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We asked you who's left you feeling ripped off when it comes to your | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
holidays, and you came back with a catalogue of travel disasters. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
I thought it was a joke, I really did. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
You know, I started laughing. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
I said, "You cannot be serious." | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
They were saying it was not their fault. It was unbelievable. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
I can't even explain. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
So, whether it's a deliberate rip-off, | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
a simple mistake or a catch in the small print, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
we'll find out why you're out of pocket and what you can do about it. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:30 | |
Your stories, your money. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
This is Rip-Off Britain. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
Hello and welcome to Rip-Off Britain, which this series is all | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
about some of the disasters that you've told us you experienced while on holiday. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:44 | |
Now, obviously we all hope our trips away will be hassle-free and full of | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
sunshine, just like it is here in Tenerife, | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
but occasionally, things do go wrong. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
Sometimes horrendously, as we're going to see. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
If, for instance, the situation in which you suddenly find yourself | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
is especially serious or, worse still, | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
puts the health of someone with whom you're travelling in jeopardy, | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
finding someone to help to get things resolved is going to be your | 0:01:05 | 0:01:10 | |
priority. But you're going to be miles from home on holiday, | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
in a country that may have very different rules and regulations and, | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
of course, an entirely different language. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
So it's not always going to be easy to get someone to resolve the | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
-situation. -Actually quite a tricky position to be in and, of course, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
it won't help if what's likely to be your first port of call, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
in other words, the company you booked your travel with, | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
doesn't necessarily see what's happened | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
as anything whatsoever to do with them, which, I'm afraid, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
applies to some of the cautionary tales we're about to hear. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
And, you know, without someone on board to help or even just listen to | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
you, the road to recovery can feel | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
a very long one indeed, and very frustrating. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
Coming up, a nine-hour wait for a life-saving operation in Mexico, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:55 | |
all because the insurance company back home couldn't confirm | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
it would cover the cost. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
I thought my daughter might die here. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
If they don't pay up, we haven't got the funds to pay for this, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
what are we going to do? | 0:02:06 | 0:02:07 | |
And which country's laws apply if you run into problems on a cruise? | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
How this man's troubles with an onboard paint job | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
threw up a surprise you might not realise when you take to the waves. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
Fumes were so seriously strong that it makes you feel not well, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:24 | |
it affects your breathing. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
And I was extremely concerned. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
Now, wherever you are, if you have an accident or fall seriously ill, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
you're going to want to get treatment as quickly as possible, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
but when you're on holiday, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:40 | |
the often inevitable hold-ups and finding the right hospital | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
or waiting for a doctor to see you | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
can be magnified by the complications | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
of getting in touch with the insurance company back home that you | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
hope will be covering the cost of the treatment you need. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
And when every second counts, as it did for the family we're about to | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
meet, that kind of delay isn't just stressful, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
it could even make the ultimate difference to how things turn out. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
These holiday snaps with five-year-old Ellie centre stage | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
should be a reminder of all the good times | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
on the Whitfield family's recent trip to Mexico. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
But it's another image of Ellie from the holiday | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
that brings back the most vivid memories - | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
ones they'd like to forget. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
August 2016, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
and Ellie had been particularly looking forward to the trip as | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
she was going to play a key role in her grandmother's wedding. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
Ellie was really excited to go on the holiday, | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
we'd had it planned for a year and she was going to be bridesmaid. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
It was the furthest that the family had flown together, and with two | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
children under five, mum Sophie was keen to get the right insurance. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
She searched on comparison websites and eventually plumped for a policy | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
with the company insurefor.com | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
..paying £22.42 for a single trip economy policy, which included free | 0:04:02 | 0:04:08 | |
-cover for the children. -It was one of the cheapest, | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
it seemed good value for money | 0:04:12 | 0:04:13 | |
because it had a high level of cover, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
so if anything did go wrong, I know I'd be covered. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
With everything booked and travel insurance secured, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
all the family had to do was look forward to jetting off. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
We were all so excited, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
we'd paid for it the year before, so we had a full year of waiting for | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
the holiday and the lead-up to it with the wedding | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
and all the family going, we all just couldn't wait to go. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
And when they arrived, everything seemed just what they'd hoped for. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
Our hotel was lovely, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
Ellie loved the pool and the little kids' disco in the night. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
But four days into the trip, Ellie started to feel unwell. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:58 | |
Sophie initially thought it was just a reaction to the change in water. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
Ellie had stomach cramps, she was in a lot of pain. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
I was just hoping it was a tummy bug | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
and everything was going to be all right. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
But it soon became clear that it was something far more serious. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
She was throwing up bright green sick, temperature, she wouldn't eat, | 0:05:16 | 0:05:21 | |
so we realised there was something more to it. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
