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We asked you, who's left you feeling ripped off when it comes to your | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
holidays? And you came back with a catalogue of travel disasters. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:10 | |
Letting us come all this way to be told we're going home on the next | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
day? Just furious! | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
It has tainted the whole experience of booking holidays and trusting | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
-companies. -So whether it's a deliberate rip-off, a simple | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
mistake, or indeed a catch in the small print, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
we'll find out why you are out of pocket, | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
and what you can do about it. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
Your stories, your money. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
This is Rip-Off Britain. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
Hello, and welcome to a very bright and sunny edition | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
of Rip-Off Britain, | 0:00:39 | 0:00:40 | |
where, for this special series, we're right here in Tenerife, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
investigating more of the problems about which you've contacted us to | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
do with holidays and travel. And I tell you, we're going to be looking | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
-at some particularly shocking cases today. -Yes, I have no doubt that one | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
or two of them will absolutely get your blood boiling, because they all | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
involve situations that have left people out of pocket, | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
severely inconvenienced or, in some cases, both, | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
thanks to the widely differing interpretation of the rules, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
and even the law. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
Now, in some cases, the regulations have simply been misunderstood. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:13 | |
But for the rest, let us just say that the rules are a little unclear, | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
allowing the companies involved to have it all their way, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
while, one way or another, you lose out. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
Well, we're going to have the information you need to make sure | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
that doesn't happen to you on your next trip. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
Coming up...the airlines routinely overbooking their flights. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
Could that mean your holiday starts the way this woman's did, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
by being split up from her family | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
and refused the seat that she'd paid for? | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
When I had to wave goodbye to the children, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
I was trying so hard to smile, | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
but I was still crying. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
And Paralympian Libby Clegg exposes the hotels that risk breaking the | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
law by telling guests their guide dogs can't stay. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
He just turned round to me and went, "No dogs allowed." | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
And I was just like, "You can't refuse her, you're breaking the law." | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
If you've ever booked a particular flight for a holiday or a business | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
trip, say, then the chances are it's because that is the flight you want | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
to be on. So you pay your money, job done. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
Not necessarily so. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
Unfortunately, there are some airlines who are repeatedly | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
overbooking their flights, which means, when you get to the airport, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
somebody has got to get off that plane. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
Now, usually they do ask for volunteers | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
and put them on a different flight. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
But as you've been telling us, it's not always that simple, | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
and it can be a very distressing situation. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
But hopefully not anything like as distressing as the situation that | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
occurred when one airline, who used a method to free up a seat which, | 0:02:42 | 0:02:47 | |
well, frankly, made headlines all over the world. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
SCREAMING | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
It's hard to forget this mobile phone footage of a distressed | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
passenger being dragged off a United Airlines flight. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
No, this is wrong! Oh, my God, look at what you did to him! | 0:03:01 | 0:03:06 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:03:06 | 0:03:07 | |
Staff forcibly removed from the plane a man who refused to give up | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
his seat when the airline said that it needed it. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
United has since apologised to the man and compensated him, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
but the case certainly brought to focus the issue of overbooking on | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
flights. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
And while such heavy-handed tactics are not likely to be repeated, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
the numbers of passengers who lose their already paid for seats on | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
planes is estimated at around 50,000 people every year. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
Now, that's not always bad news, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
as volunteers do usually receive some sort of compensation. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
But it's one thing to choose to leave an overbooked flight, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
quite another to have that decision made for you. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
Especially if you're about to take off on a family holiday, | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
which is exactly what happened to Iona Delgado and her husband, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
and their two children, | 0:03:56 | 0:03:57 | |
when they were due to board a flight from Cardiff to Alicante, | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
with the Spanish airline Vueling. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
We go to Spain usually once or twice a year, because my husband's | 0:04:02 | 0:04:07 | |
Spanish, so we go to visit his family. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
The children love going because they get to see their family and have a | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
bit of sun, as well, and have a holiday. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
On the day of the flight, with two children and all of their luggage, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
Iona and her husband arrived at Cardiff Airport in good time to | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
check in. But when they got to the Vueling desk, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
they were in for a shock. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
The lady looked a bit hesitant, slightly confused, and then she | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
said, "Unfortunately, only three of you can fly today." | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
So...I... | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
Well, I laughed at first and said, "What do you mean? | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
"There's four of us, we've got four tickets." | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
And she said, "Well, the flight's overbooked, so only three of you can fly." | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
To solve the overbooking problem, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
passengers had been randomly selected to be taken off the flight | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
they'd chosen and bumped onto the next available, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
and Iona's husband was among those picked. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
Well, we were just absolutely gobsmacked. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
I just thought, "This is crazy, there's no way that he's not going to fly." | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
Unfortunately, there was no room for negotiation. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
