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We asked you to tell us who's left you feeling ripped off.

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I think this is very, very, very wrong for what they have done.

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The bank piles charges upon charges upon charges.

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Legally, it was right.

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Morally, that's where the question of doubt comes in my view.

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And you contacted us in your thousands, by post, email,

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even stopping us in the street.

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And the message could not be clearer.

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You don't get a straight answer, they're trying to fob you off.

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I'm not happy at all.

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There's always that small print that's got the clause in that you didn't realise.

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We're being ripped off, big time.

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Whether it's a deliberate rip off, a simple mistake,

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or a catch in the small print, we'll find out why you're out of pocket

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AND what you can do about it.

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Keep asking the questions, you know, go to the top if you have to.

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We get results, that's the interesting thing.

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Your stories, your money, this is Rip-Off Britain.

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Hello and welcome to Rip-Off Britain, the series that fights to sort out your complaints

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and makes sure no one takes advantage of you or your money.

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Too right! Today we tackle a subject that affects every one of us,

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and can leave you feeling confused or ripped-off - energy bills!

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-The dreaded energy bills.

-Exactly.

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It's on everybody's minds during the winter with these higher prices.

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We'll be looking at some of the mistakes energy companies make

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when it comes to your bills

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and exposing the hidden hikes you may not have spotted.

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Coming up: Why the cost of a boiler break down

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has left hundreds hot under the collar.

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We are not happy about it, because we're paying £199 for it.

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Plus, paying the price of the energy companies' mistakes.

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Backdated bills for tens of thousands of pounds.

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The additional amount being asked for was a very alarming £38,000.

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And we lay on some expert advice at our one-stop pop-up shop.

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The huge rise in our energy bills couldn't have come at a worse time.

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It's estimated that up to a quarter of households in the UK are living in so-called fuel poverty

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when more than 10% of your total income goes on keeping warm.

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But what if the increases are only the tip of the iceberg?

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Trevor Watson worked out that the price rises in his bill were far higher than he'd read about.

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In fact, up to 40% higher.

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So we decided to investigate.

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This winter, for millions of people,

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the cost of keeping warm is more worrying than ever.

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Which is why we've heard from so many people concerned about their bills.

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Among them, Trevor Watson.

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When I did the maths on mine, the huge increases,

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I thought, "This cannot be true. It's totally unacceptable."

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I was so angry. I could not believe it.

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Trevor gets his energy from Scottish Power,

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after switching in December 2010.

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When he's not volunteering at a local National Trust orchard,

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this retired project manager knows how to root out a good deal.

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I came across Scottish Power's online energy saver 2011.

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And that suited me.

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So I switched to that in December, 2010.

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And everything was fine until I saw these horrendous price rises being proposed.

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In June 2011, Scottish Power advertised an average price increase

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of 10% on electricity and 19% on gas.

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For the average dual fuel customer,

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that works out at £174 increase on the yearly bill,

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but thanks to the particular tariff that he was on, Trevor faced an even bigger price hike.

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I investigated my own tariff

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and I was absolutely horrified when I worked out

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that the increase they were proposing for my electricity

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was up to 25%, and for gas was a whopping 61%.

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61%?! I just couldn't believe it.

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When I worked out the cost for myself

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on my own annual consumption,

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it worked out as a whopping 40% increase or about £420.

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That is just totally unsustainable.

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Trevor contacted the company to point out the discrepancy

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between the advertised price rises

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and what his own increase would be. They responded stating

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the reason for the larger than average increase

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was due to him being on one of their most competitive tariffs.

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And that made me even more angry,

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because they gave two reasons for my horrendous increase in prices.

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The first was that I was on one of their most competitive tariffs.

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That's a fact, not a reason to take away the competitive element.

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And the second one was that there was a price rise in November, 2010,

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which I missed! Totally irrelevant,

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because I didn't even join Scottish Power until December.

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'It makes me angry because I feel impotent'

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that I'm just a single person trying to battle against

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these big giants who make billions of pounds of profit.

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Scottish Power told us their prices have risen because their own costs

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have increased significantly.