As Ellie's condition deteriorated, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
the family took her to see the hotel doctor. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
He felt around her stomach and he noticed it was the right side, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
so he suspected it was appendicitis | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
and he recommended we get an ambulance. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
The family was rushed to the nearest hospital, but as is common in this | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
kind of situation in foreign hospitals, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
before the doctor would even see Ellie, let alone treat her, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
the family was hit with a demand for cash. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
My partner went into the hospital and he came back and said we needed | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
£2,000 for Ellie to be seen, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
and that was just to get into the hospital. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
It was a sense of panic at first, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
I felt just I needed to get her seen, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
so I went into the hospital and rang the insurance. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
Hoping that securing payment from insurefor.com was just a formality, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:19 | |
Sophie was surprised when the company said | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
they'd have to call her back, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
and the insurers couldn't give any idea when that might be. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
At this point, Ellie was screaming in the waiting room in agony and her | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
dad had broke down crying, he just wanted to get her seen, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
so I was ringing the insurance all the time, just trying to get them to | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
see how critical she was. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
Every moment was critical, | 0:06:43 | 0:06:44 | |
but the minutes turned into hours | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
and there was still no positive response from insurefor.com. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:51 | |
So Sophie and her partner, Christopher, decided they couldn't | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
wait any longer and found the money themselves. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
My partner's mum put it on a credit card, she said, "Just pay it, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
"she needs to be seen," so we just did it. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
The credit card authorisation gave the green light for initial tests | 0:07:05 | 0:07:10 | |
while the hospital waited for the insurer to confirm cover. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
Ellie had an ultrasound scan and an X-ray, which confirmed that she had | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
appendicitis and needed emergency surgery. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
But the hospital said the only way the operation could be carried out | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
was if it received confirmation that someone would pay the cost, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
which amounted to over £10,000. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
And again, to Sophie's horror, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
a prompt answer from her insurer wasn't forthcoming. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
I was ringing them every ten minutes, telling them, "Look, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
"she's in and out of consciousness, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
"this is urgent, you need to get her down." | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
And my partner was really upset. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
Insurance just didn't understand. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
I tried to tell them on the phone how critical she was | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
and they just didn't care. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
Now, the insurer would argue that behind the scenes it was working hard to get the family | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
the answer it needed, but it's easy to see that miles from home, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
with her daughter's health on the line, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
it didn't look that way to Sophie, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
especially when Ellie took a turn for the worse | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
and her appendix actually burst. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
I was so scared, in a different country, watching her in that state | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
and knowing I couldn't do anything | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
but wait for the insurance to answer. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
At one point, I thought my daughter might die here. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
If they don't pay up, we haven't got the funds to pay for this, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
what are we going to do? | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
That was my main worry after sitting in that hospital for nine hours - | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
will she come through and make it at the other end? | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
Will I lose her? | 0:08:45 | 0:08:46 | |
Sophie says it was only after the Mexican surgeon himself got on the | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
phone to the insurers, stressing the urgency of the situation, | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
that the company was able to finally confirm it would come up with the | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
-cash. -It was like a manic rush | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
once they said she could have the go-ahead for the surgery. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
The surgeons rushed in and they had her up in the theatre straightaway. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
It was such a relief. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:15 | |
The surgery was a success and Ellie was admitted to intensive care. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
But to the family's dismay, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
the insurer then said it still wasn't able to confirm whether it | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
would cover the hospital's after-care following the operation. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
The insurance had confirmed that they'd pay for her operation, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
but they hadn't confirmed they would pay for her care there afterwards. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
Ellie was discharged after two days in hospital, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
at which point Sophie says they were hit with a bill for around £4,000, | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
which appeared to be for her care after the operation. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
But I'm afraid even THAT wasn't the end of it. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
Just two days later, | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
Ellie was rushed back into hospital after contracting an infection, and | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
to Sophie it didn't seem that insurefor.com was in any rush | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
to confirm it would cover the cost of her treatment this time, either. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
And we were back in square one, what were in when we first went. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
They treated her for an infection, | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
they treated her without us paying | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
any money, but once we got discharged, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
we had to pay again on a credit card. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
Now, the insurer did guarantee that it would pick up that cost, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
which came to around a further £6,000, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
but Sophie and her family had to guarantee the full sum | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
on their own credit card just in case. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
So by now, Sophie says they had undertaken to pay out | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
around £12,000 for Ellie's treatment, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
which they'd only been able to do thanks to the help | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
of generous friends and family. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
And although there was some confusion over the total costs, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
with prices quoted in US dollars, | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