Only three of the family could fly together. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
They reluctantly decided that it made more sense for it to be Iona | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
that stayed behind, as the hire car in Spain was in her husband's name. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:19 | |
So the devastated mum had no choice but to stand and watch as the rest | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
of the family set off on holiday without her. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
When I had to wave goodbye to the children, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
I was trying so hard to smile... | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
..but I was still crying, and no matter how hard I tried, | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
I couldn't stop crying. And they could see that. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
And I just felt terrible, waving goodbye to them... | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
..knowing that they were going to be upset getting on the plane. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
11-year-old Luis felt terrible leaving his mum behind. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
It was really upsetting, and I just... | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
Yeah, I just felt really sad. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
And I felt really bad for her, as well. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
To make matters worse, the next available flight wasn't a simple one. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
Iona had to fly via Amsterdam, stay overnight there, | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
and then fly on to Alicante the next day. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
We booked this holiday six months before, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
we'd been looking forward to it, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
the first holiday that the four of us had gone on in a long time. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
And suddenly, because of overbooking, one of us can't fly. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
It just ruins the whole thing. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
Iona was offered 250 euros in compensation, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
but she doesn't feel that that makes up for losing a day of her family | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
-holiday. -I definitely don't think the compensation was worth it. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:36 | |
I would have much rather been with my family than having the 250 euros | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
compensation. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
I really don't think they should be doing this. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
I just don't really see the point of it, the benefit. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
You know, you're spoiling people's holidays, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
and it's not the right thing to do. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
Well, when we contacted the airline, Vueling, | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
it apologised for the inconvenience caused to Iona and her family, | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
but said that overbooking is a commercial practice implemented by | 0:07:00 | 0:07:05 | |
most airlines in order to offer the best rates to customers. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
It stressed it always aims to offer the best possible alternatives to | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
those affected - in this case, | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
booking Iona on the next available flight to minimise disruption, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
and that it meets all European Union regulations regarding compensation. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
Now, of course, the number of passengers who are denied boarding | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
because their seats are overbooked is just a small percentage | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
of the millions of passengers who fly every year. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
But for those like Iona, who don't get a say in the matter, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
it can cause huge stress and disappointment. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
And it can be hard to understand why on earth airlines would want to | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
overbook seats anyway. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
Well, airline pricing expert Oliver Ranson says, as ever, | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
it all comes down to money. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
Airlines overbook flights because they operate in a very tough | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
economic environment where the sale of every seat matters. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
The more passengers they can get onto the plane, the better. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
And sometimes, when passengers don't turn up for their flight, | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
that would mean that, if they hadn't overbooked, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
a seat would have been wasted. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
Oliver says that, when managed properly, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
overbooking can help airlines make some extra profit, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
allowing them to balance out some of the heavy losses that they may | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
suffer in other parts of the business | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
without needing to increase fares. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
Sometimes airlines won't overbook flights at all. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
On a flight to Florida in the summer, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
where every passenger is starting in London, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
it's very unlikely that the airline is going to overbook because they | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
know that everyone is going to show up for that flight. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
On the other hand, a busy business flight, | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
London to Frankfurt for example, could have a lot of travellers | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
cancelling because their plans change. And when that happens, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
the airline will know that they can overbook by a good proportion, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
sometimes by up to 50%, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
and the flight will still go with some seats empty. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
Airlines have to follow very clear EU regulations when dealing with | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
overbooked passengers. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
They should start by asking for volunteers, | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
who will usually be offered money as an incentive. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
But if there aren't enough, | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
they are able to deny boarding to passengers, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
provided they offer compensation, cover certain out-of-pocket | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
expenses, and arrange an alternative flight as soon as possible. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
But among those unhappy about the whole practice of overbooking is | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
Casper Reid, from West Sussex, and his mum Stephanie. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
In the summer of 2017, Casper, who was 15 at the time, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
was flying solo from Gatwick to Toulouse with EasyJet, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
to visit his grandparents in France. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
I went to the airport, we did the check-in, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
we were given a boarding pass, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
and I left him at the departure gate, and everything was fine. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
With Casper airside and ready to fly, Stephanie made her way home. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:45 | |
But she soon received an unexpected call. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
He called to say it was, he had been kicked off the plane. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
So, you know, I was a bit... | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
..shocked and surprised, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
and I could feel in his voice that he was really upset. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
Stephanie raced back to the airport to find Casper in the departure | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
lounge. Despite being a child, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
