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We asked you who's left you feeling ripped off when it comes to

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your holidays, and you came back with a catalogue

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of travel disasters.

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This can't be happening, it's a nightmare.

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Wake me up from it, please.

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It was just a shambles, that's the best way to say it.

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It was just a shambles.

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So, whether it's a deliberate rip-off, a simple mistake,

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or a catch in the small print, we'll find out why you're out of pocket,

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and what you can do about it.

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Your stories, your money - this is Rip-Off Britain.

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Hello, and thank you so much for joining us on Rip-Off Britain.

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We've come to the sunshine island of Tenerife to investigate some of your

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holiday stories, and it's lovely to have your company.

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But not everyone you come across on a trip away is always going to be

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quite so welcoming, and the fact is that who you end up

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sharing your holiday with can make a real difference to

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how much you enjoy it.

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Now, don't get us wrong, because by that, of course,

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we don't mean the people that you choose to travel with,

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however frustrating they may turn out to be on the trip!

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No, what we're talking about are the ones that you might

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find yourself saddled with en route, or indeed when you arrive,

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because the people that you sit next to

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or who are given a room next door to you

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can have a major impact on your trip,

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especially if their idea of a holiday is very different

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and certainly a lot noisier than yours.

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Now, each to their own of course,

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and if what you're after is a good old party atmosphere,

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you won't be very happy if you end up in a get-away-from-it-all

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quiet retreat. So we'll be seeing how accurately we're given the

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right impression of, say, a place's character and indeed its clientele,

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as well as getting an exclusive peek at what's being done

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to stop the sort of behaviour that can ruin a holiday

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before it's even begun.

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Coming up - a flight disrupted by drunken passengers

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and a small boy caught in the crossfire.

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This man, like, opened his bottle top and he, like,

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threw it back and it hit my head,

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and it made like, this little hole in my head,

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and a little scratch of blood came out.

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And if your hotel's described as the lap of luxury,

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is this what you'd expect to find when you arrive?

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It just became mayhem, they were chucking drinks over each other,

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being sick in the pool. It was more like an 18-30...

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holiday club.

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Plus, keep it to yourself, but we reveal an island paradise

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that needn't break the bank.

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Being drunk in a bar is one thing,

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but being drunk on a plane is quite another.

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Not least because in recent years there's been a big rise

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in delays caused by passengers who've had one too many.

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Well, airlines and airport staff are determined to minimise

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such disruption, and we went to see some of the methods

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they're using to do it.

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The golden age of air travel from the 1950s onwards

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brought unparalleled access to the world for those who could afford it.

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The luxury at airports and on board meant champagne corks were flying

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as much as the passengers.

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-NEWSREEL:

-Several bottles of bubbly were popped,

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and the passengers celebrated.

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In the decades since, on long-haul flights especially,

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we came to expect the drinks trolley to freely dispense all those

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miniature bottles, but if these days it seems to come round

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a little less often, there's a good reason for that.

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Because, with pubs and champagne bars jostling for space

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alongside the airport departure gates, there are concerns that

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some passengers have already had one too many

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before they even get on board.

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Now, for many people, having a drink at the airport or on the plane

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is just part of getting into the holiday spirit,

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but police and airlines are warning that overindulging

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could have consequences.

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Over the last few years, hundreds of passengers

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have been arrested on suspicion of being drunk on a plane, and,

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according to news reports, some very high fliers indeed may also have had

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more than just one for the road.

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Kate Moss has been escorted off a plane at Luton Airport

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for reportedly being disruptive.

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The French film star Gerard Depardieu was removed

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from an aeroplane after urinating in a bottle during takeoff.

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And we didn't have to look very hard to find people who'd shared

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a flight with passengers who'd gone overboard at the bar.

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It is annoying when somebody gets smashed on a plane.

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You don't really want to hear a crowd of people really drunk on the plane.

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I think it's a massive issue, actually, especially for the

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cabin crew on there as well, the things they have to deal with.

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I was on a flight to Spain and there was a group of guys,

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obviously drunk, and they were making a lot of noise,

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shouting a lot. It was just not comfortable.

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That discomfort is a feeling that single mum Sarah Gregory

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can certainly relate to, after a flight she took to Ibiza in 2016.

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She was flying with her two children,

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seven-year-old Aston and four-year-old India,

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for a two-week family break in the sun.

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The children were really excited about going on holiday.

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It had taken me a year to save up,

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so it was aimed at being a lovely family break in Ibiza,

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which would be suitable for the children.