Mexican pesos and British pounds, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
Sophie knew this could leave her family seriously out of pocket. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
I felt really guilty, and the other family members, that they'd had to | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
put their personal money on a credit card | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
just for us to get out of the hospital. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
Though relieved that Ellie was free to return to the UK, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
the couple were distraught at the thousands of pounds of credit card | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
payments they'd been forced to authorise in Mexico. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:29 | |
And their worries only got worse when, | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
11 days after they returned home, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
the hospital e-mailed Sophie to say it was still pursuing the insurer | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
for payment. And it suggested she chase up the company, too, to avoid | 0:11:37 | 0:11:42 | |
that £12,000 coming off her and her family's own cards. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
My partner was querying, should we sell our car, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
should we sell our house, where else would we find the money from? | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
That was our only options, really. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
Well, luckily it didn't come to that because, shortly afterwards, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
insurefor.com did pay out and settled the bill | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
for all of Ellie's hospital treatment. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
But Sophie remains upset at why, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
throughout all of this, they'd had what she considered | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
such a slow response from the insurance company. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
As far as she's concerned, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
the insurer made a traumatic situation many times worse and she | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
still can't understand why, in an emergency like this, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
an answer can't be given right away. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
If they'd made that decision quicker, we wouldn't have had to | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
go through Ellie's appendix bursting and then having to fight off an | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
infection and being taken back into hospital. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
So, how quickly should you expect to get a response from your travel | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
insurance provider? | 0:12:47 | 0:12:48 | |
Well, personal finance expert Sarah Pennells says | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
that while every second counts in an emergency, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
perhaps surprisingly, there's no set timeframe within which | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
insurers have to agree to send payment. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
I think you're in a very difficult situation if you find yourself in | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
the circumstances that Ellie's parents were. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
There aren't actually any hard and fast rules that say a time limit by | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
which an insurer should deal with a claim. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
And of course, in Ellie's case, | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
sort of, hours mattered. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
All you can do, really, is to make | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
your voice heard as loudly as possible | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
and to make sure that the people at the top of the company | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
know this issue, because sometimes | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
people who are in the call centres aren't actually | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
allowed to make decisions that to you and I | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
might seem to be common sense. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
Well, we asked insurefor.com to explain why it took so long to make a decision on | 0:13:35 | 0:13:40 | |
Ellie's care, especially given the critical nature of the situation. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:45 | |
It told us that while it was sorry to hear of the situation and | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
delighted that Ellie's made a full recovery, it... | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
Once the written paperwork and key authorisations were received, it did | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
give the go-ahead for surgery. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
And subsequently, after a full | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
and thorough review of the family's policy, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
covered the cost of the rest of the treatment. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
The company went on to stress that | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
it always aims to deal with customers | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
in the shortest time possible, and though it works with third parties | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
to administer and underwrite its policies, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
it takes full responsibility for the regulation and administration of | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
those policies to ensure that they are fit for purpose | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
and meet the needs of customers. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
We also contacted the Association of British Insurers, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
which told us its members understand the need to respond quickly when | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
someone needs urgent treatment, and it's... | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
It says in an emergency situation, insurers will generally give the | 0:14:51 | 0:14:56 | |
go-ahead on a presumption there is cover in place, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
keeping in regular contact with the policy holder, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
their immediate family and the medical facility overseas to ensure | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
treatment goes ahead as soon as possible. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
Of course, as we've seen, things may not always be that simple. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
So Sarah Pennells has this advice | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
when choosing the right insurance policy for your next holiday. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
My advice is to look really carefully at the cover you get | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
with your travel insurance, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
and also to do some research into how well and quickly | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
the insurance company pays out. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
Most people, we've got better things to do than to spend time buying | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
travel insurance and we tend to go for the cheapest option, but it may | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
not be the right one for you. And if you need to make a claim on your | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
insurance policy, you want to know | 0:15:42 | 0:15:43 | |
that it will be there and it will pay out when you need. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
In the meantime, though Sophie's trying to concentrate on the good | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
memories of the holiday, she can't forget the enormous stress | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
that trying to contact her insurer caused. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
From us getting to the hospital to getting an answer from the | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
insurance for the go-ahead for the operation, we waited nine hours. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:07 | |
I paid that money for the insurance thinking everything would be OK. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
When something goes wrong whilst you're away on holiday, it's quite a | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
natural reaction to want to find someone to take responsibility. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
But very often it's quite hard to establish who that might be, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:32 | |
and that's, of course, at the root | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
of an awful lot of the stories that you send to us. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
