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We asked you who has left you feeling ripped off | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
when it comes to your holidays | 0:00:04 | 0:00:05 | |
and you came back with a catalogue of travel disasters. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
It happens all the time | 0:00:09 | 0:00:10 | |
that somebody else has paid less for the holiday that I paid more for. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
The costs of these things are certainly going up and up. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
I always think that someone is | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
trying to rip me off somewhere along the line. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
Whether it is a deliberate rip-off, | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
a simple mistake or a catch in the small print, | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
we will find out why you are out of pocket and what you can do about it. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
Your stories, your money - this is Rip-Off Britain. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:36 | |
Hello and thank you so much for joining us again | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
here on Rip-off Britain, | 0:00:38 | 0:00:39 | |
where in this series, | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
we're tackling more of the problems that you have experienced on your | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
holidays and today, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
we are going to be hearing how some of those problems can happen way | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
before you have even reached your destination. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
When you are en route or perhaps | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
even when you are already on the plane. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
I can honestly guarantee that several of the situations | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
we have been looking into are ones | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
that a lot of you will very much sympathise with and | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
indeed, that you may even have experienced yourselves. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
And what is particularly frustrating | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
about a number of them is that with a | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
little bit more flexibility and understanding along the way, | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
things could very, very easily have been resolved, | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
without them needing to escalate in the ways that they did. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
But, as we will see, | 0:01:21 | 0:01:22 | |
whether it is down to poor communication | 0:01:22 | 0:01:23 | |
or a misunderstanding of the rules, | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
the experiences some of you have been through have at the very | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
least been deeply upsetting and | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
in one instance, the stakes were much, much higher | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
and could even have been life-threatening. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
Coming up... | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
The onboard snack that could lead to a life-threatening emergency... | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
Obviously, I am not going to risk my child's life, | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
so I had to get off the flight. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
..and the airlines still getting it wrong when allocating families their | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
seats, splitting up parents and children | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
when the rules are clear that they shouldn't. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
It was the most hideous experience, | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
my stomach was churning, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:03 | |
I could just hear her crying at the | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
other end of the plane and it was awful. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
For many of us, getting on a plane | 0:02:11 | 0:02:12 | |
and settling down for the flight is the | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
first part of a memorable holiday to come, but for others, | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
the thought of being trapped inside an aircraft for hours on end is | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
something they would rather avoid and for these holiday-makers, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
it is not a fear of flying that makes the journey so traumatic - | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
instead, it is the fear of the snacks | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
that you or I might be eating and as you'll see, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
they have a very good reason to be worried and you might be | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
extremely surprised by the way some airlines react when they are made | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
aware of the danger. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:40 | |
It started as a marketing move in the 1970s when one of the | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
world's first budget carriers, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
Southwest Airlines in the United States, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
abandoned the full meal served on | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
most flights of the day | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
in favour of free bags of nuts. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
Playing on their policy of no-frills, cheap fares, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
they branded themselves the peanut airline, as in "you fly for peanuts, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:06 | |
"so you get them to eat as well." | 0:03:06 | 0:03:07 | |
It wasn't long before on airlines all around the world, | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
whether in first class or economy, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
a packet of peanuts became as much an expected part of flying as the | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
drinks trolley or duty-free. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
But in more recent times, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:25 | |
not everyone has come to welcome the arrival of this humble snack. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
Two-year-old Jamil suffers from a peanut allergy. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
Being in close proximity to the dust from peanut or Brazil nuts can give | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
him a severe allergic reaction with swelling of the lips and eyes and | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
breathing difficulties. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:44 | |
At one particular time, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
I gave him something that had peanut in it | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
and had peanut butter in it and within... | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
He didn't even ingest it, as soon as I put it in his mouth, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
he just spat it out and then within seconds, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
his lips were swollen and his eye was swollen as well. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
So when his mum, Akeela, takes him on holiday, | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
the question of whether there will be nuts on board | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
couldn't be more serious. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:10 | |
Before every flight, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
she has to let the cabin crew know about her son's allergy in the hope | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
that they will make an announcement advising other passengers that nuts | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
won't be served this time and explaining why. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
Which is exactly what happened on | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
her latest family holiday to Majorca. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
On the way out, it was fine, there was no hassle. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
I told them that Jamil had a nut allergy. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
They said that they weren't going to serve nuts on the plane | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
and they made an announcement | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
asking passengers not to consume nuts on the flight. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
But at the end of the holiday, | 0:04:39 | 0:04:40 | |
the family was flying back with a different airline, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
called Eurowings, and it didn't respond | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
quite so positively to Akeela's request. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
When I boarded the flight, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:50 | |
I told the aircrew that Jamil suffers from a nut allergy | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
and what they basically said is that | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
they are going to be serving nuts on the plane and | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
that they are not able to make an announcement, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