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Sarah booked her flights with Ryanair, which,

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two days before the family was due to fly,

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sent an e-mail explaining it was tightening the rules

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around alcohol consumption on its flights to Ibiza.

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It explained that any passenger considered to be drunk

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wouldn't be allowed to board their flight, and no pre-purchased alcohol

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could be brought on board either.

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All very reassuring for Sarah.

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It was going to be really easy to travel with the children,

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they were going to be safe and have a comfortable flight,

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and that it was going to be very manageable on my own

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travelling with the children.

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But when Sarah got to Leeds Bradford Airport

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and through to the departure lounge, it appeared that Ryanair's message

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hadn't got through to some of the other passengers on her flight.

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There was quite a lot of merriment, shouting, singing, obviously,

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as you would probably expect on boarding a flight to Ibiza.

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But nobody checked the baggage, nobody looked in the bags,

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nobody was really assessing anyone to see if they were worse for wear

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for alcohol.

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And, as Sarah and her children boarded the plane,

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her heart sank when one visibly drunk passenger was doing so, too.

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The individual we'd actually seen staggering around earlier

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in the airport, to our surprise, actually got on the flight,

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was allowed to board it,

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walked down the aisle, erm...

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quite clearly worse for wear,

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and swearing profusely in front of my children.

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He then sat in the seat directly behind my son,

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continued to swear profusely, and then fell asleep.

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Hoping the other well-oiled passengers would also drop off,

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Sarah was dismayed to hear the announcement heralding the arrival

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of the drinks trolley, and she was disappointed to see

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drinks being served to people who, in her opinion,

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already appeared rather too merry,

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in complete contrast to what Ryanair's e-mail

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had said would happen.

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Things started to get very rowdy and disruptive,

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and I felt that the cabin crew were very much struggling to cope

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with the disruption at that point.

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And when the drunken passengers began throwing items

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across the cabin, Sarah's son Aston found himself

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in the firing line.

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Everyone was scared of them.

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They were shouting, they were screaming, they were putting

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fists out at everyone.

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This man, like, opened this bottle top and he, like,

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threw it back and it hit my head and it made, like,

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this little hole in my head and a little scratch of blood came out.

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The flight had degenerated into such a point where it became

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absolutely unbearable. It was just awful.

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When my son was actually struck on the head with the cans

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and bottle tops, it did make me really angry.

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The cabin crew, they didn't actually intervene or do anything

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to make the situation any better or any safer for my children.

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Sarah couldn't wait for the flight to come to an end,

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and once her holiday was over and she was back in the UK,

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she wanted to know not just why drunk and disorderly passengers

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had been allowed to board the flight in the first place,

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but why they were then able to buy and drink more alcohol.

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So she wrote to Ryanair.

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But when the airline replied, its version of how things were handled

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was rather different from the way Sarah remembered them.

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I actually received a letter from the airline saying that it was

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regrettable that we hadn't enjoyed the flight.

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However, they had interviewed all the crew on board that flight

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and they were satisfied that procedures WERE followed.

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I don't feel that the airline took my complaint seriously

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or actually realised how bad the situation had been,

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particularly for my children.

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Well, when WE contacted Ryanair, the airline agreed that

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a number of individuals caused a minor disturbance on Sarah's flight

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and were warned to behave.

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It says it operates strict guidelines

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for disruptive passengers who, in addition to being cautioned

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by the crew or captain,

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could be liable for further sanctions upon landing.

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Ryanair says it won't tolerate unruly behaviour,

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and the safety and comfort of customers,

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crew and aircraft is its number one priority.

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And it reiterated that,

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after consulting with passengers and airports...

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But it's not just the behaviour of

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drunken passengers that can cause problems on flights.

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Identifying and tackling those intoxicated passengers,

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not to mention their friends and luggage,

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can have quite an impact too,

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disrupting and even delaying flights.

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So, to prevent such incidents,

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Glasgow Prestwick Airport has employed extra staff who've been likened to bouncers,

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because it's their job to keep an eye on passengers' pre-flight boozing,

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and intervene if it looks as if things are getting out of hand.

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Security operations manager Kate Kilgour is overseeing the new initiative.

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Introducing the bouncers,

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we obviously want to try and achieve the early intervention,

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so building rapport.

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As soon as the passengers come into the terminal

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we want to try and obviously gauge how they are, to see if they've actually

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had any alcohol consumption before they've arrived.