But some of you have come across a very specific reason why it can be a | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
particular problem when you've been on a cruise, and it means that if | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
the trip itself wasn't plain sailing, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
I'm afraid getting things resolved may not turn out to be any better. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
Last year, 24 million passengers hopped on board a cruise ship and | 0:16:58 | 0:17:03 | |
the industry employs over 900,000 people, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
meaning that on any given day, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
thousands of people are at sea aboard these huge floating cities. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:13 | |
And to keep up with demand, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
27 new ships have hit the seas in 2016 alone. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
But one ship that certainly isn't new is the Marco Polo. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
It was built in 1965 and has been through several owners and numerous | 0:17:23 | 0:17:28 | |
renovations since. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
It's currently operated by Cruise & Maritime Voyages, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
a UK-based company. And as can be seen from this promotional video, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:38 | |
a trip on the Marco Polo is definitely one to remember. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
'So why not experience a Cruise & Maritime voyage for yourself? | 0:17:42 | 0:17:47 | |
'We'll make you very welcome.' | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
And it was a slice of the ship's luxury that appealed to Judy and Graham Sexton from Lincolnshire. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:56 | |
They've a lifelong love of boats, | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
but in their retirement fancied handing over the controls to the | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
captain of the Marco Polo on a five-week cruise. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
We were really looking forward to the trip | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
because the venues were fantastic. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
Unusual, some of them. Greenland, | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
three places in Greenland, the Faroes, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
parts of Canada that we'd never been to. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
-Oh, thanks. -OK. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:19 | |
But the couple didn't find the cruise quite as enjoyable as they'd hoped. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:24 | |
The Marco Polo, now in its 52nd year, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
was due a bit of TLC and was being painted when Graham and Judy boarded | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
the ship. And Graham says one of the products being used | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
began to cause him some problems. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
The fumes were so strong that I had to hold my breath | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
coming down the gangway, because there was about three or four people | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
painting the boat and the fumes were absolutely horrendous. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
They were painting all the rails, they were varnishing all the stairs. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:54 | |
Graham says the fumes were so bad, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
they even began to affect his breathing. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
So he paid a visit to the ship's doctor. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
One of the big concerns was Graham has asthma and the fumes were so | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
seriously strong that it makes you feel not well, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
it affects your breathing, and I was extremely concerned. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:14 | |
In fact, the couple considered the fumes so bad, they even wondered if | 0:19:14 | 0:19:19 | |
they could carry on with the trip. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
By the time we got to Montreal, it was just about halfway through the | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
holiday. We'd come to the decision, sadly, | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
that we were most probably going to have to leave and fly home. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:32 | |
However, to their relief, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
after making their concerns known to the crew, they were moved to a | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
different part of the ship. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
We were moved into another cabin, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
which wasn't quite as large as the one we had, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
but it actually did move us on to another deck, which improved... | 0:19:44 | 0:19:49 | |
The paint fumes weren't as bad on that deck. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
-I'm sitting there while they're painting. -Yeah. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
But they couldn't escape them completely, and Graham and Judy say | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
painters continued working in public areas throughout the trip. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:02 | |
When they got back home, Graham decided to put in a complaint to the | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
company operating Marco Polo, Cruise & Maritime Voyages. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
I wrote to the company and initially I thought I was | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
getting a sympathetic ear. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:13 | |
The company responded to Graham, saying it was looking into the | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
matter further. But after some more | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
correspondence, it ultimately concluded that | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
all the relevant rules had been followed. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
So, not content with that, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
Graham decided to see if he could get someone else | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
to take his complaint on board. However, | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
working out just who that should be wasn't immediately obvious. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
I contacted the Port of London Authority for advice. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
They said, "You should try the country of registration of the ship because | 0:20:41 | 0:20:46 | |
"the country of registration of the ship are responsible for what happens | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
"on that ship." | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
So in this case, it didn't really matter that Cruise & Maritime Voyages has its headquarters in | 0:20:52 | 0:20:57 | |
the UK, the key factor was the country where the ship was registered, and | 0:20:57 | 0:21:03 | |
it's usually that country's rules which apply on board. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
But in this case, that was 4,000 | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
miles away from Graham, in the Bahamas. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
I wrote a letter to them pointing out what had happened, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
the problems on board, | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
all that sort of thing and I never got a reply even. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
Whilst writing to the Bahamian authorities about a cruise ship company | 0:21:19 | 0:21:24 | |
with its headquarters in Essex might sound a little odd, | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
in fact it's not all that uncommon because, though you may never have | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
realised it, most cruise ships operate under what's known as a | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
flag of convenience, which means they're officially registered in a country | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
that's perhaps miles away from where you might assume they were based, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
as Mark Watson from Tourism Concern explains. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
Flags of convenience are used by the shipping industry to register their | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
ships in countries other than the country where they come from. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
So a UK-operated cruise ship, for instance, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
can register under Liberian regulations, the Bahamas, | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
the Marshall Islands, even Mongolia, which is a landlocked state. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
And then the ship is controlled by the regulations of that country, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
so things like employment rights, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