he'd been told by EasyJet staff that, as the plane was overbooked, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
he'd have to sit and wait for the next available flight. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
I think it was really disgraceful | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
that he was kicked off the plane and left on his own in the departure | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
zone...not knowing what to do. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
To make matters worse, both the next two flights were fully booked, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
meaning that Casper had to wait | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
another ten hours before he could fly. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
I think the way EasyJet treated my son was really appalling. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
I think it was really irresponsible and unprofessional. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
Casper wasn't best pleased, either. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
Not least because he felt there were other passengers flying on their own | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
that might have been better for the airline to bump from the flight | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
-instead of him. -I got annoyed, cos I was a child. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
There was a young 25, 30-year-old man there, | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
and he could've easily got off for me. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
But according to EasyJet's terms, though Casper is classed as a child, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:02 | |
14 to 15-year-olds can travel on their own, just like an adult. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
As a result, when the airline couldn't get volunteers and picked | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
the people who wouldn't be able to board, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
he was lumped in with everyone else. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
Even so, there's been a positive development on the story. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
When we contacted EasyJet, it told us that, since Casper's experience, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
it's reviewed and changed its procedures to protect unaccompanied | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
minors being overbooked. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
The airline added that it had apologised to Casper at the time, | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
looked after him at the airport, and offered the required compensation. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
EasyJet went on to say that, in 97% of cases, it gets overbooking right, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:42 | |
and that less than 1% of passengers are ever denied boarding. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
What's more, the company says that, if it didn't overbook and flew | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
with emptier planes due to no-shows, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
then it would force up prices for everyone else. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
But Stephanie, and the many of you who've contacted us about this | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
issue, still thinks if you've booked and paid for a particular flight, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
you should be on it. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
I think the overbooking system is really wrong, | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
and when you buy your ticket, it should be... | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
..you should have a seat guaranteed. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
Now, not all airlines routinely overbook. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
In fact, some, for example Ryanair, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
says it's the only airline in Europe not to do so. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
US airline JetBlue also promises no overbooking. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
But it is done by just about everyone else. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
So Oliver Ranson would like to see the airlines introduce fairer, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
more transparent systems when | 0:12:33 | 0:12:34 | |
selecting which passengers to remove. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
Sometimes overbooking goes wrong, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
and airlines can really improve the selection process. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
They can take into account individual circumstances much better | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
than they do, and they should be more persistent | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
in calling for volunteers. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
But if no amount of cash would tempt you to volunteer, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
and you'd really rather stay on the flight that you've chosen, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
Oliver has some tips to reduce the chance of being asked to leave an | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
overbooked plane. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
My top tips to avoid being bumped off are joining the | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
airline's frequent-flyer scheme, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:04 | |
so that they know you're a loyal customer. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
Checking in online, plenty of time ahead, | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
so that they know that you're going to come. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
And turning up at the airport early, so that they know you're there. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
My secret tip is to order an in-flight meal, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
and you'll be their top priority to get on board. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
But after her experience, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
Iona, too, would like to see the airlines review their overbooking | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
procedures, so that other families | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
don't have their holidays ruined in the same way as hers. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
I don't agree with overbooking but, if it does happen, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
there should be a system in place to make sure that | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
everyone gets the same treatment. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
There are certain elements of travelling - for example, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
navigating your way around an unfamiliar place, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
getting on public transport, or indeed checking into hotels - | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
which although part of the adventure, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:52 | |
can sometimes be a bit of a challenge. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
And for anyone who is blind or partially-sighted, | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
they can be even more daunting. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
But thanks to fully-trained assistance dogs that go everywhere | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
with their owners and help them with even the smallest of tasks, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
these obstacles can very easily be overcome. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
In fact, so essential are these animals that today | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
it's the law to accommodate them in public places. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
But it's clear that not all hotels have quite got that message. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
As one of the fastest women on Earth, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
champion sprinter Libby Clegg is well used to being under pressure. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
But over the last few years, | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
she's earned dozens of awards for her athletic ability. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -And Libby Clegg gets the Gold medal! | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
Her most recent world famous being two Golds at the Rio 2016 | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
Paralympics. Libby's eye condition | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
means that her sight is deteriorating, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
but clearly that has never held her back. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
I am a really independent person, and that's through my sport. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
I've had the confidence over the years to deal with different | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
situations, so I never really let it get me down in the sense | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
that I wouldn't go out and do stuff. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