asking passengers not to consume nuts | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
and that I would be flying at my own risk, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
basically, if I choose to fly with them. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
Akeela had to decide whether to fly home as planned with the chance that | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
Jamil could become seriously ill in mid-air | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
or get off the plane. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:21 | |
I was trying to explain to them, you know, it is only a two-hour flight. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
I am sure there are loads of other snacks that people can eat, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
other than nuts. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:28 | |
I am sure that if you just made the announcement, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
that they would understand. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
That the people would understand. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:34 | |
But they still refused to do it. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
And they said that they can't inconvenience everyone | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
just because of one passenger. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
Well, given the potential fatal reaction that | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
Jamil could have if he came into contact with nuts | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
and the cabin crew's refusal to stop serving them, | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
Akeela felt she had no choice but | 0:05:52 | 0:05:53 | |
to take Jamil and her daughter off the plane, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
get their luggage and find an alternative flight home. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
Obviously, I am not going to risk my child's life, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
so I had to get off the flight. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
So I had to call my daughter who was already sitting down. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
She was in tears, asking how we were going to get home. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
Akeela says that at the time, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
Eurowings staff told her that they | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
could offer her a flight the next day, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
but could not guarantee that this would be nut-free either. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
Akeela said she was told that | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
if she wished to fly home using a different airline, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
she would be reimbursed. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:28 | |
So back at the terminal, Akeela paid £645 to fly with another company, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:33 | |
which confirmed that it would stop | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
the hand-out or sale of nuts during the flight, but nine months on, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
and despite following up her case with Eurowings, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
the airline has said it won't be giving her any money back for the | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
alternative flight she had to take. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
So, I have e-mailed Eurowings numerous times | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
and they e-mailed me back twice, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
basically just saying that they can't reimburse me the money. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
They said that they can't ask passengers | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
not to eat nuts on the flight, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
but it is at the aircrew's discretion, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
which I don't really understand that. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
Now, when we got in touch with Eurowings, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
it told us that while they are sorry | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
that Akeela did not feel treated the right way, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
it was unable to offer any payment. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
It went on to say that a complete exclusion of the sale of any goods | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
containing nuts is not possible. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
And that despite regular and in-depth cleaning, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
the aircraft's shape, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:27 | |
air conditioning and ventilation | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
mean that it cannot completely remove nut traces | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
from previous flights. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
As a result, guests with a chance of | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
an allergic reaction travel at their own risk. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:41 | |
Now, Professor Clare Mills from Manchester University | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
is one of the world's leading experts in food allergies | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
and knows how devastating even minute traces of nut residue | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
can be for allergy sufferers. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:52 | |
So, the reason why eating peanuts on an aeroplane is different is because | 0:07:52 | 0:07:59 | |
it is a very cramped environment. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
It is a very confined space, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
you are basically in a metal tube | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
and you are up 30,000 feet in the air | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
and when you open a bag of peanuts on an aeroplane, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
there is dust inside and it is very easy, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
because the bags go pop when you open them, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
for that dust to get on to the food | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
of someone sitting next to you and | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
if they don't know that has happened, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
that is still enough for them to have a real allergic reaction. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
Professor Mills' fears about | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
the dangers are echoed by the parents of Faye Platton | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
and Amelia Nicholas, who, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
as was reported in the press in August, 2014, | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
suffered severe allergic reactions | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
after being exposed to other people eating nuts on board flights. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:46 | |
We do need to take it seriously. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
We have fatalities, | 0:08:48 | 0:08:49 | |
from people having accidentally | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
eaten peanut or tree nuts or you have | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
someone who has had a very severe reaction and obviously, in a plane, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:59 | |
when you are up in the air, | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
having somebody who has what we would call an | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
anaphylactic reaction is a very serious consideration | 0:09:03 | 0:09:08 | |
and unless they get prompt treatment with adrenaline, they could die. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:13 | |
But part of the difficulty here is | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
that individual airlines can have very different policies | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
around serving nuts and indeed, | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
about what to do if there is someone with an allergy on board. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
We contacted the top five UK-based airlines to ask them | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
to clarify their approach. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
All of them, BA, easyJet, Virgin, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
Thomas Cook and Flybe | 0:09:36 | 0:09:37 | |
confirmed that if someone on board has a nut allergy, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
they will make an announcement requesting that other passengers | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
do not consume them on the flight. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
But BA and Virgin also told us that they don't sell nuts on their planes | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
or knowingly use them in their food, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
although they can't guarantee | 0:09:53 | 0:09:54 | |
that they have been made in a nut-free environment. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
Thomas Cook does serve nuts, | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
but said it won't do so if made | 0:10:00 | 0:10:01 | |
aware that a passenger has an allergy. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
It also told us that staff receive annual training | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
in treating anaphylaxis. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
easyJet told us that it asks passengers to make any allergies | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