health and safety and all legal rights for consumers are governed by | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
the rules of the flag country rather than the home country. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
So that means any problems you might have relating to a ship's upkeep, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
structure or, as with Graham, its maintenance, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
will be subject to the laws of the flag state, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
in this case the Bahamas, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:27 | |
and not those of the country where its parent company is based. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
And whilst there's nothing to suggest that any of this would have | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
an effect on how the Marco Polo was being maintained, | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
Mark says it does mean that establishing which country's rules a | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
ship is legally bound by may prove more difficult than you'd expect. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:46 | |
Flags of convenience first came around in the '50s, where many American | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
companies registered in Panama to avoid US regulations, and that still | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
applies now. The cruise ship companies register in countries with | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
very poor regulations, so it cuts down on the cost for them and the red tape and | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
they only have to operate by the regulations of that country, | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
which quite often has very poor labour standards, | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
very poor health and safety standards and very poor legal regulations | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
around operating a cruise ship. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
Now, there's no suggestion that Cruise & Maritime Voyages | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
or any of the best-known cruise companies, for that matter, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
are cutting corners or ducking their responsibilities | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
by registering their ships in this way. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
In fact, there are plenty of reasons why a ship might be registered | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
in another country, not least, for example, so that it can hold | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
a wedding at sea which is illegal under British rules, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
but not those of some other countries. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
However, chances are a lot of cruise passengers simply hadn't realised | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
that some of the biggest names in the industry | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
register their vessels in places they perhaps did not expect. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
Take, for instance, Southampton-based P&O Cruises. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
Most of its ships are registered in Bermuda, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
including their oldest liner, the Oriana. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
The brand-new Carnival Vista, jewel in the crown of Carnival Cruises, | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
along with the rest of Carnival's fleet, is registered in Panama. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:06 | |
Cruise legend Cunard, considered by many a British institution, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
now also registers all of its ships in Bermuda. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
And Scandinavian-sounding Norwegian Cruise Line | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
registers most of its ships more than 4,000 miles away from Norway | 0:24:17 | 0:24:22 | |
in the Bahamas, just like the Marco Polo. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
Even so, if you do have a complaint about a cruise, | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
you'd hope that whatever laws its owners appear to be bound by, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
they'd still want to put it right. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
If something goes wrong on a cruise ship, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:35 | |
then the first port of call would be the cruise ship company themselves | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
and that would be the best chance of getting anything resolved. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
The difficulty is if you need to escalate it further, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
where do you go? | 0:24:45 | 0:24:46 | |
If the cruise ship don't address the issue, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
there are very few other places to go, particularly to do that. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
But I'm pleased to say that when flying the Rip-Off Britain flag, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
we contacted Cruise & Maritime Voyages about Graham's case, | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
we got a response from its UK office right away, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
so there was no need to go all round the world looking for answers. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
The company reiterated that it has | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
fully investigated Graham's concerns, but says | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
it only uses approved indoor and outdoor paints | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
and that it goes to great lengths to ensure any maintenance operations | 0:25:15 | 0:25:20 | |
do not interfere with passengers' enjoyment. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
It says of the 150,000 passengers it's carried on the Marco Polo, | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
Graham and Judy's is the only complaint it has received | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
regarding paint use onboard. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
What's more, it robustly dismissed any concerns | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
over flags of convenience, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
saying a ship's flag in no way allows it to avoid | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
very stringent international health and safety standards, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
or consumer protection regulations, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
pointing out that all cruise ships are subject to international safety | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
regulation coordinated by a dedicated UN agency, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
the International Maritime Organisation. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
And those operating in the EU must follow... | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
And while the company has, nevertheless, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
apologised for any inconvenience, | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
Graham still feels the situation should never have arisen. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
It was a good cruise in many ways, but the paint fumes ruined it. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:21 | |
It shouldn't have and we paid good money for it. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
We didn't get value for money. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
Still to come on Rip-Off Britain, | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
a holiday cut short by a life-changing accident, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
but whose responsibility is it to put things right? | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
If that had have been me, I wouldn't have been as strong. I'd have died. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
I used to look at that and think, "I'm not going to get out of here". | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
Our travel expert, Simon Calder, | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
has all the secrets to save you money on your travels. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
He is also full of tips on everything, | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
from how to avoid the crowds to the best way to steer clear | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
of those tourist traps and scams. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
This time Simon is looking at the ever popular Balearic Islands. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
For half a century, the Spanish Isles of Majorca, | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
Menorca and Ibiza have been among our very favourite holiday destinations. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:20 | |
Yet, what began as cheap and cheerful islands, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
can sometimes these days be ferociously expensive, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
so let me help you enjoy the Balearics on a budget. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