Off the track, Libby is helped with day-to-day activities by Hattie, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
a very clever guide dog. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
I've had Hattie, my guide dog, for just over three years now. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
And ever since I've had her, it's just been absolutely life-changing. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
I don't feel as anxious crossing roads. It's much safer. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
I don't bump into people as much as I did before. SHE LAUGHS | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
With Hattie by her side, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
Libby says there's not much that she actually can't do. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
And wherever she goes, Hattie goes as well. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
In fact, the law in the UK's very clear about that. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
From major events to pubs and hotels, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
guide dogs or assistance dogs have to be accommodated. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
But recently, Libby experienced a problem with that | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
when trying to book a hotel. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
I was invited to go to Wimbledon and sit in the royal box. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:42 | |
So myself and my partner, you know, we're really looking forward to it. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
He also can't see very well and has a guide dog, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
so it was going to be a really nice little trip away. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
As this was a very special treat, | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
Libby pushed the boat out and booked a 5-star hotel in Central London - | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
a room for her, her partner, and their respective guide dogs. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
Normally, when I go away, I don't call the hotel to check whether I | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
can take my guide dog or not, because legally | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
they have to accept a working dog, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
an assistance dog. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
But at check-in, Libby says staff at the hotel were not as clear on the | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
law as they should've been. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
I was just explaining to the | 0:16:24 | 0:16:25 | |
gentleman on reception that I had a guide dog. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
And I was just informing him of that, so, you know, he was aware. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
And he just turned round to me and went, "No dogs allowed." | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
And I was just like, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
"Um, excuse me, it's a guide dog, like I've just said, | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
"and it's a working dog, so, you know, you can't refuse her, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
"so you're breaking the law." | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
Give me a paw. Oh, thank you, Hattie. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
-Give me your other paw. Oh, thank you. -Libby was horrified. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
She found herself having to explain that the law does make it very clear | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
that dogs like Hattie have to be accommodated. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
And it was only after discussion with the manager that both | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
assistance dogs were eventually allowed in. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
But Libby was really startled by the whole experience. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
That situation should never have happened, and, you know, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
it's definitely down to lack of staff training. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
I was really cross, because I just kind of thought, you know, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
"In this day and age, this should not be happening." | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
It really shouldn't. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
In fact, any hotel excluding a guide dog in this way, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
through ignorance or not, would be guilty of discrimination. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
But it's clear that not all places to stay are aware of that... | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
..because Cathy Albutt from Devon has experienced the same problem. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
Her son Trevor is registered blind, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
and when two of his friends, who are also blind, visited from America, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
Cathy says she too had huge problems trying to book a hotel in London for | 0:17:47 | 0:17:52 | |
them, simply because one of the group had a guide dog. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
I tried to book them into a hotel, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
and they asked how many people it was for. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
And I said, "For the four of us, plus a guide dog," | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
and immediately was told, "No pets allowed." | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
I said it wasn't a pet, it was a guide dog, a service animal, | 0:18:09 | 0:18:14 | |
to come with us to the hotel, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
and was completely turned down straightaway. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
Hoping this was a one-off, Cathy tried another hotel in the same | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
area, but we're afraid was met with the same response. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
In fact, Cathy says that all ten of the hotels she contacted said the | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
same thing - "No dogs allowed." | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
I was really angry and embarrassed, really, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
that our friends from America had come over to London, capital city, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
and we're having problems trying to find somewhere for them to stay for | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
the evening. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
Like Libby, Cathy had tried explaining that hotels have a legal | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
requirement to treat visually impaired people exactly the same as | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
everyone else, and that means accommodating their assistance dogs | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
if there's room. But she said it made no difference. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
There was no discussion at all about the reasoning, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
they just flatly said. "No, company policy." | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
Although Cathy did eventually find a place to stay, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
she was now very disappointed and hurt by the reaction she'd had. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
I was just embarrassed and disappointed that people who have | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
got a visual impairment, whether with a guide dog or not, | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
are treated so badly in all these hotels. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
Still smarting from her experiences, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
Cathy invited Libby round so that they can see if staff at the hotels | 0:19:28 | 0:19:33 | |
that turned her away are any clearer on the law now. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
-We'll give them a ring and see. -We'll give them a call now. -Yes. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
-INTERNAL RINGTONE -'Good morning.' | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
Oh, good morning. We're thinking of coming to London, | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
and want to make a booking for some people, | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
one of which has got a guide dog. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:48 | |
-It's a service animal, yes. -'Yeah.' | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you, bye-bye. -Bye. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
I kind of felt a bit bad for that man, actually, because it's | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
-obviously not his decision... -Mmm. -..and he's just following protocol. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
-It's disappointing, though. -Yeah. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
But Libby's sympathy wears thin when she sees how widespread this | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
-problem can be. -So I'm looking at coming down in the next couple of | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