clear at the time of booking so that the crew are aware and again can | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
restrict the sale of nuts on board. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
And finally Flybe said that while it too serves nuts and there is a | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
possibility that some other products sold contain them as well, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
all packaging contains adequate warnings | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
and details of what all menu items are available online. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
But of course whatever they do, | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
none of these airlines can promise a completely nut-free flight, | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
so several did stress they would | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
recommend that passengers bring their own medication on board. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
And that is something that Anna is | 0:10:47 | 0:10:48 | |
used to doing when travelling with her six-year-old daughter Ellie. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:53 | |
Pass, mate! | 0:10:53 | 0:10:54 | |
Ellie has a number of serious allergies, including one to peanuts. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:59 | |
Ellie's sensitivity to nuts is extremely, extremely sensitive, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
to the extent that she doesn't even have to have | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
eaten or touched the nuts herself. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
Somebody else could have eaten nuts | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
and then gave her a kiss on the cheek | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
and she will come up in hives. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
So when it comes to taking Ellie on holiday, again, | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
boarding a plane is always a major risk. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
If she were to suffer an allergic reaction at any time, as a parent, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
we would be extremely concerned, | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
but travelling on an aeroplane takes the anxiety levels to more than you | 0:11:28 | 0:11:33 | |
can imagine, because God forbid, if something were to happen, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
we would not be sure that we would | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
have the medical attention that we need. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
From the moment she arrives at the airport, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
every precaution is needed to avoid any potential contact with peanuts. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:49 | |
Once we get to the departure gate, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
we will not only remind them that Ellie has a severe nut allergy, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
but will request to board slightly earlier than other passengers, | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
so that we can wipe down her seat, particularly the tray table, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:05 | |
the buckle, the TV screen, the remote, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
anything that she could touch or come into contact with, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
we wipe down with baby wipes to try to eliminate all traces of any nuts. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
Without clear and consistent rules | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
around the presence of nuts on the plane, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
Professor Clare Mills believes that it is crucial that cabin crew | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
are properly trained to administer vital life-saving first aid, | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
should it be needed. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
What I would like to see is whether the cabin crew | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
are also trained to treat food allergies, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
including administer adrenaline. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
I think it would make it safer for people with food allergies to fly. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
But the parents we spoke to would | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
prefer airlines to go one step further | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
and go for an outright ban on peanuts on board flights. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
I am just concerned about Jamil | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
potentially having a severe reaction mid-air, you know, on a flight | 0:12:56 | 0:13:02 | |
and it should just be a blanket policy. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
We appreciate that it is difficult to monitor | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
and we don't want to get in | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
the way of people enjoying themselves, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
but for the sake of hundreds and thousands of people, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
we would love for nuts to be banned on flights. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
Something we have touched on before is the thorny question of whether or | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
not you should pay to guarantee seats together on a plane. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
It is something the airlines increasingly expect us to do, | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
even people travelling with children and that is pretty controversial, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
because whenever you think about having to pay for specific seating, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
there are guidelines that say that | 0:13:43 | 0:13:44 | |
parents and children should be seated close together, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
which you might think would be an end to it, but no. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
Those guidelines appear to be interpreted differently | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
by the various parties involved, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
from the experts through to individual airlines and | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
that has led to some incredibly stressful situations | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
for several of you who | 0:14:01 | 0:14:02 | |
contacted us about this and indeed | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
about the rest of the passengers on their flights. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
So we thought it was about time there was a definitive answer | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
on this subject, once and for all. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
We went right to the top, to get one. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
Children separated from their parents, | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
distressed mums and dads and other passengers upset as well. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
Not the start to a holiday anyone would choose, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
but judging by all the letters and e-mails we have had on the subject, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
it is becoming increasingly common as families who have not paid | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
to guarantee sitting together on holiday flights are split up. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
Nadine Strong from Barry in Wales | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
faced such a predicament after booking a holiday | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
with Thomson, now known as TUI. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
Along with her husband Nathan, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
plus eight-year-old George and five-year-old Olivia, | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
Nadine was looking forward to a seven-day break to Rhodes. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
To save time at the airport, she checked in online. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
It's mine! | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
When check-in online opened a week before we were due to fly out to | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
Rhodes, we went on, checked in. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
Going out, we were sat two and two, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
so we had one child with each parent. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
Obviously, they would have preferred to be altogether, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
but being allocated pairs of seats | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
for the outward journey could have been worse | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
and indeed, that was the case when it came to the flight home. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
For that journey, the four of them had been scattered around the plane, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
each of them on their own, in a different row, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
not ideal for an eight and a five-year-old. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
They are very young. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
They have to be sat with us, so that we can take care of them, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
take care of their needs. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
And I don't want them sat close to... | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
..by any strangers without me being there. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