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The figures they announced were averages across Britain

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for all products and payment methods,

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but every customer then got an individual letter

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allowing them to cancel without any penalty.

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They say Trevor's tariff was a limited online offer,

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and even though prices had to increase,

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it will still track 2% below standard direct debit prices.

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Energy price comparison experts say rather than settling for higher bills, consumers should think

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about switching supplier as there's still big money to be saved.

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The energy companies have made it incredibly complicated

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to understand what tariff you're on and how much energy you use,

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and it's putting a lot of people off wanting to get involved.

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Don't give up. If you do, they will win

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and you will forego that 15% or 20% you'd cut off your bill.

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The good news is it's getting easier, the regulator's making them simplify their tariff structures.

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But is the British public getting the energy switching message?

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-Do you ever shop around for different tariffs?

-Oh, yes.

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I do. I do all the time.

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-But are you aware of how many tariffs there are within each company?

-No, I'm not.

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But I'd sooner stick to what I do.

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-So you might be able to save a bit of money?

-Perhaps so,

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but I haven't got a computer or anything,

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so I just carry on the way I am.

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I've tried to get my tariff fixed,

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so I did a bit of online research just to get a feel for the prices

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before I committed to anything.

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How long did you get it fixed for?

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-A year.

-So you were ahead of the game.

-Every penny counts!

-Sure does.

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Trevor's now swapped his tariff for a fixed one.

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To me, there just seems to be something rotten in the energy industry and their prices.

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If nothing changes,

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there's nothing to stop them doing this over and over again.

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But he doesn't think any individual energy company is a bad apple.

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He'd like to see all their prices overhauled, root and branch.

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Well, we can't all work out our bills as well as Trevor,

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so if you'd like a bit of help, you can find advice on our website:

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When you've got a problem, it can be hard to know where to turn.

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So to help, for one weekend in September,

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we opened a pop-up shop in Manchester,

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offering free consumer advice from a range of experts.

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Scott Byrom from Moneysupermarket

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was kept busy dealing with worries about energy bills -

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how to work them out, and how to pay for them.

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Janet had been paying her energy bills by direct debit,

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which she thought would be more straightforward,

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but that wasn't how it turned out.

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In January 2010, I was surprised when I got a bill for £400,

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saying that I was in arrears of £400

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and that they were going to take it out the following month.

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I thought, "Fair enough if I've not been paying enough."

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I did pay that off.

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They increased my direct debit payments,

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then in the summer they wrote to me saying I was now in credit.

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'Now Janet was in credit,

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'the utility company cut her direct debit to £48 a month.'

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So consequently again, after this winter, I received a huge bill,

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because we had such a harsh winter, of £700 in arrears

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which they just want to take out the following month.

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This kind of thing shouldn't happen? They are at fault for handling her like that?

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Also, the idea of a monthly direct debit is it's balanced throughout the year.

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I don't understand why they've changed your direct debit

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from £120 down to £48.

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That's a huge dip.

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The first thing I'd advise you do is make sure the meter is correct.

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Take a meter reading, leave it for a week and read what it is again.

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That should then identify whether your meter is running correctly

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and indicates whether this debt that you're now in is yours to pay.

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The general advice is to be more proactive about your energy bill,

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so if you're on top of it, you're taking your own meter readings,

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you should be aware of how much you're paying,

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and hopefully, you'll avoid finding yourself £600 in debt.

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Janet, good advice there, I think,

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and with a bit of luck, it shouldn't happen again.

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Let's hope not. Thanks for coming in.

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-Thank you very much.

-Cheers. Bye.

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Other consumers used our specially constructed gripe box

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to air their frustrations about the energy price hikes.

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Although the big six energy companies have now started to drop prices,

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they're not putting them down by as much as they went up.

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Hello, I want to speak on behalf of all the rest of the household owners

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regarding the electric and gas bills going so high.

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Don't you find electric bills go up, up and up?!

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And then you look in the paper and find out these electric firms

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are making millions of pounds of profit - for who?!

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With all of us paying more for gas and electricity bills this winter,

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it is of course a good idea to try to save money by becoming more energy efficient.