-weeks... -'Yeah.' -..for two people and a guide dog. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
Yes, an assistance dog. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
-OK, thank you very much. -'Is that fine?' -Oh, dear. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
So that receptionist didn't know the rules. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
If it was company policy, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
-the management would have trained the staff... -And they didn't. -..with this incorporated in it. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
-Yeah. -And she would already know whether it was. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
-It's just disappointing, isn't it? -It's frustrating. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
It's a problem that's all-too-familiar to Helen Honstvet, | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
from the charity Guide Dogs For The Blind. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
The impact of an access refusal on an assistance dog owner can be huge. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
It can really knock somebody's confidence in going to new places, | 0:20:57 | 0:21:02 | |
and the whole point of a guide dog is to give people independence and | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
mobility. So if it's limiting the new places that people are going to | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
go to, that's a really bad thing. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
It's also against the law. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
But despite what the law says, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
the charity estimates that around 70% of blind or partially-sighted | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
people will have been turned away from shops, restaurants, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
-or public transport at some point. -DOG BARKS | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
So, after hearing Libby and Cathy's experiences, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
we wanted to get a wider sense of how many hotels might be getting | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
this wrong. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
We rang 50 hotels in popular destinations around the UK, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
each time asking to book a room, making it clear we have a guide dog. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
I use a guide dog. Would I be OK to stay at your hotel? | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
Of the 50 places we called, the overwhelming majority, 45 of them, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:55 | |
said that they would accept assistance dogs. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
But although that seems like a positive result, out of these | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
hotels, nine of them, in an experience that mirrors Libby's, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
seem very unsure, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
only agreeing after double-checking with management. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
And that's something that Helen feels really needs to be addressed. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
This really signals to me that staff are not being properly trained | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
in how to welcome disabled people, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
and assistance dog owners in particular, to their business. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
It would be really great to see businesses looking to make sure that | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
all of their staff are properly trained. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
Many already do this but, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:32 | |
where it doesn't happen, it can cause real problems. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
What's more, two of the 45 hotels that said yes made it clear that, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
although they would accept the dog, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
there would be an extra charge. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:45 | |
And what's the £10 charge for, sorry? | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
And at the second of these hotels, | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
the charge amounted to an extra 50% of the total price of the room. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
So, sorry, it's £25 for the dog, and how much for deep cleaning? | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
Of the remaining five hotels, one simply didn't know, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
and the other four? Well, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
that's where we find the most concerning behaviour. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
All of them refused to accept a guide dog for various reasons. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
My dog is trained... | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
They are all, I'm afraid, breaking the law. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
Do you know why not? | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
Why is it I can't stay in your hotel, sorry, with the dog? | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
While the majority of places we called would let a guide dog in, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
enough were unsure, or indeed got it wrong, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
to confirm Libby's fear that hotel staff do not | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
fully understand the law. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
And, as a result, people who rely on assistance dogs aren't getting the | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
equal treatment they should. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
And when Libby shared our results | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
with Helen from Guide Dogs For The Blind, she was equally unimpressed | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
with some of the detail of what we were told. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
What do you think of the two hotels that said, "Yes, but there would be a charge"? | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
It's against the law. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
Under no circumstances should they be charging you anything extra to | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
-stay there. -One of the hotels said no because they had a carpet. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:50 | |
Hotels and bed and breakfasts have a duty to welcome assistance dog | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
owners into their premises, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
and to make sure that they have the same positive experience as any | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
other guests, and the examples that you've given me definitely wouldn't | 0:24:58 | 0:25:03 | |
be cause to refuse access to an assistance dog owner. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
Well, after making those calls, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
we did contact the hotels that gave us incorrect information, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
and we put them right on what they should be saying | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
to anyone with a guide dog. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
And, back on track, Libby is determined to keep up the pressure | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
-on hotels to do the right thing. -In the service industry, you know, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:26 | |
there needs to be more knowledge on the difference between, you know, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
a guide dog or an assistance dog and, you know, a pet, | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
that there is a massive difference. It isn't a pet, it is a working dog, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
and it's there to do a job and assist the person. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
Still to come on Rip-Off Britain... | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
A precious holiday meticulously planned - | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
so why was this family's trip such a let-down? | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
I am absolutely devastated, the way I've been treated. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
More so for my grandson, who's not getting memories | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
of what...of a holiday that I wanted him to have. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
Our travel expert Simon Calder | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
is full of tips to save you money on your travels. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
He's got plenty of advice on everything, from how to avoid the | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
crowds, to the best way to steer clear of tourist traps. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
This time, it's all about one of Europe's most visited cities - | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
Barcelona. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:27 | |
Millions of visitors head to this beautiful Spanish city every year, | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