And the best time to start saving is as soon as you arrive. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
Every time I touch down at one of the island's airports, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
there's a great long line of people queueing up for rental cars, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
and I walk straight past. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
The public transport is widespread, efficient and extremely good value. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
On Majorca for example, for just five euros, | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
a bus will get you from Palma airport into the city centre, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
where you can join the excellent train network to the rest of the island. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
From Mahon airport on neighbouring Menorca, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
the fare on the number 10 bus into town is 2.65 euros. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:08 | |
And the bus from Ibiza airport is also a number 10, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
but the fare is a tiny bit higher at 3.50 euros. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
But if you do decide to forego public transport and rent a car, | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
picking up the vehicle in the city centre is likely to be cheaper, | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
without the airport surcharge. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:23 | |
If there's one thing that might make you sleep a little less soundly | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
in the Balearics, it could be the controversial bed tax, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
introduced in the summer of 2016. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
The tax is on a sliding scale from 50 cents per person per night, | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
if you are camping or staying in a hostel, | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
to two euros for luxury hotels and upmarket apartments. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
From nine nights onwards, | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
the tax is halved and the children under 16 go free. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
So for example, a couple spending a fortnight at a four-star apartment | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
will now pay an extra £40 or so at today's exchange rate. | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
But you can reduce the tax | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
by choosing a lower grade of accommodation, | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
visiting the Balearics between November and March | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
when tax rates are halved, or going somewhere else. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
And timing your sightseeing correctly | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
can also save you some cash. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
Majorca's Miro Museum on the outskirts of Palma is best seen on a Saturday | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
when it's absolutely free. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
And on Menorca, just on the way in from the airport, | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
the amazing Cornia Nou, which is an ancient 3,000 year-old watchtower, | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
is another absolutely free attraction, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
but do check the opening times because they vary during the week. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:36 | |
Best of all, in generous Ibiza, Mace, the fabulous museum | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
of contemporary art, is free every single day of the week, | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
except Mondays, when it's closed. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
Finally, why stick to just one island | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
when it's so easy to go Spanish island hopping? | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
Each of the biggest islands has a very different vibe, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
so do check the sailing times and don't limit yourself | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
to just one of the Balearics. | 0:29:57 | 0:29:58 | |
You can squeeze in two, and you never know, maybe all three! | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
Now, as you know, every year we have our pop-up shop. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
It's a drop-in advice clinic where you can share your experiences | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
with us, and most important of all, our experts. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
It's all done face-to-face. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:16 | |
Last time around, I heard one story that really did stick in my mind, | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
and not just because of the dramatic results involved, | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
but what struck me about it the most | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
was the way it underlines how important it can be | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
when things go wrong to have somebody acknowledge the extent | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
of what you have been through, and really, just to properly listen | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
to exactly what has happened. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
Well, the rest of our team found this particular case | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
especially memorable, so all of us wanted to find out more. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
This year as ever, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:47 | |
our Rip-Off Britain pop-up shop helped dozens of viewers | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
get an instant resolution to their problem. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
-Thank you very much. -It's an absolute pleasure to meet you. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
-Thank you. -We are very grateful for the help we've had. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:58 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you, thank you. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:00 | |
Isn't he a nice man? | 0:31:00 | 0:31:01 | |
Lovely. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:02 | |
But when nurses Kate, Linda, Lavinia and Diane | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
came to get some advice from Simon Calder, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
it was clear that theirs was a problem | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
we were unlikely to be able to resolve there and then. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
Tell me what happened. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
Their story started back in March 2014 | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
when the ladies had taken a dream holiday to Cuba. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
During the holiday, they decided to visit a market nearby, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
one of the local attractions, | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
and the transport they chose to get there | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
was a traditional horse and trap, which at the welcome meeting, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
the reps had pointed out could be taken from within the hotel grounds. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
We all had a coffee, changed some money. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
We're all upbeat and happy. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
We just went outside, we were directed to the horse and trap... | 0:31:46 | 0:31:51 | |
This is right outside your hotel? | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
It's within the hotel grounds. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:54 | |
So we climbed aboard and off we went and within ten minutes, | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
the nightmare began. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
After a sudden, loud crashing noise, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
part of the steel harness became detached from the horse. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
As a result, the cart started to wobble violently | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
and the panicked horse ran off the road, up a steep embankment, | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
dragging the cart and all its passengers along after it. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:16 | |
Diane managed to jump out of the trap, shortly before it overturned, | 0:32:16 | 0:32:20 | |
with the other ladies, I'm afraid, trapped inside. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
What state were you all in then? | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
You must have been petrified? | 0:32:26 | 0:32:27 | |
I must've lost consciousness because I don't really remember very much. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:32 | |
My arm was fractured in four places | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
and the cart had actually landed on my pelvis and it was fractured, | 0:32:34 | 0:32:39 | |