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Having your old boiler replaced with that shiny, new condenser boiler

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is a great start, but I warn you, there's no instant return,

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because they don't come cheap. Now, imagine the frustration if,

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after you shelled out thousands of pounds to get one,

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winter strikes and your boiler packs up.

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It's bound to get you hot under the collar.

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December 2010.

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The fiercest cold snap for a century left us all sheltering in the warmth of our homes.

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But not everyone was suffering.

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The UK's biggest domestic energy supplier, British Gas,

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has reported profits of £742 million.

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And those profits were a double blow for some British Gas customers.

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Not only are they now paying higher energy bills,

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but thousands of them have also been told they'll have to shell out

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even more money to fix a problem with a particular type of boiler

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which British Gas sold them.

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Every year, a million people need to replace their boilers, and it's now

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a legal requirement that when you do, you install the condenser type.

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These new models may be efficient,

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but they're not always fans of sub-zero weather, breaking down

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and leaving people without heat at the very time they need it most.

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And that's what happened to Jean and Gordon, who, in 2005,

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paid £4,016 to have a new Glowworm condenser installed by British Gas.

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Well, five toasty years followed, until Christmas Day 2010,

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when their boiler suddenly threw in the towel.

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I got up and said, "It's a bit cold in here."

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I felt the radiators, cos they should have come on, and he said,

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"Well, I don't know."

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The problem was down to the extreme cold we all felt in December 2010.

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Temperatures of -20 caused the boiler to stop working

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because a small plastic pipe designed to vent

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condensation had gradually frozen, causing the system to shut down.

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An engineer came out and confirmed the pipe would need replacing,

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at a cost of £199.

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Well, we were not happy about that, because to us

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it's a design fault, so whether it is a fault of the manufacturers of

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the system, or British Gas doing it, it's just not fit for use, really.

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Not in those circumstances.

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And you can see why they might say that -

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because their broken boiler wasn't a one off.

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British Gas has written to 46,000 customers who suffered

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similar breakdowns in 2010, advising them that they now need to

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fit an extra part so the same thing doesn't happen this winter.

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That can cost between £149-199.

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Jean and Gordon are having theirs replaced today.

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This is the pipe, up here, that hung down the wall

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and goes into the guttering.

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That is the pipe that was freezing in the winter.

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They put the boiler in - as far as we knew, it was a workable boiler.

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OK, it's six years old, but nobody should give you something that

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you cannot use full time, whether it's hot or cold.

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Two hours later, here's the new-look winter pipe,

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fitted with a part called a trace element.

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Effectively, a hot wire, which warms the plastic pipe to prevent freezing.

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And the couple are nearly £200 lighter.

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We are not happy about it, because we're paying £199 for it,

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but we're just going to hope and pray that it will work for us.

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If every one of the 120,000 new condenser boilers which

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British Gas have installed each year

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since 2005 needed to be upgraded this way, then what they're

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charging for the new part would bring in over £107 million.

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So, is that just adding to their profits, or does

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the boiler have a fundamental flaw which they should repair for free?

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We asked them, and they said no.

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British Gas told us it's only during the prolonged freezing

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weather of the last two years that the problem came to light.

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To prevent it, they now install pipes on the inside whenever possible.

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And for outdoor pipes, they supply the part that Jean and Gordon had fitted.

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But they say they do so at cost-price, making no profit.

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The boiler's manufacturer, Glowworm, says there's no fundamental fault,

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pointing out that the external pipe worked for

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five typical winters, and that the more extreme winter of 2010 affected

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all manufacturers and installers, not just them,

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which the industry's lead trade body,

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the Heating and Ventilating Contractors Association, has confirmed.

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But Jean and Gordon, as you imagine,

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are still disappointed that they had to pay.

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It doesn't feel fair, it doesn't feel right.

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At a time when money is tighter than ever, you need to know

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your cash is working hard for you, avoiding rip-offs along the way.

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So, we've put together a booklet of tips

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and advice to help safeguard your money.

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You can find a link to the free guide on our website.

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Or, to receive a copy in the post, send an A5 self-addressed

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envelope to the address we'll be giving at the end of the programme.