and to Las Ramblas, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:33 | |
the famous pedestrianised boulevard that runs through the heart of it. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
In August 2017, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
the Ramblas was the location for a dreadful terrorist attack. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:44 | |
Yet its popularity as a tourist destination was undimmed by that | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
-awful event. -Thankfully, such events are very rare, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
but what sadly isn't are the petty thieves who haunt not just | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
Las Ramblas, but all of Barcelona's most popular sites, | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
preying on distracted tourists. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
I've experienced attempted theft no fewer than three times. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
And so you don't learn the hard way, like Simon did, | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
here are the thieves' most common tricks to watch out for. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
The simple phone grab! | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
Keep an iron grip. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
The attempted bag snatch! | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
And the too-casually-placed wallet. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
Yes, it's a bit of a free-for-all, | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
so be very aware of your surroundings. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
And best of all, don't go out with anything you can't afford to lose. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
It's easy to see why tourists are so distracted, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
with some of the most awe-inspiring architecture in the world, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
including this - the Sagrada Familia. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
Beauty like this comes at a price - 15 euros is the standard entry fee. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
But, ever resourceful, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
Simon has found ways that at least some people can get in for less. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
If you happen to be under 30, take your passport. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
You'll save two euros. | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
And if you have younger children, | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
take them before their 11th birthday - | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
they'll get in free. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
And if Barcelona itself isn't enough, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
then Spain's fabulous train network can shuttle you to an entirely | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
different city in next to no time. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
In under three hours, you can be in the Spanish capital, Madrid, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
or even across the border | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
in the beautiful French city of Montpellier. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
As always, book well ahead to get the best fares. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
Now, we all know that some holidays take months to arrange. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
Working out exactly where you want to go, | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
and whether it's got the facilities to keep everyone you're travelling | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
with happy, involves a lot of time and effort. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
So, if the holiday company you booked with suddenly changes one or | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
other element of your carefully-planned and | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
put-together trip, | 0:28:49 | 0:28:50 | |
it could be very annoying and make a big difference to how much you enjoy | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
it. That's especially the case if what's being altered is something | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
which you think is fundamental. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
In your terms, it's a major change to what you'd envisaged. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
Trouble is, what you consider to be major may be rather more minor to | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
the holiday company, and that's a difference of opinion that can | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
lead to a real problem. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
The perfect holiday takes a lot of planning. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
Whether it's choosing flights at a particular time, | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
or finding a hotel with just the right combination of activities and | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
facilities, you may have put a lot of effort into | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
pulling all the elements together. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
When Lynn Crawford, from County Durham, was organising a holiday for | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
her grandson Jaden and his mum Claire, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
she knew exactly what she wanted. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
I promised my grandson of two years old that I would take him on holiday | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
when he was six, to have memories. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
The holiday was just for him, I wanted him to be occupied, | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
from getting up to going to bed. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
I wanted play areas, splash parks, clubs, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
whatever, to keep him busy all day. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
So Lynn went to her local travel agent, Hays Travel, | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
where she was thrilled to hear about an all-inclusive holiday to Tenerife | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
with Jet2holidays, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
which seemed, from the website, to tick all the boxes. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
When I went to see the agent, | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
she told me that there was apartments in Los Cristianos that | 0:30:11 | 0:30:16 | |
had an indoor play area, it had a swimming pool, it had a splash park, | 0:30:16 | 0:30:21 | |
and that there was activities for Jaden all day, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:25 | |
which sounded absolutely perfect. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
The only snag was that the picture of the splash park on the hotel's | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
website was labelled as an artist's impression. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
I asked about the splash park and why it was artist impressions, and | 0:30:36 | 0:30:41 | |
they said that they hadn't received the photographs yet of the new one. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:46 | |
Lynn was told that the splash park was still being built, | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
and while the notes on the agent's system stated it would be ready for | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
summer 2017, there was a chance it might not be fully open. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
Even so, Lynn continued with the booking, | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
happy that, with the soft play area and the children's entertainment, | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
there'd still be plenty for Jaden to do. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
-What have you done? Fall? -But just four days before their trip, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
Lynn and Claire received an e-mail from Jet2holidays, | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
telling them that the hotel's indoor soft play area, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
which Jaden had been especially looking forward to, was closed. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:21 | |
I was absolutely gutted, but there was so much else in the package that | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
would keep him entertained that we were still looking forward to going, | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
and Jaden was still excited about going, | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
even though he knew that he wouldn't be able to play indoors. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
So the family made the trip to Tenerife, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
confident that this child-friendly hotel would keep Jaden entertained. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
But, on arrival, Lynn, Claire, | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
and Jaden couldn't find any sign of the much anticipated splash park. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:45 | |
Far from being unfinished, | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