it was dreadful. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
Really dreadful, because the ladies all sustained injuries. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
With a fractured pelvis and left arm, | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
Linda spent 11 days in a Cuban hospital, | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
where the enormity of having such a serious accident | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
in a foreign country soon hit home. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
Just get me home now. | 0:32:57 | 0:32:58 | |
Lavinia, Diane's 72-year-old mum, was left with a neck injury | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
and both she and her friend Kate suffered from concussion. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
Diane had damage to her right shoulder, elbow and hand. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
All of them were treated for their injuries in hospital. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
But thousands of miles from home, | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
the whole experience was a really traumatic one. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
You just want to get home, don't you, Lind? | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
I do. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:22 | |
With their holiday totally ruined, as soon as they were well enough, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
the ladies flew back to the UK, | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
Linda by air ambulance. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
But their journey to recovery was only just beginning. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
As nurses with such busy and physically demanding jobs, | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
the impact of their injuries on their lives was even more dramatic. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
Diane needed five months off work and 18 months of physiotherapy. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:44 | |
Indeed, she was just recovering from a further operation | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
to remove some bone from her damaged shoulder | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
when she came to see us at the pop-up shop. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
Lavinia, Diane's mother, suffered headaches | 0:33:53 | 0:33:55 | |
and the accident has left her severely shaken. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
Kate, who received a blow to the head, has been similarly affected. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
And for Linda, the injuries she sustained | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
have had such a lasting impact that she was forced to take | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
early retirement from the nursing career she just loved, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
and she still experiences severe pain from her broken pelvis. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:16 | |
I mean, that is just all so terrifying, isn't it? | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
And in fact you've brought some photographs, have a look at these. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
-Oh, crikey. -This is obviously Linda. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
Yes. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:25 | |
In hospital. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
So I mean, it's just horrendous. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
It's not just the injuries that have had an effect on the ladies, | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
they all feel that the ways in which the incident has been handled | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
by both their tour operator and their various insurers, | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
only added to their distress. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
What an awful experience for you all and I understand | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
it's still causing you a lot of problems today. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
Let me try to extract the key things here. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:55 | |
There you were on the holiday of a lifetime to a beautiful, | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
fascinating, but very poor country, Cuba. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
You suffer an appalling accident as a result of somebody's negligence. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:09 | |
That seems to be fairly clear, | 0:35:09 | 0:35:10 | |
but it's also clear that the negligence was committed | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
by somebody who...there's no point suing | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
because even if you can track him down, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
you're going to find he's very poor and therefore, | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
you are stuck with possibly talking to your tour operator, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:28 | |
who is going to say, at the welcome meeting we certainly mentioned | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
that these things existed, we did not recommend it | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
and crucially, we did not sell you that tour, | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
you decided to enter into a contract with the provider of that | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
horse and trap journey and therefore your issue is with them. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:46 | |
-They've already said that. -I'm not surprised. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:48 | |
So having no luck with their travel company, | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
and with any legal action against the horse and cart owner | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
unlikely to succeed, the ladies turned to their insurance companies | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
to see what compensation they might be able to offer | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
for the life-changing injuries they've suffered. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
Did you have travel insurance? | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
-Yes. -All of you? -Yes. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:09 | |
I fear the travel insurance will just say, | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
"Look, all we are doing is providing backup when things go wrong, | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
and if people are going to go off and be adventurous | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
"in wonderful countries, sadly, things will happen. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
"All we are doing is picking up the pieces afterwards | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
"to the extent that we are able to, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
"and unfortunately we are not going to have any kind of long-term | 0:36:27 | 0:36:32 | |
"responsibility for you, for your condition." | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
Well, only two of the ladies received any money | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
from their various insurance companies. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
Lavinia and Kate received £1,200 each, | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
but Diane and Linda haven't received one penny. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
And in Diane's case, she says that's because her insurers told her | 0:36:49 | 0:36:53 | |
they would only pay out if they thought legal action | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
would end in a successful outcome. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
And with the horse and cart driver based in Cuba, | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
it didn't seem there was much chance of that one. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
But although the ladies all feel they should be able | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
to blame someone or take their case further, | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
Simon can't see that there's anything more they can do, | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
and that news is a bitter blow. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
What is making you upset? | 0:37:16 | 0:37:17 | |
The fact that there seems to be little redress? | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
Is that what's making you upset? | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
No, it's just the photographs bring it back. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
I think to myself, a lovely holiday, my whole life's changed. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:29 | |
A career that I loved has gone. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:33 | |
So sad and it's clear to see how raw this whole experience has been. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
So Simon asked Martin James from the Financial Ombudsman Service | 0:37:37 | 0:37:41 | |
what he made of how this tricky case had been handled. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:45 | |
One of the things that's really, really important | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
is knowing that you've actually done as much as you can | 0:37:47 | 0:37:51 | |