Nadine called customer services, who told her that the only way she could | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
be sure of sitting with her children was to pay more, £100 more. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:57 | |
It was just simply this is what you have to do, | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
you have to pay £100 and then you | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
will guarantee that your children will be sat close to you. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
So, as a parent, you have got no alternative, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
you have to pay that additional money. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
But travel expert Simon Calder does not agree. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
He says the rules on where children should be seated | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
are really quite simple. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
There is no need for anybody to be confused about what their | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
rights are and what they can expect if they are travelling with children | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
under 12 - you can expect that you're going to be sat with them. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
Civil Aviation Authority guidelines are clear. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
The child must be close to a parent. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
Ideally in the same row or no more than one row apart, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
that is not going to cost you a penny. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
It is something that the airlines do for safety reasons. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
So, there is no need to feel ripped off, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
because there is no need to pay anything. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
As we have reported before, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:54 | |
those CAA guidelines state that if children and their parents are | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
separated by more than a row, | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
then a flight must not take off, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
which should mean that once you are on the plane, | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
seats could be swapped around to put things right. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
But Nadine says no-one suggested that to her. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
Instead, she was left with the impression | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
there was only one way she would be sitting with George and Olivia. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
We were never told that the flight crew | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
would sit them or try their best | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
to get them to sit close to you once you were on board. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
We were never told that by customer services, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
we were just simply told that you have to pay the money. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
George and Olivia were not happy | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
about the idea of being separated either. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
You're sitting by a stranger, | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
you don't know them and if you can't see your family, | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
it is going to be sad. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
I would feel really sad to go on a plane without my mum and dad. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:48 | |
So to avoid that, Nadine paid up, | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
but she feels strongly that she shouldn't have had to. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
You pay enough for the holiday, | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
pay enough for the flight only and then you have to pay this additional | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
money on top and I just think it is.. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
..a scam. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:05 | |
And Simon takes the view that anyone in a similar situation should stand | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
their ground and remind the airline | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
of its obligations under the CAA guidelines. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
You need to say to the cabin crew, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
"I am afraid you have got to sort this out, as you know | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
"you legally have to." | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
So therefore, as has happened to me on occasions, | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
you just say, "Would you be kind enough to sort this out?" | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
Which will involve other passengers switching, but in my experience, | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
they are generally happy to. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:33 | |
Unfortunately, however clear the guidelines may be, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
you have been telling us they are not always followed. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
Planes do take off with families entirely split up, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
as Andrea Dodd from Hertfordshire | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
discovered on a recent holiday to Greece, also with Thomson. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:52 | |
When we first booked the holiday, you have to put in, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
obviously your ages of the children that you are flying with. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
It wasn't that we just booked a villa and the flight separately, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
we booked everything as a package. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
So it was very clear that we were | 0:19:06 | 0:19:07 | |
flying with a seven-year-old and a 12-year-old. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
As this was a last-minute booking, | 0:19:13 | 0:19:14 | |
Andrea knew that it was unlikely | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
that all four of them could sit together, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
but she did assume that they would be in pairs and she certainly never | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
expected when she went online to check | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
that they had been allocated seats | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
on four completely different rows. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
All four of us were separated on the flight and especially my | 0:19:28 | 0:19:33 | |
seven-year-old was almost at one end of the plane compared to the rest of | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
us up the other end of the plane. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
Andrea called the company, who gave her a choice, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
either pay the extra to guarantee seats together | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
or speak to the cabin crew on the day to see what could be done. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
And confident that the airline would | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
have to stick to the CAA rules to sit under-12s | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
if not next to their parents, then at least close, | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
she decided to wait to sort it all out on the plane. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
As soon as we got on to the flight, | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
both of them were very nervous, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
so we said that we would look to see where their seats were first, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
see if actually we could see them, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
whether they was in our eye line and how far away we were from them, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
and then we would speak to the staff | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
and make sure that we were either | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
moved or the fact that we could see them. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
But as the aircraft started to fill up, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
the cabin crew told Andrea that the closest seat to her that they could | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
put Lily would be in the row behind | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
and across the aisle in a window seat. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
On the way out there, you know, | 0:20:33 | 0:20:34 | |
there's other people that were sitting next to me | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
that have checked in | 0:20:37 | 0:20:38 | |
after I have and their seats were allocated next to them, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
yet ours weren't. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:43 | |
I was on the end of the next row to Lily, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
so I kept having to look over at her and say, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
"It's fine, I can see you, | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
"you're OK there." | 0:20:50 | 0:20:51 | |
Despite being split up, their spirits were high and the | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
outward journey went without too many problems, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
