they had.

0:33:320:33:34

It's a way of heralding local specialities.

0:33:340:33:37

And it can really benefit businesses in the area

0:33:370:33:39

that win such recognition.

0:33:390:33:41

But, you know, there is another side to the coin.

0:33:410:33:43

And as you'll see, there are British businesses

0:33:430:33:46

for whom that is not such a good idea.

0:33:460:33:48

Wensleydale cheese from Wensleydale.

0:33:500:33:53

Melton Mowbray pork pies from Melton Mowbray.

0:33:530:33:56

And traditional Cumberland sausage from...

0:33:560:33:59

Well, you've got the picture.

0:33:590:34:01

All part and parcel of our food heritage.

0:34:010:34:04

And to some people, that's worth a lot.

0:34:040:34:06

I think buying British is important.

0:34:060:34:08

We should support local producers and local suppliers

0:34:080:34:12

rather than importing the food that we grow in this country.

0:34:120:34:16

I just think it's better to buy local.

0:34:160:34:18

I mean, if I can support the local farmers or whatever,

0:34:180:34:20

that's what I like to do.

0:34:200:34:22

I think it supports our economy.

0:34:220:34:23

And not only that, I think the food is better.

0:34:230:34:25

You know where the quality is coming from.

0:34:250:34:27

So I do prefer buying British, yeah.

0:34:270:34:29

Some of the best of this British food has been able to obtain

0:34:290:34:33

what's called geographically protected status.

0:34:330:34:36

That means, under EU law, it can only be sold using a particular name

0:34:360:34:40

if it meets certain requirements.

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Most often that it's been produced in the area where that

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specific product first came from, using a very particular method.

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Examples of these could include a Melton Mowbray pork pie

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or for many, a big favourite, the Cornish pasty.

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But what about the food producers

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living outside these geographical areas?

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They may have been making exactly the same products for generations,

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but now because of EU laws,

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they will no longer be able to call them the same thing.

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So why, if essentially they are the same no matter where

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they are made, does it really matter where they actually come from?

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That's very much the view of the dairy farmer Mark Hardy.

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He's in the business of making cheese.

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Not, however, one typical of West Sussex, where he farms,

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but halloumi, more commonly associated with Cyprus.

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So, Mark, for me

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it's always fascinating to come into the hub of everything.

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He's been making it for 25 years,

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and he used to produce feta cheese as well

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until in 2002, the European Union gave that crumbly favourite

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a protected designation of origin, or a PDO for short.

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It meant that to be called feta the cheese has to be made in Greece.

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What was your reaction

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when you heard that you couldn't call feta feta any more?

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Well, I was obviously annoyed cos it's a part of our business.

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But we just carried on really.

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We renamed the cheese Mediterranean sheep's milk cheese -

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Mediterranean-style sheep's cheese.

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Cos you can't use anything that sounds like feta in feta.

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We still sell quite a lot of it but it's not one of our major cheeses.

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And now Mark's halloumi is under threat as well.

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The UK currently represents the biggest market

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for halloumi cheese in Europe.

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And Mark is one of the handful of producers in this country.

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But that could all change

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if an application by Cyprus to restrict the use of the name

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halloumi to only cheese made in that country goes through.

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What's the current situation?

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Currently, the EU are discussing it and working out

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whether they are going to let it through or not.

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It's a period of consultation and any company, such as us,

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who have been making cheese,

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we've all put in a written application to the EU stating

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our case and why halloumi shouldn't be a protected cheese.

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One of the reasons Mark has objected is that, just like feta,

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halloumi isn't the name of a place but a type of cheese.

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But despite that, for anyone producing halloumi outside Cyprus,

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there's an added geographical spanner in the works.

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And it's all to do with ingredients.

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Some protected products, for example, the Cornish pasty,

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can have their ingredients sourced from anywhere in the world,

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as long as the product is simply assembled in Cornwall

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and follows the designated set method.

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But the specific type of protection Cyprus has applied for

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means that the key ingredients in the cheese

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would have to be from that country as well.