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Kate plans ahead,

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checking the make-up of passenger lists for flights to destinations

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popular with stag, hen and general partygoers, such as Magaluf and Ibiza.

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When she identifies potential flashpoints, she books extra security,

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specifically to deal with alcohol-related problems.

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On duty today is Tommy Mitchell,

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a doorman with ten years' experience in pubs and clubs.

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Passengers booked on the 3:15 Ibiza flight are starting to roll in,

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and he's keeping a watchful eye on them.

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And it doesn't take long before Kate spots a group

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she'd like Tommy to have a chat with.

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I'll just go over and show my presence...

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-Thank you.

-..and have a chat with them. Thanks, Kate.

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Tommy's approach to simply introduce himself to groups such as these

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is often all it takes to curb any overenthusiastic behaviour.

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-How are you doing, boys, all right?

-Aye.

-Great, Tommy.

-Good, good.

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I do a quick look at them and make sure

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none of them are intoxicated or on drugs,

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and I'm also looking for their attitude.

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And they're a good bunch of guys, we just had a bit of chat. Having a laugh with them.

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Kate's confident that such interventions ARE doing the trick.

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We've definitely seen a marked improvement since introducing the stewards

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within the terminal.

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Obviously just having that extra pair of eyes,

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that early intervention is definitely key for us.

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Glasgow Prestwick isn't the only airport to operate such a scheme.

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Glasgow's other airport, and London Gatwick

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are among those to have also introduced initiatives

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to tackle excessive drinking before passengers get on board.

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And in summer 2016,

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many other airports and airlines

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signed up to a UK aviation industry code of practice.

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According to aviation expert Julian Bray,

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that's not before time.

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Bad behaviour on aircraft, this has been a wake-up call to the industry because previously

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they were prepared to allow a little bit of merriment to go on.

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The point is, you are entering an environment, it's a strange environment,

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you're excited, you're breathing

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recirculated air, so you're very dry.

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And so alcohol will react very, very quickly.

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So the industry's finally realised this, and they've said, "Right, OK,

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"we're going to try and make sure it's safe for everybody, because everybody

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"has a right to quiet enjoyment on a flight."

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For her part, after her flight last summer,

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Sarah would welcome more initiatives such as the one at Glasgow.

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I am concerned that this could actually happen again if we go on

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holiday again next year, so unless something is done in the interim to

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prevent this, then it is quite worrying.

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It's difficult enough to travel with children, and given the situation,

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it's not one that I would wish any other family to go through.

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Our travel expert, Simon Calder, has all the secrets to save

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you money on your money on your travels. He's full of tips on everything

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from how to avoid the crowds, to the best way to steer clear of those tourist traps.

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This time, the Azores.

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I've organised some truly dreadful holidays.

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Just ask my family about the fly-drive to Denmark,

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where it turned out there was no car!

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Or the expedition to Greenland and Baffin Island that was basically two

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weeks sitting and stewing on an old Polish ferry.

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But there was one trip that delivered fantastic experiences and formidable value.

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The Azores are a collection of islands in the middle of the Atlantic,

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and since the Portuguese government allowed budget airlines to fly there

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in 2015, the price of flights has dropped by two thirds.

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Even better, once you arrive,

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Simon says it's easy to explore on the cheap.

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Prices in most remote islands are annoyingly high,

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but in the Azores they're gratifyingly low.

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You could spend more than £50 for a decent hotel room,

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or over a tenner for a good dinner with a glass of wine,

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but there's not really much point.

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And taxis are so inexpensive,

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you might consider using them instead and simply not renting a car.

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And Simon has a list of must-sees and things to do.

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The volcanic observatory,

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a hike up to the Lake of Fire in the east of the island,

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a steam and soak with naturally heated water in the centre at

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Caldeira Velha, and the stunning Seven Cities,

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a cascade of volcanic craters near the western edge.

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By the end of the day, you'll feel you've witnessed the raw edge of the

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world, but you've still got a fish dinner to look forward to.

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Now, before arriving at a holiday hotel,

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each of us will have a very clear idea of what sort of atmosphere we'd

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like it to have. For example,

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you might be looking for somewhere peaceful and relaxing and very much

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geared to adults only.

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Or maybe you want a place more family focused with all the hubbub and fun

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that that involves. Or, of course, you could be looking for a full-on

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party atmosphere... Is it me?

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You'll have to guess. ..with music going on around the clock.

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Now, whichever is your preference,

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and I'm absolutely sure which one I like,

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you're not going to be happy if you don't get it.