but the real concern was the return journey, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
a late overnight flight. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
Again, all the family had been allocated separate seats | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
with Lily placed on her own at the back of the plane. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
Andrea's one reassurance was the conversation she'd had with Thomson | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
before she'd departed. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
And she obviously reassured me to | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
say this flight would not take off if you are not in, you know, | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
if you are not in the vicinity of sitting next to your child, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
let alone sitting from one end of the plane to the other. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
And that conversation was firmly in Andrea's in mind when, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
after a great holiday, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:33 | |
it came to the day of departure and their midnight flight home. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:38 | |
Both children were exhausted and Lily was also under the weather, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
all of which added extra pressure | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
to the issue of where they would all be sitting. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
Lily was very tired. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
She also had an ear infection so she was very, very upset. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
She was getting herself more upset | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
in the fact that she was thinking | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
that she was going to have to sit on her own. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
And I'm afraid that's exactly what happened. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
Cabin staff were unable to find two seats together, | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
meaning seven-year-old Lily did have to sit well away from her parents. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:10 | |
It was the most hideous experience. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
It's a night-time flight. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:14 | |
We were worried about Lily as it was | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
in the first place because she had an ear infection. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
My stomach was churning. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
I could just hear her crying at the | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
other end of the plane and it was awful. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
Andrea says that the cabin crew made little attempt to move other | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
passengers so that she could sit next to Lily, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
meaning that the situation affected not just her and Lily | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
but other passengers sitting nearby. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
A night-time flight, everyone obviously wants to, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
you know, go to sleep, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:41 | |
but we had at least an hour's worth of Lily crying. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:46 | |
She was in pain. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:47 | |
She was tired. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
She even, after take-off, we had turbulence, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
so she couldn't even get out of her seat. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
Or my husband couldn't get out of his seat, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
because he was closer to her than I was, to actually reassure her. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
After take-off, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:03 | |
Andrea says passengers were more | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
than happy to move so that she and Lily could sit together, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
but she is angry that, as she sees it, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
she got little help from the cabin crew and was left to sort out a | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
potential flight safety issue herself. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
In these sort of situations, if something had, God forbid, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
occurred and there had been emergency procedures, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
you can't guarantee that a stranger | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
is going to make sure that your child | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
in that hustle and bustle, in that emergency, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
has got their oxygen mask on or has got their life jacket on. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
And for seven-year-old Lily, | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
the experience wasn't one she'd like to repeat either. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
They said the plane wouldn't leave | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
until a parent is sitting next to a child. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
And our tickets said we weren't sitting next to each other. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:55 | |
My mum was sitting at the back and I was sitting at the front. | 0:23:55 | 0:24:00 | |
Well, Simon Calder says this case was completely unacceptable. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
In Andrea's case, | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
to have a seven-year-old child | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
sitting a long way from the parents is frankly scandalous. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:14 | |
That is a serious flight safety issue | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
and it needs to be reported to the Civil Aviation Authority, | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
so that the airline gets a proper ticking off. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
So we did just that and the CAA couldn't have been clearer, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
reiterating that under European guidelines, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
airlines should ensure that children are sitting... | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
..and that the cabin crew should | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
facilitate this during the boarding process. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
But is that message getting through to the airlines? | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
Well, reassuringly, Thomson, now known as TUI, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
told us it's sorry that Nadine and Andrea | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
were given incorrect information | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
by its staff and that while such cases are rare, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
it will be providing... | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
..on the seating of families together. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
It went on to say that it does, like other airlines, offer a pre-booking | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
service where customers can request specific seats, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
but if customers choose not to use this service | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
and a child is initially | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
allocated a seat away from its parents, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
then the seat will be reassigned. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
The airline added that it will be getting in touch | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
with both Nadine and Andrea to offer a resolution. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
But with some of you telling us | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
similar stories about other airlines, too, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
it seems that for whatever reason, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
the CAA's requirements are not always being followed, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
so Simon has some no-nonsense advice for anyone who is | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
told they will need to pay to be sure they sit next to their child. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
That's not the case legally. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
It is simply an empty threat which I strongly suggest everybody ignores. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:52 | |
He makes it sound so easy, but for Andrea, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
the frustration remains that she knew what she was entitled to, | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
and was even told by the airline it would be sorted out on the plane, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
and yet the family was still split up. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
I don't think they followed the CAA guidelines. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
I think if they do feel that it's OK | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
to have a seven-year-old sat at least | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
a few rows away from her parents, then it's absolutely disgraceful. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:21 | |
Still to come on Rip-Off Britain - | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