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So no matter how authentic his method of production,

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if the application is agreed, without upping sticks

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and moving his farm to Cyprus and sourcing his ingredients

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from there, Mark simply won't be allowed to call his cheese halloumi.

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How much do you think it will affect you?

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If you go to a supermarket and say,

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"Buy our halloumi cheese, it's not called halloumi,"

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people won't recognise it. They won't buy it.

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So is it a big worry for you?

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It's a worry. 25% of the cheese we make is halloumi cheese.

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If we can't call it halloumi, it's bound to affect our business.

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We employ 12 people here. It's bound to affect them.

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Now, of course, there are many businesses in the UK

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that have benefited from protected status.

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Which is why so many people and the authorities

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so eagerly get behind British products seeking such recognition.

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And some experts are enthusiastic supporters of the scheme as well.

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Because it provides an assurance of trust in a product

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that has tradition behind it.

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I would take the view that protective foods names,

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broadly speaking, are a good thing.

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They are good for the consumer because

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if the consumer wants to buy a specific food

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which is made in a defined place, they have the guarantee that

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what they are buying is an authentic product

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if it's a protected food name.

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I think one of the reasons for the halloumi application

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is that it unites both the Greek and Turkish aspects of Cyprus.

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I mean, food often brings people together.

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And in this example,

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the act of actually formulating the protected food name together

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is an example of two disparate sides with disparate cultures

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actually collaborating for a change.

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With the date for a decision unclear,

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Mark remains on tenterhooks as to what it will mean for his business.

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So to see what potential customers think, he has set up a stall

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with his halloumi and a Cypriot one from the local supermarket

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to try and find out

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whether passing shoppers can tell any difference between the two.

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-Would you like to try some cheese?

-Yes, please.

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How bothered with people be

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whether the cheese is made in Cyprus or in Sussex?

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Can you taste any difference?

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-This one.

-Yeah, I like that one.

-Lovely and creamy.

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This is the halloumi that we make

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and this one comes all the way from Cyprus.

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I think the second one. To be honest, there's not a lot in that.

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I mean, they are both nice. But I think I prefer the first one.

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I'm the same. I think I prefer the first one.

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Of the nine people who tasted both cheeses,

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seven preferred Mark's halloumi.

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But would they still buy it if it wasn't allowed to call itself that

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and the one they didn't like as much had the rights to the name?

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Would it bother you if

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we weren't allowed to call our halloumi halloumi?

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-No.

-Tastes good. So...

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-It's about the taste, not about the names.

-Yeah.

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You should call it I Can't Believe It's Not Halloumi.

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MARK LAUGHS

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The EU passed around 62 of these applications in 2015.

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Agreeing protected status for products such as

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a boiled Tuscan sausage,

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a specialist veal from a region of Spain,

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and purple and white asparagus from France.

0:41:020:41:05

But some applications didn't get this far.

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Jersey butter for example was rejected as it was judged

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that its character came from Jersey cows rather than the island itself.

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And Lincolnshire sausages failed to get protected food name status

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partly because other butchers complained

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that there was no evidence

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that the recipe originated in Lincolnshire.

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But for Mark, until the EU makes a decision on halloumi,

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the fate of a big part of his business hangs in the balance.

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And from now, I'm afraid all he can do is wait.

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It is very frustrating. It can happen just like that.

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And it's totally out of your control.

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I'd like to think they'd stick with us,

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if they think it's nicer than the imported halloumi.

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Well, as we've said many times before, it's amazing what you

0:42:290:42:33

find out when you read the full ingredients of the products we buy.

0:42:330:42:36

Because when you just look at the name or

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the description on the front, you can

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make assumptions that may not be entirely correct, to put it mildly.

0:42:400:42:44

Exactly. But it's important to point out that none of the products that

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we've talked about today are in any way hiding what they've got in them.

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But unless you are right across the full details of all

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the ingredients, it is very easy to leap to

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conclusions about some of the things that we eat and drink.

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And when we find out that we are wrong, well,

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then it's too easy to think that perhaps we've been short changed

0:43:020:43:05

when in fact, that may not be the case at all.

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I do hope you will keep sending us your ideas

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but anything at all that you spend your money on.

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