and at least your voice has been heard. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
I get the impression you've really not been listened to very much. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
Only today. | 0:37:57 | 0:37:58 | |
Certainly, there are lots of restrictions on insurance policies, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
but the question is what's the right thing to do here? | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
Sometimes insurance companies can be very, very literal, | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
and actually it's just a case of finding somebody in charge | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
to have a look at the whole situation. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
I'll ask one of our experts if we can look at the cases together | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
and see if we can get the insurance company just to kind of respond to you, | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
-and, at the very least, we'll make sure your voice is heard. -Thank you. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
A little bit of hope, but what struck me | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
about the ladies' experience was how a fleeting moment on their holiday | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
had so impacted their day-to-day lives. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
And back at home away from the bustle of the pop-up shop, | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
it's very clear to see the women were still coming to terms | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
with what had happened to them. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
Just get me home. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
If that had been me, | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
I wouldn't have been as strong, I'd have died. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
I used to look at that and think, "I'm not going to get out of here." | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
I've started already! | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
I know, don't worry, Lind. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
My life's completely changed. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
Even sitting here now, | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
I'm in pain down this side | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
because this is the side where the actual, | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
the fractures at the back, it buckled. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
It's going to be there always, every time it starts up, | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
I need to do physio. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:16 | |
Now, dreadful as this case is, | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
it's a very useful reminder of the limitations of what any | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
travel insurance policy you might have is likely to cover. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
Because once the overseas medical bills have been paid | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
and the cost of getting home has been covered, | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
the insurer's responsibility actually ends there. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
And even though the horse and cart may have been suggested | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
by the holiday rep as a means of getting around, | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
the journey the ladies took was certainly taken | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
very much at their very own risk, | 0:39:43 | 0:39:44 | |
a fact they have found out a very hard way. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
It all has an impact, I think, because when I came back | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
I was chatting to people about it and there was a degree | 0:39:52 | 0:39:56 | |
of post-traumatic stress there. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
And I don't think that's gone, because I don't talk about it. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
The difficulty though, Linda, is, that when we talk about it, | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
we relive the whole event. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
Yeah. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:09 | |
Well, after we filmed with the women, | 0:40:13 | 0:40:15 | |
in one of his last acts before leaving the Financial Ombudsman Service, | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
Martin James reported back to us with the news | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
that although the insurance companies in Lavinia, Kate and Linda's case | 0:40:21 | 0:40:26 | |
had not acted improperly, his team's investigation had decided | 0:40:26 | 0:40:30 | |
that in the case of Diane, the insurance company | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
and its underwriters could have done better in communicating | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
their reasons for not paying out, | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
and as a result, they promised £150 by way of apology. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:42 | |
But far more important than the money for all of the women | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
is having had someone to listen to their complaint | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
and take it seriously, and that's something I'm very glad to say | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
we were able to provide at the pop-up shop that day. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
And although that isn't to say the ending is a happy one, | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
they'd all agree that it's gone a little way towards speeding up their recovery. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:04 | |
I was absolutely thrilled | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
and we were really excited that actually we'd have the chance | 0:41:07 | 0:41:11 | |
to go and tell our story. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
That's all I contacted Rip-Off Britain for, | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
was to generate a little bit of public awareness | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
of when you're involved in something bad like we were, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
nobody really is there to help you. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
If you have a story you'd like us to investigate, | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
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Well, we've heard some deeply upsetting stories | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
on the programme today, and I have to say | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
I feel real sympathy for those women who had that awful accident in Cuba. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
Not only was the trauma itself difficult to bear, | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
but what's equally harsh is the fact that it seems | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
there isn't really anyone who can take responsibility. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
They just have to try and move on and put it all behind them. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
And so, I think you can totally understand and see | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
why they just wanted someone, at the very least, | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
to listen to what they've been through. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
And you know, I do think that, quite often, | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
just being heard can mean as much as compensation to some people, | 0:42:55 | 0:42:59 | |
and it's pretty obvious that, sometimes, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
big companies just forget that, don't they? | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
Yes, they do. And I think what we've all learned from today | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
is the fact that, no matter what the situation is, | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
we want people at least to listen to us and maybe give a degree | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
of understanding or sympathy, whatever goes with the territory, | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
but generally, it's how an incident is dealt with | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
that can make all the difference, and I think, on that note, | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
that's where we've got to leave it for today. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:21 | |
But do please keep sending in your stories and your experiences. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:25 | |
Not just about holidays, of course, | 0:43:25 | 0:43:27 | |
but on any topic whatsoever that you'd like us to investigate. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:30 | |
We've got lots more programmes coming up this year. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
But for now, thank you very much for your company, | 0:43:33 | 0:43:35 | |
hope you've enjoyed the programme, and from all of us, bye-bye. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:37 | |
-Goodbye. -Goodbye. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:39 |