car owners hit with unwelcome bills or a | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
very direct message left on their vehicle, | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
both of them problems caused by the same thing, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
the sky-high cost of airport parking. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
You think, how can it possibly be that they could charge such an | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
astronomical amount for parking? | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
Yes, it was secure, yes, it was near the airport, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
but surely it should be a more reasonable amount. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
Our travel expert Simon Calder is | 0:26:59 | 0:27:00 | |
full of tips to save you money on your travels. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
He's got advice on everything, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
from how to avoid the crowds to the | 0:27:05 | 0:27:06 | |
best way to steer clear of those tourist traps. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
This time it's all about holding on to your pennies in the notoriously | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
expensive city of Venice. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
The so-called floating city is | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
actually made up of over 100 small islands | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
connected by bridges, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
and as well as the canals, it boasts some of the most notorious and | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
costliest tourist spots in the world. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
Ah. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
Sip an exquisite espresso as you absorb the ambience in one | 0:27:30 | 0:27:34 | |
of St Mark's Square's signature cafes. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
All yours for... | 0:27:37 | 0:27:38 | |
..rather more than £10. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
The most expensive coffee I've found anywhere. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
But if paying eye-watering prices simply isn't your cup of cappuccino, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:53 | |
then you can still take in all the sites by heading to the | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
Lido di Jesolo, | 0:27:56 | 0:27:57 | |
a purpose-built beach resort just north of Venice. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
There's accommodation ranging from | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
campsites to four-star all-inclusives, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
with 15km of beach thrown in. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
Then hop on a boat back to Venice to | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
see the sights, including, of course, the gondolas. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
Now, if you are tempted to hire one, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
it could cost you £100 for half an hour. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
Luckily, there is a low-budget alternative. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
Old gondolas are pressed into service as traghetti | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
shuttling back and forth | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
across the Grand Canal, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
and a ride on one is all yours for a couple of euros. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
Amongst the many fine things that Italy has offered to the world, | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
opera comes pretty near top of the list. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
A night at the opera, La Fenice, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
is an unforgettable experience, | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
and perhaps surprisingly it can be | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
one of the less expensive Italian thrills. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:59 | |
Now, you could splash out 200 or 300 euros on a seat in a private box. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:07 | |
But at the other end of the scale, | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
there's the wonderful Italian concept of the listening seat, | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
which basically means you get a terrible view | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
but it only costs about 15 euros | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
and you get to appreciate the | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
magnificent music and the excitement. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
Bellissimo. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
Now for a situation that usually | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
guarantees that the most even-tempered of us | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
will eventually get into a spin, and that is car parking, | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
cos let's face it, it's bad enough | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
trying to find a car parking space in an overcrowded supermarket, | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
but if you add that to the stress | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
and the costs that come with trying to find somewhere | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
to safely park your car when you jet off on holiday, | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
then you can see you've got a situation | 0:29:55 | 0:29:56 | |
that's absolutely ripe for frayed tempers. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
And unfortunately that's exactly what happened last summer when a | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
group of people discovered what they | 0:30:03 | 0:30:04 | |
thought was a very cost-effective and practical solution | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
to the whole car parking situation, but sadly, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
whilst the people parking their cars were very happy indeed, | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
those that were left behind were rather less than chuffed. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
Holidays abroad bring the promise of longer evenings, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
warmer days and plenty of sunshine, | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
but the expense doesn't just start when you arrive at your destination. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:31 | |
For millions of us, there is the extra cost and hassle of finding | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
somewhere to leave your car before you've even taken off, which, | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
as we've reported before, doesn't always go entirely to plan. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
These vehicles left on kerbs, | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
in fields, | 0:30:47 | 0:30:48 | |
and in pub car parks | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
had been entrusted by their owners to one | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
of the many meet-and-greet companies that have sprung up, | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
promising to safely store your car while you're away. | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
But clearly they weren't kept in the secure environment | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
that had been promised. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
You'd think they'd park them in a secure car park, | 0:31:06 | 0:31:10 | |
but when they hand the cars over to the drivers, | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
they're often just parked in locations | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
such as this on your right. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
Or if it's returned dented and damaged. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
All the paintwork above the wheel was all scratched. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
The rear fog lamp was all broke. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
I've had to pay for the damage myself. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
Of course, not all meet-and-greet companies | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
leave customers in this kind of pickle, | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
and using one of them when you go away can save a lot of money. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
Which is why, in November 2016, | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
June and Mike Jackson from Melton Mowbray | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
decided that one such company | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
would be their parking solution when | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
they headed to Heathrow Airport | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
ready to fly off on a very special six-week cruise to Sydney and Japan. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:51 | |
The trip was to celebrate our golden wedding anniversary. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
It only comes by once, so we wanted to make it special. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
And we were so excited about it and | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
all the planning that we put into it before we went. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
After you, dear. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
The cheapest quote they found at an official airport car park came in at | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
around £250 for the six-week stay. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