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Hundreds of small businesses are being hit with crippling bills

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because it turns out that for years they've been undercharged.

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Even though they knew nothing about it, they are now suddenly being told, "Pay up!"

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Rick Waters owns a small independent shopping centre in Rye, Sussex.

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Home to around 20 small businesses,

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he's been running it for the last 20 years and it's become an established part of the local community.

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The secret to the shopping centre's success is that Rick keeps running costs low.

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But in January of 2011, he received a letter from his electricity supplier, EDF Energy,

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that threatened all of that.

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We received a huge envelope from EDF Energy

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which contained a demand for just under £60,000.

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Now, the normal monthly bill at the time was about 200, maybe 250.

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To make matters worse, the bill -

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or bills, because there were no less than 192 pages of invoices

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going back four years -

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arrived during Christmas, when the centre was shut!

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So I didn't actually pick up the envelope until 7th January

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and by that time, we'd received another letter which was a reminder

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dated 4th January, saying "You should have paid this by now."

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I mean, some of this defies belief.

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With no easy way of getting hold of £60,000,

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Rick feared that he'd have to close the shopping centre.

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That, or make himself very unpopular with the tenants.

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'You can't go round to the tenants

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and say, "Right, that's £2,500 each, please."'

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Life doesn't work like that.

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So why exactly was Rick sent such an enormous bill?

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Well, it seems that in January 2007,

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EDF made what they call an "administration error"

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and started billing the centre for ten times less electricity

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than they were actually using.

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The result - a whopping backdated bill

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and no way of paying it back.

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On 14th January they sent a threatening letter

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saying, "You haven't paid the bill. If it's not paid within five days,

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"we're going to come and cut you off, take you to court."

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Domestic customers can only be asked to pay bills dating back 12 months,

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but Rick is far from being the only person to have discovered a very different situation for businesses.

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The Crossing Church And Centre in Worksop is a charity

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that received a similarly hefty bill from their gas supplier -

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British Gas.

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Mark Pengelly is the reverend.

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Out of the blue one day, our church treasurer received

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a new set of bills from British Gas which went back

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over the complete four-year period since we'd opened.

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The additional amount being asked for, for the back payment over the four years,

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was a very alarming £38,000.

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Unable to pay the bill, the reverend began negotiations with British Gas,

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and even though it was all down to the meter underestimating the church's consumption,

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they insisted that he still had to pay for all of the backdated gas that the church had used.

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With little choice, Mark agreed to pay an initial £10,000, and then pay the balance off monthly.

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But as the church relies on volunteers and donations to keep going,

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the affects of this bill have been far-reaching.

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Paula Howard is the centre administrator.

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It's been quite a shock to the system. If that has to be passed on to our users,

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especially community users, it'll have a massive impact

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because we won't be able to subsidise their meetings as far as we do now.

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That threatens the survival of popular activities

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such as the Knit And Natter Group.

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It would be difficult to find somewhere else that would help us in this way.

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Cos the church have been very kind to us.

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No matter whose fault the error,

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energy companies can currently bill businesses for up to six years

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of back payments. Regulator Ofgem would like to see this reduced to one year,

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in line with domestic customers.

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But until that happens, there's nothing to stop businesses like the ones we've met

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from being landed with huge back bills.

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We contacted both EDF Energy and British Gas for their comments.

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Both apologised for the "inconvenience caused"

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and in each case, they've reduced the bill and agreed

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an extended repayment plan.

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EDF have also switched Rick to a better value tariff.

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British Gas point out it wasn't them that installed the church's faulty meter,

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although the company that did insists that their annual inspection

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had flagged up that there may be an issue.

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Meanwhile, Reverend Pengelly

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has had his faith in British Gas severely tested.

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In one sense,

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we don't dispute the fact that that meter may have been reading wrongly

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and technically, we have been underpaying.

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But we feel that if we've been treated very unjustly

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and to say, "Actually, you owe us three times the amount per month,

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"and you owe us £38,000 as a back payment,"

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it's really undermined all of our financial planning of the last five years.