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Quality time relaxing quietly.

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With the only noise to disturb you,

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the gentle sound of waves lapping at the shore.

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Veterinary nurse Debbie Parry's requirements for her week away with

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her boyfriend was simple.

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We've both got full-time jobs,

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we don't really see a lot of each other,

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even though we live together.

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Holidays are very, very important to us.

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And this is why we like to spend quiet time together.

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To have our own privacy, and just to enjoy together time.

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To make sure rest and relaxation

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would be what she got on her holiday in September 2015,

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Debbie restricted her search to hotels that particularly

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described themselves as adults only.

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We have nothing against children, I do have two young nephews.

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But I wouldn't want a holiday with them.

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After a bit of searching online,

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Debbie found what sounded like the perfect option,

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with the holiday giant Thomson.

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It was a seven night stay in the five-star

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Insula Alba Resort and Spa in Crete,

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one of the company's platinum resorts,

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which means it's part of a hand-picked selection of first-rate properties.

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Not only did the hotel offer designer decor and sea views,

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but Thomson's website clearly stated that the resort was adults only.

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Now, for Debbie, it was just what she was looking for,

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so she enthusiastically booked.

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It was adults only, it just ticked the right boxes as far as I was concerned,

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and it just sounded absolutely fantastic.

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17 weeks later, when the holiday came around,

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Debbie and her boyfriend, Steve, were well and truly ready

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for a peaceful and relaxing week in the sun.

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But the child-free haven they were expecting wasn't quite the scene

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they were greeted with on their first morning.

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Unfortunately, when we went in for breakfast,

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we noticed that there were quite a few families in there.

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So that was fine, the breakfast was lovely.

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But it did raise an alarm bell.

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Not thinking too much about it,

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the couple returned to their room to make the most of their private pool.

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But their much wanted peace and quiet was shattered by the screams

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of a baby crying in the adjoining room.

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I just then got frustrated. I went to the reception,

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I was given the e-mail address for the Thomson rep and

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I then came back, sent her an e-mail explaining the situation.

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Debbie's point was that although of course she understands babies do

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cry, she hadn't expected that to be an issue in a hotel described as

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adults only. The rep agreed to move them to a different room,

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which they all hoped would be more peaceful, and at first it was.

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This room was lovely, and then within sort of 24 hours,

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a group of young adults had then moved into the room next door and

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they were just playing music from nine o'clock in the morning until,

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after about five, six phone calls to the reception,

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the manager finally came and told them to turn the music down.

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But by this time, three days

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into their seven-day break, Debbie's hopes of a relaxing trip were fading

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-very fast.

-We ate out most nights,

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simply just to have some quiet time to ourselves.

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I just couldn't wait to get home.

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As soon as they returned to the UK,

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Debbie got in touch with Thomson to complain.

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She didn't feel the hotel had been what she'd expected at all.

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And she certainly couldn't understand why it was described as adults only

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on Thomson's website, as well as the hotel's own website,

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when clearly that was not the case.

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I do feel that I was mis-sold the holiday.

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The reason that I chose that hotel was because it clearly stated

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"adults only".

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Thomson responded to Debbie with an e-mail that she found preposterous.

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Although the company apologised for any inconvenience caused,

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it also explained that the hotel was in fact adult focused,

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which means that although it's recommended for adults,

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there may be children there from other tour operators.

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And while they pointed out that this was stated in its terms and conditions,

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as far as Debbie is concerned, if that's the case,

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it shouldn't really have been labelled,

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and indeed sold, as adults only.

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I was very upset by the response,

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and nowhere in the advertisement did it say "adult focused".

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And you can see her point. When we checked,

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both Thomson's website and the hotel's were still

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very clearly describing the hotel as adults only and not adult focused.

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Well, when we got in touch with Thomson,

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the company told us it was very sorry to hear of her experience,

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and while it does have agreements in place with hoteliers at all

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adult-only resorts, it conceded that on this occasion these may not have

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been adhered to.

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Describing circumstances such as this is extremely rare,

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it added that it was carrying out a full investigation with the hotel

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management and will make any necessary changes.

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And it said it has now offered Debbie a goodwill gesture of £100,

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or £150 off her next holiday,

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which she has refused because she doesn't feel it covers her

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disappointment for what happened.

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But a very similar complaint has landed Thomson in hot water before.

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Back in 2012, the company was rapped over the knuckles by the

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Advertising Standards Authority after breaks advertised as adult only

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turned out to be a resort hosting families with young children.