But with a meet-and-greet company | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
offering to collect and return their car at the airport | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
for a total of £136.70, for June and Mike, | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
it seemed a no-brainer. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
Having used a similar company before, | 0:32:22 | 0:32:24 | |
we felt it would be straightforward. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
It would be convenient. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
We could just leave the car, straight into the airport. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
What could be better? | 0:32:32 | 0:32:33 | |
But on the morning of the flight, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
the couple received a text message | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
from the company with some distressing news. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
Saying, we are unable to park your car this morning. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
We'll reimburse the fees and you'll have to seek other forms of parking. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:50 | |
Alternative parking. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
With less than three and a half hours to departure, | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
June and make were now in a | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
desperate rush to find another way to park at Heathrow. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
I'm thinking, "The time's going past, the time's going past." | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
You know, we were looking, just checking. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:02 | |
"We've got to get rid of this car." | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
So we just saw... | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
..a light on, on a car park in a little cabin, so we just said, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:12 | |
"Let's just go for it. Let's see if they can help us out." | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
The couple had found an official Heathrow Airport car park where an | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
attendant warned them that, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:21 | |
because they hadn't pre-booked a space, | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
they'd face a very large bill on their return, | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
but with time running out to make their flight, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
June and Mike felt they had little choice. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
We had to go for it. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:32 | |
We decided it was either a case of parking there | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
or we were going to miss the flight and miss the cruise altogether. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
So the Jacksons parked their car and caught their flight, | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
but throughout the holiday | 0:33:41 | 0:33:42 | |
they couldn't shake off the worry about the big parking bill to come. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
We kept thinking about it, kept going through your mind and... | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
-Yes. -Thinking, we knew that we'd got | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
this big bill to face when we got back. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
And when they got back, their worst fears were realised, | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
when they were hit with a £891.30 bill | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
for their six weeks' worth of parking. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
That's almost another holiday, isn't it? | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
-It is, really. -You think, | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
how can it possibly be that you can be away for six weeks and they can | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
charge such an astronomical amount for parking? | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
Yes, it was secure. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
Yes, it was near the airport, | 0:34:15 | 0:34:16 | |
but surely it should be a more reasonable amount. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
Well, of course, Mike and June paid top whack because, | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
being let down by the meet-and-greet firm so late in the day, | 0:34:23 | 0:34:27 | |
they hadn't had a chance to pre-book anything cheaper. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
And when we contacted Heathrow Airport, | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
it stressed that pricing is based on demand | 0:34:33 | 0:34:34 | |
and last-minute parking will always cost more as available space | 0:34:34 | 0:34:39 | |
may be limited. It went on to say | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
that pre-booking can save you money as little as 24 hours in advance, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:46 | |
and as well as pointing out that you can | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
also get to the airport by public transport, | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
it recommends that, whatever parking service you use, it's one | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
that's British Parking accredited. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:55 | |
But June and might remain aggrieved | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
at their whole airport parking experience | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
and say it took the shine off the whole trip. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
I think we'll remember the golden wedding for... | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
-Yeah, for the car... -For the parking rather than the holiday. -Yeah. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
Our travel expert Simon Calder | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
understands why airports charge a premium to park, | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
but he agrees with June and Mike | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
that the costs have now got out of hand. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
Over the last 20 years, the cost of flying has fallen amazingly, | 0:35:18 | 0:35:24 | |
and partly it's done that because | 0:35:24 | 0:35:26 | |
the airports are charging less than they used to, | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
but of course they have to make the money back somehow and | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
airport parking, they think, is a great way to do it. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
I've done research which shows that | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
at most of Britain's top ten airports | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
it's actually cheaper to park a small plane | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
than it is to park a car in the short-term car park. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
In fact, the cost of parking your car | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
for seven days at a UK airport can vary wildly. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
Exeter is generally reckoned to be the cheapest, | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
with Luton the most expensive. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
But in most cases you can easily find that your parking | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
costs more than the price of a | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
return flight to Europe on a budget airline. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
For example, at Manchester Airport, | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
the on-the-day cost of a week in the multi-storey car park is £280, | 0:36:07 | 0:36:13 | |
which, when we checked, would more than cover | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
a return flight to Prague. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
At London City Airport, | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
the drive-up prices for seven days | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
in the official long-stay car park can | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
be as much as £357, | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
enough to fly a family of three to Dublin and back. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
And at Luton Airport, | 0:36:29 | 0:36:30 | |
turn up on the day to park your car for a week | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
and you'd end up having to pay up to £385, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
enough for a return flight to Morocco. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
Now, of course, those prices drop dramatically | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
if you book in advance. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:44 | |
A pre-booked space at Manchester Airport works out as £79.99, | 0:36:44 | 0:36:50 | |
a saving of £200.01. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
Similarly, pre-book at London City | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
and the price plummets to around £88 for the week, a saving of £269. | 0:36:55 | 0:37:00 | |
And you may find that parking away | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
from the terminals offers better value and more flexibility. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
At Manchester, it's £10 per day to park in the open long-stay car park, | 0:37:09 | 0:37:14 | |
with a free shuttle bus to the terminal, | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
even if you turn up and pay on the day. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
But with parking likely to | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