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Undoubtedly, the largest number of complaints we get from our viewers is all to do with energy prices,

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the lack of clarity from the energy companies,

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the confusion about tariffs, how many tariffs there are

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and indeed how to read your own bill correctly.

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'So I've come to Energy UK,

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'who represent the UK's gas and electricity industry,

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'to see if they can make things just a little bit clearer.'

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Christine, most of our viewers seem to not be able to read their bills,

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and I must say, myself included. Can you read yours?

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I can read mine, but I work in the industry, so you'd expect that.

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But certainly there is a lot of information on bills.

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You have to have...your last meter reading, your latest meter reading,

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gas, electricity, which tariff you're on, your energy consumption.

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There's a lot of stuff on there and a lot of it is actually required

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to be there by the regulator, but the companies

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are working hard to make it as simple as possible.

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You say you're making moves and the big companies are working together.

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The reality is you all seem to be in cahoots with each other.

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Many think that Ofgem should just split the whole business up

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and really enforce more open competition.

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The appearance may be very different from reality.

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We know the market is competitive and we would urge people to make sure

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they're taking advantage of it by getting the best deal.

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If you've never switched, you can save hundreds of pounds.

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You make it sound simple. "You can just switch, get a better deal."

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The reality is that Ofgem, two years ago, told the big companies

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that you had 200 different tariffs on the market and to stop that.

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Now it's 400 different tariffs.

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What chance do I or a more vulnerable person,

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what chance do we have of sorting that out?

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Because I don't think you're moving fast enough towards what you're saying.

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Well, I think the companies take this extremely seriously

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and they do recognise there are areas in which consumers expect more.

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One example, one company has recently just slashed its number of tariffs

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by about a third and there will be more changes to bills, to annual statements.

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The regulator is changing the way tariffs are going to work,

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so there are lots of things happening.

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But the reality is that bills are soaring, profits are soaring.

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That is very confusing and if I may say, very annoying

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for the consumer because it's all, "We'll do this, we might do that."

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At the same time, your shareholders are pocketing.

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That's absolutely not the case and if you look at the detail

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on profits, pound-for-pound, companies are investing more every year

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than they're making in profit.

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But let's talk about help. There's a huge amount being done this winter

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-to help the most vulnerable people...

-For example?

-..which everyone is concerned about.

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For example, 200 million being spent on a wide range of initiatives

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that includes, for example, an automatic £120 off your bill

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for the 600,000 poorest pensioners.

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Several million, I think it's around 4 million letters going out,

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to try to reach the priority customers and get them insulation.

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Insulation is not a big, sexy headline story

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but it'll save these people hundreds of pounds year after year.

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-Christina, I'll come back and see you again next year. Thank you.

-I look forward to it.

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Here at Rip-Off Britain, we're always ready to investigate more of your stories.

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Confused over your bills? Trying to wade your way through

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endless small print that leaves you none the wiser?

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I might've been stupid for not reading it

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or I've read it and not taken it in.

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I could kick myself. I really could.

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Unsure what to do when you discover you've lost out

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and that so-called "great deal" has ended up costing you money?

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I thought, "This cannot be true. It's totally unacceptable." I was so angry.

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You might have a cautionary tale of your own and want to share

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the mistakes you made with us, so others don't do the same.

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No-one knows about this, so this is very strange to me.

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I really would like to get this much clearer.

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You can write to us at...

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Or send us an email to...

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The Rip-Off team is ready and waiting to investigate your stories.

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From the stories we've heard today, it's obvious our energy companies

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don't always make things easy for us,

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but when the cost of keeping warm is such a financial burden,

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we need our bills and tariffs to be as simple to understand as possible.

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We certainly do and never forget if you get bad service,

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don't put up with it.

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Switching suppliers really is not that complicated, though a lot of people still haven't done it.

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Just don't be afraid to take your business elsewhere.

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Which is exactly what I did last year due to this programme.

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That's just about it for now.

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I do hope you'll join us again when we'll be investigating even more of your stories

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and showing you how to avoid being ripped off.

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-Until next time, thank you for your company and see you soon. Bye-bye.

-Goodbye.

-Goodbye.

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