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And another couple to contact us after staying in a Thomson hotel,

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where they say the vibe didn't quite match expectations,

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is Jeffrey Gardner and his wife, Geraldine.

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They got in touch to tell us that although kids weren't a complete no-no

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on a trip they took to Mexico with friends David and Trish,

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they did expect to have a peaceful and relaxing time.

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We'd found out that probably the best place for us to go would be Riviera Maya,

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as it's a nice, quiet resort.

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Having stayed in one of Thomson's Gold collection of resorts in the

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past, described by the company as classic holidays designed for adults,

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the foursome, keen to experience a similar type of break,

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plumped this time for a hotel from the tour operator's Platinum range,

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believing it would provide even higher levels of peace and relaxation.

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We were very much looking for a relaxing holiday,

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but somewhere that wasn't totally quiet,

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but equally we wanted to be able to kind of relax during the day and,

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you know, kind of just generally have a nice, peaceful time.

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They paid £7,200 between them for two weeks at the

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Grand Sirenis Riviera Maya Resort and Spa,

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described on Thomson's website as the lap of luxury.

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But when they arrived,

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the couples were surprised at the sort of clientele already lapping up

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that luxury, and the volume at which they were doing it.

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When we actually arrived on the resort,

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the first impression was that it was very loud and it was

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more like an 18-30 holiday club.

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In fact, Jeffrey and Geraldine were astonished to find themselves caught up in the

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notorious annual spring break celebrations of hundreds of students

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aged from 18 to 21. So notorious that television programmes have even

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made about it. And our couples' photos tell a very similar story.

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It just became mayhem, they were chucking drinks over each other, being sick in the pool.

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The noise was of a level where you couldn't really escape it.

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Now, nowhere on Thomson's brochures, or indeed on its website, does the company make

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any promises about the age or type of customers that you might expect to be

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sharing a hotel with. And however noisy they might have been,

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those students were adults.

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But when Jeffrey complained to Thomson,

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his argument was that as these students' idea of a holiday was so obviously

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very different to his own,

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he was never going to have got the relaxing holiday he presumed he'd

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booked by choosing a top-of-the-range platinum hotel.

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So the company did offer him some money back.

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They offered us £60 compensation each,

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which we thought was like a derogatory offer.

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And which we refused.

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Then they said they would pass it to somebody senior,

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and it would take another 56 days to investigate.

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Well, forget 56 days, or even 56 weeks,

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a lot longer has passed and the couple say that they are yet to

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receive a final response to their complaint.

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This complaint was made nearly two and a half years ago.

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And I feel that Thomson have just totally ignored...

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ignored everything that I've said.

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The complaints that I've made, they've not taken seriously.

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Whilst Thomson didn't comment directly on why Jeffrey and Geraldine are

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still waiting to hear from it regarding their complaint,

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it did say it's sorry the two couples were unhappy with their

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holiday experience. It said the management at its hotels worked closely with its

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destination services teams to monitor guests' behaviour and ensure

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that all customers are able to enjoy the holiday.

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It added that it's offered a gesture of goodwill to apologise.

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Geraldine and Jeffrey, however,

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say that they have rejected that offer and point out that on various

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holidays booked with Thomson, both before and since,

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they've paid a lot less to stay in nicer hotels.

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As for Debbie, well, she still feels that whatever the terms and conditions may say,

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a hotel is either adult only or it's not.

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If you book an adult only hotel, you should expect adults only.

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Whereas now I would be always thinking,

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"Is it going to be adults only?"

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And the answer to that question is - who knows?

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Well, it's one thing having to spend time with people who rub you up the

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wrong way at home, but quite another when it's during your precious

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holiday time for which you may have paid a lot of money.

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That'll put a dampener on even the sunniest of vacations!

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And whether that's been for the whole duration of the trip or just

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the flight, having the wrong sort of travelling companions really can

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mean that you get home rather more stressed than you were before you went away,

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which sort of defeats the whole point of going on holiday, really,

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-doesn't it?

-I think it does rather,

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but it's a good job that the three of us get on as well as we do,

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that's all I can say, otherwise it might be a very different picture.

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But I'm afraid it's time to part company for now,

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as we're right out of time, but, of course,

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we'll be back to investigate more of your stories very soon.

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Please keep them coming in, we love them and we read every one.

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In the meantime, we hope your next holiday goes exactly the way you'd

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planned, and until the next time, from all of us, it's goodbye.

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-Goodbye.

-Goodbye.

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