significantly bump up the cost of your holiday, | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
whichever airport you fly from, | 0:37:23 | 0:37:25 | |
some passengers have tried to avoid | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
any charge whatsoever by leaving | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
their cars on residential streets nearby. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
But that doesn't always go down well with the locals, | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
many of whom very much resent | 0:37:36 | 0:37:37 | |
their neighbourhoods becoming unofficial car parks | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
for several weeks of the year, and in the summer of 2017, | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
some of those simmering tensions | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
came to a head with residents finding ways | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
to take matters into their own hands. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
This car's been here for just under two weeks | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
and I would expect the owner to come back soon... | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
..after, I assume, being on holiday. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
Tony Raines is from Greater Manchester, | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
around a six-minute taxi ride from nearby Manchester Airport, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
and while that's come in handy for him over the years, | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
it's also meant his neighbourhood | 0:38:12 | 0:38:13 | |
has become a hotspot for people trying | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
to dodge paying to park at the airport. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
Tony believes that the cars left here, sometimes by tourists, | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
other times by meet-and-greet companies, | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
are both an eyesore and a safety hazard, | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
and he's found a way to let the owners know exactly what he thinks. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:30 | |
I'm putting it on the driver's side | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
so the driver realises he's got to | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
move it before he moves the car. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
Take one of these which says, | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
"This is not a car park. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
"You are creating a dangerous obstruction. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
"Please back much further away so we can see to get out safely." | 0:38:46 | 0:38:51 | |
Well, I think there will be four cars | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
that I'll be putting stickers on today. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
This is definitely not a resident's car | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
because the residents know the situation and | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
most of the residents have got | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
enough car parking space of their own. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
There is another car up here that needs a sticker. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
Tony would like the local council to introduce restrictions like permits | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
or even double yellow lines to tackle the problem. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
And while the council agrees that would have benefits for safety, | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
congestion and the surrounding community, | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
any measures like this wouldn't be actioned until 2019. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
But this is a problem affecting | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
plenty of other neighbourhoods | 0:39:37 | 0:39:38 | |
within a few miles of UK airports. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
In Southend, for example, | 0:39:41 | 0:39:42 | |
as the local airport has grown in popularity, | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
so too has the number of people | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
using nearby streets to park for free. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
And in Luton, some residents have taken extreme action against those | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
hoping to evade the airport's particularly high charges. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
Far from returning to see one of Tony's simple and harmless stickers, | 0:39:57 | 0:40:01 | |
some car owners who left their cars here have come back to find their | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
vehicles either damaged or covered | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
in graffiti, with a very clear message. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
But with the price of airport parking so high, | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
you can understand why people may be tempted to find cheaper solutions, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:17 | |
and while the airports maintain that | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
the revenue from parking helps offset | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
other costs, and therefore keeps fares down, | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
Simon Calder believes that anyone considering driving to the airport | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
should, if they can, ditch the idea altogether. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
Make driving to the airport and parking your last alternative. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
Consider all the other possibilities first, in particular, | 0:40:36 | 0:40:40 | |
the increasingly good public transport to airports, | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
but, of course, you may simply find a taxi works out cheaper. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
But June and Mike, who live too far from Heathrow for either | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
public transport or a taxi to always be the best option, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
don't see why choosing to take a car to the airport should result in such | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
hefty charges. So next time they won't be leaving anything to chance. | 0:40:56 | 0:41:02 | |
All I would say is just check and double-check, | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
and just make sure that you've done all your homework, really, | 0:41:05 | 0:41:09 | |
before you commit yourselves. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
Don't go through the experience that we've gone through, | 0:41:11 | 0:41:15 | |
-because it really... -It ruins your holiday. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
It ruins your holiday and it's not nice. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
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Well, I'm afraid we're almost out of time for today's programme, | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
but I have to confess and being absolutely astonished at the very | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
different ways in which airlines | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
approach the whole issue of serving nuts on their planes | 0:42:12 | 0:42:16 | |
when they've got a passenger who has an allergy to them on board. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
When you think of the consequences that can be so deadly, | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
you would think, wouldn't you, | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
that the industry might have a more consistent approach? | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
Yes, I would say that it's elementary that they do, actually, | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
but you know what struck me about some of the other stories that we've | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
heard about today is that the issues may well have been avoided if those | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
with the authority to do so had | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
simply asked nicely for someone to maybe | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
swap their seats or indeed to park their cars elsewhere. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:45 | |
But sometimes, I'm afraid, we are just too polite, | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
or should I say just too British? | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
-What do you think? -Well, interestingly, | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
a lot of people come up to me and say, | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
"Your programme has made me a lot braver | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
"about complaining when things aren't right." | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
And I think that's a very good thing. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
Well, I certainly hope you're not | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
too polite to let us know if something | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
on your holiday doesn't go to plan. Do please tell us about it. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
It's by sharing your experiences | 0:43:08 | 0:43:09 | |
that we can make sure that other people | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 | |
don't get caught out in the same way. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
We'll be back with more of your stories very soon, but for now, | 0:43:14 | 0:43:16 | |
from all of us, goodbye. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 | |
-Goodbye. -Bye. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:19 |