it appeared to them that building work hadn't even started. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
We did have a look around the hotel. It was built up around the pool. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
There was the bar, there was the rooms, there was no splash park | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
anywhere. We looked, for the life of us, we looked, we couldn't find it. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
And when they asked at reception, | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
they were told the splash park was being built, | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
but it was only in the very early stages. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
He was absolutely devastated. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
He has been to a splash park before, so he knows what one is, | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
and to know that it's not there, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
he was absolutely gutted. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
The hotel did offer the family unlimited passes to another water | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
park out of the resort, but that was a bus ride away, | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
so it didn't make up for not having the expected splash park onsite. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
It all felt very different from the family-friendly hotel that Lynn had | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
deliberately chosen. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
It wasn't catered for kids at all. There was no splash park, | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
there was no entertainment for him. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
As far as Lynn's concerned, she didn't get the holiday she paid for. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:50 | |
So when she arrived back in the UK, she complained to the travel agent, | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
who referred her back to the package provider, Jet2holidays, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
but that company disagreed that the holiday had been ruined. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
As far as my complaint for the holiday, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
I just got the impression that, "You've had a holiday," | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
and that just nobody was taking me serious. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
The company also told Lynn that children's entertainment is subject | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
to change, depending on season and occupancy level. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
But Lynn says this wasn't something she was told | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
when she booked the trip. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
And in any case, it wasn't just one child-friendly element she felt was | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
missing - it was all of them. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
And for her, that was a major change from what she'd booked. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
To some people, this might not be a big issue to them. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
If the splash park wasn't there, or the soft play area wasn't there. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:43 | |
But to me, it was a one-off holiday that I paid for, | 0:33:43 | 0:33:48 | |
for everything to be there for Jaden. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
Just for Jaden. And we didn't get that. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
And solicitor Gary Rycroft agrees. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
He can see why Lynn feels aggrieved, | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
and he believes that she shouldn't give up on her complaint. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
You aren't going to be able to bring a claim if the weather isn't quite | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
as nice as you were expecting, | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
but you are going to be able to bring a claim if you think the value | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
of your holiday wasn't what you paid for, | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
because there weren't facilities that you were, in essence, | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
paying for under the contract, | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
or if there have been things that have happened which have | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
significantly reduced your enjoyment, because the swimming pool | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
wasn't open, because excursions that were promised couldn't take place, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:31 | |
because the children's entertainer promised wasn't there. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
Gary thinks it's worth Lynn taking her case to the ABTA arbitration | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
scheme, which was set up to try and resolve cases like this one. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
The application process costs £108, but Gary reckons it's worth it. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:48 | |
It's often much more cost-effective and, indeed, less stressful, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:54 | |
to go to arbitration than to go to court. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:59 | |
So, although the ABTA arbitration scheme does cost, in my view, | 0:34:59 | 0:35:04 | |
that is money very well spent indeed. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
We spoke to both the companies Lynn has been dealing with. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:13 | |
The travel agent, Hays Travel, | 0:35:13 | 0:35:14 | |
said it was sorry her holiday didn't live up to expectations, | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
but that, as it was acting as agent on behalf of the tour operator, | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
it could only relay the information available at the time of booking. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
Meanwhile, Jet2 told us that Lynn should have been told that the | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
splash park was not yet open, | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
and apologised for not letting her know that it was closed. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
But it believes that, as Lynn and her family had unlimited access and | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
free travel to a nearby water park, | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
the trip still constitutes a child-friendly holiday. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
So it's clear that, even if you think a change in your holiday was major | 0:35:47 | 0:35:51 | |
enough to have a significant impact, | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
the company you booked with won't always agree, | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
and proving your case, particularly when it comes to standards of | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
accommodation or facilities, | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
isn't easy when, in most cases, | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
there is no official definition of what makes a change major or minor. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
Things are a little clearer with flights, | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
where what's considered a major change is spelled out more clearly. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
The industry says it's if you end up flying to a different | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
destination, or your flight time is altered by more than 12 hours. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
But for Alison Miller, | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
a change of far less time could still have major implications. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
Alison has type 1 diabetes, | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
and managing her condition means any travel has to be meticulously | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
-planned. -Being able to fly at a certain time, | 0:36:35 | 0:36:40 | |
being able to have the time in the morning to prepare, | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
to be able to get to a resort, to be able to have a meal, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
to be able to have access to food and drink is really important to me. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
So when she and her husband Alan | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
booked a seven-day break to Greece in 2017 to celebrate a friend's 70th | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
birthday, Alison organised it all especially carefully. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
So we chose to fly an afternoon flight, 2pm in the afternoon, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:07 | |
because it gives us the added bonus of landing at a reasonable time in | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
resort. We'd arranged to meet up with the rest of the party, to have | 0:37:11 | 0:37:16 | |
a meal, and it's also better for me, due to my health condition. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:21 | |
Alison booked flights with Thomas Cook through the agent On The Beach, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
but it was only when one of the party tried to book them all into | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
the airport's VIP lounge as a special treat that they found out | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
their flights had been shifted three-and-a-half hours later to 5:30pm. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:38 | |
Obviously, we chose flight times | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
that met our needs for specific reasons. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
I was told by the customer service person at On The Beach that, | 0:37:44 | 0:37:49 | |
as it was a minor change, | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
that there was nothing that we could do about it. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:55 | |
The change in flight time, though significant to Alison, | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
was classed as minor because it was under 12 hours. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
But that wasn't the end of it. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
Alison's return flight was also moved from 9pm at night to 12:45am. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:09 | |
She'd only get back to the UK at 3:10am in the morning, | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
meaning she'd be unlikely to be in a fit state for her job as a social | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
worker, so she'd have to take an extra day off. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
I don't agree that travelling the early hours of the following day is | 0:38:18 | 0:38:23 | |
a minor change. I don't agree that I have to take an extra day's holiday | 0:38:23 | 0:38:28 | |
from work because of a minor change. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
I don't think that that's fair. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
And again, solicitor Gary Rycroft agrees. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
He'd argue that, in light of Alison's medical condition, | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
and the fact that she was only going away for seven days, | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
she would have grounds to claim the changed flight times were a | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
significant alteration to her plans. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
It would be a major change to most people's holiday to have a | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
significant change in the time of your flight. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
However, in Alison's case, | 0:38:57 | 0:38:58 | |
it's even more compelling because she is diabetic, | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
and so, for her particularly, | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
this is a significant and major change to her holiday | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
and, in my view, | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
it is of the magnitude which entitles her to cancel her holiday | 0:39:10 | 0:39:14 | |
and have a full refund. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
Alison and Alan stuck to their guns, and the airline Thomas Cook | 0:39:17 | 0:39:21 | |
did finally agree to move their flights to more convenient times on | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
the following day. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
But that still left Alison having to take an extra day's leave that | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
she hadn't originally planned. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
Well, of course, we contacted the two companies involved. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
The booking agent, On The Beach, told us that it had advised Alison | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
of the changes eight weeks ahead of her departure and, while it | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
understands the frustration, | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
airline changes are outside its control. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
It reiterated that, under the rules of the airline, | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
this was classed as a minor change. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
As for Thomas Cook, | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
it too said it understands how frustrating such changes can be, | 0:39:56 | 0:40:00 | |
but it does try to keep any disruption to a minimum, | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
and to give customers as much notice as possible about any changes. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
In this case, it says it told On The Beach of the revised times | 0:40:07 | 0:40:11 | |
six months before departure. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
But both Alison and Lynn's cases show just how tricky it can be for | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
customers to establish whether they have genuine grounds for complaint | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
following a disappointing holiday. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
So Gary suggests one thing that can help is to put it all down in | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
writing when you book the parts of the trip | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
you'd consider most essential. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
If you're told about things that will happen at the hotel, | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
or things that go on in the resort, | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
if you're told that the resort is very quiet and it isn't when you get | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
there, then it's really helpful for you to have written down those | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
representations that were made to you by the holiday company at the | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
time of your booking. Because although those representations | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
aren't, strictly speaking, part of the contract, | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
if they have induced you to sign the contract, | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
then it's really important that there is a record of what was said | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
to you at the time, because in that case | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
they can be inferred as part of the contract. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
But since neither of the companies in her case have budged, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
Lynn remains bitterly disappointed by a holiday she's adamant wasn't | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
the one she'd booked and paid for. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
I am absolutely devastated, the way I've been treated. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
More so for my grandson, who's not getting memories | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
of what, of a holiday that I wanted him to have. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
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Well, I'm afraid that's just about it from us for today, but, you know, | 0:42:15 | 0:42:19 | |
I have to say I was absolutely shocked at just how some of | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
those hotels really did not know the law when it came to giving access to | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
guide dogs. I really do hope that, after being contacted by us, | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
those who got it wrong will indeed change their policies, | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
and get themselves up to speed with the law. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
Absolutely right. But, you know, it's the airlines overbooking | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
seats on flights that really bothers me, | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
and I totally felt for that poor mum who couldn't get on the plane with | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
her family, even though they'd booked it months in advance. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
Altogether, so disappointing. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
But doing this programme, I often wonder, do big companies sometimes | 0:42:48 | 0:42:52 | |
forget what it's like to be on the receiving end of their own policies? | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
Good question. Well, to put it mildly, | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
there seems to be an awful lot of confusion out there - | 0:42:58 | 0:43:00 | |
not just among customers but, rather more worryingly, from some of the | 0:43:00 | 0:43:04 | |
businesses responsible for taking care of your trip. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
So we really hope that today we've been able to clarify a few things, | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
so that your next holiday is the enjoyable time it's supposed to be. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:14 | |
We'll see you again very soon | 0:43:14 | 0:43:16 | |
-but, for now, from all of us, goodbye. -Bye-bye. -Bye-bye. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:19 |